#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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I used VHilbert was pretty easy
i'll give it some attempts, thanks for the advice
I didn’t have high end DPS/nuke for Palmer for the LOOOOOOOONGEST time
you will probably need gear to survive sync. Also don't tank with ASS
He earned my undying hatred for that
Unless you don't wanna quad queue
what did you use for palmer @stable storm
he doesn't even require very high end dps
I have used many teams for him
double Lear+ nc rosa
1/5 rei, ss Lear nc rosa
how are your dds like
palmer has the most ub clears other than the fodder 4
I think that's a decent indication of his strength level
I don’t care about other people lol I had the crappiest time Vs Palmer and will forever hate him
pretty much mostly the same as anyone Nita and MR lol
Nemona and Masked for me
that means evelyn is harder than anabel because she has less clears
i can do nita since i got VHilbert from the free ticket but that depends if i want to candy him lol
I didn't hate nita that much compared to how awful mr treated me
MR cleanse is just straight up toxic
if you look outside the doc Evelyn has a bazillion more clears
there's a reason why i still haven't beaten him
nothing more toxic than rebuff clearing
being built around Geeta is so 
he clears rebuff?
mr just became a lot worse for me
nemona does it each sync, it's atrocious
does mr clear rebuff
nope
No
thankfully no
Too much status cleansing (he has like 10 status clears teamwide)
and too aggressive on buffing
while having 4k offenses

WHAT DO YOU MEAN MR HAS MORE ATTACK THAN LIKE ANY OTHER UB
maybe there's one i;m missing
anabel has 5k iirc
but her gimmick is more tame and she doesn't buff offenses like crazy
can I say Leon just cuz that’s the only one I haven’t done
do you have geeta
what did you use for mr
lol
Leon is ass off type
you mean event oak?
meanwhile I'm still waiting for my candies so I can do mr
you could probably do leon
Doesn't ss piers have mpr on et
oh right
and iirc can be gridded for sync
Nita, Nemona, Royal
you’re thinking Roxie
lemme check his grid one minute
choose 2 only
Piers has more control over Poison Zone
nemona masked royale anabel for me
not having NC Blue makes this brutal
why.
since i still havent beat any of them
why does ss piers look worse than I remember
Nemona, Royal
Nita is harder but also more straightforward
anabel is very straightforward tbf
and a lot of her difficultly comes from her being a giant stat block
piers, ASS and volkner could probably do it with a lot of rng
hooray.
i dont have any of the correct move levels to replicate any anabel clears
same for nemona and MR
but MR is the closest for me replicating a clear
Considering VBede can use rain 4 tiems at 1/5 EX even, May is unnecessary
vbede also provides emotional support
need to get all millage from being vairety
he probably doesn't have another good water
If you have a better water damage dealer, you could replace May with it
Iy
he probably doesn't have one
well I do have 5/5 EXR LySS
????
He works
why may then
Bede provides the rain so May isn't needed
that team should only need 2 rain for anabel
could go back and see
dang it I just remembered LySS can handle FF with Burned Down
Anabel should die before you run out of rain charges and uptime
how do you forget lyss...
Because no tai ofc 
Use Riley over Geeta
my brain must not have been working that day
yeah that was much easier LOL
levels
didn’t get any Potion refreshes and Steven tanked a Sun Overheat
how did you forget in the first place
brain
I forgot about Burned Down tbh
Tried zerena and lucas but didn’t do nearly enough damage even with rebuffs
Did you like post two images twice
Did I 
Lol
Sorry on that
Gen pool overall 5/5, don’t have malva, chuck and trevor
Maybe try nc blue/ss lear/anni lillie
2024
I won't lie i think you might be fucked with this setup lol
the battle is heal spam that’s for sure
Hmmm. I'm not sure what UB I hate, actually.
All of them
I know I hate Nita in Rally, but in the UB, well, I haven't started 
Similarly I hate Leon on Rally altho I already finished UB
Ayyyyyyy
Did a Sync Burst grid on Lear, Utility grid on lillie
Only the spaghetti man remained
i just hate most of them
trying a rock comp Dana clear rn to uh, limited success
there's way too much MPR RNG involved for me to actually like it
What’s the team?
NC Silver SS Diantha Arc Steven
feels like i need like 5 Rock Wish MPRs to get anywhere
and thats only mild hyperbole
okay never mind i got it

arc steven just popped off in the end
https://youtu.be/D855xHBwOT8?si=LqNcNLxRHs3vbxX1 video uploaded. Can't say I recommend this clear much
All team related info can be found in the link in the comments
over 200k on LySS B
nice
https://youtu.be/St7lh0OtC9w?si=Ij3fzKgANMyHwTJD
Dislike him but still try using him to clear some of the harder ubs hmmm...
強いか弱いか→強い
評価が高いか低いか→なんとも言えない微妙なライン
一見するといわゆる「ギミックタイプ」に分類されるサポートに見えるが、抵抗ダウンが1度きりなのでケイトやネモの解除に無力・毒付与が2回だけなのでダンデやロイヤルマスクの複数回異常解除に無力と、単体でギミックを解除してキャリーする能力には難しかない性能と言える。
シュウメイ自身はあくまで毒の強化パーツ以上の存在にはなれないので、タイプ関係なくキャリーしまくれるマツリカやヤローのような能力を期待すると非常にガッカリさせられる“罠キャラ”と言えるだろう。
ぶっちゃけ毒編成もオリーヴがいればクリアには十分なので、あくまで「毒編成にバリエーションを持たせたい人向け」と言える。
オリーヴにマンネリを感じたあなたにどうぞ。
・X...
Checking the UB doc at Leon. When does the left side use Condition Shield?
right after the second leon sync
Got Leon down to 17%
trying that Volkner/SS Piers/AS Steven team that was recommended
no Potion refreshes and ran out of luck with Terrain
And that’s every UB done.
so... Imagine if we get a Volo UB with Giratina. Standard UB stuff, but now with an autorevive.
oh gosh no
Fairy-weak, so that 90% of the Fairy DPS units will die to it :)
Hugh but ub
Needed 1 mpr and I think I could've gotten it
that or if my Elaine were 5/5, the extra energy matters for her
Gottem
required some precise flinch luck but
mostly because I had to make awkward grid picks
with 5/5 +10E not an issue
can we remove the pinned message? It's no longer being mantained and just creates confusion for players looking for guides @stone scarab .
what

the Extreme Battles & Other Region Boosted Battles document.
Why?
why what?
Why remove it? It's needed in case people have to use clears from a BC/EBE that is currently rerunning
I have the problem with EBE Doc too
oh I didn't think about reruns. A note saying that its no longer being updated for future runs would still be useful.
We dont update it anymore
Although it is pretty surprising that there's no recorded clears for SS Ethan's EB
it's not updated.
No one update it
and it won't be.
Not bc no one recorded it
Can someone take up the task of updating it?
I can, if someone would like to help me.
It's either Sages or Dark who handle the EBE/BC doc
We can make our own document.
I find it strange that nobody has done anything about it
EBEs are less and less released nowadays compared to their former golden age
When Nita summons sandstorm? Entry and endures or entry and syncs?
Entry and thresholds
Entry and both endures, and as a move from the side Hippowdon after mid is killed
So I cannot use SS acerola
And yeah, left side can infinitely summon it too
You can skip a threshold without replacing sandstorm depending on teammates
There's 2 SS acerola clears in the sheet
One is alongside nc red and the other arc cynthia
Cuz they’re harder now
And as such people don’t like it much, so they release less
I can’t wait til I beat Nita… f!
Yessss
ok I’ll delete the topic and move it
Oh my god, this was the hardest UB so far, took too many tries for my liking
The truth is, Google Sheets isn't exactly a good platform to host all this data. It'd be better suited to the old Game Press site, or Serebii.
Also another issue is time. Time to add in all the boss data, make it look nice with graphics, and then reviewing and approving submissions.
I did try to keep up with it, but I was using personal time that I frankly don't have anymore. I'd love a proposed solution, but right now it just seems to be continue to use google sheets since Gamepress is gone.
Randomly remembered that Arc Duo + SST Red/Oleana teams exist and did Morgan on them to get them to 14.
Arc Duo did already duo Morgan, but adding a 3-rd non-Impervious pair can actually make you weaker on Morgan.
The Oleana clear was real scuffed, but first try, just to get it done quick
So now the 14/15 teams look like this
Copies of piers???
ss hau, nc blue and chase seem like they can't do masked royale?
I have been trying to make a clear on mr with those but I get to 14% then die to post sync 3 Blizzard
so many stopped by dana
What's stopping the arc Cynthia ones?
lack of terrain
the two ubs requiring almost every full ub comp to have all wtz
What happened to game press?
Goated
do I dare
Best of luck
Interesting o.o
miiiiight be doable if wide guard keeps up.
thinking...
seems ok
but i feel nate isn't being explored much
neither fly tanking
or inertia nuking
can I dodge earthquake if I have triple Fly
yeah I can't do much
got Noland down to 35
fly tanking at least works with Lysandre since he can nuke hard enough to make it last
Cinderace is either dead or on life support but Yveltal is about to finish him off
don't have that luxury with Braviary
Wow
yes
Ahh, so that's how you curve her ramp
Ah, rn i did it for fun 
How invested is your Mela
4/5
I planned to keep her at 3/5 for Lg but daily gave me 4 lol

I think her 4/5 tiles helps her a lot in 3vs3
bunni nuke just takes out Thorton
5
would love to awaken
if only bunni awakening wasnt awful
I have 2 5/5 fair techs and bboth awakenings make me sad
The frame-perfect screenshot is crazy work
time to try another quirky team
Wild
6 sync buffs before they have one is so silly
That why i really dont like the idea of use her B Move early for dps
Her ramp just really good

4/5

they changed drastically, it looks completely different now
I wasn't involved with the original staff, from what I was told, it wasn't a lot of folks and interest just died
would that work for the harder ubs tho
Hm
wouldn't you just die in the harder ubs
Then she just doesn’t fit into those fights
Her dps isn’t that strong
I just builded team around her strength is burst with fast ramp
still struggling to do chase nc blue ss hau on mr...
been trying for a while and only got him to 14% before post sync 3 Blizzard nuked me
And dark wish mprs too I assume
Can y'all recommend spa debuffers
I want to try and add more clears to evelyn's UB using 10/5 ss wally
And 1/5 arc steven but no one care about him 
Viola
Karen
Wait i have a better idea

Tech Scyther
I don't even have that one
champion iris
you can even have her 1/5 to mam the clear appear a bit lower investment
I even have her at 0/5 for even lower investment 
been trying to work out a solution to Palmer again
this time I’m running ASC + chase + Paulo
only got Palmer down to like 22%
Why Chase?
sync accel
He does nothing even with sprint EXR
what could I replace him with
instead of sync accel maybe dropping defense can help? I’m really short on ideas
NC Bianca?
Chase is a special buffer unit while you have physical units on your team
if I had nc Bianca I’d be done with this a long time ago
I’ll send what I have here for reference
many of the teams I’ve tried had to trade off something which ended up costing the win
like when I tried a2 Lillie/poppy/as steven poppy’s sync didn’t hit hard enough even after zone + support sync
he had like 40% left when he synced which even an extra gigaton hammer wouldn’t have made up for
NC Rosa seems like your best option but I don't think there'll be much of a difference.
DIE YOU HORRIBLE ICE CUBE
Don't think you'll be able to beat Palmer for now.
finally done w/ dana
just have nita and gio left
the annoying part of dealing w/ nita is trying to get my hail and zone to last long enough bc im working w/ a 1/5 asteven and 2/5 ss n
hipefully the striker cake helps
which one
why use st stat removers?
why not?
aside ftom being slower
ok i do have a invested gladion
i kinda feel like trying to make korrina work tho
ah for fun?sure
Palmer is a very polarizing stage
if you have rei or nc Bianca you’ll find him super easy, if you don’t have them your strike units need to have higher move levels to compensate
in addition to needing more sync acceleration
annoying how he cant be flinched to buy time
Palmer is made for sprint units after all
and unga bunga rats comps
nah
he's fine if you have 1 damage unit at low investment in some comps even if you don't have those 2
the yellow rats somehow still hold up
a lot of the strong comps wreck palmer
he is a lot less limiting than a lot of the UBs tbh
pretty sure steel has almost as easy time as fighting because steel has extremely high accel
it helps that his gimmick is constantly powercrept very fast
and doesnt require more rare options like reliable zone setters
Pretty nice, Thorton was ez
No antitoxin, 2 ez
Doable or does Serena really need that 5/5? She doesn't get anything else relevant from grid
But it looks extremely hard, didn't make it past 30%
Does Cerena have Acuity?
Yeah, same as SSMina
I thought this team was seen day one?
it's listed with a 5/5 ncSerena +10E
dana truly sucks without arc steven

morty gets one shot post sync by aurorus giga impact
3/5 is fine
_ _
Idk what extra tile she gets with +10e, but it might be necessary
Ahh ok
I give up, it's too tight 
Having to rely/delay on SSMina sync to remove their zones while their moves hit crazy hard is nuts
Hey I am sorry. Is there a team sheet for the battle against SS Ethan?
Unfortunately I don’t think the sheets get updated anymore but there is some videos
Give me a movement
Moment*
Lana, my GOAT
0:00 - Vs. Sygna Suit Ethan
3:14 - Skill gear specs
I feel like that is a pretty high invest team that can be lowered down by a lot
Yeah it can, Roxanne, EX Karen, and BP Morty also work as well
there's also a version without Dana. Just use Melony
I realized that Dana was a pretty high ask for some, so I used her and it worked just fine
@spiral summit If I want to try a Nemona clear should I do Bianca 5/5 EX or AnniMay 3/5 EX (not EXR)
What ultimate battle should I attempt I don’t know which one to do
i think you can only do lucy after stacking your strongest pairs with antitoxin
If you don’t know what you’re doing I would be hesitant to recommend a new clear as your first UB
Your roster honestly doesn’t look UB ready yet
I see
Idk what to do on the game other than just daily quests
I think I can try argenta but only at 3/5
Beating Argenta is possible but you want 3/5 NC Red and lucky skill investments first
Anabel, Nolan, and Giovanni added to my cleared section. Was kind of worried on Gio since my Steven didn't have HS1
Hey. I was doing the challenge the mastermind. And I noticed that attacking with fariy isn’t good enough but who can do fariy rebuff? I forgot
Penny & SS Wally. Btw all negative status change counts so you can also use trap or confusion.
any rebuff works
we are talking about sygna suit wally btw
Yes. I have SS Wally
Make sure you bring another pair with negative status change beside Wally because Giovanni cleanses rebuffs after every sync
Or just try to nuke him before he has a chance to do so
wally himself can apply confusion too iirc
It's not reliable enough tho
Does Gio have something similar to Argenta where the non-rebuff negative status change are cured for every action done?
No, he only cleans it every Sync
Ok update. Once Gio use sync move, the rebuffs wears off. The Special attack is one use only.
Ok I’ll probably show my units that I been using
can this work?
If you have someone that rebuffs with sync you can save that sync for after he syncs
Yes
Just save Wally's B Move until Giovanni uses sync move
Or use Teeter Dance to apply confusion
Rosa applies rebuff presync so you can save Wally's post sync.
Use SS Gladion's bmove when all opponents have rebuff & -6 spatk & the field is fairy zone (prob the 2nd or 3rd turn post sync)
The things i gotta do for an EBE 💔
gl
I hate you Dana 
leaf thinks she’s on the team
Yes 
Ngl, i didnt know what to do at the end bc it was the first time i was there

I'm sorry for making you suffer for this run 
Selene W
congrats
is that the power of the rare legendary 10/5 USUM Selene? 
I wouldn't say she's a rare 10/5 tbh
Damn
that was very tight
cgz tho
10/5 elio too
I barely beat the SSGio event fight with SSGladion/SSNemona/NeoBlue. But now I've got an acquaintance asking for advice on it too. Are there any good clear videos for people with fewer Master Pairs than me?
Update: it was possible
2/5 houndoom, 1/5 morty, 2/5 giovanni
There's a pure f2p clear of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltNwGTH7pWI
Ofc need high investment on everything but f2p.
通常装備でも行けるかもしれませんが結構火力がギリギリなのでスキル装備推奨です。
最後の最後で結構ムズいの来てビビりました。
#ポケマス #ポケモンマスターズex #pokemonmasters #pokemonmasterex #f2p
this is so possible
4/5 exr morty, 3/5 exr leon, 3/5 exr selene
looks like it might just dumb down to getting potion mprs
selene grid could also probably be better but idk what to do with it
Thanks, maybe he can get some ideas from this
Irida not beating the mid allegations 5/5 SSRC will be on top
You can do it
What do your skill gears look like
that works, I guess
Just using regular gear
I would have to roll all 3 pieces with fire + steel or something similar for all 3 to get the benefit and I aint doing allat
Ill just wait for a good steel type fav
Will Ghost team beat Dana with a weather support?
Ah I think thats a skill gear diff
Lol probably
My pin has +20 sp atk, +95 hp, and +10 sp def for fire but thats about it
None of the passives matter
The main part is that morty has to survive the coin flip crit of 2nd sync because he has to run acuity
I think if you simply focus like a good atk gear for selene or smth that gives special damage increase apssives for Leon I can see it making a diff
Probably yea
Leon's sync usually gets wasted breaking the 80% threshold too since he only gets dana to anywhere between 88% to 83% health pre sync
Ill do some gear rolls now and give it a few more tries tomorrow
Ah hate when that happens
ok i just doing more attempts on challenge the mastermind. I didnt know that rebuff will reset every sync move. I guess fairy rebuff wont ladt after the 2nd sync move.
Ye this is still good I’d probably try and fix the bracelet a little bit but even then it’s not bad bandana and pin are perfect tho
I'd say the bracelet's fine just cuz it hits both types unlike the other 2
Since without the bandana bonus selene’s gonna be taking more dmg from blizzards
It hits both types ye but you’re not getting anything super active other than just stats and for Selene it’s the minimum amount of a good atk
how can i beat take on SS Ethen? I forgot
Ok. I noticed dark type is favored. Ok I was thinking the other take on ethen challenge.
Well, you have to be wary of another thing
All of the enemy moves are AoE
And sides lower your offensive stats and SS Ethan has a multiplier for lowered offensive stats
oh that's what the A.A in your in game name stands for?
God I hate her so much
just barely muscled past gio
sc selene > lillie here if you have her i think
like she is so much more reliable
rip
Don't have any or the arc unit (didn't pull them)
each team I can technically do miss one member (like no Ghouldengo, neither think like Dahlia or V Kalem)
lodge glad is one of the best lodge units
hey look Nate in a UB
i can see nate being a decent meat shield here lol
with 4/5 AS Steven
Solgalillie
looking like Gloria2 and Lana is all that’s rly needed alongside someone else that can do decent damage
I mean it's clear-able with Lana + Falkner + genpool flying striker.
A2Gloria is basically Falkner but WAY better dmg & -cd to compensate fly cd loss so...
Why do you have to be Ice Weakness Blue ! 
Yeah, Gloria definitely allows for more freedom with damage dealers. I’m just tossing in random units at this point
Bro's about to double th number of Noland UB clears
I just tried The Giovanni battle but it's stumping me...
- Need something to remove the Dark Zone
- Something to debuff Attack and Sp. Atk
- A consistent source of interference
- Try to defeat it before Dire Hit All +
I have SS Gladion and SS Mina, anyone else to compliment these?
Someone who can inflict a negative status change
I tried with Lodge Lille (can also debuff Atk and Sp. Atk) but she's too weak and I don't have someone for recovery.
What’s your roster like?
My biggest nemesis really is the Interference heal + Resilience...you gonna time the interference or you're just stuck mostly taking hits while they're shielded.
You have any rebuff units?
You don't necessarily need interference. Applying rebuff works
Assuming ye you have them
Pull NC Blue now and 3/5 him
Mostly joking but if you haven't pulled him you should do it.
Rebuff also removes after Sync, and from what I know my only rebuffer for Fairy is SS Wally and it's a one time use.
Oh... he 100% can work.
SS Wally is the unit made for Giovanni actually
Can I actually do enough damage with Wally before they Sync again?
And I don't get why you didn't use him
I tried, and he was helpful as he also has Atk and Sp. Atk debuff. But after one opponent Sync, the rebuff disappears.
Although I guess he does have Gobsmack, but again you gonna wait for reselience to disappear.
Try save his bmove post sync? After removing dark zone Gio doesn't really hit that hard.
Giga Impact and Double-Edge begs to differ
I used B-Move pre-Sync due to the maxed out stats, but sure, maybe I can handle +2 Sp. Atk before using B-Move after 2 X Atk All.
Pre sync you bet on Gobsmack.
Post sync bmove asap coz rebuff won't be stopped by resilience.
Also Gladion's bmove should have more sync buffs & aoe -6 spatk & rebuff to deal better dmg post sync than pre sync.
OK, I got it, and yes, used SS Wally's B-Move after the 2 X Attack All — SS Gladion was able to Sync, then plus B-Move to finish the sides; somehow Fleur Cannon became big damage after that.
I just might, who knows
Perhaps even more as I continue to awaken Gloria.
For now my best idea for a third is someone that can help with sides, as I feel that those are just luck based
add Eri to the list of random thirds
since LuSSa AOE made the sides easier…maybe I should try Anni N
yeah that worked out
cool
why u bullying Noland 
deserved 😮
bored
also testing Cinderace as I awaken
currently 7/5
could 8/5 but a yellow def ain’t worth it to power up DPS
we could always use Cinderace to bully other UBs
I think if you replace Ethan you’ll get further
WDYM by "further"?
Like you might be able to pre sync without Ethan
Maybe
I think SP3 will be the difference here
Definitely possible to pre-sync with that team
Which is stronger for Ethan? 2 +25 sync move nodes o Interference Sync?
I almost had it
Sobbing
The problem was Nemona got in Dire Hit All+
I'm surprised Steven didn't finish mid off before that
Assuming CS2 and Shower Power with 4 +25 tiles would be a 600 BP sync, if you had Interference sync 5 in addition to CS2 and Shower Power but only 2 +25 tiles would be 700 BP sync
You can normally afford all sync mults and +25 tiles though, for a 800 BP sync
Evelyn with 4 AS Steven, 2 SS Leon, 3 Eri
this is one of those clears that’s only rly possible cuz AS Steven/Eri just work together quite well (at least imo)
So I've got some time. I want to try to win the Argenta battle. What's the recommended teams for this? I have Adaman
Adaman and Acerola make it super free, if you don't have Acerola you can use any supp really
SS Acerola? Only one of the Tapus I don't have...
Her role is to clear Psychic Terrain though right?
It's not really big, just facilitates the resetting of sun to override rain at 50%
You don't really need to deal with psy terrain
I wouldn't simply gloss over an ontype damage multiplier either, GT definitely helps but saying the only thing it does is override PT is disingenuous to Adaman existing in your team
You can go with any big supp alongside adaman
Okay I think I get it then
As long as you save 1 b move of adaman's till you reach 50%, you're fine
Okay no I don't get it after all
Didn't do much better at all compared to earlier attempts
Once that Dire Hit All + comes, it's over. I do far too little damage
Team, grids, recording if possible
Basically center takes almost no damage. I lost at 50%
Sounds like you're not using the b move well
I didn't get a chance to use it a second time because that crit sync wiped everyone out
if they're getting to 2nd sync and you didn't get to 50% there's something very wrong
Plane Wi-Fi too awful to watch the whole thing but any reason you're doing like triple the damage I am? 3/5?
they're using 2/5 grids, idk how your run is going so I cannot really say what's happening
but for future reference, pls give more info, saying you have adaman, but not his move level or throwing with red who's also 2/5, despite being able to work is very detrimental, if you show your other dmg dealers could be way easier to come up with a more rounded team
I figured they made this battle to be dealt with 1/5 Adaman. Would be unfair to also require him being 3/5
it doesn't require, but no ub is considering 1/5 or uninvested units
There's my full roster. But I thought the team I had would work since it seemingly answered everything
they do work
but you take an adaman 2/5 vs 3/5, his sync doublesthe dmg
so it becomes a lot easier
fire team would be quite easy to beat them with Leaf, Leon and Morty
Oh, off-typing?
invested units off type are directly better than almost any answer on type below 3/5
nearly every dps has a massive boost at 3/5, if you're below that, off type tends to be mucher easier
That's super lame, especially since I already cleared Thorton with that same fire team. But I'll try it
Well, it works, I suppose. Still had to get lucky and survive the crit sync
Vigilance lucky skill: I exist for a reason.
Has anyone cleared the dana UB with an adaman + grassy terrain setter team?
oh yeah im dumb my bad. I don't know why grassy terrain suddenly become zone in my head lol.
Just cleared Anabel with 3/5 Irida, 2/5 NC Blue, and 5/5 Arc Leon. It's my third UB down and was about as hard as argenta and much harder than lucy.
Are Anabel/Argenta on the easier or harder side? I'm like 100 percent sure Lucy is supposed to be the easiest.
many consider Anabel to be on the harder side
while Argenta is usually seen as the top 3 easiest?
Really? I guess for Anabel I had better units. I only had 1/5 Adaman + 2/5 V Hop for Argenta, so that makes sense. Thank you for the help.
What UB would you suggest I attempt next with my current roster?
you should take screenshots at move level tab instead
i don't think you can make further progress with your current roster tho
Fliter to only show 5* units
4* won't help you much there
They can definitely do Darach
with Adaman's infinite sun i'm guessing?
should i show gen pool 5 stars too?
or are Irida's WTZ usages enough for Arc Leon to blitz through
Yes
i think this is enough
duality of man
Yeah
Adaman + 5/5 Leon will obliterate Darach
Ok yeah you got nothing else. You can get Darach with Leon and Adaman but the rest are probably impossible for you right now
Maybe you can do Thorton too since he's fire weak
unfortunately my singular good tank support is weak to ice. Believe me i've tried the thorton UB several times 😭
Thank you guys for the help though, it was very useful. I'll be attempting darach soon.
With 3/5 Blue, Leon and Adaman I think Thorton is doable
3/5 Blue also get offensive debuffs which helps a lot
F2P has some good tanks, could ss blue make the cut when invested
for thorton at least
since he isn’t ice weak
They don't have levels or move levels on most
I'll have to try that out once i get the support candy do i make adaman the primary target or blue in that team
oh, sad
Definitely focus on getting Blue to 3/5 once you get the candy
With 3/5 Blue it'll open up more UBs
yep, I've heard good thing about 3/5 blue, hopefully 3/5 irida, 3/5 blue, and 3/5 red can clear some ubs I haven't already done by itself
I'll make sure to attempt those two as soon as I get NC Blue and NC red, thanks for the help again
thanks for reminding me about guard i completely forgot about it lol that might be what's needed to clear that stage with blue
Maybe Nita if Irida is 3/5
Not happening without 3/5 Blue
She hits really hard
just lol
feel proud for beating anabel i guess, it's one of the absolute hardest
argentina is beatable with f2p units so it's hard to call it a hard UB, but it's definitely the hardest of all the F2P-doable UBs
i personally say it's the 4th easiest
Argentina is doable with just supports kek
I beat her with 1/5 ho-oh, 3/5 nc blue and 4/5 as steven
i lowkey thought argentina was a tiny bit harder than anabel, but I think that's because I had the perfect units for anabel
I think she actually took me more tries than anabel which is kinda sad looking back at it 
Lol
kinda same, tho I didn’t even bother with Anabel for a while
I didn’t rly bother til last month with 4/5 VBede
did the hard way with May/AS Steven, tho did come back with LySS instead of May
yeah that was easier
she can be hard if you forget about her rebuff clear at 50%, and don't play around that
Out of the 3 I've cleared, I would consider Argenta the harder of the three. Just feels like infinite HP. I didn't like how I had to put on a lucky skill for Lucy instead of just using my supports, but other than that it was manageable
She’s got 716.1k health. It’s stupid tanky.
And she hits like a noodle for me
…… you didn’t get rig of rain ?
well, yeah
when I say they I’m referring to Team Triage Tank
not Refreshing Rain
first I started tossing in random units with Noland, now I’m doing that with Evelyn
I’d rather not
I’m fine with Volkner/SS Piers/AS Steven
THIS IS SO POSSIBLE i just didnt get another steel wish mpr
i just had to change up my leon grid a bit and i've been doing significantly better
is there a list of teams for the Fairy weak Giovanni battle?
We don't have it but you can ask for tips here
I HATE THIS ONE
I must make it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that I DID NOT DISCOVER THIS STRATEGY. I ONLY PERFORMED THE RUN IN THE VIDEO
The credit should go to this player, whose video I will link: https://youtu.be/ltNwGTH7pWI?si=yNPAgk5rby7VtLja
0:00 - Vs. Sygna Suit Giovanni
5:38 - Skill gear specs
What do you have to work with?
I wonder what the ghost ub will be like
Hopefully EASY because i have nothing for ghost
I feel like our ghosts aren't good enough to even make a very hard battle
if they focus on Ingo or Irida thats kinda easy gimmick checks there
ughh i keep getting around here but then shit just falls through
maybe i should be using his b move earlier
using b move earlier still leaves me around the same place
sobs
Is there any room for skill gear improvements
I'd say mine are above average
Ig i could go for more damaging passives on the bracelet and pin but honestly im chalking it up to skill issue more than anything
Cuz I either hit the 30% threshold with a b move thats doing like 220k or with sync which also overshoots it a lot
So a lot of the damage is getting wasted but by then morty is susceptible to 80% crits after maybe surviving a coin flip sync crit
The bracelet is not good imo
I seee
Yeah i dont really have much on fighting tbh
I only have hilbert for bug
I guess i got eri but shes not a damaging pair
chat, should I continue trying to beat mr with chase nc blue and ss hau ya all
Yeah, she’s quite a good tank imo with some good debuffs, but she sure ain’t gonna be carrying DPS
At least for the UBs I’ve been tossing her in regularly, they go on so long she just heals right back to max every attack
I keep on dying at 10%...
like this gets to be normal
have you tried her on mr?
the problem is post sync 3 Blizzard wipes my entire team
and I don't have any circle left by then
nope, haven’t rly touched that stage
if I had Geeta I’d be more willing to but ehhhhh
Oleana is a coin flip for status
I beat it when it released but I wanna do a clear with the comp I mentioned
AS Steven/Eri may be busted but I still need a proper gimmick check
doesn’t MR cure himself half a dozen times
which neither Eri nor MR do
He cures himself almost every other turn yes
Oak actually counters all but attack and speed debuff gimmicks of mr
do you have nc cheren@marble portal
it's hard to see if there's something to improve without details
uploading an attempt would be nice
I’ve done MR before, but never went back
will try, my poma starts dying if I try to record for some reason
mr is the wrost ub imo
not the hardest but the wrost
anabel was more of a forgor issue
yeah yeah I forgot about LySS
Dana has more off type than on type clears
Her main counters aren't steel
AS Cyn I bet
And ss mina
and the many weather units+zoner
I hate that mr status cleanses so much...
and ss mina needs acuity so she can't use vigi, so she needs to rely on her tm to block crit, so the team has to play at a certain speed if you don't want to reset for late game mprs
what's wrong with resetting for mpr
if it's late game
for each cycle you want her alive after the dire hit+ you would need another crit shield
Put your next UB predictions down
Ingo and emmet, red, cynthia, missing hoenn frontier brains
could be a lot of things
Definitely submas bros is coming
finally!!I.hate.mr.even.more.now.
Now that I did mr with an actual debuffer I can say that he buffs himself wayyyyy too much and wayyy too fast
is this considered a lower investment run btw(all are 3/5 )
Finally!
This took so multiple attempts and adjustments!
It wasnt clean at all lol, Blue could've survived, but hey it's done
no special defense debuffers?
no special defense debuffers?
palmer carry
the hydreigon was killed that quickly?
woah
will you try palmer Larry or just palmer on mr?
wdym that quickly?
It starts at +1, then Blue drops to -1, and Hydreigon only ever acted once lol
And then well
killing hydreigon before it acts thrice
wtf palmer 10/5 hits hard
well duuuh
ngl, I still thought he would be a fraud
474 atk, 730 BP sync, 210% mult (+ blue's and bianca that i didn't count), zone, circle
oh yeah oop i didnt change
think palmer Larry or something with palmer could do mr?
Status and speed debuff
mr cleansing himself every other turn is cringe
hey, he debuffs speed! By 4! 
debuffing speed is not really a must, as long as you can keep the offensive ones down
blue is also ice weak
Ig a combination of larry + nc blue can bring the odds to para high enough
and then blue does the debuffing lol
nc blue being ice weak alongside speed up might be an issue 'tho
is there a vid
true
suprised my succesful clear had nc blue so alive while in my other attempts everyone started dying immediately. Wish I recorded the attempts to see what I did different
I recorded yes
I hate that my poma starts dying if I try to record....
I'd like to upload everything on ytb in a single video tho, but I can upload it here gimme a sec
I feel like if palmer deals enough damage quickly enough to kill mr quickly enough to not die with that team it could be a good showcase
do ya all think chase ss hau nc blue could do Evelyn?I wanna do more stuff with this comp
that should be fine but why chase 'tho
because I beat some other ubs with chase there and it felt good to use this team so I wanna continue using it
been revistising some ubs and redoing them for fun recently
yeah they should do it fine, Hau debuffs sp.def and you can probably give dc2 to Blue for more def drops
from memory I think you need 4 def drops
def drops are needed for Evelyn?how much does it take to keep fluid fort ineffective again
-10 total to keep it ineffective?
-10 yes
that should be pretty easy even without dropping def then
Sum of buffs and debuffs needs to be -10 or lower to completely shut down the passive
I am so glad evelyn doesn't buff herself nearly as aggressively as mr
otherwise she would have been a harder challenge
@boreal abyss I did ss hau stuff on mr(with only 3/5 on everyone)
I have been loving using him recently
very fun unit
I can see why you 10/5ed him
what did he get again
Fairy zone extension 3, ET First use of Fairy wish
so glad he got strike exr
And 20% more damage to allies under fairy zone
So like alone with et and fairy zone
He gives 40% more damage to everyone lol
Just by existing
oo that's gonna be nice to garantee his sync under fz in hse
Reason why it's super good
mini ss Lear boost
Yeah exactly
Happens that hau is my lil baby to be protected too
And there ya go
10/5
lol blue gets one shot by t1 triple axel 
I think if the hse battles and params aren't nasty you should return for the next hse
no ice guard?
no lol
I am heavy considering it
Cuz I have also a 7/5 Cynthia
gl if you do come back
? aren't there a few nc blue solo tank nc blue clears on mr
how do they tank the opening axel
ice guard
oh wait you said you don't have ice guard not that you have ice guard my bad
I assume most nc blue clears are heavily master fair based to increase dmg reduction as well
that too yeah
Yup
It's ok tho, can't ask for anything
Looks at arc stove and Cynthia
BUT ANYWAYS
We love NC blue
He's the GOAT compared to the AS units anyways
So close somehow lol
gl, mr with nc blue as solo status mon must be hard
leaf can status, 50%
oh is that a grid tile
HE4
Not relying on NC Blue for para?
both
Without someone like Chase, yeah, it's hard
even with Chase it's hard to keep him statuses
*statused
without aoe gautanteed status mr is very hard to keep statused
bruh im dying of nat crits 
Wonderful
has nc blue chase ss hau on Evelyn been done before?if not I will try to record my clear
I'll try more later
Should be very doable
At least speaking on my end
3/5 no idea
Is there anything in the doc?
lemme check
Any ideas where to use a brand new 3/5 Clavell for funsies?
Aside ofc Anabel
Maybe a rush water team Vs Palmer with like, him DJ Gloria and a third?
Nita
I feel like palmer has been rushed by almost everything a billion times
Now you make me want to do water rushing team
His clears don't feel that exciting anymore
Man Clavell is so much fun
I did fire with Mela, but that team has Chase
is he a juggle unit?
huh, clavell gas x evasion?
when was the last time we got an unit with that
physical chase with burn would be nice
Me too hahahha
I gotta upgrade her ngl
But oleana is 2/5 so might give a chance to her first
dahlia is the core unit of water isn't she
Ah she is just that good
Her SA too ngl
Very tempting
Happy to see ludicolo shine
Funny mon
she gonna kick cerena out of water real
If that happens that would be best case scenario for me since I never pulled cserena and still did what I had to do without her

One less masterfair to care about
a lot of people are running water with clavell dahlia instead of cerena already iirc
Anni Steven beating UBs again (no, there's no cheren in ba sing se)
well not a lot
I saw people theorizing, but no one actually doing it



