Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[summer bridge]

LMAO I'M DUMB

All this time I thought NC Blue debuffed the opponents defense too lol

Thank you

[formal matrix]

Make sure to pick Serena’s rainy mind blowing strike 2

[summer bridge]

Okay. I swapped her and Blue out for NC Leaf and Ash but if that's better I'll go for it

[small basin]

That debuffs sp def, not def

[small basin]

He can once on sync at 3/5

[formal matrix]

Wait so the condition is to debuff def not both def? I didn’t notice that lol

[small basin]

Just defense yeah

[twin warren]

Is there any good way to view the UB doc on mobile? It won’t let me scroll so I can only view the first 4

[formal matrix]

Google sheet app

[valid raft]

No one to AoE defense drop

[paper mural]

He can only -2 at most in the entire battle but the opponents will buff more than that.

Build team around ArcCynthia. She changes weather alr so no need another pair to do it, and even at 1/5 she can off type things quite easily.

[true lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2FpJNWfZFY did anyone post this yet

[faint goblet]

Following up:
I tried it. It took a lot of learning but I managed to win! Thanks.

[tawdry bone]

I'm struggling to kill palmer, any advice ? I'm running neo Bianca, rei and neo rosa

[lone bramble]

Move levels?

[tawdry bone]

2, 3, 3

[lone bramble]

Alright so sync with Rosa, queue Bianca bmove right after, use TMs on Rei for the first 3 turns (TM, guage boost x2), save SEUN from TM for Rei's bmove after you have supp ex and -3 rebuff.

If Rosa has Adr LS, you should be able to sync with Rei right after Bmove

Actually, I have a 1/5 Rei, 1/5 Rosa + 3/5 Geeta clear in the clear sheet. Bianca can easily replace Geeta there, especially since both Rei and Bianca are 3/5.

[tawdry bone]

I see

What do I do to get to that first sync as stupid as that might sound

[lone bramble]

Relic Song - Sacred Sword - Rei TM

Relic Song - Sacred Sword - Move Guage Boost

Rosa Sync - Bianca B-move - Move Gauge Boost

It would help if Rosa has Adr here.

Rosa TM - Unova Solidarity - Rei bmove

Rei sync

Don't quad queue after Rei sync, use Rosa TM again to stack +4 PMUN for the next Rei bmove

[tawdry bone]

This doesn't get rosa to sync

Also unova circle runs out the move before sync

[lone bramble]

Give me 2 mins I'll record the run for you

[forest aurora]

Managed to clear it this time around! Survived the Sync Nuke with NC Red and countered with a Sync nuke of my own. (Was extremely lucky it killed, if it didn’t I’d instantly lose cause red got paralyzed on the sync or something)

(Team was 3/5 NC Red, 3/5 Irida and 5/5 Melony)

[lone bramble]

Yeah i messed up a little. Start with Bianca TM on first turn mb. You'll get to sync in 2 move cycles.

[tawdry bone]

OK OK ty sorry

[tawdry bone]

Tm before relic?

Still can't do it lmao maybe I'm just not ready

[lone bramble]

Here you go

My Rosa is 3/5 but I removed her grid for this (she does need Adrenaline LS though). Rei and Bianca are on CS2, let me know if you wanna see their grids.

[tawdry bone]

Could i see the grids?

[lone bramble]

Then sync nodes are useless on Bianca. All you need is defense destroyer and furious brawn.

[tawdry bone]

Ah nuts dd is locked behind 3/5

[lone bramble]

I thought Rosa was 2/5 and the others were 3/5

But anyway Bianca doesn't need 3/5

[tawdry bone]

Ah no sorry

[lone bramble]

Just pickup Furious Brawn

That should be enough

[forest aurora]

Man, I’m realizing this Kanto EBE will be nigh impossible. My plan was to use SS Nemona until I saw Leaf can’t have stats dropped while it’s sunny.

[true lagoon]

just replace weather

[forest aurora]

It mainly sucks cause Nemona could’ve double dropped attack and defense but that’s contingent on Sun

[true lagoon]

she doesn’t need sun to use her b move

[forest aurora]

You’re not wrong, it’s just frustrating. She’s way less meaningful w/o sun

[true lagoon]

do you have sstr/ss diantha or geeta

all of them should work with relative ease

[lone bramble]

For Rosa, the only useful tile is this one

[true lagoon]

(well ss diantha is a main counter but worth asking)

[forest aurora]

I have SS Diantha and geeta, but Diantha is pretty much uninvested which makes it really hard to use

[true lagoon]

try using geeta with a weather setting support and nuker

geeta has -3 def on b move and has good aoe dps

[forest aurora]

Geeta doesn’t set weather though… idk where you’re getting that from

Just poison zone

[true lagoon]

she has defense drops

[lone bramble]

*with a weather setting support

[forest aurora]

Oooh.

[true lagoon]

if shes 3/5 you can grid for ruthless toxin to fish for extra debuffs outside of b move

and she can most likely just nuke the stage

[forest aurora]

…that might be a problem. Who tanks if I have those two?

I don’t have a weather setting support unit.

[lone bramble]

No AS Cynthia or C Silver either?

[true lagoon]

if geeta is 3/5 then she should be enough by herself

to just run another weather unit

[forest aurora]

The only support sync pair I have that could rain dance is an egg sync pair of MC & Quaxly

[forest aurora]

I wish. Luck hasn’t been on my side with recent pulls.

[forest aurora]

Geeta is sadly only 1/5. if I had the field candy to get her to 3/5 I would since she’s my only field sync pair

At best I can make her 2/5 w/o dipping into general 5* candy

[tawdry bone]

Okay I did it ! Ty @lone bramble

Idk what I did differently but I ended up finishing him off with sync lol

[lone bramble]

Geeta is 3/5 right?

Should be doable with a better support, or managing WTZ better. I let them run out during crucial moments.

[true lagoon]

they said she isnt

so uh

idk what to do anymore

[lone bramble]

Ahh, then idk

[forest aurora]

Yeah, I’m not thinking it’s possible for me to do. I do have the resources to make SS Diantha viable, but I highly doubt rock zone last to win the fight without her 5/5 passive

And I was kinda hoping I could save those resources for the off chance I do pull an arc suit

[lone bramble]

Just in case, can you send a screenshot of your damage dealers?

Anyone you have at 3/5?

[valid raft]

Last minute clear and yes, I on-typed all 3 weaknesses

[forest aurora]

Trying to figure out how to clear out the junk pairs

So I can send a screenshot

[lone bramble]

Filter for 6EX maybe

Since we're looking for someone who's already invested

[forest aurora]

Internet is not happy with me trying to get these things up…

Most of the regular gacha pairs are all 5/5, but aside from Bertha I don’t think they’ll be of much help.

[valid raft]

What are you doing again?

[forest aurora]

We were trying to think if the Kanto EBE was feasible for me to do, but just doesn’t seem like it.

I don’t have a good enough sweeper to solo it so I can have space to change weather.

[valid raft]

No pressure, but you got less than 5 minutes to complete it

[forest aurora]

There’s not much point in trying if I don’t have the tools to make it even possible. If the problem weathers were anything but sun and hail it’d be easy…

[lone bramble]

Yeah

You could try Marnie but time isn't in your favor

[forest aurora]

I’m just glad I was able to clear all the others before it finished. 4/5 EBEs isn’t too shabby.

[valid raft]

I still find it funny that I was able to duo the Kantrio EB with SS Kris and SS Diantha

Goodbye EBs

Need a mod to unpin my guide

[snow spruce]

hell yeah, another one. Updated
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733

[rich heron]

Wht grid should I choose on red to beat leon UB

[opal raptor]

I’m still shocked I was able to beat every EB with my limited roster

[rich heron]

He is my lone terrain setter

Is this fine

[hearty cedar]

He can be used differently based on the stage he's up against

[rich heron]

I am doing this for leon UB

And he is my lone terrain setter

I saw a chase, nc blue and sstr run

I can't find it anywhere now

It was in game

[hearty cedar]

He's enough as a lone setter if you have field ex on him

Use this and bring another speed debuffer

[paper mural]

Beware Leon clears wtz when he hits his HP threshold (50%? check yourself from pin), so don't waste a terrain right before your dmg is gonna cross it.

[uncut drum]

It's 60%

If you have SST Red Leon becomes so much easier

[fading walrus]

Not really

Sun on her isn't a must

The circle can be much more meaningful

If sun runs out whatever

[fading walrus]

This, she can destroy alone without weather change

[fading walrus]

60% iirc

[river prawn]

Another sand Nita clear

I don't have NC Cheren but in theory I think it should be possible to do it with him instead of SS Diantha

Especially because he does actual damage instead of rock tomb

[fast pendant]

Nice

[river prawn]

https://youtu.be/NnYVuAikk5c

I had a run die because my game crashed right at the last sync

I don't think I had that before

[fast pendant]

I think it's possible with Cynthia but I haven't found the right rotation yet

[river prawn]

I could try SS May instead of Diantha

Only difference is trip wire 1 vs trip wire 3

Less passive healing too

[dark dust]

I'll try Cheren

[fast pendant]

May adds flinch so should be possible as well

[river prawn]

Oh yeah, but mine is 3/5

A burn would also help with surviving

You know who else might be possible? 5/5 Rei

He has trip twice 9, honestly why have I never seen him used against Nita

And also a rock slide spamming Raihan

All these are in the realm of possible I think

[dark dust]

You have my attention

I will have an attempt

[river prawn]

I think it's possible with my 3/5 SS May but it demands perfect rotation

And Lear not having 100% sync crit is annoying

But the sides will stay alive so you need to deal with them like in the NC Silver version

[river prawn]

Sides are just too much

But is kinda close

[fast pendant]

Sync with Steven after taking the center

It helps to keep your team healthy

[river prawn]

Problem is by this time the circles are gone, no passive healing outside tt9

I don't think the synchro healing would keep up

And Diantha debuffs -3 at a time, May is only -2

But it does show that you can afford much more on Nita than what it may seem, SS May is not exactly a good speed debuffer

5/5 Rei and Raihan are 100% better

Raihan even has sand multipliers lol

With a grid like this, should have no gauge problems either

[low coral]

Even when the MGA runs out, you think?

Duraludon is really slow

[river prawn]

Lear can pick circle mg 2

You spend most gauge at the start, later you juggle between B move, circle and such

So a lot of free move cycles, I am optimistic but again I can't test it in practice if it's true

In theory, Duraludon brings sizeable damage to the sides, and of course given he always spams rock slide he will keep them at neutral or negative speed

So Lear should have no problem killing before Nitas 2nd sync

[low coral]

The damage is kinda low

But prob enough chip

Being a three gauge standard move Strike is so unfair today lol

[river prawn]

It is low

[valid raft]

More like being a non-B Move

[river prawn]

But better than what Diantha did in my clear

[low coral]

You can deal with it if you got a good 4 gauge

[river prawn]

Lear doesn't need much chip, Steven already hits middle for 10k+

[low coral]

Like Psycho Boost

[river prawn]

I thought that Make it Rain would have higher base BP

Because it lowers spatk

[low coral]

It follows the normal formula

Same BP as Clanging Scales

[river prawn]

Oh well, it's still high

[low coral]

Psycho Boost is higher due to low accuracy and lowering two stages

And then it hits the common cap of 200 BP

[river prawn]

Like V Create

[low coral]

Yup

To get above 200, I think you either have to be a Normal-type move or a B move

[river prawn]

Anyways, it would be funny to see Raihan clear Nita under sand

[silver spruce]

He’d need a really good partner for that

[river prawn]

Luckily those exist

[silver spruce]

Yes but you’d still need a good support and a good speed debuffer

[river prawn]

Raihan is the speed debuffer

[silver spruce]

Oh og Raihan

I thought you meant flygon

[rich heron]

Can 1/5 ss hau , 3/5 sstr and nc blue beat leon?

[river prawn]

what move level is Blue

oh I see

If you mean both are 3/5 then yes

[stable tundra]

Yes, i cleared him with that team

[river prawn]

wait I think I'm cooking

[warm haven]

with that team with only red at 3/5 is enough

but volkner would make it easier

[river prawn]

This is actually much easier than SS Diantha

[rich heron]

1/5 ss hau I said

[river prawn]

I meant Blue

[rich heron]

Blue is 3/5

And also sstr

[misty moon]

move levels on metagross?

[warm haven]

so they just need a deadweight speed debuffer

[river prawn]

4/5

[river prawn]

basically yeah, not even -2 all the time

just someone who can do -1 constantly and -2 with luck

like Lodge Volo could slot in here if you make him survive first sync

[warm haven]

he should be able to resists it, you can stall the sandstorm before the first sync unless you get the to the endure

[river prawn]

yeah the rotation won't be 1:1 the same

but very much doable

[warm haven]

how's the matchup against noland? can they brutforce it with the 3rd dying first turn?

[river prawn]

SS Lear alone is enough with Lana and another pair that has 2+ ways to avoid fissure

Now them together, I would need Arc Cynthia heavily invested

or just NC Cheren

[rich heron]

Should I take max conductivity with ss hau?

[valid raft]

You mean SST Red

[rich heron]

I mean

With ss hau in team

[river prawn]

No

[rich heron]

Ohk

[snow spruce]

with those Nita pairs (Courtney, SS Diantha etc.) - no, not Noland
only with NC Cheren, AS Cynthia or anti-Noland units like Lana
they also wouldnt be able to do Anabel (except with Cynthia or Irida)

[river prawn]

You mean Anabel in general?

[warm haven]

they already beat anabel with tech lapras

[river prawn]

yeah was gonna say

Winona too if it adds something

even less debuffs technically

[warm haven]

thank you for the clear

i believe in tech lapras supremacy

[river prawn]

its my only 5 star eggmon

[warm haven]

once we get an OP steel zone setter, steel will be at least a top 3 team

they dont have zone and already beat the strongest UBs, only needing help for the gimmicks

[snow spruce]

no I meant with the same units that already beat sand Nita

[river prawn]

makes sense you are interested in the universal teams

I can attempt tech lapras Nita?

[snow spruce]

isnt that the ultimate goal of every strong UB team

[fast pendant]

No

[river prawn]

that is not sand Nita anymore

but it should be possible

[warm haven]

if tech lapras could beat anabel so can lodge volo

[snow spruce]

but why not just Irida ? she works for both Nita and Anabel

[river prawn]

Tech Lapras is easier fwiw

[final yacht]

isnt lodge volo less bulky

[river prawn]

I'm just trying to lower the third pairs strength to the minimum

to show how poweful just the duo is

I don't have the pairs or investment to try all with the same team

[river prawn]

would want EX I guess

and gears

[fading walrus]

Why not tech gyara too then, for funny flinch gaming

[river prawn]

He can too yeah

[snow spruce]

I dont think all with the same team is possible for SS Lear + AS Steven right now. Too much different things needed for Nita, for Anabel, for Noland

[river prawn]

dont have a strong tech gyara sadly

[warm haven]

avery might work but i need to try something

[true lagoon]

if only oleana had wtz

[river prawn]

Runner mentioned that Cynthia is maybe possible on Nita

and I can kinda see it

[warm haven]

yeah

[snow spruce]

in theory maybe .. but I'll believe it when I see it done. Sounds nightmarish tbh

[warm haven]

oh i believe they might

flinch to get circle, and then use Classy Chilly Reception

hm but idt they have the damage to rush it fast enough

[limpid egret]

Ive managed to beat Lucy, are there any other "easy" UBs?

[fading walrus]

Argenta

Noland

[limpid egret]

Or i guess a UB that is fairly counterable? Lucy just required antitoxin and good units

[fading walrus]

Darach too is fine if you have some recent monster or invested bertha

[limpid egret]

I have both Arc cynthia and steven

Getting carried through harder game content with them

So is the strat for argenta to have a wtz setter to remove rain and psychic terrain?

[sour elk]

Terrain is more forgiving, if you use psychic units like SS Steven that's more of an advantage to you

But yeah it's generally easier to beat her by removing rain, although some really strong teams can just power through

[limpid egret]

I dont have any great psychic units outside F2P

[sour elk]

I wonder how well 2/5 Arc Cynthia and SS Serena together would do on Argenta, I think they have good chances to clear with either Arc Steven or SS Morty as support

[limpid egret]

I can attempt that

[low coral]

It shouldn't be hard at all, I believe

SS Serena already can beat Argenta under rain with multiple teams

Cynthia should just make it easy

[limpid egret]

Defeated sides but only got center to 55% run one

Used ss morty but maybe arc steven works more here

[limpid egret]

Any of my units hit that criteria?

[low coral]

Try SS Morty / SS Erika / SS Serena

And make sure to constantly restrain her

[limpid egret]

Alright i can try that

Never used ss erika before ill have to read their kit

[low coral]

It's a simple kit

But sun must be up all the time

Sunless SS Erika is one of the absolute worst units in the game, no kidding, but she's pretty solid under sun

[limpid egret]

Got it

Ill have 4 sun sets though, and possibly more if morty gets restore rng but i highly doubt i need more than that

[low coral]

I would still run MPR on both Erika and Morty, to be safe

[limpid egret]

Is erikas sync good or will i just be offtyping with ss serena

[low coral]

It's good, but single target

[limpid egret]

Hm got it

[limpid egret]

Yeah i tried my best there but both times i couldnt get center under even 50%

Maybe theres something too unoptimized in my build but idk

[sour elk]

Do you have a screen recording app? It might help if you record your run, we could try to give you advice based on the troubles you're facing

[limpid egret]

I do

Im unsure who to use sync with though

I tried SS Serena -> SS Morty than SS Erika so that theres 4x Sync Buff

That was my best attempt

[rich heron]

Finally it's over
Now just my Noland UB

Left

Red sync lowered leon hp to 60%
I got caught 2-3 times in it

Then I thought to use fairy wish for that terrain needed thing

[fading walrus]

That's one of the easiest

[rich heron]

Ye

Just try to avoid those lives

Moves

Idt if I have pairs who can clear it

[fading walrus]

Lana + Falkner can make a lot of pairs work

[rich heron]

Oh

Have to ex Lana or only falkner is fine?

Falkner is exed

[river prawn]

tech Lapras is very much possible on Nita with Steel duo, it's just that Icy Winds 95% accuracy does not want to cooperate

in other news, Avery action https://youtu.be/U5yiT1sNEJ4?si=gCRI-E1xfy14ggh3

lol even Nita is there

[warm haven]

finally my avery shilling worked

[limpid egret]

Was going to record but i think this team just cant win this at all

If 1 attempt using the other team with no prep almost won and this one failed 5+ times with different set up i highly doubt itll work

[warm haven]

this is insane

[solar dagger]

I am trying to beat any of the ultimate battles before they rotate out but I don't know if I have what it takes. Can anybody help me team build for any of them? I'm relatively new so my account is pretty weak. I also have 2 4 star and 2 5 star BP unit tickets if any of them are helpful.

[silk tide]

UBs don’t rotate

[solar dagger]

Oh sorry I meant the top regional battles that are part of the current event. I think it ends tomorrow

[rich heron]

Man
Leon missed his both inferno

One from paralyzed , second from confusion

[solar dagger]

Actually nevermind it ended yesterday and I was confused. Thank you anyway

[limpid egret]

Managed to beat it

Arc Steven / SS Serena / Arc Cynthia

Probably was 1 hit away from death

I had sync next tho so idk maybe it wouldve been fine either way

Didnt get flinched at all this run though, so good rng on my part helped

[pliant jewel]

wow these are very nice showcases.

3/5 Lear 0/5 Avery

[solar dagger]

Am I anywhere near any ultimate battle?

[pliant jewel]

Many ultimate battles expect you to use multiple 3/5 units to clear. Typically you'll want a full set of type gear, sync grids, and lucky skills as well.

[mighty plover]

is this run easy? (vs Nita)

[low coral]

Needs attention, but yeah, not hard

[mighty plover]

because i literally can't do the red/iridia/blue team

[paper mural]

I like Avery finally shows his usefulness of compressing Psychic terrain + special circle in one, but needs the whole team sacrifice their initial HP to half just to activate the first Hail still feels annoying not gonna lie.
Like the Anabel fight is literally potion MPR check bc of this.

[fading walrus]

Not hard if Bede is rolexd

[mighty plover]

he is luckily

[fading walrus]

As it lets you do a very big funny

You can even exrless

But the sprint exr makes the fight funnier

[mighty plover]

watch me still lose

[fading walrus]

Well

Nita is the stage that requires the most attention imo

Her and Leon

So yeah it's easy to fuck up still

[snow spruce]

well using nc blue is better and easier than using NC Bede. Just copy some video that uses blue
And anything that Bede does there - Chase/SSA Cynthia do better
there is also Grusha who can block Nitas crit EQ, useful

[mighty plover]

i tried but no dice

also mfw i have none of the other pairs lol

time to try bede

[crude kite]

i really feel like this team might be able to beat darach, maybe 1/5 nc silver might be the problem???

[paper mural]

Damage wise 1/5 NC Silver is prob enough. If you can't clear it pre 2nd sync just roll Vigilance on everyone.
The bigger issue is did you spread sandstorm and not let it disappear once in the entire battle?

[north chasm]

this is more lear shilling than anything

his grid expansion is pretty great

avery/lear/c rosa being able to beat 4 of the harder UBs is really good

tbh. they might be able to do all of them

actually idk about noland

but the rest

[warm haven]

they're not gonna beat leon

[north chasm]

i be forgetting leon exists

[crude kite]

i did have sandstorm, but it disappeared a few times, how do i make sure it doesn’t disappear?

[warm haven]

maybe if they use NC Blue instead of rosa they could beat all UBs

[north chasm]

lear is actually cracked now

one of the craziest upgrades w grid

[river prawn]

https://youtu.be/ml2mBt5bXx4
Here the Courtney run

The same idea can be applied to fully invested Rei and Raihan, and Lodge Volo

If anyone is willing to try

[paper mural]

Err just spread the use.
NC Silver's passive makes any sandstorm has almost 2 sync duration, and he summons sandstorm again after his 1st sync, so Silver should sync 2nd after support and don't waste Bertha's sandstorm before all Silver's sand is used up.
Also Bertha's Stealth Rock can shut down Darach's passive so maybe save it until even sandstorm all run out.

[river prawn]

Lodge Volo is tricky to keep alive, but with the right gears it should be no problem

of course EX too

and you can just stall sync to not be in sandstorm

[north chasm]

DAMN

[river prawn]

Nita is being cooked today

[north chasm]

lear cooks nita in both his outfits

[fading walrus]

Lear with EXR is really strong yea

He was being held back by ST sync and average/low damage ST

So exR fixes the sides problem

[north chasm]

the snatch no stat up field effect tile is also huge

[fading walrus]

Yea

Sadly, 4/5

[paper mural]

Avery also finds his soulmate here.

[fading walrus]

Only 2 more copies from mix thanks game 🙏

[crude kite]

ah so save bertha’s stealth rock until all sandstorms are used up?

[north chasm]

yeah he works very well with avery

[paper mural]

Or bank on sandstorm mpr luck. Never let Darach side runs out any wtz or damage field and you're good imo.

[river prawn]

I honestly think if Anni Lillie 2.0 wasnt ground weak the steel trio could attempt Nita

Trip wire 2 and rotate Sunsteel Strike on everyone

after Nitas sync it would become tough keeping up with sides, but they would be almost dead

[uncut drum]

Yes, and very easily at that

[river prawn]

The Tech Lapras saga (he couldn't stay alive on all 6)

[warm haven]

[river prawn]

And 7/11 is possible with Nita

[small basin]

best eggmon 🔛🔝

[warm haven]

omg i didnt expect for it to work on thorton

[small basin]

we love lappy

[warm haven]

or darach

[river prawn]

Darach vas tricky

But I synced with Steven 3 times, first hail cast was before Darachs 2nd sync

So kinda stall him out a bit

[warm haven]

ah right

i guess palmer and noland are impossible

but who else?

[river prawn]

Giovanni no way

Only Nita I think

[warm haven]

not even stalling the first bar to wait for his sync?

[river prawn]

I can give it a try

[warm haven]

the strat with sst red + nc blue is to wait for gio to sync before reaching the first bar

and then rushing it all

gio basically gets busy using his tms as you beat him

[river prawn]

I know his rotations and how you can abuse it, but I fear 100s of Hail is not enough

It goes away very fast, everyone takes hail chip

[warm haven]

but you dont need hail

[river prawn]

triple defenses then?

[warm haven]

oh he needs WTZ?

i forgot, yeah

[river prawn]

Giovanni with his fat hp demands a lot of field uptime

[warm haven]

leon is out of the question too i guess

[river prawn]

yeah

but I mean 6 or 7/11 is good enough

[crude kite]

me on my way to hatch and invest in a tech lapras now

[vale pivot]

so
latios cooked me

i have this team but ss wally 3/5

[warm haven]

oh yeah, thats better than most WTZ setters

[river prawn]

kinda because there is no hail UB

lucky circumstances

and icy wind for Nita

[warm haven]

now just wait for alolan red & lapras for hail extension + mpr + status + protect

[vale pivot]

entei, landorus and latios cooks me

help

[river prawn]

landorus cooks everyone dw

[vale pivot]

Cook me
And i have nc red and Irida

[snow spruce]

Hail UB is gonna be

[warm haven]

sandstorm and rain already are safe from gatekeep due to the existing UBs setters, only hail is missing it's UB to see if they get filtered

[river prawn]

rain is most lucky

[warm haven]

So far is hail > rain > sandstorm > sun

[river prawn]

their UB hits like wet napkin

[warm haven]

yeah

and dena hates sun

2 fire UBs and darach spams heatwave too

[high harbor]

I wanna try this team with nc rosa instead of SSA cynthia, but I cant find the grids for silver and red https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPu4BC2gVE

[low coral]

It's at the very end of the video

[river prawn]

Shame I didn't record it

It was a flawless run, everyone is alive even

So confirmed thirds for this duo on Nita are: Irida(who would have guessed), SS Diantha, Courtney and Tech Lapras

[high harbor]

and doesnt work, who would've guessed

yup, gotta wait for arc steven to hopefully show up or for nc blue when he returns in december/january

[river prawn]

thinking about it, a cheap gimmick checker that would clear a lot of UBs with Arc Steven and SS Lear is Bertha

the not doable ones are Palmer, Noland, Nita and Leon

[formal matrix]

Is the tech lapras 5 star or 5 20/20 need for clear?

[river prawn]

just 5 star

I am not deranged

[warm haven]

i was thinking about gordie, just ofc they cant beat anabel

he has max guard so noland may be possible

[river prawn]

Giovanni would be a problem again

rock dmg field is 100s

[formal matrix]

I have a hypothesis, that arc Steven arc Cynthia and classic elesa might clear all UBs (in principle classic elesa checka everything)

[river prawn]

That is a good guess

[uncut drum]

If they can pass Nita I think they could do it

Noland could be tough without proper move usage

[river prawn]

Noland is identical to Oleana situation

Elesa brings more countdown even

[snow spruce]

Classic Elesa is like Oleana except with less damage and without AoE debuffs (but with Light Screen)

[uncut drum]

Then they can probably do all of them

I only see Nita and Noland as the roadblocks for this team

[final yacht]

Lmaoo

[river prawn]

Nita is possible

She has staggering 4 to help

[snow spruce]

Noland would be hard as Arc Cynthia DOES need a little bit of help/extra damage to kill steal from the left side. And Elesa damage = very low

[river prawn]

just need to figure out the right way

[formal matrix]

Classic elesa also has additional 20% chance to debuff everything by 1 more

[river prawn]

More rng

[snow spruce]

"only"? Nita and Noland are THE roadbocks. Palmer and Leon arent a problem at all in comparison
and the other 7 were already duo'd

[uncut drum]

That's why I said they're the only roadblocks

Everything else will be cleared much more easily

[river prawn]

Noland is maybe more of a roadblock than Nita

because as long as you have flinch you can cheese Nita in a way

[snow spruce]

well yeah but if you cant do both then it wont work. You basically only need to worry about Nita and Noland, but they are tough

does Elesa only have 1 damage guard ?

[uncut drum]

Nita can debuff Nita's speed which is good at least and flinch

[uncut drum]

Think she only has her max move

[snow spruce]

Nita is almost easier to deal with than Noland at this point. For these all UB clears

[low coral]

No, Arc Steven and Arc Cynthia have good Nita matchups

And a lot of the recent ones are being made around them

[river prawn]

Agree

[low coral]

While Steven is not good vs Noland

[formal matrix]

Can someone try classic elesa + arc duo vs noland. I’m so curious. In principle elesa checks everything

[river prawn]

Looking at the Skinny run the Gunk shots mattered

can max countdown 2 compensate?

[snow spruce]

you would have to hope that Elesas def debuffs would boost Cynthias damage enough that it compensates for gunk shot damage..

otherwise I dont see it

you are better off trying anni Raihan

[river prawn]

has no one tried him yet

havent seen a Nita clear either

[snow spruce]

actually .. 2 other candidates are Greta and Avery - both have max guards
Great debuffs speed
Avery has buff block

I literally just look at all max guard users in pomatools

[high harbor]

it sucks how nc rosa isnt that useful in UBs, its mostly arc steven and nc blue, with a few instances of her and other supports in certain battles

[formal matrix]

Actually never mind, noland is immune to paralysis

[river prawn]

Both kill Nita pretty sure

[formal matrix]

Rip classic elesa propaganda

[snow spruce]

max guard = chance for Noland too .. rest is easy

[river prawn]

Avery has damage for Noland too

Greta though

[snow spruce]

so potentially 7 Arc Duo teams with Avery/Greta..
I dont have either of them though

[final yacht]

There's a bunch of pairs with speed drops and damage guard

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RkYo7MxAVNzaWTZdzBkMLvZ1xvc2O7BCwLoE8m1k4N4/edit?gid=784604330#gid=784604330

[river prawn]

But returning to Anni Raihan, on paper his Nita matchup is great

with the arc duo of course

[warm haven]

Avery +steel duo can't beat nita because no speed debuffs

[warm haven]

Ah but arc duo can for sure

Anni raihan too

[snow spruce]

so for Arc Duo - candidates:
Avery
Greta (?)
Anni Raihan (I'm not about him cause no speed debuffs IIRC and I think he can only do sun once ?)

[river prawn]

he can do sun twice

solar sync

[warm haven]

Yeah

[snow spruce]

oh yeah. .but is that enough ?

and you have to give up a Cynthia sync

[warm haven]

In any case Cynthia would debuff nita to - 6

[warm haven]

Doesn't matter because raihan has support EXR

[river prawn]

more than enough, I think 1 sun is already a chance, 2 is sure thing

[warm haven]

So Cynthia can sync third

[snow spruce]

and for Noland ? max guard + stack PMUNs on Cynthia, hoping she can solo Noland with her dmg ?

[warm haven]

Yeah

[river prawn]

He has ramp

every sandstorm is -1

and max countdown 2

[warm haven]

Or you can let Steven die and sync with raihan + max guard to resist the EQ

[snow spruce]

so if someone has fully invested Arc Duo and any of those - feel free to try and report

[river prawn]

Avery 3/5 is enough for all of these

I think

[warm haven]

They should try arc duo + Gordie

[formal matrix]

Also noland has lessen confusion 8. Does it mean, bede has a chance if he confuses noland

[warm haven]

What, I thought noland was inmune to confusion

[river prawn]

Same

[formal matrix]

I don’t know. I just look at the chart

[snow spruce]

he is immune

[warm haven]

@final yacht youre the expert is that correct?

[snow spruce]

to confusion, stuns, paralsysis etc. anything that can cause his Fissure to fail

[final yacht]

uh ?

[warm haven]

Noland has confusion resits and no inmunity in the doc

[snow spruce]

so basically Avery and anni Raihan for Arc Duo.
Elesa is out and Greta probably lacks damage/dmg boosting for Noland too

[final yacht]

me when the pastebin doesnt show this specific immunity

anyway there's no error guys stop photoshopping the doc to make me look silly

[river prawn]

but what is the amount of pairs that do 10/11 with them

[snow spruce]

double digit number probably. I think 15+ ? maybe 20+ ?

eggmons

[north chasm]

can avery/lear/c rosa do 9 out of 11?

they wont get leon or noland i dont think

[river prawn]

those are out of question ye

Thorton matchup is tough

[north chasm]

hmm that is true actually

they are only doing special

could be doable with many potions but won’t be easy

[river prawn]

rest is easy

[formal matrix]

So, in principle a core of irida + SSN only have difficulty against noland?

[river prawn]

its not easy in practice

[snow spruce]

Arc Duo + Kabu can do Noland, but not Nita
Arc Duo + Gordie can do Nita, but (probably) not Noland

[river prawn]

but I'm no expert on SSN

[snow spruce]

Leon and even Palmer would be tough IMO

[warm haven]

Why couldn't arc duo + Gordie beat noland?

Gordie has max guard and HS1

[river prawn]

again lack the damage, but I dont know the gears that are used by Skinny

[snow spruce]

same as Greta. I think he lacks damage. Just 1 max guard alone isnt enough

[river prawn]

I presume they are pretty optimized

[snow spruce]

Unless you get 40%+ damage gears for Cynthia or something

[warm haven]

I mean, arc duo and NC silver can with sheer sync accel. Gordie just gives more turns with 3 pairs

[river prawn]

NC Silver also does more damage

[snow spruce]

NC Silver also does good dmaage with that 1 B-move of his
AND he boosts Cynthia a lot

[river prawn]

and gives Cynthia more damage

[snow spruce]

Gordie/Greta do ~nothing besides a damage guard

[warm haven]

I guess

[formal matrix]

Arc duo + event Victor? Haze on Nita and max guard on noland? he also has an extra max damage guard

[river prawn]

you have to have some way of shaving off 50% with 1 B earthquake

[river prawn]

mud shot debuff speed too

[warm haven]

Base Victor is also good

Grass PBlows destroy argenta with rain

[snow spruce]

base Victor doesnt have a max guard, weirdly

[warm haven]

Yeah

[river prawn]

Good Nita matchup tho

no one has made an SS Diantha run with Arc duo or?

[snow spruce]

SS Diantha + Duo can do Nita, but not Noland

[formal matrix]

So anyone trying event victor + arc duo vs noland, with him picking up max damage guard on grid?

[river prawn]

Needs 4/5 Cynthia

[snow spruce]

max damage guard doesnt really help much, it only protects Victor.
you need to protect Cynthia if you cant kill him pre-EQ. Unless you let Steven die and save the max guard for the EQ, but idk if thats actually better

[river prawn]

No he has max guard and max damage guard

that means he can use the max move on Cynthia

while giving himself for fissure

[snow spruce]

oh, but that guard on Cynthia will still get used up by Noland sync dmg

[stone scarab]

that wouldn't work for first fissure into eq because of the sync though, no

[river prawn]

true

[snow spruce]

you cant save it until the EQ

[river prawn]

plan dead

[river prawn]

but this other strat could work

after earthquake that Victor and Cynthia survive Noland would do sync and then fissure Victor then again sync and earthquake

that is a lot of turns for Cynthia to do the damage

[snow spruce]

maybe .. unless she just dies to the second sync anyway. Noland gets crit as soon as he kills steven

and Vigilance doesnt protect from it

[river prawn]

💔

[snow spruce]

Noland is very sneaky

[river prawn]

I forget that Noland does that

[snow spruce]

probably the most unique PMEX fight

solution is to get godly Champion gear for Cynthia. WIth the best possible optimized damage boost (probably prioritize move dmg, not sync)

Skinny gear in the Duo + Oleana clear is very low on damage boosting .. almost none
Lots of room to optimize. Boost Cynthia damage by 25-30% and everything gets so much easier

[fading walrus]

Even just 9-12%

Is huge on gear

Especially for

• champion
• main character
• rival
  Themes

[snow spruce]

my quest for the next ~5-6 months is to gather pins and roll amazing Champion gear set for the Duo

a bit unfortunate that SS Lear doesnt have the Champion theme.

neither do SST red or Oleana
NC Silver, NC Cheren, BT leon etc. - all of them have Champion

[fading walrus]

Yeah all neo Champions and Champions have it... Unsurprisingly

I have some good ones but nothing absolutely crazy since I have no arc pairs as of now

[formal matrix]

I have another brainded idea for all UB team. Arc duo + ny Wallace. His max move will have 1/5 chance turn on damage guard effect for all allies, help surving noland first fissure. And then he has insane dps on the center if Cynthia take down the sides. And also he overwrites the weather for Nita.

[snow spruce]

hmmm .. it can work? he has field, so can do double sun

[fast pendant]

Should work

There's also sync acceleration in the max move

[snow spruce]

i could try it, have 3/5 NY Wallace .. but later

[formal matrix]

His damage also gets boosted by stove being a Hoenn pair

[fast pendant]

1/5 should be enough

[low coral]

Difficult, most of them

The output is very lacking on that core, especially with the limited Zone time

Argenta is probably doable with Arc Steven, but Steven counters Argenta pretty hard himself

Anabel I already did, but didn't record, it's not a comfortable run

Thorton sounds very annoying and also requires Arc Steven, most likely, especially with the boosted Ice hits

Darach is easy with a good support, Palmer works if someone else carries the damage, like NC Red, Lucy is free as always

Leon is extremely hard

For UB performance, you probably want Field EXR on SS N to facilitate most of those, at least until a possible Ice Arc happens and either complements or substitutes Irida

[formal matrix]

Oh, thank you for the detailed explanation it’s very helpful

[fast berry]

Trying to do Evelyn UB

[formal matrix]

Who do you have? Can you clip your roster?

[rich heron]

Already did

[arctic nest]

Is SSMina at her best when at 3/5 for Ultimate Battles?

Or is it usually 5/5 that she shines

[fast berry]

Bruh

[rotund oasis]

noice

[fast berry]

Fleur cannon accuracy is terrible

[paper mural]

In dc ppl actually want it to miss so they think its acc is too good lmao.

[dim lance]

Imagine hail being the best weather in UB that it lets people do shit like this lol

[warm haven]

nah tech lapras is just that OP

but give him credit, lapras and irida are the only pairs with hail + speed debuffs

[high zephyr]

is thia ss steven 1/5? and is that need rng like flinch or else to interupt damage skill and like 4+ quadque, might pull SS lear if the team doesn't require them all, only nita is left for me

[river prawn]

This Arc Steven is 4/5

And it does rely on flinches and denials

Quadqueue is rarely possible with Steven though, only if the enemy is using a tm before you sync

[warm haven]

two random ass clears i decide to upload
https://youtu.be/j41ocrYTvjc
https://youtu.be/pWCZOxOL7tI

i want to candy steven but i also want to candy ss lear and i just have 1 sprint candy

[river prawn]

Whacky

I do want to try NC Silver with steel duo on Leon

That could be something

[echo atlas]

Steel duo would be...?

[formal matrix]

Janine be the drugstore oleana

[valid onyx]

Evelyn?

[formal matrix]

Yes

[valid onyx]

Omg didn't expect a 4 star can be used in UB

[formal matrix]

3 star

[valid onyx]

Oh right

[formal matrix]

But promoted to 5 star for defense

[valid onyx]

Your Steven move level?

[formal matrix]

5/5

I’m simp don’t blame me

[valid onyx]

Oh rip hahaha don't worry about it, thanks for the info xD

[cedar magnet]

Guys, can this team off-type any of the UBs?

[formal matrix]

Should be able to do some

[river prawn]

Arc Steven and SS Lear

[cedar magnet]

I will try Evelyn first, lets see

[formal matrix]

Well, maybe not Evelyn, she needs sp atk debuff

[warm haven]

No status Leon

But Steven is very fat so it could work

Also silver having PBlows in his bmove helps

[fading walrus]

I mean people used eggmons since anabrl

Tech gyara + 3/5 cerena + nc bede was one of the first Anabel wins I saw

[valid onyx]

Oh haha, didn't know that.
If it were me I wouldn't be able to make that work 😂

[limpid egret]

Is the only way to dodge nolands fissure by using something like falkners fly?

[small vault]

You can use protect/max guard/initial guard

[limpid egret]

Does wide gaurd not work?

[small vault]

Wide guard works for the next 10 PMUN Earthquake, not the fissure one

[limpid egret]

I see

[stable tundra]

Does Grusha's B Move block Fissure too?

[crude drum]

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_ICE:967452395875487745> <:GROUP_SYNC:967457975612637265> Unstoppable Avalanche

Power: 250
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Wulfric & Avalugg

[stable tundra]

Oops wrong move

[final yacht]

it does

[stable tundra]

[warm haven]

Yes

But if he's the tank youll want sentry entry on him

[limpid egret]

So this stage essentially requires 2 supports and 1 damage dealer

Unless you can defeat the entire stage fast enough of course

[snow spruce]

or a 2-turn dodge move user

[limpid egret]

Its what i meant by the other support i shouldve been a little more specific

[warm haven]

There's a combo with Falkner and Lana that let's you slot almost any good damage dealer and win

[echo atlas]

That's quite busted ngl

[river prawn]

Their worst matchups are Leon and Noland

The rest they can do with eggmon/spotlights

Leon should be possible with a spotlight too, Volkner

[echo atlas]

You would need 4/5 Steven tho

For some stages like Anabel

[river prawn]

Yes, I have already done those clears

And 4/5 is the key

[echo atlas]

Figures, it's so good

I only have 1/5

[river prawn]

I sacrificed my Cynthia move level for that

[echo atlas]

But I'm surprised by how much Lear supports, besided being a dps

[echo atlas]

Worth it

[limpid egret]

Thing is, my falkner is 1/5 and i cant just spam fly or else it runs out of uses

[warm haven]

If you have a strong damage dealer you can just use something like lodge accerola

[river prawn]

He has nice defensive utility, but the main thing with Steven is that he is a busted damage dealer

[warm haven]

There's nita too

[limpid egret]

Ive been using Arc Cynthia

So far i got to 50% on noland and killed the sides

I looked into nita but do you think 1/5 is enough? I only have 1 super BP voucher

[warm haven]

Yeah 1/5 is enough

Iirc she can recover flies mp attacking

But with Cynthia idt you need more flies

[river prawn]

Been testing Volkner with steel duo on Leon, it's very painful

I got close a few times, but you want 3 ET mprs and very frequent thunder fang paralyses later in the fight

and I abandoned the NC Silver idea, surviving Leons sync is a nightmare

[snow spruce]

anyone tried Arc Duo + NY Wallace on Nita/Noland yet ?

[stable tundra]

Curiously, why him?

resetting for aoe max guard from his max move ig

[snow spruce]

max guard on Noland and double sun on Nita

[stable storm]

did Lear and arc duo clear all ubs yet

[snow spruce]

I might do Noland with Arc Duo + SS Lear after getting him to 3/5
Someone else can try Nita

[leaden dagger]

Is there any other support I'm supposed to use here?

[stable tundra]

If all of them are 3/5 then the issue must be the move rotation

You can't let Nita get speed buffs

[river prawn]

Watch some successful runs

[leaden dagger]

I've been spamming icy wind pretty much endlessly

[river prawn]

To get the idea

You need denials with freeze

[rich heron]

Do u have classic red

[leaden dagger]

1/5 exr

[rich heron]

U need mpr

[stable tundra]

classic red does not exist

[rich heron]

So can't use

[river prawn]

Redlax is a worse support there anyways

[stable tundra]

His TM MPR lies at 1/5 but i doubt he is better than NC Blue here

[river prawn]

Can't get much safer than NC Blue in that team

[leaden dagger]

1 sync from nita just one shots both red and irida

[low coral]

Because Nita had positive Speed buffs there

[rich heron]

I found it less rng
Just some red tm mpr

[remote nexus]

arc duo is Steven and Lance right

[high harbor]

steven and cynthia

[remote nexus]

my sign to actually start building my asCynthia then lol. are there any videos of the clears by chance? (feel like it’s a me piloting issue rn)

[snow spruce]

no

[snow spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733
a bunch of videos of Arc Duo clears here (some screenshots, but also lots of videos)

and others too

[rich heron]

I got close to defeating with classic red more than nc blue and defeated

[leaden dagger]

why does nita have a crit next

why does she need that?

why is she allowed that?

couldnt she just lose?

[rich heron]

https://youtu.be/xt41mH1X4VQ?feature=shared

You can watch it
If you find it more useful , then go for it

He is 1/5

He doesn't even have ex role lol

[leaden dagger]

the stupid condition nullifying

just get frozen you stupid-

[rich heron]

@leaden dagger watch this if u want

[raven wharf]

How do you even burst her down faster

[stable storm]

would try to do ss Lear arc duo all ubs myself.......if I had 5/5 on my arc Cyn and got arc Steven

[raven wharf]

Help

Trying to follow the vid from the sheet but it's pretty rng

[shrewd marten]

Stares at johto passion

[raven wharf]

Accidentally missed using it once

[shrewd marten]

U still have 2 uses

[raven wharf]

The vid relies on flinching at a specific time wth

Even with johto passion she's not getting burst that fast

[fringe stratus]

This might be doable for me once irida gets an exr

[silver spruce]

Skinny cooking again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqWrKjCXAR0

[stable storm]

???

did Avery find his comp?

[silver spruce]

Apparently

[river prawn]

nice to see it come to fruition

we talked about it yesterday

[stable storm]

Ah, I was busy yesterday

seems like I missed a meta development

[warm crescent]

Can ask about damage challenges in this channel

[stable storm]

@snow spruce

[silver spruce]

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1255888121648644197

[warm crescent]

Ty!

[stable storm]

#1255888121648644197

[river prawn]

the more important Avery update was the lear nc rosa clears

But this is nice too

anni raihan left

[warm haven]

i knew avery could

[raven wharf]

Can I cry

[stable storm]

??

[stable storm]

no, suffer

[stable storm]

wdym

[river prawn]

its in the channel

[river prawn]

here

[stable storm]

??all ubs?

[river prawn]

no

[raven wharf]

YABHB

[river prawn]

Palmer Nita and Anabel though

[stable storm]

wtf

[river prawn]

they can do 8 for sure

[stable storm]

HOW?

[river prawn]

Noland and Leon are not possible, Thorton is maybe but I dont think so

[stable storm]

Lear buff was that good?

[warm haven]

yeah, both in grid and EXR

[warm haven]

i dont see why thorton wouldnt be possible

[snow spruce]

Skinny, stop, they're already dead!
(added - we are at 10 all UB teams now, 6 of them are the Arc Duo .. 2 are Ice team)

[stable storm]

the other 2 are poison and flying right?

[shrewd marten]

Doing Leon is crazy

[snow spruce]

NY Wallace is next on the list
after that maybe anni Raihan

[stable storm]

??

[shrewd marten]

Although Avery really is just a gimmick clearer usually

[snow spruce]

yes

[stable storm]

is this an all ub team bargain sale

[shrewd marten]

The arc duo is

[warm haven]

arc duo farming UBs with anything that has max guard

[stable storm]

even anything that doesn't

as long as it moves

[snow spruce]

with NC Silver and SS lear can do Noland without max guard. good old brute force + sync accel

[stable storm]

what's next? tech egg lapras arc duo all ub clear?

How many ubs has ss Lear arc duo comp done

[river prawn]

I know Runner was trying Nita

[snow spruce]

no one posted much yet of that, but it should be 10/11

[warm haven]

they can beat most UBs with that tho

[stable storm]

only that annoying girl is left I assume

[warm haven]

but it's gatekeeped by noland and prob palmer

[snow spruce]

if tech egg lapras had a max guard or protect - could have been 11/11

[shrewd marten]

Damn lear damage is crazy

Shame he really wants 4/5 for buff block

Also why didn’t he get sprint

He looks like a sprint unit

[warm haven]

shh

[stable storm]

Dena does gacha when deciding exr

[river prawn]

well its good he didnt get sprint

[shrewd marten]

Sure but it would’ve made sense for him to get sprint

He could’ve zoomed

Instead he just does bonkers aoe sync damage

What a loss

[snow spruce]

Skinny isnt even using amazing gear for this UB farming. Can still squeeze out even more damage out of Cynthia

[sour elk]

Ice team should be 3, NC Blue can clear Thorton with Irida/NC Red too , but I guess the screenshot/vid is still needed for the doc

[snow spruce]

yup, cant add without some form of proof, someone needs to do it and post. I checked the other UBs doc and in-game viewer too and never saw that clear

[high zephyr]

ah thanks, so it need some rng but pretty good that doesn't require perfect all quadque

[raven fox]

does anyone here have a strat without nc serena and a lot of rng to clear ub anabel? i have a lot of units but im pretty bad at these stages it seems like

[eternal yacht]

This should work right? I've been getting to around 10-11% so with enough luck should b doable no?

[rich heron]

Why not exing them

[eternal yacht]

Would if I could

[rich heron]

Oh

[eternal yacht]

I unfortunately do not have enough pu

[rich heron]

Well ex can help you do it if you reaching 10-11% hp

[eternal yacht]

True , I was thinking getting lucky with flinches

[high zephyr]

you'd better wait after exing them, it is just a matter of few weeks

guys for beating nita, is irida/nc red/ nc blue has low rng clear overall? really need a less rng team

[solar stirrup]

It's the team that requires the lowest rng imo

[high zephyr]

okay thanks, will wait for irida run i guess

[solar stirrup]

Should be a consistent clear other than whatever flinches nc blue needs to land

[high zephyr]

yea i guess better swap nc blue there, is ssa cynthia better with that team?

[solar stirrup]

No the survivability is going to be bad

[high zephyr]

ah i see, nc blue it is, thanks

[river prawn]

I think NC Cheren Nita clears involve the least amount of rng

[raven fox]

what clears anabel with least amount of rng (without nc serena)

[rich heron]

You can use classic red
I saw a video on it

Just 1/5 red the video used without ex role

[river prawn]

Probably Dahlia, NC Blue and some third rain setter

[raven fox]

damn dont have dahlia either

sitting here all day trying to get mpr on rain

[paper mural]

Avery's kit feels like they had og Lear's exr and expansion in mind.

[mystic lion]

I finally beat Anabel omfg. I honestly think 5/5, 70/60 grid Leaf made the difference from 3/5. And the endure let Kris survive long enough for the last hit!

[valid raft]

Is that Mix Leaf and V. Lyra?

[mystic lion]

Ya! I'm sure it could be done with less investment, but I'm not the best battler like Zinfogel or something lol. I used 5/5 EXR Mixed Leaf, 3/5 EX SS Kris, and 3/5 EX V Lyra. All 150.

[river prawn]

Circle gaming

[solar stirrup]

Man how op is ss lear

Been seeing a trillion clears with him lately

[shrewd marten]

Triple circles is really cool

[river prawn]

pretty strong but I find him very fun so that is why I am doing so many clears

[shrewd marten]

I tried to fish around with sslear and his retainers but

They’re not very good at that(especially cuz lear is 1/5 whomegalol)

[river prawn]

Geeta certified

[fading walrus]

Geeta is in general a unit that loves circle stacking

Or, well, oleana

[river prawn]

I also love to force Geeta wherever I can

[fading walrus]

Yeah same

[river prawn]

but I do use her more out of poison teams

[fading walrus]

She's so good

And fun

Hands down she and NC silver are my favourite 2024 units and in my top 10 ever

[river prawn]

Can someone explain why is Palmer able to queue max move?

No field/effect is running out

[warm haven]

Was paso circle about tu run out when you refreshed it?

[river prawn]

no but galar circle was

that is a thing?

[warm haven]

Oh that's galar

Yeah

[river prawn]

so stupid, oh well thanks

[warm haven]

For some spaguetti code if a field effect is about to run and and you refresh it (while having another FE active) quad gets ruined

So you would have to refresh earlier

[river prawn]

More circle stacking, both NY Wallace and Avery are 1/5

[warm haven]

I don't remember, did steel duo + avery beat noland?

[river prawn]

I haven't seen that

[warm haven]

I belive they can but with a 3/5 Avery

[river prawn]

Would want more move levels on Avery to try

[warm haven]

For max cd

[river prawn]

I do have great steel gear

I dont have Volo but he can replicate the strats

for the Palmer clears

same idea, stack circle maximize sync damage and fire off b moves with lots of smun

[fast pendant]

Got some time to do it today

[river prawn]

wow

hats off

[fading walrus]

Yes

[river prawn]

is it in a vid?

[fading walrus]

They did 11/11

Idr

I saw it somewhere

[river prawn]

oh you are thinking of arc duo not steel duo

[fading walrus]

No I saw even steel

Pretty sure

[river prawn]

Sure Noland is possible

but Nita is 100% not

[snow spruce]

wait, is that a win or did the EQ wipe you (I cant see if you still had endures) ?

[river prawn]

they have no speed debuff with Avery

[fast pendant]

it was a win

bad screenshot

[river prawn]

you can see Lear attacking

the coins

[snow spruce]

damn, hat's off. insane
gonna do Noland too ? if your Lear is 3/5 it should be easy, even easier than NC silver

[fast pendant]

I can try later

[snow spruce]

I think you basically just copy the NC silver clear exactly 1:1

[fast pendant]

I don't recall waht's the clear like, if you have it there

but I think it's just mpr on tm

[snow spruce]

https://x.com/mofu_hilnatcal/status/1830142461080961042

もふもふ (@mofu_hilnatcal) on X

シロナダイゴシルバーでダツラ撃破！！！

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 7:15 AM

[fast pendant]

which lear doesn't need

I cannot watch it on X

[snow spruce]

he doesnt kill steal the sides there - as that would make Noland do a crit EQ early, thats bad
just let him sync and then take off the last 50% with 1 Cynthia attack + 1 Silver/Lear B-move

[snow spruce]

uh

[onyx cedar]

edit your url

[low coral]

The site is blocked on the entire country

[onyx cedar]

x for vxtwitter

and it'd replace it with a discord friendly player

https://vxtwitter.com/mofu_hilnatcal/status/1830142461080961042

there

[snow spruce]

I think you also want to have HS1 on Lear
HS1 + his passive = -2 from Lear
double HS1 on Steven = -2 from Steven
SS propulsion 9 = -2 from Cynthia
= you can sync Cynthia after 1 turn

after that its straight forward

1 thing is that MGA from lears TM running out can ruin quad queue, need to watch that

[warm haven]

you can start with circle

[snow spruce]

yeah

I would grid Lear for max SMUNs
and then Cynthia PMUN stacked attack + Lear SMUN stacked B-move should be enough to take off Nolands 50%

also for the doc we would still need Arc Duo + SS Lear clears for Palmer & Leon, but thats basically a formality after Nita and Noland

Any chance you recorded that full Nita clear with Lear btw ?

[fast pendant]

yep

[snow spruce]

It was so nice of them to give Arc Cynthia speed debuffs, knowing she will have to face Nita in sand

[warm haven]

im sure they had UBs in mind at least

[river prawn]

Or because she is ground

VGiovanni also lowers speed with his b earthquake

[snow spruce]

I guess. I just tend to think of her as an offtype pair, forgetting the type. Especially since all her 11/11 UB teams use 0 ground teammates

[fading walrus]

In general Def/Spdef+speed is useful

But I wish we had more atk+Def debuffers

Like SS nemona

[formal matrix]

Masked royal

[fading walrus]

I meant high tiervlimited ones

[formal matrix]

NC Leaf then

[fast pendant]

well there are quite a few,

[formal matrix]

BT Leon, NC Bianca etc

[fast pendant]

Fall Roxanne, Arc Steven himself

[fading walrus]

In Biancas case it's all 3/5 stuff

Same for those others

Also in Biancas case you're sacking everything else for those debuffs so...eh,

[formal matrix]

BT Leon in his b move tho

So does NC leaf in her base passive

[fading walrus]

So 2 units

[boreal abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/garchomp-flies-takes-off-fast-gif-17895177545771630572

[snow spruce]

@fast pendant btw what level are your Cynthia and Steven ?
I dont think Cynthia needs 5/5 for Noland, but 4/5 probably yeah
Steven I assume is already 4/5, his 4/5 is pretty important overall

[shrewd marten]

I love this animation

[snow spruce]

based

[sour elk]

Amazing

So yeah that team is what I would call best in the game so far, it has the highest output and beats all UBs

[stable storm]

my glorious king beat all ubs huh

Is ice comp finally gonna be dethroned

[snow spruce]

I think Arc Duo already dethroned Ice core

[stable storm]

I am talking about rat ice comp specifically

[snow spruce]

any ice comp

[stable storm]

will we finally have a time where top comp doesn't include a rat