#Battle Rally
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Don’t mess with Clay LMAO
Did better on my second run but I think I can push myself even more
So uh I prob shouldnt have exchanged for the
first
I need 7.5k in 3 runs to get all the vouchers
If I need help later clearing anything can I come here?
For the life of me I can’t figure out what Suicune’s counter is ugh
I'm only going to have like 4 hours to clear this 3 times to get all the cakes.
I tried SS Leaf and RoSCa and nothing
Adaman and ss ace I think
That explains it lol
There’s no limit on the amount of sync pairs we use right?
Yes
Can SS Morty/NC Leaf/SS Acerola even beat Very Hard Thorton?
So buy stuff starting at stage 6?
Or do I need to have dual DPS?
How many buff do you have ?
Or do you have any buff at all ?
I have my defensive stats nearly maxed out and Thorton has maxed offensive debuffs
2nd sync actually kills my team even without crit
I think they mean the base stats multiplier
No, i mean Battle Rally buff
The really pts.?
The thing that you spent pts to buff your pair
Yeah, the rally points, I have 6450
Upgrade?
None

You need the upgrade
Then Gl
Then I guess I'll get Crit: Power Up
Bc Thoron in Rally is stronger than UB
VH is twice as strong yeah
literally double the usual stats
Hard is 1,5 times
I noticed, my NC Leaf only did 70k-80k damage on Thorton
you can still make it up with Apple Cup tho
On her 1st sync
I think I'd rather be cheap and use the Crit: Power Up
no you need bulk to tank
Try and stack a few 50 point items along the way so you don’t need to use apple cup
or at least use an unit with theme skill boosted
Crit: Power Up is 50 pts. and boosts critical damage by 100%
Like having CS10 for your team
when I have time to fully minmax this thing, then I'll consider turning on my braincells and not buying apple cup
but right now i'm speedrunning the shop that expires next reset
so apple cup here we go
100% crit damage boost is equal to CS10 right?
Idk if ill be able to get all the vouchers, I prob shouldnt have gone for the PUs first 
Can I come back later for help to clear this quickly?
Not like I rlly have anyone to cake rn but
Everyone's stages and boosts are randomized. So what you have available will be different from others.
Your highest point ?
Did u do very hard or just normal?
I think for my other 3 runs I might try very hard early on and do normal on later stages
I just need help building teams and which are able to clear it. I don't want to use my good stuff to soon and I'm not sure when to buy boosts.
Damn, that Crit: Power Up is something else, literally doubled my damage
felt like I was god
Game please STOP asking for supports 
so this is what 1000 strength high score feels like except we're the opponents now
Support boosted sucks
that's a rare plea
Easy
I don't mind support boosts
Apple Cup is like legal crack
But at least it’s not field and sprint
Especially with Sprint I dont have that 
is apple cup always available for area 10 or is it luck based?
Support Sprint is worse because I have 0 sprint
Always area 10
Bad i use arena 1 one unit
yeah being asked for sprint sucks
I got 4k points in 3rd run
So any new information popped up when I woke up? I know about the palmer, and lucy having a UB now
If you have, what did you say, 280 pairs? Then you should be fine to use them whenever, pretty much, unless most of them aren't raised. At most, you'll need 30 good units. But yes, I'm sure there will be people around to help you when you're ready to do it.
crit immunity is interesting
Yeah of those only about 60 are ex but I have enough to dozens more I just never ex until it's needed.
Some of these boosts are way too good
Ah. I have 192 EXs lol. So I mostly didn't bother to save anyone 
Nobody is caked though
Now's a good time to start using your cakes on meta units like Blue/Zapdos, since you get an extra multiplier if your unit fulfills both roles
Caked only gives you a little more options when it comes to boosts
If you use Blue/Zapdos on a Support/Strike stage, you get a 2.0x multiplier instead of 1.5x
^
Ok, Crit: Power Up is very strong, but my damage still isn't enough to defeat Thorton

in my experience they loved doing sprint and support
Rosa/Meloetta ftw
Infinite pmun/smun and +2 boosts
Tbf, she's crazy almost anywhere lol
Another great one is Red/Venusaur. So good, since Field is a really common one, and he's just very self sufficient
I'm suddenly really glad i have rei
Did you run into Palmer on stage 10?
Anyone with stuff on entry is nice
actually i already was glad i had him but maybe this is the excuse i need to 3/5 him XD
Yeah, he's been great for me whenever I need a fighting unit
I just used NC Hop for Palmer, though
are the pairs unavailable as soon as you swap them, or when you finish the next battle?
gotta love the strat of bringing fodder potion pairs to keep the bonus pair alive
When you finish the next battle
Finish the next
since aaron is like. the only universally useful bug unit
I can't really replace SS Acerola if I'm going for full bonus right?
potionchu strike role coming in clutch XD
What is this point conversion multiplier
Oh I'll do that then! I have all master fairs except Steven.
Oh
My assumption was that they'll have bonus sync pairs in the future, where you get like a 1.2x multiplier for the whole run if you use them at any point. Didn't know you got a lower multiplier for not finishing lol
This is stage 1 but this isn't overkill right? It's enough for lots of points?
It's water weak
As long as you win
what's your bonus though
Points matter more than weakness
Just a reminder, shop resets in a few hours.
Bonus type?
You can get around weakness
Doesn't it not reset till reset?
What is a bonus type?
Bonus role
Yea, less than a day.
Yeah, we've got like 16-ish hours left
ig "few hours" means "today'
I'm enjoying the mode but it does take a long time to run through
The bonus that gives all buffs like def, atk, sp atk, sp def.
top of the menu/area list screen
Like fairy bonus. Having 1 fairy unit boost all those stats
Oh that doesn’t matter as much as the points
It matters for making the stages clearable when you're using subpar teams lol
This?
well marlons got it
at least you got gym leader and not elite 4
I got MC it was amazing
Game gave me fire electric and poison my first 3 runs
Isnt Guard Choco insane?
Then elite 4
So I should be good or should I swap for something else?
The issue with both Gym Leaders and Elite 4 is that basically all of them released before Sprint/Field was a thing. So you have to forgo a 1.5x multiplier if you need the bonus stats on certain stages
Try it out, Ariel. There's no penalty for losing, even if you don't quit until all of your pairs are dead.
The bonus also still counts if someone dies, although you obviously can't use them for the next stage
Oof
For some reason some of my stages were harder than area 10
Area 10 has been the hardest for me outside of my first run
I don't even remember what my stage 10 was for the first run
I remember the ones since then
Oh that's good to know. I have to go to work now so I'll give it a whirl later. I'm not confident I can do 3 runs of this in 2-4 hours....today's the worst day for this to start. 😞
Does apple cup always appear at area 10?
Yes
Why would you need to do it in 2 hours? You have 16 hours left
Work, then I have aqua therapy. So I'm not home for another 10 hours.
I can do Thorton without Apple Cup, it's so close 
Just burn him hotter
I'll give a whirl I just want some cakes.
Does anyone know if area 10 can be replaced with the lucky area? Or if we know for sure it’s immune
Who do you want ?
Darach - Darach - Darach
I got one on area 9 so was just curious


The darachining
Same lol
Ah yes my favorite area bonuses
Can Darach on Very Hard be done without SS Diantha?
Yes
I didn't use her
Hmmmm
I got him once but don’t remember who I used
Same. I just know she wasn't who I used 
I think I got him Annabel and then Lucy twice

Thanks everyone
I probably used Rosa/Red, since I don't have any Sprint/Field pairs to necessitate switching them out.
It’d be really nice if more pairs had a role
Stacking SE buff is cheap and well ….effective 
field + sprint should be ilegal
So you have come to true pain
I totally forgot that my stage has Support + Sprint roles and I can still use my NC Rosa
i got that on stage 10 
my condolences
What’s worse field + sprint or normal boost
i mean u have victor to use as a field unit
Probably normal boost, because you're stuck with it for the whole run lol
Even though there are a few decent normal units, it's still not really fun to deal with
Does Opp Interference: S-Moves Up affected by rebuff?
I assume no, but haven't had an opportunity to test it
Since it specifies interference, I would highly doubt it
Yeah, rebuff is usually considered its own category
Don't think it's ever activated anything else
interference is just flinch, confusion, trap
Debuff is a status effect but not an interference
so it works on uxie etc but not here
Hmmm, I could have sworn it didn't work when I tried using it on Uxie
No, rebuff is a status change but not interference
But I could be misremembering
SE might destroy me if it's something like rock
im planning to get units to cover some types, but nothing that interests me comes up
Pathetic 
9+ sync buffs
yeah like 
Tbf, it was tough with poison boost
Do they stack each successful attack?
how do u even get to 9 sync buffs
Rosa’s sync doesn’t do much damage
it was the buff you buy from shop, yeah they stack for the whole battle
Nice
Cleared the shop 
even the
too? damn
I had about 2.5k points left after getting the cake tickets and PUs
you only need 6.8k/run to clear the important items
I hate this bonus 
Have fun
im going to save up some points over the next month if possible in case im busy once or twice
try this lmao
stage 10
weakness feels largely irrelevant at area 1
i don't buy cup

Still have 1 ticket
They could have totally put maintenance on last Thursday and started this event on friday
Instead I have to rush it in 1 day

never done UB before, should i just buy the cup?
they want us to rush the event shop lol
"normal mode" ub is still just the ub right
makes your life a whole lot easier
and since you buy the cup, just do very hard
it trivializes everything
Cup is the win button
just know the general gimmick
with cup you can auto it with strong comp 
Did u do all stages at very hard? I got 5600 and 5900 so I need to get 7.5k per run for the vouchers 

don't buy too many stuff from shop
I havent bought anything from shop except on my 2nd run I bought the item that lets u see all the stages
did you change team after every stage, try to get all the multiplier
Not sure how I'll do Thorton with SS Morty/NC Leaf/NC Rosa
Is cup only at stage 10?
Rosa is x2 bonus for me
2nd run yeah I tried to
But I think I didnt change some out because I wanted to use them later, so ig I have to choose more carefully
just get all the cake coins ticket for now, don't worry if you can't get PU, it's the 1st day after all and close to reset
it seems so

If a unit dies still count as bonus reward?
ok yup the cup is a win button
i mean, i beat it, but like.... that stage was ridiculous
Yes
As long as they’re on the team and you win
oh god, bug weak Hau
is there no boost if u have type advantage in the stage?
not bad for a first run
Yes bc I did another run now but got extremely unlucky with the role boost
Only very hard
Could’ve just been bad bonuses
However, done for today waiting for tomorrow to exchange 🥰
Got a very good boost in the UB
Ok, NC Rosa's Relic Song is pissing me off so badly
field + sprint
you don't need the boost to get a good score
had fighting boost 1st run and barely used it
Ok, Elaine is a godsend in this event
Me getting field + support in the last one twice:

The only field + supp unit we have so far is Variety thorton
One question - This mode is a weekly thing, right? I don't need to rush it on daily basis?
well you need to rush it today 
if you get the lucky stage would it be worth wiping your team to get full bonus multipliers ? 🤔
Maybe going team for team on this isn’t necessarily smart
what's that lucky stage everyone's talking about
Seems like a myth
its a stage with 600 rally points over 300
there's a stage that's basically Bonanza and gives 600 points
oh lol
Oh
I've not seen it myself but i saw it on the stream
"field + sprint" 
I got it once in 2 attempts so lower than 20%, but not enough so to raise concerns in my eyes
So is the battle rally a permanent thing that updates weekly or???
Random
Normally, it’s a weekly clear with the pass you get once a week. But since it’s debuting on the last day of this month, there is a unique opportunity to use your multiple debuting passes to acquire the monthly exchange reward.
Each Roll Cake Coin Voucher can be exchanged for one cake coin, so you can acquire a whole Role cake today.
To acquire these 20x Vouchers today, use your battle rally passes to reach a minimum of 4800 pts per clear (since we have 5 total rally passes available)
You don't have to worry about spending the rally passes, you get a pass 1x weekly.
TL;DR do multiple rallies today to get 24,000 rally medals and grab yourself a 20x Role Cake Coins before next RESET
Weekly ticket but do everything today because reset
they couldn't have released it even just yesterday 
you should play rally 5 times
NOW

Thanks for the tips
This is why you need to get a Sprint: #1053291896778264597 message

wait you also bought the 5star power ups? 😮
Dayum
4 run never got it lol
So.. to get 20 vouchers and 20pu we have to clear 8500 weekly
Sound like a lot
Actually 3, you can keep 2 tickets 
So if you get field + sprint, and you don't own any, your score is mutliplied by 0?
i mean the 5* power ups are nice but i wouldnt wanna count on getting them every month
i think?
5 TIMES
NOW
Do medals transfer over to the next week? I assume so
it's multiplied by 1+(0.5)*(amount of matching roles)
they better

Can we soft reset and change team? 
sorta? once you start the battle with any team you can not choose sync pairs you just swapped out but you may rechoose new ones at the cost of losing any further pairs you swap out
as in not complete a battle ? yes
You can quit a area and change but full reset no
like in lg
Unless you retire
Ye exactly meant that
Like if i fucked up my team or missclicked and want to change, just quit and rebuild again (already used pairs aside ye)
I don't believe the "misclicked" pairs can be used later on though
as long as you don't win it's fine
they can
units are locked only if you win with them
oh neat, I ran into the change in my last run but didn't think about going back and trying to reuse SSA Cynthia once I took her off the team
Units are locked only if you don't use them consecutively
oh jesus, I'm dealing with Round 6 with Ice weak cyntha battle challenge.
not CS, she has sandstorm, with Sand evasion
can't, they want Strike/Field

Uhhh so it's a cake economy based, use cake to buy cake and get extra cake
I have only ssRoxie 
yes
yeah, there are 3 weak togepis
I hate it here
Is anything worth buying from the rally exchange shop besides the roll coins and 5 star pus?
nah.
gauge where
Gauge Eusine existing
Rip, guess Ill just dump my 1.1k I still have in a feather type I dont own
I'm not using Archie to attack, i just need rain
Archie meat shield
Archie Support Roll

Field/Support is so annoying
you would think they would take the hint when u used no sprint units on the previous stage
We all gotta suffer at some point
now imagine if we got this and field and sprint weren’t a thing
lmfao
i think she takes reduced damage from neutral moves
do I need NC red for any Ultimate battles?
it's fire, water, rock, grass, fighting and ground right?
no ice weak?
yes
I have an Apple Cup
Did this channel use to be battle villa?
Oh easy then
Oh and to clarify
apples make the stages free
the VH has double stats than usual
yes
Very Hard is double the stats
Damn
Had to take Apple cup for the last battle💀
really 
Good to know
Noice, 100 more points than I had
How are you guys maximising points?
ex roles
Bonus
and buying no item
i ummm accidentally wasted 1 ticket cuz i was figuring out the controls and thought retire was resetting my progress 😔
Ofc that doesn’t mean you won’t have areas with shit bonus
Not bad
3.8k in items
Speaking points of I still haven’t seen a bonus stage yet
WHERE ARE MY TOGEPI STAGES
I thought it wouldn't matter
Realized like right now
of course it does they tell you lol
Well you’re not gonna know what the areas are like
Yeah they warned you haha
Gotta balance purchase with rewards
And 4+ eva on entry
that's literally useless on UB stages
So uh
I tried Apple Cup on my 1st Battle Rally run
And that was the easiest fight ever
yeah apple's broken
The maximum amount of points we can get per round is 1200 points right?
Not counting Togepi stages
I had some stat boosts already from Kanto Boost items too, so Thorton didn't stand a chance
Also yeah Apple Cup is a free win ticket haha
I had to use NC red on that stage, ridiculous
If you screwed up and can’t leave because of poor planning
Steel weak Lance 
Is there any way for me to see the passives of the enemies without going into the battle? Like I saw that my current one with Anabel has her with healthy advantage
I really hate Relic Song so fucking much
Oh my god.
So in theory
500 pts will be spent on the UB
pastebin is still down unfortunately, you can look at maelmc's UB doc pinned in #1009557516369281075
Question
And UBs
If a sync pair dies in battle, do I still get the boost from them?
Yeah still get boosted
Alr cool
But obviously they won’t be around for next round haha
Champion Iris is now a sacrificial lamb
Thanks 🙏
u trying for 7k?
There is a benefit to this mode
HOnestly, at this point, all these battles should be in pomatools ;-;
What has been the most efficient way to get a lot of points? Have multiple of the same role and hope for the best or spread the roles out to have at least 1 of each?
Very nice
Damnit man
I need to use my EXR units smarter haha
I need to use them when they can earn z2 points
I didn't get a lucky stage on floor 7 
this is miserable without items
How much Champion Spirit do we get a month if we do well?
In CS
I wanna see something
No no this will matter
oh god, i hate this now lmao
That’s more than 4 ex’s
And from Rally we get 1 full ex Cake right?
7:1 ratio
To see if it's going to be as easy at least with time
Don't forget the daily for cake coins
Rally gives 20 coin, 30 coins from daily and 6 coins from exchange
So on average 3-4 cakes per month unless I am forgetting another source
I wanna cry

I thought daily tickets are 5 for a coin
does the same item boost stack? like i got 1 free battle facility increase100%, there is another in shop, would it become 200%?
SPRINT FIELD LAST ROUND 
Fucking hell, I hate NC Rosa
Sprint/Field combo last stage 
Yes
30 tickets = 6 coins
@west abyss same as you
Or 5

No 9k for you 
Ay I'm in the same exact position 🤝
8.7k points, last area is sprint/field with gym leader
Is the pts I end with the same I get after it's done?
no
I think I reached the point on my 2nd run where I ss lyra gaming (aka round 8 lol)
you can either get a lucky stage or not. lucky stage give extra points
this is giving me pain
Hmm you're not spending on anything up to stage 8? 
Woah the battle rally item exchange runs out on next reset? That's pretty urgent
NC Rosa is actually AIDS for Thorton
It's a monthly exchange, debuting on Jan 31st. :X
Oh okay. How difficult is it to get 4800 points in a run?
on stage 9.
Gawd damn anabel on very hard again
I got 2 cynthias on my run
now i have Water Weak Bruno. i'm gonna scream
How to increase point conversion multiplier?
Unsure
The 10th battles are ultimate? Are they exactly the same and as ridiculously difficult?
NC Rosa + NC Red kind of breaks this mode lmao
Yes.
And Very Hard is 2x harder
The point is they want you to buy items to make it easier
If you spend points for boosts I think you can become super buffed
With just like 3-4 items I swept a Very Hard Anabel like it was nothing
is 8750 the max you can get?
Nah I saw someone get above 9k
I need to get 7375 in 2 runs, I can not afford items 
My boosts on the last battle sucked otherwise I could have gotten more
That’s not that difficult even with items
Only buy them if they are 50 points
The rebuff upgrade is my best friend
Same with the 100% more sync damage
12,000, which would require matching all roles + ex in every stage.
This is my best attempt so far
so uh yeah
Do we have a good strategy for ensuring 5kish?
I think you may want to commit an unit you your teams just to fulfill the bonus items
I did all very hard for like the first 7 stages, then hard for 8 and 9 and then normal for 10
What's the general strategy for this new mode? Teams carry over so maybe need to use minimal MP like BV?
I think u want to change ur team like every round I think, but some u may be able to re use
I think you can use every unit you own, but once you swap out an unit,that unit is gone
only if you intend to use a certain unit multiple runs in a row
do the continuous item effects stack? like can i buy 2 of the "kalos upgrades" to get a 200% boost?
It's been all just CS stages 
I think you can also do 10 different teams and go full mp
Yes, but it depends on which one it give up
Don't know if there's a malus for swapping teams
Like my previous run, it decided to give me 2 Sprint/Field combo, and some bullshit like Sup/Field

Yes, they stack.
oh sick
How good is the limited see-all scope? Worth it?
Time for dena to never pump out anymore sprint and field units or ex role
im running a rats team and i was offered the paralysis power up effect so im just gonna go crazy on that
I guess you can either go BV tactics and save mp with a strong team or go more CS, and use different teams each time
You can also commit an unit, and swap the other 2
Probably you will want to stick with an unit that enables your boosts
Done. It was so much fun
I basically kept my NC Nate for a whole run because of the dragon and the role boosts
This is agonizing
Does the see-all-scope reveal all 10 areas and thus let you plan the whole run?
It should be the point

Sadness intensifies
pin this
dont let Pykuo see this
Wonder if someone will get it three times in a run
Nc Nate + NC Rosa 7ex has you covered for that
gonna try AOE sleep build for NC rosa
I wonder if you give someone a cake without EXing them if it counts as both roles? I assume it would
Good thing about NC Rosa is that she isn't much mp dependant
Yes, it still counts

My V Elio doesn’t EX but it still count sup cake
I'm losing my mind over Thorton
I love how SS Steven is prob the best unit for this mode
he does everything without using MP
I also never got the togepi stage
And I did 5x 10 battles
I got 2 
Im out of trials for today 
support field round 10 
Ive gotten it in all 3 rounds
But at least I got all the stuff I wanted, and caked 4 units 
I thought u were supposed to get it in one of them
guess I just got lucky
i think i'll just buy the apple on round 10 every time lol
Inb4 I dont get it on my last 2 attempts 
How many Rally Medal you have left ?
What the apple do?
makes you win
I have 19k after 20 Cake vouchers
Is this mode limited? I don't want to waste my items figuring it out
Same tbh
You need battle passes to play so is technically limited
So like an 8.2k average score each time assuming no shop shenanigans
zone timing is really tight 
15.400
I scoped all the areas and there aren't any dragon-weak very hard battle. Is it safe to use zerena here to max out the striker+support bonus?
Using Morty sure isn’t worth it
jeez. D:
You shouldn’t look at Weakness
Alright I'm starting. Am I supposed to buy the scope?
that looks great 😮
Stats raises are cleared between battles I presume, like villa?
not really useful tbh 
youre going to swap most of the time
hmmm. I started with Galar boost, I can buy a second one it looks like
unless its back to back stage
Stacking feels like it's a powerful tactic
Oh, why?
stage 10 usually is the real gate and you can cheat with 500 apple cup
stacking is a powerful tactic and a needed one for people with a less invested roster
Role bonus is more important here 
I do have a less invested roster
and still got way more than the average needed points (which is 4800)
Alright lets see how far Galar gets me
Does the upgrade stick for all 10 battles?
there are permanent buffs and one time only
every item that doesn't specify in red in the description that it's only for one battle, otherwise stacks
hmm and Leon theoretically has infinite mpr
and it applies to the whole team as long as a single pair matches
I think I've got a good hand here
bear in mind you want to match the role bonus in priority for points
With all 3 pairs?
not necessarily since the bonus loses out the more you have
1.5x then .5 and .5 unless you have ex role which counts for 2x and 1x
How much is the apple cup
500 points
This should’ve been 3 roles Dena pls 
Well sprint and support, so I guess I go three supports?
you can
one of which is galar
Anything that doesn't say "This item's effect will only be active for the next battle" is permanent for the run, right?
Wait does move: Stats up apply to each battle?
Yes
All the food items are 1 time use
Stat debuffing every time feels like it sounds good but in practice wouldn't do much
you can just get away with stacking the type/theme skill stat boost
So just do the very hard stages right?
100% per stack is massive
The math is a bit confusing here. Looks like multiplicative but is actually additive
well i'll jsut stack galar then and do some battles?
The SE item is cheap and easy but you don’t get it everytime 
my types are fairy water and rock, not sure how often I will be able to use two of those
it's like events, only one is counted for 2x here then it's 1x and 0.5x
only one pair gives you the max bonus
oh wait, the three types are different. Rock is the boost for all pairs.
Sync Buff item must be the best 
ok the lucky stage actually exists
How many do you need to empty the store? 
it must be exceedingly rare because i didn't get it in my 4 runs
Guess I need to do 3 more runs
Stupid question but are the "Ultimate Battles" like Thornton and whatever?
For Area 10?
yes
the battle facility foes
Extremely tanky final boss
Bruhh those are so hard tho lol
In this you have Apple
Bless, thank you
and i'm not saying free win as an hyperbole
i legit think auto could win with apple cup
Is it worth it to do apple cup and very hard or does hard without apple cup give more
Do you get the same points in each battle, or should you keep potentially useful units in your hand for later battles?
Final stage is tough. 💀
Sweet..so I don't need to save C. Serena until the final battle or something silly like that
apple cup very hard id say considering you can stack the bonuses for max points so youll make it back
buy the apple cup in the shop
Is the apple cup rare?
FUCKING FINALLY 
Yea i used apple cup. Is it doable without it 😂?
Oh, so a paid win button for battle 10?
VH stages all give 300 points base, multiplied by your bonuses from matching the roles
yes
Do I spend an attempt if I reset?
alright, so go all out from start then thanks
Y'all using Apple Cup, meanwhile I cleared it with only having +100% crit damage
It’s doable just a lot harder
3 support team go
I did my first 2 runs I think without it
Well my stage had poison….
I cleared with Acerola + Red but it's a looooog match 
Ok, i got to stage 10 with NO items
Holy fuck, KO-ed allies will make their bonus 0x
i ain't got the luxury of time to bother with a boosted UB with no items lol but have fun
Damn, not even passive stack?
and the UB i'm facing is....
My Rosa was KO-ed and only got 3x bonus 
OH GOD IT'S PALMER
Instead of 5x
Its impossible to whittle down cuz of poison
WHAT DOES PALMER DO!?
what? really?
this is not true
again, the math is not additive here
Someone help, what does Palmer do 
only a single pair gives the max bonus regardless if they're KO'd or not, it works like events
you looked at it wrong probably
Kill him fast or he will kill you
Oh my 10th VH battle is Palmer too. What he do?
max point you can get in total is 1200 and that's with full ex roles matching
Palmer is hell
he gets +2 crit at start and will chain sync then max move aoe back to back
I MIGHT NEED TO 3/5 Rei 
SS Morty is 1.5, i assume NC Leaf or NC Rosa is 2, then other is 1.5. So x3 is right

OK YEA, 3/5ing Rei. I don't have NC Hop
NC Leaf is only 1.5
Uhhh, what? I thought it was 1 + (2-1) + (2-1) + (1.5-1) = 3.5
NC Leaf OR NC Rosa
I meant 1 of them get x2
Is using Kris with feraligatr bad on stage 1?
it depends how the roles are matched, 2x is only if your pair matches both with exrole
if it's supp/sprint then NC Rosa make 2x, otherwise it's 1.5x
NC Rosa is x2
max you can get is 300 * 4 assuming every pair matches both roles
uh
wait no
*4
edited
And when should I purchase boosts? Please ping me
No, max per area is 1k2
yes, i'm tired but edited it instantly
been a lot of questions today for this mode on top of having to actually get the cake
gonna stream Palmer's battle.
praise be
And when should I purchase boosts? Please ping me
difficulty x ( base x {pair1 + pair2 + pair3})
It's like this I believe.
300 vh / 200 h / 100 n
base is always 1.
Each pair can either be
- 0 (no matching roles)
- 0.5 (one matching role)
- 1 (both matching roles)
if the boost you got for free at the very start is easy to match (like a type or good theme skill)
buy copies of it for every run until area 6 or so, or another one that is more appropriate
do it 5 times for convenience and easy time, then at area 10 buy the apple cup
and obviously when teambuilding match at least one single pair to that boost you're stacking
Hmmm 1050 points first battle, that seems a good start if I need 480 per battle
it is
i average on 750 per battle personally just to get it out of the way
and it's already overkill
Once you clear a round of rally, you can reuse the units you've used right?
Does anyone remember Roark fall 2023 gimmick?
well battle 2 is sprint and field so guess who is not getting points
Hit very hard
Honestly, fuck NC Rosa on Area 10 where Sup/Spr is needed
So you matched the roles 4 times, right? What was the roles bonus for that battle?
Sprint and Support
and both Leaf and Rosa were Role caked I presume?
Yeah
don't fuck with Palmer
Death and death
Loveless
300 x (1 + {0.5 + 0.5 + 1}) = 900.
300 x (1 + 2) = 900
300 x (3) = 900
So yeah, it makes sense.
palmer is almost guaranteed fail if you don’t get tech tbh 
maybe op items can help but still hard to do it
Imagine Sup/Field combo on that stage
for 100 points

let me tell you about my friend MPizza

god mode
dev pov
Or 50 points for 100% extra crit damage
If you pick that early
Should I buy the see all scope pretty much every time?
Not really
Should I not buy it then? It's pretty expensive
I mean, the only time I used it was in Area 10
with enough units you should be able to do it as you go, the first battles can use weak pairs anyway too
team-building the entire run is a lot of effort anyway, it's kind of easier to plan on the fly imo?
Is there a verdict on which items are worth buying?
Yeah for context I'm a veteran player
Apple Cup if you're really desperate
Bc that thing isn’t always appear

Have you ran into it yet?
Not in last stage
#1009564564821639379 message
But some run i didnt see it single time
Really? Where would you rank Crit: Power Up?
Thanks!
Rank OP

Just below Cheat Code
So it's #2 then
The boost I got was gym leader which I think is good? So just get copies of that? I didn't realize that would stack.
Crit: Power Up will be OP if the roles are Strike/Tech/Field
Gym Leader is a good boost
I guess they’ll do event with higher conversion multiplier
Presumable for events where points are increased.
Should I even try going for another run? It's so damn late and I still have school later
I only got 6 coin roll exchange
I guess the thing to do is to stock up on 5 rally tickets until an event happens huh. Unless a monthly reset is imminent
Do you exchange all coin roll ?
Which it is right now haha
Just get all the coins
Who?

Get the role cake coin vouchers, all 20 of them. The rest is up to you.
Cake coin Vouchers
As I said, I only exchanged 6 so far
You should try getting 20
Eh, I'm too lazy, also I'll attempt to get all of the cake coin vouchers after my quarter is over (which is next week)
It resets Monthly
Yeah
Ok, it up to you 
I mean, it'll always be available going forward. It's just a unique opprotunity to get a whole role cake since it debuted today.
I just wished rally came at a more opportune time
If you have time, try and get it done. Otherwise don't feel bad, it's going to be a weekly occurence with 30 days of breathing room to get the rewards.
Does the bonus role changes every stage?
If you can do it
What do you mean?
I see
to get 24k you don't need to be super strict and not buy the bonuses, so you can make clearing it significantly easier buy stacking the effects
@muted sparrow are you also getting the 20 5* from the shop today?
I still don’t know
PUs are good for more EXs. Which feeds into HSE.
#1147355613198815352 message here are the feathers
Say, currently i have support n strike bonus. Using NC Blue EXR, i’ll get both. Then if the next stage i change NC Blue, i cannot use him again for the rest of the run?
You can
I should calculate how many points we can farm monthly to secure all the cake tickets
But I guess those 20 5* won’t hurt 
I wonder what will be the budget clear to get all the important rewards
I thought you couldn't?
you cant
I dont know if that will hurt actually
if you change someone you cleared with you cant change back to them
I can do 8k regularly
Oh wait, I misread it
It literally warns you. Saying if you remove from the line-up they're gone.

We get 2 trials per day?
1 try per week
NC Rosa EBE 
weekly login*
24k for cake roll vouchers
Ah okay. If we fail a stage, can we reattempt using the same pair?
Now tech Rolex supports have real purpose outside LG minmaxing 
yes
10k for 5 start powerup vouchers
Also yeah lol
if you quit before stage ends
otherwise they're KO'd and unusable afaik
Ah okay.
they only perma die if you win
8k5 regularly should be enough right ?
Can we heal them afterwards?

yes
24k total points for the cake before monthly reset
Depends on how well you do
its like villa only instead of limiting units per day it limits them by run
You need a minimal average of 4,8k medals per run to buy all the vouchers
you can do 4 times 6k runs it's pretty feasible even with spending 1000 points per run on shop
You can buy HP and MP replenishing items for 300 pts a piece in the rally shop.
Ok fine I can get the 20 5* 
6,800 if you also want the 5 :star powerup
Per stages?
total, per rally
Per run
you cant get 6.8k in a single stage
Oh okay
Assuming of course we get 5 rally tickets a month
8k5 per week will be enough
Err rally passes

starting next week if we only got 1 BP/week
i think they'll give 2/week. 1 per weak is tight to get vouchers + PU for most players, esp if you don't have role cake & large roster
i'd forget the PUs tbh for those
just go for the cake
it's 4.8k per week (except in february)
And generally, since my roster isnt big enough, should i start with the big guns already?
is it better to do very hard mode or hard mode
very hard
Do I need to create 10 teams of 3 units each? Or can I use the same team for 2-3 rounds?
And also, is the difficulty increases per stage, culminating at stage 10 with the UBs?
yes
you can use the same units multiple stages but if you switch one you cant use it again
Okay
Imma try my first run now. Thanks!!
I’d assume, bonus points from the roles are just bonus, and we should not make team solely based on fulfilling that bonus. Yes?
you should go for bonus
So did you guys just lead with poop pairs out of the gate? Or should I lead with ncRosa for easy team buffs?
i used her pretty much the whole run
i led with Cheren and Norman



