Battle Rally

[nimble tide]

I CANNOT CAPITALIZE ON IT AS MUCH AS I COULD

[normal python]

I need to get a sprint unit because I have none at all (base role, not EX role)

[nimble tide]

like had it been

Support + Tech

or Strike + Support

[distant vault]

there's a free one soon

[nimble tide]

i would have so muchhhh

[urban ledge]

And not a moment too soon lol

[normal python]

Eh, need a limited one

[plush anchor]

The fact that there are 2 Sets with sprint field at arena 10
Who made this shit
Dena we need to talk

[sudden heron]

Don't you love RNG

[nimble tide]

Riley and Lucario: Sprint (Strike EX)....

Imma have to boost him up asap

[nimble tide]

where's mix red

mix red also been like

such a carry for me

like he literally just

[distant vault]

i'll be 150'ing, EXing and Caking day 1

[nimble tide]

omg

[sudden heron]

Where mix Red

[nimble tide]

mix red is disgustingly good

field support

slap him with SS Acerola and

infinite

[timid hound]

Locked behind paywall

[plush anchor]

NC Leaf my true carry
Mix Red also awesome
But damn Leaf been handing me Ws

[nimble tide]

giga spam

[timid hound]

[nimble tide]

also

almost

every run that I did

minus the first one because I didn't know anything

NC Rosa always gets used

Either it's sprint Strike

[timid hound]

NCRosa is so real

[nimble tide]

Sprint field

or whatever the fuk it is

[rustic dagger]

I got the most points on my first run when I knew nothing

[timid hound]

Just wait until Sprint Sprint

It's over for us then

[plush anchor]

NC rosa gonna get sprint cake from me bcz goddamn I don have enough sprinters

[timid hound]

[sudden heron]

This stuff stacks right?

[plush anchor]

Yes

[sudden heron]

How many others stack?

[nimble tide]

I got only 5k3. Costed me some gold tickets smh

[plush anchor]

I believe All of em stack as long as you can grab multiple of em

[sudden heron]

Ok thanks

[distant vault]

yeah all them stack

[sudden heron]

Well this is worthless

[nimble tide]

what is worthless?

[quaint star]

Can't be helped but at least Psychic bad a lot of great pairs

[sudden heron]

I got one that boosted sp attack moves if raised and boosted moves if opponents stats are reduced On my last run

[severe bronze]

this is why i dont use scope anymore

imagine looking at future disappointment

[quaint star]

Now that we just refer to the pastebin

[plush anchor]

I need to bookmark the sets, i will stop using Scope if I memorize that

[quaint star]

Personally I don't mind go in blind. That's part of the charm for roguelike

[oblique breach]

I used scope first time

[severe bronze]

field is really good here ngl, especially mix red, akari and cnate

[quaint star]

As long as you know when to swap and when to use your big guns should be easy

[severe bronze]

the self buff on entry is just nice

[plush anchor]

I want to get max points, so if I use someone like Mix red early but get field vs argentena as area 10 I retire because no way I am winning

[severe bronze]

well you need one tm for nate but still

[nimble tide]

alright

[quaint star]

I'd save MRed for later, no cap

[nimble tide]

never buy scope again I guess

+300 let's go

[quaint star]

Unless he's caked and allows you to reap more points early on

[severe bronze]

oh vgio is also good here but i dont have that 0.4% unit

[plush anchor]

If I know the final battle isn't field, I would probably use him early because this rolex'd

[quaint star]

Fair enough

[oblique breach]

Rolexed?

[quaint star]

Rolex. Caked. We got many terms for the same thing

[timid hound]

Feelin' cute might rolex ncblue

[plush anchor]

He has his extra role

[plush anchor]

Leap of faith lets go

[rustic dagger]

Ima go get EXR’s for calem and blue rn

[oblique breach]

Ah got it

[rustic dagger]

Now we wait for Steven

[severe bronze]

i’ll rolex calem if i get support tech on rally next week

[oblique breach]

Time to shoehorn 'Audemars Piguet' into a term

[nimble tide]

I wish my

[distant vault]

Had a look through all of them and looks like the most common Area 1 Role Bonus is Tech + Support, appearing on Sets 2, 8, 14 and 18.

[nimble tide]

Fall Roxanne is 3/5

I would have EX'd her right away

ToT

[distant vault]

additionally Support + Tech is on Set 21

[plush anchor]

That's why NC Leaf was my mvp

[normal python]

Would a near-two year player getting in the range of 7k sound right?

[distant vault]

second most common is Strike + Support, Sets 6, 10 or 12 alongside Set 20 for Support + Strike

[severe bronze]

me on my way ditching calem asap when i see support/tech since i dont need him for ub match up

[plush anchor]

Ye thas good
I been getting consistently around 7.9k so you're good
Only 1 set with lucky i scored much higher

Can't lucky replace area 10?

[severe bronze]

leon zerena stonks

although leon is probably better here than zerena

3 typings

tm refresh

[normal python]

How many of the first areas do you use a 2x role bonus unit with 2 role bonus fodder units?

[severe bronze]

max moves

[distant vault]

no

[plush anchor]

Her nuke + full transformation alone wipes the floor with leon

[distant vault]

Lucky cannot appear on Area 1 or 10

speaking about area 10

[normal python]

[plush anchor]

Would hard without Apple cup
Score higher than
Very hard with Apple cup?

[severe bronze]

by better i mean versatile

[distant vault]

how much does apple cup cost

[severe bronze]

500

[normal python]

500 pts.

[normal python]

Depends on how many bonus units you have

[plush anchor]

Lets say same bonus here and there

[normal python]

How many bonus?

[tepid cedar]

Is there a sync pair limit

Like can I use a limited amount?

[plush anchor]

Would it be 1.5 + .5 + .5

[normal python]

If you don't continuously use the same unit for all fights, you permanently lose them

[normal python]

Yes

[plush anchor]

So 1.5 + .5 + .5
Then
200 pts without Apple cup
Vs
300 pts with apple cup

Would be equal?

[tepid cedar]

I see

[normal python]

200 * 2.5= 500
300 * 2.5 - 500= 250

[plush anchor]

Interesting

[leaden wraith]

[normal python]

I wonder if anyone was lucky to find Crit: Power Up

[formal gull]

What was this Morty stage

[normal python]

Eusine and SS Silver's BC

[formal gull]

Also eeeww field and sprint

[plush anchor]

The points we get are exactly the same right?
So if I buy Apple cup which is 500
It takes 500 from my score right?

Wouldn't that make hard stage better to run and not buying apple cups?

[tepid cedar]

Can this game stop giving me sprint and field I only have 3 pairs for those

[normal python]

Unless you have some 2x units hanging around your roster, yeah, the hard stage is better that doesn't use Apple Cup

[formal gull]

Does it need interference?

I remember eusine can trap

[normal python]

Yes, for SS Morty at least

Because Eusine has Whirlpool

[plush anchor]

How would a 2x unit change this?

[normal python]

300 * 4.5 - 500= 850

2 2x units

[muted sparrow]

1k2 is maximum

You cant *4.5

[plush anchor]

2 + 1 + .5
I believe is how it is

3.5 basically

And full team of 2s is 4.0

[normal python]

Well if it's like that, then the points you gain with the Apple Cup is 550

So only a 50 point difference

[plush anchor]

Hmmm

I hate

[normal python]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-cup-winner-trophy-success-gif-15928729

[muted sparrow]

But so fun to use

[distant vault]

I haven't used an apple cup yet

[normal python]

Me too

[drifting mason]

It’s just overkill

[plush anchor]

The nothing you're doing has consequences cup

[tepid cedar]

What does apple cup do

[distant vault]

tl:dr
win buton

[normal python]

Turns on hax

[drifting mason]

Pay 2 win

[tepid cedar]

🧍‍♂️

[plush anchor]

Don't triple queue, don't use correct moves, sync in 1 cycle

[muted sparrow]

Cheat code with only 500 Medal

[normal python]

Perfect for beginners TBH

[drifting mason]

Depends who u got for lvl 10

U might not even need it

[normal python]

Maybe

[severe bronze]

palmer support sprint and you dont have rei

[distant vault]

if you want an actual answer:

Raises Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, and Sp. Def by 500%.
The first time the user enters each battle, reduces the user's sync move countdown by three.
Lowers the total number of moves the user needs to use before they can unleash a sync move by the number of allied sync pairs participating in battle.
Restore one MP for all the moves of sync pairs that use a move successfully.
Reduces damage by 50% when the user is hit by an attack.
The move gauge charges very quickly.
Lowers the Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, accuracy, and evasiveness of all opposing sync pairs by six stat ranks.
Raises the user's Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, accuracy, and evasiveness by six stat ranks the first time the user enters each battle.
When an allied sync pair uses a move successfully, reduces the sync move countdown by one.
Applies the Supereffective ↑ Next effect to sync pairs that use a move successfully.
Only the first time the user enters each battle, they are affected by the following:
Enduring

[normal python]

Yeah, which means you practically hace hacked mons in a mobile game

[tepid cedar]

Oh wow

[distant vault]

good thing you can get a free fighting sprint pair this month!

comes with a free 5/5 and ex aswell

[severe bronze]

its still hard even with rei

[distant vault]

palmer barely stood a chance when i had him on vh ignore the fact that I had 4 fighting upgrades, 4 champion upgrades and 3 crit boosts

[severe bronze]

you need to take a lot of buffs to take down before he syncs

might be because my rei is still 1/5

[plush anchor]

[distant vault]

1/5 rei is still great

[normal python]

I'm lucky to not get Palmer as my very hard Area 10 option

[plush anchor]

I played 5, 3 times argentena 1 time lucy 1 time anabel

I kinda don't wanna try palmer

[severe bronze]

thats with 3 buff btw

sync boost 1x, attack boost 2x

the most annoying part is he kept getting defense buff with swagbag 9 and the right side always use def up all on second turn

i got palmer twice and its waaay easier when i can use hop

[fleet plaza]

seeing people take on Palmer blind without Apple Cup and fail gives me energy

truly the baptism of fire

[formal gull]

Getting 2 stages with field/sprint combo

[oblique breach]

Is this like Champion Stadium, where once you use the pairs once, you can't use them?

[normal python]

If you don't use them anymore for the succeeding remainder of the battles, you can't use them anymore

[oblique breach]

I gotta plan

[normal python]

Which means that once you replace units from your current party, those units can't be used again until you completed Area 10

And just like BV, you can only restore your team's HP and MP with items

[tepid cedar]

At Area 10 rn
Darach 🧍‍♂️

[normal python]

Very Hard?

[nimble tide]

with the low low price of

250

you can buy a perma field

[tepid cedar]

Yea

[nimble tide]

if you don't have it then idk what to say

[normal python]

I did it with Ultra Jelly

[nimble tide]

nice

[tepid cedar]

Got 2650 medals 🧍‍♂️

[plush anchor]

Give up one role for the other better half

Or offrole the harder stage
They are the same pts right?

[brisk zealot]

Heck, Bea DESTROYED him with just 2 stat boost upgrades and 3 damage upgrades (but I paired her with NC Rosa)

[oak jolt]

First when I saw set 24 and 25 I was a bit scared, then I realized that o can use NC Rosa the whole run

[normal python]

Anyone got one run of 12k pts.?

[oak jolt]

I don't think is possible, not enough Rolex units available

[normal python]

So you mean only whales with 5/5 and level 150 units can do it

[oak jolt]

I don't think right now even whales can do it

Maybe in the future

[plush anchor]

In general not enough capable units have these roles (even as role ex)

Whales or not I would be astonished

[muted sparrow]

Not now, bc we dont even have Sprint/Field combo rn

[normal python]

I see

[plush anchor]

I hit 9k and thought it's an achievement

[oak jolt]

I guess probably even if every unit in the game gets Rolex it would still be borderline impossible score 12k

Expecially if you don't buy any boost

[oblique breach]

What's the number of points one ought to get?

[nova pulsar]

12k youd prob need a lucky stage and all the rolex

[muted sparrow]

12k is max point without Lucky Stage

[plush anchor]

To get cake
You want across your 4 rallies per month to get 6k? (6k * 4 = 24k)

[oblique breach]

Realistically I should hit 3k

[west abyss]

In one run?

[muted sparrow]

Wait no

[plush anchor]

In one rally run yes

[muted sparrow]

12k500 is max point without Lucky Stage

[west abyss]

That is really good

My highest so far, could've executed the last stage better

[plush anchor]

Yeah but it was really difficult to pull and lucky because multiple 2.0s (also thanks to NC Leaf)
That's why I can't imagine 11-12k at the current time

[west abyss]

Yeah I can't either

If you get a sprint/field on a hard stage that screws it over

[plush anchor]

Ye basically hell experience

I did a triple Sprint comp once

Man I was crying

[oblique breach]

When I retire, I lost a battle pass, right?

[hybrid abyss]

I never dared to touch that button

[west abyss]

You just don't get the one you used-up back

[oak jolt]

You waste the current battle pass, and I guess you get 20% of the points you collected as a consolation prize

But you can't retire until you get a good start

[distant vault]

If you retire without clearing the first area then you get no points

[plush anchor]

Retiring in general is not recommended

You can keep going off-role

And end with more points than ending on retire

No role still gives you 1.0

[oak jolt]

You should be really desperate to retire

[plush anchor]

Yes, desperate, stuck (new players) no more units to go through
Etc

But general idea is, clear even if you have to off-role stages

[oak jolt]

I guess you may end up stuck at round 10 if you have pretty poor roster

[plush anchor]

Just apple cup that shit

ONLY if you have the right roles though

I think without roles that would be counter productive

[oak jolt]

I mean apple cup normal with no roles is probably still better than retiring (unless you did a bunch of 100 points runs)

[oblique breach]

What team did you use?

I'm scared

[plush anchor]

If i understand the system correctly
If you get 300 pts from final stage (no roles)
And you paid 500 for apple cup
Aren't you going backwards?

Oh you mean final stage on easy difficulty? Ye ye without apple still better than retiring

[oak jolt]

Yes, but if is the only way to clear is better than retiring

However at that point I suggest normal or hard without cup

[plush anchor]

Ye

[oak jolt]

Cup is if you can't clear even at lower difficulty, or if you can fulfill roles

Don't know if it's easier normal no cup or very hard with cup

[plush anchor]

I think no roles no cup
Because you would net less than what you already had

[oblique breach]

I have only one field and only one sprint pair each

[plush anchor]

[oak jolt]

Yes but I don't know if vh + cup is easier to beat than normal without cup

[plush anchor]

I mean even vh + cup would be counter productive without the roles

You are better off doing the easiest difficulty to clear

[oak jolt]

Or maybe Normal is a more annoying stage that you can't clear, but you can clear Vh with cup

[oblique breach]

I'll try easy first

[formal gull]

does rebuff count to disable SS Morty passive?

forgot its fucking name

for eusine/ss silver

[oak jolt]

If you can't fulfill the roles lower difficulty is better than using the cup

[plush anchor]

What's his passive

If it's condition change

Yes

Condition status no

[formal gull]

eusine has trap

it was the bc made for him

[oak jolt]

The cup should be used only if you can get 3 roles at VH or as the last resort if you are stuck

[nimble tide]

epic

[formal gull]

it's an x advantage 8

[plush anchor]

Rebuff would work ye

It's just these stages are made extra difficult so you might not feel it

[formal gull]

ah acute sense

[plush anchor]

Ye rebuff works

[formal gull]

also nvr i stack so many dark power up and atk power up he's basically taking normal damage

uh does anyone remember a battle challenge with a steel weak diantha?

thought this was CS diantha

[west abyss]

LMAO does she have an aurorus by any chance?

[dense latch]

anyone done the maths on taking the Cup for stage 10 vs just doing hard

[formal gull]

lmao yes

but i don't think this is EBE diantha

[west abyss]

I got my ass handed to me by that BC/EBE whatever it is

[formal gull]

it's a battle challenge

[west abyss]

Like she would one shot all of my tanks

[formal gull]

skill issue

[west abyss]

I didn't buy any items so

[sudden heron]

Got another field sprint bonus

[dense latch]

The upside - I can use NC Rosa the whole way. The downside... not enough field units...

[quaint star]

Look at all those sprints

Definitely a bad run for most

[celest briar]

Shouldnt we have had a new BR coin after reset?

[karmic briar]

exr some stuff

[urban ledge]

Oh we can guess the pattern of role types from the first few stages?

[quaint star]

I still haven't checked NC Rosa's kit. Just pulled her at 1/5 level 1

[urban ledge]

I love NC Rosa, sturdy as heck and just piles on both attack ups like crazy haha

[static arch]

@hybrid abyss I got 18 coins and no potential tickets. Could be worse

[sudden heron]

What

[oak jolt]

The sprints aren't a big deal if you have NC Rosa or aura Cynthia rolex, the problem is when you get sprint + field

Sprint + field combo should be deemed illegal

[wary kayak]

What do you mean? Those're weekly and the week starts on Mondays

[oak jolt]

Garfield hates getting Battle passes

[dense latch]

I did. My job don't pay as much as yours. Can't

[oak jolt]

My only sprint unit is NC rosa

[hybrid abyss]

I just have sprint coins laying around

[leaden wraith]

I dont even have any base Sprint lol

At least until Riley

The godsend

[limpid ocean]

If you don't have a Sprint unit, you can make up with an EX Role

it gets counted with the points bonus

[dense latch]

Don't be stingey and rolex your Rosa

[leaden wraith]

I forgot to mention that i have 2 Sprint EXR and i have already cleared the shop before the reset

[limpid ocean]

hostile environment 10 sludge wave

[stark dawn]

She only has 3 of them

[rapid notch]

Where's the weekly battle rally ticket

[leaden wraith]

Next monday

[rapid notch]

so we get 4 per month?

[leaden wraith]

4 to 5 depending on how many weeks are there in one month

[rapid notch]

so on average how many medals would we need per run to clear out all important stuff in shop

[worthy tusk]

For February, just the cakes alone works out to like 8k-6k

Assuming you used all tickets before February started.

[rapid notch]

i had 300 leftover iirc

[pearl lion]

argenta suicune is too much for me 💀

[rapid notch]

tbh round 10 easy

i love it

just apple cap thing

free win

[karmic briar]

Change job

[fossil bramble]

Does multiplier goes higher then X1?

Whats the max you can obtain?

For points

[tame forge]

Yes

[foggy hull]

Why you used so many points

[foggy hull]

Wait. How?

[tame forge]

Oh not that multiplier

I mean the role thing

[fossil bramble]

Just having fun. Was a test run

Using less points means higher score?

[foggy hull]

Yup

[fossil bramble]

I did use the apple cup at the end lol

For the memes

[wary kayak]

Free*

*Costs more points than clearing a lower difficulty without it

[rapid notch]

chuck in multipliers

i tried clearing it normally

lost sanity

[outer jasper]

So with the battle rally we essentially get 1 free cake a month right?

[tame forge]

Kinda cheap honestly

For a free ub win

You get all your points back from stage 10

[foggy harness]

Yes

[worthy tusk]

As long as you get enough points per run yes

[outer jasper]

Yeah I’m aiming like 7.5k a run

no items

[stiff flume]

So was curios and tried the jelly
100 for 300% stats is def the best deal if you're in troubles in the last match
Was a quite unlucky run, but managed it well by not spending much

Got a fkn poison boost

At this point better hope Dena delays Paldea as theme

[worthy tusk]

My boosts were gym leader (great), battle facility, steel, ghost, then dark.

And I never had anything good in the shop to use

The last one I finally started getting sync boost so syncs were finally doing like 100k of damage at times. But that was grueling to get there.

[nimble tide]

what set is this?

but DAMN

If I have that

Rosa in every team is a must

Sleep cheese all the way

[summer ingot]

If a stage has bonus for support and sprint pairs, do I have to bring both to take full advantage of bonus?

[nimble tide]

Yeah

You kinda want to

or just

[summer ingot]

What about one pair with both roles?

[nimble tide]

focus on one

like 3 supports

[nimble tide]

you get 2.0 bonus

instead of 1.5

optimizing who to pick is kind of a big deal

[jovial furnace]

2.0 bonus not worth

[summer ingot]

3 supports give more bonus?

[jovial furnace]

Unless you are using scope

[summer ingot]

I used the scope already to see every stage.

[nimble tide]

it's worth if you have 3 units that can do it for 1k2 max

honestly my goals monthly are just

20 tickets

and 20 role cake pieces

I think i'll be fine

😛

[jovial furnace]

How much does 20 ticket cost?

I know cakes coins are 24k

[rustic dagger]

500 a pop i think

[jovial furnace]

hmmm so 34k

I don't think most players can do that much as of now

[worthy tusk]

What ticket?

[rustic dagger]

5* power up

[jovial furnace]

Since it's 8.5k

Per stage per month

[worthy tusk]

Oh those, I'm skipping those 0 use for them when I have 500 and like 3k 5* tickets.

[rustic dagger]

must be nice

[jovial furnace]

Sounds like

[oblique breach]

f2p player guide soon?

[jovial furnace]

Well I don't need much ex either

[tame forge]

Maybe for psychic hse soon

[jovial furnace]

Since I already ex most stuff I use

[rustic dagger]

yeah i ex the stuff i use, then sometimes the odd random pair

[worthy tusk]

Nah I just have been around since day 1. I only spend the $4 a month for the 3k gems which I only use for selects.

[jovial furnace]

I am also day 1 but only 7 months hiatus
Nowhere near that ticket amount

[rustic dagger]

tbh lately its been a lot more random pairs since ive already exd all of the old units i use, and now its only new pairs and box fodder getting exd

[summer ingot]

We can change lineup each fight right? There's no penalty for that?

[rustic dagger]

there is

[stiff flume]

As for my runs the free bonus you start with keep reappearing in the shop so ig that's how it works
All you need is to stack one theme and slap just one unit to activate the bonus
If buy multiple it will be hell
In the one I spent 150 total I purchased one extra Sinnoh theme and one binocular
200% bonus is enough to drive you to the top, then you can buy the Jelly if you want or the Apple Cup is unnecessary unless you never beat a UB
Same for the all-see telescope thing, just expensive but far from worth

[jovial furnace]

Can't use the unit if you swap em

[rustic dagger]

the unit u change for another is dead

[summer ingot]

Oh, so you don't want to start with good units?

[rustic dagger]

no

first 5 stages are easy

[jovial furnace]

7*

Hardest are 8 , 9 , 10 most cases

[worthy tusk]

What do the binoculars do? I thought they made stages visible.

[rustic dagger]

they do

[jovial furnace]

Like first 4 stages you can literally use ontype supports as damage

And next 3 stages can be used with non gacha stuff

Last 3 is real stat bump

[rustic dagger]

last 3 stages is where boys become men

[jovial furnace]

Tho, if they do shit like field+sprint early, you'll use your limited units early

So it's all down to luck

[stiff flume]

Depend on the stage
I had to go heavy in some early ones bcs CS is a thing
Like some CS are easy some others are hell
Bug Siebold is painfully strong had to drop Ash at stage 4

[rustic dagger]

tbh if they pop up early you can also just not get the bonus to save them for later

[worthy tusk]

Yeah I had CS malva who wanted field and sprint....I'm like yeah no to hard mode.

That was stage 2

[jovial furnace]

Free Rolex for legendary arena units when

[fossil sandal]

Why save them then

[rustic dagger]

because the stages become harder and the field/sprint units are generally really good

[jovial furnace]

Worst field/sprint unit is still better than 90% of F2P roster

So using em early is pain

[worthy tusk]

I wonder if dena will fix it if they hear the mass influx of complaints about field and sprint?

Because they are too new nobody has enough....

[ebon valve]

Written Guide

#1232035765954019338

How many Battle Rally Medals do I need to get the rewards?

• Per month:
• 24,000 for 20x Roll Cake Coin Vouchers
• 34,000 for 20x + the Above
• +5,000 for 100k (29k or 39k for all rewards)
• Per Week:
• 6,000 (4 week month) / 4,800 (5 week month) for just Roll Cake Coin Vouchers
• 8,500 (4 week month) / 6,800 (5 week month) for both Cake & Power-Ups
• 9,750 (4 week month) / 7,800 (5 week month) for all Cake+PU+Corbs
  Also, before you consider buying the telescope it may be pretty easy to determine what your stage order:
  [Stage Graphic 1](#1009564564821639379 message)

Resources

• PomaTools Stage Revealer: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/battle-rally
• Absol Pastebin Stages 1
• Absol Pastebin Stages 2
• Stage 10: Maelmc's Ultimate Battles Doc
• Rally Shop Item Appearance Breakdown Infographic
• Scoring earned from stages (including the 500 bonus)
• Sync Pair Bonus Roles
• Rally Role Paths

Stage Score Calc:

Score = Base x {1 + 0.5r}
0r = x1.0 | 1r = x1.5 | 2r = x2.0 | 3r = x2.5
4r = x3.0 | 5r = 3.5 | 6r = x4.0

[wary kayak]

Egg vouchers...?

[ebon valve]

It's morning here.

[stiff flume]

The all-seeing telescope covers the whole run and you get it at the start
But it's useless, early stages are easy and you prefer having a 500% boost than knowing what's next
The binocular instead (50 points) allow you to spy the "next" stage
I'm using it when i'm at stage 9 so I know if I can drop certain strong units
Used it once middle way, when I had a sprint+field stage, I wanted to check if I can drag any of those units and was really useful

[jovial furnace]

Tbh I also personally hate strike + field or similar combo in higher stages
Coz I don't have NCblue

And penny suks at physical stages

[ebon valve]

Also thinking about for breakfeast..

[jovial furnace]

I got strike + field like 4 times

[leaden wraith]

just get Mixed and Clownace smh

[jovial furnace]

I am too poor

[worthy tusk]

I have almost 5k left over after using my 5 entry voucher yesterday so I only need 5k per run. I think that's doable?

[jovial furnace]

[leaden wraith]

wait why you do mean NC Blue? he is strike + sup

or dym by his EXR?

[tame forge]

I used up all my rewards

[wary kayak]

When you get dessert (cake) mixed up with breakfast 🍽️

[jovial furnace]

Yes and he's the only striker that can tank like stage 8+

[tame forge]

Might not be able to buy all the power ups

[jovial furnace]

Caitlin tank stops working at 7 or so

[fossil sandal]

8.5k on average per run for full 20 vouchers and PUs per month (4 rallies)

[tame forge]

my personal best was 7550 haha

Well at least I'll get the cake which is whats important

[fossil sandal]

If you average out 7k, that is extra 8 PUs per month

[worthy tusk]

5k is very doable right?

[tame forge]

Very yeah

[rustic dagger]

yes

[outer jasper]

Yes

5k is easily very hard + some items

[worthy tusk]

Oh that's very helpful

[verbal verge]

This mode is fun. I realized if you get a type boosted, you can use eggmons to give your party the boost!

[west abyss]

And no feathers right?

[wary kayak]

For 5k you can just buy the themeskill boost and a dmg multiplier up to ~7× each and pancake the mfs

[west abyss]

Skill feathers my beloved

[fossil sandal]

Of course no feathers

[worthy tusk]

Pancake?

[leaden wraith]

just whale to have loads of to ignore them in the shop

[wary kayak]

Flatten

[verbal verge]

Destroy. Beat them easily.

(It's an expression)

[wary kayak]

Return them to the 8bit days by rendering them two-dimensional

[dreamy pier]

What's the best value in spending medals? Roll Cake Coin Vouchers?

[tame forge]

I feel like full cake and power ups is way too expensive for a 4 ticket rotation tbh

[wary kayak]

New EX Roles are added way faster than we get the coins/cakes for them, so yeah

[quiet tiger]

Roll Cakes > Power-ups > the rest

[tame forge]

But power ups aren't as valuable

[jovial furnace]

I think PUs > role cake if you are newbie

[mild notch]

isn't the key for this mode to buy as less items as possible bc u get medals based on your points?

[tame forge]

Idk about that

[jovial furnace]

Since they can't get dupes of 5/5 units

[dreamy pier]

I mean I would say I'm a newbie but I don't think I'm lacking in PU's

[tame forge]

They'll get a steady source of 5* power ups from summon tickets when they're old enough in the game

That won't happen for cake

[jovial furnace]

Don't PF banner give 4 cake coin?

[tame forge]

Yeah if you summon 5 units of the same ex role you get one cake

[jovial furnace]

I mean even then there's less units rolexable than ex

And lot of F2P event clears still rely on EX'd units

[tame forge]

That's true

[dreamy pier]

I have a EX saved just in case

[stark dawn]

[stiff flume]

Noice, you got the sales

[mild notch]

oh my god the shop lady talks when you buy something

[stark dawn]

started with electric buff
bought another 1 + half prize lence at stage 9

[verbal verge]

Damn!!

[verbal verge]

Lence?

[stark dawn]

the item that lets you see the next stage

whatever it's called

[errant lynx]

Is there a cap to the number of units you can use in a rally

[fossil sandal]

Not really

[verbal verge]

Nope!

You can use 30

3 per stage

[errant lynx]

When it says my team is locked in for the challenge does that just mean area

[stiff flume]

You have to win with one team always

[errant lynx]

Gen question, is the only thing stopping me from steamrolling everything with koko/redchu the point bonuses?

[stiff flume]

You can do everything with one

But you lose bonus

[errant lynx]

Right

[stiff flume]

Key is the bonus, not winning

Focus on those, if you use broken teams like in Villa you'll end with nothing

[errant lynx]

And only one pair per battle needs to have the point bonus for it to count right

[jovial furnace]

Key is having fun

You need all 3 to have bonus

Each 1.5x

[errant lynx]

Oh I see

[jovial furnace]

That's why you cant steamroll with same units

Otherwise everyone would go deoxys, NCrosa , flex

[nimble tide]

Also

I did the math

6k points for each clear is for 20 role cake pieces

8k5 points for each clear is for 20 Role Cake Pieces + 20 Gold Tickets

[stiff flume]

The roles bonus? For those you get +50% every matching
If your unit is caked and covers both roles that's +100% by itself
(It's needed to get the medals)

For the battle bonus instead, stats and whatever, only one unit is needed
Like if you have Fire boost +100% on stats, you need only one fire unit to activate it for the whole team

[errant lynx]

Do I need to use fodder for the first few areas

[stiff flume]

Most likely yes

[jovial furnace]

Ideally you use weaker pairs at start

But you can get limited by stage conditions like sprint or field

So mostly relies on luck

[errant lynx]

Area 1 boosts strike and field, and my stat bonuses are bug and fire

[tame forge]

You don't need bonuses on area 1 tbh

[jovial furnace]

Just run 3 strikers

[errant lynx]

So I was using noland and flint

[tame forge]

And yeah even still you can run og lusamine and stuff like that

[errant lynx]

And fairy weak so I used Valerie

I lost but that’s probably because those pairs are still just lvl 100 for some reason

[jovial furnace]

You probably lost coz they are only level 100

Try to get atleast 120 on all units

[leaden wraith]

dont let recommended lvl 80 fools you

[stiff flume]

Ypu can have 3 strikers to get the max score multipliers

For the battle bonus you need one unit of that condition to ensure the stat bonus
One important thing, don't buy random bonus focus on one
Instead of having fire bug water etch, you can have 3 of bug
Means you can slap a bug in any team and the other two units will benefit of a 300%

[leaden wraith]

from Arena 2 to 9, opponents get stronger each battle

[outer jasper]

Yummy

[tame forge]

Jeez

[stiff flume]

Usually is good sticking with the starting one, unless it's shit like fairy poison or whatever limited

[stark dawn]

trial giver

[errant lynx]

My starting one is bug

[leaden wraith]

villains

Bug is not good either

[jovial furnace]

bugscy meta

[errant lynx]

Which is why I bought the fire

[tame forge]

Bug + villain = lusamine hyper carry

[leaden wraith]

so true

https://tenor.com/view/lusamine-pokemon-pokémon-sun-and-moon-pokémon-evolutions-gif-25514045

[errant lynx]

I don’t have scyther 🫠

[stiff flume]

Yes but the starting one keep reappearing in the shop, so you can stack that easily

[errant lynx]

Should I spend another 100 on it then

[stiff flume]

Try next stage

Only if you need to

[errant lynx]

I haven’t beaten the first one yet

[tame forge]

Don't be shy to spend points if you need boosts to proceed

Better to get fewer points than retire

[leaden wraith]

do not retire at all

[stiff flume]

Retire is not an option

[errant lynx]

Wasn’t planning on it

[stiff flume]

Just try your stage, you can quit and go back rearranging

[errant lynx]

Im going to retry it with the fire bonus and the additional bug and a full team at 120

[tame forge]

Alternatively you have till the end of the month till the rally passes expire, I believe

[quaint star]

By quitting it's getting out of the battle, not resetting

[tame forge]

So you can wait on potential pairs you want to pull / power ups you'll be able to afford by the end of february

[quaint star]

You will spend an attempt if you reset

[jovial furnace]

id personally recommend waiting till riley releases

Since he's a free sprint

[tame forge]

That's also a good one yes

[jovial furnace]

And sprint is a very rare role as of now

[tame forge]

It'd be nice if they also reran victor this month

[leaden wraith]

waiting is not a good idea imo, because you get 300 gems by clearing BR weekly

[jovial furnace]

Wait, the mission pops every week?

I completely forgot

ig clearing is more important then

[stiff flume]

We have missions? Where

[leaden wraith]

under Event tab somehow

[tame forge]

Thanks for the input

[stiff flume]

Oh those
Tought it was just related to the gamemode release

So that's how we get the tickets, nice

[summer ingot]

Oh my god. This is the point of all those support units with tech ex role. Goddamn.

[stiff flume]

No, they still sucks

[summer ingot]

Support with tech ex will give you that bonus score each round.

[fossil sandal]

Why use a shitty cake role for more cake roles?

[stiff flume]

Save for field n sprint cakes
You can cover roles that way

[static arch]

Do we have any units released that are both

[fossil sandal]

No

[tame forge]

Support cakes are also very good, for when you're stuck with something like field and support

You'd be able to use a damage dealer with support role

[robust ember]

Variety thorton clutch

[errant lynx]

Did I screw up by only using one of the two boosted roles in an area

Or does it not matter

[jovial furnace]

I still wouldn't recommend caking supports with tech Rolex
Coz a lot of techs tend to be good tanks as well

[static arch]

If you consider all types of content, support EX seems best investment with your choice coins. But for awhile I will target sprint and field for BR

[tame forge]

A lot of really good units have them too

[stiff flume]

Score boost? Then yes you need to match the roles to get more medals

[tame forge]

Leaf, NC Serena, Zerena, Steven Deoxys

Support cake roster is stacked

[static arch]

Like I Exd sst red, nate haxorus, and the 2 supports for 2 sprint/2 field

[robust ember]

Well theoretically isn’t the ceiling that all 3 units are both roles?

No one can get x6 though lol

[errant lynx]

My only field pairs are Victor and sstred

[jovial furnace]

meanwhile leon

[static arch]

Yes eventually we have enough units EX to get x4 bonus all levels lol

[tame forge]

I forgot about leon haha

[static arch]

EoS might come before we reach that point. Well mega whales who pull every MF with paid gems get alot of extra

[robust ember]

Theoretically if you have strike/support you can run zerena, SS piers and NC red and get a x6 bonus lol

[jovial furnace]

NCblue, sspiers, NCred

[fossil sandal]

Math not mathing

It's an additive boost

So ×4 is max

[static arch]

I had a 3.5x boost on the lucky area in 2nd run..2100 points

Too bad my shop options were trash and I barely hit 8k anyway

[leaden wraith]

NC Red is Strike/Tech tho

[jovial furnace]

Ah right
Then zerena it is

[stiff flume]

One cake month is quite good

[static arch]

So we went from 36 cake coins per month to 60

[jovial furnace]

we are already running out of PFs to 5/5

So they'll give Rolex to more PFs

[stiff flume]

Plus tickets

[static arch]

I counted those

[jovial furnace]

I think current influx of Rolex is still slow

[stiff flume]

Oh then ye

[static arch]

Daily coins is 30+30 daily tickets becomes 6 coins + 20 BR exchange + 4-5 BR missions per month

[stiff flume]

It will backfire in a couple of years
Just like ppl are farming in LG now
Silver PU are kinda more rare

[finite tundra]

it doesnt matter if you only use one of the roles like... as in tech/sprint and you ran three techs

[robust ember]

Ohh yea

[jovial furnace]

They can solve silver PU issue by removing the cap on monthly exchange

[finite tundra]

what matters is the number of matches

[jovial furnace]

I have like 500 of those brown ones

[stiff flume]

Ye, im always at 1k

[robust ember]

I have 2k

Lmao

[stiff flume]

Farming only the VA obv
But now we have feathers

Even if skill gears lost a lot bcs of Battle Rally
Too complex to use

[static arch]

I realizes the 4* are more rare like 6 months ago and stopped e exchanging

[static arch]

Yeah pretty dumb how annoying it is to redo a team sometimes all 3 per area

More reason to never use skill gear

[jovial furnace]

nah
Skill gears are still vital

You can't do some runs without those

Like tank Caitlin

You want the damage reduction and stuff to make it work

And +80 atk on form change units is still better than +60

[stiff flume]

Ehh, but if you exclude the other two, it's more likely they'll explode from sync

Skill gears are great for CS and LG

Or any themed team, sure can be done in BR

[static arch]

I don't even know what the max bonuses possible on skill gear are

[jolly hearth]

I just been using main character skill gear mostly

[static arch]

If I use 1000 yellow feathers would it unlock all the ranges to show me in menu

[stiff flume]

Almost finished the doc

The comparsion thing

[stiff flume]

No, I used 1k feathers and more and still have few not listed

[jolly hearth]

We need to be able to optimize skill gear 😴

[jovial furnace]

I have gears for vital types atleast

[stiff flume]

First they should fix the menu
Why we have two type sections

[jovial furnace]

Only missing on my weaker roster like ground

[mild notch]

i like battle rally this is fun

trying new units too

[static arch]

It is rough on a min-max addict like me

But only having to do 1 per week won't be so stressful compared to yesterday

[dry ice]

I just need point clarifications.

Hard Battles with 3 units with a 1.5X boost would be 500 points correct?

UH Battles with the same criteria would be 750 Points. just trying to check my math.

Lowkey about to make a reddit post ranting about the apple cup

[static arch]

Yeah 200 x 2.5 is 500

I didn't notice area 10 being a higher base score

I could be wrong

[summer ingot]

OK, is the final round 10 Thornton fight nearly impossible without the apple cup? Is the apple cup mandatory?

[dry ice]

it never was a higher base score,
normal: 100
Hard: 200
VH: 300

[static arch]

Yeah that's what I thought

[leaden wraith]

using Apple Cup doesnt mean a free win, you still have to watch out for stage gimmicks too

[dry ice]

this is the same for all battles, what's different is that.... you can buy an apple cup

[leaden wraith]

what team are you using?

[dry ice]

just want to shed some light on the math that I was looking into

[summer ingot]

Silver, ss Hilda, NC blue. I have electric upgrade from start. That's it

Didn't buy any from store other than scope to view all stages

[leaden wraith]

did you use Hilda's Searing Shot in the first 40%?

[summer ingot]

Didn't have time, Hooh and victini got cleanly two shot

[leaden wraith]

Thorton has Sentry Entry x3 at the first 40%

no need to ping me btw

[summer ingot]

Am pinging you? Didn't know that. Just replying

[leaden wraith]

replying to someone always pings, you have to manually turn it off

[summer ingot]

Where do I turn it off?

[leaden wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-reply-discord-reply-off-discord-reply-gif-22150762

anyway, can you take a screenshot of the shop? there might be useful but cheaper items than Apply Cup

[summer ingot]

Does 2 electric boost stack?

[west abyss]

Yes

[static arch]

Yes

Type boosts and region boosts are the best imo

[summer ingot]

I'd use NC leaf, but she is 1/5 and doesn't have ex role unlocked. So, no bonus.

[robust ember]

Anyone know how important it is to develop skill gears for the new event? Haven’t been doing much with them ngl, but I’m sure they should be of some use?

[west abyss]

Not important

It's just regular battles in a rogue-like gamemode, skill gear relevance shouldn't change just for Battle Rally

[hybrid abyss]

I never really learnt of how we get battle rally tickets regularly.. so how do we?

[dry ice]

please let me know if my math is incorrect

and if anyone thinks TL:DR

[outer jasper]

Math is right

Round 10 very hard is impossible without items so it’s easier to go to hard

[fresh holly]

Incorrect r10 is sometimes doable with only the starter item

Most aren’t

[ebon valve]

It depends on the stage & whom you have left.

[fresh holly]

And some hard are harder than vh

Yep

[ebon valve]

But the math is right, buying the apple cup, while fun, is an overall deficit to rewards earning.

[outer jasper]

I had a team of Morty, Anni N, and NC leaf with a johto region boost and couldn’t beat very hard

for the fire weak one

[fresh holly]

Nc leaf 3/5?

[outer jasper]

Yes

[dry ice]

how are some hards harder than very Hard????

[fresh holly]

get annabel on hard

and try it - without beneficial syncs possible

[dry ice]

Better than Lucy on Very hard

I did this with no items whatsoever

[fresh holly]

some of the rounds are just that unbalanced

[dry ice]

the opponents in Hard mode hit like a toothpick, meanwhile Very Hard hits like a monster truck

[fresh holly]

Depending on the roles / boost you are given some times the hard mode is worse if you get one of the nasty ones

[limpid ocean]

in stage 10, you either buy the apple cup, or you use the stacked region/move upgrade that you got from previous stage

[mild notch]

is the 10th stage that hard?

[fresh holly]

Some much harder than others yes

I had a field/sprint annabel hard mode yesterday and it was not clearable with the dragon boost I had. I was doing no item purchase runs

[stiff flume]

Just don't buy the apple
As you see above, if you have to buy that you can just do hard instead of very hard

And overall the themed boost are enough

Or get other items, like the Jelly (cost 100, gives +300% stats)

[ebon valve]

But that's not fun.

[sturdy stone]

If you know what support/DPS you’re planning to use, you can buy 2-3 power ups for their type/theme and its not that hard

[fossil sandal]

I'm sure someone will do an eggmon solo sooner or later on area 10 very hard

Just buying everything

[sturdy stone]

Magikarp solo

[mild notch]

magikarp pair with buddy move splash when

[dry ice]

Someone literally made Apple Cup viable..... but this was how

100 more points than from doing hard mode.

[fresh holly]

hard mode would have been 800 no?

[normal python]

200 * 2.5= 500
1200 - 500= 700

[fresh holly]

he's runnin 4.0 bonus

[normal python]

200 * 4= 800

[fresh holly]

That's what I said above^ so still -100 right?

[normal python]

Well, it depends

[fresh holly]

Only depending on if hard was clearable

[dry ice]

would he even be able to beat it with that team tho

because that team looks wack to complete in hard mode

[fresh holly]

Exactly - this is what I said earlier, when hard isn't beatable the apple cup becomes king, because you can do exactly what you did there stack whatever you want

Just when I typed this before some were saying "hard always clearable"

which is just not true

[stiff flume]

But before rushing the cup is worth chekcing other items
You may just need one or two small buffs

[fresh holly]

agree

[stiff flume]

500 is a lot of items

[fossil sandal]

Guard Chocolat is 100

[stiff flume]

What it does?

[fresh holly]

50% damge red?

[nocturne pawn]

Iirc it basically adds Protect onto every move

[fossil sandal]

Damage guard next on hit

Veeeery broken

[stiff flume]

Wow

[ruby minnow]

What's the thought here -- if going for cake vouchers, should I hoard my extra rally tickets to the end of the month and use them to make up what I didn't get right away? Or just spend them all now?

[fresh holly]

Rewards won't reset until next month so just get the cakes whenever you want. There is no making up for missing yesterday

[ruby minnow]

Yeah I had too much going on yesterday and accepted that lol

[worthy tusk]

I was able to use something like that and clear a stage with akari, rei, and uh the houndoom rocket admin.

[stiff flume]

If you're doing more than 6k/stage then yes, means 4 tickets are enough for next reset

[ruby minnow]

Okay cool. I didn't yesterday but I was just figuring it all out. I think I can probably get decent numbers while using my brain. I'll hoard for now and see where I am at the end of the month

[stiff flume]

I regret calling Archer the worst of the 4 admins, he's my sprint boss now

[worthy tusk]

Agreed

[fresh holly]

In terms of optimizing the longer you wait the more field/sprint pairs you have. So the game plan now is to wait as long as possible before using rally tickets

[worthy tusk]

I was lucky to get him I realize now

He has saved my rally more than I can count

[ruby minnow]

Oh cool, good point, thanks! As I...have very few lol

[fresh holly]

I definitely got some use out of houndoom / golbat rocket pairs O_O

[dry ice]

Archer

[worthy tusk]

Yes

I can't remember his name they all blend together

[fresh holly]

Same I only track the pokemon

[worthy tusk]

I look forward to getting Riley then I can run him with cake aura Cynthia.

[dry ice]

I tend to learn the character name like a pokemon

Proton: Golbat
Archer: Houndoom
Petrel: Weezing
Ariana: Arbok

granted, the rockets took me a while to remember.

[stiff flume]

Just check the emotes

[worthy tusk]

I mean they were nameless for over a decade

I didn't realize we had emotes for them

[static arch]

Getting a type +/or region boost seems like the key to wrecking all 10 levels and getting the best score, since you are strong enough to do highest difficulty on everything.

Starring with bad trainer type boost is a death blow, since it seems to keep forcing the same bad bonuses on you between rounds

[fresh holly]

these are my next cake unlocks- based on the 4 runs I've done so far

[tame forge]

What's viola's role

I used her lots

[fresh holly]

the rare "field tech"

[tame forge]

Ah tech

[normal python]

Which one?

[tame forge]

Hm

Ex role

[normal python]

Yeah, tech EX role

[fresh holly]

it's not a good combo, but for battle rally it is

[tame forge]

I'll check if she has multipliers on grid

She has power play

Yeah the tech role is good

And another multiplier too

[fresh holly]

Then after those will be the new master fair

"then hold to next month"

I already started investing in psychic pairs for march

I caked and coined Elio - also very useful in multi run battle rally

[tame forge]

I'll give priority to the support ex roles but viola is a worthy consideration

Been using 1/5 so wasn't aware of nuke potential

[fresh holly]

it's very often to get a "sprint/field" pairing

having one of each carry over saves tons of units

I had meloetta carry through 7-8-9-10 in one of my runs

1 - 2.0 + 3 1.5s

I think it's worth to get one of "each combo" if possible

then go back to grabbing supports

[tame forge]

Same here but with SSA cynthia

Uncanny how common field and sprint felt

[reef magnet]

My scores from last night, will use my 5th ticket after we get Riley and Gladion so I have more Sprint pairs to use.

[fresh holly]

on same game plan, but you'll need to use one for the weekly next week

[reef magnet]

Couldn’t get bonus points on every fight which is why they’re not consistent, mostly because I would get fights where I had no choice but to use a Support to not die

[kindred seal]

That's gonna happen, huh? Like, is it worth it to try and keep the same units for as many battles as possible as long as you only lose the role bonus for one or two?

[static arch]

Once I committed to cake for NC Blue due to difficulty of BR, that is my excuse to just cake all MFs before any others

[reef magnet]

I’m debating caking NCCalem for use in Tech fights, I already caked Penny for Strike ones, plus I’ll be using her once I get SSGladion anyway.

[tiny pulsar]

well done !!

[limpid ocean]

what EX role SS Gladion gets?

[reef magnet]

Sprint

Will be very useful

[limpid ocean]

Ah

Then I'll cake him immediatly

I have no sprint unit for rally

[reef magnet]

Him getting MPR on sync for his Buddy move will be extremely useful if you use him for multiple fights

[reef magnet]

We get Riley this month as well which will help

[limpid ocean]

an ideal team for SS Gladion what would that be?

[static arch]

If you have the time to preplan the run, (though that requires lens scope too) usually switching as often as possible is the optimal point plqy

You can't preplan BR teams though haha, unless you are asking for other strike/sprint pairs

[reef magnet]

Outside of BR? SS Wally or SS Mina and Penny. In BR you have to wing it.

[kindred seal]

Just thinking about those sprint+ field rounds. Sure, let me just throw away all my limited units in one run for them to ask for it again in two rounds

[fresh holly]

Also with only 5 options for the game to choose. You are going to be seeing sprint or field or both quite often

[reef magnet]

Yeah

Rip that person last night who got Field+Sprint for the UB fight

[static arch]

I'm trying to prioritize cakes for MFs with sprint or field
due to this

[reef magnet]

Those of us who skipped Rosa are definitely gonna struggle more

[fresh holly]

it's only a 30% chance to not roll sprint or field at all

[reef magnet]

I didn’t even get any Lucky Rounds last night

[stark dawn]

https://pastebin.com/0m23n184

[static arch]

As interesting as this mode is, planning is more complex than LG even...I will get burnout

[stark dawn]

did you guys know about this

role bonus aren't random

[tame forge]

Explain

[zealous plover]

This Battle Rally is hard but honestly I'm actually into it.

[stark dawn]

they're one of these layouts

[glass patrol]

Peekuo

[zealous plover]

I'm going to miss the battle villa rewards though

[static arch]

Oh this is the 8-3-3-3-3 or 4-4-r-4-4 I saw discussion on

[reef magnet]

The what

[glass patrol]

I want to battle villa more

[fresh holly]

O_O it's not even random hah

[glass patrol]

But I cannot

Aaaaaaaaaaa

[stark dawn]

If you have strike + tech area 1, then you have one of these 2

for example

[static arch]

The roles for the BR levels are a set pattern. Either you end with 4 required for all 5 roles, or 8 required for 1 role and 3 for each of the rest

[stark dawn]

and by area 2 you know which set you have

[mild notch]

oh wow

[glass patrol]

Oh it’s set roles?

[static arch]

So if you are stuck with 8 for field or sprint it is a terrible run

[reef magnet]

Interesting

[hallow bolt]

Very interesting

[glass patrol]

Do we have this binned

Pinned

[tame forge]

Oh yeah

[reef magnet]

🅱️inned

[tame forge]

I recognize set 22

I got that one once

[fresh holly]

This paste bin is wild - I can't believe it's not random

[reef magnet]

Tbh I’d rather know my opponents than my role sets

[tame forge]

It's good to manage your resources

[fresh holly]

for rounds 1-6 this is very important

[tame forge]

Should be pinned imo

[fresh holly]

Cause you can one monster it

[stark dawn]

@fleet plaza adding this to your pin somewhere would be so helpful lol

[fleet plaza]

looking

[fresh holly]

===== Set 25 =====

1. Sprint + Support
2. Sprint + Field
3. Sprint + Strike
4. Support + Tech
5. Sprint + Support
6. Sprint + Field

run 2 sprint supports profit

[fleet plaza]

wow it's full sets?

[stark dawn]

yeah

all role possibilities

[fleet plaza]

so you're saying

[stark dawn]

by round 2 you can know which set you're on

[fleet plaza]

someone actively programmed the option to get screwed that much by sprint/field

[stark dawn]

and prepare your whole run

[fresh holly]

I know how I got the 9250 run now

Set 25 is busted if you start 2.0

[fleet plaza]

thanks for the share i'll add it

[tame forge]

Thank you mael and dreamy

[limpid ocean]

wait, what is that "Set" part

[fleet plaza]

all 10 rounds are pre-determined

like packages

once you get to round 2 you can figure out which

in fact i think Runner is considering making a command to tell you which set you are in so you can pre-plan

i stg if anyone ever again buys the scope like it wasn't useless before this already

[hallow bolt]

Yo I don’t have to buy the scope anymore

[kindred seal]

Finally, Paulo's time to shine!

[limpid ocean]

Oh, I think I understand, after I see which bonus role I get in stage 2, I can check the pastebin for the set

and based on that I can pre plan, right?

[fleet plaza]

correct

[mild notch]

Man set 25 really is a nightmare

[rustic token]

shud i save my 2 perm battle rally tickets or umm spend them

[flint shell]

Another 9k

[reef magnet]

Nick must be stopped

[flint shell]

I wanted higher but got hit with Argenta

Easy af extreme battle btw

Didn’t even need to remove the psychic terrain

[limpid ocean]

doesn't she use Rain?

with Suicune

[flint shell]

Yes

She sets rain on entry and at 50%

[reef magnet]

Where’d the PT come from then

[plush anchor]

No apple cup

[stark dawn]

slowbro

[limpid ocean]

Did you stack the Region/Move upgrade bonus?

[tame forge]

The region upgrade is 100 points

[reef magnet]

Are you mixing up Argenta with Lorelei?

[plush anchor]

I already bookmarked it and planned to save them the moment i knew they were a set

[tame forge]

Must have bought an atk upgrade or something

[plush anchor]

No, they didn't buy regions, they used a total of 50 pts

[reef magnet]

Maybe the free bonus and either a type damage bonus or a Crit buff cause those cost 50

[flint shell]

I literally used my starting upgrade (Villan) then only bought an upgrade for Rebuff

[glass patrol]

Crit bonus is cracked

So is sync move

[flint shell]

I don’t believe in get out of jail free cards

We brave UB’s in this house

[reef magnet]

Villain is a theme you can get?

[plush anchor]

You did Very hard or just hard?

[flint shell]

Very Hard

[plush anchor]

Ouf

[reef magnet]

When will it be my time to shine

[flint shell]

NC Blue works wonders

Then Adaman and Maxie did their things

Maxie****

[glass patrol]

Yeah with decent units and any boosts

[plush anchor]

Bigger ouf if it was archie

[glass patrol]

It’s pretty easy

[flint shell]

Maxie’s job was sit there and hit solar beam (it worked)

[reef magnet]

Taiyo gonna get you for mixing them up

[summer ingot]

First run, not half bad.

[fathom yacht]

Yeah that’s the problem with Apple cup, you could do Hard with 3 on role units for 500, so to justify Apple Cup you need 5 roles on very hard for 1050

[fathom yacht]

Good start

7850 is the golden number to aim for on average

[summer ingot]

Lack of field and sprint pairs hurt the score a little

[fathom yacht]

If you get 7850 every time you’ll get all the coins and 5* powerups

In theory if the timing of the passes works out

[stray ravine]

if you care about the PUs, I don't

[fathom yacht]

But you also missed yesterday’s set as well so you should be fine

I need powerups so badly that i’ve considered using my daily tickets on them

Dead serious

[stray ravine]

try-harding is expensive huh

[dry ice]

i have 2 extra passes that I can ue, but imma save them for when I have a sht run

[summer ingot]

Does the pass refresh daily? I didn't play yesterday and I still have 4 left

[stray ravine]

no

[fathom yacht]

Weekly

[summer ingot]

5 a week is a lotta passes

[fathom yacht]

No

1 a week

[stray ravine]

there are 2 weekly missions giving 1 pass and 1 cake coin voucher, and 300 gems for completing them

[summer ingot]

Oh, 1. So more like csmm. Ok

[fathom yacht]

You get 4 or 5 every month depending on the month

[static arch]

Do we have a link to every shop option too? There is a +100% stats if critical hitting or what?

[glass patrol]

Idk

I just know from my runs

[flint shell]

https://www.tumblr.com/absolutelypm/740959523239510017/battle-rally-2410-cost-price-and-des-item?source=share

[static arch]

Is there an icon for what item is discounted each round. I often don't notice there being one

[flint shell]

Yeah

[fathom yacht]

Pizza

[flint shell]

The sale of all time

[jovial furnace]

Wow if the sets have only 25 layout then buying scope is unnecessary