#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

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carmine oyster
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Wanna do the arc event battles before they expire

Can't beat "Those Blessed By A Diety"

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I can level any of them up to 140 and probably get them to ex

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am i cooked

sullen silo
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Can ss gladion and ss wally beat anabel ebe

dense vessel
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What’s a guide for the arc event battle

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I only have arc Steven

snow spruce
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people have been cooking on Nita

shrewd marten
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Cynthia Steven

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And then a random kriss

low coral
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Cynthia in general is good vs Nita

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Despite being sand

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Ground rebuff, actually making use of the perma sand to make herself do more damage without worrying about duration, Speed drops without stopping to do damage

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Also, one more Argenta under rain

solar stirrup
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you have amazing units I want myself

snow spruce
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yeah Cynthia is genuinely good on Nita, but damn - I watched closer some of those sand-Nita-with-Cynthia clears that were done - and Arc Steven is highly important on all of them
the flinches, the endures etc.
Now I dont even know how to approach trying to do a sand-Nita clear with a support thats not Arc Steven .. or if thats even possible

shrewd marten
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Unless ur saying a clear with sand but no Steven

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In which case my bad

snow spruce
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"sand-Nita clear with a support thats not Arc Steven
Sand-Nita - that means without removing sand"

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yeah

shrewd marten
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Steven does a lot to replace so easily

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Pmun every action

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A bajillion overall healing and extremely tanky

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Ain’t no way

snow spruce
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.. unless there is some team with Cynthia + KriSS + 3-rd that could do all UBs .. not sure who that would be, maybe BT Leon

sour elk
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Having the sustain to keep the team alive under sand is also problematic for supports other than Steven

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Surging 9 and Sand Blaster 9 seem threatening

snow spruce
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well Steven isnt healing so much in those clears, its mostly the flinches, the debuffs and the endures

sour elk
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He is also tanking a lot without needing a lot of burst healing on himself, I feel other less bulky supports would sweat more to survive and keep allies alive at the same time

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Though I'm not sure it's right to write that as "team sustain" since like you mention the flinch, debuffs and endures are a big part of it beyond durability+ healing

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Is the Arc Duo the only team clearing sand Nita ?

shrewd marten
fast pendant
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but at least one of the 2, yes

snow spruce
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who else did sand Nita ?

fast pendant
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steven, diantha and silver

snow spruce
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oh yeah, forgot .. but thats still with Steven WEEZing

fast pendant
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well, yes, one of the 2, but not necessarily both

snow spruce
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sand-Nita without either of them is probably impossible right now
and for just Cynthia, without Steven, idk - something like Cynthia - SS Mina - BT Leon maybe works. I'm kinda liking his utility in UBs, but mine is only 1/5

fast pendant
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Mina hella overrated KoGone

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She's not that good of a tank and she wouldn't survive in sand

snow spruce
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She wouldnt be in sand, she has rain lol. Only 2 rains, but that can be enough
she has good stuff for UBs - anti crit shield with refresh (Nita does a sure crit EQ), AoE (!) protect etc.
with atk debuffs from Leon she could live for a long time

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if not her than SS Morty maybe

fast pendant
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Non-sand is plenty doable by several Cynthia comps, as shown by Kris up there

snow spruce
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wait, I'm mixing it up, Mina rain means it wouldnt be a sand Nita clear .. well nvm, ANY Nita clears without Steven wil ldo

snow spruce
fast pendant
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That's another topic

snow spruce
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Yeah, but the only reason I'm even thinking about it is to get another all UBs team.
I guess for a non-Steven sand-Nita /w Cynthia clear the support would have to be Blue or SSA Cynthia - no idea who the 3-rd is then
(if only Oleana wasnt weak to Ground)

thorny brook
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Winnable?

snow spruce
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yes

neat needle
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Forgot to SS the win but I won with this teamLarryDead

solar stirrup
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like 4 uses of sandstorm

neat needle
solar stirrup
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man was hitting like wet tissue

neat needle
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I don’t think I have right grid on 2/5 Steven

solar stirrup
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sterner stuff on steven makes him overpowered

neat needle
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Here’s my grid

solar stirrup
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maybe its just your damage

neat needle
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Prob

marble portal
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ah sweet, who’s ideal for teammates?

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I got Gladion 3/5

stable storm
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latios bullying time in 5 hours 23 minutes

true lagoon
marble portal
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aw dang

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1/5 Wally

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and no Penny

true lagoon
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well those are mainly to counter the gimmick

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you need debuffs

marble portal
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idk my ideal support would be for that

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best I can think of might be SS Brendan

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but that’s so bad for EBE

shell sentinel
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Trying to beat the Those Blessed by a Deity challenge, any tips for team comp?

Cyrus and Palkia, Penny and Sylveon, and OG Cynthia and Garchomp are currently my only EX.

SS Nemona, AS Cynthia, New Anni Lillie, Oak with Nidorino, and Rosa with Serperior are all able to be EX’d, and I have 5 star tickets to power up any 2 others to 20/20, but I only have the spirit things to get one to EX. I also have the roll coins and tickets to get a couple different EX Roll Cakes if needed.

echo drum
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I swear, those blessed by a deity is damn near impossible

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I'm using SS Nemona, SS Blue and new Anni Lillie

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All 3 are Ex'd, and honestly I have no idea what to do anymore

olive hull
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Handily cleared the Kanto one with NC Silver. Almost like it was... meant for him

echo drum
olive hull
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Well I mainly used NC Serena for the Master passive and stat debuffing. Defense down is recommended

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Oh, looks like you have to keep their defense down. So I guess anyone who can keep up with that.

bold escarp
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I'm having lots of trouble to beat the regional battles, anyone could help me, please??

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I could send my Sync Pairs if necessary

stable tundra
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Have you been aware of gimmicks for each stage? If not, i recommend checking the pins first

bold escarp
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Oh, there's gimmicks? I've had the game for a long time, but I've never learnt how to play it seriously, I just tried to use strong sync pairs in my rooster and prayed for the best haha

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I'll check them then

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Thanks!

cunning relic
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Ok what beats the Unova one outside Kantrio, Rats, and Arc Steven?

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Is 1/5 SS Gladion good?

stable tundra
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Hard content, like this EBE for example, requires the awareness of gimmicks beforehand to have the chance of clearing them. Keep that in mind

stable tundra
bold escarp
cunning relic
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I've beaten the Alola one so far. I'm just not quite sure what works on the rest. Diantha + Elio seem solid for the Kanto one but I cannot survive their sync...

bold escarp
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I know Geeta doesn't attack special, but I don't have any strong electric or poison pairs that are strong in special attack (or so I think

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I've tried this team but Lugia always kills me with his second sync move

hearty cedar
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Cool

true lagoon
bold escarp
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I may be doing soething wrong??

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I use Hilbert for the sp. def drop

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Should I attack with him too?

true lagoon
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you should definitely nuke with him if you’re able to

bold escarp
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I'll try

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I only have him 3/5 and can't get him higher noww

valid raft
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It's unnecessary

bold escarp
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I'm really lost tbh I am trying different sync pair combinations and nothing works for me (maybe it's me playing badly)

paper mural
echo drum
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Huh, that's a good idea

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I mostly used the new lillie because she dealt consistent damage and gauge wasn't really a problem

dense vessel
stable tundra
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Please take screenshots of your roster next time so that we can look into yours easier

brisk lintel
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why is she good ?

dense vessel
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Here’s a screenshot of all my sync pairs

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@stable tundra

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I screen recorded because I thought it would be more convenient

paper mural
# brisk lintel why is she good ?

Rain is the second best weather to change in current all ubs, so she's used in all the teams that can't change weather in other means.
And she's better than SS Kris at tanking.

stable tundra
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Anyway, use Anni N or Ghetsis on the second slot for offensive debuffing

broken crag
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what pairs are people r7nning for latios

valid raft
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Four Cycles At Fairies'

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FCAF

rich marsh
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Lets see if the rats can kill Latios

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Why did the sync just one shot me when they were at -6

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Not only that why did the sync do over 1k at all

valid raft
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What's the team?

novel fog
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Wait what's the thing with Evelyn?

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No one cleared her in 11 minutes yet?

stable tundra
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do not let her get to +1 spatk at all cost

rich marsh
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I was just trying Red/Ash/Blue

stable tundra
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that's why, Blue is slow at debuffing spatk and she starts with +2 spatk

rich marsh
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Ah I see

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Well clears have already happened somehow

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You can look at the team lists in game

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Huh this is interesting

valid raft
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Did you flinch with Blue? Because that forces them to use their TMs

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And they'll buff hella fast

rich marsh
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Bird trio is a new one

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I probably did do that actually

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Blue flinch causing issues again

valid raft
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So she can also be used here

rich marsh
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Ngl I don’t even know what she does

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I only got Red and Blue

valid raft
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Leaf debuffs the 4 basic stats with her Leer alone

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And inflicts rebuff to all enemies thanks to Leer

severe cloud
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Latios is still a clown for allowing this clear

frozen meteor
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Latios

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Bahahahahahahaha

inner heath
frozen meteor
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Absolute clown

inner heath
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Meh

frozen meteor
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Literally just the fairy dc setup

frozen meteor
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I blasted it like nothing

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A latios of any kind

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Is still latios

lunar sedge
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Free gems PB_sleep

severe cloud
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Gonna be a controversial statement, but I genuinely think that was the easiest Ultimate Battle so far

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The only one that comes close maybe is Darach

stable tundra
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counterpoint: Lucy UB exists

rich marsh
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Not even close

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Lucy is still the easiest

inner heath
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gonna try 1/5 team next but I don't think this is the easiest

valid raft
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Most people won't have a proper AoE debuffer

rich marsh
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Lucy shouldn’t even be an UB

frozen meteor
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Guess they wanted everyone to have gems

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So they made this

rich marsh
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See some of these are free if you own the right stuff but near impossible otherwise

frozen meteor
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Yeah but not latios

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I could literally slap on Janine and say "yeah she counters latios"

rich marsh
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Like Palmer and Noland I beat second or third try once I actually got the sync grid builds right. But if you miss any of the correct units you just lose.

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Yeah i’m talking the DPS check ones

frozen meteor
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Yeah palmer noland suck

valid raft
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Don't forget Nita

rich marsh
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I’m appalled that Nita actually made it into the game

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It exists just to waste your time

novel fog
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Will 1/5 Penny, 1/5 SS Wally and 3/5 SS Gladion work?

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Or no AoE debuff

stable tundra
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you can give the team a try

valid raft
formal matrix
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Used arc Steven and arc Cynthia and Oleana for venom drench. Works easily for the clown latios SophoKEK

novel fog
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Move levels?

formal matrix
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Steven 5/5, Cynthia 3/5, oleana 1/5

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(I’m a Steven simp don’t judge me SophoKEK

frozen meteor
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@spiral summit

rotund oasis
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There we go

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zapdos sync -> nc leaf sync -> ss nemona sync -> nc leaf sync final

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dire hit all+ was threathening, but paldea circle helped to mitigate the damage

paper mural
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Latios actully hits hard 0.0

rotund oasis
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need to drop their offenses.

silver spruce
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What’s the plan for people with the dragon rush into hyper beam?

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Blue takes 80% from either with max defense and -6 offenses

buoyant tide
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the debuffs latios needs are atk spatk and spdef right

rotund oasis
buoyant tide
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considering (eventual exr) penny exr rika janine (venom drench)

rotund oasis
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see 1/2 potion on nc leaf.

verbal ice
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Gladion missed last move to give a heart attack, at least i had endure

buoyant tide
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but that feels like its way too easy a solution

broken crag
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nc blue and rats work?

carmine oar
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So am i screwed until i get 3/5 gladion or nemona

verbal ice
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unless you have the nc kantrio 3/5 i would think so

carmine oar
stable tundra
carmine oar
broken crag
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whats the grid

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and lc for them

verbal ice
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idk but it seems like it can clear it ,so try things, that's what i do always

stone scarab
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got myself a clear with SS Gladion SS Wally NC Blue. Wanted to use SS Mina but didnt have enough debuffing, so rip

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still, worked out in the end

silver spruce
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Got it with blue Gladion penny. Penny over volo was the key I was missing

stable tundra
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This UB turns out to be worse than i imagined

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Luster Purge casually takes Penny to 2% HP

craggy wind
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I hvnt used Anni N in like forever

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Hes just there to spam noble roar

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I feel lile Holiday Viola is also good for this UB

peak bridge
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Smooth

rotund oasis
peak bridge
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Yeah i like the big black border ( evil laugh )

hearty cedar
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Ok this was a bit difficult than expected

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0 potion mprs

rotund oasis
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I think its made for ss nemomo.tbh. i managed to tank 2 sync moves and a hyper beam to the face with 2 use of paldea circle

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Both nc leaf and ss nemo are cs2

hearty cedar
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We need more sp.atk drops than atk drops

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Definitely made for ss gladion

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Like, look at that hp pool

rotund oasis
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Nc blue for tanking mmhmm

hearty cedar
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This stage definitely prefers nc.blue or arc steven as the tanks

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Rosa is honorary

rotund oasis
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Yep

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No ss glad

hearty cedar
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Easy pickings 9 is genuinely useful against this ub and anabel ub

rotund oasis
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Tbh she already had crit+2 so she couldve crit my team twice (sync and eq)

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But that paldea circle i swear o.o

hearty cedar
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I was preparing to tank her sync but glad killed the sides so I immediately queued fluer cannon which ko'd the mid

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My run wasnt optimized at all

hearty cedar
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Thats why nc.nate's bmove which is 1 use per cycle works really well with his kit

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Pretty sure rosa + red + irida can kill this stage if we can freeze them appropriately

rotund oasis
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Ah wells UB is done. o/

rich heron
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So what abt new UB

rich heron
rotund oasis
rich heron
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No nemona

rotund oasis
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4th anni can probably do jt

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I saw it in the replays

rich heron
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So ss mina is not good for it

plush gale
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I brought Leaf cause She's dependable though https://youtu.be/oWhEOGT7c0k?si=-GblNEc9UiFnxLAZ

Gameplay : This run gaves me a Rush dealing with Evelyn's Team. First, Prevent Evelyn using High Damage Luster Purge by removing her High Special Attack Stats also try to decrease Evelyn's Team Stats at precise moments and the rest is protect the Team by using SS Mina's Buddy Move from 2nd Sync. After that Use SS Gladion's Buddy Move while Fairy...

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plush gale
plush gale
paper mural
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UB Latios cleared!

eternal yacht
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2/5 Steven with Gladion + Penny

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Wasn't hard

slate light
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1/5 nemo, 1/5 steven, 3/5 penny

hearty cedar
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Of course tosakin cleared with this team

main gale
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Hmmmmmmm

warm haven
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how's the latios bullying going?

plush gale
main gale
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It should have been Dragon like in Legendary Battles TabithaHehe

stone scarab
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you definitely need early spatk debuffing for this

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the +2 sharpened mind 9 luster purge will hurt significantly otherwise

main gale
stable storm
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how fun has it been to bully
evelyn so far

snow spruce
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@low coral are Irida debuffs alone enough for Evelyn ? I assume yes
also how is Chase tanking ?

slate light
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it wasn't quite "bullying" but my first try with the team i posted above was the win

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discounting a few failed cerena attempts

low coral
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Idk, gotta try later

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For sure Blue wins, at worst

earnest panther
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So how miserable is this ub?

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Have not looked into it

final yacht
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easy

earnest panther
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Nice. WillChill

final yacht
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(easy for a ub, not as easy as lucy but still very simple)

broken crag
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hmm

stone scarab
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It feels pretty fair, which is nice

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The only thing about it i found at all annoying was the +2 omniboost on endure

rich heron
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That flinch at the end moment when he was abt to use surf

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Saved me

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My heartbeat became faster when he was abt to use surf

true lagoon
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8 sync buffs? damn

low coral
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Can quite heavily limit tank options at the start

stone scarab
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Thats fair, I was able to handle that starting off but yeah

pseudo forum
rich heron
eternal yacht
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Can 1/5 EXR Arc Steven , 3/5 EX Penny , 1/5 EX SS Nemona take care of Evelyn?

silver spruce
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According to someone earlier they did just that clear

eternal yacht
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Alright thank you

eternal yacht
slate light
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all 150 but that's a minor difference

broken crag
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for those that used ss gladion nc blue and penny could they share the grid

silver spruce
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what levels do you have ohnoa

lunar sedge
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I did it with that team, my penny is the only 1/5

broken crag
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3/5

lunar sedge
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I can share grid just gimme a moment

silver spruce
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I did with 3/5 gimme a sec

lunar sedge
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If my Penny were 3/5 I would grab propulsion, satisfied snicker and master healer kiss

silver spruce
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1/5 Penny team is perfectly fine but if you have her 3/5 pick up satisfied snicker

broken crag
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neat

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ill try it out

broken crag
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it doesnt show on there

silver spruce
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Vigilance all except gladion

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CS 2 on magearna

broken crag
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when do u use gladions b move

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before or after endure

silver spruce
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I saved the first one for after 2nd support sync and the other one after gladion sync

earnest panther
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Og the misery

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Fleur cannon M i s s .

lunar sedge
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I stacked up some SMUN too

broken crag
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thanks guys

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it worked

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worth using the 1 support on penny

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all 3 survived 2nd sync since latios had no crit and stat buffs

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even after missing 2 fleur cannon

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near the end

lunar sedge
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90% acc moment CL1_BlobCringe

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But congrats 👏

rich heron
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Is penny ok for this

dim inlet
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Yes

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Just use her b move right before latios syncs in case he has any stat raises

spice swift
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So The Fun Team™️ still works?

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(NC Blue, NC Red, Irida)

snow spruce
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Evelyns SpAtk buffs are pretty hardcore it seems:
skinny said she couldnt do it with the Arc Duo "I tried a few times, doesn’t seem possible. You can’t keep up with the spa buffs so her second sync kills them from full even on a non crit."

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I'm actually wondering if Ice team-Chase can do it or not .. probably still can

low coral
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Ice-Chase is something I'll have to test

mellow drift
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Hi is there a pin for the new event?

low coral
mellow drift
low coral
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#1128052735967764621

mellow drift
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And the new Ultimate Challenge as well

low coral
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Go there

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You can ask about the Ultimate Battle here

forest root
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Did it

earnest panther
low coral
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On Blue and on Irida

river prawn
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Again a UB that Anni Lillie 2 is very good on

spice swift
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Irida has SpA drops?

low coral
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Yeah

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She has Satisfied Snarl 9

alpine quiver
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Return of the Queen

rigid hare
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I can't make it 😭

fading walrus
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3/5
1/5 non exr
3/5 non exr

orchid bridge
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sweet, I was waiting for SS Nemona clear

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Not surprised she can do it, but I was under the impression she needed 3/5

fading walrus
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I tried a triple "support" run

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SS mina, volo, penny

snow spruce
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there are a bunch of SS Nemona clears in the in-game team viewer

fading walrus
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Sadly at 5 sync buffs hyper beam melts mina

orchid bridge
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Yeah, but I think all were 3/5

fading walrus
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There's 2

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1 is 3/5 one is 5/5 + SC rosa

uncut drum
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Die clown

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I got really lucky though. Normally Acerola wouldn't survive their moves post sync

fringe stratus
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Had to 3/5 gladion for this

rich heron
fringe stratus
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true. I just wasn't willing to invest in it since I already had 4/5 ny lisia and ss nemona to take care of most fairy content

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but I guess upgrading my special fairy dmg dealer is prob good for the long run

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esp since the only other special fairy dmg dealer I have is katherine lol

hasty bough
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This is my roster

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For the challenge those blessed by a deity, I usually try these challenges by brewing my own strategy, but their dps is too high, so I’m giving up and asking for help

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I play mostly with favorites

rotund oasis
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you need a express aoe debuffer tbh.

hasty bough
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Yeah I kinda miss exactly that

rotund oasis
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stat drop i mean.

hasty bough
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Yeye

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I don’t have a good atk/spatk dropper

fading walrus
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Lucian is fine

stable tundra
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Darach is a solid choice, he also has Defog to clear zone

fading walrus
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For that

stable tundra
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And speed debuff when gridded

fading walrus
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Darach works too

hasty bough
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Darach is single target no?

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Or is he multi target

stable tundra
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Piers needs to be replaced asap

fringe stratus
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multi cuz of his passive

stable tundra
hasty bough
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Piers was just so I could survive dragonite’s giga impact

hasty bough
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Yeah that works then

fringe stratus
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yeah piers tend to be one of the lesser spotlight supports

rigid pivot
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So why does latios one shot my tank lmao

fading walrus
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If you ended up exing the '24 Anni Lillie she's amazing for the stage

hasty bough
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Hm

fading walrus
hasty bough
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Thanks for the help! I’ll give this another go

rigid pivot
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Well it’s not like I can drop it instantly-I have penny and nemona but I need time to set it up

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Sucks

fading walrus
# hasty bough Thanks for the help! I’ll give this another go

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This is a f2p clear

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You can follow the guideline of team build, sync order and target priority with limiteds with similar abilities

fading walrus
cobalt cliff
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Hello! Any good debuffer for New Latios UEB? I dont have NC Leaf

rigid pivot
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But penny instantly died to hyper beam

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And didn’t get confusion or flinch hacks on the hyper beam feels bad

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Not sure what I can improve

low coral
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Why was Penny tanking instead of Steven?

rigid pivot
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Ayy there we go

rigid pivot
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Probs made it harder than it needed to be though

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Won on the last turn I could unless Steven flinched again

rigid hare
rigid hare
# uncut drum Die clown

Oh true, i could've tried with Jellicent

Since i got her 3/5 i am not using her at all lol

uncut drum
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She's amazing. In this battle she also benefits from impervious so luster purge doesn't debuff

rigid pivot
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She doesn’t get one shot by luster purge turn 1? Huh

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I forgot what she does mostly Ngl lol

uncut drum
rigid pivot
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Ohhhh i See

uncut drum
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This is why I used Bede too

rigid pivot
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She buffs it by +2 so I didn’t have enough to fully debuff

uncut drum
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You just need to bring it down to neutral for it to work

rigid pivot
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My fairy damage before I got ss nemona like 2 weeks ago was complete crap I hate using diantha lol

bold escarp
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I still couldn't beat the johto team battle, could anyone help me please??

wicked jacinth
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Is this a good team comp for kanto ebe?

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Im struggling to beat it

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Nvm as soon as i EX’d silver and sent the pic I beat it comfortably lol

bold escarp
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I'm using this team and can't get to beat it

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I've tried differents pairs too but nothing seems to work for me

steady roost
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ngl really struggled with this one. got so close so many times and then put mind games on nc blue and finally won….

lunar sedge
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You need to debuff her spdef too, not just atk/spatk

spark isle
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This team just never fails huh?

steady roost
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oh…. my bad then for not reading all the rules LarryDead

left crow
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I have 1/5 penny and 4/5 ss mna, both exed

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Which is better for evelyn?

snow spruce
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how is NC Cheren - Anni Skyla - SS Mina looking for this UB ?
do they finally get filtered ?

low coral
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They probably win unless the SpA debuffs is too agressive for Skyla

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Or if Mina can't take Hyper Beam

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But she probably can, since Draining Kiss is super effective

stable storm
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I like how everyone is bullying latios after 3 months of 2 hard and 1 hilarious ub

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is there any grusha clear on latios yet?if not I will try to make one

left crow
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Nvm I can't do it

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1/5 ss gladion, mina, and ss wally too frail

cobalt cliff
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I managed to beat Latios with this team

stable storm
left crow
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Ss gladion

stable storm
cobalt cliff
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Yes

left crow
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Since wally is 1/5 he's relegated to utility

lone bramble
stable storm
left crow
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Yeah 😭

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Lemme send my fairies

stable storm
cobalt cliff
stable storm
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what are your strongest invested dds

left crow
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Like non fairies?

limpid egret
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Arc units are broken 💀💀 My first Ultimate down

left crow
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I have 3/5 sstred, 5/5 ss diantha

cobalt cliff
left crow
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@stable storm

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OH YEAH I HAVE CERENA

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stable storm
left crow
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Im dumb lul

stable storm
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same

left crow
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Who can i pair cerena with

limpid egret
# stable storm is that a duo clear?

Might as well have been, i had 5/5 berta just spamming its cheapest move but it did like 8% damage total to seviper, my Arc Cynthia is 2/5 EX+R and my Arc Steven is 1/5 EX

left crow
stable storm
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do you have a tanky support like ss mina

left crow
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Exed

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Def invested

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Prolly wally, mina, cerena?

stable storm
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try mina ,cerena and something to keep the sides in check

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that pult will hit you very hard

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same for hydreigon

left crow
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I tried bede but stupefication only does special

rich heron
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Morgan UB

Poison weak

true lagoon
rich heron
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Oh ye we don't have psychic yet too

true lagoon
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also grassy terrain

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easy psychic gimmick counter

rain sorrel
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NO FREAKING WONDER LILLIEGALEO WAS STRUGGLING IN MY PAST RUNS. I DIDN'T EVEN GIVE HER A GRID LarryDead

stable storm
rain sorrel
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Team Lillie (plus Arc Steven) did shockingly decent too WEEZing

true lagoon
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honestly giving everyone fluid fortification is straight evil

gentle wharf
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Goddammit I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong with Evelyn

stable storm
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the ub would be below darach level if they didn't have fluid fort

rain sorrel
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Yeah, honestly Evelyn's only problem is her T1 and having the right units to suppress Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Atk. Pretty sure only NC Leaf covers for it in one body. Unless you gave NC Blue Mind Games.

true lagoon
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is 1/5 ss gladion enough

stable storm
true lagoon
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with penny and nc blue

stable storm
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no

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no

true lagoon
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ok then what about sstr mix blue and nc blue 🗿

rain sorrel
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My first clear was with Variety Kris, SST Red, and NC Blue. 3/5 Variety Kris can double the Sp Atk drops with NC Blue.

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SST Red just answers the Sp Def.

true lagoon
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ik

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can penny tank evelyn instead of blue

stable storm
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I just went with standard fairy comp lmao

gentle wharf
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Fuck everyone’s bullying Evelynnbut me

fading walrus
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Lots of rosters can lack the cohesion to outdps the regen while upkeeping wtz

stable storm
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also he IS one of the ubs with a f2p clear

true lagoon
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do you thibk evelyn will get f2p clears or is she too much still

paper mural
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Lucy, Darach and Argenta are what I'll be happy to see for very hard stage 10 in BR.

paper mural
rain sorrel
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Evelyn's T1 is a nightmare for any F2P team that lacks any flinch. The Support is gonna get 1-hit KO'd by that Luster Purge

stable storm
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her power level is still above the weak 3 and Noland (Noland is a case of requiring specific gimmicks but lacking strength so he has a f2p clear despite being in the middle of ubs

stable storm
true lagoon
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imagine if she used her tm in her ub

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absolute nightmare

stable storm
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They learnt from nita

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imagine if she had Nita level buffing and required dragon zone removal

fading walrus
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I mean her own and left side's spa buffs make it worse than +4 defs imo

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Because you need 2 sources of -1 spa or a single -2 spa debuffs

true lagoon
fading walrus
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The aggressive spa buffing is worse

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Because it makes her nuke you

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With just +1 spa, you're fucked

rain sorrel
fading walrus
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Having a slowed down fortification isn't as bad as a +1 spa EQ or luster purge

stable storm
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honestly the sides are more threatening to me

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especially the pult

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dragon darts are nasty

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and surf

fading walrus
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Surf isn't a big deal as crunch, darts or rush

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I used dragon guard + team dragon guard in my 1/5 exrless Nemona clear and those darts still were extremely scary

snow spruce
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Evelyns sync is Special, right ?

stable storm
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these sides are the second strongest sides imo

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after Nita's sandstorm hippo

paper mural
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Nita's hippo is pure evil...

warm haven
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Sycamore can't tank Evelyn?

rain sorrel
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Definitely not against her T1 Luster Purge plus Dragapult/Latios can go physical

gentle wharf
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FINALLY

fading walrus
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Bro was struggling with the two most op units in the game, ☠️

stable storm
stable storm
fading walrus
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Well 1/5 Steven + Oleana definitely solves most of the debuffing, the deal-breaker would be 1/5 Vs 3/5 Cynthia or 5/5

simple pine
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Holy f this team was just something random i thought of didnt think it would actually work

valid onyx
fading walrus
simple pine
true lagoon
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also really unsurprising

simple pine
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M literally 4 days in the game....

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Okay sure

true lagoon
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i mean the team answers all of the gimmicks

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thats not surprising that you won

nocturne arch
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I was doing this one challenge but how can I beat it with no wipe units?

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I used SS rosa, Neo champ leaf and Lucas

snow spruce
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this was more annoying than I thought it would be.
I rate Evelyn as harder than Argenta & Darach at least

nocturne arch
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It worked. But I have to take down the side after I took down cynthia

snow spruce
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I think buffing every turn is my least favorite UB gimmick (Evelyn SpAtk, Nita speed etc.)

nocturne arch
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Also I have to get it done by today

lean trench
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How would you rank UBs from hardest to easiest now that Evelyn is here?

warm haven
final yacht
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maybe for once I can use H Whitney somewhere

fossil fjord
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Ok wtf, Penny cannot tank this stage

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Even with -6 spatk she dies to hyper beam

snow spruce
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Penny is not tanky at all

nocturne arch
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Yeah. How can I stay alive on this?

fossil fjord
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Why did they make the fairy support with spatk and spdef debuffs useless here?

river prawn
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Not useless

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You are inclined to clear fast with Penny

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Before the crazy damage moves

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Bar the first turn luster purge

fossil fjord
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I'm using Penny, SS Nemona and Anni Leaf

river prawn
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Don't know if Nemona can clear as fast as Gladion

nocturne arch
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Anyone didn’t beat it?

valid raft
fossil fjord
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Time to offtype this then

nocturne arch
valid raft
solar stirrup
true lagoon
nocturne arch
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Here are the units that used for defense buff

fading walrus
# simple pine What about this

Yeah idrt why anyone should be surprised the 2 strongest units in the game + a great nuker and rebuffer clear one of the most widely accessible EBEs

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Being on day one with Cyn + Steven is better off than being on day 1700 but without NC kantrio or arc trio

fossil fjord
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Who needs a tank anyway

nocturne arch
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Ok. It was hard, but I found it annoying because after the first Sync attack, they higher the buff and then they just spam earthquakes and Giga impact. Plus, they keep getting free moves.

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But giga impact is the one I really hate.

forest aurora
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Regarding the Evelyn Ultimate battle, is speed an important stat I need to be worried about reducing? It seems like for me I can only cover 4 stats reliably with 3 sync pairs (Attack & Def with SS Nemona, SpAtk with NC Blue & either speed or SpDef with Oleana and Penny respectively) so I’m trying to pick my poison on which I let go unchecked.

hearty cedar
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Just tried nc.rosa + nc.bianca + nc.leaf

Mid at 42% health. My attackers died to a crit sync. Can be cleared if I use vigilance on all 3

fading walrus
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After sync 3 even -6 atks/+6 defs hyper beam and EQ will melt

forest aurora
fading walrus
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-6 spa hyper beam did 924 to my +6 Spdef ssmina at sync 3

forest aurora
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Apparently 3/5 Penny is hard required to clear this for me.

river prawn
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1/5 Penny can clear depends on partners

true lagoon
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she definitely isnt

fading walrus
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She's recommended depending on teamcomp

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But she's not mandatory to be 3/5

hearty cedar
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Rosa survives hyper beam everytime even without bianca's circle

forest aurora
hearty cedar
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Thats how I defeated evelyn with gladion

fading walrus
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Mina would take 50-55% a cycle and then 85-90% the next

hearty cedar
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They dont matter defensively

hearty cedar
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Memebeam isnt an issue

fading walrus
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I meant luster purge too

river prawn
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That is where lack of master passive damage reduction shows for SS Mina

hearty cedar
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Just now, my greninja survived memebeam with 45% hp. Survived with 1%. Unova circle defensive saved it

true lagoon
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that would probably be more helpful to know

fading walrus
river prawn
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But she does have 30% special shield in fairy zone

forest aurora
true lagoon
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nc blue is enough

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run another spatk debuffer

fading walrus
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Even then, at sync buff 3 or 4 hyper beam at -6 still oneshot her

true lagoon
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or else you explode

hearty cedar
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Memebeam and luster purge are easy to tank moves if latios is at -6 which it will always be at thanks to bianca

forest aurora
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Yeah, that’s why I need 3/5 penny

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To have a second SpAtk nerf

river prawn
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I cleared with Arc Steven, Anni Lillie and STate pretty comfortably, shows how tanky Steven can be

fading walrus
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Debuffs wise

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You don't need snicker, blue already nerfs -1 and penny can steal

true lagoon
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run someone who does

fading walrus
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Well I'd recommend penny over a spa dropper because of steal + rebuff + mind games 9 ngl

forest aurora
fading walrus
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Is your nemona 3/5?

forest aurora
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Yeah, that’s why I’ve been having an easy time keeping the physical stuff in check

fading walrus
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Well 3/5 blue + 1/5 penny + 3/5 Nemona can definitely clear

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Just needs good rotation

true lagoon
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im probably just gonna use ss gladion nc blue sstr

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if gauge doesnt die

fading walrus
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For gauge generation

river prawn
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And all fast pairs

true lagoon
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is ss gladion really fast

river prawn
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With long animations

forest aurora
fading walrus
true lagoon
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well

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you should

fading walrus
true lagoon
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cuz nemona is aoe

forest aurora
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She’ll just get it back up once I bring it down

fading walrus
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With blue she won't

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Because of snicker

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🙂

forest aurora
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I’ve tried that and it didn’t work. She has 2 allies raising SpAtk and only blue is dropping it

fading walrus
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I used 3/5 penny + 1/5 nemona as sole debuffers

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I think I know what I'm talking about

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No blue

forest aurora
fading walrus
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Man I love when

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+reading

fading walrus
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You have blue

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I had only penny

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For spa drops

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I still won with a single source of spa debuffing

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And blue also flinches

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Making racking spa drops much easier

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So I do say it's manageable

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You just need to work on your denials and rotations

true lagoon
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ok holy fuck

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evelyn does 837 to nc blue t1

fading walrus
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Yea

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Ideally you wanna protect or flinch

forest aurora
fading walrus
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Flinch is in 1/5 blue

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It's base kit

fading walrus
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It's harsh

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But blue gets to flinch RNG for it

true lagoon
#

so initial guard?

forest aurora
true lagoon
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ig ill just grid initial guard

fading walrus
true lagoon
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better than dealing with that nonsense

fading walrus
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Lol

true lagoon
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bruh

fading walrus
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If this is enough to make you give up

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Yikes

river prawn
true lagoon
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if their’s is 3/5

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cant they just grid initial guard

fading walrus
true lagoon
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and the luster purge is completely neutralized

fading walrus
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That too yea

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But again, flinching is also always an option for even easier time to start

true lagoon
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its really not the issue you think it is sorry

fading walrus
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Going for T1 flinch resets is just barely an issue

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It's like a 10 seconds reset cycle

fading walrus
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580

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#1209457129979641886 message

forest aurora
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I finally remembered what I was thinking of for flinches in the NC Blue grid. Hostile Environment 2. Unless for some reason I’m a dumb stupid idiot and that doesn’t add flinch chance.

fading walrus
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Even if he had aggravation, he has no native flinch effect on kit

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His passive is a set 30%

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Like staggering

forest aurora
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Well that sucks. At least it was worth a try.

fading walrus
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So iirc it doesn't get buffed by csmm "more likely moves effects" either

forest aurora
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It’ll make the para more consistent though and doesn’t take much grid space though, so I guess no harm done.

fading walrus
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HE2 is kinda whatever for Evelyn

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I'd rather grab something else

forest aurora
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Not wrong, but I don’t have the energy to get more ideal spaces… they’re father in his other branches than I can do, iirc.

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Best thing I can maybe see is trying to reach for the S-move healing thing.

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…I got the healing passive. It’s not too much but hopefully a little bit goes a long way.

true lagoon
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synchro healing eh for ubs tbh

true lagoon
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ur not syncing with blue more than once and ub syncs either destroy you or tickle you

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so 20% max hp isnt a lot

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not to mention 2 b move uses

river prawn
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I use it always with Blue in UBs

true lagoon
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hm

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i suppose

river prawn
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As much as Blues healing is good, it's also burst heavy

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And limited by uses

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Any amount you can add to that is good

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Evelyn UB is a place where potion is better than B roost

true lagoon
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(insert expletive here)

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fucking darts crit the second hit

river prawn
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Similar to Leon UB

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Where there are enemy 4 bar single target moves

true lagoon
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actually am i dead

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only 60% 4 turns from second sync feels bad

fading walrus
river prawn
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I think you used B fleur cannon too early

true lagoon
true lagoon
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also you dont expect nat crits anyway

fading walrus
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Real #1255888121648644197 moment

fading walrus
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It's why I run vigi on everything

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Even stuff with crit shield like ssmina

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Because the moment the shield drop you get nat crit

true lagoon
fading walrus
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I lost a run with 1/5 nemona because she got crit twice in a row by surf>EQ through paldea circle

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Just as crit shield ran out

forest aurora
fading walrus
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Well second sync has 50% crit odds

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And +2 crit moves are 80%

forest aurora
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It does, just would’ve lived if it hadn’t crit. Little salty about it cause it was a somewhat decent run.

fading walrus
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Yeah triple vig in ub is rarely a bad idea lol

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Even tho penny can steal the first DH+ all

forest aurora
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Sent the B move a bit too early

snow spruce
#

@low coral btw can Ice team + Arc Steven do all UBs ?
especially Palmer and especially Noland. Red can tank the Fissure with his protect, but idk if they have enough damage to clear Noland before the EQ
it worked with Chase, but Chase > Steven for the ice team

low coral
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I can try, but idt Steven provides enough damage

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The comparison would be more into Blue than Chase

true lagoon
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when should i be using b fleur cannon

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cuz it only does like 25k

low coral
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But Blue provides better damage to special teams and has Initial Guard himself

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Alongside Steven running thr risk of messing quad

vale pivot
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Alright
UB Latios just beating my ass

low coral
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As well as a inferior Master / Arc Passive

true lagoon
#

whoever said this didnt look too bad is lying lol

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do you think froxanne nuking would be better than sstr since side wipe is kinda helpful?

vale pivot
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I don't have NC Blue, Arc Suit Steven, SS Nemona, NC Leaf or Penny, how am I going to make this UB?

true lagoon
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you die

snow spruce
true lagoon
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like idk how else ur meant to do that lol

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surviving the initial luster purge is hard even with those units (well except for 3/5 nc blue)

vale pivot
low coral
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The problem is not the 3 SMUN

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It's missing the rebuff

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Weakens the nuke and doesn't unlock the B

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Well, the B is unlocked by Steven, at least

snow spruce
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Steven unlocks the passive

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yeah

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but still

low coral
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But the damage is reduced regardless

snow spruce
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Arc units auto-unlocking NC Leaf and NC reds B-moves is kinda nifty

vale pivot
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Any Arc

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another UB that I can't do because I don't have NC Blue

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I hate you, Fluid Fortification

river prawn
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Piercing blows can shine

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You still want spatk drops

low coral
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The problem is more so that quality of most Pblows units

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Outside of Leon

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Who already debuffs well

snow spruce
#

actually I wonder how bad Leon UB would also be for Ice team-Steven.
He is doable without status, but it would be more difficult (and because of lowered damage there is more risk to run out of WZT before you can win, and Irida only has 2 uses), and so far they never needed to do him without status
.. yeah, Steven isnt really a great fit for that team

shrewd marten
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So what is eve

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Gimmick

low coral
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You'll lose the field effect

river prawn
#

Idk how well Victor performs

low coral
#

It already is annoying with Cynthia if you keep syncing with Red

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What makes it far more manageable because Cynthia summons Fighting Zone

snow spruce
#

do peole generally agree that Leon is the 2-nd hardest UB? I honestly have him a good deal above Anabel and only behind Nita
only Noland can be equally annoying depending on your lack of damage guards
of course he is real easy with full electric team, but thats a different matter. He can be pretty hard for offtypes

low coral
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Yeah

river prawn
#

Anabel is just a hard weather check

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But recent clears show you can afford much more

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Like tanking with Oak Nidorino

fading walrus
low coral
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She's not just that

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Anabel's offenses are pretty high

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And Oak's not a bad tank, he's just lacking on the physical side - exactly where Rock comps shine

river prawn
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I took it ouf context

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But I feel her damage is more forgiving than Leon

shrewd marten
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It’s probably just the max move

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Also what’s eve gimmick

river prawn
#

But I personally hate Leon UB because of the sleeps

shrewd marten
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Like ncleaf

fading walrus
river prawn
shrewd marten
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So permadebuff

true lagoon
#

isnt nc leaf like super troll against leon

fading walrus
shrewd marten
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No?

fading walrus
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But she can still work there

shrewd marten
#

Ncleaf geeta ssmorty

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I have to imagine you can do other things with it but that’s the most obvious thing

true lagoon
fading walrus
#

You can always find a way to make it work

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Look at the SS nemona clear Vs anabel

river prawn
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For Anabel you need a sun overwrite

fading walrus
#

Eh not even

shrewd marten
#

Is there a clear that doesn’t get rid of sun

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Pretty sure still no

river prawn
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No

fading walrus
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No

river prawn
#

SS Nemona is useful for Anabel just don't set sun

fading walrus
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But the nemona clear doesn't overwrite nemonas sun in one instance

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Because they use bulldoze and buff

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After first sync

river prawn
#

They still have team sunbathe

true lagoon
fading walrus
#

So by setting your sun there it runs out

fading walrus
river prawn
#

Yea she is not

shrewd marten
#

She has like one tile that cares about sun

fading walrus
#

2

shrewd marten
#

Otherwise you can freely overwrite it

fading walrus
#

But one is debuff related

crude drumBOT
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<:MASTER_PAIR:967451573334728715> Paldea Pride:

Powers up the physical attack moves of all allied sync pairs by 20%. Reduces physical attack move damage taken by all allied sync pairs by 25%. The more allied sync pairs with the Paldea theme you have on your team, the higher these percentages are. (Each additional sync pair powers up moves by 15% and reduces damage by 3%. The maximum power-up is 50%, and the maximum damage reduction is 31%.)

Ancient Scream:

Increases the user's Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by 2 ranks when it uses Booster Energy or an ally turns the weather sunny.

Energetic Student Council President:

Reduces the user's sync move countdown by 1 when its Pokémon uses a status move. Applies Paldea Circle (Physical) to the allied field of play when the user's Pokémon uses a status move.

Fruitful Attack:

Except in certain circumstances, successful hits with the user's following attacks become critical hits: Pokémon's moves or sync move. Charges the user's move gauge by 1 when its attack move hits.

Themes:

THEME_TYPE Fairy | THEME_REGION Paldea | THEME_TRAINERGROUP Rival

river prawn
#

And her b move activation has nothing to do with sun

true lagoon
#

well then guess im wrong

fading walrus
#

Anyway, there's a situation where ovewriting Anabel sun with yours is fine if yours is non extended

river prawn
#

Still needs a second weather setter in team, but cool nonetheless

fading walrus
#

Yeh Anabel weather problem is the start

neat needle
#

Is Evelyn EB ez or hard?

small basin
#

Depends on your roster. If you have ss gladion it's relatively easy

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I would say its among one of the easier ones though, but can be hard if gimmicks are left unchecked

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Gotta keep it debuffed

coarse lotus
#

ig Penny ploughs through gimmick quite well

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but need good timing on bmove

tight quail
#

I've got invested nemona for this ebe. But not magerna. Not able to keep it's spatk in check. Also, the initial luster purge is a damn nuke.

#

What are some good options for this latios fight?

low coral
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You can consider using Anni Lillie

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Nemona covers Atk and Def, Lillie covers SpA and Spe

fading walrus
#

You'll need a Spdef dropper

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You need Spdef and spa with nemona

tight quail
#

I tried hydreigon. I came close. But the spdef and speed buffs kept racking up. Scream tail, hydreigon and zapdos is what I tried. Is there a better tank than zapdos for this? Solgaleo will do better than hydreigon who has great aoe debuffs?

low coral
#

Do you have low rarity deluxe cookies?

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You can give Hydreigon the Mind Games 2 Lucky Skill

tight quail
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No, I don't. I used them up trying to get sharp entry on something. Haven't been grinding gauntlet recently.

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Would thunderbolt red be better option? But he cant keep spatk buffs in check

jaunty coral
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I almost did it with the rats

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Like

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ALMOST

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If i had saved that protect from ash i would have won 100%

tight quail
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I don't have ash rat. He seems to be good in all ebe

jaunty coral
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Earthquake killed everyone

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But if i did that protect and synced right after i would have won

tight quail
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Fuck trying to use fairy types. Barely did it with this squad

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The hail recoil really put in the work.

wind tapir
uncut drum
earnest panther
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Here.

spice frost
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I am using
tapu fini
Ash and pikachu/NC Marnie
And NC leaf

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I have NC red but not blue

earnest panther
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what are the move levels?

spice frost
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Ash is at 5 the others are at one

earnest panther
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😬

spice frost
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I have other sync pairs just not the ones I see others using

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Am I able to beat it you think or not?

earnest panther
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I can tell you right now, Fini is not good for this at 1/5, you have no defense buffs and only relying on Rain Dance/sunny day which is detrimental for this battle.

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you CAN beat it however. but Tapu Fini is not helping much

spice frost
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Yeah but without the gradual healing leaf can't survive long enough

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I have Bertha for sandstorm or may for rain

earnest panther
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do you have anyone who can use the sandstorm?

spice frost
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I have Nihlego but I don't have a support for it

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At least not leveled I might have some not, let me look

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The only 5 star I have for it is Mc and regirock, unfortunately

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If I can't beat it with my sync pairs that's fine I was just close and was curious if I was just not thinking about it right

earnest panther
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Were you focusing on the sides first?

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because if you were..... don't.

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focus on mid, always.

spice frost
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I wasn't, they were knocked out by marnie when I was using her, but then lost right after

earnest panther
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ok, I was thinking it was when you were using Ash

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the biggest thing though is that, you will need to beat it before their second sync

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which should be enough time, how much HP did Red have?

spice frost
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With ash he had a little less then half

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With marine he had more then half

novel fog
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Idk why this UB is hard for me

final yacht
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because it actually kinda is PrycePain

novel fog
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Yes but

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Fairy

final yacht
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I gave it a shot and I saw NC Blue getting one shot

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I just quit right after

novel fog
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It feels like it's meant for SS Gladion but I still can't beat it

earnest panther
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you need to get rid of that +2 spatk first turn

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Nc blue can survive

final yacht
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guess which type can't lower even 1 Sp Atk

novel fog
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Normal

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No but seriously

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What's the best team for it for non NC Blue havers?

final yacht
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check the doc LanceShrug

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maybe you can replicate smth

novel fog
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Oh people submitted already?

final yacht
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of course they did

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people are crazy

novel fog
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My Mix Leaf is 2/5, I would've tried that water clear :(

final yacht
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submitting dc clears: zzz
submitting ub clears: real shit

novel fog
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Real

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I can't replicate any of those

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Blue is the problem

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Not sure what I feel about this, any thoughts?

snow spruce
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give Blue Initial Guard

humble gyro
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By one sync

warm haven
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that team looks good

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you just have to make sure evelyn doesnt have not even +1 sp.atk

novel fog
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Doable, it's mf gladion that likes to miss

novel fog
warm haven
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+1 sp.atk = instant death

novel fog
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Gladion has so much stuff to do with spatk defbuffs

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I forgot steven has innate synchro healing

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Can keep me alive real good tbh, no EXR sadly

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Had a perfect run and then I was confused why NC Leaf's sync was hitting Base Ethan numbers

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Then I realised she was running a utility grid

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1AM but I ain't sleeping till it's submitted

fossil schooner
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Gladion lowkey washed but we good 🗣️🗣️🗣️

novel fog
fossil schooner
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don’t need +6 on Blue or Steven

humble gyro
humble gyro
fossil schooner
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yep

humble gyro
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Hmmm

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Mine is 2/5

novel fog
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And Gladion to not miss

novel fog
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Leaf +6E, Gladion +2E

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Steven is 1/5, nothing special

fading walrus
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NGL penny really putting in work against these debuff heavy requirements UBs, especially with dha+

novel fog
neat needle