Battle Rally

[static arch]

Or did they literally make it want more sprint and field to push people going for new units

[finite tundra]

there are

https://pastebin.com/0m23n184

set 16 - 17 are strike heavy, set 18 - 19 are tech heavy, set 20 - 21 are suppport heavy

22 - 23 field, 24 - 25 sprint

each has two "single-role-heavy" versions

there's also three sets total with sprint/field area 10 i believe

[static arch]

Well if it is split fairly across all 5 roles then it will be fine once we accumulate some more field and sprint

[fathom yacht]

Unironically not awful

Sycamore and Xerneas being a boosted pair is kinda crazy

Very dependent on if you can get support roles late in the run

[finite tundra]

fairy is pretty decent, my only fairies are f2p and it went fine for me. don't forget you can use cheap tanks at the beginning, even valerie sylveon with draining kiss can do a battle. sycamore is great, lodge leaf is pretty good with funny one bar metronome spam, the event fairies kali and katherine are good too if you've got them

[nimble holly]

Gettin close too 10k😋🧐

[eternal nebula]

May I ask how many areas did you do matching with 5 pairs?

[nimble holly]

I use in 8 all difrent units. And last 2 aura cynthia on 2. No lucky stage sadly

[severe bronze]

9.6k no lucky stage?

[nimble holly]

Yeap

And i got 10
Stage 3 x time palmer🤣

Dont now how you can get 3 same areas lol kinda stupid

[lost cliff]

got hit with sprint field at area 10 so i had to make do

[nimble holly]

9k is always top😘😘

[lost cliff]

true

this brought me great joy

also didnt help my starting bonus was trial giver

[fossil sandal]

6k on area 5

[fickle drum]

Field set with 2x Field/Sprint bleh 😖 but at least got a lucky stage so it wasn’t too bad

[gilded remnant]

Is 7.900 okayish score if i only used 1.5 multipliers ?idk if im doing it correctly

[ebon valve]

Considering that 8000 score is VH with 3 roles per stage (without spending points), I'd say you did above average.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009564564821639379/1204101010084331661/image.png?ex=65d38173&is=65c10c73&hm=62236c2e26bc2cd09421e1b79e14b758dd7617235eb287a72dc35299bf3963e7&format=webp&quality=lossless&
+500 to ending score - subtracting what you spent

[flint shell]

Horrible Boosts this week but we chilling

[muted sparrow]

This is so bad for me

[flint shell]

“Horrible for me”

Literally started with the ideal boost

[muted sparrow]

This is bc i already know the role

[flint shell]

Just add in Adaman for Tapu Bulu and your chilling

[muted sparrow]

Bad bc i dont get all 3 boost

Must off role

[flint shell]

Better than getting sprint field

Especially on Lucy

Where there is only a single ground type of those roles

(That I don’t have nor does most of the playerbase)

[muted sparrow]

I got 2 field/sprint early

Not on the last stage so i’ll take that

[ebon valve]

you could probably use NC red, and not sync with him till later

[eternal nebula]

That suicune heals 4,500 when rain is active, rain weather activates at 50%

[muted sparrow]

I already use him

I will buy one more Grass upgrade

[peak citrus]

are folks finding it easier to get as many points early (i.e. maximizing 2x role boosts early) and then just using strong units at 1.5x later? debating on how i should start my run with first level being Tech / Support. I can get myself a nice point cushin by haivng the 3 units with double role

[eternal nebula]

I get away with 1 or 2 matching pairs every stage and upgrading 100 to my default boost

I ended up at 6,000 points

[vagrant moon]

I wouldn't go all out 1st battle

[nimble holly]

I would love get argenta

[vagrant moon]

from 2nd on you can tell what you're gonna need later on

[nimble holly]

Never got it😘

[peak citrus]

ah right - so better to just play it easy on round 1, then i can plan from there. makes sense

[eternal nebula]

I faced thorton twice i believe

[peak citrus]

well, not 'easy' difficulty - but my non-op units haha

[vagrant moon]

tech supp combo you can use earlier if they're supp with tech

[ebon valve]

be spark and paulo, noland, and archer all on stage 1 and abandon them with no regret.

[vagrant moon]

tech with supp are both pretty broken

well none of them are hard carries

[eternal nebula]

How my boy archer has fallen

Oh yea, I do have a question

[vagrant moon]

using NC Serena, NC Leaf or SST Red early on can make a lot harder a Stage 10

[eternal nebula]

Who are the bosses on stage 10? So far I faced thorton gretta

[vagrant moon]

Thorton, Anabel, Lucy, Darach, Palmer and Argenta so far

[eternal nebula]

Wasn’t red one of them as well?

[vagrant moon]

they're all UB's

[ebon valve]

ncRed's in stages 1-9.

[flint shell]

Greta doesn’t exist yet btw

[eternal nebula]

Ah okay

Oh I meant Argenta

[ebon valve]

You can fight those Special CS stages randomly among 1-9.

[eternal nebula]

I should record what each boss on stage 10 does

Because argenta suicune got me by surprise with its rain weather at 50%

[ebon valve]

you can find all their skills and moves in the pinned pastebin links

[vagrant moon]

You can check here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J_Wf9t4ZIOMwdlYEsIzgENDdYCut-AEX0pJiwbcIrVY/edit#gid=0

[ebon valve]

or that^

[gilded remnant]

Considering field/sprint pairs are the most uncommon right now, would it be wise to spend all the coupons to EX-roling the pairs that get sprint/field as ex role?

[vagrant moon]

no, not really

if you're getting enough points, you're not gonna get more ex roles than you had before

so you're just using ex role for points that don't translate in more ex roles

[eternal nebula]

I would recommend to hold on to those cake rolls since we are waiting for the upcoming anni pairs

If you are f2p

[vagrant moon]

you can use them if you just wanna be more comfortable and have more options, but you shouldn't prioritize that over your personal preferences

[dry ice]

New infographic just dropped: https://vxtwitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1757002231860326537

[eternal nebula]

Im waiting for my boy deoxys on masters day to unlock its 6 ex role

[ebon valve]

Granted, of the 6 units that have those ex roles. All of them are pretty good.

[ebon valve]

So the Pizza is E? Earliest it can show up is 7. Why doesn't ever appear on 10 for me.

[stray ravine]

what did the letter A do to the pic creator?

[muted sparrow]

After Argenta dropped to 50% Health, i just spam Teeter Dance with Rosa

[ebon valve]

Looks like I got an 8x support course.

gotta love support field in 10

[hybrid abyss]

NCBlue having a field day

or actually... Elaine sounds really good for this

[gentle maple]

Reasons why I want to cake elaine

[hybrid abyss]

Honestly, she doens't seem that bad of an investment if you're primarily focused on Rally value.

[lost cliff]

I'm caking pal victor

I'm obsessed with his kit, he's one of my favorite supports design wise in a long while

Able to max both defenses w/o mpr on grid, able to buff up to +2 atk +2 sp atk +1 crit per hit, also buff speed, poison, lower atk def sp atk sp def

I used him in a BR run yesterday and he did great

[ebon valve]

[lost cliff]

dena giving us a sprint field unit when

[crisp token]

Yeah didn't help when floor 10 was Anabel with boosted Strike/Tech

Waiting on Sycamore with Tech Rolex

[stark dawn]

that's for anni

either half or real anni but no way they give one outside of that

[viral loom]

Not worth I assume

I'm trying to do a run with only sale items, or maybe 1-2 theme buffs if nothing interesting gets on sale

[ebon valve]

The buffs at start are expensive, most people just buy the Theme Boost 1-3 times.

What's the ! ↑

[glass patrol]

So

Lucy is more difficult than expected

And I lack my ncleaf

Hm

Nah Lucy is genuinely so beefy

I’ll take this as a lesson that just 2 region boosts is pretty meh

I’d like 4 total at least

Maybe 3 if I’m feeling frisky

Middle stages also way less comfy

Good excuse to apple cup tho

Yay

[fresh holly]

still am preferring the minimum spend, max rolls, hard mode (500 pt) usually instead of 750 finish

Seems more consistent than hoping the items play out for 750 on the last VH

[viral loom]

Didn't get to check
Now I wonder if Bug + Rival is worth

Round 6 now

Wrong image

[fresh holly]

This was on one of the worst load outs IMO (double sprint field) 5th/10th floor

[hybrid abyss]

how tf do you call this a bad haul?

[fresh holly]

???

I didn't say bad haul

was giving an example of minimum spend hard mode finish

saying it's good lol

[hybrid abyss]

I mean... having the worst role loadouts usually comes with lower rewards

bro I usually only spend 300 pts.. what is this bs

[fresh holly]

?

[crisp token]

Lucky stage??

[glass patrol]

How many watches(Rolex) do you have

[fresh holly]

lucky stage 6 unfortunately no double rolls

[glass patrol]

Also apple cup fun

[fresh holly]

I ex'ed field support magneton today

giving me 12

[glass patrol]

There you go then

Also

I wish nemona could normally do this

Rapid b shock go brrrrrrrrrrrr

Dragged down by appuru cup but it do be fun

Now lemme use it without crippling my rewards Dena

[crisp token]

Man I wish I gotta lucky stage

[hybrid abyss]

lucky stage 10:

[crisp token]

0 so far

[fresh holly]

lucky stage 10 would be wild

[crisp token]

Lol

You win Battle Rally forever

[karmic briar]

Can it happen?

[crisp token]

I doubt it but who knows

[fresh holly]

I've only had one lucky stage so far

out of 6? runs

[glass patrol]

Same

[fresh holly]

Like I said my only point for today is I think not purchasing items and targeting tier 2 floor 10 is giving me much better averages

[glass patrol]

It probably does

[crisp token]

That's what I was thinking too

[glass patrol]

But not buying many boosts makes middle stages not comfy

So I don’t like it much

[static arch]

Yeah 7-9 without boosts is really frustrating

[fresh holly]

Depending on box probably true, I just leave all masters for 6-9 basically

[crisp token]

Gives me a reason and place to use those "premium but not premium enough for floor 10" units

[static arch]

Without knowing weaknesses ahead of time that is hard

[hybrid abyss]

Palmer with Support role is brutal 💀

[glass patrol]

Lucy with support sprint but I used ncblue ncleaf

I kek

[crisp token]

"Go ahead, tank him".

[hybrid abyss]

that was literally me on my second run

[hybrid abyss]

oh here! have the sprint role as your alternative choice

[fresh holly]

not very useful info on this screen, but 8/9 off attribute due to just busted power

[crisp token]

So far the only time I thought Palmer was with Sprint Strike so Rei just demolished him, so I haven't really suffered yet

Anabel on the other hand

[fresh holly]

those are off attribute zero boost

[crisp token]

Actually nah I just didn't get a good theme boost for Anabel

[glass patrol]

Look at that ncleaf nccalem ncred

[surreal oasis]

Anyway it’s my worst score run, don’t care much about pts, just curious could I do 10000 spatk

[crisp token]

We are approaching JRPG levels of stats

[fresh holly]

Like I said just super broken OP units lol

Red + articuno can just 100% freeze any stage so they never move in this mode

except 10s obviously

[surreal oasis]

Sleep chain works too

[fresh holly]

sleep requires a "little timing" I'm talking super lazy at work mode

[dry ice]

Trash run despite having electric AND kanto upgrades .

I have never gotten a lucky round

[crisp token]

You already used your luck getting those themes

[fresh holly]

I've only ever had attributes

I feel like regional is a bit better

unless it's a really over used attribute

[glass patrol]

What the hells an attribute

[dry ice]

a fancier term for Element or type.

[static arch]

I hope we get a split banner akari and rei soon

[fresh holly]

attribute more generic term reaches a larger audience

and you don't have to explain how Poison is an element

to someone who doesn't play pokemon

or normal lol

[quiet tiger]

The dango is really, really good https://vxtwitter.com/CuuskQ/status/1757139204298186913

[pearl lion]

fuck the sprint / field stages

used up my ssa cynthia

[vagrant moon]

it's crazy that with all that palmer still isn't free

[pearl lion]

I have a grand total of 2 field units and one of them is sst red

for sprint its only ssa cunthia and 2/5 archer of all units

archer isnt the worst unit but oh boy is 30% flinch disappointing

its annoying how we only have a grand total of 1 f2p sprint / field unit

and maybe you have another 1 if you got archer / gio from the ticket

thats it for your options

Palmer round 10 w/ zero support? fuck you pokemas

[karmic briar]

You could not get gio from the ticket so it’s actually only archer lol

[pearl lion]

wait what

rip

guess i got lucky then

[karmic briar]

You could get gio only from the ticket from paid scout

[heavy fjord]

Man the role combos were rough for me this week

[fathom yacht]

SORRY??????

HOW EXACTLY is the Sync CD having 4 aneurysms

[urban ledge]

Geez a lot of people getting 9k+ meanwhile here I am not even breaking 8k points before purchase

[stray ravine]

eh, doesn't really matter much depending on what you want to buy

this is of course ignoring the simple desire to try-hard for the sake of it that some do

[urban ledge]

No I mean even if I didn’t purchase a lot I still wouldn’t be able to get close to these kinds of earnings

Only having 3 fields and 3 sprints sucks especially when the stages are spread far apart

[stray ravine]

swiping helps

[urban ledge]

Swiping what?

[stray ravine]

I'm obviously joking, don't whale or spend resources recklessly only for rally

[urban ledge]

Ohh card LMAO

[plush anchor]

I got hit hard with Field and sprints

What's the % and numbers they have on there why do they have tips

[stark dawn]

what % i don't see any %

[plush anchor]

Palmer being my last vh too, for ed me to buy 2 items

[plush anchor]

Oh my bad, it was japanese writing xD

Now i realized I never fully looked the picture

[viral loom]

I'm on last stage, and I just realised the hard truth that Lucy has Unflappable for some reason
Is there any hope with this buffs keeping NCBlue and SSSerena and any other unit?

Should I settle for Hard Palmer?

[severe bronze]

lucy has the lowest hp among ultimate battle

you just need a speed debuffer

zerena having status immunity does help a lot

[viral loom]

Serena and Blue are out of everything except 1 Blue TM tho

Would he be able to survive the fight?

[severe bronze]

no b-move?

[viral loom]

And are they even any Bug speed debuffers?

[viral loom]

Nope

[severe bronze]

might be tough but worth to try

but you need antitoxin on him

actually nvm i just saw his health

[viral loom]

Yeah he's been literally since floor 1 here

[severe bronze]

you want a potion user and a speed debuffer so blue can keep going

whats the other theme skill boost besides bug

[viral loom]

Rival so that's fine

[severe bronze]

i would ditch bug here and replace it with healer and speed debuffer

but they’re very rare

[viral loom]

Ugh but rolling antitoxin on him tho...he has Adrenaline 1 and that one was already a pain in the ass to roll

WAIT I still have SSTRed without using, I could have him as a secondary tank with Charged Inmunity and Shocking Slowdown, maybe?

Oh but no bonus

Is Lucy vulnerable to sleep? Excel didn't mention her having unflappable

[severe bronze]

shes immune to freeze sleep flinch

i just realized mc regirock is good option here

rock tomb for speed drop and tm to heal blue

[viral loom]

Hmmm, I'll give it a few shots

Nah there's no shot at all, can't keep him alive and have all of them Spd debuffed

Also the dmg is waaaay too low

[severe bronze]

buy another rival boost or just pick hard for 700 points

[viral loom]

I managed to stay on Lucy, had to buy an extra rival and lose a bonus unit, but oh well, still better than 700 points

Still a new record for me, haven't seen the lucky stage once yet

[terse edge]

Can someone tell me how the hell to beat Lucy?

Because that poison is just killing me, and my ncblue is already gone

[heavy fjord]

switch lucky skill to antitoxin is the easiest solution to that issue

[terse edge]

Well, that would fix it

[heavy fjord]

if you really dont want to, then finding characters that can fit Antitoxin into a grid set up, or potentially setting up a character with Potions with MPR and Friend Mend 9 could also do the job

[terse edge]

I think I’ll just stick sstred and ncred with antitoxin lol

Should let me get a much stronger support

[viral loom]

Unless going for bonus, I wouldn't use SSTRed and NCRed on the same team, they want different status

Also apparently Lucy is immune to freeze

[heavy fjord]

yeah, NC would just be for good damage there

which he does do good damage, the nuke especially would be useful considering the sides are almost more threatening than the Seviper for that UB

[urban ledge]

Man

I’m right on schedule for cakes but I’m most likely gonna have to get less than the entire powerups set

Stupid ass double sprint field both weeks this month

And I STILL haven’t seen a single lucky stage

[quaint star]

I think I will try to go for cakers that give either Field or Sprint first

Unfortunately those are still all time low compared to the big 3 roles

[urban ledge]

Sadly I already caked all my field and sprinters lol

[timid hound]

Unlucky: I got Ground Boost for my free upgrade

I only have 10 pairs (excluding eggmons)

Might have to dip into eggmons then

Hope I get a good pattern

Of course I jinx it

[ebon valve]

A field of pain.

[timid hound]

Well, fortunately, I can afford to bite dust

According to my calculations, I only need 942 medals per run to buy out shop this month, and 5609 medals per run to buy out shop next month

So long I don't completely meme I should at least be able to maintain my financial position

There are 3 bouts of field, separated by area 4 and area 7

I have Akari, Victor, and MRed

I'm thinking of sinking Akari first, then Victor, and save MRed for last. What do you think?

[languid scaffold]

Any advice? I always struggle with this battle. No matter who i use

[leaden wraith]

Can you show your shop? To see which boosts can come in handy

[naive tendon]

anyone know how to clear this stage? it has sentry entry 2 , and summons grassy terrain on entry/sync💀

these are my only sprint/field pairs so i might be screwed

[languid scaffold]

Sure

I try and spend as little as possible. Unless there’s something that’s actually beneficial

[leaden wraith]

Which theme boost(s) do you have?

[naive tendon]

grass and champion

shop rn

so like

i might have to just swap someone out to clear the stage and only get 300x2 instead of 200x2.5

[ebon valve]

Is your Cynthia caked? Not sure if off-type damage is enough for this stage. What stat is the Jelly?

[languid scaffold]

Yep she’s caked.

Speed jelly

[ebon valve]

these items tend to be more expensive, and less beneficial than buying the theme boost repeatedly

[languid scaffold]

Ah ok.

[leaden wraith]

Do you still have sprint and field pairs for later rounds (that requires knowing full set)?

[ebon valve]

If you can't clear it with red and ash, then you may as well clear Hard with more roles.

Do you have any other sprint pairs left?

Hard with Cynthia + 2 roles would be 500 points.

[languid scaffold]

My only other sprint unit is Nemona 😅

I can try hard. Might just need to get a weather setting unit in cause it’s that stage with the rain gear suicune that does like no damage 😒

[ebon valve]

If it's Argenta it needs status change and weather.

[severe bronze]

terrain too but support like blue and cynthia can probably can tank it on rally with theme skill boost

[naive tendon]

no, this is the only sprint/field

[languid scaffold]

I could try and land a paralysis with Nemona but 10% is low

And i got Tapu Bulu so there’s weather and terrain covered

[naive tendon]

first round was tech/sprint

second was tech/strike

[ebon valve]

status change has to be confusion/trap/flinch or rebuff.

[languid scaffold]

Ohhhhhhh 🤦🏻‍♂️

Thanks

Well I finished battle rally for the week. Have one extra pass but kinda tired of battle rally for today. Probably gonna use it tomorrow

[ebon valve]

my 8x support run has so many event stages... Fall'23 Lusamine, Hau Noivern, NC Calem, NC Leaf, Flying Zone Malva

[ebon valve]

[severe bronze]

seems like a good place to drop nc leaf

[ebon valve]

Didn’t know this was a thing

[stray ravine]

steroids

[gentle maple]

Imagine if it didn't last for 1 battle

[ebon valve]

So far I’ve spent 150. Needed half cake to clear a round. Only got the starting 1x poison buff. Binoculars to see what r10 was. Guessing I need to splurge on that Jelly to beat Darach without poison pair.

Yeah I need Acerola can’t bring poison.

[gentle maple]

Could just do hard instead of binoculars and jelly

[ebon valve]

With jelly would be 650 vs 500 and no additional purchases on hard

Kind of wish we could sell back an upgrade if we quit the stage and give it up. 😛

[timid hound]

I'm somehow cinching by

😬

I rolex'd NCNate but since he's a field pair that's in high demand, I'll chalk it up to a good investment that'll break even soon enough

Does Olivia have any particular gimmick? Seeing them rec Sleep kinda making me worried

[ebon valve]

Well if there’s a strike field stage in your set, you’d want to use him there. Otherwise stick him the longest strike or field chain of stages.

[gentle maple]

For half the price would be cool

[timid hound]

Yepp

I got through it, unscathed for the most part

You got some insight on Olivia, Sage? Anything to help me cook

[ebon valve]

Alola CS barely has any mitigation. This one has no passives

[timid hound]

Random bullshit go

Normal Gear would be appreciated right about now

Ok nvm Norman tank is not it

I'm so screwed lol

Do I sink NCBlue this early ?

[timid hound]

You bought a consumable? Interesting

What does that one do?

[ebon valve]

Stats x4 for a single battle

[severe bronze]

area 8 is not early at all

[ebon valve]

You don’t really care if they’re near dead if your replacing all of them in the next stage

[severe bronze]

ultra jelly is really great if you can get it on area 10

only cost 100

[timid hound]

Lmao

Marshall tank

Maxie battery

[hallow bolt]

Just wanted to get the Anabel battle over with so had Apple Cup in the end

[timid hound]

Anabel UB

Her gimmick is Fluid Fortification?

But SSTRed and PB units should bypass it yes?

I should probs get rid of sun too

[hallow bolt]

I used SST Red already

[timid hound]

Oh I meant for myself ehe

But you still cleared it so it's all g

How often does Anabel set sun?

[hallow bolt]

after sync iirc

[ebon valve]

Entry and every sync

[timid hound]

Why did she one shot May

[hallow bolt]

thats why i just went apple, 300 points difference doesn't matter to me

[timid hound]

I literally can't survive Eruption what the f

What's going on

[ebon valve]

Was sun up ?

[timid hound]

No

And she one shot May + brought SSTRed down to like 1 HP

[ebon valve]

What is your boost

[timid hound]

Oh right

I forgot about my boost

Ground

Well then, this is a problem

OH

BERTHA!

Goodbye Steven

Meaning I can replace May too

Maybe NCSerena? Dual DPS it?

SSTRed spam BMove Serena focus mid

[severe bronze]

you need a good tank to tank anabel

[timid hound]

Is Bertha a good tank

Let's find out

[ebon valve]

Maybe. See how Bertha does face tanking x2 Anabel.

[hallow bolt]

good luck

[severe bronze]

one boost is still tough against anabel

[timid hound]

Hmm...

[hallow bolt]

i haven't tried one boost outside of the apple for the very hard ones. i did use no items vs the hard battle before tho

[timid hound]

Thanks haha

[hallow bolt]

depending on the hard battle of course..

[timid hound]

I survived opening Eruption so hey

Not too shabby out of the gate

[severe bronze]

clearing anabel might depend on shop and remaining roster

[timid hound]

Okay here's the problem

[ebon valve]

I saw Spark beat VH10 with just 200%, not sure 100% or lower is doable. And it was a stacked team I might add.

[timid hound]

Bertha can tank just fine BUT burn really erodes on her too quickly

I'm at 200% boost btw

So now I'm wondering if I should switch Vigi for Flameproof

[hallow bolt]

which units do you have that have flameproof in the grid

and match the roles

[severe bronze]

are support not allowed?

[timid hound]

Role is tech field lol

[severe bronze]

well thats rough

time to rolex /j

[timid hound]

Does Anabel have HE

Otherwise I could just brute force it

[severe bronze]

no

butt

[timid hound]

So long Sacred Fire doesn't burn

Ok

But?

[severe bronze]

sacred fire high chance of burn

[timid hound]

Ye

50%

I'll take the coinflip

[crisp token]

I've never seen it not burn

[timid hound]

It's not like she spams it

[ebon valve]

She has HE1

[severe bronze]

oh

rip

[timid hound]

What's the % of SF HE1 burn

[ebon valve]

💯

[crisp token]

100%

[timid hound]

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

Bertha is perfect cuz she has weather + her defenses aren't garbage

[crisp token]

She only does it once though

[timid hound]

DODGE?

No wait she has PG

[severe bronze]

you can flinch her

[timid hound]

[severe bronze]

but she’ll use it again after the sides move

[timid hound]

Yeah

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

Hm

[crisp token]

Welcome to Anahell

[timid hound]

This team can do it

Like

I just need to find a way to not let tank get burnt

[severe bronze]

flameproof

[ebon valve]

Are you low on cookies?

[timid hound]

No

What are you thinking?

[ebon valve]

Ditching vigil is pretty lax. If it was a deluxe skill? Then I’d be pissed

[timid hound]

Well I can ditch Vigi

It's just that like what if Bertha gets smacked by a crit

Hm

[ebon valve]

You reset

I have 5k crispy cookies. 🍪

[severe bronze]

can you clear before anabel buff crits

[timid hound]

When does she buff crit

Before 2nd sync?

[severe bronze]

no support sync kinda hurts a bit

ye

[timid hound]

I think that should be doable

[crisp token]

Just before

[severe bronze]

before 2nd sync im pretty sure

[crisp token]

Wait sorry I'm thinking of our side 3rd sync

Yeah before her 2nd sync

[ebon valve]

Well, main concern is burn. 2nd concern is her health, I think she’s got gradual and that’s about it

2x gradual. Soothing sand+ hit and heal

[severe bronze]

she has team defensive buff which is nice

only +1 per tm though

[timid hound]

This is so joever lol

[hallow bolt]

are you gonna have to bite the bullet on spending 500...

can you do the hard battle

[timid hound]

Lemme optimize her grid a bit

I can do Hard and I can afford to Apple

But I won't because my pride is on the line

[crisp token]

Apple Cup is for memes, it's not economical, might as well just do Hard and lose less points

[hallow bolt]

hard + no items > very hard + apple

[timid hound]

Or I can abandon Rolex and just clear like normal lol

[hallow bolt]

Apple Cup is fun tho

[timid hound]

Honestly if I could bring a support Entei would be running away with its tail between its legs

[hallow bolt]

but you lose points

[hasty marlin]

What the FUCK is that and how much does it cost

[ebon valve]

I think it’s 100. Reduces sync cd by 9 after 1st sync per user

[timid hound]

I have another problem

This team can't bring Anabel to 60% before 2nd sync

Meaning my NCSerena syncs are doing "300k"

Aka like 30k

It's a lot of wasted damage

[hasty marlin]

Bro that’s insane if it’s only 100 that’s prob enough to save me from 300x300 to 200x200 average

[severe bronze]

what no support sync does to amf

just do hard

[timid hound]

NO

I know I can do it!

Just need everything to go right

[crisp token]

You know what would make it all better

[timid hound]

Yes

Chase coming into my dailies

Get in here you brat

[crisp token]

Oh I was thinking some apples in a cup, but that works too

[timid hound]

Never doubt me again

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

2 ground boost btw

That's it

Worst boost ever

Still kicked Anahell

This was such a lucky run though: 3 para procs, NCSerena got crit but BARELY survived sync

[crisp token]

Now that's what we like to see

[timid hound]

Bertha actually the GOAT

I grid for Gritty Guardian and honestly she was really healthy the entire time

I was more worried about NCSerena and she ended up fainting anyways lol

[severe bronze]

bertha ex?

[timid hound]

Yes

[severe bronze]

my bertha wont be able to tank that

[timid hound]

I cannot imagine how non EX can tank this

Also

Sacred Fire got para'd

So that probably helped lol

I think that's one of the only ways to get Anabel to "skip" Sacred Fire

[severe bronze]

fishing para proc on sacred fire

[timid hound]

I didn't fish for it

[severe bronze]

as long as it works though

[timid hound]

Yeah

I only fished for Bertha and NCSerena not getting crit

SSTRed is oddly tanky lmao

Like tf lol

Could be Rolex stats idk

[severe bronze]

field rolex and innate eterrain gradual healing helps

[timid hound]

Yeah true

Anyways this is probably the most difficult one for me so far

Apparently Palmer is a the stuff of nightmares, but the one time I got to him I had NCHop so it was easy

[simple frost]

Dat serena wwww

[timid hound]

Lmao yeah she died to a HW

But doesn't matter since she got rid of mid and side

If she hadn't got crit by a previous HW, she'd likely be alive

[simple frost]

I kinda want to ex role.her but its tough

For battle rally i mean xd

[timid hound]

I've only been rolexing pairs with Sprint or Field lol

Just to mitigate the burn for when the game decides I'd be a perfect fit for triple Sprint + Field patterns

Otherwise, I've been holding them in case they're needed for other content (eg UB)

[viral loom]

Battle rally has been really generous with EXRoles, with yesterday's rally I've literally Rolex every unit that I have except Iono

At least till AnniLillie and SSSteven rolex drops

[plush anchor]

Bertha, my dear Hippo, which I only ever use as a tank that sets up sandstorm
Actually has a good nuke too.

[tiny pulsar]

how many theme buffs do you really need?

I feel like stacking 11 is too much

[hasty marlin]

Just for the future when doing the sides of anabel fight. Almost always take out left side before right

[heavy fjord]

3 or 4 is usually reasonable

[hasty marlin]

Left having dauntless is quite dangerous

[timid hound]

Ah I didn't know that. Good to know, thanks

[hasty marlin]

Np

[heavy fjord]

It depends on a lot but 4 stat boosts and a damage boost is what got me through this weeks

[hasty marlin]

Learned that when I was doing the real stage myself

[timid hound]

Looks like the lowest I can pull off is a 200% boost

[heavy fjord]

I'm sure there'll be a time where I need more, probably will be times where thats more than enough

[timid hound]

Good to know for minimizing purchases

Idk if 100% boost is feasible

Feels a bit precarious

[hasty marlin]

100% Darach won’t be hard imo but anyone else is EXTREMELY box and boost reliant

Since you have SSTRed

[heavy fjord]

I've done the "only free boost" run before

It required a lot of sacrificed multipliers

[timid hound]

Yikes

Yeah I think eating the 100 medal cost for 100% is justified

For peace of mind if nothing else

[hasty marlin]

Lot easier to just take some boosts to fully commit to the roles

[timid hound]

I was gonna try but when I saw I got 3 Field + Sprint pattern, I abandoned it

[heavy fjord]

Yeah I think you can spend up to about 500 total and its pretty fine

[timid hound]

[timid hound]

I usually limit my spending to 300 max but I need to remind myself that I have the flexibility to exceed that if push comes to shove

[hasty marlin]

If you ever try to lower yourself below 200% stat btw Paris, try a single move damage upgrade

[heavy fjord]

500 might be a little overkill but I feel like that's a decent enough benchmark

[timid hound]

Move damage upgrade?

[hasty marlin]

+100% damage things

[heavy fjord]

Stuff like attack up moves up

[timid hound]

Oh I see

Oh I see

[hasty marlin]

They only cost 50 each

[timid hound]

The ones that are like "If X is fulfilled, +100% to attacks?"

[hasty marlin]

Yeah

[timid hound]

Okay, I'll keep an eye out

[heavy fjord]

I think those end up working multiplicatively bc of how they function and like

Thats really strong

[timid hound]

I think I picked up the crit one in a past run

Very strong

Cheap too

[hasty marlin]

Yeah damage x stats is your effective damage output

[timid hound]

I have a love hate relationship with how the free boost you get is always available

[hasty marlin]

I haven’t tested yet if they act additive like inertia or multiplicative like field

[timid hound]

On one hand if you get a good one, it's awesome

But on the other hand if the boost is not so accommodating to your box, it's pretty pants

[hasty marlin]

Imo if they change it it should become stops if you don’t buy it for 3+ shops in a row

[timid hound]

Yes

That would be a lovely change

[heavy fjord]

Yeah, getting something like Battle Facility Foe as a starting boost really sucks bc of that

[timid hound]

Switching boosts or going wide feels terribad

Rather go tall with a good boost

[hasty marlin]

Would be nice qol if you say get Hail damage and then later realize “wait I prob won’t be able to use hail much longer”

[timid hound]

Haha

[hasty marlin]

In my case it was ice damage.x2 that I had to abandon

[viral loom]

I think it would be for the best if you get just a starting choice between a batch of 3 buffs

Being a random type, trainer, or other

[timid hound]

I would love that

This is an excellent piece of feedback

[hasty marlin]

I’d be down for three random themes pick one

[timid hound]

I mean all 3 of them could still roll like crap for you but at least you have some agency in it lol

[viral loom]

I still like that the starter buff is always there since I might like it, but just waiting for when it gets on sale to pick it

[hasty marlin]

A lot of roguelikes give choice of one of three relics at start of run

[timid hound]

Yeah

[hasty marlin]

I like that sorta thing

[timid hound]

I'll probably write that

Very good addition

[hasty marlin]

For example Peglin handles starting relic wonderfully imo. But I’m getting slightly off topic

[timid hound]

I hope they keep expanding on Rally

I'd love it if we can get some freebies like those food items after clearing stages

I'd like to try them but I don't want to eat into my income

[viral loom]

Yeah we could definitely use a practice rally version with no rewards where you could try items at your leisure, it's hard to gauge how good are your units with only seeing things like 200% more SpDef stat and such

Or just put random Exp books as rewards like LA

[timid hound]

I'm down for that

I'm swimming in XP books personally but I'm sure novice players would appreciate that

[hasty marlin]

It’d have to be only on certain stages or like an extra type of lucky stage

Too many freebies and it just becomes too easy

[timid hound]

Up the difficulty

Or just do it on specific stages

Like Area 3 and Area 7 only for example

[hasty marlin]

I’d be down for like a 1/3 chance of each stage having a Food item or something

[viral loom]

Freebies would be nice if we had a bigger number of floors

[hasty marlin]

But any more than 1/3 ratio is too much

[viral loom]

But I think the possibility of having freebies on stages would encourage even more not using the store at all

And just relying on good freebie buffs

[hasty marlin]

Yeah it’d be a good encouragement to actually challenge yourself

Rather than always having to be like “ok I need x stats and x moves” you can be like “oh sick I got (item) that synergizes with my UB fighting team, I don’t have to further go into (item)”

[timid hound]

10 floors is enough ngl

Feels like the sweetspot

[hasty marlin]

(I hate autocorrect btw)

[timid hound]

If it was 20 floors I'd keel over

[viral loom]

Also I find it weird that you can save MP/HP refills, but not any other 1-time buff

[timid hound]

[viral loom]

I would like to be able to buy those on lower floors if they appear

But save them for later stages

[hasty marlin]

Wait fr? We can’t?

I haven’t bought one ever so

[viral loom]

Nope, only the Villa-like ones you can save

[hasty marlin]

Them being one stage things just discourages me from looking at their shop slots

[viral loom]

Any other 1-time battle buff you use it the moment you buy it

[hasty marlin]

I just peek at the circles and triangles and dip. Most of the squares are too expensive for what they do for most teams

[timid hound]

Same

I never look at the food

[plush anchor]

I never look-

[hasty marlin]

I think the only two squares I’ve ever have considered are move: heal and move: gauge

[timid hound]

Their art is good tho — it's such a waste almost nobody buys them

[viral loom]

Food is fine if you reached last stages without buying buffs

[timid hound]

True!

[viral loom]

They're better than buffs

[plush anchor]

Just stage 10 sometimes forces me to look rip

[hasty marlin]

When I’m entering stage 10 there’s no penalty for me to try the stage before checking shop

[viral loom]

MPizza is hella cheap for how good it is

Or the 300% stats one

[hasty marlin]

So I just go into VH there and see if I can do it

And gauge if I need to check shop based on first few attempts

Cause usually I can beat the UB with the items I reach it with

[plush anchor]

Yee i tried Palmer VH for the first time with 0 boosts

And boy was it a sad experience

[hasty marlin]

Usually get there with like 12X damage overall between move% and stat%

[plush anchor]

Fully debuff, change Zone, full defenses, still die to max move

[hasty marlin]

So even most of my gangs of misfits can steamroll a lot of ubs

[plush anchor]

We need a unit that debuffs crit now

[hasty marlin]

Now that blue is caked I’m never caught without a tank either.

[hasty marlin]

Snatch, Haze: are we a joke to you

[plush anchor]

please don't listen to me dena

[viral loom]

This sounds like way too many buffs bought

[hasty marlin]

300% stats 300% damage

[plush anchor]

Just apple

[hasty marlin]

Sometimes 400%

[plush anchor]

300 stats and 300 dmg
Ain't that around 500 cost?

[hasty marlin]

It helps me go all in on always matching roles without running into a wall stage on 8/9

Yeah I average spend like 500

[plush anchor]

Ah

Early spending for easier time

[hasty marlin]

These are my past couple clears

[timid hound]

Finally, Steady Aim has a niche

[viral loom]

With enough EXroles I feel like it's doable with 1-2 buffs while staying always on VH

[timid hound]

[hasty marlin]

I’ve never touched hard or normal. Never feel a reason to

[timid hound]

Still a more useful passive than Power Chain and Pass It On

[hasty marlin]

I’m gradually trying to lower my spend. Easing myself in since didn’t have more than two sprint before next week

I go to four sprint on Monday

[viral loom]

Also we do get to keep medals between months, right?

[timid hound]

Yes

[hasty marlin]

Yeah

The stock is what resets

[viral loom]

I've already changed all Role coins and 5*power ups and don't feel like feathers are that worth

But I may always be over the monthly needed number of those for both then

[hasty marlin]

Then save for if they add something new down the line

[timid hound]

I only buy cake vouchers and PU

Excess goes into bumper fund in case of bad runs

[plush anchor]

Me who spent all my extra points last month

[timid hound]

Unfortunate

[hasty marlin]

I can see them adding more stuff to the shop like if we need an item for lucky skill slots or the sync grids

[timid hound]

Hope you get good feather roles

[timid hound]

That would literally be a game changer

Double WW3 it's joever

Palmer watch out

[hasty marlin]

It’s not at same time

[timid hound]

what

[hasty marlin]

It’s to swap between like vigilance and cs2

Like with grids

[viral loom]

Most likely just a swap, yeah

But did we have conclusive info on that yet?

[hasty marlin]

They told us about it in dev letter

[plush anchor]

Ye from my understanding it's gonna be presets

Like grids

[timid hound]

Oh

[hasty marlin]

Wording seemed like for swapping easily

[timid hound]

Yee haw

The double WW6 dream is over

[plush anchor]

I am down for swapping man

[timid hound]

Now I will never realize my dream of CS13 Cyrus

[silent swift]

Vigilance and head start swapping

[hasty marlin]

Being able to have gauntlet skills and hs1 on diff sets is glorious

Adrenaline too

[timid hound]

Give us more sync grid slots thanks

[viral loom]

SSSteven's dream

[hasty marlin]

Pretty sure it’s confirmed to come in the march update

Not 100% sure if grid energy comes same update or not

[viral loom]

I lowkey hope it's not too accesible of a feature

[timid hound]

Did they say how many extra energy we'd receive?

[hasty marlin]

I just know the skill slots was worded to be coming in next month

[hasty marlin]

Nope

[viral loom]

Having to roll a 2nd LS from the get go to all my units

[hasty marlin]

Expecting +5

[viral loom]

Will be a hassle

[timid hound]

Wow a five whole energy

[hasty marlin]

Much more than +5 would be pretty meta defining

[timid hound]

Can't wait to get an extra 5 defense and 5 speed

Game changer

[viral loom]

A whole sync move node!

[hollow isle]

made a little change now that I had a bit of time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877301633644646463/1206881833120170054/image.png?ex=65dd9f4b&is=65cb2a4b&hm=ffb223ac18d7bac85ceb1df2be8180c2185a9e33aed237e7e8afa2a7c0a25ecf&

[timid hound]

Oh you right

[viral loom]

Nukers gonna be nuking

[hasty marlin]

+5 already allows for dozens of grids to get the missing accuracy or some other thing they need

[timid hound]

I guess

It's better than nothing

[hasty marlin]

I already know 20 grids and counting that the +5 would be a big improvement in fitting stuff 1-3 energy away

The fact we can at minimal expect to fix that is wonderful

[viral loom]

Yeah I feel like just +5 will redistribute a lot of grids and not just add more nodes to your actual grids

[hasty marlin]

Cause they often made grids sacrifice stuff over 1 energy short

From tile placement

[viral loom]

But also hope that it's not too accessible either, that's way too many grids to change

[hasty marlin]

My bet is we use the mysterious stones

I’d be surprised if it’s not related to the chapter

Considering the timing

[viral loom]

I feel like there's no shot of this happening, but I would've love if the extra energy would be related to raising units to 150

[hasty marlin]

Too accessible

I’m already at excess certificates and I’ve missed over half a year of lodge

[viral loom]

For all of your units?

[hasty marlin]

Prob have missed close to a year of lodge days

And all my favs are 150 already

And most non favs I use a lot

[viral loom]

I still feel like it takes a bit of effort for a very minuscule buff, or at least a special enough one in comparison to the other caps

Would be a nice incentive to get those, since Lodge is kinda getting on the chore territory

[timid hound]

Lodge is cool but I wish they wouldn't take so long

[hasty marlin]

The fact I have this many and can still go like +7 more 150s

Just makes me suspect 150 is not related to energy

[viral loom]

I mean, considering that we have like almost 400 units

[hasty marlin]

What I COULD see is 150-200 being related

[viral loom]

I don't think that's that many units at 150 tho

[hasty marlin]

Cause supposedly lv200 is in files

Or something like that

[viral loom]

Ugh not looking forward to this

Inb4 CS 6k

[hasty marlin]

Yeah going further beyond with certificates will be slow haha

[timid hound]

CS from 3k to 6k?

Joever

[hasty marlin]

3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 still have to happen

They’ve always done +500 at a time

I don’t see them breaking it since it’s been consistent since 1500

[plush anchor]

Bruh

Better give us move candies

[viral loom]

What more parameters could they add tho, besides 80% more dmg to Sprint/Field units?

[timid hound]

That was a joke

[hasty marlin]

At best I see them changing it up past 4K

[timid hound]

Not unlike Palmer UB

[timid hound]

Now you have the choice to give the enemy units your favorite passives, such as Piercing Blows or Clutch Critical

[hasty marlin]

Stuff affecting our own sync countdown making it longer to sync

[timid hound]

Maybe even both at the same time !!

[plush anchor]

Beyond 3k is already a hassle for half the players

[timid hound]

[viral loom]

Maybe we can give them back the OG sync effects to them

Bring back the omniwipes wooo

[hasty marlin]

Yeah I’m just saying it’s unrealistic to expect more than +500 at a time until a good while later from now

[plush anchor]

I know I will no longer be doing Duos past 4k

[timid hound]

[hasty marlin]

They’d 100% need to look into making more event pairs permanent like legendary adventures are before they consider much more for CS imo unless they give us more semi-free params for some teams

[silent swift]

Guess they are gonna get power chain 2

[hasty marlin]

[silent swift]

[timid hound]

Don't forget Pass It On and Benefactor!

[viral loom]

Honestly Hard Lv. 2 before more points

[hasty marlin]

Cause else unless a player joins during a full anni runup newbie would just be screwed

[hasty marlin]

Yeah this is long overdue

[viral loom]

Hard Lv. 1 has been on lvl 1 since release and it almost feels like a pun now

[silent swift]

Giving them gritty 5 along with the no status parameter

[hasty marlin]

Although I suspect due to rally they’d rename it to Very Hard for what’s beyond this

[timid hound]

Give them Fluid Foritification and Imprervious

[hasty marlin]

[hasty marlin]

Ah yes. Fluid Fortification on a stage that we can literally give +15 stats or so on entry.

Wonderful!

[timid hound]

The ultimate middle finger

Because lucky area + field and sprint wasn't enough

[silent swift]

Counterpoint only 3,000 HP

[timid hound]

Piercing Blows check

[hasty marlin]

It’s still goofy that N, Galar, and petrel are basically a summary of all the piercing blows owners, barring specific moves.

[silent swift]

Ah yes N meta

[timid hound]

Well you have fake PB units like aLillie MCSolgaleo and SSTRed

[hasty marlin]

Yeah, hence why I said barring specific moves

[silent swift]

Now we are gonna get Team Piercing Blows in supports

[timid hound]

aaa

Team Piercing Blows would be so broken wtf

[hasty marlin]

Extend Range is still my favorite passive

[timid hound]

I want Team MP Regain 9

[viral loom]

I mean, I think it's a fair move, they basically ignore most of the gimmicks that they carefully selected for said EBEs and such

If we get 3 Uber units of those

[timid hound]

Now Dawn can use her TM more than once

[silent swift]

Blue Flare everything

[hasty marlin]

Team MP Rekindle 9

[timid hound]

No not Leons

[viral loom]

It's basically free content

[timid hound]

SSEthan

Isn't it kinda the same thing anyways ?

[hasty marlin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silent swift]

Iirc rekindle only works with Pokemon moves . I am probably wrong

[timid hound]

Oh true

That'd be pretty OP though lol

[hasty marlin]

Regain also only works on pmove

[timid hound]

Makes sense

[hasty marlin]

I assume the difference is rekindle doesn’t proc on sync

[silent swift]

Aw man

[hasty marlin]

Don’t have rekindle myself

I know regain procs on sync

[timid hound]

Likely

Idk I don't use Leon that often

Or at all for that matter

[hasty marlin]

The most likely thing we can expect to come first for ally regains is Team Sync Burst 1

[silent swift]

Don't have regain

[timid hound]

Team Impervious

[hasty marlin]

Inevitable. We already have a gen pool with team dauntless

[timid hound]

Wait who

Probably one of the newer ones

[hasty marlin]

Drasna iirc

[timid hound]

Drasna?

Ah yeah

[viral loom]

We have team impervious on weather tho

[plush anchor]

Next unit will be Field with Sprint Rolex
Direct spit in the face

[timid hound]

Anni trust

[hasty marlin]

Bike duo

Easy

[plush anchor]

I want bike duo, but heck I can't handle bike duo rn

[hasty marlin]

It’d be criminal if they don’t get one field one sprint with eachothers rolex

[timid hound]

[hasty marlin]

They’re literally designed for such theming

[plush anchor]

Would it be electric and Fighting
Or dragon and dragon

[hasty marlin]

Electric and fighting yes

Cause of signatures

[plush anchor]

True

Good thinking

[hasty marlin]

They always do signatures with legendaries

Been a long time since they haven’t iirc

[plush anchor]

I am not ready for bikessss

Who even

Would it be

Turo and whatshername

[hasty marlin]

Prob professors or mc

[plush anchor]

I cannot see it as MC

Idk why

[hasty marlin]

As in the two MCs of sv

I forget their names

[plush anchor]

Yes, I know what you meant

[timid hound]

Julia

I forgot the dude

[plush anchor]

But for some reason it's not being drawn in my head

[timid hound]

Oh wait I think Julia(n) is the dude

[plush anchor]

Atleast not their normal alt

[hasty marlin]

Meowscarada and the female just makes sense to me for base pair

[plush anchor]

Professors being in their suits already match the bikes

[timid hound]

Juliana and Florian

There we go

[plush anchor]

Turo with Mirai
Whatshername with Korai

Funny thing i have scarlet

[viral loom]

You think we're getting the bikes before any Paradox poke?

[timid hound]

Sada

I don't think

[plush anchor]

Only know turos name

[viral loom]

Feels like a waste of an introduction to their VAs

[timid hound]

I just wait and see

[summer ingot]

Broski, i got poison upgrade now, after bug upgrade last time. Soooooo..

[plush anchor]

Sadge

[hasty marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/self-destruct-pokemon-gif-18234341

I can’t wait for a playable Explosion

[plush anchor]

I mean they introduce them together

[plush anchor]

You mean we don't already have 2

[timid hound]

You have Surge and James and Glacia

[hasty marlin]

Will be so interesting to see how they handle the move itself rather than just the death passive

[timid hound]

They all have Last Word

I mean

Unless it does a bajillion damage I doubt it'd be very good

[hasty marlin]

Like just imagine it as a gimmick unit

[plush anchor]

Passive skill: anti-self kill

[timid hound]

It'd have to be a nuke to justify it

[hasty marlin]

Use it and leave self on 1hp

[timid hound]

Revive Aid

[hasty marlin]

1mp

[timid hound]

[hasty marlin]

Would be silly gimmick unit with Explode bmove like that

[viral loom]

Hugh Passive basically

[plush anchor]

Anti-self kill
Stops unit from killing itself by moving
Aka
Burns
Poison
(Traps?)
Explosion doesn't kill

But makes it 1 hp

Grimsley 2.0

[timid hound]

Shedinja:

Tbf Wonder Guard would be incredibly broken in PMEX

[hasty marlin]

I forget do we have a unit that deals damage by itself being hit

[plush anchor]

I meant, hp dropd to 0 but never self-kills

1 hp in masters = you die to sync

Which is just sad

[plush anchor]

All our recoil users?

[timid hound]

Lots of units have recoil