#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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No boost
But the gimmicks are a pain in the ass
You can check the pin for the summary I have written on how to counter each of the upcoming EBs
NC Leaf and NC Blue counter almost all of them
And i guess all of the arc pairs as well?
Is there info on weaknesses type of this?
Hold on
SS Mina good on unova one i guess
Johto — Electric/Poison
Alola — Dark/Ground
Galar — Ice
Unova — Fire/Fairy/Water
Kanto — Rock
Rock
Ah hell nah
That one JP guy who got NC Blue from daily must be feeling really good rn
There we go
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THANK YOU SO MUCH (人´∀`)。゚+
The bonus unit according to the region I guess?
No bonus
These EBs are FFAs
Ahhh whoops okeiii thanks for the info again 🙏
I'm going to write out the rotation
I have a feeling the Arc Duo can duo most/all of them
Definitely not the Johtrio EB
You have to deal with interference
immunity cookie
SS Kris can inflict a random interference on your team
randomly flinch/trap/confusion ?
maybe just put flinch a immune cookie and try to bruteforce/heal the rest
They have interference multipliers
Even if Arc Steven is extremely durable, if Steven gets trapped, then he'll definitely die
@jade marsh How do you propose I write the EB rotations?
@low coral sorry for ping, but if you have time / another idea i'd be glad to try it 👍
(Also anyone else if they want, i did just ping the one that helped me)
Who actually beat the Anabel ebe😭

Oh, I just saw you got Anabel
Try her
She can greatly reduce the damage between Reflect and crit sheild
And she can also Max Guard Gloria for one extra Damage Guard
What sync grid is that for sycamore
She doesn't have Head Start, and i saw a run with her in the doc with that
And i don't have the cookies rn
Still give it a try
Also, is every 5* you have EX?
You don't need all EX characters here, so you might have hidden someone else good
I don't really have an hidden 5* that can pull it off i'm afraid
All my Flying pairs aren't EX'd tho, that may be a issue, but i vowed to not ex any untile Kahili got her ex, since i want her to be the 1st one, for that i was excited to pick Cinderace from the Select today lol
Btw, ill try with Anabel, ill tell you how it goes
Ig first ebe will be ok
Coz electric
Im doing the accessible team from the pin doc and i watched the video but what lucky skills are they using
No ok, it sadly doesn't work out well
Do send the other 5* still
Go for Redlax
He should make you deal enough damage and accelerate sync enough
Do you have Adrenaline Lucky Skill on him?
Yep
But also
He's the 1st one i tried with
I struggle with the side pokemons when i use him
But you have a new Gloria grid now
Nope
I'm always stuck like this
That guy with 12% hp got hit by a se+ sync, and during the run i reduced his def. by 2 thanks to snorlax, i think i just can't
Thanks for the help and your time btw
has no one tried a nita clear w dc gladion?
Y him?
Does using bounce not work
Not really
Why? are you timing it correctly?
just cuz hes on type w speed debuffs, wondered if someone had come up w a team that uses him
dc gladion is weavile
the unfortunate part w him is his sync is physical but icy wind is special and he cant buff his own offenses at ALL so he’ll need expensive support still
maybe a team w irida and nc blue
No problem
I’ll just use ncblue and nc Steven

I’ll MAKE him clear

have fun w the sandstorm
Leon done with the Duo-Cheren team - and with this its +1 all UBs team
Nice
Nice
What move levels for the arcs
5/5 and 4/5 steven
I see
What move level is cheren?
3/5, but 1/5 is fine too
finally got to beat Darach thanks to selecting SS Diantha
Did Duo-SSTRed clears on Palmer and Leon, but getting a bit stumped on Noland (last one left). I thought he would be easy due to damage guard, but..
this was my best attempt, the 7 PMUN attack didnt kill him, I guess due to low sync buff number
https://streamable.com/gzlhw8
Maybe this one needs to sync with SST Red instead, not sure how better it is without electric rebuffs and low Cakewalk
anyone tried him with Red ?
don't use guard early on
Palmer was nice and easy
I tried that too, it was even worse tbh.
let steven die, sync with cynthia, use guard on cynthia before his big Eq
I did that, it wasnt even close, much worse than the attempt in the video. Steven dying early slows everything down
plus the EQ kills Red too -> even slower
I mean your whole team is dying to eq
with steven dying early it felt like the damage ramp isnt fast enough
NC silver is much better for this than SST Red
Noland cant even be paralyzed, so no Static Shock 3. Syncing with Red probably isnt an option
anyway if anyone does that clear (Arc Duo + SSTRed on Noland) - ping me
Also has anyone tried the full Arcs Trio on Nita ? Is it impossible or maybe still doable with the right flinches?
blue doesnt have the dps for noland does he
Is there a substitute for nc silver in 4/5 arc steven and 3/5 cynthia teams?
5/5 cynthia for extreme battle is overkill
For what fight?
Hmmm any fight truthfully
I assume anabel is still kind of impossible without 5/5 or nc silver
The UB battles sorry
I finally did it. I defeated Anabel EBE part 2. I had to use support candies to increase the move levels for my SS Morty and Penny. For Penny, I increased her move level to 4 just so that I could unlock Unfortuitous 9. The final team I used was SS Morty 3/5, BP Valerie 3/5 and Penny 4/5
Help! Any team suggestions for take on Anabel EBE part 2 here are my rooster
Do you have BP Valerie?
There's a f2p team with BP Valerie. Try that
Johto ebe will be good
Rats
Which was the one that you used? Was it with Bertha?
I used the best fairy team in the game lol(penny instead of mina)
It was doom who used that bertha team
Oh what’s the best?
Ss Mina/penny + ss gladion + ss wally
For that specific ebe tho, ss nemona is better than ss gladion
Sadly I don’t have any of them except for Penny
Oh you are asking for clearing the stage?
Penny + bp valerie should kill that stage without issues. No need to change the weather even
What is argentas gimmick?
It was very difficult. If you don’t change the weather, it becomes even worse considering that stupid weavile uses very painful attacks like triple axle and giga impact that are powered up in hail
Granted i used ss wally and ss gladion but my penny survived just fine thanks to her bmove stealing stats and restoring hp
If it's that much of a problem then switch weather ig
Alright next reset time for 5 battles
How to beat argenta? Alrdy beat darach and lucy
Bring a wheater setter, a very good tank and any interference spammer/double rebuffer
Or you can stall her but it's not as accessible for a newer account
I have as cynthia 3/5 and as steven 1/5, who should the other be? Tried using ss lyra but didnt work
Let me guess, you didn't save a rebuff and a sandstorm for post 50% hp.
I think those two could clear Argenta without too much problem with any decent third
Probably someone who can debuff offences
Also i shouldnt let argenta sync at 50% when hail came up again right?
I did
But at wround 20% or smth her sync instanly kills cynthia idk why
You should overwrite rain preemptively when you know you're about to proc 50%
Those two really shouldn't struggle for Argenta imo.
I guess ill try again
Like, when you get to 51-52%, queue iron head with Steven and sandstorm with Cynthia
Prob just skill issue
If you can't defeat her in time, just give everyone Vigilance.
I mean if you're not a veteran UBs are still hard
Yeah having vigilance on Cyn will give you better odds
Since Steven should take ages to go down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14w6DKzlU4
watch this, it mgiht help maybe
not to duo it (you dont have the move levels for it), but just a get a general idea of the fight
yes
we call these 3 ubs the weak three
Alright ok, others require specific MFs?
Yes and no. All of them are designed with specific units in mind but are clear-able without those units.
Is there a list where who counters which UBs?
If you've check the pinned doc, the most used units in each stage is basically the counter.
Like SST Red in Leon or Irida in Nita.
Damn ok, gotta wait and collect more units then
Anyone able to assist me with the extreme battle? I don't have a very good fairy striker but I have both Mina and penny
Would something like arc Cynthia work?
No, unless you have specific teammates and investments on her
Can you show me your Fairy and Paldea roster?
Remember that investing multiple thousand gems in units just to get 300 gems is not a very good investment if the character isn't one you like
@snow spruce
If you get center to 50% before the 2nd sync, it's a win
Try denying the left side, I couldn't get Center to 50% here because I needed to reset sandstorm, but you should be able to since you have 5/5
I'll try later, thx
In all those Cynthia+Steven teams (with cheren/silver/red etc.) - how viable is it to replace Steven with NC Blue and still do all the clears?
someone would need to test it, but from physical and sync up, flinch, team endurance, def debuffs, I don't think it's viable
The closest performance would be with Red due to Electric rebuff compensating partly
With Silver, it's a direct downgrade, and by quite the margin
Noland prob would be easier because of entry DG
Anabel, Thorton, argenta, darach, lucy, nita and gio would be the same I think
Not sure about Palmer
there's not a chance thorton would be the same
Well not the same but clearable I mean
ok I think I can still do noland with 3/5
Tomorrow's the day of true pain
done
I can upload to the doc if you think it's worth it, but I'm sending here first
I mean, it's your own clear
Brilliant. Turn denial solves Noland
I had my move order wrong which was messing the endure points
so the dmg was there, just being gated by those
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733
updated.
Btw its looking like the Cynthia-Steven-SST Red might be a no deaths team even..
this game will EoS without powercreeping red
Well the next step would be to try:
Arc Cynthia NC Cheren NC Blue
Arc Cynthia SST Red NC Blue
unless there is another dps besides red/cheren/silver that can allow Cynthia-Steven to beat all UBs
I think it's now clear that Cynthia > NC red
I have had her as the best damage dealer since datamine day.
Uber+ tier even 
I dont really do the whole ~hybrid classifications tbh in Masters. Its either Damage Dealer or not (=support/tank)
how is she not a damage dealer 
The multi pairs are basically a tech + striker + support 
All of them do dmg, have debuffs/rebuff and lots of utility
Yeah
Lance's utility is lacking imo
And Steven's damage is not that good either, but it's extremely good for the type of unit he is
Waiting for the day that a MF creeps arc units
Yeah but I think he can tank very well
Lance already is worse than some MFs
LMFAO
Unlocking Relentless at 4/5 while his innate is Sp. Def. debuff for being a physical sync
MFs can always have a stronger pair than arcs but what i like of arcs is that they come with rebuff and that makes them difficult to be bad
Not sure if the arc units are supposed to one up last year's annin units
they do have similarity with their respectives MFs of last anni
I have Arc Cynthia > NC Red and Steven >= NC Blue.
Lance vs NC Leaf is kind hard to compare, but .. he isnt worse at least ? idk
I find Leaf better
I havent even puleld Lance yet, doing dailies. But even when I do he will probably stay 1/5 forever
yeah
maybe they overnerfed lance because of his broken debuffs and crazy sync
Even the debuffs can be sometimes incovenient, I find
Steven and Lance contradict each other
Especially if you're trying to save SMUN for Hyper Beam
And then the enemy gets +3 Sp. Def
let's move to general strategy so we don't clog the chat here
true
I'd be really surprised if Arc Cynthia and Steven managed to brute force the Johtrio EB, but I know they'll be wiped
There, went to GSD
as a duo ? probably not. with some 3-rd should be easy
You need a status unit
the 3-rd just for utility .. Cynthias solo damage is enough
And you also need Interference Immunity on the whole team
nc leaf / SS Mina / SS lear ..who else has that ?
Idt Johto ebe will be that hard
Well, Steven AoE debuffs Sp. Def., but SS Ethan has Mind Brace 4 so you cohld be unlucky too
NC leaf probably hard-counters Johto EB
NC Blue and NC Leaf counter almost all the EBs
Arc Cynthia-Arc Steven-NC Leaf should be able to do all 5 upcoming EBs/mini-UBs
or Arc Cynthia-NC Blue-NC leaf
Nc blue?
I'm still worried about the NC Kantrio EB
We should not use sun or rain or something?
Nc leaf
Defense debuff sure, but enemy NC Leaf has Team Solar Immunity
Oh they are anni kanto trio
Yes
Ok
Oh yeah, if you don't inflict a status condition on the Johtrio EB, then they also gain x3 defensive stats
I don't think NC Blue will be good for the Unova trio EB
Because you need status immunity on your team
NC leaf has team status immunity
I think NC Blue + NC leaf + Cynthia covers everything ?
Maybe yeah
Cynthia doesnt even need sandstorm to do very good damage. And they dont have nearly as much HP as UBs
Well, if sun wears off, then the team is practically fucked unless the enemies are at low HP
blue can also AoE heal status twice if something happens
On the other hand, Cynthia's B Move has accuracy
Which means unless you put Acuity on her, she'll miss some attacks on the Unova EB
Oh, I didn't see that
and sure crit too
Oh yeah, NC Leaf on the NC Kantrio EB has this:
Passive 9: Overexposure 1
Passive 10: Sunny Disposition
Which means literally no using sun
well you use her sun for the Johtrio EB (for immunity) and when/if you need to overwrite enemy sand
and Cynthias sand for all the others
I assume
What's Overexposure 1?
Lowers the target's Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense and Speed by 1 when the user's move against it is successful when the weather is sunny
I will use nc blue vigilance of grid and give him interference immunity
I think you need aoe interference immunity, not only for tank
Ik
SS Kris has this:
Passive 10: Hit: Team Apply Status Change 9
What's Leaf's first move?
Doesn't sound that bad if it's single target
And she has Sunburst
None for all
I see
Wait, no, her first is Flare Blitz, no?
This was surprising
硬い。ピンチ状態から耐える耐える。
マスターパッシブ込みの実質耐久数値は防御332特防369なので実際にフェスサポと変わらない耐久と味方全体へのダメージ軽減を兼ね備える。
対特殊のプラターヌ、対物理のルミタンという感じ。
ルミタンのボードパワー62です。
・究極高難度バトルの動画一覧
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT96rMY2x9yzQlsfzw-xkmnhS_d4ThYfq&si=AzeMO61LkJvG0-vf
#ポケマス
#ポケモンマスターズEX
#Pokémonmasters
Morgan actually being better than I expected
@snow spruce You think 3/5 Cynthia can be able to post-sync the Kantrio EB?
I mean, we do have downside up units so fire teams can still be used
I misread Blue's 1st move rather than Leaf's 1st move
That depends
Flare Blitz is extremely painful under sun
Ss morty gave me enough confidence when he survived leon ub under sun the whole time
All you have to do is either read Absol's pastebin or check the pin for the gimmicks
Wht abt Johto ebe
Ig it won't be much difficult with rats
No status = 3x bulk?
Yes
Rats or poison team should clear it easily then
SS Roxie is definitely made for the Johtrio EB
Weather for kanto
Status for johto huh
Missing some stuff
Geeta is easy poison too
Roxie, geeta and oleana are all status queens
You have the offensive gimmicks down, but how will you immune the interference dealt to your team?
Nc blue can get interference immunity
Sstr has grounding wire and kinda unlimited terrain
I'm gonna do those stages with a "surprise me" mindset at this point
Sstr can decrease spe def anw
What about the other 3 stages
Wht are the gimmicks
If you have NC Leaf, then she's a perfect 3rd
Oh yea I do
Tho I feel like the Alola EB is attuned towards Brycen-Man and SC Lyra/Arc Cynthia
I think those battles weren't meant for anyone in particular
Just some units can cover more gimmicks than others, but not necessarily will be stellar there
Then what about the Kantrio EB needing defense debuffs, being rock-weak and needing to replace weather?
Probably because they're essentially allowing a full roster? Still confused by them going with those stats if the EBE has no bonus
Because 2 certain champions of the rock are definitely made for this fight
Silver?
And the other?
I mean, two of them combined
Uh
Not individually
Idr
Diantha
Dianthacie
Ye
Rock zone
Defense debuff
Wow kanto stage literally dies to silver and diantha duo
Considering that NC Red has 333k HP, it really feels like the fight was made for SS Diantha on the mid and NC Silver for the weather and sides
But if you want to be an ass and ruin SS Diantha's Kekwok multiplier, use Silver's B Move and flinch Blue to make him use X Speed All 
Offensive stats low
Galar would be a good Ice team with Grusha support
I have a feeling SS N to lower the offensive stats
Yeah, if he's 3/5
Oh wow
Nc blue is perfect support for this with NC red and irida
Ok, I'm actually leaning towards Grusha being made for the NC Galar EB
I don't have her so idk wht she does
Because Marnie has AoE debuff with Double Drop
So yeah, maybe Grusha and SS N are made for the NC Galar EB

We want team impervious unit
So far these EBE are not looking that difficult with amt of good sync pairs
But we will know once they release
And that is tomorrow
all of these are 300 right
Like I thought abt Nita UB while having red and irida
Yes
how many teams have we had that can beat Argenta without ever removing her rain?
Can you help me with ultimate Anabel
afaik only rats + blue
Hmm. Arc Lance should be able to
Post roster of your 5* limiteds
not sure because he can't sync if he wants to keep them for the second bar
What site is that again
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
for Anabel - Nc blue + Arc Cynthia + NC Serena
Ok and how do I use them
I already did that, it can
Any screenshot/video?
is Nita the only UB that the full Arc trio cannot beat ?
just spam their attacks and debuffs, overwrite Anabels sun with Cynthias sand. Easy win
Ok thanks it's working
Zerena / Cerena / Blue can also beat Argenta under rain
Well, Cerena would rather not have rain as well 
But yeah, if it's there, might as well do with someone who gets a boost instead of just being harmed
speaking of, why cant they do it? lance has flinch too and a nuclear bomb so it could be possible
Also the run probably being kinda miserable
It can be possible as well as requiring some months of RNG at the same time
Who do I sync with
EXed blue, than NC Serena (if she is 3/5)
well thats not a problem anymore, there is like ~4 Nita clears already with Arc Cynthia, all without removing sand
including even using NC silver.
Lance could theoretically work similarly
big difference is that silver’s flinch is guaranteed
lance is 30% 💀
you have a screenshot for that too ? 
It's an old run, there's a video even, not mine
看著沒有頂著雨天強殺水君的隊伍來補一個,瑟蛙是核心不用多說,也就電鳥的坦度能頂住對面雨天的強攻。第三位原本想上水C補傷害,但是對面雨天減傷和雨天回血小技能實在沒輸出,還得靠瑟蛙開拍打,結果突然看中了Z瑟,能挂禁止替換防減傷,還有大師被動提升全隊耐久,還同時用了兩個瑟妹,絕佳的隊伍!
Oh this guy
yeah let’s just ignore the speed gimmick and brute force the stage anyway
Lucy is so easy you can easily brute force her even off type
just slap on antitoxin/status immunity and off you go
did not expect it to be this easy while ignoring the raised speed
but then again I do have a fully invested Maxie and SS Gio so...
both 5/5 EXR 70 energy
surprised the UB clear doc doesn't mention Maxie much
Because he's pretty frail and has not really super synergetic partners for today standards
Also Lucy sides are bulky meaning it can take a while for him to hard focus mid
Grid
What are you supposed to do about Challenge: Those Blessed by a Deity? I have a 1/5 LV 150 EX Arc Cynthia with her EX role. Who else should I be using?
Someone who can debuff their stats for fluid fortification
Someone like masked royal or a2024 lillie
2024 lillie isn’t that good at debugging is she
Hm
That’s annoying to type
Solillie
Does anyone have any idea how many UBs do fully invested (like 3/5 or 4/5) arc Lance do? I was wondering if it is worthy to invest in him to higher level (mine is 1/5 now)
I assume he should be able to do all of them, but not exactly as carry for most
Yea I understand that. I have 5/5 Steven and 3/5 Cynthia and they already did the UBs I would like them to do. Don’t think Cynthia need 5/5 so my yellow candies are either going to Lance or save. But then I’m not sure whether he is worthy or not.
2 stats per attack isnt too bad
i think with grid she can get 3 actually
wait i lied she just has trip wire 2
zzz
So Arc Cynthia, Masked Royal, and who else?
I have all four chatelaine sisters at 3/5
you could do evelyn then, since she buffs both defenses
Hop would be a decent fit as well
Hop was definitely the right route. Thank you!
who are we getting first? Johto Trio?
ub in 5 days
oh it's today?how many gems per battle
we don't know the gems from the mine?
i'm not too sure
i only saw the hp of them, i'm assuming its going to be part 1 / part 2, so 300 gems per clear.
there's like 12 so if it's really a part 1 part 2 style with 300 gems we are gonna get a lot of gems
What’s the best way to tackle Thorton UB when I don’t have any of NC Kantrio?
i would check the pins to see which team i can replicate first
still pretty good gem drop o/
been checking the doc
looks like only one team is all pairs I have but I don’t have 5/5 Deoxys
can you show me your roster?
gimme about 10 minutes
just gotta clean up some dishes then I’ll boot up the sync pair collection site
just note these things when tackling Thorton:
- bring mixed dmg dealers to deal with Entry x3 switch
- bring a reliable status change inflictor, preferably rebuffer
- lowers Thorton's defense
Finally cleared this without NC Hop but this was insanely annoying.
move level for nc bianca? o.o
You legit cannot do enough damage with this team without sync ramping. Adrenaline 1 lucky skill on Cynthia was the missing piece.
3/5
Pretty sure she needs to have defense destroyer 2 to get damage rolling fast enough
you can try NC Rosa + NY Wallace + Alt Gloria
grid Gloria with Defense Crush 9 and sync nuke tiles
been considering candying NY Wallace, if that is anything to go off
i would try 1/5 out first
my fields overall are uh
kinda sad.
got 4 excluding the DC units and all 1/5
and all have been under candy consideration EXCEPT Volo
guys im planning to pull support select pokefair and wondering whether eilen or chase would be more useful for UB in general? would pick the one that more iften used in UB
I have yet to use either of them for an UB
For ub specifically elaine is generally better
For specifically ncred team chase is
yeah tried that team
If ur into frankensteining a team Elaine’s the better bet
enemy way too hard hitting
Wow this feature has become semi useless in the past week I guess 
I repeat that it always looked like this
The pokefair clears are always on the very bottom
And even before, there was only 1
My point is that it pushed all of the actual grass clears way down
yeah not doing Thorton for a while
checking to see what other UBs are at least realistic for me
so far I've done Darach, Palmer, Lucy, Noland
Anabel is a hard nope since no NC Serena
She doesn’t require cerena
oh me oh my there is literally ONE team and only ONE in that doc I have everyone
but I can't even use it cuz KriSS not 3/5 and SS Steven not 5/5
anyway with those things you suggested:
rats: dont have
fairy: assuming Mina is here which I don't have; even then 1/5 Wally and 1/5 Gladion aint doing anything
VLyra: dont have
arc: dont have
NC Red: dont have
This is not content where flexibility is really something you can complain about. Its designed to be the hardest content in the game for a reason.
yeah ofc
Some of the stages themselves are unfair like Palmer, but the stats are not.
yeah one of the clears in the doc I couldn't do for Palmer for a funny reason
I overinvested
turned out caking Riley messed something up
dont know how but that was...a thing
Palmer and Nolan and Nita are the three stages that are pretty much inexcusably awful
Noland took me one try since it got dumbed down to "use Falkner, Lana, and some good Flying damage"
of which I used Lysandre
Noland isn’t that hard but its barely something I can consider genuine stage design.
yeah just dodge everything or you take 92498209482390482390482390483294 damage with everything
what a nice stage amirite
we got stuff like that and then we got stuff like Lucy which is so easy you can just ignore the speed buff gimmick with brute force
yeah, did that for fun; turns out Maxie/SS Gio/SS Morty can demolish Lucy without debuffing speed
Lucy, Anabel, and Darach are good challenges.
The rest border way too much on gimmicks for me to give them a pass.
Darach made me appreciate Gordie as a nuker
oh yeah i have 3/5 lana now i can maybe do that
i personally think palmer is an interesting gimmick
you get time to set up, but you have to be ready for when it runs out
Nolan does the time limit thing better than Palmer
like, anabel also has a time limit
Palmer feels like a cheap rug pull
And borderline cheating
Where as Nolan makes sense killing you
Lucy is honestly a fun UB that I keep revisiting with weirder and weirder teams at this point
honestly when I set out with the Maxie/SS Gio/SS Morty clear it was moreso testing to see how well Maxie and Morty work
yes I forgot about the speed gimmick, that was actually accidental
i mean im not trying to tell you you have to love it but its not just 'instant nuke get fucked lol' which makes me appreciate it over some of the others
like i personally find anabel to be stupid and unfair and unfun
Interesting
today I selected Morty so I've been testing all over just to see what I can do
she has like seven more mechanics than she would need to be that difficult
SS Gladion is a finalist for my strike candies so I'm curious
rats rats rats
got 2 strikes on hand and they're prob going to either SS Gladion or NC Nate
Except for Nita the rats have cleared everything I think
it's basically a matter of do I want what's prob better or just the fun unit
the UB clear sheet has only ONE time Thunderbolt got used
Ash does not appear at all
Thunderbolt's clear has NC Blue and Irida
Yeah Ash would just die too fast
sstr has cleared nita
with irida
its nc blue irida sstr
That’s impressive but it also sounds like it would take ages to clear
i havent looked into it myself but its probably really awful
but the fact ground weak is able to clear nita is still very impressive
Nita is definitely the stage I am putting off until last
I can probably do Argenta today if I wanted but it also takes an eternity to have a semi solid run make it far.
feel that
argenta is very frustrating fot me
I almost got that Selene clear down but restrain kept disappearing right before the killing blow
cuz ss erika just doesnt work well for her stage
don't have Adaman so pain
ik theres a selene clear but its also selene
Selene isn't my idea of fun tbh
I'm honestly considering attempting SS Acerola/Selene/SS Morty
once Morty is 3 cake
rn he's 2 no cake
Thoughts about which UB I can do?
I assume Lucy and Anabel is solvable looking at the sheets
I've tried cobbling a darach team to no success a few months ago
But maybe with arc steven geeta arc cynthia he'll finally be solvable
There's a 3/5 summer acerola + 3/5 arc cynthia duo on argenta but I'm not sure if summer acerola is replacable
Is palmer doable?
who? o.o
Nita
change weather and drop speed iirc.
Ok
if in sand she gets 90% to dps and sync and sides buff speed by 2 instead of one and if her speed is raised she gets tripled defenses and 90% to dps and sync
aka extremely oppressive
you can try Arc Steven instead of NC Blue in Irida/SS Silver comp vs Nita
i'm not too sure about Anabel, but you can definitely beat Lucy
Yeah sounds about right, I saw a naomi duo on anabel so I assumed slotting a third would help
how the fuck
There's the duos that also require 5/5 arc cynthia, I assume even slotting bertha can't replace the sync sandstorms from the 5/5 node?
Well, it's because whenever Cynthia sets up sandstorm herself, she also activates ground zone
i mean how many times does she sync
So Dust Kicker is needed for perma ground zone
you already have 5 sandstorms just from bertha and cynthia
Haven't watched the solo (have so many solo vids to watch) so uhh
https://youtu.be/VAWVCyH7TvU?si=c9WhNBwFij8d_s-8
As in, duo run by naomi
skinny did this first but with 5/5 cynthia (https://youtu.be/v-A2Vp0-leQ?si=WVkGj51Hohv8SGzU) but I thought with a few optimizations she would be able to do it with just 2 sandstorms so yay! these two are seriously on another level
Team Grids & Lucky Skill: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009004037600&s0=4&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=4...
Not naomi the unit
and was insanely confused
Is palmer doable with arc steven ss may 3/5 and 1/5 glorace
i don't think so
I tried doing caked ssa cynthia 3/5 before I took a break
But that didn't work out either
^
Or is the positive water rebuff from acerola too irreplaceable?

Yeah that's what I'm thinking
Ah NC Rosa and not Arc Steven
For confusion?
Teeter dance spam every turn under 40% (or wherever her hp threshold is)
Arc Steven might be better, he also has rebuff from Multi EX
Makes sense
or you don't sync with him until after 50%
Yeah it's the nc leaf all ov4r again
Bertha also has trap
So trap spam with bertha?
Hmm thoughts on thorton?
Arc Steven Arc Cynthia Glorace?
Or SS May for third
Presumably his problem is just rebuff sources no?
you need to debuff his defense and bring mixed attackers too
Hmmm
Arc Steven + Mayziken + a strong special dmg dealer methinks
Ice Zone powers up Thorton too, keep that in mind
Arc Steven + Mayziken + SS Gladion

i prefer SS Steven, but SS Gladion is not a bad choice
I'll go with SS Steven too, gauge death isn't a fun idea
And innate rising tide letsgo
tbf Arc Steven uses 0 gauge while Mayziken is gauge friendly
SS Gladion himself also has good gauge
My only consideration is that my ss steven is 1/5 while my ss gladion is 3/5
So I'm not sure
Gakon, how do you propose I write the move rotations of all 5 EBs?
It would be annoying to flood the pins with all 5 EBs' move rotations if the people want to see the gimmicks of the EBs which is buried at the bottom
i think you can do a write-up of all 5, then link them below your EBE summary
Alright so so far it's
Lucy
Anabel
Argenta (?)
Nita (?)
Thorton (?)
That I can solve
Hmm what about the new UBs like Leon's
I've never seen it so what is the gimmick
Using electric terrain or status blockers to block sleep is the big one
He also has fire damage field via max move which you need to account for on your tank since its a huge hit
Hmm OK status immunity it is
Ah wait what about darach
He seems solvable with arc steven and arc cynthia + geeta?
Or lycanroc nemona
Bertha A Cynthia A Steven imo
0:00 - Nita
5:57 - Noland
8:27 - Giovanni
12:29 - Leon
17:24 - Lucy
20:19 - Palmer
23:39 - Argenta
28:24 - Darach
31:31 - Thorton
35:59 - Anabel
They will get Evelyn as well

Steven/Cynthia has duoed many and done all with a variety of thirds
Cynthia is like NC Red + Irida combined in one and Steven is basically physical NC Blue so it's really not a surprise they can do all.
Only Nita is the shocking one bc they do the whole battle when sandstorm is up (w NC Silver).
Arc duo + Silver doing Nita and Noland is the most insane thing 
Alright, will try that and report back
Oopsie on the ping
Real sorry

can i use arc cynt and steven 1/5 to beat nita?
no. both need 5/5 to beat nita 
Steven 100% needs 4/5 for atk & spatk debuff. Don't know about Cynthia tho.
Dust Kicker allows Cynthia for perma ground zone
Also, it's 5 EBs time
Johtrio EB too easy
With NC Leaf that is
johto ebe was so easy lmao
I was hoping for a round 2
same
Funny
Oh wells 300 gem drop
is it worth the trouble to figure out an f2p clear for this place
I do have a bit of time
Yes
If SS Kris did an attack move you would've been singing an entirely different tune
A lot of people would probably be interested
Good thing she didn't
She did
that's probably why Cynthia is dead?
If she didn't Cynthia would be alive
No I got flinched alot
What interference would've killed you?
Trap, confuse or flinch?
Flinch for sure
So what would've happened if SS Kris rolled flinch on your entire team?
Steven's potions did all the lifting
What carried you was the sandstorm chip damage
You had Dust Kicker, no?
No I forgot to pick that up
Well, I just get more surprised by the minute
She had the damage challenge grid
Ah no wait
I've mistaken Hit: Team Apply Status Change 9
AS Cynthia has it, which means if she uses Sand Tomb, then the entire team gets trapped
Then that means if SS Lyra flinches your main tank and SS Kris hits your tank, then your entire team gets flinched
True I got flinched alot
Well, if SS Lyra's passive was Ruthless 9 instead of Staggering 9, then she gets trap and flinch
I just tried to see how far it would take me
wonder if this ebe will get a f2p clear
Your entire team needs interference immunity
Or rather Unflappable
You're underestimating how tanky my team was. Steven heals alot with potion mpr
I told you Cynthia died at 3rd sync
You didn't have to deal with interference multipliers that much because flinch wears off easily
So there's that
Trap will probably be significantly worse than flinch
Trap would've been the demise of almost all teams if DeNA just implemented it this EB
Somehow I beat the SS Johto trio Extreme Battle with this team
I'm also suprised how you managed to brute force Robust Physique and No Status Condition: Def. x3 and Sp. Def. x3
Oh, how I wished trap was here on the Johtrio EB ||that way I can see the demise of the arc trio||
? Why would they? Even if it's team trap they just roll trap immunity and call it a day.
It's not like their dmg really need CS2.
You mean Interference Immunity
Now my question is, can it be done with only all of them at 3/5?
Probably, but it's definitely harder
So arc suits bad right?
That's where you going?
Nah, I just hate them for no reason 
Lmao
Need help on it

Pre-sync?
Just oneshot them is fun Until Lyra
Meaning?
Killed the middle before their 1st sync
Oh no, i think they did 1 sync
Did you kill Lyra?
Selene already fully counters the gimmicks so yeah
f2p has poor options for dropping spdef
you have a few haze setters and that’s that
Koga tho
Lucian lernora exist
The arc suits could probably brute force their way through all the ebes right? Maybe with one unit changing between battles
Now that I think about, AS Steven has Downside Up in his passive, so he can directly counter the NC Galar EB's gimmicks alone if 4/5
And he counters the Alola EB gimmicks all by himself too
Has anyone clear it with SS Hau?
I don't have the rats
First EBE Ever! 
SS Roxie and Piers went hard for that EBE
trying to watch a replay and it keeps crashing at the same point, do some of them just do that?
For some team you don't need unflappable actually.
beat her with this
Very easy
the gimmicks are in the pins.
sst red gamin?
what the heck .. all UBs with BT leon? He wasnt even on anyones radar and skinny drops this
crazy stuff
that's insane
1/5 is more than enough
now that I think about it - I was already thinking of using Oleana for all UBs with Cynthia and BT leon is, in a way, a ~better (?) Oleana (on a non poison team)
Done! 1/5, level 150 Ash (Just EX'ed today (finally)), 3/5, Level 150, EX'ed and EXR'ed NC Blue and 3/5, Level 150, EX'ed and EXR'ed NC Bede
Does she have Damage Guard for her and one ally? Ground weakness also holds her back and the lack of multiple aoe status infliction hurts in Leon UB
Leaf has Team Solar Immunity
Gameplay : Since there is no Theme Requirements. The Johto Trio is a Flinch team so to keep them from Flinching and get the Johto Vibe I'm bringing Neo Champ Silver even though I got Sygna Suit Red Thunderbolt to the Round.
Sync Pair(s) :
👑 Silver (Champion) & Tyranitar (Shiny ✨️)
⚡️Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
❄️ Jasmine (Holiday 2...
Feels like I'm the bully in this battle

sc zinnia gaming then
Offtype is possible
hrm o.o;
I have 1/5 Darkrai
Should I 3/5?
You can use anyone fitting the gimmicks
Not for this but generally
Ohk will try
I have NC Serena 1/5
I am gonna 3/5 her after red
There are too many Arc Duo UB teams now - its going to be a pain to clear the newest monthly UB with all of them.. 
I dont even have NC Silver or BT leon
Welp I was under the impression the newest extreme battles would have a power boost of sorts but guess not. How did you guys beat the Johto team?
Ok so this EBE is kicking my arse, apparently SS Hau still ain't great
Ideas for replacing him?
This is electric non-supports ftr
Or do I just offtype and pray I have the output
I think geeta/ss morty is a strong enough core, it just needs output
i dont have any of those pairs (assuming that pikachu belongs to ash
really thought id clutch this with ss piers but apparantly no
Have you tried griding mind games 9 ss hau you need to drop their spdef
Also ss morty needs interference immunity or unflappable
No bc that tile is bloody awkward to fit in
You have to lose power plant or cakewalk
And he doesn't
I just did it with ss morty/emma/geeta
Just keep throwing strong shit at it and you get it down not long after their sync
Oh nice was just saying since they have multiplier when you have interference
Fair
Morty had vigilance, geeta cs2 and emma hs1 for the cycle skip
It's largely just a case of "keep spamming four-bars"
You only need Unflappable
And tbh you need Vigilance more
Because SS Kris will chain with SS Lyra
He has Vigilance in grid anyways
Does he?
Always had it on skill
Oh right it's in that shit corner
I've got him gridded for mprs and potion stuff largely
Rock out.
How to beat Ethan's EBE?
most peeps are usin ss morty for this ebe. wonder why
Colress/Anni2Lillie/Arc Steven worked for me

He's one of the best sustain tanks in the game
Quite an easy EBE on this one
Read description for opponent informations.
=== Opponent details ===
- Status Conditions
All opponents gain the following advantages if they are not inflicted with any status condition:
- Base defensive stats are tripled (No Status Cond: Defense & Sp. Def ×3)
- Immune to critical damage (Robust Physique)
Per this stage design, take advant...
still trying to figure a possible f2p teams
atm even f2p dmg dealers with supports like Iono still struggles lol
Yeah I tried with Elesa or mg2 clemont
And it wasn't really happening without something like NC blue
tried Plumeria Iono Clemont earlier
all was well until kris surf ohko'ed plumeria lol
Im assuming the Johto event is near impossible with f2p team?
Want to beat it but my attempts at off-type dont work
I dont have any stand out electric types
Yeah you need a lot of Spdef drops
Which are really rare in f2p
さすがにオーキド強すぎた。
確定毒強いし回復強いし守るも強いしで...
これが配布でいいんですか?
#ポケマス #ポケモンマスターズex #pokemonmasters #pokemonmasterex
#高難易度 #f2p
Well would you look at that
Clemont was the right answer ig
BP Clemont?
Ye
They needed someone to cover the physical side defensively and paralysis without sacrificing Elesa's damage
I really don’t know what to do for the Johto Battle.
That 2.5k hp chip does a lot
This is honestly crazy lol
Eh, the EBE is pretty easy
It's just annoying for vast majority of f2p supports
I need to remember oak 2 exists lol
That unit is so good
could someone tell me what lucky skills this clear uses? they're in Japanese
and do you think i can get away with non ex Bertha 🤔
Is this possible with 4/5 elesa and 2/5 clemont?
I dont know the sync grids that well
immediately got mogged
i just beat that johto chall with AS cynthia, AS steven, and klara all at 1/5 😪
f2p struggles
I'll just wait for more F2P-friendly guides to come out, or see if there's clears with units I actually own.
For all 5 battles.
i got lucky pulling cynth and steven tbh. i dont spend money on the game hence why all my units are 1/5 😭
I don't really care.
Just because you got them using free Gems doesn't mean I have them too.
Have you seen this one: #1009557516369281075 message?
Looking at your roster it should not be even that hard
Ash + Volkner + a status tank should work
not even a status tank volkner does paralysis fine
just need a couple resets
i was js that im f2p and got it done with those units… lol
Damn I tried that and couldn’t get close
You mean with rats
i only have a rat
but still it was real easy with sst
only scary part was tanking sync cuz apparently they buff spdef a lot
IDK about the video, since it uses 6* for units I don't intend on upgrading beyond 5*
:pepega:
if u dont ex then ur not clearing shit
lol
oh wait he has me blocked anyway
There is no clear with no ex anymore really
Like the ones with no ex probably have a giga broken 6* sitting next to it and in that case what’s the difference
sorry bumping this 😅
Is Aura Cynthia the only pair that prevents the whole team from flinching?
Is that the one with Flareon?
There's a decent amount of units with team status/interfere immunity
Eevee Day coming in clutch 
So SS Kris does trap, but it's too late into the game
its not a whole team thing though unless ur talking about something different
the only one that has it as a permanent passive.
others can do it while they have a certain field up
"Team Staring Contest"
Prevents all allied sync pairs from flinching.
i meant the stage
like you just need interference immunity on your tank then ss lyra does jackshit
Swift 
when does that even show up
Just sync with it
Wow, they buff Sp Def pretty fast
Yeah, she's giving me some trouble
I used nc blue who has 1st sync : def and spe def low
Ig my tmr tank will also be nc blue
Then galar too
Or if you flinch her on move 2
I don't even know how to share a list of all my available units beyond this method.

