Battle Rally

[hasty marlin]

I mean one that can literally kill enemy by being afk

[plush anchor]

Flare blitz, wild charge, head smash, etc

[plush anchor]

Ah, no

[timid hound]

Day 7939 of waiting for Roark alt

[hasty marlin]

Recoil doesn’t count. Enemy has to know that

[timid hound]

[viral loom]

LodgeGio?

Can poison at contact

[plush anchor]

You want rough skin basically but on steroids

[hasty marlin]

didn’t know lodge gio had that passive

[plush anchor]

But shit buli

[timid hound]

You want Rocky Helmet as a passive and I'm all for that

[plush anchor]

So he probably dies before enemy dies

[plush anchor]

Yee that's the rough skin

[viral loom]

Still awesome for Bonanza

[hasty marlin]

It’s still goofy to think about

I could see them doing like a Metapod meme where it’s a bugsy alt with metapod that can’t hurt the enemy except by being hit

[timid hound]

They still haven't reran event Bugsy

[viral loom]

Shauntal also has burn on contact on grid iirc

[timid hound]

[viral loom]

If you're looking for even less bulk

[hasty marlin]

Embrace the harden. Become the harden.

[timid hound]

Iron Defense:

[hasty marlin]

I sleep now I have to be up for road-trip bye

[timid hound]

I hope your dreams don't get one shot by Palmer

[leaden wraith]

I think you mean *Team MPizza

[viral loom]

MPizza is so damn fun it's criminal we won't get to use it ever without feeling bad about it

MP by breathing

[urban ledge]

Look at an enemy and regain mp

[wary kayak]

...And "MPizza" is even kind of a fun name to say. Stellar work by the localization

[crisp token]

Mmm, Pizza

[crisp token]

Maybe there's hope yet

[simple frost]

its only one use no? D:

[viral loom]

Yup, as any food item

[crisp token]

I wouldn't want reused food, man

[viral loom]

Birds Pokémon could have that passive

[quaint star]

Personally I'm allergic to get any of the 25 points items

[half sonnet]

Is this a viable strategy?

[severe bronze]

i would rather get 750pts every stage though

[timid hound]

I mean, I suppose if you wanna turn your brain off and auto pilot the entire way, sure it's viable enough

But where's the fun in that?

Decide between where you want to maximize convenience or maximize points/experience

[simple frost]

it depends on your uh

track

it also depends on your buff(s) that you get

Electric, Fighting, Psychic
Kanto, Unova, Sinnoh

just any of those i guess.

Mix Red is pretty solid as well if you managed to get Grassy Terrain

[half sonnet]

I think I got a good one

[timid hound]

So many tech

[half sonnet]

Also got Opp Para Power Up

[timid hound]

Very good imo

[half sonnet]

Yeah, I might just use that strat

[gentle maple]

Probably not

[karmic briar]

Is that you, caked archer?

[gentle maple]

There could be a chance it gimps u out of all cake vouchers

[ebon valve]

that only increases damage dealt when that status is active, I'd go with the stat increasing one

[true field]

Isn't there a link to the battle rally pattern predictor tool somehwere? - nvm found it!

[half sonnet]

I don't quite understand

[hasty marlin]

I forget the exact numbers but the required score average is pretty high unless you missed the January shop

For emptying cake coins and powerups

[gentle maple]

There's probably a set out there if u use that combination u won't be able to get 6k points that week

[wary kayak]

I feel like the implication was that they'd just glue TBolt Red into a team slot due to the 8 Tech (and 1 Field) stages, and thereby always have access to group paralyze

[gentle maple]

Or I could be wrong but why go for that combination when u can get more points for bonus PU

[wary kayak]

Rei is Sprint/Striker
Rosa is Support/Sprint
Red is Tech/Field

All five roles are represented, and every stage has two different roles. You are guaranteed to match roles at least twice on any stage as a result, for +100% (300+300=600)

[gentle maple]

So like at worse u get 6k points

That sounds like a bare minimum I guess

[wary kayak]

Like, yes I'd prefer shooting for 750+ as much as possible but their math does add up correctly

[gentle maple]

I think the strategy works now but as time goes on with more cakes available u will realised that this strategy is so eh

[wary kayak]

A little better, honestly. The team has two Sprints so it triple-dips on stages with Sprint. And there will be at least three per Rally.

[gentle maple]

People would be getting 10k in a far future average and u 6k

[wary kayak]

So it's.. 6450 I think

If it's an 8-Sprint rally, it gets... 7200 instead, I think

[half sonnet]

I wasn't thinking much about the long term, but I'll agree with you

[gentle maple]

Short term strategy I guess

I've seen people without lucky area getting 9.6k alr

[wary kayak]

Or if you're doing it super last-minute and physically do not have time for proper strategizing

[gentle maple]

Yeah I guess that works too

[half sonnet]

And yeah I did miss some of Jan, I have 3 Rally Passes. I don't know the max as of now

[wary kayak]

I still wouldn't do it but I can kind of respect the existence of this plan

[gentle maple]

It's the casual way out imo

I say casual but u have to cake those 3 first

[wary kayak]

If it gets a casual to stop fearing Rally, maybe it's worth it fwiw

[glass patrol]

Frfrfrfr

People who say this mode is hard genuinely just like

Don’t engage with the mechanics

[gentle maple]

Nah some do but just keep overspending

[glass patrol]

That’s the far end and they probably don’t say the mode is hard

[gentle maple]

Might even become a pinned strat

[glass patrol]

They say rewards are hard to get

[mild notch]

i'm in a rally with 2 field+sprint areas

[true field]

lol I had the same one Andy

spent coins on a sprint candy

[tame forge]

I feel like most of my rallies had that

I wanna cake Steven so bad can it just drop already

[mild notch]

i think gym leader boost is the best one u can get

[karmic briar]

Main character is the best imo

[mild notch]

o right

[karmic briar]

Along with rivals
Gym leaders straight after but they have very few unlocked roles so far

Also, water/fire/grass/psychic

And then there’s me getting ground twice in a row

[tame forge]

Champion is good

Since you can use any neo champion

Electric and psychic too

[daring tide]

i have an hp restore but its not letting me use it???

[ebon valve]

It can be accessed in the team edit menu near the bottom.

[hollow isle]

[quaint star]

MC upgrade is best since you have all the eggmons to make use of

Not to mention some of the better pairs are MCs

[wary kayak]

8 Tech rally
Electric stat boost and Atk Buff damage multi in the shop

Looks like TBolt Red is going to be eating really well tonight

Stage 10 is Tech+Field. Hm... Could use a Tech (or Field) Rolex tank, but I only know of Neo Calem being able to do that. Was there anyone else?

[plush magnet]

Elaine w EX Role if committed

[wary kayak]

Hm, don't have her

Looks like my only other tank with Tech or Field Rolex is... uh, Lenora

Which I'm guessing isn't a great idea

[ionic sigil]

Have you checked Techs like Brock, Flannery and Erika that can function as Supports?

[wary kayak]

Thing is, if it actually is a Support, they can go for four consecutive rounds at the end here

(Also Arceusdammit of course it would happen here)

[tame forge]

Have you got nc leaf or nc serena caked?

Cause you'd be able to use either of them for those 4 stages

[wary kayak]

I can do that, though I still need a tank

[tame forge]

How many boosts you got

[wary kayak]

I have both and I have a support cake to spend (plus could afford a second via vouchers), and both of those are excellent pairs, so I'm not averse

[wary kayak]

300% in stat multi, 300% in dmg multi, both focused on TBolt Red being on the team

[tame forge]

If you still got that sst red you mentioned available to you, both him and leaf can tank pretty well. Red gets good self recovery and leaf has potion, and if you've bought 1-2 store boosts that should help out a lot too

Leaf gets really good stats from her cake

Defensively speaking

[wary kayak]

It's what Support cake does, yeah

[tame forge]

And she's debuffing atk and sp atk

[wary kayak]

Stage 10 turned out to be Anabel.
Would not have wanted Neo Leaf here giving Sun. Yike. Glad I waited before committing.

[wary kayak]

Pretty pleased with this. Thanks for the ideas, I might be able to apply them in another week

[normal python]

Don't tell me you used hax

[wary kayak]

I mean I used Sleep shenanigans for a stage or two but TBolt Red soon blocks it with Paralyze

Wait, is Anabel flinchable or something?

I got kinda close to winning with Neo Serena and May (and TBolt Red of course). But May goes down before Anabel's sync and thus can't overwrite the second Sun.
Got annoyed, threw a Tech cake at Calem, and won much more handily

Had to savescum the start of the fight so that Calem's Water Shuriken lands 4 or 5 hits, so he can overwrite the first Sun on turn 2 (Serena's guaranteed 5-hit shuriken, plus Red's Thunder Shock, plus 4 hits on Calem's Water Shuriken is 10 hits for him to use the B move)

[normal python]

She has Team Solar Immunity

[gentle maple]

I wonder which UB is the 2nd hardest with low stats boost

[wary kayak]

Rain and flinch together...

So the secret MVP is Winona!

[hasty marlin]

For future reference if no one else mentioned

Proton crobat is tech exr too

That’s the main other tech exrd support I’m aware of since I have proton

[kindred seal]

Ughhhhh it's Lucy for Battle 10 again. If I have to buy an upgrade, I might as well go down a difficulty, right?

[nimble tide]

Depends?

[kindred seal]

Can I win this? Damage output is pitiful and the battle is basically over after the post-sync AOE poison

[leaden wraith]

Can you send your available roster? We will see if we can help you making a working team or not

For Lucy ^

[kindred seal]

Man this is a lot. Should be almost all of it though. I thought I had a good team comp but it's still too weak and the poison thing

[quaint star]

I was sure someone has good results with Clay versus Lucy

Maybe you need to lower the difficulty, but just going to ask - Why do you bother to buy the other two boosts?

[kindred seal]

Grass was carrying me the entire Rally. I started with Steel type. And Super Effective boost was cheap

[fiery stirrup]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[karmic briar]

Id just slap antitoxin everywhere and swap Marley for a grass support

[quaint star]

Would grass tech be better for dps since he has 2 stacks of the boost?

[karmic briar]

He has a lot of 2/5 techs

So lack of nuke

I was thinking about lodge blue / Lyra actually

[rapid notch]

E4 starting biost

Not worth it right

[leaden wraith]

Not a good boost, yeah

You should look out for other theme upgrades in the shop

[eternal nebula]

If a good theme shows up at area 4, and having a bad starting boost, will that new good theme upgrading 6 times be able to help me clear area 10?

[karmic briar]

6 time is way more than enough

[wary kayak]

I last cleared Area 10 with 4 stat upgrades and 3 damage multipliers, I believe

I had three Master Pairs in the team though, two of which the fight was designed to be weak against

[eternal nebula]

What damage multipliers did you end up using?

[wary kayak]

Me? Well, the role pattern and multipliers were really kind to TBolt Red.
My freebie was Ground, which I disregarded as soon as I saw the first shop loadout: Electric stat multi (Red was going to be glued to a team slot for the whole rally anyway-- it was an 8 Tech pattern) and a Has Atk Buff damage multi (I just gridded him for TM MPR and reset until it procced at the start of each round).

The second shop had Main Character stat multi so I just stacked that on too. Got me to 4 stat upgrades sooner.

[normal python]

I've been kinda slacking here

[kindred seal]

Oh, so this is her battle? I wish I knew what the last battle was to spec into it better

[proven matrix]

Normally I don't ask for help here but I'm in quite the pickle

It's strike sprint and all my good damage dealers have been used, and I'm kinda lost on what to do since blue hits extremely hard. If you turn me to the pins that's fine. I already used rei for the 2.0x boost , and if you want my roster I can show it

I don't feel like doing normal or hard btw

[ebon valve]

What's your stat boost at?

[proven matrix]

Uh lemme see

[ebon valve]

seems that stage has Wise Entry x2, but N's there.

[proven matrix]

i think it was WE 3

i got no boosts at all

[ebon valve]

Well he has both. Wise Entry 3 and Wise Entry x2, they really don't want you to use special moves.

[proven matrix]

yea the tips showed me and i found out the hard way when using ash

i have guard chocolat in the shop but idk if they'll survive past 2nd sync

[ebon valve]

You probably need 1x stat boost. What's the theme, and what's in the shop?

[proven matrix]

so far its just steel upgrade

gimme a minute discord mobile likes to be bad

[ebon valve]

Does that give guard every move?

what about the sandwich?

[proven matrix]

Yes

Sandwich does -3 sync on entry

[ebon valve]

Did you try just chucking in a steel unit to see how N fared?

[proven matrix]

he dies to anything

i chucked in sc shauna and didnt go well

but maybe with guard chocolat it can work?

not sure, lemme try it

[timid hound]

What's Kantrio gimmick?

[proven matrix]

they like to kill you

uh

[timid hound]

[proven matrix]

wise entry and mega evo on blue

[timid hound]

Oh gross Wise Entry

[ebon valve]

They don't have multipliers, but they raise their stats a bunch, and use strong moves.

area 8 is x8 stats. so they quite beefy.

Is N dieing to pre-sync heat wave?

[proven matrix]

guard chocolat my beloved

yes

[ebon valve]

that chocolat sounds so OP

[proven matrix]

it is

[timid hound]

But it's one-time use isn't it?

Feelsbad

[proven matrix]

i clearly forgot to mix both shauna and the chocolat

[timid hound]

Maybe if it had multiple uses it'd be nice

[proven matrix]

its like ratatouille

https://tenor.com/view/tasty-ratatoille-fruit-yum-gif-5645584

[timid hound]

what

[proven matrix]

you have two awesome ingredients that are good on their own, but when you mix them together its delectable and full of flavor

[timid hound]

Chef's Kiss

[proven matrix]

in this case, you mix sc shauna for my steel boost + the chocolat for infinite gaurd = unkillable stages

thanks gamers

[ebon valve]

GL on 9 & 10

[timid hound]

Ganba

[proven matrix]

done, thanks fo rthe help

[elfin tendon]

8x kanto boost and luckily got 2 crit hit boosts as well. Pretty safe strat it seems

[timid hound]

EIGHT?

[ebon valve]

8100 seems pretty high with 10 shop purchases.

guessing, a lot of ex roles?

[timid hound]

Isn't 8100 the gross points?

The next results screen is the one that nets the purchases if memory serves

Still quite a high figure regardless

Must be rolex trigger happy

[west abyss]

Yeah 8100 isn't counting the -800

[karmic briar]

Guys the starting boost is hard but fine if it’s a good boost, getting 1-2 more in the shop is more than enough to safely clear all the 10 areas, with more than 3 totally I feel it’s lost points

[ebon valve]

The first run I spent like 1k points. This week, spent 150. :>

[timid hound]

I cap at 300 purchases

[karmic briar]

The first run I did not even notice the initial boost

[timid hound]

This week I spent 100

Bertha beat Anahell

A testament to Ground Boost

[karmic briar]

This week I spent 150, an additional ground boost and a 100% boost if sp atk was up that costed only 50 points

Literally broken lmao

[timid hound]

I like those ones

My favorite one is crit

If it crits, +100% power =

[karmic briar]

Never looked at the shop and got it actually

But I’m out of statistics, got my first lucky area this week

[vernal vapor]

Mfw ground bonus + 7 rounds of field/sprint 💀

I had to buy a sirup to beat Thorton but this rally version is a crime

[karmic briar]

But you got a great score for no lucky area, congrats!

[vernal vapor]

thanks, yeah this is my best score so far

[fathom yacht]

Or you can do what i do and not buy items ever and resort to status chains for later stages

I am literally practicing Quad queue sleep so that NCRosa and SSLyra can cover 3 types

Yes im an idiot

[ebon valve]

I still can't quad with ncRosa, so don't feel bad

[gentle maple]

Isn't her quad queue frame really tight

[wary kayak]

I think I've managed quadqueue flinch/sleep, like, twice outside of SSLyra

[rapid notch]

How should I utilise my field and sprint for this run

[outer jasper]

Area 1 u can probably use 3 supports

[rapid notch]

done

in area 2 rn

praaying to get a boost

[outer jasper]

I’d def use Cynthia for 3 for 2.0x

Save red for area 7 & 8

[rapid notch]

and nate?

[glass patrol]

Lucy is a pain

[outer jasper]

Area 4 for the 2.0x or Area 7 and 8

[rapid notch]

Area 5 with no good boosts so far💀

Anything worth it here?

[ebon valve]

Well the team is really underwhelming. Gonna need to throw some good pairs at the stages

[rapid notch]

i am

talking bout boosts

i am getting literally no good boosts

[ebon valve]

What’s Orange trainer?

The gelato there will make any stage easy, but if your using whatever the current boost is you could just double it

[rapid notch]

orange is e4

thus why i have bought no boosts

at this rate i wont have shit for round 10

[rapid notch]

Thorton r10

I got 3 E4 boost

Can anni n or sst red ignore thorton's passive?

[fathom yacht]

Oh no, i don’t mean quad queue post sync. I mean Quad Queue sleep chains. As in I sleep an enemy and then quad sleep on the next enemy that makes a move before they make it

When I said i was an idiot i REALLY meant it

[ebon valve]

Sleep quad is nearly impossible

[fathom yacht]

Yeah i know but i’m starting to get the timing down

I used it on a stage on the week before this one, and i got 3 in a row a few times

But it was actual pain

If my math is correct you can squeeze an extra sync out of a HS stage if you get that too, although adding that to a high strength run is awful

[ebon valve]

Do you have clip of sleep quad? I did witness flinch quad from one user, but the timing seemed insane

[fathom yacht]

It’s horrible

I can try it again on a stage, but i’d probably have to warm up quite a bit

[plush anchor]

It is possible
But god bless your patience for you will lose your will to live.

[fathom yacht]

Yeah doing that 3x in a row post AI sync is torture

[reef magnet]

getting walled by a fucking Rocket Grunt of all things on R7

[fathom yacht]

BUT the strength boost in HS is ENORMOUS

[plush anchor]

Try to take advantage of your theme boost you take in the start

[reef magnet]

Field/Sprint, needs weather change, Fire weakness, no NYWallace

[ebon valve]

This was a flinch queue that was recorded: #916852044692856834 message

[reef magnet]

the only Unova Sprint/Field pairs are the two MF I skipped, and neither set a non-sand weather

I also took Hoenn but, uh, again no NYWallace

even took a Galar one and tried PalBea + Leon but Leon does no damage even when he has SEU up

and I can't use SSMorty or NCLeaf because I might need them for Thorton later on

[rapid notch]

Can sstred/anni n do thorton?(i remember his bmove ignoring passive I think)(anni n has piercing blows)

[karmic briar]

Sstred has defense debuffs too to prevent thorton multipliers

What support options do you have?

[rapid notch]

Uhhh

Stuff like nccalem and ncblue

One pair has to be e4

So prob aaron or Lucian

[ebon valve]

Apparently the sleep quad window is a lot more lenient than flinch quad.

Best way to practice is with Burghpei set as the attack target.

[reef magnet]

Had to do R10 on Hard because I had VH Argenta with 0 usable buffs

[ebon valve]

No pizza, chocolate or gelato?

[reef magnet]

no, just the apple cup available

my theme skills were hoenn unova and galar

did get a Rebuff damage boost but it didn't help at all, 1 Psychic from either sides one-shots my team

[static arch]

Does new viola seasonal do like -1 all stats

[wary kayak]

Electrowe--
Elesa's Joltik doesn't count as Bug

Venom Dr--
Janine's Ariados doesn't count as Bug either

It's a little weird that bug Speed Downs are so scarce when String Shot is often the first Speed Down we encounter in the main series

[static arch]

MF weedle -6 speed

Caterpie probably more iconic actually

[naive tendon]

anyone have tips

i'm tempted to just suck it up and swap someone out to make the stage easier

[wary kayak]

Now that you mention it, Ash is on Pasio

[wary kayak]

Looking uncomfortable af with half your stats being locked behind a type you can't fit on the team

[naive tendon]

frick

yeah the team dies on sync

and tanking a wood hammer is

not an option i think

without nemona tm

also no one deals enough damage

yeah y'know what i give

uhhhhhhh

bp barry did not survive a wood hammer

[ebon valve]

Did you wind up buying an item?

[naive tendon]

other than champ/grass boost? no

i have other grass supports too tho

just i used him last round and he has all his mp

and full health

[naive tendon]

*missing one synthesis

he also works to finish victor's buffs without an mpr

[ebon valve]

Is it still that Dawn stage?

[naive tendon]

yeah

i'm sure there's a way to do it with this team

i only did a few attempts so far

like

[ebon valve]

Sprint Field, Sentry Entry x2, and Grassy Terrain bs.
Okay. And what's your boost at?

[naive tendon]

i managed to take out dawn before her second sync but sides were a problem

[naive tendon]

maybe i should use b double shock on sides?

i used max guard to make sure nemona didn't go out i thinkkkk

[naive tendon]

i lied

[ebon valve]

the only grass Champion is Exeggcutor Blue.

[naive tendon]

second sync happened

[naive tendon]

oh, nemona has champ theme skill

unless

i just gaslit myself?

she does

[ebon valve]

Yes Nemona is a champon, but your only get x1 boost.

Unless there's a grass on the team.

[naive tendon]

i have a bunch of ncs so

i figured i could build a team with a grass pair and an nc later on

for something

[ebon valve]

You don't even necessarily need the boost at Area 4. But you do need to try and beat the stage, possibly exhausting your TMs.

[naive tendon]

oh

damn

[ebon valve]

is Area 5 gonna carry any of these units over?

If not; then just use their trainer moves.

[wary kayak]

This option is a last resort, but:

Don't forget you can just eat the score loss and downgrade to a lower difficulty for this stage

[naive tendon]

nope

i usually burn through tms on weaker non-boost unite for 1-5

[naive tendon]

gotcha

[ebon valve]

You can either buy an upgrade like the one-use ones, another continous boost, remove a bonus pair and counter the gimmick, or play the hard stage.

[naive tendon]

imma keep trying with this team for nowwwww

if i take out dawn before her second sync it should be possible

[naive tendon]

i'll try one of these tho if all else fails

thanks for the help all!

[ionic sigil]

Is the Guard Chocolat item’s effect after every move that it applies the Damage Guard or first time only? The description can be taken either way

[charred moth]

I’m struggling on this level and I can’t tell what I’m intended to do to beat it. Can you guys help?

[quaint star]

Show me the main screen of your Rally

[severe bronze]

check area details

any sentry or wise entry?

[charred moth]

I think it has sentry, but it’s oneshotting my whole team in the first move

which is why I think I’m doing it wrong somehow

[severe bronze]

whats your initial boost

[charred moth]

Gym leader

Do I need that for this area?

[severe bronze]

sentry is defense right you might need special move for this stage

[charred moth]

ah alright

[severe bronze]

did you check pomatools for area 9 and 10

like what role combo are you getting next

[charred moth]

I don’t want to look ahead

I just want help on this level

[severe bronze]

well i would bring a gym leader here

and a special attacker

if you have nc red rolex its the best time to drop him

bp candice and nc red should do it

[charred moth]

nah I don’t have him

I’ll figure something out

[ionic sigil]

That stage was originally for SC Rosa I think

[charred moth]

Okay thank you

[severe bronze]

well mix red seems like an easy clear if you have him

if its intended for sc rosa

need rolex to get the bonus though

[charred moth]

I don’t have him EXd so I can’t use him very well

does this guy get boosted in the sun?

[severe bronze]

no but he doesnt need to

[quaint star]

If you use a gym leader here, all your teams get another stack of 100% stats

200% is definitely better than 100%

[charred moth]

yes I’m aware

[severe bronze]

you could get away with brendan in this stage i think

[charred moth]

I’m trying to use adaman SS leaf and ss morty

and it’s getting me very close to winning

[quaint star]

That's the point in doing rally - You stack on an upgrade and have a pair that shares this theme to prevent your team from being routed just like in EB

[severe bronze]

ss morty?

[quaint star]

Since each area increases 100% of stats for the opponent

[severe bronze]

you dont get the bonus point though

[charred moth]

he’s a gym leader

I care more about getting past this area than I do about the points rn

[ionic sigil]

I don’t know if any of the Tech tanks could last in this stage too

[quaint star]

Have OG Erika be the tank instead of SS Acerola

[severe bronze]

he has calem

rolex

[quaint star]

You get the Tech + Gym Leader part solved

[ionic sigil]

He’s not good at tanking

Nor a Gym Leader

[quaint star]

The thing is he's lacking on a Gym Leader to give stats to his team

[severe bronze]

calem can def survive with first aid 4 and endurance

well i would use erika here for gl

[quaint star]

He's fighting a stage with 800% stats, with a 100% stats team.

Of course he's gonna struggle

[ionic sigil]

I’ve done runs without buying a boost so it is possible assuming RNG doesn’t misbehave

[quaint star]

Yes, but have you done run without using the initial upgrade?

[proper schooner]

What would be a good team to take on round 10 very hard anabel boost support and sprint

[quaint star]

It's definitely doable with just the initial upgrade.

[quaint star]

What is your upgrade?

[ionic sigil]

I’ve used the initial yeah

[proper schooner]

Galar

[severe bronze]

support sprint on anabel is really tough

might consider doing hard imho

[quaint star]

Unless you stack up to 6-7 upgrades, Anabel is gonna be tough especially without Tech

[severe bronze]

considering your roster as well

[ionic sigil]

Might be more worth it to consider the Hard stage too

[quaint star]

You need to have both debuff and weather support to deal with Anabel

[severe bronze]

i think the bigger problem is he has no sprint that could take down anabel on vh

in fact no sprint unit at all

[quaint star]

What sprint unit can even help against Anabel anyway?

[severe bronze]

ss gladion

rei probably can do it with enough boost

[quaint star]

Right, we don't even know how many stack he has

[severe bronze]

well theres two support rolex unit that can take down anabel

leaf and cerena

but thats it probably

[proper schooner]

Well decent score ig

[severe bronze]

might want to rolex more units for bonus point in the future

[kindred seal]

Can I get another look at this? I may just go down a difficulty since it seems unwinnable and I don't want to spend more than 500 points on this run

[severe bronze]

try adaman courtney and ball guy

ball guy can clear all status with tm

nc blue with antitoxin can work too

[kindred seal]

Hmm, Ball Guy can cure consistently?

Oh wait I need Steel in the team

[ebon valve]

yeah via tm

area 10 vh is pretty difficult. your expected to buy a boost

what's in the shop for one use

[kindred seal]

It's insane. I'm doing 6-digit damage which is more than I've ever done in any other mode and that's still an insignificant amount of the total HP

I didn't get any good sales this run

[ebon valve]

well it's double the usual Ultimate battle stats

I'd imagine the gelato or half cake would be really helpful if you can almost beat the stage.

ball guy can also deal with the speed stat, solo courtney looks like very little damage

[kindred seal]

The battle is basically lost at the opponent's second sync, so I have to win before that. I don't think I need more defense. I'm just not doing enough damage which prolongs the battle

[severe bronze]

oh i thought the grass boost you had is theme boost

my bad

its just multiplier right

[ebon valve]

triangle shaped ones are boosts to those type of moves

I'd splurge on the gelato honestly

that will give you 2 more syncs I think

how was that team even dealing with poison?

[kindred seal]

How does it work? I haven't read it's description yet

On the team in the shop screenshot, Xerneas heals. I've gotten lucky procs but alas, battle ends at sync 2

[ebon valve]

Double Countdown Gelato
When an allied sync pair uses a move successfully, reduces the sync move countdown by one.

every single move, does -1 sync

buffing, attacking, potion, tm, etc

[kindred seal]

Oh, interesting

[ebon valve]

So you're relying on his Trainer Move and Healing Hand?

that's a lot of rng

[kindred seal]

The TM proccing

I've gotten 3 in a row

But hmm, is that the best way to spend 100 points? Sounds pretty good

[ebon valve]

well i guess you can reset for that, combined with the gelato

it'd be 650 for beating VH with the gelato.
vs 500 for doing hard without buying gelato

[kindred seal]

I see...

So far this Ball Guy run has been okay. Still nearly no damage, but surviving

[ebon valve]

At least your willing to experiment.

beating without gelato might just take some runs, or maybe the antitoxin lucky skill

[severe bronze]

yeah lucy actually appreciates striker sync over tech because two endurance is kinda annoying

side npc have the highest hp among other ultimate battles

[kindred seal]

Nope, still can't do it. Will more sync level even help? 7 sync? 9 sync? There's not enough damage before time runs out.

Or.... Maybe save the crit shield for this late in the battle...

[ebon valve]

Are the sides physical?

Like using physical moves

[severe bronze]

its both i think

just from memory i remember them having sludge wave poison jab

iron tail

[ebon valve]

Well Jasmine helps with towering force at least. Too bad this team has little sp def

[severe bronze]

when mid die sides will spam sludge wave iirc

[ebon valve]

You got to 5 syncs without gelato?

You get to sync every 2 cycles instead of 3.

So gelato would’ve gotten you to 7 syncs. I’m surprised Lucy isn’t damaged more than the sides.

Who are you syncing with 1st?

Please don’t tell me Courtney was last.

[kindred seal]

Yes, first sync was Steelix for recuperate

[severe bronze]

you should be syncing with courtney after the first support sync

[kindred seal]

Then ball guy then Courtney

What are the resist checkpoint gimmicks? Not sure I understood those but the idea would be the sync would hit harder that way if it was more built up

[ebon valve]

Try with Courtney 2nd. The post sync damage should be higher. 3rd sync should still be Courtney and not ball guy.

[severe bronze]

since you need to kill mid asap its better to sync with courtney

[ebon valve]

Once ground zone is gone you can sync with ball guy

[kindred seal]

Hmm okay

[ebon valve]

80 and 40%

In your screenshot it doesn’t even look like you got to 60%

[kindred seal]

This was much closer! Somehow took more damage which negated the crit shield's point

[ebon valve]

She’s gonna have a hard time ko the sides

[kindred seal]

It was chipping away slowly even with that many sync

[severe bronze]

yeah bulldoze damage is bad especially if you ran out of ground zone

[ebon valve]

I’m guessing because of the 2x endure it’s not possible to sync one of the sides?

Idt the sides have endure

[severe bronze]

they dont

[ebon valve]

Id try syncing the right side first, and seeing if bulldoze kills it in the process of getting to 3rd sync

Really wish I could just test this stage myself

[severe bronze]

i havent seen lucy or argenta in rally

well argenta soon

[kindred seal]

I'll try that

[ebon valve]

I sleep GL

[kindred seal]

Tried sync moves on the sides. Still can't KO them lol

[kindred seal]

There. It is done. I folded and got another super effective boost. Even then it was still really, really close

[half bone]

Hey, need to actually finish this run, anyone able to give advice?

I can show where I am and what I'm having trouble with.

[leaden wraith]

go ahead, please provide us what upgrades you have and which items are in the shop too

[half bone]

This is the opponent I have, with two of the pairs I was suggestd previously. Sinnoh bonus.

Current shop lineup.

[leaden wraith]

iirc that stage demands WTZ change

what is the other role bonus?

[half bone]

It's strike/sprint.

You can guess why I'm not exactly eager to give up a sprint pair.

This is what the rally calc shows as my lineup.

[leaden wraith]

you have 3 Sprint stage total

where are you at?

[leaden wraith]

i assume both NC Rosa and SSA Cynthia are caked

[half bone]

You can see it in the first screenshot but it's faded out and harder to read so I can understand missing it.

[leaden wraith]

if yes, you can save one Sprint for each stage

if Rei is caked as well, use him now or save him for Stage 9

[half bone]

planning on saving him.

Hisui pairs are counted for Sinnoh so I have extra reason to be conservative.

enemy team has Clear ADvantage.

[burnt fox]

Wait does EX role count for the role bonuses in rally?

[west abyss]

Yeah, that's kinda the whole gimmick

The more EX roles you match, the more points you can accrue

[burnt fox]

Oh wow

[west abyss]

The game-mode is heavily geared towards EX roles, it's the key reward from it as well

[burnt fox]

In that case I’ll wait for SS Gladion and then cake him to get his sprint

[west abyss]

You'll want to get one BR done before Gladion, so you can get the 300 gems from the mission

[leaden wraith]

you can use SSA Cynthia or Rei right now to solve the issue

[west abyss]

Are you on Area 3? Since it's Strike & Sprint, I'd just go with 3 strikes - Area 3 should be quite easy

That way you can save SSA Cynthia & Rei for Areas 7 & 9

[half bone]

That's why I'm not exactly fond of hte idea of using Rei or Aura Cynth for this. XD

I just need a chunky body to take Mega Kicks and Surfs.

[west abyss]

Yeah just throw in a random strike there, shouldn't be too much of a hassle

If it can flinch (or otherwise deny) some moves that'll do you a favour in surviving

[leaden wraith]

Plumeria has Staggering 4 on Smog, in case you dont know

[half bone]

Ah, haven't messed with her grid much so didn't know.

Needing to go off-type for having Clear Advantage shut down.

[leaden wraith]

you already have BP Candice tho, so you can go for strong ontype strike like Bea instead of Hilda

[half bone]

Um... Electric type is on type damage...?

at least for center.

I'll double check after handling a few things in another game.

[leaden wraith]

i thought the mid was weak to Fighting for some reason

so strikes like Elesa, then

[half bone]

wait, derp, it's in the screenshot

[leaden wraith]

she also tanks decently well

[half bone]

Maybe Bea works for tank.

Is there a tank version of Bea's grid? Since I think her trainer moves can give buffs?

[leaden wraith]

her grid doesnt help with defensive, aside from Agile Entry 1

just pick that tile and go for full offensive

[half bone]

Alright.

So, Plumeria, Candice, and either Bea or Hilda?

[leaden wraith]

Bea or Elesa, since they are ontype

[silent swift]

What

[simple frost]

wat

[half bone]

Oh for god's sake, I don't think the update for Plumeria's grid is out yet.

[leaden wraith]

Staggering 4 is on her base grid

and she absolutely doesnt need any other tiles

[half bone]

Oh. Well, the suggested grids aren't helping much at all, they seem to use the new one.

[leaden wraith]

you can just grid for that tile and Smog accuracy tiles

thats all

sometimes the solution is pretty simple

[half bone]

Jesus christ, Draco Meteor?

Why is a stage three boss throwing out such powerful attacks?

Okay, seriously, the only thing that has't oneshot or done severe damage has been waterfall.

[leaden wraith]

are you using Smog on enemies to deny their attacks?

[half bone]

It's completely inconsistent on flinching.

Itj ust missed my last usage.

...oh my god, even with hail up, I do no damage with Cadance.

[finite tundra]

is clear advantage for wtz? or is it status condition

[half bone]

Weather/Terrain/Zone.

[leaden wraith]

it has Clear Advantage yes

[leaden wraith]

she is not supposed to deal big damage. Bea/Elesa is

[finite tundra]

huh weird that it doesn't ask for that in the area details then

[leaden wraith]

that BC was designed for SST Red / SSA Cynthia, so they pulled some annoying gimmicks

[half bone]

Bea also does no damage.

[finite tundra]

ohhh it's their battle challenge

[half bone]

Clear Advantage taken away, Meteor Strike right in her face. Damage meter barely goes down.

[leaden wraith]

does she have max offensive stats and speed?

how about switching to Elesa to take down mid quicker?

[half bone]

I need a tank too.

[leaden wraith]

she has better survivability than Bea too

[half bone]

She takes recoil damage.

I'll try her but I expect this to go horribly.

[leaden wraith]

either Bea or Elesa works, as long as you have good staggering luck

along with move order understanding

[half bone]

Until Sync.

The one thing Flinch can't interrupt.

[leaden wraith]

the goal is denying their sync as late as possible, or dont let them sync at all

[half bone]

Best attempt, still died to sync.

Nor helped by them constantly switching who would attack.

[leaden wraith]

that requires move order understanding, like i told you above

usually its mid -> left side -> mid -> right -> mid -> sync -> mid until its down

[half bone]

Yes, they switch that order.

Sometimes, Right gets two consecutive attacks after left.

THat is what I'm saying, they're brekaing that standard order at seeming random.

How is this 'better at tanking'? She nearly dies to Mega Kick.

SHe's a recoil attacker too, that means she eats into her HP to use her best moves.

...Oh for god's sake, her sync grids are useless since she can't gain speed.

Inertia and Ramming Speed need speed boosted and sh can't do that in her kit.

Okay, she has Fleet Foot, that's juts about it. THat's really nto that much though.

...Oh for god's sake, now the grid is broken.

Come on, I don't need this too.

I'm two off of thr energy needed but it says I should finish at 0.

Ah, there it is, apparently another icon got sleected for stats on acciddent, at least that's a false alarm.

Jesus christ, the ultimate battle stage was easier to deal with than this.

[leaden wraith]

well you chose the hard way here is my grid for Elesa: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10600/52300?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=21010101&g=AAECAwQFBgkMJyksLTAxMjM0 you dont have to click Wild Charge

[half bone]

Okay, how often is Flinch supposed to work for smog?

becuase it seems to rarely happen.

Oh thank god, this run worked, finally.

barely in time.

This one's just an Elite Four battle against Grimsley.

steel weakness.

There's a Speed ^4 power up available, how worth it is that?

[leaden wraith]

aside from crit power up, other stat powerups are not worth buying

[half bone]

Speaking of...

This what you meant?

[karmic briar]

Nope that’s the +3 crit on entry

[half bone]

ah. What is that skill then?

[karmic briar]

There’s another type that lays where you have the ground/spatk drop boost

That you may find in the shop

Which says crit 100% up that means when you land a crit the damage is double

And costs 50 or 100

[leaden wraith]

I believe it costs 100 normally

[half bone]

k.

[tame forge]

Crit power up costs 50, I was able to buy it two times this week

[summer ingot]

Only when it's on sale

[tame forge]

pretty sure it's still 50 but I'll wait till I see it again to confirm

[leaden wraith]

I have never seen it in the shop

[elfin tendon]

it counts with the 800

[west abyss]

I stand corrected! Well done

[crisp knoll]

-800?

[leaden wraith]

Unrelated to the topic but that Vivi emote is cute

[tame forge]

I forgot where it's from lemme check oh it's an emote server

[crisp knoll]

Sages

[ebon valve]

Crit: Power ↑ is always 50 points for regular price.

[ebon valve]

[tame forge]

Thank you I couldn't check shop rn, out of passes

[crisp knoll]

I'm too cautious and usually just skip everything from the shop except for the if I need it. How good are the Crit ups?

[tame forge]

They're about half as good as the type/theme boost, as they only buff your atk by 100% and not your defenses

[elfin tendon]

Was gonna be 700 but couldn't pass on the crit hit power up twice

[tame forge]

But it's also half the price so

Really good

[ebon valve]

You usually don't need the apple cup. If you're doing VH Area 10, there's usually a 100pt item that can help you clear for less. Like the Gelato, Dango, or Chocolate.

The Crit ↑ power up is nice, because it's relatively cheap.

[tame forge]

Easiest requirement to meet too

[ebon valve]

Crit is universal across teams, and it's an easy condition to achieve.

[crisp knoll]

Help me clear provided I bought other stuff?

I never really looked at the shop items much

[ebon valve]

The Apple Cup while fun, is a big point deficit.
VH 10 clear with 3 roles is normally 750 points. But apple cup is -500. So net is 250.
When you could've cleared by just buying one of the other items I mentioned for 100. So 650 net score.

100 point items that are pretty helpful on area 10 (instead of getting apple cup):

• Double Countdown Gelato: Every single move gives -1 sync countdown.
• Severe Sundae: Lowers all enemy stats to -6 at the start.
• Guard Chocolat: Every single move gives damage guard next.
• Half Cake: All damage is reduced by 50% incl. sync and max moves.
• Four-Hit Combo Dango: The first sync from each sync pair reduces the Sync CD by 9.
• Ultra Jelly: Increases all stats (except HP) by 300%.
• MPizza: Restores 1 MP each time a move is used for all moves. (use with a sync accel pair or limited B move)

[leaden wraith]

The half cake is interesting. I should have bought it earlier to counter Palmer

[ebon valve]

Palmer is worrysome with that particular item, since these items show up as passive skills, I'm wondering if Palmer would ignore that item.

since his team has Piercing Blows

[karmic briar]

If you have good pairs also the severe sundae is right for area 10, since lots of UB are built around buffs and debuffs

[static arch]

Restrain type stuff works instead though right? Trying to think of a unit with negative status effect and weather

[leaden wraith]

Palmer has sure crit so unless you have Anabel it doesnt fix the issue

[karmic briar]

Thorton has multipliers on defense buffs

[leaden wraith]

It is surely an useful item for other fights (Anabel sweating)

[static arch]

I still don't understand how Vigilance doesn't protect against sure crit

[leaden wraith]

Piercing Blows

[static arch]

Why do they call it sure crit instead of piercing blows then

Like if I have zebstrika'a TM for a guaranteed crit next turn does that bypass Vigilance too

[ebon valve]

PB ignores vigilance, but you still need crit rating to critically strike

or in this case the status change

[leaden wraith]

Palmer has Clutch Critical, that makes all attacks becoming crit. Normally it doesnt bypass Vigilance but he also has Piercing Blows which ignores Vigilance

So crit shield is the only option if you dont want to eat crits

[ebon valve]

No it doesn't. Because Elesa doesn't have piercing blows.

Most stages don't employ Vigilance, so not a big concern. Only some older stages and some EBs have conditional crit immunity nowadays.

[simple frost]

+100% Critical Damage Up. For Sync and Moves 😮

I managed to clear an entire rally with just +10 of it.

and no stat buffs except for like, the free ones iirc.

SST Red just goes nuts.

[static arch]

What's the point of piercing blows if the crit shield overpowers it

[fossil sandal]

Piercing blows doesn't go through field conditions

Only the enemies' passives

[wary kayak]

Piercing Blows can bypass Vigilance (which Palmer will gleefully exploit on you)

[ebon valve]

The crit shield is very rare, and meant to highlight sync pairs with Defog.

[arctic jasper]

And only thing that scares me in battle rally is penny

Lowers all my stats

Really annoying

[ebon valve]

if you can, ssMisty has stat drop protection

[arctic jasper]

What about crit hit rate

[ebon valve]

Mist prevents all stat drops from occuring

pretty sure there was more than misty

in-game filter 💩

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[ebon valve]

Here you go. These pairs can prevent those sides on Penny's battle from Hazing.

ssMisty, Olympia & Jasmine are the only spotlights with it.

[stark dawn]

and Olympia

2fast4me

[ebon valve]

just noticed :3

[formal gull]

Wonderful

[wraith shale]

the maximum bonus gain is still x3 right? even if you run x1.5 x3

[ebon valve]

x4 is the maximum bonus.

there's +1 base, and 0.5 for each role

x4 requires a trio of EX role units all with matching bonus roles.

[wraith shale]

can i still get x4 if it's 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.0 ?

[ebon valve]

The multiplier you're seeing underneath sync pairs is additive.

The base starts at x1.
Then you add 0.5 for each role.

0 roles = x1
1 role = x1.5
2 roles = x2.0
3 roles =x2.5
4 is x3
5 is x3.5
6 is x4

[wraith shale]

oh i see. as for the item boost, let say currently i have psychic boost x1 for 100% stats , if i buy another 1 from the shop, the stock will become x2. Does that means if i put 1 random psychic char in the team, i will get 200% boost instead?

[ebon valve]

My post was referring to the score.

As for items, the boosts will stack.

If your item says Stock 3: and it's a 100% boost to your stats, than it will be multiplied by the stock. So a 300% boost is x4 stats.

[wraith shale]

okay ty, will try the mode rn 👍

[ebon valve]

Items with red text displayed in their effects, will specify if they're one use only.

[formal gull]

[leaden wraith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/415089067479400448/1116542356582314014/ezgif-3-d4b8e799b8.gif

never forget

[formal gull]

Got Lucy for the UB, that was fun

[ebon valve]

my 8x support route had mostly event battles with gimmicks

so i feel for you there

[formal gull]

i got a bunch of Kalos CS and the NC Rosa EBE

had to went for the hard instead bc the boost was also unfavorable on those stages

[gentle maple]

I got that too this week but my starting boost was hoenn so I had a much easier time spent only 50 and end with 9k

[west abyss]

Lucky stages my beloved

[gentle maple]

Wish I got lucky stages too

[formal gull]

I want lucky stages

Instead I got
Elec weak Aaron
Malva
NC Rosa EBE

[karmic briar]

Wtf congratsss

[west abyss]

ty ty

It was a really ideal run, mostly support

No Sprint/Field

[leaden wraith]

stop being lucky

[ebon valve]

[tame forge]

Still haven't found one

If I get it I might be able to buy all power ups

[west abyss]

I'm trying to min-max as much as possible so I can afford some of the skill feathers

[tame forge]

It's fun to do that too

[gentle maple]

Just do only one purchase and wait for it to be on sales

At least that's what I did for this week

[kindred seal]

@ebon valve if you wanna see how I eventually won last night with your help. I wasn't playing the best, but I figured the extra 100% boost would help cinch it
https://youtu.be/nI7BIya-KW4

[ebon valve]

interesting

If you had done a ground zone before the last sync, a noncrit would've KO'd and probably one shot the sides with the next bulldoze

But glad you made it with just an extra 100pts spent

[formal gull]

GIB

[west abyss]

I'm hogging them

[muted sparrow]

No way

[west abyss]

It's this set

[muted sparrow]

Imagine go SC Rosa-SSA Cynthia-NC Blue on last round

[formal gull]

If ur hogging rally luck what will happen to your gacha luck

[west abyss]

Well they're intent on making me pity anyway so I may as well get lucky somewhere

[formal gull]

Pity streaks damn

Get well soon

[static arch]

God I want klefki lol. It shows up everywhere

[ebon valve]

Now you'll get all event stages and ebes for your run.

[west abyss]

Not claiming any of this energy

[leaden wraith]

EBEs are still a myth for me. Havent encountered one

[kindred seal]

50 points, actually! So the final deduction total was still better than before. Thanks again for your help!

[wary kayak]

I've had a few fights I didn't recognize, some of which seemed stronger than expected. Wonder if they were EBEs I'd forgotten

[west abyss]

Has anyone had an EBE?

Are they even in the pool?

[wary kayak]

Kinda hope not. Hoenn/Sinnoh/Kalos League are bad enough already

[west abyss]

Yea I think they might not be in there

I got one with the SS Kantrio but can't recall if that was a BC or an EBE

[naive tendon]

got it

used tm on nemona after team first sync, used ghost max move instead of max guard and managed to win pre-sync

[plush anchor]

An EBE like Hoenn's would be an extreme nightmare. They all have tough skin and are a hassle to deal with in general, imagine stage 9 with that blasphemy

[fathom yacht]

If they don’t have resilience, i Flinch them a billion

[karmic briar]

Already told but that’s a beautiful set

[wary kayak]

All those hearts for Palentine week. Seasonally appropriate

[west abyss]

Love me some

[craggy helm]

So, how should I go about the battle rally? I’m mostly doing it for and not the vouchers (I don’t care for the EX roll tbh) I read the pinned and it said not to go w/ powerful teams at first so I’m thinking of switching SSA Cynthia to a different fighting type (Ash and SST Red are there from my last run) I’m just wondering what teams would be good until like area 6?

[wary kayak]

Eggmons and weird launch-era units, to match the role bonuses for that stage

Once a pair is swapped out (or faints), they're eliminated for the rest of that rally. You can use an unlimited number of pairs, you just can't bring someone back in once they're out.
And the frequently-shifting role bonuses encourage you to swap people out every round

Let's see... Two possible role patterns can come from that first round. Both are balanced-style (each role will be bonused 4 times)

You probably have more than ten strong supports, tbh, so you can afford to use a real one when Support is bonused

Fighting Type upgrade, huh...

Stage 2 will be either Striker & Tech, or Field & Sprint
Regardless of which it is, Field & Sprint will happen again on Stage 7 either way

Bit of a cruel joke that you have Fighting Upgrade but Riley isn't here until next week

What's in your first shop?

[craggy helm]

This is why I liked battle villa 😂 no actual thought needed, can gun-ho w/ Ash/SST red/CH Blue

[wary kayak]

GungHo? No, that's the Puzzle & Dragons company. This game is made by DeNA

[hallow bolt]

[wary kayak]

I feel like that's kind of the problem with Battle Villa, really. No more strategizing

[craggy helm]

But here’s my shop, pay no mind to the team just fiddling around atm

[wary kayak]

Alright, let's see.
Which trainer group is that green one?

[craggy helm]

But I don’t like strategizing 😂

[craggy helm]

Trial giver

[wary kayak]

Maylene's good, but maybe too good for round 1... I'd throw a support Fighting eggmon in, this early. Maybe not even Primeape

For this stage I'd use three weakish Supports, at least one of which is Fighting. You should still be able to win easily

Marlon or something.

[craggy helm]

I do not touch my eggmons 😂 I have too many shiny mankey

[wary kayak]

They're perfect for this tho

Especially funny if you get Main Character Upgrade, as they all have the Main Character tag

[craggy helm]

I've just never touched em' lmao, I've paired w/ a few but most just stay in the daycare or get traded to free up space

Who would classify as weak-ish supports? I have marlon, maylene and im struggling for a 3rd member

[wary kayak]

The Magikarps, the non-Kanto starters, and the Eevees are actually pretty sweet among eggmons. The Eevees in particular are the first freebie Dark, Fairy, Ice, and Grass field setters

[wary kayak]

An egg support. Maylene's buffset is really good

Atk, Crit, Acc, Speed

Marlon, an egg Fighting support (that isn't Primeape because its buffset is pretty good), and... Maybe a lodge support, or Gio/Persian, or Kali, or Liza/Lunatone

[craggy helm]

This maybe???

[wary kayak]

Yeah, maybe. Machamp is very shitty and thus very disposable

Your Fighting Upgrade means the whole team has double stats just for having it there, which is plenty for the first stage

Next stage has no Support bonus so you can use up your TMs freely

[vagrant moon]

You don't need to go that low in terms of weak unita

You have 230 units and you're only gonna use 30

[craggy helm]

Yeah I uh am not doing a dent against very hard w/ this team lmao

Could go down to hard ig?

[vagrant moon]

Misty does good dmg and is water, choose a supp that buft crit and beat the stage with her

You don't need to go the lowest of what you got

[wary kayak]

Yeah, scoot your standards up if you can't win with the weakest

[half bone]

Okay, what event is this from?

[wary kayak]

...Akari&Rei maybe?

[vagrant moon]

Yes

[half bone]

Dragon field, apparently.

[wary kayak]

(The other alternative is to buy another stack of Fighting Upgrade, bringing you to triple stats)

[craggy helm]

Maybeeee???? Ugh I hate strategizing

[half bone]

Would Akari be worth using here? This is the last time Field is used and it'd be a double multipler in this case since she has EX Strike.

[wary kayak]

...The stars practically aligned for him then

[heavy fjord]

in that case, absolutely

[half bone]

Akari's a girl. XD

[vagrant moon]

Tank with Misty

[wary kayak]

Maybe. Hydro Pump is nuts, and that torchic amps it well

[half bone]

I just need someone to tank now.

[wary kayak]

Hecc. I never memorized which was which and I just came from a game that had crossovers with Evangelion

[half bone]

Maybe Hilda and Emboar?

[vagrant moon]

Do you have Victor still?

[half bone]

Not helped that Rei gets a bow (Decidueye) and Akari gets a sword (Samurwott), effectively. Which are generally not what you'd associate males and females with in Japan.

[half bone]

burned him for the previous round, which was support/field.

I don't think it'd have been worth it to use up Redchu for it.

[vagrant moon]

Any strike that isn't gonna be used later on then

[wary kayak]

Hm, technically he's still available if at 0 MP

[half bone]

He took some hits too. Half health.

[wary kayak]

Oof. Hm...

[craggy helm]

I know it’s a very hard area but that’s gross for a round 1 stage, evasion, trapping AND burn 😭

[nimble schooner]

Ooof yikes

[vagrant moon]

Have you tried yet

[nimble schooner]

That is not fun

[wary kayak]

What worries me is that this stage may have been meant for the Johtrio

[vagrant moon]

It's for Eusine

[nimble schooner]

R1 should mean it is doable but yeah

[wary kayak]

Oh, okay

Wrong Suicune

[half bone]

not sure how much of an improvement that is. XD

[half bone]

I got one meant for Redchu and Aura Cynth, I feel your pain.

[vagrant moon]

Idk what that implies, I was just stating a fact

[wary kayak]

Can Misty take Morty out before he syncs?

[craggy helm]

Bro really threw me a stage for a unit I don’t have 😭😂 I’m not even sure if I can beat it w/ the team I have rn

[wary kayak]

Just to be clear, I think you got unlucky with your opponent here

[vagrant moon]

Have you tried?

[craggy helm]

Haven’t tried yet 😂 got trapped + burned and reset the stage lmao

[wary kayak]

Misty can cure burns on her teammates with innate Healing Hands. That leaves the traps...

[vagrant moon]

You can just dodge

[wary kayak]

Misty does help with that too

Give the tank evasion

[vagrant moon]

If trap is necessary you can just replace Torchic with BP Barry

[craggy helm]

Misty is the tank and she got trapped burned

[wary kayak]

Let someone else tank, they can spam TMs or even sit idle when trapped

But I do know of one other alternative, which helped me in the Gauntlet once upon a time

Swap Torchic for this

[half bone]

...Okay, wow, they hit hard.

[wary kayak]

If they're using Roar of Time in Dragon Zone, I wouldn't be surprised

[half bone]

Dragon Pulse. OUTSIDE of Dragon Zone.

[wary kayak]

I am now surprised

[half bone]

40%, just about. chance of around 80-90% with crit, it looks like.

[craggy helm]

What's acute senses 4 do again?

[wary kayak]

Not the worst I've taken (OHKOs with Dragon Pulses from Drasna)

[half bone]

This was on Hilda, to note, who's one of hte tankier Strike pairs I have. With EX. And the gear that increases fire type HP. AND level 150.

[heavy fjord]

reduced damage with no status change

40% reduced i think

[wary kayak]

40% damage mitigation unless-- yeah that

Changes are not conditions, so you can deactivate this with trap or confuse or even rebuff

Let's see, Misty has water pulse? Maybe that can work

[oak jolt]

The exact same lineup I got today

[wary kayak]

Sheeeee does not

This just got complicated af

We might have to break out some actually good shit

[craggy helm]

Again this is area ONE

[heavy fjord]

area one doesnt necessarily mean an easier fight than every other

[oak jolt]

Area 1 is easy

[heavy fjord]

they have the lowest stats but considering the fight itself is random, it could have harder conditions to manage than area 3 would

[half bone]

It's the difference between 'likely' or 'tends to be' and 'will be'.

[heavy fjord]

and ofc if you hit a lucky area thats easier than area one for sure

[wary kayak]

Let's see, this is the list of pairs (at least, the ones I have) who are Supports that can Confuse or Trap. Morty vs Morty?

Lodge 'rola, maybe

[heavy fjord]

bp morty is probably who id use

confuse ray is accurate and you have aggravation 1 astonish for turn denial as well

[craggy helm]

I could switch quaxly for egg blastiose? Rain dance and water pulse?

I know it's not support but if we're keeping for water for misty...

[oak jolt]

Lodge acerola has confuse ray too

[craggy helm]

I don't have lodge acerola

OH SURE FLITCH WHEN THEY USE MP AND NOT WHEN THEY ATTACK THANKS RNG

[vagrant moon]

You're complicating a lot more than it needs to

I already said Lodge Barry

[wary kayak]

Classic RNG joke 😔

[vagrant moon]

He buffs crit, traps, has natural remedy

Buffs sp.atk

[wary kayak]

...Barry's in the lodge?

[heavy fjord]

i think they mean bp barry

[wary kayak]

Oh

[heavy fjord]

same difference

[wary kayak]

That makes more sense

[half bone]

Alright, thank Karen for being good support in this. Helped blunt the special attack spam.

[craggy helm]

YAAAAY

BRUHHHHH

I only have victor and nemona….+ SST red and SSA Cynthia if i decided to cake them…

[oak jolt]

That's a pretty bad set, the unholy combo is back at stage 7

[craggy helm]

BRUHHHHHHHHHHH

[oak jolt]

Sadly that's present in lots of sets

The only sprint unit I have is NC Rosa rolex

The main issue with the combo is that at 90% you have to go without your theme boost if you want to get all 3 units boost

[craggy helm]

Mmm yeah idk what to do for round 2 lmaooooo

[static arch]

Other than riley's role he kind of blows though right?

Guess you hope to use him in first 5 stages

[heavy fjord]

Hes fine

Not winning any awards, but hes still a sprint role and he has a decent enough kit

[undone fractal]

How much points do we need on an average run again?

[heavy fjord]

What is the aim exactly

For just cake coin vouchers, 6k points a run in a month with 4 Mondays, 4.8k in a month with 5, if you want the 5* power ups as well this raises to 8.5k / 6.8k

[winter light]

Just recently realised that there are shop items that carry forward for the whole run. How do we know which ones are for remaining battles and which ones are for just one battle?

[half bone]

The stuff that looks like food can be assumed to be the 'only one round' stuff.

Super-effective up just came up. How good?

[heavy fjord]

Every one that only lasts one battle has a disclaimer on the details screen

[timid hound]

If you select them in shop, there will be red text below the description that states if it'll only apply to the next battle

[half bone]

This is what I mean, to note.

[timid hound]

Is it 1-time?

If not, and if you have a wide enough box to always hit for SE, it's not a bad pick up for 100

Oh its the 50

Depends on how confident you are in your box

Because I'm afraid you may be forced to off type if your SE hitters aren't able to address any gimmicks in that stage (eg. Enemy has Wise Entry x2 and all your SE hitters are Special)

[half bone]

I can show what I have.l and say who has been used up.

[timid hound]

I mean unless you used the see all item in Area 1, it's a crapshoot

[half bone]

I mean, if I have a good variety, it should be fine enough. Plus, well... strike stages are ubiquitous with the current stage lineup.

[timid hound]

Yeah

Honestly just go for it, don't think too hard about it

[half bone]

The line-up, to note.

[timid hound]

Lots of strikers

[half bone]

Yep. That's why I was thinking it could work out, I'd always have acces to SOMOENE who could do the job.

[timid hound]

Going off of role pattern alone, it's probabilistically likely any given player would have an on ele, on role bonus pair sync pair

That's an excellent Area 10 role bonus

[half bone]

I do have Bea still for the fighting type aspect.

I just need someone who can tank.

At best, I can throw a Tech cake on Calem and make do and put in a Sinnoh pair for extra bonus.

Or just, you know... use Rei.

Current weakness for the stage is fighting.

[timid hound]

Do you have NCHop?

[half bone]

Nope, sadly.

[timid hound]

Then you should save your strongest fighting pair for Area 10

Palmer proofing

[half bone]

only NC champ from Galar I have is Marnie.

This is my current fighting roster, strike related at lest.

Kinda sad. XD

[timid hound]

What is your current area?

[timid hound]

Honestly throw Marshall and see how he does