Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[arctic nest]

Bless, will see if this works

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FrqjjrsLxYg

[arctic nest]

It does!

[static cloud]

Does Leon resist physical?

[paper mural]

If you mean the Deity fight, yes. Sentry Entry x3

[static cloud]

Damn

Guess it’s just me and lodge Steven against the world

[paper mural]

Any strong special dealer is fine

[static cloud]

Oh ok cool

[gentle wharf]

Ah nothing like crushing old content with banner units

Oh wait supposed to have an Alola unit for Glacia lol

[rotund oasis]

Nice

team breakdown for both Poke War BCs.

didnt even need Falkner, NC Bianca just destroys that stage lmao.

[marble portal]

buzzma gaming

doesn’t do much for the event missions but hey, funni damage numbers

[kind wasp]

Any grid suggestions? I saw a clear with this team but they had 10/5 leon and brendan, I maxed out the energy cap on all 3 but havent been able to beat it yet

Brendan and Leon have cake btw

[fading walrus]

Sub out leaf for a better impervious unit imo

Or just run triple vigi

[kind wasp]

Uh lemme check who I have with impervious

[rotund oasis]

you can also run Downside Up units.

[kind wasp]

I have ss blue 5/5, anni skyla 3/5, alt elio 1/5, zerena 3/5, ccalem 3/5, and poppy 1/5

From limiteds

[kind wasp]

I have ss steven and ss hilda 4/5 ig I could try it

[fading walrus]

Either poppy or Acuity Zerena

[kind wasp]

So uh both of them die kind of fast

Even with acuity there’s a ton of debuffs and zerena dies before first sync

And also icy wind

[fast pendant]

I don't feel like this team should have any issues

would be easier if you record how it's going

[rotund oasis]

i wonder if you can presync her with ss brendan into bt leon hrm.

[kind wasp]

Could be my grid, I was following another clear but they had 10/5 so im not able to copy

[fast pendant]

you definitely don't need that

3/5 should be more than enough

[fading walrus]

You should not attack with her until she syncs

[valid raft]

Laughs in Icy Wind

[fading walrus]

Do you not compensate with Brendans buffs?

I guess it's still too rng

[dim lance]

Hmmm

[kind wasp]

What about restrain?

That’s all im doing pre sync

[fast pendant]

the grids look fine

[kind wasp]

Also suggestions on these grids? I tried to modify the ones on the clear sheet

[fast pendant]

I would sync with leaf 1st for buffs

how far are u getting

[kind wasp]

Ive gotten to like below 10% on latias before but that’s the farthest iirc

[fast pendant]

so you're just getting critted then?

[valid raft]

I might replace Leaf TBH

[kind wasp]

Yup

[fast pendant]

give the team vigilance

[kind wasp]

I dont have anyone better

[fast pendant]

who is tanking, being only at +3 def seems low

[kind wasp]

Brendan

[fast pendant]

sync wiht leaf first so you don't get low def buffs

[fading walrus]

Yeah have leaf tank

[fast pendant]

no, don't have leaf tank

only sync 1st

[fading walrus]

Why not

[fast pendant]

you need brendan to get hit so he buffs more def later on

[fading walrus]

Ah, no idea how his kit works

Thought he has no def buffs at all

[fast pendant]

and his defs are just way better

[stable tundra]

He has Team Tough Luck 4

On grid

[fading walrus]

Yuck

[fading walrus]

I just thought recup could offset the reduced defences

But if you need the rng buffs yea

[fast pendant]

healing shouldn't be an issue considering 2 potion users

also I don't think you need to burn the sides, only the center

[kind wasp]

Prob shouldve healed leon

I think the def buffs are just not happening for some reason

He has TTL4

[fast pendant]

why haven't you used max move

either as protect or to finish off latias

[kind wasp]

[kind wasp]

Idk ive used it before to finish her off and it ended up doing like nothing is it better to use it on her or the sides?

[fading walrus]

Are you like

Not using darts

Because it's really weird you're killing so slowly

Darts damage is like

WAAAY higher than bmove

200+ ST vs 120 AoE

Once you've debuffed enough use always darts

[kind wasp]

How much debuffs do I need?

[fading walrus]

-4/5 atk and def

[opaque dagger]

https://youtu.be/hfSBieChiG0

[dim lance]

mfw chips

[shrewd marten]

new stall comp kekw

[plush gale]

With Debut Character https://youtube.com/shorts/l6T1S3Gjmu4?si=qDISwkoCA66y_ubl

[wheat crater]

What on gods green earth is Morgan’s Ultimate Battle

[paper mural]

Bring Impervious or Downside Up units and she's suddenly a joke.

[valid raft]

Even with that, you still have to deal with defensive stat buff mitigations

[stable storm]

hilarious and fun

[rotund oasis]

Funny team comp.

The sides died really fast o.o

[wheat crater]

Yeah got it with NC Blue, Arc Steven, and NC Nate. Took two tries but it was pretty easy

[stable storm]

it's a very fair and funny ub

[cosmic token]

Easy clean sweep

[lunar sedge]

:]

[stable storm]

any v marn thorton clears yet

[dim lance]

https://youtu.be/CUWs3FrBDig?si=sdT7AvsKluUzzcvo

Hmmm

[rotund oasis]

Wait. Why is hol jasmine paralyzed o.o

[cosmic token]

Got hit by the Thunder Wave

[rotund oasis]

She has lithe on my run hrm.

[cosmic token]

I didn’t grid her with that.

[proud marten]

palmer down

[fervent mulch]

Is that recorded I’d love to see it

[proud marten]

yeah i can upload

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwFwh4kAqfU

ended up being a bit overkill and i coulda gotten up kanto circle and rebuff much sooner

but still going to need 10/5 prob

[fervent mulch]

astounding

[proud marten]

and gear is same as what i use for dc, can definitely get away with worse

[proud marten]

hm

4/5 dahlia could make it doable for max cd

[north locust]

What sync pairs can return the opponents stats to normal?

[stone scarab]

SS Misty, Lodge Gladion, Brycen and Event Victor can reset the stats, Lear, Grimsley and SC Zinnia can steal all the enemys raised stats for their own

[north locust]

Oooo Gladion, that's perfect

[opaque dagger]

There's also summer Hilda and Fall Roxanne that can invert their stats (except crit)

Penny can also steal stats

[stable storm]

there's also Lear

who steals stats and at 4/5 applies buff block

[valid onyx]

Wow survived the sync

[golden steppe]

So close

[golden steppe]

Ughh trying to upload BC Clear with Base Bugsy on YouTube but it keeps turning into a stupid short 😭

[opaque dagger]

Extend above 3 mins or edit the url iirc
Changing https://youtube.com/shorts/ to https://youtu.be/ iirc

[paper mural]

EX Bugsy is quite based not gonna lie.

[proud marten]

i have a browser extension that converts all shorts into regular video urls but i couldn't use it earlier bc mobile

and i didn't feel like manually editing

[stable tundra]

That is the method I'm using

[golden steppe]

Alright F2P team clear is possible

I mean obviously

But still

I didnt record it tho…

[golden steppe]

https://youtu.be/6LLpBdhTIMw?si=bClUb0VOnHAd6Jkv

Don’t know why this vid is so blurry but here ya go wanted to do this for fun

[alpine quiver]

I think I'm gonna stick to extreme battles
I've not noticed a huge push for F2P content about challenge battles

Unless I'm just not paying enough attention

[golden steppe]

You are lol i just did this for fun

I was like “I wonder if base Bugsy could do it…”

[alpine quiver]

Oh, no no
It's not about your video
I think it's awesome ^^

[golden steppe]

Ohh

[alpine quiver]

It's just also something I considered as well

Because, as much as I HATED the event I happened to choose to do F2P, I also relished the challenge

So, ofc I wanna do more, but I think I'll just do the challenges with "extreme battle" on their tin or Arc suit battles

DO THEY NOT KNOW WHAT "SHORT" MEANS???? 😭

[golden steppe]

I hate YouTube shorts so much 😭

It automatically making my videos into a short because it was short 2 minute video

[alpine quiver]

All my thumbnail work for these was kinda for nothing because of this

[paper mural]

You should try BOTH og bugsy & og Lillie in the same team.
That's kinda fun (I have ex Bugsy tho).

[alpine quiver]

It's DC, but ignore that

[golden steppe]

Ooh possibly but I’ll probably need to EX yer

Her

I’ll try though

[golden steppe]

So close

I mean it’s definitely possible you just gotta hope Bugsy can dodge all those Blizzards

[paper mural]

Mine, with ex Bugsy.

[golden steppe]

[paper mural]

I had another clear with Lisia but it's more clunky so I don't like it.

[shrewd marten]

Thing about f2p clears

It’s usually done by people that don’t need that option anyway

Because it requires high skill gameplay

[golden steppe]

And bunch of rng

[alpine quiver]

Pretty much

But
You never know who needs the help, ig!

[shrewd marten]

Like for example I did a clear a really long while back

I deleted the vid because I wanted it to be clean but I got like 2 comments that said they got it and everyone else said they couldn’t do it

It was the Ethan ebe

I did it with kris morty bertha but it was so tight and required head start and enough ex upgrades for her to survive an earthquake and bla bla bla

If you’re a player with these resources, odds are you already have at least one good unit for the region, so you wouldn’t need it, so whomegalol

[alpine quiver]

That's one of the issues I do think of

Some of these clears are just
So investment-heavy

[shrewd marten]

And if you’re a newer player pulling it off is really hard

Not to mention I have to ex everyone, and 3/5 all of them, which there are a lot of 5* non limited now

So rip

[shrewd marten]

It has to be because it’s barely possible in the first place

[alpine quiver]

Yeah

I try my best to limit investment, but for things like Arc Leon, it's tough saying who can clear

[paper mural]

I rmb that f2p team of SSNemona ebe. Definitely cool but almost all ppl have hard time replicating it.

[alpine quiver]

I don't know why I was thinking about Nemona's UB 😭

I was legitimately wondering how the hell could someone pull that off

[proud marten]

still better to prove that it's possible at all than not to

[noble sapphire]

Does this fight have anti-Crit?

Oh, is it connected to Dark Zone?

[stable tundra]

Yes

[dim lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIrDlp9-gwA&t=2s

@warm haven rofl

fairy's first clear v MR

and it's this

I know his selene is just 3/5 but it's kinda funny how all she does is Acid poke + sync most of the time lol

[warm haven]

Damn nice. It's cool to see a full circle in action

And no speed debuffs is

[dim lance]

It does show the unique applications of Selene

Fwiw

[warm haven]

yeah, another rock pair with circle that does better in a non rock team

[nocturne arch]

oops wrong channel

#poma-lounge

[dark dust]

Ehehe. Oops

[fervent mulch]

Epic gaming

Nemona had flame proof I can’t believe this would’ve been pre sync

[fervent mulch]

Was able to make it way easier

[nocturne arch]

dose rally counts here?

[fervent mulch]

#1009564564821639379 has its own thread most game modes have their own thread

[dark dust]

Wonder if I can pre-sync this

[kind wasp]

So uh for this clear is it worth getting the burn on the sides as well

[warm haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8qdfWcexE

i like this team

[boreal abyss]

Do you think a silly bug team with H!Bugsy, SC Barry and a third heavy debuffer could work vs Morgan, i might miss the third unit to try it sadly

But the first two have impervious

[fading walrus]

Double vigi+ arcsteven sounds free

[boreal abyss]

I don't have him 4/5

Trying a harder route

[snow spruce]

what move level is Rei?

[final yacht]

10

[snow spruce]

Then you probably need some good move damage skill gear for him

[dark dust]

I grabbed Insult to Injury. I'll see how it does

At the cost of Berserker

[fast pendant]

Not worth it you don't have +6 atk

[boreal abyss]

Sadge for bugsy dying at the last move but I needed mind games 2 on him to make this work lol

What a unit, love his healing

Morgan done

3 Latias sync tanked iirc

And yes I gambled with punishing strike sc Barry.

[fast pendant]

[boreal abyss]

Huge supporter of H!Bugsy after this one man

Amazing stuff

[fading walrus]

Yeah he's better arven in application

[dim lance]

I am very surprised

That you're calling it good over at best three rounds

[fading walrus]

With extra enhancing

[dim lance]

With long anim no extension

• blue is also there as a primary anchor

Like, I'm not trying to rain on parade or be a negative nancy ofc but

I think Bugsy + another circle unit would be better indicative of what he can do

[dark dust]

Okay I see now the problem. Noland is neutralizing the -6 def with TM and 50% Endure

So he's only at -2 Def

[boreal abyss]

I have no good third to swap away blue, I am very sure with another one that covers the debuffs everything works

Cuz he can easily resist that far on his own

Problem is, I miss units hahaha

So I'll leave the job to the brave ones

[dim lance]

Yeah, Bugsy is not a very comfortable solo anchor either way unless you have an external circle

Where you have far better stomach

[boreal abyss]

It's a good base starting point for bug types tho

I am sure even a BT Leon as third could work

And job done

[dim lance]

It's there, but he still plays with a finite duration

[boreal abyss]

Yeah that's the sad part

Cuz overall I am having so much fun with this unit

[dim lance]

Such that I suspect viola iterations would still be better, or just traditional zoneless

Don't get me wrong tho, Bugsy is great if you give him a circle

That B move is balanced by his own circle cap

Give him bianca and he becomes stupid as hell

Because he can spam it no problem

[boreal abyss]

Hahaha that's true

But yeah, like take that silly clear of mine as a starting point tbh

Cuz so far he gave me only good vibes

[dim lance]

It's there, and I don't want to take away your appreciation of him

I just don't particularly enjoy crediting support viability in double anchor comps

Double anchor comps are perfectly valid and recommended for security

[boreal abyss]

Eh I wish I had other third units man

That's my issue

Can't experiment too much

[dim lance]

But if a support needs another support to compensate for backbones it should be subject to more scrutiny

But that's just me

[boreal abyss]

Consider bugsy didn't have vigilance like

It was so scuffed lol

I needed two mind games 2 units

And SC Barry to do his job with rng

Heals and such were not a problem, bugsy can totally live that alone

That's why he fainted sadly, crit

He avoided them all till the very end hahah

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/TiTZUWDnqp0?si=cCJR4e4OVHB6q_PL

Leech time

[warm haven]

triple support time

[dark dust]

Pre-sync achieved

[snow spruce]

Nice. Thats the second offtype pre-sync Noland after the Fire teams recently

[final yacht]

Rei feels illegal

[dark dust]

At the very least he'll stay 10/14 on LG unless someone does an insane Catalyctic Cure run

I'll upload this in... 18~is hrs? Once I get access to PC

[warm haven]

wait i thought that was palmer

[dark dust]

Well I did a presync Palmer too if you want to see. Duo

[warm haven]

yeah i saw that duo

10/5 rei is crazy

can you try Nita? since he has trip twice

[fading walrus]

SA stat increases are illegal

[dark dust]

I haven't done Nita regularly

I'll see what I can do

[warm haven]

i'll prob 5/5 rei soon too

[dark dust]

I was actually trying MR pre-10/5 but that was with NC Blue RNG

Got to uhhh 57%?

I'll revisit that too

[dim lance]

nah, that team unironically has good offensive pressure, the fuck?

[fading walrus]

Circle stacking + debuffs

15k leech life and 99k rage fist with stacks (60k without stacks) is funny

[fading walrus]

Yeaaaah idk without a guaranteed statuser Royale is awful

[dim lance]

bugsy with circle is a different beast

[warm haven]

He's better ss morty while circle is up

[dim lance]

idk he heals as much

does he?

[warm haven]

i think he should

x2 Sunbathe is 12% right + 6% from regen

[fading walrus]

10% on team

• Vampire self
• Circle heal 1 self

• regen from tm

[dark dust]

It does feel possible. Since I already finished with Geeta + Oleana then I can try this for a challenge

[fading walrus]

Well yeah it's possible

It's just unbearable

The stage already has a lot of rng with AoE spam crit chances + blizzard freezes

[boreal abyss]

Love it, I needed smth that made me feel some fun in this game

[fading walrus]

I immediately considered bianca but didn't think of eri myself

[tawny prawn]

Send help lol. Trying to somehow brute force this.

Closest I've gotten tbh

[alpine quiver]

The way the side just said "fuck it, just win" 😭

[tawny prawn]

If I get rid of leon I don't have rebuff. What are the rules here again? Status and rebuff?

Just happen to pull leon last night. Rip

[alpine quiver]

Just status and use special moves

[tawny prawn]

Ok. Hm

[rotund oasis]

The spd debuffs hurt btw.

[golden steppe]

Now do it with MC and Pikachu

[alpine quiver]

How about you do it? 🔥

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[tawny prawn]

What's your Leafs grid?

I guess I'll try to give it one more go. Don't think I'll clear it still

[alpine quiver]

What do your special DPS units look like?

[tawny prawn]

I've tried a couple combinations. Double Charizard has gotten the closest

Not playing for 3 years hurt

[golden steppe]

Arc Leon and someone who can inflict status on all should work

He kinda does that already

But

Still

[tawny prawn]

Ive tried emolga elesa or SS Leaf bad poison. Don't get as close. Maybe I swap out Eevee I guess.

[golden steppe]

Hmm, who are your supports?

[tawny prawn]

I can ex any of them if need be I guess

[faint creek]

just auto with will & xatu, easily clears every stage ecks dee

[alpine quiver]

Oof
I tried SS Red and SS Lusamine

Not great, tbh

[tawny prawn]

Who was the support? Leaf?
No you would need a status there. Tried that with AS Leon and did ok

Instead of Red

[alpine quiver]

Leaf was support, but mostly to keep people alive
But, the main support was Oak

[tawny prawn]

Yeah. Def don't have that. Not obtainable currently i assume

[alpine quiver]

Sadly, no

I got a few asks about replacements for Oak, but he just does too much for the team

[tawny prawn]

Rip 500 gems i guess

[alpine quiver]

What about special techs?

[fervent mulch]

You could try CElesa and Lussa

[gilded finch]

LET’S FUCKING GO

FINALLY EVERY UB COMPLETED

[dark dust]

https://youtu.be/MePc3M06ejk

[stable tundra]

The strongest Rei haver 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[snow spruce]

full Fighting team has really good burst, especially now after 10/5 Rei.
That kind of pre-sync Noland clear burst is on par with triple dps Fire team with Arc Leon
sadly thats kinda all they have

[dark dust]

Yeah. Idk if they can realistically release a Fighting Pair with utility like Avery lol

[fast pendant]

fight is good for early burst, but loses fight zone too quickly

[warm haven]

What fighting pokemon could have weather

[stone scarab]

Poliwrath comes to mind

[dim lance]

wat

[dark dust]

[dim lance]

That's pretty gud

[warm haven]

yeah

i was expecting rei to one shot last bar but that first move was

[dark dust]

I initially was doing Double TM > B Move > Sync > B Move, but I was coming up short on that 2nd B Move. Then I realized the first B Move is overkill

[stable storm]

reminds me a bit about what ss Lear did

[open bay]

Ash seems to be the play with double support for Leon deity level?

[valid raft]

That depends on what those other two supports are

[open bay]

hm

I have no idea

I’m gonna get my pair list in a bit

[forest dust]

Full roster, also happy to filter it into groups if that’s easier. Hoping to get the Leon fight done before the event goes away tonight, if I have the right tools for it, but totally open to just not being equipped for it yet if that’s the case.

[golden steppe]

Who have you tried with?

[forest dust]

AS Lance and Alt Selene, hoped group Acid to start and the SpAtk focus/SpDef debuff would be a good core. Made a dent, but incoming damage outpaced mine heavily.

Could try Oleana as a third to debuff Atk and Speed, if that gives her enough to do.

[marble flume]

Who have you tried as the 3rd team member previously

[forest dust]

A few options, no one felt like an obvious third—Elio for extra SpAtk, Gordie to see if his Max rock damage field would overwrite the fire field. Most options seemed to be contributing one thing and otherwise feel like a drag, especially since Selene’s B Move is greedy on gauge.

Haven’t tried AS Steven just because Lance was covering defense debuffs, but maybe I’m overlooking the obvious and just plugging him in anyway?

[golden steppe]

Steven might be better, he maxes out everyone’s crit and attack (not really worth mentioning the attack since they have Sentry Entry 2x), he also has heals + defense & sp.def buffs and debuffs

And he’s overall pretty tanky

• he practically wastes no gauge

[forest dust]

Is Leon flinch-proof? If not, another point for Steven

[golden steppe]

Yes and no, he gains resilience for a bit after being flinched the first time I believe

[forest dust]

Got it

[buoyant tide]

am i missing the link/pin/post with the info for the leon fight?

like, lillie ignores dmg reduction and even shes doing 0 damage

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/9HiG68xtYFI?si=gp-Nk4kxWqPjmxPL

@boreal abyss

[boreal abyss]

Wonderful stuff as always from Skinny

[forest dust]

Definitely got closer with Steven out of box—if I get him and Selene an anti-burn lucky skill, that might be enough to get over the finish line. Might also candy Selene for her increased poison damage tile, there are enough of these gimmick fights that I’m sure it won’t be the last time it comes in handy. I don’t have so many good Strikers, so she’s not competing with many others for it, really.

[buoyant tide]

sonia won't be enough to counter aoe speed debuff, would she?

ok she doesnt die Immediately, maybe this can work

[buoyant tide]

christ. is exing my 1/5 sygna leon the only option here

red isnt doing jack

[buoyant tide]

bro i had damage guard on leon for second sync and he still got oneshot. like literally from 100 to 0 despite leon being -6 spatk. my brother in christ.

[paper mural]

The opponents' Leon buffs crit before his second sync, so if you're critted -6 spatk on opponent & +6 spdef on you are treated as 0 spatk & 0 spdef with 1.5 more dmg.
Having Vigilance on the whole team including striker will ease the issue, but since you lost some dmg you need to make sure you can still take them down before your team got wiped out.

[buoyant tide]

im just frustrated bc i dont understand why i cant seem to output any damage

like, regardless of physical or special

and with status across the board

im still barely scraping by to get to 50% at second sync

[paper mural]

They're just too FAT. If you don't deal enough DPS the dmg will look like weak even if you shut down all the gimmicks like in ubs.

[buoyant tide]

yeah. its extremely frustrating

bc like

i know i have damage

it just feels like i have to be missing something

also oaks tm being 1/1 and the WORST about mpr is just

ughhhh

[alpine quiver]

You need luck of the gods to get it more than a few times

[buoyant tide]

its so rude!!

i litereally havent gotten it a single time!! its why i was trying other units

equip vigi
die to chase down
equip haste
die to crit

why god

[paper mural]

I thought you were using speed buff unit but no?

[buoyant tide]

i switched sonia back to oak

currently comp is oak exr red exr 1/5 arc steven

[paper mural]

If you don't mind bare with rng, it's better to try MissLyndis' f2p team imo.

[buoyant tide]

tragically my lucian is not ex and missing a month of cs means i have no spirits 😭

(hopefully i remembered to turn off the ping on that; sry lyndis if not)

[paper mural]

Mewtwo not at ex & powerboost as well?

Bc the first ever f2p clear was using EX Mewtwo as dd.

[alpine quiver]

You're okay! I don't mind

Unfortunately, it is a very RNG heavy team. I don't like to sugarcoat that fact

[buoyant tide]

my m2 is (from way back when even!) but i have no one to boost spatk for him i dont think

oak has flag bearer but not uhh whatever the version for spatk is

[paper mural]

Leaf can +1 team spatk every TM now and +2 after 1st sync, so she's a decent choice.
It's literally Lyndis team but with minor grid change on Leaf + replace Lucian to EX Mewtwo which is better bc of aoe sync.

[open bay]

finally remembered to get help - here's my rock types and heres my supports following this message

i don't like my odds

(this is for leon deity battle)

[paper mural]

You don't really want to use rock in this if you don't have Uselena.
What's your best special dmg dealer?

[open bay]

i suppose Ash?

[paper mural]

Try EX Sycamore + Event Oak + Ash first.

[open bay]

yeah i suppose these are my most invested striker units

whoops i forgot SS Steven

[open bay]

alright thanks

[alpine quiver]

Ash is really nice here, provided you get good status odds

If you've got event Oak, you can ignore the para and go for poison instead

[golden steppe]

Marnie could also work

I tested her out with Arc Steven and Oleana

You could probably replace arc Steven

[open bay]

yeah, don't have arc steven

also i think i popped ash's b move too early?

barely did anything

oh i should probably have vigi on Ash

[alpine quiver]

I used Oak, Ash, and Leaf to show that it could be done

I just didn't upload it because I didn't think it'd be helpful outside of that context

I used CS2 on Ash and used his B Move right before Leon's second sync

[open bay]

when using sycamore, should i be spamming moonblast or horn leech? horn leech sounds more sensible

[open bay]

ah yeah i def popped it too early

[alpine quiver]

Yeah. You wanna build Ash up plenty before using it. That means having as many sync buffs as you can

[open bay]

is oak EXRed?

i keep dying when leon's at 40%

[alpine quiver]

He is, yes
Though, with Ash, I don't think that matters all too much

I just don't have a way to prove that it doesn't :(

[open bay]

Ok in retrospect that is TOTALLY on me for forgetting to pop ash TM and oak protect

[golden steppe]

Ash TM would be useless anyhow since he’s already maxed unless you just wanna waste it

[paper mural]

I guess they want protect effet not maxing out anything.

[golden steppe]

Ahhh the other tm

[open bay]

ye shoulda specificed

[paper mural]

Save Oak's TM for sync bc it has light screen, and if possible better refresh it once for 2nd sync.

[alpine quiver]

That's the way I do it

I use it just before his max move

[paper mural]

Also Oak can -spatk, which I don't think you utilize it?

[open bay]

Oh wait

wrong grid

[alpine quiver]

I did
Religiously

That was in my F2P clear
If you have a much better DPS, it doesn't matter as much because they can kill a lot faster, but it's nice to have anyway

[paper mural]

I was talking about dew whose screenshot has +4 spatk on the sides.

[alpine quiver]

Oh, mb!

[open bay]

yeah i wasnt using the grid that had it

i kinda just flopped on the first grid i had on :p

AAAAA

[alpine quiver]

So close

[open bay]

ok

i did not realise how easy triple chu made it

[alpine quiver]

They nullify any battle, sooooo

[open bay]

there we go

thanks everyone

[marble portal]

2 UBs to go

[forest dust]

Anti-burn helped, I also used some vouchers to get cakes for her and Steven, and also made a general strategy shift for Selene of saving her circles for the end. If she’s going to have to prepare to attack anyway, better to go faster when she’s got sync buffs etc., which might be obvious to long-time players, but everyone’s gotta learn sometime. Got him down just before the second sync would have wiped me out.

(Did not end up needing to spend any candies, so megalixir syndrome wins again.)

[buoyant tide]

god i cant wait to get blue

holillie is so tempting but

[gilded finch]

I just recorded a clear on nemona’s ub with my dexio team i used yesterday

im going to upload it to youtube

So that it can be on the google sheets

[rotund oasis]

what team though? o-o?

[gilded finch]

you’ll see lol

is it okay if the video is kinda sped up

as long as it’s still the full clear

Actually i’ll just keep it at regular speed lol

[rotund oasis]

it shouldn't matter too much, just needs to see play by play, and grids at the end or in link.

[gilded finch]

Yeah i put the grids at the end lol

I dont know how to use the grid website

Ok i uploaded it to youtube

[gilded finch]

How do i add timestamps?

Oh nvm

lmao

How do i get it added onto the google sheets tho?

It says view only

[opaque dagger]

go to "read me"

[gilded finch]

Ohhh found it

[gilded finch]

Thank you i just submitted the form

That was easier than i thought lol

i even learned how to properly use the poma tools website

[rotund oasis]

cool!

[formal matrix]

Steven metagross duo Morgan

[hollow bloom]

Became a lot easier once i gave acuity to Lyra

[wooden parcel]

can a beginner use the 4 arcs to like tackle the UBs?

or is it have to be units from past fairs that can be used to combat them?

[small basin]

Steven cynthia leon alone can most likely net you at least half of them if invested

[fading walrus]

As long as cynthia is invested, her + Steven + a third to counter gimmicks clear pretty much all stages

[paper mural]

There was a time ppl enjoying AC + AS + 9 different third that clear all ubs before Masked Royal & Nemona killed the diversity so only 1 team left now lol.

[sour elk]

Arc Cynthia + Arc Steven duo 7/14 UBs already lol

[snow spruce]

8/14

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/EdsOFmpqjXA?si=P9Bn_gHj0lQH-q7C

@boreal abyss

[snow spruce]

Couldnt even beat Anabel, smh

[fading walrus]

Bro is carrying an average variety and a rock type

Whenever we get a bug arc stuff should definitely change

[warm haven]

SS Silver would have beat anabel

[lusty moat]

Took me 4 tries until I found out what I was doing wrong

[sour elk]

I think it's closer to the rock type carrying Bugsy in this situation tho

[fading walrus]

Don't remember him debuffing and doing amazing damage in that video

[sour elk]

Silver was contributing to damage about as much as Noland thanks to his circle and sand chip, Stone Edge did about the same as Noland's b move without zone

I think his sand, team DR and external circle application to Bugsy made Silver MVP in that run

[fading walrus]

Good for you

I don't agree

[sour elk]

Silver is one of the better Anabel counters, his value is proven on that stage while Bugsy has no representation yet

[fading walrus]

👍

[sour elk]

Would you like to elaborate on why you think Bugsy contributed more value to that particular fight ? We can have different opinions but I would still like to know the reasoning

[fading walrus]

Nah it's ok

I'm not here to discuss over meaningless drivel about which character is stronger in a gacha game which doesn't have the faintest idea of balancing or real competitiveness

[sour elk]

That's one way to look at it, I just like talking about this kind of stuff

I think I spend more time thinking about this game than actually playing it

I've learned some insights from talking about strategy on this discord that have served me well to tackle UBs and other instances of hard content throughout these 5 years

[fast pendant]

I think both have their value, sand, sync acceleration and flinches are very valuable from silver's side, besides his own b move dealing a lot of dmg

the stacking of mp from them together alongside both cirles becoming stronger is quite good as well

bugsy has good sustain and plays a lot as the main debuffer there

[sour elk]

Then it's on Noland

Kind of to be expected from a variety tbh

[noble sapphire]

Trainer  | Weakness
_________|_________
Anabel   | Water
Thorton  | Fire
Darach   | Rock
Argenta  | Grass
Palmer   | Fighting
Lucy     | Ground
Leon     | Electric
Nita     | Ice
Noland   | Flying
Giovanni | Dark
Evelyn   | Fairy
Mas.Roy. | Poison
Nemona   | Psychic
Morgan   | Dragon

?        | Bug
?        | Ghost
?        | Steel

So all we need left is Bug, Ghost, and Steel.

In terms of characters, they still haven't used Dahlia, Dana, or Greta.

From the Frontiers & Maison.

[stable tundra]

If you take the Battle Rally image as a reference, Red, Ingo, Emmet and Dana have not been used yet

[paper mural]

NO Dahila or Greta. Red, Ingo & Emmet (same stage) are more likely to appear than them.

[noble sapphire]

I'm just going off of playable Frontier Brains & Chatelaines.

[stable tundra]

We don't even know if they start repeating same weakness afterward

[noble sapphire]

Maybe they will.

[stable tundra]

Well the UB opponents are the battle facility bosses

[stone scarab]

They probably will

[stable tundra]

Yes, Giovanni is a boss in the forgotten Battle Agency

[noble sapphire]

Masked Royal is the boss in the Royale Dome.

[stone scarab]

I dont see them stopping with UBs after they get through all 17 type weaknesses tbh

[paper mural]

But considering Nemona's existence we're kinda sure that battle rally starting page reference is more important.

[noble sapphire]

I feel like Nemona is only a UB fight because of the Academy Ace Tournament?

[stable tundra]

I think so

Paldea has no official battle facility

(Thanks Geeta)

[paper mural]

We need Normal type UB.

[formal matrix]

There are still a few Hoenn frontier brain missing from the game

[opaque dagger]

they're gonna stop doing ubs to do more LAs

[stone scarab]

[fervent mulch]

I’ve never heard of this before

[opaque dagger]

but kinda funny they did 11 LAs from june 2020 to october 2021, then another 3 in 2023, for a total of 14 over 4 years
meanwhile they already did 14 ubs in 14 months

[formal matrix]

UBs actually encourage you to pull brand new meta units

[fervent mulch]

Wait Rainbow Rocket counts as a battle agency??

[formal matrix]

LA missions are easy and unless you are a LG enthusiast you won’t pull for La

[noble sapphire]

That would explain the random additions of Heatran & Thundurus-I

[opaque dagger]

or maybe it's just more co-op

[noble sapphire]

Yeah, Sophocles is the final boss of the Agency pre-RR, but post-RR, a Giovanni program becomes the final boss.

[stone scarab]

The facility is called the Battle Agency

[fervent mulch]

That’s a battle facility?? I never registered it as such lol

[noble sapphire]

At one point, Legendary Arenas also encouraged you to pull for the newest units.

[fervent mulch]

So Sophocles is a frontier boss today I learned

[noble sapphire]

Like I remember one Arena encouraged Diantha & alt-Iris.

[opaque dagger]

latias
azelf encorages lusamine and cresselia grimsley

[noble sapphire]

Yep.

[formal matrix]

I hope they can come up with new LAs or harder level for LA

[noble sapphire]

Honestly, I hope we get Arenas for Suicune, Thundurus, and Heatran.

At least two of them would bring new Remixes to the game.

[calm sand]

Suicune would be nice for the pure grass weak Arena one really

I do feel that Thundurus and Heatran are saved for something

[marble flume]

Heatran is probably unlikely for an LA for a good while since we got Ground weak and Fighting weak on 2 of the most recent LAs

[calm sand]

Yep

Thundurus is one I have no idea what they’re planning for to use

[marble flume]

If they wanna redo Ice or Rock since Latios and Moltres aren’t weak to it 100% of the time they could do that for Thundurus

[opaque dagger]

till now they haven't completed any trio in la, only the lati duo

so doing suicune, mesprit, regice or virizion would break the pattern

[calm sand]

Heatran did cause speculation for NC Sinnoh, which ended up not happening this month

Yea, there’s still a lot of Pokemon that isn’t used for months in the datamine

[paper mural]

They stop the regular rotation of LG this month kinda makes me worry about their plan for future LAs/LGs.

[stable tundra]

If they include deluxe cookies in next month HS we know the fate of LG has been decided

[alpine quiver]

Normal-weak when?

[warm haven]

Next is Steel weak Dana & Regice

And for the grand final Bug weak Blue & Exeggutor/alakazam and Ghost weak Red & Espeon

[boreal abyss]

At least we will finally see 2021 anni Lillie appearing?

Somewhere?

[paper mural]

Ingo & Emmet: are we a joke?
Ingo & Emmet both use Chandelure - ghost weak
Red & Espeon - bug weak

[warm haven]

Who

[paper mural]

Tho I want Red & Blue & Leaf in the same ub with 3 different weakness but have the passive "not normal type dmg: def & spdef x3"

[warm haven]

But im down for a double UB with the twins, and then another with red & blue

[warm haven]

Leaf is not a battle facility foe tho

[paper mural]

It's just the Kantotrio is a set that appear everywhere.

[warm haven]

But it sure would be interesting

Its starts with permanent x3 defenses and it takes x3 Normal damage

[paper mural]

+ + time.

[craggy wind]

Next is steel weak Dana or Ingo/ Emmet

[river prawn]

Steel will likely also be debuff based, many steel pairs have impervious

[olive scroll]

I lowkey hope for ghost weak Red, as that lowers the chance for zone requirement UB

[final yacht]

[paper mural]

I don't think we will have "zone requirement UB" tho. "No field effect: def & def up" passive is the closest we'll ever get.

[fast pendant]

if we would get one would def be steel or ghost weak since there are f2p options, and those are still to show up

[warm haven]

i mean, there are ftp option for fairy, ice, ground and dark zone too

the egg evelutions + courtney

[snow spruce]

We should, as we had a terrain requirement UB

[fast pendant]

Counting eggmon as f2p options for ub is a bit complicated lol

[warm haven]

Tell that to egg lapras

[olive scroll]

I think ghost is most likely to have that

Bcuz Steven + Lear, there are already many things to use besides zone

[warm haven]

lillie isnt as accessible either, she might rerun once a year which is close to a MF rerun

btw dana will have this

[fervent mulch]

How delightful I’m sure it’ll make for some exciting gameplay that’s not annoying!

Give her balanlea tactics just for funsies

[paper mural]

I just think if it would happen it should've alr be seen among 14 type ubs.

Also it's ub. We should never counting on them build it around f2p / genpool options.

[snow spruce]

the Morgan mass debuff gimmick should have been on Steel-weak UB, not Dragon

now if they repeat it it again for Steel, its gonna look silly

[warm haven]

Well Morgan isnt as different as Evelyn

But Morgan was heavely targeted towards BT Leon

[snow spruce]

I associate Impervious more with Steel than with Dragon

[valid raft]

Alt. Leon and SS Brendan

And maybe NC Nate too

[fading walrus]

Only if It doesn't have tripled defences

If It has DRs like morgan she might actually get usage

If not....i really doubt she's gonna do anything

[fading walrus]

Probably not a heal but having a damage guard gimmick in ub could be fun

[final yacht]

900k HP btw

Otherwise it's not fun

[warm haven]

it's not thaaat crazy if its by the second sync

darach is somewhat similir with that GH

[final yacht]

Nah it's at the very end

[fervent mulch]

We need a UB with first aid 9 that reactivates their hp benchmark passives

[final yacht]

It has a passive that always lets it survive at 1 HP until it used this move

[fading walrus]

500 atk stat to compensate

[fervent mulch]

No give them 1000 offenses

[stone scarab]

Nah, 12,000 offenses

[fervent mulch]

Real

Make flint envious

[final yacht]

literally weaker than lucy

[fervent mulch]

Oh I am not aware of UB offenses it seems

[final yacht]

Recent UBs are around 3000 to 4000 offenses

500 is Latios bar 1 level of weak lol

[warm haven]

several playable pairs get past 1k even

[fervent mulch]

Oh 💀

[fervent mulch]

Wikstrom does

Goat

[distant estuary]

Is this UB a little easy or what

How is this clearable with the steel team with just Arc Steven and free Lillie... are they better than the dragon strikers

[stone scarab]

the steel team counters the primary gimmicks of the fight by existing

and they've also shown that they don't really need to counter gimmicks to be able to beat fights

[distant estuary]

That's true ...

I'll give this a try at least, I just recently advanced Arc Steven to 4/5 and wanna test him out

[fast pendant]

the gimmicks are debuffing and having immunity to them

a lot of steel units have impervious

Lillie and Steven have multiple debuffs

[distant estuary]

Is it okay if we cantry to use buffs to counter that or do they try to cancel boosts

[stone scarab]

you can try, but without at least two pairs immune to the debuffing you're not going to succeed, realistically

[fast pendant]

you want some form of immunity to debuffs otherwise it gets out of hand very fast

[stone scarab]

one pair you can get away with if they counteract the buffing/debuffing in some way, but more than that is gonna get unmanageable fast

[distant estuary]

Okay, I just cleared the UB, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Phew

... sorry if it sounds rather anticlimatic lmao

[fading walrus]

They're saved by the fact the stage has DRs over x3 defences

[distant estuary]

There's 4 type remaining I feel

Or maybe 3

wait

[fading walrus]

3 actually because normal ain't a thing

[distant estuary]

Yea

[fading walrus]

Ghost
Bug
Steel

[distant estuary]

Think they might save bug for 5.5 anni?

(there is data for a potential arc trainer whose pokemon is bug type)

[fading walrus]

Depends when bug arc is released

At latest we'll have full types by March

[distant estuary]

I think they might have trouble thinking up of a good gimmick for Steel cause ... the steel team is just that strong ... Arc Steven (especially 4/5), SS Lear, free Lillie

Realistically, to me, Ghost and Bug stages, depending on their gimmick, are going to screw me, I do not have the latest pairs for them ...

[fading walrus]

They just need to cook a variation of Anabel that's steel weak and with "not statused: Defence & Special Defence x3"

[distant estuary]

If only Irida alt wasn't SC alt or something ...

[fading walrus]

Status is the only thing Op steel trio lacks aside terrain

[fast pendant]

well they have done masked without status which had 3x def and sp.def and robust physique, a steel weak with that is not stopping anything

[stone scarab]

it'd need to be insanely bulky even without the 3x defense passive to have any reasonable chance at stopping them

[fervent mulch]

Buddy lock “prevents the use of enemy’s b moves

That’ll show ArcSteven

[formal matrix]

Just give enemy steel immunity

[fading walrus]

Ofc It would have to be thicker than Royale, which isn't particularly bulky, and have less cleanses but more secondary pressure

[fast pendant]

if they're super effective it would need to be at least twice his hp, which menas over 1.1m

[fading walrus]

Then again this is a joke as steel ub would still need to be clearable by other teams and cheaper options which would inherently make clearing with that op team easier

[fading walrus]

Or have 800-900k and sentry entry x3 on top of the 3x from no status

[snow spruce]

they lack weather and status

[fast pendant]

Lear is special

[formal matrix]

Even if there is no status 3x thing on steel, I believe they use colress or even lodge jasmine instead of one of them they will clear easily

Not mentioning poppy

[fading walrus]

Yeah but with him basically soloDPSing taking down 3x spdef 8-900k hp would still be pretty heavy

[fading walrus]

That's not the point we're discussing tho

[fast pendant]

not really, 900k being super effective is 450k, considering what they have already one wouldn't be any issue

[lunar sedge]

Not sure why that matters when Lucy UB is literally made for a fall pair and a SC pair

[fading walrus]

Is It? I always thought It was just made around the fact most ground types have antitoxin

[lunar sedge]

Adaman has burn so he basically can't get poisoned

And Foxanne can debuff speed

[fading walrus]

He also just folds to AoE

[distant estuary]

Well, it's a bit awkward to explain, but in short, the one good ghost striker I have is 2nd anni Lillie, and she's getting rather dated / old. I was hoping we would get a new masterfair for ghost type or at least a good pokefair but it's not the case

[fading walrus]

And in general doesn't carry the fight

[fading walrus]

Fall iono is really nice tbfh

[lunar sedge]

That's where Foxanne comes in, tho tbh she alone is enough for Lucy

[fading walrus]

She is lol

[distant estuary]

The same could go for bug type, I don't exactly have a good...... striker?

Like I have Alder but even he's feeling really dated imo

[lunar sedge]

wait for 10/5

[fading walrus]

Alder is pretty fine still, just needs copies

[distant estuary]

keep in mind I have him at 1/5 or 2/5, I think

But I wouldn't be surprised if arc bug fair was him

[fading walrus]

4/5 is actually very fine to use

I just hope bug arc isn't a shill

[lunar sedge]

UBs for the most part don't release to shill right?

As in same month type release of shit

[fading walrus]

Usually not

But we know bug and dark arcs are likely next and one of them lacks UB repping so

Either feb or march sounds like a match

[lunar sedge]

Hopefully they release bug UB earlier then

[fading walrus]

I just want my baby to be good

[lunar sedge]

They should save steel for last to let it be as bullshit as possible

[fading walrus]

Seasonal, pokefair or whatever

https://tenor.com/view/slither-wing-plush-plushie-slither-wing-pokemon-pokemon-gif-16720470673390361479

[lunar sedge]

Omg moff

Same pls be good slither wing

[fading walrus]

Considering the first UB is still in my top 3-4 hardest UBs, i don't think release order matters a lot

[fading walrus]

Buddy First impression that reloads every Sync pls,,,,

[lunar sedge]

Start with a bang
And end it off with a bigger bang

[fading walrus]

End It? I'm expecting UBs to keep going

Just like i'm not expecting arc units to be 1 per type

[lunar sedge]

The dream
But we probably gonna get some shit like b lunge

[fading walrus]

Anything that's more fun than "500 bp, does barely anything" buddy move

[formal matrix]

10/5 alder will have 356 bp dps move, so arc alder will need 500 bp move to justify it

[snow spruce]

356bp doesnt guarantee being a busted pair and no one is gonna 10/5 Alder anyway

[warm haven]

reminder that alder has a 60% dps multipliers too

but yeah no such thing as an alder fan to see it

[fading walrus]

Damn yall hating on my man

[stone scarab]

You'd be surprised

[fading walrus]

I would if i was a whale

Him and palmer

Easy first 2 picks

[paper mural]

If you have ArcSteven I feel you're safe for ghost and bug ubs, bc imo these two are not gonna be super hard and will be easily brute force by steel team.

Unless Arc Bug happens in the same month as bug ub (March) and they build ub around Arc Bug a lot which has the same power level of Arc Cynthia.

[stable storm]

one of the reasons I want her to be the tankiest ub with a lotttttt of debuffs and status and interference spam aoe but low damage

and a ton of healing

[gentle wharf]

Alder the Bug Arc

Arcder

[uncut drum]

https://youtu.be/BvnEzTakg8g

Ice weak who?

[marble portal]

4/5 AS Steven 3/5 SS Gladion 2/5 Eri, all caked

a solid 2 minutes of dealing with sides without Gladion

1/5 Adaman here, no cake

[rotund oasis]

I actually fought her again

[marble portal]

does Red nuke harder than Adaman?

[rotund oasis]

Death by 9PMUN Razor Leaf

[marble portal]

oh duh didnt see it wasnt a sync

also has anyone tried Hop on here yet

[rotund oasis]

Dunt have him

[marble portal]

heard he's the new best for DC at least, curious how well he does Argenta

would try him but 1/5

haven't gotten around to EX

[rotund oasis]

My adaman isnt caked but he's 3/5

[marble portal]

1/5 without cake, as I've said

Kinda surprised he hits so hard at 1/5

also for overall purposes, is AS Steven/Eri a good tank duo or just overkill at that point

been considering some AS Steven/Eri/physical attacker stuff for those PMUN

not able to use the good tiles on Eri since 2/5 btw

[arctic nest]

I finally did the Dragon Ultimate

Not very hard with full Imperv team

[dark dust]

Ehe. Oops

[marble portal]

3 N 5 Gloria 4 Steven against Thorton. Gloria and Steven both caked

[snow spruce]

10/5 Reis strongest soldier

does C.Hop suffer from the same thing as Arc Lance? pure ST nuke focus with no AoE (and Hops B-move doesnt do much damage either, its just faster debuffs)
Rei was arguably already better even at 5/5, and definitely so at 10/5
and you dont really want to give up Bianca to run Hop + Rei together

[dim lance]

For the most part, yes

and the comp has like, no offensive debuffs

[fading walrus]

Depends if you have aura cyn or not imo

[dim lance]

without Bianca

Hop means you can not run Aura Cyn

but you also lose a lot of the aggressive ramp

Even then Bianca has her advantages

main advantage for Hop is better duration + midburst

[dark dust]

A "fine I'll do it myself" moment since it seems no one from JP has him

[dark dust]

https://youtu.be/KVbrxF7C25s

[snow spruce]

thats a lot of Cynthia syncs

[dark dust]

Have to keep up with that uptime

[snow spruce]

extension 5 on 5/5 grid soon

[dark dust]

Please

||DeNA: :Understandable here's Arc Fighting Multi/Field pair||

[low coral]

Regice is the center

[fervent mulch]

Isn’t Dana tm full heal and DG

[rotund oasis]

Steel weak? 😮

[golden steppe]

This version will be Team Full Heal and DG

[fervent mulch]

Hype

[golden steppe]

No steel weak 💔

[stable storm]

regice is center

it's steel weak

do not trust anything from lounge rn

[golden steppe]

Play

Ohh okat*

[dark dust]

<- believed it

[opaque dagger]

Clearly it's bug weak as in it's weak to a bug, the bug being it takes super effective from normal type

[low coral]

[legend_rule_6120_001] The first time Regice’s HP reaches 80% and
30% or lower, it endures with that HP.
[legend_rule_6120_002] The opponent’s field effects are permanent.
[legend_rule_6120_003] Restores the opponent’s HP when an ally’s
attack move targeting the opponent misses.

[legend_theme_6120_001] Change the field! Prepare for the
opponent’s powerful attempts to
lower your accuracy!

[paper mural]

Change the field! What field!? Is it really our first zone change ub?

[dark dust]

Steven/Lear/Lillie ah UB

[stable tundra]

Regice so it's screaming Ice Zone

[paper mural]

It’s still possible for Hail.

[rotund oasis]

Acuity gaming..... ?

[warm haven]

Ice zone/hail UB?

[rotund oasis]

if its Evasion, Eevee could work..... maybe....

Poppy since she's like "I will hit you."

[dark dust]

There's a chance it has Hail but maybe won't matter much like with Argenta's Terrain?

[rotund oasis]

Ice Zone will be.. doable... but if its Hail ugh. that's going to be itchy.

[stable storm]

ridicure again lol

[stable tundra]

I could see Hail being a thing

We have some Steel units with sand

Including the upcoming Raihan SA

[dark dust]

10/5 Raihan

[stable storm]

I think it will be zone

[lunar sedge]

Lol

Lmao even

[rotund oasis]

i feel like going 5/5 with arc cynthia now.

if its zone, definitely will need the ability to match her zone tactics.

[stable storm]

any details about dana yet

[hearty cedar]

I wonder how excited Tosakin would be when she sees SS Roxie's super awakening lol

[snow spruce]

oh great ANOTHER Acuity UB, in a row
boy I sure love rolling Acuity ..

At least Arc Cynthia fully counters this

Piercing Gaze
can replace hail
can replace ice zone too

[river prawn]

Weather UBs usually say change the weather right

Not change the field

[stable storm]

yep

[snow spruce]

if it needs replacing zone its probably Steel weak IMO

[stable storm]

I hope Dana has 1 million hp and constant debuffs with a ton of healing and required ice zone removal

[river prawn]

Of course it is steel weak

[stable storm]

it's definitely steel weak

center is regice

[river prawn]

I mentioned days ago that steel could very well also ask for stat immunity just like Morgan

Because most of them have it

[snow spruce]

zone replacing and accuracy debuffs doesnt seem that difficult

[stable storm]

maybe accuracy is just a part of the debuffs

[snow spruce]

the debuffs wont be as strong as on Morgan. Maybe just accuracy and SpAtk, maybe speed?
Since there is also the WZT requirement that Morgan doesnt have
But we'll see

[paper mural]

It's a shame it's not status heavy ub like the subway bro event.

[noble sapphire]

Trainer  | Weakness
_________|_________
Anabel   | Water
Thorton  | Fire
Darach   | Rock
Argenta  | Grass
Palmer   | Fighting
Lucy     | Ground
Leon     | Electric
Nita     | Ice
Noland   | Flying
Giovanni | Dark
Evelyn   | Fairy
Mas.Roy. | Poison
Nemona   | Psychic
Morgan   | Dragon
Dana     | Steel

?        | Bug
?        | Ghost

[snow spruce]

Bug UB will be last

[lunar sedge]

Arc Alder shill UB

[dark dust]

Arc Alder with someone getting MF Slither Wing

Would be the funniest thing if we actually get Volcarona as Arc, and Slither Wing/Iron Moth as MF

[lunar sedge]

Just Red and Submas left then for UBs

As per battle rally start screen

[lunar sedge]

Shut. Do not manifest.

I'll be poor

[dark dust]

Better get ready

[paper mural]

Watch out for these!
Focus 1: Ice Zone
Focus 2: Hail
Focus 3: Accuracy Down
It's actually both huh?

[warm haven]

[river prawn]

💀

[stable storm]

the details are out?

steel will still eat this alive

[paper mural]

Yes. https://pastebin.com/mg8aTexr

[warm haven]

This is is for for arc Cynthia but she's weak to ice what

[snow spruce]

easy food for Cyn again

[lunar sedge]

UB for Rose????

💀

[slow sky]

lol wtf they are essentially blocking ice team with that heals from hail LOL

Passive 8: Healing Hail 2

[snow spruce]

So we now have 3 UBs with ice type enemies and ice type syncs?

[slow sky]

big fuck u to teams that rely on hail

[stable storm]

pastebin isn't working for me, someone please send the pics

[warm haven]

Guys this is prob the worst UB wtf

[stable storm]

finally an ub that punishes hail

[lunar sedge]

Tbf it's ice types to begin with

[stable storm]

???

[warm haven]

940k hp 3.4k atks

[stable storm]

Why did my pastebin stop working

[snow spruce]

your Arc Cynthia?

[stable storm]

I predicted the stats let's goooo

[slow sky]

lmao

[warm haven]

Are you sure shed gonna beat 940k hm being ice weak

[slow sky]

reduce accuracy like insane stage again

[paper mural]

I mean it's the same for most fire team in Anabel.

[snow spruce]

This is only the second UB with over 900k HP

[stable storm]

how much hp on sides p

[slow sky]

bruh wtf man
Move 1: X Sp. Atk All (Uses 1)
Move 2: Earthquake (Unlimited)
Move 3: Giga Impact (Unlimited)
Move 4: Rock Slide (Unlimited)
Move 5: Blizzard (Unlimited)

[paper mural]

Arc Steven really makes them think "yeah we can make this one ub FAT".

[warm haven]

Did Cynthia presync Anabel?

[stable storm]

what does winter coat 9 do

[slow sky]

3/4 attacking moves are AOE

[snow spruce]

When has being Ice weak ever stopped her?
Especially if you counter the gimmicks
UBs with all gimmicks countered arent hard. Its countering them thats the thing

[fading walrus]

That's easily melted by steel tho as long as no EQs

[slow sky]

Move 1: Mega Kick (Unlimited)
Move 2: Blizzard (Unlimited)
Move 3: X Attack All (Uses 1)
Move 4: Hail (Uses 1)
Move 5: Blizzard (Unlimited)
you gotta be kidding...

[warm haven]

Ice weak didn't stopped her because the ice UBs didn't have 940k hp

[slow sky]

so u have to KO the 400k hp side before it uses hail

[stable storm]

what do winter coat and group gloat do

[paper mural]

Is it really for woke Raihan lmao?

[stable storm]

wait is that+30% hp if ice zone and hail are up

[snow spruce]

Thats fully doable especially if the enemy is debuffed to -6/-6 atk spatk
You can survive even the second Ice sync at full HP

[warm haven]

Also the sides have 400k hp

[stable storm]

Ice Zone: Team Status Immunity

[slow sky]

one has 400k, the other 200k+

but the 400k hp is the most dangerous one since it can use hail

u definitely do not want the mid to start healing from hail

[warm haven]

Ah right that's weird

[stable storm]

Ice Zone: Team Crit Immunity

what is group gloat

[snow spruce]

how many times do you need to replace zone and hail?

[stable storm]

and winter coat

[slow sky]

i remember it buffs smth when opponent misses u

but i cannot remember what buff

[river prawn]

winter coat is reduced damage

[snow spruce]

this is actually kinda a nuts UB
Harder than Nita?

[stable storm]

winter coat 9 is 90% dr...?

[river prawn]

yes

[slow sky]

what wtf?

u need zone and weather?

[warm haven]

I think this is the hardest ub

[distant estuary]

What type weakness for new UB?

[stable storm]

steel

[lunar sedge]

Steel

[warm haven]

Replacing both zone and hail is very rare

[stable storm]

1 weather and 2 zones

[snow spruce]

90% DR if hail isnt removed ..?

[paper mural]

Ice zone: Entry, 80%, 30%
Hail: Entry, manual once but not sure when (prob pre 2nd sync)

[lunar sedge]

But it's looking like an absolute bs of an UB

[stable storm]

Yes

[slow sky]

which steel support even has both

[distant estuary]

None lol

[paper mural]

Oh wrong ping. Sorry.

[stable storm]

could this ub be a challenge for steel comp..?

[slow sky]

not to mention

[warm haven]

Not at all

[snow spruce]

what if ASS and ASC can duo this one too

[slow sky]

you need immunity to stats reduction AGAIN

since they will debuff your acc from their moves and sync

[distant estuary]

UB powercreep is kicking in... ain't funny

[snow spruce]

not replacing hail will make it pretty difficult
or even being limited to only 2 steel zones (you need 3)
but they can probs still do it because of SE damage

[slow sky]

this might be the UB that I might not clear wts

[stable storm]

what about the 90% dr?

[stable storm]

no

[warm haven]

Yeah if it wasn't for steel weak they wouldn't

[valid raft]

Winter Coat is move damage only

[warm haven]

Lillie has piercing blows

[snow spruce]

if this wasnt weak to Steel then Steel team probably wouldnt be able to clear it

[stable storm]

ohhhh

nvm steel shreds

[warm haven]

And not like they didn't beat MR without crit and x3 defenses

[fading walrus]

Yeah ngl imma try double Solgaleo again

[distant estuary]

I should prolly draw on new Giovanni MF though. Might help with dark type UB

(Also bc finally another johto))

[warm haven]

Prob the only 15/15 UBs teams are gonna be the steel team and Cynthia

[stable storm]

with who as support

[fading walrus]

Arcsteven ofc

[paper mural]

Technically only acc debuff the counter is relatively easy bc most top tier strikers have piercing gaze, or we can just roll acuity lucky skill, but beware of the dmg output isn't enough.

[stable storm]

you will ignore hail?

[fading walrus]

I'll try

[snow spruce]

oh yeah .. the Blue-Avery-Cheren comp is out on this one, RIP

[river prawn]

acuity lucky skill is always tricky because of crits later on in the fight

[slow sky]

they really are looking at the clear vids from players

[stable storm]

Avery got L

I think electric also dies to this?

[slow sky]

they are deliberately going the extra mile to block certain teams

[paper mural]

You can rewrite hail with shorter hail.

[warm haven]

Yeah

[distant estuary]

But it seem a bit counterintuitive to have UB steel yet try to block the best steel team

[stable storm]

Only team that is brute forcing this ub is steel

[slow sky]

that's kinda what they did for Nita back then also

[stable storm]

Steel comp is strong enough to not care

what 1 unit counters this ub other than ASC?

[snow spruce]

Healing Hail 2 on a 940k HP UB

[distant estuary]

Nita at least can be countered with 3/5 Irida and NC Red but it a tad tough...

[slow sky]

shits gonna heal like what, 100k/tick? ☠️

[snow spruce]

Its only fitting that ASC (the best unit) counters the hardest UB

[stable storm]

ice zone hp recovery as well

[stable storm]

?