#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

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opaque dagger
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so 7 grusha and 3 non grusha

valid raft
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I mean non-support base/EXR

stable tundra
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Then just check the doc

opaque dagger
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oh grusha is support

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thought it was tech smh

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bianca has sup exr

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paulo too

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so just this one i think

valid raft
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Ah ok, so I'm the 2nd one then

fading walrus
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I did do summ Liza 1/5 cheren askyla

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But it wasn't particularly noteworthy

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So I didn't up it in doc

snow spruce
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my UB difficulty list:

  • uber: Nita
  • top: Anabel, Leon
  • High: Thorton, Palmer
  • Mid: Argenta, Darach, Noland
  • Easy: Lucy
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high and mid are probably interchangeable .. or even all in the same tier

fading walrus
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I still think Anabel is worse than any other just because of sheer rng factor

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Heat wave burn and crits my behated

void cave
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It's weird cause I almost NEVER got burned by Heat Wave when trying to beat Anabel

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For me the worst part was getting MP Refreshes on May's Rain Dance lmao

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Cause I had no other good Rain setters

snow spruce
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I forgot, does Anabel get HE10 (100% burn chance) while sun is up ?
or was that only Moltres LA ?

it was 1 of them

stable tundra
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that's Entei LA on bar 3

uncut drum
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Moltres has guaranteed burn on Bar 2 if the weather is sunny

void cave
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Actually wait I think her Sacred Fire is guaranteed Burn

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Yeah it is

stable tundra
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UB Anabel has HE1, so it's a guaranteed burn

novel fog
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Amy beatable UBs? missing Leon, Nita, Palmer and Anabel

stable tundra
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SS Mina, NC Red and NC Cheren can clear Nita

novel fog
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Ah but freeze timings can be tough

stable tundra
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That team doesn't rely on freeze

novel fog
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Oh what

stable tundra
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NC Rosa, NC Serena and May can beat Anabel methinks

novel fog
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Just dps?

stable tundra
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Both NC are silly

novel fog
stable tundra
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Just grid Red with Hail on 1st sync tile and time it to replace sand on 80% threshold

stable tundra
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You can't replace her

novel fog
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Then SS Mina can surely replace NC Rosa

stable tundra
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Oh yeah

spiral summit
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You need replace Sun

stable tundra
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Then Lysandre works

novel fog
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At 1/5? or better to 2/5 and 3/5 later?

stable tundra
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Try with 1/5 first

spiral summit
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1/5 is enough with NC Serena

novel fog
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I think he gains some nice tiles from 2/5

stable tundra
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NC Serena carries anyway

novel fog
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Oh okay

stable tundra
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Dont candy pairs to 2/5

novel fog
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Anything that I should know ?

stable tundra
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For Anabel?

novel fog
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Yeah

stable tundra
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Anabel setup sun on entry and after every sync

novel fog
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So time rain to replace sun

stable tundra
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You can give everyone Vigilance if they fail to clear before Anabel uses DH+

novel fog
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She's mad tanky tho, will I be able to best her before 2nd sync?

spiral summit
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Yes

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NC Serena just that crazy

novel fog
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So just sync with Cerena I assume?

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She got support EXR too

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First with SS Mina and then Cerena?

spiral summit
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Even with some set up she can presync Anabel

novel fog
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Wdym more setup?

stable tundra
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Should be okay i suppose, but the only way to confirm it is you giving the team a try

spiral summit
novel fog
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Does she not have endure AT ALL?

spiral summit
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No

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Oh Anabel

stable tundra
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Anabel has 60% endure

spiral summit
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She has

novel fog
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Just 60%?

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That's not that bad

stable tundra
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Yes

spiral summit
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Remember she has really high HP

novel fog
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Yeah like 970k

spiral summit
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But that bc she also has Latias passive

novel fog
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What is it

spiral summit
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With can increase dmg she received

novel fog
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Aw

stable tundra
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The more buffs she have, the less dmg she takes. And she buffs her stats like crazy

novel fog
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Is SS Lysandre the best 3rd for that teamcomp or I can replace it with someone crazy but offtype?

shrewd marten
stable tundra
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SS Lysandre is perfectly fine

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Just give the team a try at this point

novel fog
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I could throw NC Leaf there and grid MH for potions and leer

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and Support EXR too ig?

spiral summit
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It is up to you

novel fog
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Gonna see with Lysandre first

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brb soon

stable tundra
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Serena doesn't need more debuffs

novel fog
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If that's the case I'll stick with Lysandre

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When should I use his Bmove?

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With 4sync buffs under rain?

stable tundra
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You should play against the stage now

novel fog
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How to deal with sides?

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Sync with Lysandre?

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Cerena does crazy amount of damage

uncut drum
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I'd use someone with debuffs

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The sides have fluid fortification too

novel fog
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Aoe debuffs?

uncut drum
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Yeah. Serena alone isn't enough

novel fog
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Could NC Leaf work

uncut drum
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Yes, as long as you don't attack with her

novel fog
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Yeah haha, just gonna grid her with MH1 and potion MPR

uncut drum
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Just spam leers

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Serena do damage, Mina tanks. As long as Anabel doesn't sync twice you're good

novel fog
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The thing is with NC Leaf I don't have that extra DPS to break the 60% endurance in time for my 3rd sync

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I have to waste it or just sync on one of the sides

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which leads to Anabel syncing twice

spiral summit
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And use rain immediately

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So you still have dps from Leaf

novel fog
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Will it actually make any difference ?

spiral summit
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Nah, you just have extra dmg from Leaf

novel fog
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Oh once sun is refreshed once with her Bmove I can pretty much spam it

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That's a good idea, gonna see how it goes

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SS Mina field EXR when WEEZing

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Oh nvm she's fairy

spiral summit
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Idt she’ll have it

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Bc she already has grid for it

novel fog
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Sprint then🙏🏽

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Yeah they are not going to give her Field

slate light
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tech incoming

valid raft
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Only Anabel has Fluid Fortification

shrewd marten
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Shouldn’t lysssandre oneshot it

snow spruce
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according to the doc:
"Fluid Fortification: The net sum of stat ranks that the user has determines how much damage it will take from attack moves and sync moves

  • Invulnerable: When the net sum is 10 or above, mitigates 100% of the damage taken
  • Reinforced: When the net sum is between 1 and 9, mitigates damages by 55% to 95% (+5% per rank)
  • Weakened: When the net sum is between 0 and -9, mitigates damages by 50% to 5% (-5% per rank)
  • Vulnerable: When the net sum is -10 or below, doesn't mitigate damages"
    FF never makes the user take increased damage. At -10 or lower you just go back to the normal 0%. -9 or higher - it starts to get mitigated.
    so "vulnerable" doesnt actually mean extra damage taken, it just means the normal 0%.
    Is this correct ?
shrewd marten
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Sure?

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Idk does it matter

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Just debuff them to hell

snow spruce
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dont know, just curious about the exact mechanics

onyx cedar
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yes

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that's how FF works

novel fog
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NC Leaf does not seem to work, I might just try SS May for the chip damage on the sides

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Or maybe NC Cheren

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Actually trying 3/5 Paulo

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His max move allows me to save 1 rain for later, he has sync acceleration, sprint EX and support EXR, and not to forget his Bmove

modern portal
valid raft
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Yes

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I forgot if Power Play/Loving disregards debuffs

neat needle
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I love how Argentina one shots everything with her 2nd sync move with no buffsSophoKEK LarryDead

novel fog
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🇦🇷

neat needle
stable storm
novel fog
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Any tips on how to deal with the Arcanine in Anabel's UB? he oneshots SS Mina even with fairy zone

hearty cedar
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On what sync cycle are you on?

novel fog
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SS Mina -> Cerena

lunar hatch
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How do I beat the new ub

valid raft
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Ways to avoid Fissure and Earthquake

lunar hatch
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I have NC blue NC cheren and Lana but I can't beat it

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Blue and cheren are both 3/5

valid raft
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You have to sync with Blue and Lana first before Cheren

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Cheren must weaken Noland to remove his endures

low coral
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I wouldn't sync with both

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Cheren can probably break the 80% threshold before the 2nd sync

void cave
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And having MP Refresh on Wide Guard is a must

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Also, assuming she gets an Ultimate battle, Evelyn is in a bit of a weird position

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She basically has to use Latios since Anabel took Entei

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And even if she didn't, Water, Rock, and Ground are all covered

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Which also means she can't use Raikou cause Ground, and Argenta took Suicune and Grass and Electric are both covered

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Meanwhile the only weakness Latios has that's been covered is Ice, the other 5 are all up for grabs

void cave
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And assuming we only get 8 more Ultimate Battles, since we can't exactly have a Normal-weak one, it'll probably be the remaining 4 Hoenn Brains, Dahlia, and the other 3 Chatelaines

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So no Ingo and Emmet WhitneySad

final yacht
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the rally picture has them as well as red and nemona, they probably have something in mind

void cave
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That's true, but they already have 4/5 of the Sinnoh Brains, so Dahlia has to be one of them

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And we already have one Chatelaine and three Hoenn Brains, so it'd be kinda weird to do some of them and not all of them

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Maybe they'll start doing mixed-weakness ones with different gimmicks?

valid raft
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Who knows

void cave
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I can see Ingo and Emmet being one battle instead of two separate ones

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Same with Dana and Morgan teaming up with Evelyn, since they fight together in the Multi Battle Format in XY and ORAS

void cave
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If they did do Masked Royal, he wouldn't be able to use Incineroar since his 4 weaknesses are covered already

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Actually, idk if Dana, Evelyn, and Morgan would work, cause the only weakness Dana can have without overlap is Steel, and none of Evelyn's mons have a Steel weakness

orchid bridge
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DeNA forgot the other battle chatelaine exists and they never feature in UB again TabithaHehe

shrewd marten
void cave
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Thinking about who Ingo and Emmet would have made me realize that Eelektross will probably never see the light of day in this game

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Unless they just ignore the fact that it has Levitate lmao

stone scarab
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there's a damage challenge stage that just has a ground weak eelektross as an enemy, so it probably is gonna be that

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perhaps if we get one playable they'll give it a skill like Ground Guard

void cave
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Ah maybe

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Wasn't aware there was one in DC

shrewd marten
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You act like most chars take levitate into account

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Afaik the only one is Terra firma cresselia for literally no reason other than to be harder

warm haven
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also barry's empoleon is weak to grass

uncut drum
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Should be fighting weak instead to match his Empoleon from Palmer's UB

neat needle
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Yoooooooo I finally got SkylaSophoKEK AveryPointAndLaugh LarryDead

void cave
opaque dagger
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And elektross is the one exception iirc

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That has no weakness naturally (no air balloon a-muk, burn up pure fire mons and we're post gen 6 so no sableye/spiritomb)

void cave
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Yeah, so it's the only mon this weird edge case should apply to

shrewd marten
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Wack

modern portal
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It's an oversight.

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Starts as Piplup, gains Steel when becoming Empoleon.

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All it is.

chilly dawn
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Emmet and Eelektross is an entirely feasible UB possibility I feel

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The intention being that it's the "Normal weak" one bc immune to actual weakness

warm haven
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it could be without weakness, so normal has the same advantage as every other type

stable tundra
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Or they could ignore the ability

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Hugh having Eelektross in DC is weak to Ground

rotund oasis
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wwrong channel ;o

whole field
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Just give eelektross "ground guard" but have a ground weakness

modern portal
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Just give it Terra Firma 10.

slate light
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i think you mean Weakness Hit: Zero Damage these days

calm summit
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Man I wanna do the ultimate battles but get too confused looking at the Google doc with submissions

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If anyone wants to hold my hand and help 🌚

mental jasper
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What specifically are you confused by?

calm summit
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Tiles for each pair, and then if being EX is necessary for some

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Links were bein a little weird on my phone too

mental jasper
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yeah either open the sheet in the Google Sheets app or on desktop, the Sheets preview in Discord mobile is abysmal

calm summit
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Ah yeah that explains it

mental jasper
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but for most of the clears the listed investment is required, ultimate battles are no slouch

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Grid especially makes a huge difference when the margins are as tight as they are

calm summit
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Which are easiest 3 to clear?

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I’ve only done Lucy’s

mental jasper
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That’s going to depend a lot on your roster, but I’d say Lucy, Noland, and maybe Argenta (I think she’s the grass weak one? I always confuse Anabel and Argenta) or Darach as third easiest. But that’s also coming from a player who has top counters for all the UBs

calm summit
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I like to think I got a good roster let me see

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Got these guys. If I just follow tips/other runs u think I’m chillen?

mental jasper
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Yeah, you’ve got a good roster. I don’t know if rats still clear all the UBs but at worst they clear the majority of them

calm summit
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Rats and zapdos prob right?

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U know if there is anything specific about them I gotta do for sync grid, or setting up

mental jasper
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Every clear on the doc has grids and a video guide provided as a requirement to get it on the sheet, so just follow those. They will change, sometimes drastically, between battles

calm summit
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Aight when I can get to my computer or somethin I will

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Was tryna do some quick cleats while watching Kaiju 8 lol

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Clears*

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Yo there are energy orb caps now?

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What is that

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I havnt played in a few months

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Sync orb*

mental jasper
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It’s a maximum energy increase of +2 per move level for 20000 orbs. It’s generally only recommended once you have everyone gridded and is for endgame players who have tens of thousands of spare orbs

calm summit
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Gotcha

novel fog
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Annoying fucking UB

void cave
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Over a third of the runs on the sheet use NC Serena lol

final yacht
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She's either hardest or 2nd hardest depending on who you ask lmao

void cave
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Oh Nita is so much harder

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Nothing beats Nita so far

snow spruce
# calm summit Got these guys. If I just follow tips/other runs u think I’m chillen?

Your best team is likely Irida - NC Red - Cynthia (Lucario). That one team can do all 9 UBs, though some will be harder than others and Irida might require 3/5 on some of the clears (I would make her 3/5 anyway, but thats up to you).
Also when you use it - you can replace Cynthia with NC Blue for Anabel and Leon (heavy fire damage there and also better paralysis for leon), for the other 7 keep Cynthia if she has her Sprint role unlocked (it's very good on supports, so its advised to give her the role cake)

The other team is SST Red + Ash + NC Blue - that team can do 6/9 UBs.
-for Anabel you would need to replace Blue with SS kris or SS Mina (and even then it's not easy), but you dont have them I think. So for Anabel you will probably need to use the Ice team with Blue
-for Argenta - you need both double rebuff and weather and you dont have Adaman. Honestly I would just use Irida - NC Red here again, kek.
-for Nita - 100% use the ice team and even then you will need to play very well just to do it. Probably just copy a video clear

so overall either use a mix of rats and Ice team .. or mostly just the Ice team (except on leon - rats/SST Red are the best there)

novel fog
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Been trying to clear Palmer with the psychic team, it feels like u really need Adrenaline1 on NC Rosa, I don't have that

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I think Nita is indeed very hard

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And Leon is very restrictive

void cave
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Yeah, I managed to scrape by Nita with Egg Lapras in place of Irida

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The biggest issue if anything was keeping Lapras alive the whole time

void cave
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NC Blue

novel fog
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Is there a substitute for him?

void cave
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Grusha seems to work

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Depends on the move level

novel fog
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Don't have either, sadge

void cave
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What's your roster looking like

novel fog
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By how much does the egg Lapras debuff speed? -1?

void cave
novel fog
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I do have NC Cheren

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Who debuffs speed a lot better, and has good damage

void cave
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That's good, if he's at 3/5 he can outpace Nita's speed buffs

novel fog
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1/5 sadly, planned on 3/5ing him but there are some other options for me

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Waiting for anni to grab SS Wally

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Or just pity him from mix tomorrow

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SC Steven too

void cave
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Having someone to overwrite weather is also a must, like SS Morty

novel fog
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Yeah, waiting for anni to get him too

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Had zero luck during his reruns

void cave
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This challenge is very much designed with Irida in mind, so hopefully she runs soon, but not too soon cause I'm saving for anni lol

valid raft
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Irida for the gimmick, Red for burst

novel fog
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That's the exact problem for me to pick my mix pity, next month will probably have SS Kris, which I really want

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To complete my mono water team mostly, but I have cleared Anabel today so I'm chilling

void cave
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Yeah, I'm having to plan around the fact that I'm gonna be pulling for 4 Master Fairs come September

novel fog
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Wanted Irida too for my NC Red

void cave
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3 anni units + Kris

novel fog
void cave
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Damn, nice lol

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I'm at about 28k non-paid

novel fog
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I had to pity Cheren

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Did not plan on pulling tbh, but I fell for it

void cave
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I have a hard to time keeping paid gems since I do Daily Discounts a lot

novel fog
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I had a shitty experience with those, so I stopped

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But when my gacha addiction hits me, I'm screwed

void cave
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Fair, though I did get SS Ethan from one

novel fog
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I mostly want SS Wally to complete my mono fairy team, also shiny gardevoir and Wally in general

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And fairy, obviously

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But he has so many clears like on Palmer

void cave
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Yeah, SS Wally has been on my list for a while since I have Penny and SS Gladion

novel fog
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Yup

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It's going to be tough, I want Fall Roxanne too

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But Lucy is mad easy so I'm not rushed

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NC Leaf carries

void cave
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Yeah NC Leaf is the GOAT

hearty cedar
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As expected

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The madlad did it

low coral
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Sadly, there won't be video

nocturne arch
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Hey. I forgot how to beat battle challenge in the event called twins stars far apart.

It said I have to use flying and steel with hoenn character.

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Yes. It does require Tate and Liza summer outfit. But I don’t have it

gentle mural
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You don't have to do both missions at the same time

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You can do 1 run with any Flying + Steel

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And another with any 2 Hoenn

nocturne arch
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I forgot to mention that any debuffs didn’t effect the better damage. I keep getting at least 1k-5k damage. It’s not enough.

gentle mural
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If I remember correctly the enemy will take reduced damage unless it has a Status Condition like Paralysis, Burn etc

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Paralysis is encouraged here

calm sand
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or you can use Solgaleo

gentle mural
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I forget it exists

snow spruce
hearty cedar
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Thats one of the JP youtubers beating noland ub with that team

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He said its an obvious result so he wont be posting a video but gave us a screenshot as proof

viral delta
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Bahahaha

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Looks like Hugh's Eelektross forgot that it can levitate today

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Lucky us

mental jasper
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#1255888121648644197 but also immunity isn’t a thing at all in PoMa

snow spruce
novel fog
# hearty cedar As expected

It's kinda obvious that this team is capable of beating it, I did it with a 1/5 NC Cheren and a 3/5 NC Serena instead of Anni Skyla

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A 3/5 NC Cheren with good flying zone uptime should clear this easily, you just let him tank and you time fly to dodge fissure

hearty cedar
hearty cedar
nimble zenith
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Which team is better?

stable tundra
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Vilda team

nimble zenith
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Ok

primal leaf
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to beat Argenta, I need to be able to set rebuff and change weather twice right? Once at beginning, and at 50%, when she sets rain again and removes rebuffs?

stable tundra
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yes

primal leaf
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got it. NC Rosa not great then, since she uses up her 2 rebuffs right away... (I'm on stage 10 of BR, and the bonuses are for Sprint and Support . I have NC Silver who can change weather, but I don't know how to set rebuffs twice. My double bonus units are NC Rosa, SSA Cynthia and Redlax... don't think I can use all 3 for max bonus)

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any recommendations?

low coral
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You can use any Status Change, actually

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While Argenta cures them every move if they're a interference, Rosa has a way to apply it again 100% of the time via Teeter Dance

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As long as Rosa uses Teeter Dance before your damage dealer moves, Argenta will receive full damage, even on the second half

primal leaf
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so maybe after 50% just spam teeter dance? that might work?

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so maybe NC Rosa NC Silver and ... SS Gladion for more oomph? I don't think I can sneak SSA Cynthia or Redlax in since dps will be just really low

stable tundra
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is this for Battle Rally btw? since you mentioned double bonus

low coral
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Unless you got some stat/damage boosts, yeah

primal leaf
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yes BR

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I guess I'm in wrong channel now

stable tundra
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then it's better ask in the right channel #1009564564821639379

primal leaf
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initial question was about UB so just continued the convo 😄

nimble zenith
stable tundra
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is there any reason you want to run OG Leaf btw?

nimble zenith
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Potions and adrenaline

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Since she can raise stats more for hilda's rising tide.

stone scarab
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not really necessary, Hilda maxes her own rising tide incredibly easily

opaque dagger
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(rising tide caps at 18 buffs)

nimble zenith
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Oh ok

stable tundra
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#1255888121648644197 for specific help please

knotty oyster
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Right thanks

dim lance
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Emmet tank Vs Noland, lol

final yacht
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I mean

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damage guard is damage guard SeleneLul

uncut drum
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I thought his playstyle is too slow but guess he can still work

low coral
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So it's more about the opportunity it presents

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Not extending the battle and having low HP is also nice to not have his multipliers often turned off

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As the other enemies will often naturally buff themselves back

dim lance
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Tosakinto often pushes how he'll be excellent for EBEs if he gets a strike cake

low coral
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Grusha helps with it, but Grusha often has the opportunity cost to do it early (which isn't the case vs Noland)

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He still wouldn't be excellent for EBEs because he sometimes already misses the mid KO

uncut drum
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It'd especially make his Nita clear so much easier because he can clear her just fine, but then the sides are an issue

solemn bison
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Which channel is for HSE talk

low coral
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#1128052735967764621

lusty sapphire
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Can I ask for team building help here, just started today

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I want to invest in the right trainers for long term

stable tundra
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Hello, please visit #1217072721268314185 to ask. Unfortunately this is not the right channel for that question

teal nymph
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Managed to beat Lucy & Noland today.
I'm not amazing at the game but happy with the teams (mainly the Noland one) that I managed to put together at least. smugcirno

silver spruce
stable tundra
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technically the second f2p team on Darach

lunar sedge
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GOATdie Poger

stable storm
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wth

paper mural
stable tundra
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Bertha Sycamore L Gladion iirc

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you can check the pins for clears

stable storm
stone scarab
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It has a bunch of field effects

stable storm
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true

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also haze for darach buffing

paper mural
stable tundra
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yeah mb i mixed up with Argenta

stone scarab
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I know dark was working on it for a while and got close, figured they just got it after enough time

paper mural
stone scarab
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I'm aware

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Darach is also possible with that team because of a less inflated health pool that gets chipped away by all of Bertha's field effects quite conveniently

jade marsh
stone scarab
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yeah, that's fair

jade marsh
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But yes it is possible and i have gotten very close, i just need to do it

dim lance
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Gorin doin work

nimble zenith
stable tundra
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have you ever checked the pins to see what teams you can replicate?

nimble zenith
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I have but it's a bit much to handle at once. With all the info.

stable tundra
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we do feel the same

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it's easier and saves a lot of your time to look into the doc instead

north locust
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I noticed from the pins that Blue and Red together can beat Leon, but is there anyone I can add (so I don't have to invest more into Red and Blue WulfricKEKW)?

low coral
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You shouldn't have any issue regardless of who you choose

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But, for an easier time, you can take someone who gets a reliable paralysis

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I'm not sure what do you mean by investing more into them if they're already 3/5 EX lol

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If Red's not EXR, you can take Volkner to double down on paralysis and Electric Terrain reliability, as that will allow you to run Cakewalk on Red

north locust
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This is what I meant by investment TabithaHehe

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I'm not strong enough to candy them more lmao

mental jasper
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Leon just needs those at the move levels you're showing (in your original screenshot)

north locust
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Yeah, but could I add a teammate that could lower them to 3/5 EXR?

mental jasper
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probably literally anyone

north locust
stable tundra
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Ropal just suggested Volkner

mental jasper
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I might see if I can lower that duo to 3/5 EXR +6e on both since I feel like that should be doable but I also don't have any ways to get Status Immunity on Blue
nvm forgot about my guaranteed cookies

novel fog
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Do you think NY Wallace could be replaced with a 5/5 Mix Blue? (Palmer)

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Also, can a 1/5 SS Diantha work ? LarryDead (doc shows 5/5)

river prawn
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Iirc, Wallace was used there to also fish for team damage guard

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Making it so the team survives longer

novel fog
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Blue has max guard

river prawn
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Well it's not team guard, and it's probably not good wasting max flare

novel fog
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Ah well

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What about this team? can anyone replace Summer Gardenia?

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I have 3/5 NC Serena if she could work? or Summer Gardenia provided something else?

spiral summit
#

She gives Ghost Zone

novel fog
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Yeah but besides that?

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NC Serena can also debuff defense

spiral summit
#

I mean you can try it

novel fog
#

SpDef*

spiral summit
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By those team have high rng already

novel fog
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Oh really

spiral summit
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Yep

novel fog
#

I don't know much about Palmer

spiral summit
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Really good gears too

novel fog
#

There is a SS Steven/SS Lana/NC Rosa team

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I have all 3 at 3/5 + Caked

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The thing is that it seems like HS1 is a must

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On NC Rosa

spiral summit
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I saw that team

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But he has 5/5 EXR Steven with +10E

novel fog
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Oh that is what the difference is about

spiral summit
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NC Rosa didn’t have HS1

spiral summit
novel fog
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What does he get from 5/5

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Or the expansion in general?

spiral summit
#

He also can debuff SpDef at 5/5

novel fog
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Any other super useful tiles?

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ah

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I don't have a team to clear Palmer with LarryDead

novel fog
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Or the fight should be over by that time

spiral summit
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Do you know why people pray for SS Diantha has Field cake ?

novel fog
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I do, I am a prayer myself

spiral summit
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Her B Move has extremely long animation

novel fog
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I have three of those in reserve for her and SS Morty

spiral summit
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And it costs a lot of Zone times

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Like you can throw 2 B Move and Zone already gone

novel fog
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I thought of 3/5ing her for MPR

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But some others said that it is not worth it cause I should be deleting the stage with the other two before I need more rock zone uptime

spiral summit
#

I dont have Paulo so i dont know whag that team can do

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You can try it yourself

novel fog
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I'm not that good tho

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i'll try to roll for gears

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Since its mono-rock

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Aaaaaand, I'm out of feathers

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Okay it won't work

stable tundra
#

idk if you have cleared Darach before, but you can replicate Bertha Paulo NC Silver team

novel fog
#

I did

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Only missing Leon, Nita and Palmer

cyan fulcrum
#

woohoo! i beat nolan
at first looking at the guides i was like how do people figure out when to use wide guard, how they know he's going to use fissure
but after trying 2 times i understand he rotates between them, then i am like ohhh so this is how you know what moves ahead of time
and then i just need to be lucky for wide guard to refresh, and proceed i beat the stage

round vale
#

Any videos, links whatever for the super sparring event?

chilly dawn
round vale
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Ok

final yacht
#

PALMER WeezingLFG ping @low coral since we talked about it lol

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The end of the run wasn't super clean, it didn't really go according to plan, but who cares PalmerPathetic

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turns out a better grid on palmer and dc2 on lana make the run easier (still requires 3/5 anabel to tank the final sync)

boreal abyss
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defense crush gamer hell yeah

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love to see palmer getting used

silver spruce
final yacht
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If it went as planned, I believe regular Normal gears would work
But here I couldnt get both Reflect and crit-shield so gear stats were useful (135 HP, 30 Def, no dmg reducing passive)

uncut drum
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https://youtu.be/S7alnFkW3HU
No one was using Egg Jolteon so might as well

I was this close to do a duo of just Red and Blue, but unfortunately terrain doesn't last long enough, and Red only having 3 times is sadly not enough. Otherwise Red counters Leon almost perfectly

So I fixed it but giving them the cheapest option I could find, Eggmon Jolteon, who has no use in this battle aside from advancing the sync countdown...

▶ Play video
fading walrus
#

Well those two can duo so...

stable tundra
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*with higher investment levels

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they can't duo at 3/5 EX R

fading walrus
#

Oh is red 1/5?

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It's not in the title

uncut drum
#

Yeah Red is 1/5

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I believe they can duo even as they are but I haven't figured out the correct strategy for it

snow spruce
#

new UB datamine soon ...

orchid bridge
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Inb4 it is even more bs than Nita WEEZing

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Fuck Nita, dumb gimmick stage AcerolaPensive

silver spruce
#

I'm surprised we haven't had a ghost stage yet

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with all the ghost pairs this month

paper mural
#

It's even more absurd that we don't have psychic UB yet.
This type is as stacked as water, fire or electric.

stable storm
#

imagine dragon ub next month

silver spruce
stable storm
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Or hassel

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I think Hassel is coming next month so we could get a dragon ub that is weak to him

silver spruce
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I'm going to cry if its around NC Nate, I had to skip him for clair

river prawn
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UB correlating to banners is rare

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to current banners at least

silver spruce
#

Dragon wouldn't surprise me though

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we have Five pokefair dragons that need ex role off the top of my head

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Lance, SS Cynthia, Lucas, BT Leon, Anni Raihan, SS Leon

stable storm
silver spruce
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yup

warm haven
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i wonder if they're gonna finish ex roles by the anni month

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i believe next month lucas leon(x2) and raihan are getting the role, and lance + cynthia for anni

silver spruce
#

we still have a few more too

stone scarab
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there's kinda way too many pokefairs still to go for that tbh

slate light
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unless it's like last month where they threw like, what

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17? or somth

stone scarab
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it was like 13

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and even if we got two months of that we still wouldn't quite be done

small basin
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sadge how anni raihan is gonna be the last of the 2.5 anni trio to get his exr Hopium

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been waiting for his since anni may's

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i hope it's good

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base raihan needs his too

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actually none of the pokefairs in the monthly scout have their exrs now that i think about it, maybe they'll mass drop them and add volo, rika and kabu to the pool (copium)

slate light
#

i imagine flyhan will get support personally

small basin
#

i feel like he has a pretty good chance for all the rolls pretty equally

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he can ramp w/ weather setting and max move (sprint)
can set up his nuke and debuff aoe (strike)
helps enhance the team, mun and seun (support)
already sets sun and sandstorm, why not a third wtz (field)

stone scarab
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i see him getting field more than anything else personally

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but who knows

small basin
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for duraludon i just straight up want tech lol

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anything else would kinda suck tbh

slate light
#

dena will hyperfixate on him getting defense bonuses during weather and try to make him a weird tank TabithaHehe

small basin
stone scarab
warm haven
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he's an enchanter, sync accel, field manager AND has a good nuke and self sufficiency

small basin
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plus we already have a strike sprint steel in poppy

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so im Hopium that rules it out a bit

orchid bridge
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Plus a Gmax update so he can set sand too Hopium

gentle mural
stone scarab
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Anni Raihan bestie

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Dragon type

small basin
snow spruce
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Dragon UB would be cool in August or September

final yacht
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Normal UB because it keeps switching weakness somehow GladionSip

fading walrus
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Ghost UB for mf volo the month after

paper mural
#

Nah, Arceus as a UB boss by himself and no trainers.

rain sorrel
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Fairy UB would be fine as long as it doesn't shower us in debuffs like SS Gladion EB did

stable storm
#

Hau ebe but cranked upto ub level

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with dragon zone and being unbeatable in dragon zone

valid raft
stone scarab
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Please do not

valid raft
#

Actually, make an EB where they do massive amounts of status ailments with all of the enemies having things like Stop Hitting Yourself 9 and Opp Paralyzed: Up 9

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And they have passives that ignore passive status ailment immunity

hearty cedar
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Downside up units:- where did it bring you? Back to me

slate light
#

base mina impervious gaming

valid raft
hearty cedar
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Lol

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Laughs in nc.leaf's solar immunity

boreal abyss
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If a dragon weak UB drops

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You can bet I am going Draco meteor Rayquaza

hearty cedar
#

You are a true stan

boreal abyss
#

Just to see how far

valid raft
boreal abyss
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I think it can be done

hearty cedar
boreal abyss
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Depends on

hearty cedar
boreal abyss
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Bulk of the stage and gimmicks

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Just gonna be a big "if"

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For now

hearty cedar
#

Bulk wouldn't be a problem when he "won" against anabelWEEZing

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Gimmicks, yeah it'll depend on them

valid raft
#

I wouldn't be surprised if the gimmick actually requires you to bring screens

boreal abyss
#

Eh depends still how many HP

stone scarab
boreal abyss
#

Cuz it's Draco meteor, not Dragon Ascent

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But will see in the future

valid raft
hearty cedar
#

Dragon ub may ask for field effect + screens

boreal abyss
#

Screens you say?

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Interesting 🤔

hearty cedar
#

Screens may be unlikely but it'll ask for some kind of debuff

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There are so many dragons with some kind of specialty

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Can ss cynthia debuff the enemy? Only para right?

boreal abyss
#

I remember only para

hearty cedar
#

Cris, leon, nate all have debuffs

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Lucas also has debuffs

slate light
#

paralysis and she's got some level of sync cd reduction

hearty cedar
#

I'm expecting field + debuffs

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Fluid fortification would be annoying again

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But should be simple enough with nate + dragapult

slate light
#

ciris exr next month i cope

hearty cedar
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Hoping for field

exotic dome
#

My 2 cents are on a fairy weak UB

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Bc they like to throw Ubs for MF that have not been running for a couple of months so SSGladion it is

leaden dagger
#

Should I just wait for 5/5 ssmina or something, I'm still not able to beat anabel cause she is just bs

mental jasper
#

Where exactly are you struggling in the Anabel fight? I don’t see any reason why your roster shouldn’t clear with the investment you have right now

leaden dagger
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Idk she just barely takes anything

mental jasper
#

Are you spending as much of the fight as you can in rain?

leaden dagger
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Like she's supposed to be weakened but yet she just decided to say damage means nothing to her

leaden dagger
#

Honestly I don't even know what I'm doing wrong myself

mental jasper
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the Weakened status means anything from a 5% to 50% damage reduction depending on number of debuffs, so just make sure Serena is debuffing to at least -10 across all stats which is easy to do on the innate kit

leaden dagger
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Yeah im trying to but the sides also decide to dish out near one shots like it's a bargain sale

mental jasper
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That really shouldn't be a problem with rain up, Mina TM can also nullify the need for vigilance opening up fire guard on the support and creating a safe avenue for cs2 on your damage dealers

leaden dagger
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Yeah look at this, I don't understand what is happening

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Is it because 1/5 cerena? 3/5 ssmina? I just can't figure out why

mental jasper
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1/5 Cerena can and has done it, you're syncing with May in that team regardless

leaden dagger
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Yeah even that I knew, I've tried with base kris, nothing, djgloria, nothing, this is my latest today for extra rain chances and still nothing

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Could it be ssmina's grid?

mental jasper
#

no flameproof immediately stands out to me

thin canyon
#

Try selecting team whismcal immunity

leaden dagger
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Isn't that already in there?

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Yeah here we go

thin canyon
#

Maybe instead of tse go for refreshing rain for more heals on mina at least have to reset for tm mpr on may though to max crit

leaden dagger
#

Literally still nothing

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What is this game on right now?

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Even got the mpr for may tm

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But the damage just doesn't exist for some reason

leaden dagger
clever widget
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Are you taking this team directly from a guide?

leaden dagger
#

Looking at the docs on winning teams

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Working with the best I got

clever widget
#

Are you using the same move order as the video?

I’m looking at your own video and perhaps you’re not getting lucky with SpDef debuffs, but I can’t say for sure since I don’t have Cerena

leaden dagger
clever widget
leaden dagger
#

Yes

spiral summit
#

But

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Why you used B Move so early ?

leaden dagger
#

Not really much else I can do to protect the others when the sides still hit like a train

spiral summit
#

Like you used it at turn 2

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When all team still have GH from Mina’s Tm

#

You literally can save it after Anabel’s Sync

leaden dagger
#

Yeah still nothing cause the damage just won't happen

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And that was the second sync from anabel

spiral summit
#

How CobalionSquint

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Why does May have +2 crit ?

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You didn’t reset for Tm ?

leaden dagger
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Mor didn't proc that time but it didn't matter, the damage still doesn't happen enough before that second sync

spiral summit
#

Are you sure ?

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Bc i am doing that team rn

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Ofc i didn’t win

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But the dmg isn’t low like you said

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You just missed crit

leaden dagger
#

Hold on can I ask what level is cerena?

opaque dagger
#

Also if skill gears

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Bc I think he's using a water pin and bandanna

spiral summit
leaden dagger
#

Yeah I still, still, can't do it

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Like I'm really trying here

spiral summit
#

83%

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Why Serena still have B Move ?

leaden dagger
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Cause of refresh on anabel

mental jasper
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huh what refresh

leaden dagger
#

Iirc 50% leads to her just restoring it off

mental jasper
#

argenta is what you're thinking of

spiral summit
#

Anabel doesn’t have any refresh

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That Argenta thing

leaden dagger
#

Could've sworn she did, huh ok one last time, if this doesn't work I'm giving up again

spiral summit
#

Like idk how she still had 83%

mental jasper
#

even without ex may I was still able to get to below 50% myself, I died to second sync because I didn't flinch and didn't have crit for half the battle but those are immediatly identifiable areas to improve upon and probably lead to a clear with an ex that I don't have

leaden dagger
#

I give up, this is still impossible for me

spiral summit
#

But May need to crit all Sync

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And need 1 Tm mpr from Mina for Crit Shield

leaden dagger
#

I'm just gonna wait till the game decides to be generous for once and give me sskris, the one that the stage was intended for

spiral summit
#

Even SS Kris still struggle again this stage

mental jasper
spiral summit
#

I just think you didn’t play this stage correctly

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Bc only deal to 60% Hp

leaden dagger
#

I still don't see it for myself right now

spiral summit
leaden dagger
#

Still insane that this is the first one made and they broke it this badly

mental jasper
spiral summit
#

This run dead anyway

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May got burn

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Mina didn’t give mpr

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I just show this team can kill Anabel before 2nd Sync

leaden dagger
#

OK one last time but this time nc blue, if he somehow doesn't help, I'm done, one of the suggested teams shows this, it better work

spiral summit
leaden dagger
#

Yep still nothing, fully done with this bs stage

sturdy ore
#

.

fervent mulch
# sturdy ore .

The only unit with a grid is hop which is shown at the end of the clear.

You want to use your first action buffing allister and then using Sabrina tm on him to fully buff him up, hop needs acuity to stop any accuracy debuffs from occurring

You want to save a Sabrina tm in the case allister gets too low

You also want to focus on killing the left side ASAP as earthquake is a run killer once Victor is down and you want to kill it as shown here

spiral summit
#

@leaden dagger

leaden dagger
spiral summit
#

You just didnt spent enough time for better rng

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I know, spent time for this game is horrible

shrewd marten
spiral summit
#

3/5 Cerena (No grid or Sync)/May/ 2/5 SS Mina

spiral summit
shrewd marten
leaden dagger
#

The link for tools doesn't work

spiral summit
#

Mine didn’t give my Serena any SpA bc mine is 3/5, but your gears should give her some

leaden dagger
#

So what about the grid for mina if 3/5?

spiral summit
#

It is up to you, do you want to reset for May tm mpr ?

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Bc you also need to reset for Mina’s Tm mpr

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But i recommend you EX Serena tho, extra stats help her survive better and deal more dmg

leaden dagger
#

I thought it was the exr that does the stat buffs which I've already done

mental jasper
#

exr does, 20/20 does as well

opaque dagger
#

20/20 gives +100 HP and +40 the other stats to base 5* pairs

leaden dagger
#

Should I also try to invest into her on level too cause my roster kinda hurting on choosing between them

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I only got 1 single tech candy just a heads up

leaden dagger
#

I still cannot do this, it's flat out impossible for me

spiral summit
#

What is your May grid ?

#

Bc how did you May have Refreshing Rain 1 for full dmg grid ?

leaden dagger
#

This was copied from one of those suggested ones that did win

spiral summit
#

You never look at her grid like at all ?

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That is a dps grid

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Not a nuke grid

#

You didn’t look at my May’s grid too ?

fading walrus
leaden dagger
#

Idk somehow worked for whatever team used it

spiral summit
#

That her dps grid

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Which didn’t touch her Sync like at all

#

And you didn’t look at my team grid just why ? Why you only care about SS Mina ?

leaden dagger
#

......I'm done, I'm throwing in the towel

fading walrus
#

How are you dead at 96%

#

Wtf

spiral summit
#

Sr but i only see skill issues now

leaden dagger
#

Or rather the game is that jank

#

I should have won this looong ago but nope

#

ARE YOU SERIOUS GAME JUST GIVE ME THE STUPID WIN

fervent mulch
leaden dagger
#

I have no idea myself

#

The game just decides to do so

fervent mulch
#

Are you syncing with may or Mina first?

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Because when I did this fight with SSKris I found syncing with may to be almost never worth it

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It would net me losing out on more than I gained syncing with her

spiral summit
mental jasper
fervent mulch
#

1/5 Cerena has a better sync than 5/5 may

leaden dagger
fervent mulch
#

I believe dreamy has a clear with 1/5 cerena that’s in the doc

mental jasper
#

that was an ex cerena though

fervent mulch
#

I wouldn’t attempt this battle without ex Cerena

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There’s no rush to clear these fights anyways

leaden dagger
#

More like I shouldn't attempt this battle ever cause it's still bs

spiral summit
#

Even both EX

fervent mulch
#

I suppose I remember wrong as in the past my Cerena did out nuke my may even with -6 accuracy on the foe suppose I am wrong

spiral summit
#

Both have -2 Rebuff and Rain

leaden dagger
#

Legit the mina mpr never wants to go off but may's fine to happen quite a bit, there is no way the game is cheating this bad

fervent mulch
leaden dagger
#

I swear it is specifically mina's that will never go off

#

I had both may and mina mpr go off, and yet again it's still impossible, this is more or less a scripted loss

mental ibex
#

I'm trying to do nita, following somebody's build from the cheat sheet, but cheren just can't survive the 2nd sync

#

Anybody have tips?

mental jasper
#

looks like not good enough skill gear tbh

mental ibex
#

What do I need to up? Hp? Phys def?

#

He gets one shot from 100

leaden dagger
#

Do you got the feather/gear set up that actively meant for nc cheren? Hold on

#

Iirc it's this one

mental ibex
#

Ah I've got the feather for it

#

I should throw that on a bracelet and not a pin?

stable tundra
#

Nita uses her TM right before second sync, make sure her speed is 0 or below first

mental jasper
mental ibex
#

Okay ima try again! Thanks guys👍

stable tundra
mental jasper
#

it’s more after the first sync the countdown is 1 so you can’t do much between them

hearty cedar
#

Giovanni ub?

lunar sedge
#

Dark type UB Thonk

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Or maybe bug

#

Assuming it's Mewtwo

broken crag
#

would suck if its bug weak

#

since then i gotta off type

hearty cedar
#

Probably needs sleep spam + dmg field

low coral
#

[legend_theme_6070_001] Prepare for the opponent’s powerful
stat increases! Use a Dark Damage Field!
[legend_rule_6070_001] The first time Mewtwo’s HP reaches 80%
and 40% or lower, it endures with that HP.
[legend_rule_6070_002] Powers up the opponent’s moves, sync
move, or both when their stats are raised.
[legend_rule_6070_003] When the opponent is not affected by a
field effect, its Defense and Sp. Def
are tripled.

river prawn
#

Darach 2.0

#

SC Zinnia could be good for stealing stats and blocking raises, same as Brycenman

lunar sedge
#

Is it any type of stats?

stable storm
#

do we know the details about gio ub yet

stable tundra
#

yes, right above you

#

that's all we have known so far

low coral
#

NC Leaf will 100% be a top unit here

stable storm
#

so or maybe grimsley

#

*leaf or zinnia or maybe copium grimsley

#

could ss cyrus do something here

low coral
#

upcoming Hoopa-Unbound

stable storm
#

my gems....

low coral
#

Won't be a counter, but a solid supportive unit

stable storm
#

if it has too much hp I am probably fucked

#

My only dark dd is furry Hilbert

#

*fall

low coral
#

I mean

#

Giovanni is a prime target to the usual top tiers

#

Electric and Ice naturally check him, most likely

#

Ice, depends on the buffs, but Electric 100% does

valid raft
low coral
#

As Electric debuffs all 5 main stats

broken crag
#

why the hell did they make UB even more annoying with 2 endures

valid raft
#

Because Akari

hearty cedar
low coral
#

Any field effect that works on the enemy side or both sides

valid raft
#

It has to affect the enemy side

river prawn
#

So even the field effect that blocks raising stats

river prawn
#

Oh I read it wrong sorry

valid raft
#

Oh that one

stable storm
hearty cedar
#

Fairy, poison and flying should be able to clear

stable storm
#

no Lear 5/5....

valid raft
#

I'm gonna list down what UBs are made for which units

stable storm
#

he could have been useful with snatch if grid gave him aoe buff block

stable storm
hearty cedar
stable storm
#

poison probably clears as well

#

oleana + Geeta

#

checks evrything

hearty cedar
#

Poison should be able to clear with multiple combinations

stable storm
#

what about fire

hearty cedar
#

Oleana + geeta
Ss roxie + geeta
Klara + oleana
Etc

#

Fire = win

low coral
#

It's more about the powerlevel of the UB and how much they do the stuff they say they do

stable storm
#

oh right leaf

low coral
#

The gimmicks themselves aren't too hard to naturally check, but that also goes for Nita

#

And we know how that went

stable storm
#

Hopefully gio stats are low

#

and buffing is average

hearty cedar
#

Lets not remember about nita. Annoying af ub

stable storm
valid raft
#

Anabel: Serena (Champion), SS Kris
Thorton: NC Leaf, (maybe) SS Morty
Darach: SS Diantha, NC Silver
Argenta: Adaman, (maybe) SS Acerola
Palmer: Rei
Lucy: Roxanne (Fall), (maybe?) SC Adaman
Leon: Ash, SST Red, NC Blue, SS Hau
Nita: Red (Champion) and Irida
Noland: Cheren (Champion), Gloria (Alt. 2)
Giovanni: Akari and SC Zinnia

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Not sure who to include for Noland

stable storm
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ss acerola definitely

hearty cedar
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Time to think of a team for nc.nate against giovanni. If only I had bt.leon

low coral
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Leon ain't for all Electrics, Nita isn't really for Red, and Thorton isn't for Morty

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You can include Hop on Palmer

paper mural
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I think Darach is only SS Diantha. NC Silver didn't exist at the time.

boreal abyss
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Have I really saw Giovanni's UB?

low coral
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Yes

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Dark-weak

boreal abyss
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That's fun

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Odd but welcomed choice

valid raft
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SS Morty is probably one of the best sun supporter out there (also keyword on "maybe" for him)

low coral
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Yes, but that would be like Marnie for Giovanni or Lysandre for Anabel

hearty cedar
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Do we know the hp pool?

stable storm
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no

low coral
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Thorton doesn't even ask for sun

paper mural
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Palmer is definately more than Rei. The idea is using all possible dmg boost, so SSA Cynthia, NC Hop (fighting zone) or NC Rosa (fighting rebuff) should count.

low coral
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Elio is more of a Darach counter than Morty is for Thorton, for example

valid raft
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Actually, 3/5 Rika can also be for Lucy

lunar sedge
valid raft
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Only rain

lunar sedge
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Yeah true

stable storm
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still an intended counter

valid raft
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SS Acerola is overkill even if she does counter one of Argenta's gimmicks

lunar sedge
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But I would still put her as a definite since it's still built around changing the terrain in mind

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Even if it's not entirely necessary

valid raft
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I could also add Larry onto UBs that have No Negative Status Change: x3 Def. and Sp. Def.

warm haven
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Ok boy can't wait for mewtwo to get +6 accuracy

valid raft
low coral
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Debuffing accuracy is rare

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And he thrives on having stats raised

warm haven
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Yeah WEEZing

valid raft
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Maybe I can add 2 separate categories for the UBs. One for the gimmick counter and the other for the damage dealer and maybe one that fits both

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@low coral What do you think?

paper mural
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Or evasion. It'll be more annoying.
We actually have acc debuff on some op units (NC Serena - dark form, NC Red & NC Cheren - Discombobulate in grid), but eva debuff is stuck with mediocre units (Darach, Lisia, Katherine) .

valid raft
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@final yacht I'm wondering, can there be like instructions added in your docs on how to counter the gimmicks of each UB? Just suggesting

craggy wind
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F i dont hv NC Marnie for this UB

lunar sedge
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I mean it's not like it's meant for her mana_sip

snow spruce
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Akari is the main Dark AoE pair now, not Marnie TabithaHehe

snow spruce
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Will need to see the stats and the attacks, but Darach 2.0,debuffs-edition doesnt seem like a big deal. Probably all the teams in my doc will clear it

stable storm
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*tbh

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hopefully we don't get another Nita

final yacht
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Can anyone send me where yall saw the stage gimmicks for Giovanni, I cant find them

rotund oasis
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nnothing yet

covert marlin
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Is Giovanni bug, dark or ghost weak?

uncut drum
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Dark weak

distant estuary
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NC Marnie ex role > Akari

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😉

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Just install dark zone from NCalem

snow spruce
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? Akari sets dark zone, Marnie doesnt. Zone gives a bigger boost than Supp EX
also Akari has more sync multipliers
and her dark field is a perma field for this UB gimmick (one of them)

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NC Calem at UB ? Nah WEEZing
Rather get something tanky

distant estuary
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Akari's dark zone is perma? WTF

snow spruce
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Marnie really counters 0 gimmicks, she is just an AoE Damage dealer with a flinch

warm haven
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Yeah marnie does nothing against the UBs gimmicks

distant estuary
snow spruce
distant estuary
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I was able to get by with preexisting units or mssterfairs, so having to go our of the way to pull pokefairs is kinda ew

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This might be the first UB I can't beat for awhile... =/

snow spruce
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NC Marnie is like a stronger version of SS Serena, who is a stronger version of SS Lusamine.
Unga bunga AoE

distant estuary
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I couldn't clear Palmer for a bit but it wasn't that long before I got NC Bianca and cleared it with full MF fighting team (ssa cynthia, nc bianca, nc hop). But this one might be awhile because these day I pull for msterfairs..

snow spruce
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and new Nemona is a stronger version of NC Marnie
SS Gladion is also similar, but at least he can debuff SpAtk

river prawn
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Nemona debuffs atk

snow spruce
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Oh ? good

distant estuary
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Though it might be inconvenient, couldn't we use NC serena? She's good at stat debuffing... mmh

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  • able to rebuff
stable storm
stable storm
sturdy ore
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really appreciate the effort

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im short on sync orb so this is what im able to manage

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and i dont have any lucky cookie left, my zamazenta only got Vigilance

daring nova
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Finally, my lovely-weak ultimate

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SS-Cyrus/Akari, SC-Zinnia and… Calem should destroy it

distant estuary
small basin
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what no on command defensive buffs do to a mf

daring nova
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Fall Caitlin seems neat

stable storm
distant estuary
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At 3/5 she can debuff atk and def again if the weather is sunny

snow spruce
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wait Nemona wants sunny day ? why would a fairy team have sunny day ?
Pomatools please update

stable storm
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for kits

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it's a reference to protosynthesis

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can nemona debuff speed?

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if so fairy comp might beat Nita

distant estuary
distant estuary
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😉

stable storm
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Maybe if nemona could debuff speed well

distant estuary
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I know ppl say she's bait but her and SS Gladion being both fairy masterfair is like a massive W for me and for fairy in general

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I'm 100% pulling for her bc

  1. Masterfair striker
  2. Fairy
  3. Paldean
  4. Need better fairy roster
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Literally first limited fairy I got was ss gladion

river prawn
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And she is not really bait if the are 3 total mfs for anni when you count her

distant estuary
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I'm betting on it being like 4.5th anni, it feels a bit like a pattern (like nc nate/rosa, 4.5th anni), only exception was nc cheren/bianca

paper mural
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I mean it's not the first time a unit summons a field not directly helping its type.
SS Mina has rain and still no fairy types benefit from it other than herself.

snow spruce
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if Nemona can debuff Atk AND def and also is a weather setter - thats good anti-gimmicks. Better than Gladions honestly

snow spruce
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After looking at Nemonas kit in pomatools - I'm actually a bit underwhelmed.
low-ish Atk and low move BP
sun and circle are tied to 1 move, and both dont have extensions
I suspect SS Gladion might be able to outdamage her just due to higher moves BP (and his b-move having an Ash-like innate on top of that too)
But having a weather does give her some extra utility

valid raft
sturdy ore
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@fervent mulch help

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🥹

valid raft
snow spruce
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and yeah Nemona cant debuff speed, so Fairy team will never be able to beat Nita TT

stable tundra
sturdy ore
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noted

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having a hard time winning this stage for mission :

  • 2 Galar
  • Poison Psychic
stable tundra
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So you are focusing on 2 Galar mission first

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(Alister doesn't count as Poison type)

sturdy ore
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Yes, let's win them one at a time

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either 2 Galar first or Poison Psychic

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this is my poison psychic list & galar list

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my Xerneas Horn Leech carried me on Intelleon stage but less effective on this Grass Gorilla stage

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this is my somewhat useful units

snow spruce
valid raft
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Giovanni has 789k HP GiovanniFedora

snow spruce
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789250 HP

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not stun immune though

valid raft
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Great, not only do they have team stat buffs for every action, they can also debuff your stats too

snow spruce
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Passive 14: Sharpened Body 9
Passive 15: Sharpened Mind 9
Passive 16: Brawn Sync 9
Passive 17: Brain Sync 9
what do these do ? What do you need to debuff ?

valid raft
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All of them only need at least 1 stack of those to activate

rotund oasis
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so impervious is required? hmm

valid raft
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More like SC Zinnia's TM

rotund oasis
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yeah

exotic dome
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Is this the first time we get an UB not related to a MF?

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I mean ncleaf/Ncserena can still do their stuff but I see space for Brycen man this time

lunar sedge
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NC Blue to the rescue Kek

exotic dome
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There’s good form and rising tide too

valid raft
# lunar sedge Oh just these?

Also this
Passive 11: Discombobulate 9
Passive 12: Ripple Effect 9
Passive 13: Double Drop
Passive 14: Group Pep Talk 9
Passive 15: Group Morale Boost 9
Passive 16: Good Form
Passive 17: Move Gauge Refresh 9

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-2 accuracy to your entire team

rotund oasis
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Discombulate 9
ew D:

lunar sedge
valid raft
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Along with +1 Atk. and +1 Sp. Atk. per action

rotund oasis
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basically... Impervious + Ash + an AoE Debuffer that cannot miss ... yikes.

exotic dome
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No stats up
Stat reduction immunity

rotund oasis
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that too huh hrm

snow spruce
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if the sides dont have freeze immune then NC Red can maybe prevent them from attacking (so they dont lower your accuracy) and then you kill them quickly - its only 100k HP

exotic dome
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Fall Roxanne to the rescue

valid raft
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And Giovanni has this too:
Passive 18: S-Move: Team 5 Stats ↑ 2

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5 random stat increase for the team every time he syncs

rotund oasis
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wait

lunar sedge
rotund oasis
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that feels like Leaf'ss Sync Movee properties D:

lunar sedge
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And it's 90 acc

valid raft
distant estuary
valid raft
lunar sedge
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Accuracy debuff

distant estuary
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Ugh... but if it's stat debuffs... looks at SS Gladion

rotund oasis
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damnit. not like thiss ;-;

lunar sedge
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Hmm what's a good substitute for SC zinnia tho

rotund oasis
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I can see Dragapult + Ash + NC Blue .-.;