#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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I mean non-support base/EXR
Then just check the doc
oh grusha is support
thought it was tech smh
bianca has sup exr
paulo too
so just this one i think
Ah ok, so I'm the 2nd one then
I did do summ Liza 1/5 cheren askyla
But it wasn't particularly noteworthy
So I didn't up it in doc
my UB difficulty list:
- uber: Nita
- top: Anabel, Leon
- High: Thorton, Palmer
- Mid: Argenta, Darach, Noland
- Easy: Lucy
high and mid are probably interchangeable .. or even all in the same tier
I still think Anabel is worse than any other just because of sheer rng factor
Heat wave burn and crits my behated
It's weird cause I almost NEVER got burned by Heat Wave when trying to beat Anabel
For me the worst part was getting MP Refreshes on May's Rain Dance lmao
Cause I had no other good Rain setters
I forgot, does Anabel get HE10 (100% burn chance) while sun is up ?
or was that only Moltres LA ?
it was 1 of them
that's Entei LA on bar 3
Moltres has guaranteed burn on Bar 2 if the weather is sunny
She gets Sacred Fire though, which is a 50% Burn chance
Actually wait I think her Sacred Fire is guaranteed Burn
Yeah it is
UB Anabel has HE1, so it's a guaranteed burn
Amy beatable UBs? missing Leon, Nita, Palmer and Anabel
SS Mina, NC Red and NC Cheren can clear Nita
Ah but freeze timings can be tough
That team doesn't rely on freeze
Oh what
NC Rosa, NC Serena and May can beat Anabel methinks
Just dps?
Both NC are silly
What if I candy SS Lysandre to 2/5 for some tiles? is he any better than May?
Just grid Red with Hail on 1st sync tile and time it to replace sand on 80% threshold
May is there to change sunny weather
You can't replace her
Then SS Mina can surely replace NC Rosa
Oh yeah
You need replace Sun
Then Lysandre works
At 1/5? or better to 2/5 and 3/5 later?
Try with 1/5 first
1/5 is enough with NC Serena
I think he gains some nice tiles from 2/5
NC Serena carries anyway
Oh okay
Dont candy pairs to 2/5
Anything that I should know ?
For Anabel?
Yeah
Anabel setup sun on entry and after every sync
So time rain to replace sun
You can give everyone Vigilance if they fail to clear before Anabel uses DH+
She's mad tanky tho, will I be able to best her before 2nd sync?
So just sync with Cerena I assume?
She got support EXR too
First with SS Mina and then Cerena?
Wdym more setup?
Should be okay i suppose, but the only way to confirm it is you giving the team a try
Yes
Does she not have endure AT ALL?
Anabel has 60% endure
She has
Yes
Remember she has really high HP
But that bc she also has Latias passive
What is it
With can increase dmg she received
Aw
The more buffs she have, the less dmg she takes. And she buffs her stats like crazy
Is SS Lysandre the best 3rd for that teamcomp or I can replace it with someone crazy but offtype?
It is made for her
Ah I get it
It is up to you
Serena doesn't need more debuffs
If that's the case I'll stick with Lysandre
When should I use his Bmove?
With 4sync buffs under rain?
You should play against the stage now
Aoe debuffs?
Yeah. Serena alone isn't enough
Could NC Leaf work
Yes, as long as you don't attack with her
Yeah haha, just gonna grid her with MH1 and potion MPR
Just spam leers
Serena do damage, Mina tanks. As long as Anabel doesn't sync twice you're good
The thing is with NC Leaf I don't have that extra DPS to break the 60% endurance in time for my 3rd sync
I have to waste it or just sync on one of the sides
which leads to Anabel syncing twice
You can use her B Move after Anabel Sync
And use rain immediately
So you still have dps from Leaf
Will it actually make any difference ?
Nah, you just have extra dmg from Leaf
Oh once sun is refreshed once with her Bmove I can pretty much spam it
That's a good idea, gonna see how it goes
SS Mina field EXR when 
Oh nvm she's fairy
tech incoming
No they don't
Only Anabel has Fluid Fortification
Shouldn’t lysssandre oneshot it
according to the doc:
"Fluid Fortification: The net sum of stat ranks that the user has determines how much damage it will take from attack moves and sync moves
- Invulnerable: When the net sum is 10 or above, mitigates 100% of the damage taken
- Reinforced: When the net sum is between 1 and 9, mitigates damages by 55% to 95% (+5% per rank)
- Weakened: When the net sum is between 0 and -9, mitigates damages by 50% to 5% (-5% per rank)
- Vulnerable: When the net sum is -10 or below, doesn't mitigate damages"
FF never makes the user take increased damage. At -10 or lower you just go back to the normal 0%. -9 or higher - it starts to get mitigated.
so "vulnerable" doesnt actually mean extra damage taken, it just means the normal 0%.
Is this correct ?
dont know, just curious about the exact mechanics
with bmove? he's far from it
NC Leaf does not seem to work, I might just try SS May for the chip damage on the sides
Or maybe NC Cheren
Actually trying 3/5 Paulo
His max move allows me to save 1 rain for later, he has sync acceleration, sprint EX and support EXR, and not to forget his Bmove
So the enemy has net 9 debuffs they STILL have 5% damage reduction?
I love how Argentina one shots everything with her 2nd sync move with no buffs

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Messi GOAT power

Ronaldo ub when
Any tips on how to deal with the Arcanine in Anabel's UB? he oneshots SS Mina even with fairy zone
On what sync cycle are you on?
SS Mina -> Cerena
How do I beat the new ub
Ways to avoid Fissure and Earthquake
You have to sync with Blue and Lana first before Cheren
Cheren must weaken Noland to remove his endures
I wouldn't sync with both
Cheren can probably break the 80% threshold before the 2nd sync
And having MP Refresh on Wide Guard is a must
Also, assuming she gets an Ultimate battle, Evelyn is in a bit of a weird position
She basically has to use Latios since Anabel took Entei
And even if she didn't, Water, Rock, and Ground are all covered
Which also means she can't use Raikou cause Ground, and Argenta took Suicune and Grass and Electric are both covered
Meanwhile the only weakness Latios has that's been covered is Ice, the other 5 are all up for grabs
And assuming we only get 8 more Ultimate Battles, since we can't exactly have a Normal-weak one, it'll probably be the remaining 4 Hoenn Brains, Dahlia, and the other 3 Chatelaines
So no Ingo and Emmet 
the rally picture has them as well as red and nemona, they probably have something in mind
That's true, but they already have 4/5 of the Sinnoh Brains, so Dahlia has to be one of them
And we already have one Chatelaine and three Hoenn Brains, so it'd be kinda weird to do some of them and not all of them
Maybe they'll start doing mixed-weakness ones with different gimmicks?
Who knows
I can see Ingo and Emmet being one battle instead of two separate ones
Same with Dana and Morgan teaming up with Evelyn, since they fight together in the Multi Battle Format in XY and ORAS
If they did do Masked Royal, he wouldn't be able to use Incineroar since his 4 weaknesses are covered already
Actually, idk if Dana, Evelyn, and Morgan would work, cause the only weakness Dana can have without overlap is Steel, and none of Evelyn's mons have a Steel weakness
DeNA forgot the other battle chatelaine exists and they never feature in UB again 
As long as there’s not another Nita
Thinking about who Ingo and Emmet would have made me realize that Eelektross will probably never see the light of day in this game
Unless they just ignore the fact that it has Levitate lmao
there's a damage challenge stage that just has a ground weak eelektross as an enemy, so it probably is gonna be that
perhaps if we get one playable they'll give it a skill like Ground Guard
You act like most chars take levitate into account
Afaik the only one is Terra firma cresselia for literally no reason other than to be harder
also barry's empoleon is weak to grass
terra firma 9 
Leftovers from piplup
Should be fighting weak instead to match his Empoleon from Palmer's UB
Yoooooooo I finally got Skyla

I more so mean for weaknesses lol, like I haven't personally noticed any Levitate mons like the Ghastly line, Solrock, Lunatone, etc. be weak to Ground in this game as far as I can remember
And elektross is the one exception iirc
That has no weakness naturally (no air balloon a-muk, burn up pure fire mons and we're post gen 6 so no sableye/spiritomb)
Yeah, so it's the only mon this weird edge case should apply to
It's an oversight.
Starts as Piplup, gains Steel when becoming Empoleon.
All it is.
Emmet and Eelektross is an entirely feasible UB possibility I feel
The intention being that it's the "Normal weak" one bc immune to actual weakness
it could be without weakness, so normal has the same advantage as every other type
wwrong channel ;o
Just give eelektross "ground guard" but have a ground weakness
Just give it Terra Firma 10.
i think you mean Weakness Hit: Zero Damage these days
Man I wanna do the ultimate battles but get too confused looking at the Google doc with submissions
If anyone wants to hold my hand and help 🌚
What specifically are you confused by?
Tiles for each pair, and then if being EX is necessary for some
Links were bein a little weird on my phone too
yeah either open the sheet in the Google Sheets app or on desktop, the Sheets preview in Discord mobile is abysmal
Ah yeah that explains it
but for most of the clears the listed investment is required, ultimate battles are no slouch
Grid especially makes a huge difference when the margins are as tight as they are
That’s going to depend a lot on your roster, but I’d say Lucy, Noland, and maybe Argenta (I think she’s the grass weak one? I always confuse Anabel and Argenta) or Darach as third easiest. But that’s also coming from a player who has top counters for all the UBs
I like to think I got a good roster let me see
Got these guys. If I just follow tips/other runs u think I’m chillen?
Yeah, you’ve got a good roster. I don’t know if rats still clear all the UBs but at worst they clear the majority of them
Rats and zapdos prob right?
U know if there is anything specific about them I gotta do for sync grid, or setting up
Every clear on the doc has grids and a video guide provided as a requirement to get it on the sheet, so just follow those. They will change, sometimes drastically, between battles
Aight when I can get to my computer or somethin I will
Was tryna do some quick cleats while watching Kaiju 8 lol
Clears*
Yo there are energy orb caps now?
What is that
I havnt played in a few months
Sync orb*
It’s a maximum energy increase of +2 per move level for 20000 orbs. It’s generally only recommended once you have everyone gridded and is for endgame players who have tens of thousands of spare orbs
Gotcha
Annoying fucking UB
Nice, yeah despite being the first UB, Anabel is still one of the hardest and basically requires NC Serena and a Rain unit
Over a third of the runs on the sheet use NC Serena lol
She's either hardest or 2nd hardest depending on who you ask lmao
Your best team is likely Irida - NC Red - Cynthia (Lucario). That one team can do all 9 UBs, though some will be harder than others and Irida might require 3/5 on some of the clears (I would make her 3/5 anyway, but thats up to you).
Also when you use it - you can replace Cynthia with NC Blue for Anabel and Leon (heavy fire damage there and also better paralysis for leon), for the other 7 keep Cynthia if she has her Sprint role unlocked (it's very good on supports, so its advised to give her the role cake)
The other team is SST Red + Ash + NC Blue - that team can do 6/9 UBs.
-for Anabel you would need to replace Blue with SS kris or SS Mina (and even then it's not easy), but you dont have them I think. So for Anabel you will probably need to use the Ice team with Blue
-for Argenta - you need both double rebuff and weather and you dont have Adaman. Honestly I would just use Irida - NC Red here again, kek.
-for Nita - 100% use the ice team and even then you will need to play very well just to do it. Probably just copy a video clear
so overall either use a mix of rats and Ice team .. or mostly just the Ice team (except on leon - rats/SST Red are the best there)
Been trying to clear Palmer with the psychic team, it feels like u really need Adrenaline1 on NC Rosa, I don't have that
I think Nita is indeed very hard
And Leon is very restrictive
Yeah, I managed to scrape by Nita with Egg Lapras in place of Irida
The biggest issue if anything was keeping Lapras alive the whole time
With what support?
NC Blue
Is there a substitute for him?
Don't have either, sadge
What's your roster looking like
By how much does the egg Lapras debuff speed? -1?
Yeah, Icy Wind is -1, but the trick is to use NC Red to freeze units that are about to go next to get more than one Icy Wind in before the opponent attacks
Pretty bad ngl, might go and update my tracker tbh, it has been a while since I've done thT
I do have NC Cheren
Who debuffs speed a lot better, and has good damage
That's good, if he's at 3/5 he can outpace Nita's speed buffs
1/5 sadly, planned on 3/5ing him but there are some other options for me
Waiting for anni to grab SS Wally
Or just pity him from mix tomorrow
SC Steven too
Having someone to overwrite weather is also a must, like SS Morty
This challenge is very much designed with Irida in mind, so hopefully she runs soon, but not too soon cause I'm saving for anni lol
Irida for the gimmick, Red for burst
That's the exact problem for me to pick my mix pity, next month will probably have SS Kris, which I really want
To complete my mono water team mostly, but I have cleared Anabel today so I'm chilling
Yeah, I'm having to plan around the fact that I'm gonna be pulling for 4 Master Fairs come September
Wanted Irida too for my NC Red
3 anni units + Kris
The thing is that I don't have the gems for that, I'm sitting on like 20k paid gems but only 3k unpaids
I have a hard to time keeping paid gems since I do Daily Discounts a lot
I had a shitty experience with those, so I stopped
But when my gacha addiction hits me, I'm screwed
Fair, though I did get SS Ethan from one
I mostly want SS Wally to complete my mono fairy team, also shiny gardevoir and Wally in general
And fairy, obviously
But he has so many clears like on Palmer
Yeah, SS Wally has been on my list for a while since I have Penny and SS Gladion
Yup
It's going to be tough, I want Fall Roxanne too
But Lucy is mad easy so I'm not rushed
NC Leaf carries
Yeah NC Leaf is the GOAT
Sadly, there won't be video
Hey. I forgot how to beat battle challenge in the event called twins stars far apart.
It said I have to use flying and steel with hoenn character.
Yes. It does require Tate and Liza summer outfit. But I don’t have it
You don't have to do both missions at the same time
You can do 1 run with any Flying + Steel
And another with any 2 Hoenn
I forgot to mention that any debuffs didn’t effect the better damage. I keep getting at least 1k-5k damage. It’s not enough.
If I remember correctly the enemy will take reduced damage unless it has a Status Condition like Paralysis, Burn etc
Paralysis is encouraged here
or you can use Solgaleo
I forget it exists
I dont get it, whats this?
Thats one of the JP youtubers beating noland ub with that team
He said its an obvious result so he wont be posting a video but gave us a screenshot as proof
#1255888121648644197 but also immunity isn’t a thing at all in PoMa
Where did you get the screenshot? Some other discord?
It's kinda obvious that this team is capable of beating it, I did it with a 1/5 NC Cheren and a 3/5 NC Serena instead of Anni Skyla
A 3/5 NC Cheren with good flying zone uptime should clear this easily, you just let him tank and you time fly to dodge fissure
His yt channel
Yep and that's why he said he's not gonna make it a video
Which team is better?
Vilda team
Ok
to beat Argenta, I need to be able to set rebuff and change weather twice right? Once at beginning, and at 50%, when she sets rain again and removes rebuffs?
yes
got it. NC Rosa not great then, since she uses up her 2 rebuffs right away... (I'm on stage 10 of BR, and the bonuses are for Sprint and Support . I have NC Silver who can change weather, but I don't know how to set rebuffs twice. My double bonus units are NC Rosa, SSA Cynthia and Redlax... don't think I can use all 3 for max bonus)
any recommendations?
You can use any Status Change, actually
While Argenta cures them every move if they're a interference, Rosa has a way to apply it again 100% of the time via Teeter Dance
As long as Rosa uses Teeter Dance before your damage dealer moves, Argenta will receive full damage, even on the second half
so maybe after 50% just spam teeter dance? that might work?
so maybe NC Rosa NC Silver and ... SS Gladion for more oomph? I don't think I can sneak SSA Cynthia or Redlax in since dps will be just really low
is this for Battle Rally btw? since you mentioned double bonus
Unless you got some stat/damage boosts, yeah
then it's better ask in the right channel #1009564564821639379
initial question was about UB so just continued the convo 😄
Which grids for each of them do you recommend?
is there any reason you want to run OG Leaf btw?
not really necessary, Hilda maxes her own rising tide incredibly easily
(rising tide caps at 18 buffs)
Oh ok
#1255888121648644197 for specific help please
Right thanks
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Emmet tank Vs Noland, lol
My respects for using SS N there
I thought his playstyle is too slow but guess he can still work
His playstyle is normally slow, but this is a stage that promotes early usage of Grusha's TM
So it's more about the opportunity it presents
Not extending the battle and having low HP is also nice to not have his multipliers often turned off
As the other enemies will often naturally buff themselves back
He's not really slow, he just needs some constant ramp to go
Tosakinto often pushes how he'll be excellent for EBEs if he gets a strike cake
Which is very slow if he has to do it himself
Grusha helps with it, but Grusha often has the opportunity cost to do it early (which isn't the case vs Noland)
He still wouldn't be excellent for EBEs because he sometimes already misses the mid KO
Definitely. But at the same time I lowkey want field EX R on him too. Strike make a lot of sense with his multipliers though since all of his debuffs are aoe
It'd especially make his Nita clear so much easier because he can clear her just fine, but then the sides are an issue
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Can I ask for team building help here, just started today
I want to invest in the right trainers for long term
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Managed to beat Lucy & Noland today.
I'm not amazing at the game but happy with the teams (mainly the Noland one) that I managed to put together at least. 
https://youtu.be/unCi2zZVLj4?si=kvHqFvRShjkCqSUf
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technically the second f2p team on Darach
GOATdie 
wth
What's the first?
that team did darach as well?wtf how
It has a bunch of field effects
That team didn't clear Darach afaik. They cleared Argenta, which is why I'm confused.
yeah mb i mixed up with Argenta
I know dark was working on it for a while and got close, figured they just got it after enough time
The reason Sycamore/Bertha/LGladion could clear Argenta partly thanks to her Grass weakness, so Sycamore dealt enough dmg to take her down in time.
I'm aware
Darach is also possible with that team because of a less inflated health pool that gets chipped away by all of Bertha's field effects quite conveniently
I took a break and i’ve just been busy, haven’t got it yet but it’s on a list of things i need to do
yeah, that's fair
But yes it is possible and i have gotten very close, i just need to do it
gl
Gorin doin work
Which pairs should help beat Darach?
have you ever checked the pins to see what teams you can replicate?
I have but it's a bit much to handle at once. With all the info.
we do feel the same
it's easier and saves a lot of your time to look into the doc instead
I noticed from the pins that Blue and Red together can beat Leon, but is there anyone I can add (so I don't have to invest more into Red and Blue
)?
You shouldn't have any issue regardless of who you choose
But, for an easier time, you can take someone who gets a reliable paralysis
I'm not sure what do you mean by investing more into them if they're already 3/5 EX lol
If Red's not EXR, you can take Volkner to double down on paralysis and Electric Terrain reliability, as that will allow you to run Cakewalk on Red
Leon just needs those at the move levels you're showing (in your original screenshot)
Yeah, but could I add a teammate that could lower them to 3/5 EXR?
probably literally anyone

Ropal just suggested Volkner
I might see if I can lower that duo to 3/5 EXR +6e on both since I feel like that should be doable but I also don't have any ways to get Status Immunity on Blue
nvm forgot about my guaranteed cookies
Do you think NY Wallace could be replaced with a 5/5 Mix Blue? (Palmer)
Also, can a 1/5 SS Diantha work ?
(doc shows 5/5)
Iirc, Wallace was used there to also fish for team damage guard
Making it so the team survives longer
Blue has max guard
Well it's not team guard, and it's probably not good wasting max flare
Ah well
What about this team? can anyone replace Summer Gardenia?
I have 3/5 NC Serena if she could work? or Summer Gardenia provided something else?
She gives Ghost Zone
I mean you can try it
SpDef*
By those team have high rng already
Oh really
Yep
I don't know much about Palmer
Really good gears too
There is a SS Steven/SS Lana/NC Rosa team
I have all 3 at 3/5 + Caked
The thing is that it seems like HS1 is a must
On NC Rosa
Oh that is what the difference is about
NC Rosa didn’t have HS1
More dmg i guess
He also can debuff SpDef at 5/5
Do you think rock wish MPR and extension is THAT important?
Or the fight should be over by that time
Do you know why people pray for SS Diantha has Field cake ?
I do, I am a prayer myself
Her B Move has extremely long animation
I have three of those in reserve for her and SS Morty
And it costs a lot of Zone times
Like you can throw 2 B Move and Zone already gone
I thought of 3/5ing her for MPR
But some others said that it is not worth it cause I should be deleting the stage with the other two before I need more rock zone uptime
I'm not that good tho
i'll try to roll for gears
Since its mono-rock
Aaaaaand, I'm out of feathers
Okay it won't work
idk if you have cleared Darach before, but you can replicate Bertha Paulo NC Silver team
woohoo! i beat nolan
at first looking at the guides i was like how do people figure out when to use wide guard, how they know he's going to use fissure
but after trying 2 times i understand he rotates between them, then i am like ohhh so this is how you know what moves ahead of time
and then i just need to be lucky for wide guard to refresh, and proceed i beat the stage
Any videos, links whatever for the super sparring event?
#1255888121648644197 handles that
Ok
PALMER
ping @low coral since we talked about it lol
The end of the run wasn't super clean, it didn't really go according to plan, but who cares 
turns out a better grid on palmer and dc2 on lana make the run easier (still requires 3/5 anabel to tank the final sync)
How clutch is the gear here?
If it went as planned, I believe regular Normal gears would work
But here I couldnt get both Reflect and crit-shield so gear stats were useful (135 HP, 30 Def, no dmg reducing passive)
Nice
https://youtu.be/S7alnFkW3HU
No one was using Egg Jolteon so might as well
I was this close to do a duo of just Red and Blue, but unfortunately terrain doesn't last long enough, and Red only having 3 times is sadly not enough. Otherwise Red counters Leon almost perfectly
So I fixed it but giving them the cheapest option I could find, Eggmon Jolteon, who has no use in this battle aside from advancing the sync countdown...
Well those two can duo so...
Yeah Red is 1/5
I believe they can duo even as they are but I haven't figured out the correct strategy for it
new UB datamine soon ...
I'm surprised we haven't had a ghost stage yet
with all the ghost pairs this month
It's even more absurd that we don't have psychic UB yet.
This type is as stacked as water, fire or electric.
imagine dragon ub next month
I'll be ok with this if they release Lucas and BT Leon ex roles
Or hassel
I think Hassel is coming next month so we could get a dragon ub that is weak to him
I'm going to cry if its around NC Nate, I had to skip him for clair
Dragon wouldn't surprise me though
we have Five pokefair dragons that need ex role off the top of my head
Lance, SS Cynthia, Lucas, BT Leon, Anni Raihan, SS Leon
oh wait Noland was the month after cheren right?
yup
i wonder if they're gonna finish ex roles by the anni month
i believe next month lucas leon(x2) and raihan are getting the role, and lance + cynthia for anni
we still have a few more too
there's kinda way too many pokefairs still to go for that tbh
it was like 13
and even if we got two months of that we still wouldn't quite be done
sadge how anni raihan is gonna be the last of the 2.5 anni trio to get his exr 
been waiting for his since anni may's
i hope it's good
base raihan needs his too
actually none of the pokefairs in the monthly scout have their exrs now that i think about it, maybe they'll mass drop them and add volo, rika and kabu to the pool (copium)
i imagine flyhan will get support personally
i feel like he has a pretty good chance for all the rolls pretty equally
he can ramp w/ weather setting and max move (sprint)
can set up his nuke and debuff aoe (strike)
helps enhance the team, mun and seun (support)
already sets sun and sandstorm, why not a third wtz (field)
dena will hyperfixate on him getting defense bonuses during weather and try to make him a weird tank 

tech would be best but i get the feeling he's getting Sprint tbh
his kit screams all roles
he's an enchanter, sync accel, field manager AND has a good nuke and self sufficiency
if he gets sprint just because he has head start 1 its actually so joever
plus we already have a strike sprint steel in poppy
so im
that rules it out a bit
inb4 field because of Anni Raihan whole gimmick is setting up WTZ so why not his base too
Plus a Gmax update so he can set sand too 
Yet another Steel Zone Galarian lmao
i would sob i already have selene as his steel zone partner 
Dragon UB would be cool in August or September
Normal UB because it keeps switching weakness somehow 
Ghost UB for mf volo the month after
Super Serious gladion 
Nah, Arceus as a UB boss by himself and no trainers.
Color change kecleon
Fairy UB would be fine as long as it doesn't shower us in debuffs like SS Gladion EB did
Hau ebe but cranked upto ub level
with dragon zone and being unbeatable in dragon zone
Make it so please 
Please do not
Actually, make an EB where they do massive amounts of status ailments with all of the enemies having things like Stop Hitting Yourself 9 and Opp Paralyzed: Up 9
And they have passives that ignore passive status ailment immunity
Dena: write that down write that down
Downside up units:- where did it bring you? Back to me
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Laughs in Stop Hitting Yourself 27
You are a true stan
Just to see how far
Status immunity passive-ignoring abilities says hi
I think it can be done
Atleast I'm spamming nc.nate but you, you are spamming the black snek
Depends on
Do we have anything that ignores it?
Bulk wouldn't be a problem when he "won" against anabel
Gimmicks, yeah it'll depend on them
I wouldn't be surprised if the gimmick actually requires you to bring screens
Eh depends still how many HP
Me when those dont exist yet
We got Hau's EB which had a passive that no unit ever had
Dragon ub may ask for field effect + screens
Screens may be unlikely but it'll ask for some kind of debuff
There are so many dragons with some kind of specialty
Can ss cynthia debuff the enemy? Only para right?
I remember only para
paralysis and she's got some level of sync cd reduction
I'm expecting field + debuffs
Fluid fortification would be annoying again
But should be simple enough with nate + dragapult
ciris exr next month i cope
Hoping for field
My 2 cents are on a fairy weak UB
Bc they like to throw Ubs for MF that have not been running for a couple of months so SSGladion it is
Should I just wait for 5/5 ssmina or something, I'm still not able to beat anabel cause she is just bs
Where exactly are you struggling in the Anabel fight? I don’t see any reason why your roster shouldn’t clear with the investment you have right now
Idk she just barely takes anything
Are you spending as much of the fight as you can in rain?
Like she's supposed to be weakened but yet she just decided to say damage means nothing to her
I rain dance right away
Honestly I don't even know what I'm doing wrong myself
the Weakened status means anything from a 5% to 50% damage reduction depending on number of debuffs, so just make sure Serena is debuffing to at least -10 across all stats which is easy to do on the innate kit
Yeah im trying to but the sides also decide to dish out near one shots like it's a bargain sale
That really shouldn't be a problem with rain up, Mina TM can also nullify the need for vigilance opening up fire guard on the support and creating a safe avenue for cs2 on your damage dealers
Yeah look at this, I don't understand what is happening
Is it because 1/5 cerena? 3/5 ssmina? I just can't figure out why
1/5 Cerena can and has done it, you're syncing with May in that team regardless
Yeah even that I knew, I've tried with base kris, nothing, djgloria, nothing, this is my latest today for extra rain chances and still nothing
Could it be ssmina's grid?
no flameproof immediately stands out to me
Try selecting team whismcal immunity
Maybe instead of tse go for refreshing rain for more heals on mina at least have to reset for tm mpr on may though to max crit
Maybe like this?
Literally still nothing
What is this game on right now?
Even got the mpr for may tm
But the damage just doesn't exist for some reason
Seriously what am I doing wrong? It feels like she got buffed even more
Are you taking this team directly from a guide?
Are you using the same move order as the video?
I’m looking at your own video and perhaps you’re not getting lucky with SpDef debuffs, but I can’t say for sure since I don’t have Cerena
I haven't looked at a single video
Sorry I can’t find it, are you referring to the one in the pins here?
Yes
Not really much else I can do to protect the others when the sides still hit like a train
Like you used it at turn 2
When all team still have GH from Mina’s Tm
You literally can save it after Anabel’s Sync
Yeah still nothing cause the damage just won't happen
And that was the second sync from anabel
Mor didn't proc that time but it didn't matter, the damage still doesn't happen enough before that second sync
Are you sure ?
Bc i am doing that team rn
Ofc i didn’t win
But the dmg isn’t low like you said
You just missed crit
Hold on can I ask what level is cerena?
Mine is 3/5, but i ungrid her and she had 0 benefit from gears
Cause of refresh on anabel
huh what refresh
Iirc 50% leads to her just restoring it off
argenta is what you're thinking of
Could've sworn she did, huh ok one last time, if this doesn't work I'm giving up again
Like idk how she still had 83%
even without ex may I was still able to get to below 50% myself, I died to second sync because I didn't flinch and didn't have crit for half the battle but those are immediatly identifiable areas to improve upon and probably lead to a clear with an ex that I don't have
I give up, this is still impossible for me
This team can kill Anabel before 2nd Sync
But May need to crit all Sync
And need 1 Tm mpr from Mina for Crit Shield
I'm just gonna wait till the game decides to be generous for once and give me sskris, the one that the stage was intended for
Even SS Kris still struggle again this stage
yeah I see the vision there I just kinda forgot to buff crit until may's second sync 😦
I still don't see it for myself right now
Still insane that this is the first one made and they broke it this badly
yeah this kills without the burn right?
This run dead anyway
May got burn
Mina didn’t give mpr
I just show this team can kill Anabel before 2nd Sync
OK one last time but this time nc blue, if he somehow doesn't help, I'm done, one of the suggested teams shows this, it better work
Yep still nothing, fully done with this bs stage
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The only unit with a grid is hop which is shown at the end of the clear.
You want to use your first action buffing allister and then using Sabrina tm on him to fully buff him up, hop needs acuity to stop any accuracy debuffs from occurring
You want to save a Sabrina tm in the case allister gets too low
You also want to focus on killing the left side ASAP as earthquake is a run killer once Victor is down and you want to kill it as shown here
@leaden dagger
It'll allow you but not me right now
You just didnt spent enough time for better rng
I know, spent time for this game is horrible
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=013003065800&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=4444&g0=&v1=012600026000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBggTFRcYGR0fLi8&v2=003401078800&s2=2&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&g2=AÂECAwQFBgwOEBEZGxwdICIjJCYnKw
- Requires good enough stats
#pokemonmasters
I didn’t why your dmg was so low
Unless you missed every crit Sync
Pykuo why does video title
3/5 Cerena (No grid or Sync)/May/ 2/5 SS Mina

Pomatool link breaks again

PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
The gears
Mine didn’t give my Serena any SpA bc mine is 3/5, but your gears should give her some
So what about the grid for mina if 3/5?
It is up to you, do you want to reset for May tm mpr ?
Bc you also need to reset for Mina’s Tm mpr
But i recommend you EX Serena tho, extra stats help her survive better and deal more dmg
I thought it was the exr that does the stat buffs which I've already done
exr does, 20/20 does as well
20/20 gives +100 HP and +40 the other stats to base 5* pairs
Should I also try to invest into her on level too cause my roster kinda hurting on choosing between them
I only got 1 single tech candy just a heads up
I still cannot do this, it's flat out impossible for me
What is your May grid ?
Bc how did you May have Refreshing Rain 1 for full dmg grid ?

You never look at her grid like at all ?
That is a dps grid
Not a nuke grid
You didn’t look at my May’s grid too ?
Lol what a grid
Idk somehow worked for whatever team used it
That her dps grid
Which didn’t touch her Sync like at all
And you didn’t look at my team grid just why ? Why you only care about SS Mina ?
......I'm done, I'm throwing in the towel
Or rather the game is that jank
I should have won this looong ago but nope
ARE YOU SERIOUS GAME JUST GIVE ME THE STUPID WIN
I’m so confused how’d you die to the first sync?
Are you syncing with may or Mina first?
Because when I did this fight with SSKris I found syncing with may to be almost never worth it
It would net me losing out on more than I gained syncing with her
Even if you killed Anabel, you still loss tho, you need Mina’s Tm mpr for crit shield
it's between ex may and nonex 1/5 cerena though, I don't think that's a particularly close contest
1/5 Cerena has a better sync than 5/5 may
Scroll up to the vid posted recently, I'm doing nearly everything similar
I believe dreamy has a clear with 1/5 cerena that’s in the doc
that was an ex cerena though
I wouldn’t attempt this battle without ex Cerena
There’s no rush to clear these fights anyways
More like I shouldn't attempt this battle ever cause it's still bs
No, 5/5 May is stronger than 1/5 Cerena
Even both EX
I suppose I remember wrong as in the past my Cerena did out nuke my may even with -6 accuracy on the foe suppose I am wrong
Legit the mina mpr never wants to go off but may's fine to happen quite a bit, there is no way the game is cheating this bad
I see
I swear it is specifically mina's that will never go off
I had both may and mina mpr go off, and yet again it's still impossible, this is more or less a scripted loss
I'm trying to do nita, following somebody's build from the cheat sheet, but cheren just can't survive the 2nd sync
Anybody have tips?
looks like not good enough skill gear tbh
Do you got the feather/gear set up that actively meant for nc cheren? Hold on
Iirc it's this one
Nita uses her TM right before second sync, make sure her speed is 0 or below first
ty my tired brain read Nita as the other UB that starts with an N (which Noland does kill Cheren easily in 2 syncs if you're not careful either)
Okay ima try again! Thanks guys👍
He does? Ig Cheren rushing the endures makes his sync deadly
it’s more after the first sync the countdown is 1 so you can’t do much between them
Giovanni ub?
Probably needs sleep spam + dmg field
[legend_theme_6070_001] Prepare for the opponent’s powerful
stat increases! Use a Dark Damage Field!
[legend_rule_6070_001] The first time Mewtwo’s HP reaches 80%
and 40% or lower, it endures with that HP.
[legend_rule_6070_002] Powers up the opponent’s moves, sync
move, or both when their stats are raised.
[legend_rule_6070_003] When the opponent is not affected by a
field effect, its Defense and Sp. Def
are tripled.
Darach 2.0
SC Zinnia could be good for stealing stats and blocking raises, same as Brycenman
Is it any type of stats?
do we know the details about gio ub yet
NC Leaf will 100% be a top unit here
so or maybe grimsley
*leaf or zinnia or maybe copium grimsley
could ss cyrus do something here
upcoming Hoopa-Unbound
my gems....
Yeah
Won't be a counter, but a solid supportive unit
if it has too much hp I am probably fucked
My only dark dd is furry Hilbert
*fall
I mean
Giovanni is a prime target to the usual top tiers
Electric and Ice naturally check him, most likely
Ice, depends on the buffs, but Electric 100% does
Dark Damage Field and 3x Defensive Stats When Not Affected by Field= Akari
Powers Up Sync/Move When Stats are Raised = Snatch or SC Zinnia
As Electric debuffs all 5 main stats
why the hell did they make UB even more annoying with 2 endures
Because Akari
Is dark zone sufficient to negate the def and sp.def boost or do we need ceaseless edge?
Any field effect that works on the enemy side or both sides
It has to affect the enemy side
So even the field effect that blocks raising stats
Oh that one
fairy and water could probably as well
Fairy, poison and flying should be able to clear
no Lear 5/5....
I'm gonna list down what UBs are made for which units
he could have been useful with snatch if grid gave him aoe buff block
flying debuffs a good bit right?
Atk, sp.atk and speed
Poison should be able to clear with multiple combinations
what about fire
It's more about the powerlevel of the UB and how much they do the stuff they say they do
oh right leaf
The gimmicks themselves aren't too hard to naturally check, but that also goes for Nita
And we know how that went
Lets not remember about nita. Annoying af ub
there is no nita ub.Never existed
Anabel: Serena (Champion), SS Kris
Thorton: NC Leaf, (maybe) SS Morty
Darach: SS Diantha, NC Silver
Argenta: Adaman, (maybe) SS Acerola
Palmer: Rei
Lucy: Roxanne (Fall), (maybe?) SC Adaman
Leon: Ash, SST Red, NC Blue, SS Hau
Nita: Red (Champion) and Irida
Noland: Cheren (Champion), Gloria (Alt. 2)
Giovanni: Akari and SC Zinnia
Not sure who to include for Noland
ss acerola definitely
Time to think of a team for nc.nate against giovanni. If only I had bt.leon
Leon ain't for all Electrics, Nita isn't really for Red, and Thorton isn't for Morty
You can include Hop on Palmer
I think Darach is only SS Diantha. NC Silver didn't exist at the time.
Have I really saw Giovanni's UB?
Well, for Nita, Irida counters her gimmick while Red burst down the sides to prevent the use of sandstorm
SS Morty is probably one of the best sun supporter out there (also keyword on "maybe" for him)
Yes, but that would be like Marnie for Giovanni or Lysandre for Anabel
Do we know the hp pool?
no
Thorton doesn't even ask for sun
Palmer is definately more than Rei. The idea is using all possible dmg boost, so SSA Cynthia, NC Hop (fighting zone) or NC Rosa (fighting rebuff) should count.
Elio is more of a Darach counter than Morty is for Thorton, for example
Actually, 3/5 Rika can also be for Lucy
SS Acerola is definitely built for Argenta since psychic terrain
Yeah, but people don't usually worry about PT
Only rain
Yeah true
still an intended counter
SS Acerola is overkill even if she does counter one of Argenta's gimmicks
But I would still put her as a definite since it's still built around changing the terrain in mind
Even if it's not entirely necessary
I could also add Larry onto UBs that have No Negative Status Change: x3 Def. and Sp. Def.
Ok boy can't wait for mewtwo to get +6 accuracy
Does it really matter when all UBs have Piercing Gaze unless you're implying something else?
Yeah 
Maybe I can add 2 separate categories for the UBs. One for the gimmick counter and the other for the damage dealer and maybe one that fits both
@low coral What do you think?
Or evasion. It'll be more annoying.
We actually have acc debuff on some op units (NC Serena - dark form, NC Red & NC Cheren - Discombobulate in grid), but eva debuff is stuck with mediocre units (Darach, Lisia, Katherine) .
@final yacht I'm wondering, can there be like instructions added in your docs on how to counter the gimmicks of each UB? Just suggesting
F i dont hv NC Marnie for this UB
I mean it's not like it's meant for her 
Akari is the main Dark AoE pair now, not Marnie 
Will need to see the stats and the attacks, but Darach 2.0,debuffs-edition doesnt seem like a big deal. Probably all the teams in my doc will clear it
it all depends on the stats and amount of buffing thh
*tbh
hopefully we don't get another Nita
Can anyone send me where yall saw the stage gimmicks for Giovanni, I cant find them
nnothing yet
Is Giovanni bug, dark or ghost weak?
Dark weak
Who
NC Marnie ex role > Akari
😉
Just install dark zone from NCalem
? Akari sets dark zone, Marnie doesnt. Zone gives a bigger boost than Supp EX
also Akari has more sync multipliers
and her dark field is a perma field for this UB gimmick (one of them)
NC Calem at UB ? Nah 
Rather get something tanky
Akari's dark zone is perma? WTF
Marnie really counters 0 gimmicks, she is just an AoE Damage dealer with a flinch
Yeah marnie does nothing against the UBs gimmicks

He has cleared Anabel tho
no, but she has 1 normal zone and 1 extended zone. Thats pretty long
the dark damage field is perma - good for this and for Darach
I was able to get by with preexisting units or mssterfairs, so having to go our of the way to pull pokefairs is kinda ew
This might be the first UB I can't beat for awhile... =/
NC Marnie is like a stronger version of SS Serena, who is a stronger version of SS Lusamine.
Unga bunga AoE
I couldn't clear Palmer for a bit but it wasn't that long before I got NC Bianca and cleared it with full MF fighting team (ssa cynthia, nc bianca, nc hop). But this one might be awhile because these day I pull for msterfairs..
and new Nemona is a stronger version of NC Marnie
SS Gladion is also similar, but at least he can debuff SpAtk
Nemona debuffs atk
Oh ? good
Though it might be inconvenient, couldn't we use NC serena? She's good at stat debuffing... mmh
- able to rebuff
nc leaf should destroy the gimmicks
pretty sure she's lower on the tier list rn cuz no anti gimmick other than flinch
thankyou so much for your help man
really appreciate the effort
im short on sync orb so this is what im able to manage
and i dont have any lucky cookie left, my zamazenta only got Vigilance
Finally, my lovely-weak ultimate
SS-Cyrus/Akari, SC-Zinnia and… Calem should destroy it
Ah, I should be ok then, depend on wht moves or other gimmick Gio has though. Noland was thought to be a bit easy but he has fissure at start of battle + sync giving Phys next up, so...
i doubt calem tbh
what no on command defensive buffs do to a mf
Fall Caitlin seems neat
I highly doubt that gio will buff stuff nc leaf can't debuff
I just checked ss nemona, she also debuff defense
At 3/5 she can debuff atk and def again if the weather is sunny
wait Nemona wants sunny day ? why would a fairy team have sunny day ?
Pomatools please update
check #datamines
for kits
it's a reference to protosynthesis
can nemona debuff speed?
if so fairy comp might beat Nita
Nemona doesn't need sunny day, she is a sun setter but not required. One of her grid just give her more debuffs if the weather is sunny
Maybe if nemona could debuff speed well
I know ppl say she's bait but her and SS Gladion being both fairy masterfair is like a massive W for me and for fairy in general
I'm 100% pulling for her bc
- Masterfair striker
- Fairy
- Paldean
- Need better fairy roster
Literally first limited fairy I got was ss gladion
And she is not really bait if the are 3 total mfs for anni when you count her
I'm betting on it being like 4.5th anni, it feels a bit like a pattern (like nc nate/rosa, 4.5th anni), only exception was nc cheren/bianca
I mean it's not the first time a unit summons a field not directly helping its type.
SS Mina has rain and still no fairy types benefit from it other than herself.
if Nemona can debuff Atk AND def and also is a weather setter - thats good anti-gimmicks. Better than Gladions honestly
After looking at Nemonas kit in pomatools - I'm actually a bit underwhelmed.
low-ish Atk and low move BP
sun and circle are tied to 1 move, and both dont have extensions
I suspect SS Gladion might be able to outdamage her just due to higher moves BP (and his b-move having an Ash-like innate on top of that too)
But having a weather does give her some extra utility
she has mpr tho
What team did you put her with?
With what exactly?
and yeah Nemona cant debuff speed, so Fairy team will never be able to beat Nita TT
No need to ping a specific helper, you can just ask right away
So you are focusing on 2 Galar mission first
(Alister doesn't count as Poison type)
I was helped by SavingforSkyla with this video, but my Sabrina and Allister always die on enemy second sync move
Yes, let's win them one at a time
either 2 Galar first or Poison Psychic
this is my poison psychic list & galar list
my Xerneas Horn Leech carried me on Intelleon stage but less effective on this Grass Gorilla stage
this is my somewhat useful units
https://pastebin.com/S9zqYL4e
UB stats
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Giovanni has 789k HP 
Great, not only do they have team stat buffs for every action, they can also debuff your stats too
Passive 14: Sharpened Body 9
Passive 15: Sharpened Mind 9
Passive 16: Brawn Sync 9
Passive 17: Brain Sync 9
what do these do ? What do you need to debuff ?
Attack and Sp. Atk.
All of them only need at least 1 stack of those to activate
so impervious is required? hmm
More like SC Zinnia's TM
yeah
Is this the first time we get an UB not related to a MF?
I mean ncleaf/Ncserena can still do their stuff but I see space for Brycen man this time
Oh just these?
NC Blue to the rescue 
There’s good form and rising tide too
Also this
Passive 11: Discombobulate 9
Passive 12: Ripple Effect 9
Passive 13: Double Drop
Passive 14: Group Pep Talk 9
Passive 15: Group Morale Boost 9
Passive 16: Good Form
Passive 17: Move Gauge Refresh 9
-2 accuracy to your entire team
Discombulate 9
ew D:

Along with +1 Atk. and +1 Sp. Atk. per action
basically... Impervious + Ash + an AoE Debuffer that cannot miss ... yikes.
that too huh hrm
if the sides dont have freeze immune then NC Red can maybe prevent them from attacking (so they dont lower your accuracy) and then you kill them quickly - its only 100k HP
Fall Roxanne to the rescue
And Giovanni has this too:
Passive 18: S-Move: Team 5 Stats ↑ 2
5 random stat increase for the team every time he syncs
wait
Akari bmove shouldn't be having any problem but the real challenge would be applying the DF back with ceaseless edge
that feels like Leaf'ss Sync Movee properties D:
That's why it's also made for SC Zinnia
What does that do ?
Guaranteed accuracy drop
Accuracy debuff
Ugh... but if it's stat debuffs... looks at SS Gladion
damnit. not like thiss ;-;
Hmm what's a good substitute for SC zinnia tho
I can see Dragapult + Ash + NC Blue .-.;


