Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[slow sky]

no idea

for some reason Idt my team had issues with paralyze

I initially failed a number of runs cos my run wasnt optimized

that's about it

[rotund oasis]

Mix Red also? problem is my Ar cSteven is 1/5

[uncut saffron]

Wtf how?

[slow sky]

once I learnt the stage I cleared it

[uncut saffron]

Because i always got paralysed

[slow sky]

I had more issues with PT mpr not triggering than para ngl

[agile wind]

do you all get KO by overdrive of the sides, even without electric terrain?

[fading walrus]

Yeah sides have high AF stats

[slow sky]

nop, they didnt had the chance to use it for my run

[fading walrus]

So striker syncs are really good

[slow sky]

the moment mid died the sides were almost dead as well

[craggy wind]

New EB is hell indeed

Barely won with nc rosa ss steven and Lana

[fading walrus]

My second run got her dead at 1 move from first sync, even cleaner ikz

Best part is Rosa could be 1/5

The important parts are the striker here

[slow sky]

my cleared run, they tried to use but too late

[craggy wind]

Well her defenses gonna be shredded

[agile wind]

you synced first with SS Lusamine?

[slow sky]

yes

in order to get access to the AOE ASAP

u dont want the sides to still be bulky after mid faints

my failed run, as you can see, the sides hp arn't too far from the mid's

[fading walrus]

She gets hit by

• tpunch
• wild charge
• tpunch

[agile wind]

did you also use teteer dance with NC Rosa?

[slow sky]

after the first sync yes

[fading walrus]

She definitely can survive that

With 1 potion

[slow sky]

they only cleanse the interferance with TMs, regular attacking moves does not cleanse

so you have afew moves for Rosa to self heal or heal the team if needed after 1st sync if you need it

[agile wind]

like Attack X, speed X, ect

[slow sky]

yup

I initially assumed they cleanse every freaking move, but no

I overestimated the stage initially, you can say

[fading walrus]

Nvm, I forgot to cut the first 2 tries kek

[uncut saffron]

Should i try that with ss steven?

[agile wind]

in this case for the strikes

[mellow drift]

Cant beat it with bianca, ss steven, arc steven, idk what im doing wrong

[agile wind]

should I choose Super powered 3, instead of crit strike 2

as lucky skill

[slow sky]

I used CS2 as I was lazy to change as usual

[uncut saffron]

I'll try SS Lusamine

Kip what's your grid?

[slow sky]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=012001080001&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=11111&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFER0fICEiIyQoKy4v&v1=010102064800&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDRARExQVFxgZGhw&v2=010200051800&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=11111&g2=AAECAwQFBggKDRAVGB0gIg

Rosa's grid is not optimized

Team Stoic and Force field are the important 1s

the rest u probably can take it out and use it for potion mpr/master healer

[fading walrus]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12001/80001?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFHyIjJCgqKywuLw

Use this

It's better

+30 spa is bigger than either cs1 or weird vibes

[slow sky]

ah

[fading walrus]

Because it's basically +42 spa

[slow sky]

I didnt really went to calculate to that extent

[fading walrus]

After mega

And lussa spa isn't that stellar

So +42 does a lot

[uncut saffron]

Wait

[slow sky]

definitely will make the stage easier

haha

[uncut saffron]

NC Rosa spams Teeter danceM

?

[slow sky]

no

after enemy's first sync

teeter dance

[fading walrus]

No you need the MUNs

Early

[slow sky]

the next TM from the enemy will cleanse (so might need to know when if your battle drags to that point)

[uncut saffron]

Ah i see i see

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/Inzhf5twtPk?si=imS-buwtK9KSXliU

Here's the cleaner presync

[slow sky]

after they use TM, the interferance will be cleansed

regular attacking moves wont

[fading walrus]

That's actually 1 turn to sync too

So even if nemona was like

760k

She's probably die too?

[uncut saffron]

Oh, Head Start on Bianca

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-tetsuo-tetsuo-shima-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-12118377099744361472

[whole field]

I dont have necrozma or meloetta... This looks like its gonna be hard

[fading walrus]

Necrozma is far from being a carry

She's great sure but she's no "carry unit" for nemona

[whole field]

I have latias and tapu Lele

[fading walrus]

The main 2 are Rosa and Lana

[agile wind]

I DID IT

FINALLY

[fading walrus]

With who Ciro

[whole field]

Probably should use lele for more consistent field

[slow sky]

Ngl but extend range really shines on this type of fights on-type

[agile wind]

SS Lusamine, Bianca and NC Rosa

[slow sky]

Since the sides have such bulky hp also

[fading walrus]

Definitely, as her extend range helps immensely for sides

[agile wind]

for the people that did not manage to clear with that team, mine had SS Lusamine with her EX Role unlocked, which is support

[whole field]

You need rebuff at start and at 50%, right?

[fading walrus]

Yeah without exr it's quite harder

[fading walrus]

No

It's at start and after sync

[agile wind]

any interference

[slow sky]

It's sync

[whole field]

After every sync?

[fading walrus]

Ye

[whole field]

Yikes

[agile wind]

NC Rosa has teteer dance that confuses everyone

[fading walrus]

Ideally rebuff

[slow sky]

If you can kill pre-sync u only need it once

[fading walrus]

^

But to presync you need Lana + a big investment psychic nuker

[slow sky]

[fading walrus]

And Rosa ofc

[agile wind]

if you don't have lana, I'd say SS Lusamine is the best bet to clear, that's what I used anyway, SS Steven may also work

however, you'll get KO by the sides after Nemo dies, that's why it would be better to use sync pair like SS Steven or Lusamine that have Aoe

[fading walrus]

The priority is definitely

Rosa>Lana>>>Lusa/SSteven

[agile wind]

I think if you have Lana, you can easily cleare this EB

I don't have her, so I don't know for sure

[last horizon]

That was annoying and took a lot of resets

Had to use a candy on SS Lana for refresh on terrain

[frail kraken]

what do you mean SS steven does not help with this ultimate battle

hes a damage dealer

kinda

how.

[agile wind]

before you KO Nemo, the sides needs to be at low enough HP to KO them with your next move

otherwise you'll lose

[frail kraken]

oh.

[agile wind]

my SS Steven was at 1/5, so my only option was SS Lusamine

[fading walrus]

I'm gonna do a gridless NC Rosa presync

Then test with steven

[agile wind]

also, you need a little bit of luck with MP Refresh on Psychic terrain, cause Nemo will automatically set up eletric terrain after sync and when she reaches 60%, also once she goes KO, the left side will also use electric terrain

[fading walrus]

To see if he can hit high enough

[agile wind]

I think NC Rosa is quite good in this EB, cause without an interference, they will have their defenses tripled, that's why you need to make sure to use Teeter dance to confuse them

they'll remove the condition with any TMs tho, like Attack X, speed X, etc so you need to be careful of that

[olive scroll]

Does Nemona have resilience? Can we keep up confusion on her permanently?

[low coral]

She doesn't, we can

[slow sky]

she dont

[agile wind]

I think she is immune when electric terrain is up

[slow sky]

so u can reapply immediately when it wears off

yeah, u need to get rid of ET

iirc she is also debuff immune with ET

[olive scroll]

Does that apply for Leon too

[slow sky]

that terrain is nth but bad news

If I recall correctly, Leon is sleep/flinch/freeze immune, so he should be

[dim lance]

Korin is cooking something

Its either statusless MR with standard steel

[fading walrus]

Yeah duh

[dim lance]

Or he somehow figured out how to do Nemona with it

[fading walrus]

That's why I said she's the #1 unit

For Nemona

[olive scroll]

Thanks

[low coral]

Yes

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH01UMt2JFA

[olive scroll]

My idea to do Leon is kinda strange now

[fading walrus]

Unsurprisingly

[olive scroll]

But idk how he hits much harder than MR

[snow spruce]

that was already done (if you mean steven-ss lear-lillie 2024)

[slow sky]

lol Leon, I literally played with fire on that stage

went with sun team with Geeta (Morty, NC Leaf)

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/PbrTpWdIABw?si=dm2Tch02Rv6c7oPH

Here's the gridless NC Rosa one

[dim lance]

Is he actually going to do Nemona with that comp

That's scary

[olive scroll]

Geeta has 100% status chance, right

[slow sky]

yup

plus her attacking move removes the damage field when he uses max move

instantly negating that extra dmg your team suffers after that

[olive scroll]

Non guaranteed status vs Leon is just RNG galore

[fading walrus]

Yeah, I refused to do Leon without my 1/5 celesa

Or geeta

[whole field]

Phew.

Got it, without caking or candying anyone new

[uncut saffron]

How do you solve the rebuff?

[slate light]

delaying blue's sync maybe

[uncut saffron]

NC Blue sync at 60%?

[whole field]

Zapdos at the start with discharge.

First sync with deoxys (caked)

Second sync roght after his sync

[paper mural]

One thing that surprse me is that they didnt hold dmg when reaching 60% hp but just survive the sync under et.

[whole field]

Didn't need to rebuff at 60%, just set psychic terrain.

[uncut saffron]

Right after nemo's sync you mean?

Wh

[whole field]

The Zapdos sync was after nemona first sync, around 75%

[uncut saffron]

How did you solve the status change problem?

[whole field]

With zapdos rebuff...

You only have to aplly it twice, and win before nemonas second sync

[uncut saffron]

But.... you said you don't use Sync at 60%

[snow spruce]

https://x.com/coreen1002/status/1850894644772798635
he tried the Rally version before and said not possible, maybe found some way, idk

コリーン@ポケマス (@coreen1002) on X

結論　現状では不可能かと....

サイドが硬すぎるねん....b技耐えたら何とかなるかなと思ってもそもそもb技耐えないしb技前のハイボきついしでほんま...w

Twitter · Oct 28, 2024, 1:37 PM

[uncut saffron]

Wait, was it 75% or 60%?

[fading walrus]

Discharge rebuff -> Steven sync -> nemona sync -> blue sync rebuff -> pterrain at 60% -> kill

[whole field]

You need to rebuff at start, and after nemona sync.

You have to apply psychic terrain at start, after nemona sync, and at 60%.

Based on the damage i was doing, nemonas first sync is around 75% health, so thats the approx range i had to use zapdos sync (my second sync)

[slow sky]

endure does not cleanse rebuff also

[fading walrus]

Ye

[slow sky]

(thankfully)

[fading walrus]

If it did she would be actual hell

[uncut saffron]

So even if nemona's sync is BEFORE 60%, then i am fine rebuffing?

[whole field]

This felt like one of the hardest UBs for me

[whole field]

Yes. You just need to rebuff right after her first sync

[uncut saffron]

Ah i see

[fading walrus]

Yep

[uncut saffron]

My brain is so melted after hours of trying this shit

[fading walrus]

If she removed rebuff at 60%

Idt she'd be presyncable

[whole field]

You mean pre second sync, right?

[fading walrus]

No?

I mean before she syncs once

[whole field]

Wtf

What team does that?

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/PbrTpWdIABw?si=hbH7f5dZQ1-6Ijdo

[rain sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZehsKtiu1pk

[slow sky]

it doesn't really matter, her endure does not cleanse rebuff, but if you are hitting her hp 60% before she sync, make sure you have a terrain move to immediately overwrite hers

u really dont want to get hit by a sync boosted by ET

[rain sorrel]

This took a couple of tries because Bianca refused to pop Psychic Terrain MPR

[fading walrus]

She doesn't even get to sync herself

She dies with 5 moves done rofl

[olive scroll]

NC Blue can take gobsmack too

In case you don't wanna waste the sync

[whole field]

I don't think im playing the same game...

[uncut saffron]

WHAT IS THAT THUMBNAIL????? 😭

[fading walrus]

They cleanse confusion often tho

[fading walrus]

Heero Yui behaviour

[uncut saffron]

😭

[fading walrus]

I love sync cd funnies

I've still to try Nita with anything but the presync duo + melony team

[pearl pewter]

lear 3/5

[fading walrus]

Because fuck that fight

[pearl pewter]

confused left toxtricity out of ET

I remember that someone was coping that poison team can do this UB

didn’t age so well now did it

[fading walrus]

Yeah rofl

We told that person

Like 50 times

"trust us bro, terrainless teams ain't doing this"

[pearl pewter]

I imagine that 4/5 is far easier since you can lock them out of buffs from sync but 3/5 works too

[olive scroll]

It will be great if steel can do terrain Nemona tho

[pearl pewter]

literally was tried and did not get past 60%

[pearl pewter]

yeah

[fading walrus]

Even if you get to 60

You're definitely NOT getting to sub 20%

[slow sky]

Poison terrain dont exist so oof

[slate light]

my favourite part of this ub is when i push nemona to 60% then get one-tapped by toxtricity discharge :)))))

[slow sky]

I remembered I had a run, I pushed her to 60% right before her sync

I resetted that battle immediately

[paper mural]

If only in mainline misty "terrain" was a dmg boost terrain, so they didnt need to create fairy "zone".

[slow sky]

it still can be useful when dealing with stages like Nemona's

[covert marlin]

Dena really thinks adding this UB into rally is fair
fk Nemona

[pearl pewter]

ss lana is 1/5 and nc Rosa is 3/5

[slow sky]

then u got Nita

an even worse bs stg

☠️

[pearl pewter]

grids n stuff

[paper mural]

Nemona is fine ontype but a nightmare offtype.

[slow sky]

yeap

[rain sorrel]

You say that to Nemona UB but not Noland UB?

[pearl pewter]

LS didn’t really matter while ss lana and lear both had SP3

[rain sorrel]

His is, have specific units, or LOL.

[pearl pewter]

good to see that grassy terrain teams work too

[stable storm]

Where Lear

[fading walrus]

Palmer with support + field boosts

[dark dust]

To Noland's credit, his requirements are genpool. It's a problem if you don't get the desired role for him but let's face it that's a problem for all UBs in A10

[fading walrus]

Under SSteven/LuSSa because his DPS isn't as high as his setup isn't as fast ig

[slow sky]

I remember getting his stage

but the shop also sells something that gives damage guard after every move

so Noland is basically hitting me 0 on that stage

besides his sync move

[fading walrus]

Yeah Noland ain't too bad in UB

Because his base hp is a joke

[slow sky]

but its going to be a pain to those who wants to save points in rally though

[fading walrus]

So stacking just a couple bonuses melts him

[fading walrus]

Just 2 +100% are enough in most cases

[stable storm]

he pre synced as fast as lussa with 1/5 lana and rosa

[stable storm]

with non exed Lana

[slow sky]

thankfully so far I have not resorted to apple cup so far

[fading walrus]

At what ML and what investment

[slow sky]

most of the time I either settle for Hard or buy a food item for stage 10

like the guard chocolate or MPizza

[stable storm]

5/5 Lear, 1/5 rosa and lana tho it's doable with 3/5 since the buff block field isn't actually relevant for the pre sync

lana wasn't ex

[fading walrus]

Mind showing the clear

[stable storm]

lemme get the pic

@fading walrus (yukure's lana and rosa are 1/5 and lana isn't exed cuz hse is going on)

[neat needle]

Is Nemona’s UB another impossibly hard one

[stable storm]

No

[neat needle]

Well like

[stable storm]

she's pretty fair if you can remove et

[snow spruce]

you can survive terrain sync if Nemona atk is debuffed. If its buffed then I think you die from full hp no matter what, even at full hp and with defensive circle
only damage guards would save your dps then

[neat needle]

Do I need high level promotions

Like this wouldn’t work no?

[stable storm]

wdym by high level promotions

[neat needle]

Like 3/5 5/5 pairs

[stable storm]

almost every ub requires investment yes

you could try replacing anni may with Bianca to have refreshable terrain and see how that goes

[neat needle]

Cuz with that team was the farthest I’ve made it (95% health)

[stable storm]

3/5 isn't high investment imo

[neat needle]

Should I EX Bianca?

[snow spruce]

Need the 13/13 Blue-Cynthia-Avery

[neat needle]

When your F2P and don’t save it is

[hearty cedar]

Nemona and her rng bullied my team a lot

[stable storm]

idk if bianca needs the stats to survive the attack

[rain sorrel]

I never synced with Bianca at all.

[neat needle]

Ah icic

[stable storm]

what comp

[hearty cedar]

1/5 ss lana us enough for this stage

[hearty cedar]

3/5 nc.rosa, 3/5 ss steven, 2/5 lana

[stable storm]

me and yukure are the only ones to use Lear on nemo so far it seems

[stable storm]

yeh, yukure pre synced nemo with 1/5 ss lana earlier

[hearty cedar]

I need 4/5 to use lear against nemona which I dont have

[stable storm]

no?

3/5 has cleared

[rain sorrel]

I do have Lear but he's just 2/5 for me

[hearty cedar]

Oh

[stable storm]

3/5 could probably pre sync

[hearty cedar]

If the clear is with steven then we'll have to use 1 p.boost on sides instead of killing mid fast

Or sides will bully us

[stable storm]

Lear clears just rush nemo and hyperspace the sides

[hearty cedar]

Strike exr helps a lot

[stable storm]

Left usually dies to 1 hyper and 1 lana b move after 2 Lear syncs

Lear is our glorious king

[snow spruce]

[slow sky]

[slate light]

mfw one of the tox's has electric terrain 😭

[neat needle]

Prob cuz I got SUPER unlucky with Psychic Terrain recharge but this is what happens at second sync

[olive scroll]

If Avery or 5/5 MF have good expansion, Cheren can have 13/13 clear

[warm haven]

both next month

[olive scroll]

Trust

[stable storm]

you will have to get lucky and get a ton of mpr

[earnest panther]

Reject old lady. Return to king.

[stable storm]

king.

I am gonna 10/5 Lear the moment his 10/5 drops.

[neat needle]

[earnest panther]

"How are you feeling today? I'm sure you can survive..."

Me:

[slate light]

get pwned xd

[paper mural]

I used NC Blue + SS Steven + Bianca and needed 4 psychic terrains.

[stable storm]

I needed 3

[snow spruce]

until the hail UB (never ever)

[stable storm]

the only type ice is weak to that remains is steel

[slate light]

needed 4 myself

• start
• nemo 1st sync
• 60% endure
• one last one to btfo the toxes

[paper mural]

1 for entry, 1 for first sync, 1 for 60% hp and 1 for the f***king Toxtricity.

[stable storm]

steel isn't too big on sand

[neat needle]

Yeah that’s how I feel rn

[olive scroll]

Zone UB prob soon, then I may replace Cheren with arc flying or sth

[stable storm]

so hail ub never

[neat needle]

Wait she doesn’t get terrain on the second sync and forwards?

[earnest panther]

She does

[neat needle]

I hate this game

[stable storm]

start
Nemo endure
Another to make sure et is up so I had enough damage to pre sync

[snow spruce]

zone UB needs to come, although replacing zone is maybe too easy
in that case dont make it a one-trick pony with just zone, like Nemona is with terrain

[earnest panther]

She sends out ET when:

60% Hp
After Sync
Mid Faints (sidemon)

[olive scroll]

We have 4 types left for UB, dragon ghost steel bug, right

[uncut saffron]

I DID IT

[olive scroll]

All have zone

[paper mural]

You killed the middle before her 2nd sync.

[uncut saffron]

I FUCKING DID IT

[stable storm]

Nemo one trick pony works pretty well

[uncut saffron]

HAHAHAHAHHA GET REKT NOOB

I KILL HER I KILLED HER

[stable storm]

Who tf needs SSS for crazy battle girl

[olive scroll]

[uncut saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-mad-laugh-maniacal-laugh-killer-joke-gif-26635796

[snow spruce]

yes, because its terrain, there are only 3 terrains
wont work with zones

[olive scroll]

Zones lack good free options tho

[paper mural]

Who give the sides an extra et need to get fired!

[olive scroll]

Oh Lillie

Steel UB might be very hard

[snow spruce]

UBs are supposed to be ultimate challenge, you cant balance them for free units IMO
and there's soo many zone setters now, everyone has some

[earnest panther]

BATTLE, YOU, BE, NOW??? - Nemona

[paper mural]

You can technically clear zone by defog, which is a commonly seen strat to do ebes with zone.

[slate light]

base lisia 13/13 when?

[stable storm]

and nemo abuses the common one

[olive scroll]

I would need a husbando with Arc Cynthia kit to replace Cheren

[paper mural]

Tho defog units are not good in ubs at all.

[valid raft]

Yeah, Defog units wouldn't be good on Anabel, Argenta and Nita

[paper mural]

Defog cant clear weather, so they are natureally useless in those ubs.

[stable storm]

I want them to make steel ub a 990k hp ub with 3 endures, 10% healing on each endure grad, heal, permanent support sync buff, 1 time recover (flinchable with reseliance), constant aoe -2 debuff to all stats, status spam and low af attacking stats

would fit for a regice ub with dana

[valid raft]

[olive scroll]

Lillie ignores endure, right

[stable storm]

nothing ignores ub endure

[stable storm]

current top steels would also counter this

[snow spruce]

Lillie ignores normal 1 hp endures, not UB 60% hp endures

[low coral]

There's no ignoring, although there's workarounds

Mainly multihits

[valid raft]

Gloria's superawakening will wreck anything steel-weak

[stable storm]

does this ub sound tame enough?

[valid raft]

Ask Gloria

[stable storm]

I want steel weak ub to be a fat af ub with rapid stat drops and status spam basically

[snow spruce]

steel-weak UB will probably have lots of debuffing. So you counter with Impervious, Lears circle etc.
but AS Cynthia even has a counter for that too, Sand fortress

[stable storm]

debuffing and status spam would be nice

while being fat af since steel comp damage is very high

[valid raft]

Steel-weak UB being Dana/Regice with Super Powered 9

[paper mural]

Normal ub. Passive: not normal type moves deal 80% less dmg.

[stable storm]

make it function like dc passive

where pb can't break through

[valid raft]

Indeed

[stable storm]

what did ya all think about nemo

[low coral]

Boring and badly designed

[snow spruce]

its probably my least favorite UB. Just everything is hinged on the terrain.

[valid onyx]

Hate it cause I can't beat it with my steel team

[uncut saffron]

It gave me brain aneurysm

[stable storm]

why so

I personally like it when ubs are just 1 specialised thing you must counter and don't have many high raw stats

[fading walrus]

Is there a grassy terrain clear without adaman?

[low coral]

? It's 500k HP on sides and Overdrive as their DPS

[fading walrus]

Try offtyping

[stable storm]

most are without him

[snow spruce]

Noland or Palmer remains my fav UB
Thorton with the mixed damage requirement is interesting too IMO, they need to repeat that

[stable storm]

no I like on typing

[fading walrus]

Can I see them

[stable storm]

(I like Noland for this reason)

[low coral]

Nemona does have the raw stats, the only thing she doesn't have is mid with an absurd DPS attack

[stable storm]

go to skinny's channel @snow spruce posted a link to another grassy terrain clear as well

[fading walrus]

Also yeah nemona is almost the definition of high raw stats

[fading walrus]

Skinny did arcs + fodder terrain

[stable storm]

isn't 3k attacking stats on the lower end for ubs?

[low coral]

But sides have the strongest move to deal with yet

[snow spruce]

mix red isnt fodder..

[fading walrus]

^

[fading walrus]

He basically is there

Cmon

[valid raft]

Both of them have field EXR, how are they fodder

Lyra and Red

[low coral]

While Electric Terrain itself doesn't really have much counterplay

[stable storm]

I thought 550k was average for ubs?

[low coral]

Grassy Terrain is on very few units (and most of the ones that do have it set it in a limited form), while the Defog pairs that are more decent are still not very good and are Electric-weak

While the non-Electric weak one is Lisia lol

[warm haven]

no, he may not deal the most damage but the team needs his utility

[warm haven]

lisia is prob better than the other defog pairs

[low coral]

Than Darach and BP Falkner?

[snow spruce]

You couldnt do 13/13 arcs with Greta or SS Lyra or SS Acerola etc.

[low coral]

What would she even do over them?

[stable storm]

darach would have been so good on Nemo if he wasn't electric weak

feather dance and defog with grad heal

[low coral]

Falkner would constantly debuff Attack and Speed, as well as featuring confusion

[stable storm]

bp falk has confusion?

[warm haven]

nvm yeah i was gonna say bulk but it's because they're electric weak

[low coral]

Gobsmack 4 on an AoE move

[uncut saffron]

50% Conf
Negated by 50% due to AoE penalty

[low coral]

What penalty?

[stable storm]

passives aren't affected by that iirc

[uncut saffron]

Wait

They don't

?

[low coral]

Passives either activate or they don't

[uncut saffron]

[low coral]

There's no penalties or individual values on AoE

So it's also every hit gets confused or no one is

[uncut saffron]

It would be funny to see someone actually use BP Falkner

[paper mural]

Imagine a defog arc unit one day.

[warm haven]

it's arven & chien pao with b-ice spinner

[rain sorrel]

Yeah, Ice Spinner alone would counter it. I'd be interesting if it also counters Zone but it'd be counter productive since Ice Zone is a thing

[fossil fjord]

Damn, my SS Lana can't survive Nemona's 2nd sync even with Bellelba's shields

[low coral]

Who's the third?

Ideally you don't want to reach second sync in the first place

[fossil fjord]

NC Serena to nuke mid and apply rebuff/confusion

[slow sky]

terrible, but still not as bad as Nita

[olive scroll]

Dragon seems most likely to feature mixed dmg again

[snow spruce]

dragon - need mixed dmg, maybe zone replace (this would actually suck for ontype, its just Lucas for multiple zones)
steel - debuffs you a lot, expects Impervious. Bulky
bug - idk .. maybe buffs a lot of atk/spatk, I think bug pairs are generally good at debuffing that ?
ghost - probably also buffs a lot, all stats, maybe zone replace here. Maybe wants status cond./interference

[stable storm]

ghost would probably want status cuz willow wisp is associated with ghosts

[paper mural]

Dragon could be another "just dps check" like Palmer imo.

[snow spruce]

zone replace is probably ? fine for ghost, you got freebie Victor, SSRC, Yarrdenia and 10/5 SS Ingo

[stable storm]

wtf does bug do

debugging speed maybe?

a few bugs drop speed

[olive scroll]

What if steel has hit yourself 10 and paralysis chance boost
Like gladion EBE

[stable storm]

and constant aoe -2 all stat drops

including crit.

with a ton of hp

[snow spruce]

steel -2 accuracy debuff every turn

[stable storm]

and healing and endure

[stable storm]

-2 everything

I want to watch the world burn

[snow spruce]

they could even do zone replace for steel-weak too
Can do a bunch of gimmicks there if they want to make it hell

[olive scroll]

Gladion EBE gives me PTSD ngl, idt any UB is that extreme yet

Acc debuff, para, confusion, and some other things

Can't even move

[stable storm]

I want steel weak ub to hell to off type

solely because it would be funny

[paper mural]

The harder ubs are kinda alr hell to off type.

[olive scroll]

They would focus on Lear, yeah
Less people own Lear than Steven

[stable storm]

Especially since they could do a lot of hellish gimmicks for steel since Lear and ASS are immune to everything

[olive scroll]

Circle UB when

[stable storm]

not enough.

[olive scroll]

If you don't set circle, you get KO

[stable storm]

I doubt that

[olive scroll]

Oh typo

[snow spruce]

Steel-weak wont be too bad to offtype as long as you got invested AS steven IMO. He will no doubt partially counter it

[olive scroll]

Yeah, it will be easy if they feature Steven
So they likely promote Lear more

[stable storm]

Dropping all stats aoe and spamming conditions aoe constantly would be fun

[olive scroll]

Para + confusion spam

[snow spruce]

Lears makes you immune to status.. annoying, but cookies hard counter that like on Lucy

[paper mural]

Why not both? Recent ubs feel like promoting 2 units rather than 1.

[stable storm]

don't make it the main gimmick

[olive scroll]

You can choose immunity to status or confusion, but not both

[stable storm]

make it side stuff alongside all the stat drops

and really fat since steel hits hard

does steel do ice comp levels of damage?

[snow spruce]

confusion can always be beaten by good rng + sync nukes dont get confused. But yeah thats annoying too

[olive scroll]

SHY 10

They had a chance to do that with fairy UB, but didn't thankfully

[rigid pivot]

DAMNIT

(This is 1/5 nc rosa btw)

[snow spruce]

I mostly expect Arc Duo + Mix red to be able to reach 17/17, unless they do something silly like Terra Firma 10 or make it so the ghost-weak UB needs BURN specifically and not any status cond.

[olive scroll]

Yeah same

[fossil fjord]

Bruh I should NOT be struggling with this UB
Psychic is my best type
But her stupid paralysis, the timing of the 60% endurance + Nemona's sync, missing a sync crit and thus allowing her a 2nd sync

[valid raft]

Nah, Blizzard with Super Powered 9 on Dana

[rain sorrel]

Ngl, I was shocked that Nemona syncing her Eletric Terrain wasn't a death sentence but then again, I was using NC Blue for this

[rigid pivot]

My paychic is pretty bad but I am getting unlucky

Rosa please stop giving me attack or evasion buffs

[valid raft]

Rosa Buffing Evasion in DCs:
Rosa Buffing Evasion in UBs:

[olive scroll]

I hope next Arc striker is on Cynthia level too

[rigid pivot]

I’m also resetting every time I don’t get an MB refresh on psychic terrian first turn lol

[olive scroll]

Or at least close

[snow spruce]

every type gets an arc cynthia (except dragon..)

[rigid pivot]

By the way it’s better to sync with lusamine first right? It’s what I do and then Rosa

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[rigid pivot]

STOPPPPPPPPP

[olive scroll]

If you reset for 3 psychic terrain, can you tank Nemona sync till her 60%

If you get her to 60% after she sync, then you can save 1 PT

[slow sky]

yes

you want access to her AOE ASAP

[fossil fjord]

FINALLY
Anni May clear

[rigid pivot]

THERE we go

I’m surpised I was only to do it with just 1/5 rosa I thought lusamine would be too weak cause she’s old

[snow spruce]

LuSSamine is still fine ontype

[rotund oasis]

normal deoxys?

[rigid pivot]

I wish lusamine’s multiplier wasn’t damn super duper effective 9 but what can you do

[rotund oasis]

man, if that's 5x5R for both Anni May and SS Steven, i'm dead in the water.

[rigid pivot]

And thus that leaves masked royal the only one I haven’t beaten

But

I remember Nita and Palmer taking me like 5 hours before I got it

I even HAD red and irida I just instantly died first 1st sync unless rosa rolled defense buffs

[rotund oasis]

for me its this nemona ub

[dark dust]

https://youtu.be/mTAzwj7Dz3A

@stable storm as promised

[snow spruce]

Rosa isnt the best on Nita or for the Ice team in general

[rigid pivot]

Well she was my best option at the time since I didn’t have blue, Elaine ruined the queue and chase is weak to ground

And Steven if he was there at the time completely screws the queue

[dark dust]

Iirc there was a Chase + Ice Duo clear

[valid raft]

I wonder if NC Rosa/SS Steven/Bianca can clear it

1/5 NC Rosa to be exact

[dark dust]

Then again you made it work so it works lol

[dark dust]

The more important is Steven's level of investment

[rigid pivot]

Yeah but the amount of rng I had to get drove me insane

Because first off I used sing turn 1 and it HAD to hit and then I needed to not freeze units with blizzard when I didn’t want to and THEN I needed defense buffs so I didn’t get wiped immediately at sync

Oh and don’t forget icy wind can miss so

Yay.

[stable storm]

peak

[silver spruce]

I just finished that battle. God help anybody who doesn't have either rosa or lana

[grizzled portal]

Yes god help us

I'll just wait for more clears

[valid raft]

Is 4/5 not enough?

[dark dust]

I feel it should be enough

[silver spruce]

I got it with Lana, Rosa, and Arc Steven

Had a seperate clear of Zapdos, Deoxys, and Tapu Lele that got very close

like 5% left

[rigid pivot]

Like all my best supports here mainly got completely screwed by EQ + sync

There’s Lucario but the zone timing is annoying

[true lagoon]

you need hs1 on him via grid or lana via ls

[valid raft]

So it is not enough

[true lagoon]

i said or

either one works

[rain sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkX46tuScWc

You can try my run

[snow spruce]

Cynthia + Ice team should be pretty easy, tanky and heals is all you need there + double sinnoh master passives
setting fighting zone after sync is only a minor annoyance, at that point you arctic arrival zone is running out anyway

btw you only have screenshots for blue-avery-cheren, right? no videos ?

[olive scroll]

There's video for some stages

[snow spruce]

on youtube?

[olive scroll]

On my phone

Not sure how I can upload them, maybe streamable

[snow spruce]

streamable works, but it will get deleted after 3+ months
youtube would be best, you can make then unlisted if you want (so not public and only those with the direct links can see them)

or I can get them from streamable and upload them on my channel, if thats ok
https://www.youtube.com/@PMGthings

[olive scroll]

I see, thanks

[paper mural]

Ive just seen the NC Cheren + Avery clear from the in game clear list.
The para on the side that stop another et seemed miraculous.

[olive scroll]

Yeah, I should have denied left instead

I don't see it as a difficult run for that team, so I don't bother playing optimally tbh

[mystic lion]

Ya. I was trying 1/5 ASS, 4/5 Avery, and 4/5 SS Lana.

[small basin]

i think i'm cooked

i can pre sync with velio but then the side sets up e. terrain and wipes me

[olive scroll]

https://streamable.com/o0z3eu

MR

I can upload Thorton as well. Rest are pretty standard, so not sure if anything to show.

[covert marlin]

fucking finally

DIE!!

this is Anabel nightmare again, but 2.0

[silver spruce]

I hadn't thought to use grassy terrain tbh. That's smart

[heady dragon]

pulled ss lana on mix scout for this, still had to 3/5 both her and steven

and reset for terrain mpr like 20 times

[valid raft]

Also, SS Lana huh?

I don't even have her

[true lagoon]

Well have fun with bianca mpr hell

[valid raft]

Thanks

[shrewd marten]

Is nemona kinda sorta annoying as fuck?

Just me?

[snow spruce]

||just like she was in SV games||

[shrewd marten]

Hater smh

[snow spruce]

she is probably nearly as bad to offtype as Nita
ontype is better, but still mildly annoying

Its because sync removes rebuff = instant dps loss and also too bulky sides (who can use E.T. too)

[low coral]

And spam Overdrive

That does a lot more than the usual side that goes for 100 BP moves

60% increase in BP

[fading walrus]

Yeah overdrive was a bad call

If it was discharge the stage wouldn't be that bad

[fading walrus]

I saw only now the Tosakinto community post rofl

[mystic lion]

Woww won on the last hit with an ASS sync thanks to endure saving me. 1/5 ASS, 4/5 Avery, 4/5 SS Lana.

[true lagoon]

it doesnt help that the sides are fucking fat as hell

[mystic lion]

Yes I thought I was golden after taking down the mid, but they are so tanky. SS Lana only does like chip dmg to them.

[true lagoon]

they have uh

500k hp

so its basically nemona x3

:)

also one of them has infinite terrain

like in nita

[snow spruce]

Nemona broke him

[mystic lion]

I should have recorded video and submitted for my first ever google sheet clear. Maybe I will tonight.

[fading walrus]

Got too confident

[warm haven]

It's the worst UB

[fading walrus]

Nita is worse

For me

[lunar sedge]

Whew finally

Won't be able to record until like tomorrow is late

[mystic lion]

Ya that Hippowdan is pure evil.

[snow spruce]

Nita is probably still the hardest overall

Nemona is the biggest 13/13 killer

[warm haven]

Even if Nemona may not be the strongest she's prob the most annoying since you have to remove terrain and apply status change a lot of times while dealing damage and keeping everybody alive

And at least Nita can be flinched

[olive scroll]

what team is Tosakinto trying

poison?

[fading walrus]

Yeah, but presyncing Nita was much much harder while using much better units

[warm haven]

Tech Lapras W

But Nita is also harder to presync because of her endures

[fading walrus]

Doesn't help sandless Nita hits like a semi truck

[covert marlin]

Arc Suit Lear is freaking insane

like he is sooooo much easier to pilot than my 3/5 Arc Cynthia.

[buoyant ice]

back here to ask with a quick question ...

is the new nemona ultimat ebattle annoyign like nita? xd

[covert marlin]

even more

[buoyant ice]

really? damn then def not attempting it in this mood

[covert marlin]

since she is a time bomb

[buoyant ice]

i'll save it for another day (that's y i wanted to ask lol)

[buoyant ice]

so like regigigas?

[covert marlin]

Nope, she resets terrain and rebuff each sync and hits like a truck if there is terrain or you can't debuff her offense.

not a lot of units can keep consistent terrain, rebuff/confusion

[buoyant ice]

sounds annoying alright

i'll def do it a day i have the patience of a saint

xd

thx

[snow spruce]

what is the max amount of total sync damage reduction % you can get from all 3 skill gears ?
if you get godly rolls using blue feathers

I'm thinking if Steel team needs to survive a terrain Nemona sync - thats the only way, with such gear
But even then idk how they finish her off, even if they can survive first sync

[onyx cedar]

general sync damage, is 3% dr

physical or special sync damage, 4%

and by type is 5%

[warm haven]

Can you get all 3 in one gear?

[onyx cedar]

you can get repeated

[warm haven]

So theorically you can get 15x3 = 45% dr?

[snow spruce]

so in theory you can get 45% electric sync dmg reduction ?

[onyx cedar]

yep

[warm haven]

[onyx cedar]

45% sync and regular damage reduction

as typed drs apply for both

[snow spruce]

that would help a lot vs terrain Nemona. But still dont know if thats enough

[final yacht]

How do you think Sycamore solo'd Tornadus

[humble gyro]

RNG heavy? grids?

whats the catch on the new battle?

the gimmick

[marble portal]

is Bianca good overall for the UB

saw that the sheet has a couple clears with her

is that the best play without SS Lana/VElio

[true lagoon]

its basically your only choice

[marble portal]

ah, gotcha

could try the Steven one but he’s only 1/5

SS that is

Arc I have 2/5

[covert marlin]

Arc Steven needs 4/5 to work. Nemona hits like a truck even without terrain so you need debuff on her offensive stats

[mystic lion]

I beat Nemona with 1/5 ASS. I did have 4/5 Avery to debuff att/sp att though.

[marble portal]

The sheet does have a 5/5 Bianca 2/5 SS Steven 1/5 AS Steven clear tho

tho AS didn’t survive, and SS was on endurance iirc

[shrewd marten]

What did he say

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs687O06TsucrD45fmCgvww/community?lb=Ugkxdmv7WLc8EANli1gWuKY_Q4RmLFIiCedL

[shrewd marten]

I get it

The anti gimmickness is so strict it’s not fun

[fading walrus]

It's insanely uncommon tho

I'd say 10% x 3 is already asking a fuckton

And that doesn't help versus moves either

So wild charge will pop your support

Oh wait ig electric DR counts for both

Still, 10*3 is insanely hard to get

[snow spruce]

I just remembered another thing - does Steel team have any source of negative status change besides Stevens rebuff ?
because if not - they would need to have Steven sync after Nemonas sync, which is a huge damage loss obviously, you dont want to sync with the support mid-fight
terrain aside, Nemona is DEFINITELY not doable without the second status change

[fading walrus]

Yeah no

[shrewd marten]

nemona is like

awful

it feels so miserable

[fading walrus]

Yeah it's also a problem with grass units not being as great

And psychic terrain units having no status change

So you can't really gimmick compress

[low coral]

Well, in Steven's case, it's a "support" sync

Especially when paired with Lillie and Lear, the power it carries has quite a punch when gridded for it

[snow spruce]

Yeah, but its still just a normal Haymaker sync. Above most/all other supports, but well below SS Lears sync
and its not even AoE
having to do that on top of already fighting terrain Nemona sounds pretty impossible
that assuming you even survive her first sync

Piercing Blows doesnt ignore this, right ?
"No Negative Status Change: Defense ×3 & Sp. Def ×3"

[stone scarab]

no

thats not a passive that reduces damage, so piercing blows has no effect

[gentle wharf]

Man how’d you clear with that team? Mine can’t even clear 50% health

[humble gyro]

whats the most consistent team?

[formal matrix]

Stoves gaming

[humble gyro]

I couldn’t take a move after their first sync with that team

[formal matrix]

Really? Mine doesn’t take any damage until the sides use overdrive

[humble gyro]

yeah it was an overdrive after the sync

[formal matrix]

Oh is your arc Steven 4/5?

[humble gyro]

3/5

[formal matrix]

Mine has that atk sp atk debuff node

[mystic lion]

I think Gloria has it at 5/5 but she’s the only other one? Yes I ended up syncing with ASS after the anemones first sync. Then you have to kill her before her next sync.

[formal matrix]

Also I exr anni may this morning trying to make her work with arc duo. Too bad I wasted the resource. In the end I used lele and deoxys to clear it

Anni may team went to like 1% on the side and then get cooked by a overdrive

[fading walrus]

I exrd her for rally

Very few tech fields

[formal matrix]

I think arc duo and anni may can definitely do Nemona . Just I’m too lazy to try more now

[snow spruce]

arc duo should be able to do Nemona with anything that can do 2 P. or G. terrains
or even with the defog units too, as long as they arent electric-weak

[solar stirrup]

jerjok

[snow spruce]

Although defog is a bit worse, as it clears ground zone too

[solar stirrup]

can 1/5 nc rosa 3/5 ss lana clear

with another partner

[snow spruce]

ofc, with LuSSa or SS steven
or any strong offtype AoE dps (AS Cynthia, NC Cheren etc.)
as long as there are 2-3 terrains

[solar stirrup]

whats nemonas gimmick again

[distant estuary]

I gave EXR to LuSSamine but could not do it still, then it hit me that I have to advance NC Blue to EXR for his sync to affect all

Ugh

[distant estuary]

Fuck, I can't seem to proc MPR on Bianca terrain move

So unlucky

[stable storm]

then turn it back into pt with Bianca

[stable storm]

Why tf is lussa mentioned before Lear

[low coral]

Why wouldn't she

[stable storm]

Lear isn't that much behind lussa for nemo

and his pre syncs are with less investment

[low coral]

So, he is behind...?

[stable storm]

didn't mean to put that much behind there. Oops

imo Lear isn't behind lussa for nemo

especially since his pre sync is less investment

[low coral]

What would be the investment?

[stable storm]

1/5 rosa and ss lana. Ss lana not exed

[low coral]

With 5/5 SS Lear EXR to compensate the investment? Lol

[stable storm]

fair but I wouldn't say 5/5 pf(tho the 4/5 and 5/5 tiles do not matter for lear pre sync) is that much more than 3/5 mf and the other units were lower investment

[snow spruce]

Lear is fine, but without Avery he doesnt keep his 4/5 buffblock up for long. And then his sync damage might get halved
LuSSa has a solid ontype sync nuke as well as extend range for steady AoE damage

[stable storm]

Lear pre sync nemo doesn't use much buff block or avery?

[snow spruce]

the innate multiplier of Lear is still pretty annoying, even though 4/5 helps with that

[stable storm]

Yes but he should be mentioned alongside lussa for nemo imo. His pre sync had the same partners as lussa but less investment

[paper mural]

With NC Blue or Arc Steven, Lear's innate is actually not annoying to achieve pre sync bc pre sync Nemona only buffs atk & spatk and gets nulify from those 2 supports.

[distant estuary]

I give up

I think it's beatable but it needs a bit much RNG

and timing

Fuck that

[stable storm]

what comp are you trying

[distant estuary]

LuSSamine, Bianca, NC Blue

LuSSamine and NC Blue are both 3/5, Bianca is 5/5

TOO MUCH RNG

Psychic terrain WON'T REFRESH

[stable storm]

Do you have Lear 4/5

[distant estuary]

No and I have him locked, why

[stable storm]

Nvm then

[distant estuary]

It should just be masterfairs that helps us do UB not having to do anything else ... but the optimal one is SS Steven ...

[stable storm]

I assume no SSS?

[distant estuary]

I don't have him either sorry

[stable storm]

ubs are usually designed around whatever the type they are weak to has multiple good units of

[stable storm]

optimal one is ss lana and nc rosa btw

which reminds me, don't you have nc rosa?

[humble gyro]

whats a consistent team?

[stable storm]

the most consistent would be nc rosa, SS Steven and ss Lana

[low coral]

The less investment part sounds pretty arbitrary

Why is higher dupes on him less investment than 3/5 LuSSa?

[formal matrix]

I would consider 1/5 exr lusa low investment

Candies are much rarer than anything else

[humble gyro]

Yeah that doesn’t work

[low coral]

LuSSa would be ideal over Steven, if you have her

[humble gyro]

Not even close

[low coral]

Especially at 3/5

[humble gyro]

How are you supposed to nerf them?

Those guys can’t fall asleep

[low coral]

You don't stun them

[humble gyro]

What do you mean?

[low coral]

You just beat them down normally, focus on damage

Get move ups and try to finish asap

[humble gyro]

Yeah but I can’t take hits

A hyper voice almost KOd me before their first sync

[low coral]

Was it on Electric Terrain?

Because Nemona summons it upon reaching 60% HP

[humble gyro]

Nope

It wasn’t

[low coral]

You have to be prepared and make Lana click Psychic Terrain when that happens

[humble gyro]

I don’t understand

I can’t even get to 60%

[low coral]

Then, that Hyper Voice is doing way more damage than it should

[stable storm]

send a recording of one of your attempts if possible

[low coral]

Especially compared to Wild Charge, as that should be the move that damage Rosa the most

The Hyper Voice should be tame

[humble gyro]

Hyper voice almost KO Lana

[stable storm]

@humble gyro what move levels btw

[formal matrix]

Ex Lana if you can to increase her bulk

[stable storm]

do this as well pls

[formal matrix]

There shouldn’t be much damage to her

Unless her defense are debuffed

Actually that may be the case

[paper mural]

1/5 Lusa to clear Nemona is possible?
The least investment on main dd Ive seen is 1/5 SS Steven.

[formal matrix]

Did your Rosa buff team defenses?

[stable storm]

no

[humble gyro]

That team has a lot of gauge issues

[humble gyro]

3/5 and Lana 2/5

Everyone EX

LVL 150

[stable storm]

Yeah send a recording

[formal matrix]

It’s likely because all enemy aoe moves debuff your team’s defense, and your team doesn’t have defense buffs to keep up

[humble gyro]

This is so annoying

I can’t get the psychic terrain up before the hyper voice

I can’t take the first sync

[small basin]

Then it's psy terrain mpr simulator

Cuz I need one for the start and one for half health

[distant estuary]

Finally cleared now i go bed

[olive scroll]

@snow spruce @warm haven 12/13

[paper mural]

Avery stonk 📈

[olive scroll]

He survived 1% HP to trigger hail

[paper mural]

Im surprised no one do Arc duo + Avery yet

[olive scroll]

There is

12/13 as well I think

Like man always survived

[paper mural]

Lv150?

[olive scroll]

Yeah

[paper mural]

I wonder what he'll get for his awakening

[lunar sedge]

Not really, just need quad que by the second Steven sync

Maybe 1 psychic terrain MPR? For the last stretch to make the last sync hit harder

But I haven't checked if that's wholly necessary

[north chasm]

it hit itself in confusion twice i had no right winning that 😭

[tawdry sail]

Cleared with SS Steven, Arc Steven and SS Lana... not a fun one

[agile wave]

Low invested team clear for Gio

[small basin]

i thought nita was annoying and restrictive and damn nemona takes it to a whole nother level

"i need rebuff!"
clears rebuff

[rain sorrel]

At least it's very predictable when she does it, she only clears it after she syncs. Considering that she's squishy in comparison to most UBs, they want you to clear her pre sync or 1 sync

[small basin]

i just dont have good options that can rush her like that 💔

[rain sorrel]

Also you're not restricted to Rebuff, stuff like Trap and Confusion works but the problem is that they clear those nearly every turn

[small basin]

could maybe try a grass team but my mix red is 1/5 and my ss lyra isn't exr

my best psychic option is like, unironically velio

no lussa or ss lana

[rain sorrel]

My only problem with Nemona is outside of Bianca MPR, I NEEDED to quad queue everytime.

[small basin]

i have lear but he's at 1/5 (i only pulled him for his lodge pair)

[rain sorrel]

No SS Steven?

[small basin]

nope

i regret it every day though

[rain sorrel]

You can probably try VElio + Bianca + tank and grid VElio with Confusion Aggravation and just rush Nemona down ASAP

You're at the mercy of paralyze and Bianca Psychic Terrain RNG tho

[small basin]

yea…

that's what i've been trying and its just psy terrain mpr simulator

later i'll record and show what my usual turn order is, but it's bed time

[rain sorrel]

Good luck man

[small basin]

[spiral summit]

Why he need 4/5 tiles for this fight tho ? Enemy only buff 1 times before Sync and it is turn 4, so you can just Sync turn 3 and snatch later

[spiral summit]

3/5 Lear

[shrewd marten]

Yeah I despise this

I figure out a way to clear but I’m not used to quad queuing anymore

I’ve been spoiled

[spark isle]

So Nemona's ultinate battle just came out

The team i have in mind to deal with her is SS Steven SS lyra (1/5) and either arc steven (1/5) or NC blue any tips?

[rain sorrel]

Rebuffs turn off her defense passives. Remember that she removes it everytime she syncs.

She also summon Electric Terrain whenever she syncs or when she hits her 60% HP threshold.

You need to remove Electric Terrain because she gains way too many benefits

[spark isle]

Yeah that's a big problem i'm facing with this one

I have Arc cynthia for trapping everyone (3/5) but if i add her i won't have anyone to deal super effective since i'll need a terrain changer and a support

[stable storm]

see, Lear pre sync is lower investment than lussa pre sync

I'd say a 3/5 pf is less investment than 3/5 mf

Lear is equal to lussa for this ub personally

[rotund oasis]

Cool story

[void elbow]

--
I wanna die
(not serious dw)

DUDE WHAT IS THIS

IDK IF I CAN DO THIS ANYMORE

[gentle wharf]

Those poor bastards don’t know what hit them lol

Great debut for my finally assembled Paldea team

[gentle wharf]

WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE MISSIONS LOL

[void elbow]

H E L L

I SERIOUSLY WANT THOSE SUBMAS TITLES BUT IDK IF I CAN DO IT ANYMORE

[snow spruce]

team that has 12/13 and only missing Palmer? thats so weird, Palmer is usually never the block

anyway updated

[rotund oasis]

Lol! Team Staring Contest & Team Wide Awake gaming 😮

problem is they've got physical required.

i might have to really do 3 teams then.

[gentle wharf]

Physical requires?

[snow spruce]

there is, but they cant do MR since no status cond.
and Cynthia-Blue-Avery would already be 13/13 right now if anyone bothered to do and post it (cough skinny cough)

[rotund oasis]

they've got wise entry x3

[white ledge]

dena I don't know how to tell you this but I'm pretty sure cruel and unusual punishment is against the united states constitution

[pallid badger]

This current UB is so irritating. How do you all do it?

[trail rain]

SSA Cynthia's sync grid party anti-flinch + Rei for damage + filler to meet the quest conditions.....rinse and repeat

[pallid badger]

What are the F2P options available?

[trail rain]

I did add the Status Immunity lucky skill on all of them but i realized after the second run with Eusine to meet the Johto condition that you should blow up 2 of them and the Sleep spam is negligible

[cosmic token]

Bea maybe

[pallid badger]

I have Riley. Have to fill up 1 support and block 1 spot for filler

[paper mural]

SS Lear's team status protection is GOAT for the new stage.

[cosmic token]

TBH I don’t know. It’s the combo of effects that’s the killer and there’s very little F2P options to counter both.

[trail rain]

[pallid badger]

Riley has unflappable. I just have to give him wide awake. Now for the others

[cosmic token]

Who do you have?

[fading walrus]

Reminder that a decent amount of units have team immunity in certain conditions

Like variety elio, SS mina, SS acerola

[pallid badger]

I’m thinking of Hop

[paper mural]

For f2p use og Lana. Wide Guard can nullify AOE, which is the same as stopping team sleep/flinch.

[alpine quiver]

Alright

[rotund oasis]

Damnit. Haaah. Ss nemona time

[pallid badger]

Oh nice. And she can fill alola and trial giver role

[cosmic token]

I used her for those missions.

[paper mural]

You can do like roll flinch immunity on everyone and only Wide Gaurd move that sleep (or vice versa)

[rustic wolf]

Man that was tuff

Lapras was useless so i guess i can just replace her to get the mission done

[pallid badger]

What were your lucky skills?

[white ledge]

i think my will to live is at an all time low

[gentle wharf]

I

GODDAMN

DID IT

All missions cleared in one go WOO!

[stable tundra]

is that base Olivia

[gentle wharf]

Yes

I forgot they have tough skin lol

Yes that means I’m relying on Eri DPS LMAO

[rustic wolf]

Team healing on Steven, Crit strike on Rei and nothing on lapras

[halcyon mango]

That 300+ atk stats came to use.

[rotund oasis]

Yikes

[stable tundra]

thanks for the idea, imma use Hala instead of Olivia

[rotund oasis]

Thars paldea, gym leader, passionate spirit and johto

[gentle wharf]

Ooh might be better

I wish I had Chuck lol

[pallid badger]

Nice. You managed to get through without unflappable or wide awake

[rotund oasis]

He wouldve nuked this stage but alas i dont have him

[gentle wharf]

I can’t believe a battle made me miss Chuck LMAO

[rotund oasis]

He also has Body Builder too so thats noce

[stable tundra]

[halcyon mango]

These EBE seems almost impossible to clear for a new player

[void elbow]

ME
IM A NEW PLAYER
BUT I NEED THE TITLES!!

[stable tundra]

naturely

EBEs have never been supposed to be beginner friendly

especially with theme skills restriction this time

[earnest panther]

🙂

[stable tundra]

me, an Eri haver:

[white ledge]

...the only freely accessible paldea unit is still dc nemona, isn't it

[stable tundra]

[stable tundra]

yeah

[halcyon mango]

Need either a good strong roster (Arc Pairs)/ pulling featured unit/ good move level on several key units
Yeah, quite tough for new players.

[bright python]

Does anyone have the challenges and gimmicks for the other ebes?

[halcyon mango]

Featured unit might also only work on one specific stage too.

[rotund oasis]

actually

can you even miss one or 2 of the missions and get the title

or is it all?

[halcyon mango]

Time to strategize.

Well, we need to clear all

[bright python]

Survey says: get fucked lmao you need all of them

[rustic wolf]

ok unflappable on Rei makes this wayyy easier

[rotund oasis]

honestly i've 2 units that can team anti flinch or team anti sleep but ugh

my Rei is 1/5 so that's an impossible team 😦

[rustic wolf]

my rei is 2/5, but i don't think the extra sync tiles matter

[halcyon mango]

1/5 Rei cant check Exeggutor or Lapras easily.

[earnest panther]

I've been told one of the battles requires adaman, X to Doubt tbh

[halcyon mango]

I wholely agreed with what Linkable shared above.
Tho my problem is with Lapras.

Adaman huh

[earnest panther]

If you need rebuff and sun, Ncleaf is right there.

[halcyon mango]

I will need to use arc and ss morty instead for that

[earnest panther]

I can definitely see Sina and Dexio being recommended but like..... eh?

For the other battles

[halcyon mango]

Yeah, basically said pairs could check the stage's gimmick with ease
First and second ebe are for ss emmet and ss ingo(?)
This one is for eri

Dexio
Sina
Adaman
Irida
Maybe?

[earnest panther]

Next ones will be sina and dexio, then adaman and irida

Weird there would be two ices ones tho

[halcyon mango]

[gentle wharf]

So you’re saying

Ice Ice Baby

[stable storm]

my only limited ice is grusha lmao

[gentle wharf]

Yeah I’m guessing them

Two Kalos and two Sinnoh…

What are Dexio and Sina’s niches again?

[void elbow]

[gentle wharf]

For Adaman I’m guessing physical based, grass weakness, sun and terrain. Anything else he does? Rebuff?

[halcyon mango]

Adaman can do grass debuff, yes

Hm I dont remember what Dexio and Sina do

[gentle wharf]

Irida is the same but Ice zone and hail haha

Speed Debuff maybe?

[formal matrix]

Sina has piercing blow

On her b move

[gentle wharf]

That doesn’t narrow it down LMAO

[formal matrix]

Might have some stupid effect on EBE

[gentle wharf]

Tough Skin 15

[formal matrix]

Dexio just can debuff sp def

[halcyon mango]

Might be another kind that needed status condition or interference then to be damaged

[halcyon mango]

[noble sapphire]

Well, as least this fight didn't tempt me to summon for Eri.

Would Part 4 be easy with a team of Adaman/SS-Acerola/SS-Lyra?

[paper mural]

Part 4 is pure grass weak. Need physical dmg, def debuff and weather change to non rain.
Part 5 is pure Ice weak. Need special dmg, speed and other debuff (Opponents have Fluid Fortification, while speed buff will make them hit harder).
Part 6 is pure psychic weak. Need special dmg, spdef debuff and clean posion.

[void elbow]

..........wtf

Grass weak?
Ice weak?
Psychic weak?
FUCK THIS SHIT IM DONE-

[pearl pewter]

beaten f2p

gets johto, gym leader and bodybuilder

…or did someone already beat me to it

[noble sapphire]

So, I assume Parts 5 and 6 are supposed to be done with Sina & Dexio.

Part 4 feels like an Adaman situation.