#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

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sacred sphinx
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Epic I was able to use the rats

slow sky
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Noland kinda limits the kind of support that u can use tbh

stable storm
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yeh, Nolan is less offensively threatening than near sync palmer

fading walrus
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Thankfully Lana exists to cover EQ

slow sky
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since u need to be able to block his fissure on turn 1

stable storm
fading walrus
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The problem is dodging T1 and post second sync

slow sky
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if Lana never existed this stage is almost impossible

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☠️

stable storm
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I think Noland is a lot more fair and less annoying than palmer

sacred sphinx
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The lower HP helps a lot

uncut drum
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This gives me an idea TabithaHehe

hearty cedar
fading walrus
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Mhhh then yeah i guess Shauna + lana + a good amount of Uber tier units can make it?

stable storm
hearty cedar
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Imagine 550k hp on Noland CyrusSweat

snow spruce
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@boreal abyss will you post the Lana-Cynthia-ASteven clear video later?

low coral
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Mahesh is right, it's not that you can block Noland, it's that you need to block Noland

stable storm
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We can successfully use damage blocks is why I think Noland is less offensively threatening

slow sky
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Palmer is in a way, gives you more "flexibility" to build up DPS but punishes u if you fail to knock him out after 6 sync cd

low coral
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Palmer doesn't have that teambuilding restriction

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Noland is frailer because he forces into using usually inferior teams

boreal abyss
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Just a matter of luckily not getting griefed by my iPad lmfao

fading walrus
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Palmer requires optimal damage enhancement

stable storm
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I count being able to block him as him being less scary offensively. At least until you run out of mp

slow sky
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while Noland, is more restrictive due to Fissure and PMUN+10 EQ but his sync hits for way less

fading walrus
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Noland requires niche support/dodge units

hearty cedar
low coral
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Palmer is the opposite, you're forced into trying to optimize your offensive power as much as possible

fading walrus
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Ye

slow sky
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yea

fading walrus
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It's why I hate him

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I rarely 3/5 3 god tier same type units

slow sky
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if Lana never existed, this stage is ridiculous tbh

low coral
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Despite similar gimmicks, how you beat each battle is completely different

stable storm
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Noland doesn't force to optimise your dd

plush gale
fading walrus
low coral
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She is, but she can take a Sync

stable storm
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Palmer does. I think Palmer's one is worse because there are a lot less working dds rn that are obtainable compared to working supports for Noland

fading walrus
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So she folds to sync

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Second sync at least

low coral
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As she got X Defense All

plush gale
fading walrus
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Not worth healing much Vs Noland

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Lana works because she gives team regen

stable storm
plush gale
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Well if you want a little bit challenging don't knock it till you try it

river prawn
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Roxanne also has mpr2 on wide guard

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Not mpr4

low coral
plush gale
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From her Trainer Move

low coral
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You often see people using a solo damage dealer for Noland, while Palmer had people using 3

fading walrus
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Lana has mgr9+3

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She's just a better unit for this overall

final yacht
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I'll continue to try later

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I think it requires 2/5 Anabel for Reflect MPR tho

fading walrus
pliant cove
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Any tips on this? Team always died on max move 😦

low coral
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I think Ice could pull a no Supports

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I would try it, but I don't have Deluxes to give to Tbolt Red

hearty cedar
river prawn
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They are 2/5

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Would be hard

pliant cove
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Which should i 3/5? C!Bianca or C!Hop?

river prawn
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Maybe wait still before commiting

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But I would say 3/5 Bianca is a better pair

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Weirdly, except that one in replays I haven't seen Pal Elesa clears

hearty cedar
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It's kinda funny how ppl got disappointed that bianca has medium level dps but she's not only hanging with others in all ubs but also doing her own thing to beat those stages

fading walrus
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Antigimmick units are rare and underappreciated

hearty cedar
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True

low coral
hearty cedar
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Ye triple dps works against this ub

low coral
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It's mostly Cheren and Red cores to be triple DPS

hearty cedar
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Ye

low coral
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I actually don't think I saw a Cheren triple DPS, but mostly because there's not much to work with

uncut drum
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He probably can

low coral
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Besides what, Bianca + Nate?

hearty cedar
low coral
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Ah, nice

hearty cedar
uncut drum
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Triple Unova, and all of them can avoid Fissure and EQ

hearty cedar
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By nate we are referring to nc right?

low coral
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I didn't try it nor do I plan to, both Nate and Cheren are only 1/5 EX

uncut drum
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Regular Nate

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I have 3/5 EX Cheren

hearty cedar
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Dang it

low coral
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I was talking NC, but regular could work lol

hearty cedar
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Lol

uncut drum
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Regular can just avoid the EQ

river prawn
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I saw a clear of NC Cheren, Anni Skyla and SLiza in reddit

low coral
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Those defensive stats are atrocious

hearty cedar
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So far, the only ub I havent been able to clear with nc.nate was nita. I dont plan on expanding that list so a nc.nate run is coming soon

hearty cedar
low coral
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Cheren and Liza can avoid it

hearty cedar
low coral
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Bianca herself is a decent enabler for it

uncut drum
hearty cedar
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Liza has bounce or fly?

uncut drum
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Elesa isn't so she may die

low coral
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I used Reflect to complement, but Unova Circle Phys can go over Reflect, now it's just a matter of Defense boosts

river prawn
hearty cedar
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Aaah

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I used ash + nc.nate + lana. I only tried once and I went slow to gauge the dmg. If I dont rush the stage then I'd need an extra dmg guard which I dont have, so I need to spam dmg

uncut drum
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If Nate + Elesa + Cheren fails, I'll use Lana instead

shrewd marten
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So Nolan is out?

wary hemlock
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ok whos giving up noland

velvet raven
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Honestly Noland isn’t as bad as I thought it would be

hearty cedar
uncut drum
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As I said it's regular Nate

hearty cedar
shrewd marten
uncut drum
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I have NC Nate but it's for the meme

shrewd marten
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Ncnate legit kinda strong

hearty cedar
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Nita stopped my nc.nate ub runs. She's the only one I couldnt beat with nate(i dont have nc.blue)

low coral
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Idt Blue would help Nate with Nita

river prawn
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A triple Fly clear would be funny

hearty cedar
low coral
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The only third unit you could consider there is a heavily pressured Irida

whole field
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My second attempt with this team ☠️

I got the kill two tries later. (The third attempt didn't get MPR on wide guard)

hearty cedar
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Gratz

whole field
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Noland having +10 pmun after syncing is insane.
It basically makes you NEED evade/Protect

hearty cedar
whole field
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I thought his challenge would just be the fissures

hearty cedar
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You have ash?

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Oh wait you already cleared anyway

boreal abyss
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I hate lag + wide guard quad queue small room timing

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Wish I had a new device to record stuff

hearty cedar
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Pretty sure pmex runs on computers so why not try to record it on it

whole field
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Blue/Zapdos I think has been in all my first clears, except Palmer/Regigigas.

rich heron
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Give us UB palmer for this UB

low coral
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PM doesn't run on PCs

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If you saw widescreen gameplay, those are with external apps to force landscape mode, which not all phones support and also makes the game laggier

boreal abyss
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I gotta practice the time rooms for wide guard quad queues

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I am always missing the last one

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The previous ones all good

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But the last one right when machamp syncs for some reason the ai queues faster than usual and you have like one frame for it

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And honestly I don't wanna run adrenaline 1 on Steven LMFAO

low coral
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Just click Wide Guard again right when the animation is playing

hearty cedar
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The one time I got to quad queue after wide guard was the time I didnt get a mpr on it

low coral
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It should give you more time to requeue

boreal abyss
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Gotcha, bless you

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❤️

low coral
boreal abyss
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Mhm

hearty cedar
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So....any strat to let anni steven win this ub?

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👀

boreal abyss
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Yes already done

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Just recording

hearty cedar
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I know I can always count on youMallowHeart

boreal abyss
peak bridge
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Dabbo literaly the Oprah of PoMa

hearty cedar
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Nah he's better

peak bridge
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Being like " You get a record, you get a record, EVERYONE GETS A RECORD "

hearty cedar
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Dabbo is the only reason why anni steven has ub clear records on his name

eternal yarrow
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I made one wrong move towards the end, and it costed Cheren his life lol. But Lana was able to clean up. This UB is done

hearty cedar
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Summer Hilda BarryPogChamp

boreal abyss
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May I say? That looks fun

low coral
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There were some Summer Hilda showing up

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The unit I actually saw the least out of the three was Leon

hearty cedar
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I didnt see a single leon till now

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Time to do the honorary nc.leaf clear

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Ash + leaf + sstr should do fine ig

rain sorrel
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Imagine throwing away 100k sync orbs on Lodge Skyla and only being to make it to the 50% HP mark. LarryDead

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But yeah, Lodge Skyla is just too frail to eat a bunch of Noland syncs

snow spruce
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I mean replace Falkner and this can probably work ?

rain sorrel
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I doubt it, Falkner and Lana feel mandatory and I was just experimenting with a F2P comp

boreal abyss
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Ok the thing works, now I need some nice defense crush 2 procs like before and ggs

earnest panther
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Falkner isn't mandatory. There are way more units with moves that can avoid fissure

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Lana i would argue is mandatory

stable storm
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hlo

earnest panther
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Lodge acerola, lodge Morty, Og morty, and the goat himself, Nate

shrewd marten
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Obtain debuffs

earnest panther
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You genuinely don't need any tank in this battle

fading walrus
earnest panther
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The only thing you need is something to dodge fissure, something to guard eq and healing

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For sync ofc

raven wharf
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So the strat for noland is to wide guard eq with Lana,get someone who can burst Noland down fast and someone to flinch his fissures?

earnest panther
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You cannot flinch

raven wharf
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Uhh

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How do you beat fissure then

rain sorrel
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Dodge his fissures

earnest panther
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You have to dodge it using phantom force or Fly

snow spruce
earnest panther
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You can also damage guard it but thar's only worth doing if you can beat them before seccond fissure

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Phantom force/fly is more reliable

snow spruce
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With good dps you should be done well before 2-nd fissure. Also even if the first target dies to the second fissure - you can still win with 2 left

earnest panther
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And if you're wondering.
The move order is
Fissure/brick break/x atrack/sync/eq/xattack/sync(/fissure/sync/eq/sync/repeat)

rain sorrel
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Falkner still feels like the best option due to theme synergy but I'll stop trying this comp. It was worth spending the 100k sync orbs on the possibility for it to be achieveable

earnest panther
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Someone be a god and do this with Palelesa

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It's possible lmao

tacit hatch
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lmao I've almost gotten the triple Fly team to work

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i swear that's just one more turn needed... Falkner ran out of fly MP I'll try it again

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if only Nate lived the second sync

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then it would be foolproof

earnest panther
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The fact that Nate gaming is possible

rain sorrel
earnest panther
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Yes

tacit hatch
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bad refresh luck XD

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i took every defense and hp tile on Nate's grid + some pretty beefy skill gear yet he has 52% after the first sync and then dies to the second

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i want this to work it would be so funny

raven wharf
low coral
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One more for the EQ without blocking survivors

tacit hatch
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og Blue gaming BarryPogChamp

orchid bridge
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Now any flying type who can't KO Noland is worse than OG BlueTabithaHehe

low coral
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Anabel + Attack debuffs in general is good for that

earnest panther
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I will be the only clear with fall phoebe. TabithaHehe

river prawn
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Too late

boreal abyss
earnest panther
silver spruce
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I think Noland has the most team diversity we’ve seen since Lucy

rain sorrel
slow sky
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he cannot even be paralyzed or confused

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they really dont want ppl to rely on para/confuse rng to clear lmao

river prawn
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And again this proves, if there is no mention of resilience in datamine, that means immune

rain sorrel
slow sky
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the chance of it happening is really low tbh tho lol

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since they always got like lessen xxx 10 even if not immune

rain sorrel
snow spruce
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So why didnt the datamine show that he starts at 3 counter ? Is that not a passive (~HS3 ) ?

stone scarab
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no it's an innate trait of the fight

frozen meteor
stone scarab
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i have rolled Unbending 12 times trying to roll HS1 for a noland clear because i'm out of 3* Deluxe Cookies

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man

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okay 1* deluxe cookie clutched up

boreal abyss
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No way I just got a notification while pressing the wide guard thing

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Fucking Twitch man, I am fuming hahaha

snow spruce
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can you not just put a DND mode while recording lol ? or something

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The first 3 attacks order is ALWAYS:
-Center - Fissure
-Right - Brick break
-Left - X attack
then sync. correct ?

river prawn
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If you deny the X attack from Left, Center uses fissure

eternal yarrow
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i never wanna redo Nolan UB again... so.. so mechanical

silver spruce
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Noland actually is pretty manageable it seems

eternal yarrow
viral canyon
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Anyone trying Olivia carbink on Noland?
She's... quite decent, I think..

silver spruce
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Sync wall isn’t the issue it’s the +10 pmun

fading walrus
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It's pretty fun if you have

  • cCheren
  • summer Liza + another protect/dodge unit
  • invested altgloria
  • other options like the 5/5 grusha + 3/5 tbolt clear
silver spruce
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He doesn’t crit unless he kills something

snow spruce
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wait a second .. is Noland immune to paralysis only or to ALL status?

fading walrus
silver spruce
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We’ve also seen a sun comp and poison comp

silver spruce
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Ice as well

fading walrus
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He can be burned

river prawn
fading walrus
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Ofc he can't be slept or frozen either

river prawn
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Deny as in kill

fading walrus
slow sky
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probably can be burned or poisoned

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since those dont have a chance that can cause moves to fail

fading walrus
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I need to see the poison clear NGL

river prawn
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It was Emma, Oleana, Anabel

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Gone out of the replays

snow spruce
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I need to see Poison clear (Oleana +SSRoxie) but without Lana/Anabel
It should be pretty easy with SS mina unless I'm missing something

hearty cedar
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Anabel + bianca + leaf would win against noland no?

river prawn
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NC Leaf is meh here, hard to complete nuke multipliers

hearty cedar
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Before noland:-

Ssac + nc.red + irida
Chase + nc.red + irida
Nc.blue + nc.red + irida
Ss mina + nc.cheren + anni skyla

These 4 are the teams that defeated all ubs

Now after noland:- its probably gonna be

Chase + nc.red + irida
Ssac + nc.red + irida
Ss mina + nc.cheren + anni skyla

warm haven
hearty cedar
fading walrus
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Yeah this stage prefers strike nukes

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Because you can't really nuke mid with 2 endures

peak bridge
whole field
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I think Palmer/Regigigas is still the worst designed fight, but this one is a close second.

Nita/Landorus I think was well designed but overtuned on numbers.

slow sky
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woops

whole field
river prawn
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That is an unpopular opinion

hearty cedar
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Imo

Noland is the worst, nita is 2nd worst, palmer and anabel are 3rd

slow sky
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Nita? That is the worst

river prawn
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Noland imo is pretty fun, just like Palmer

peak bridge
river prawn
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Not many rng checks

slow sky
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when u need flinch rng timing to be right to win the battle is bs for Nita's

whole field
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Landorus had ok fight design, but the numbers were tuned too high imo.

Regigigas feels way too restrictive to me.

hearty cedar
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Cant believe I'm saying this but palmer is atleast tolerable. Noland and Nita are just dumpster fires

stone scarab
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feels the complete opposite

river prawn
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I don't get the impression that others are struggling with Noland

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I mean spotlights are clearing it

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So many teams

stone scarab
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palmer has issues but is manageable, nita feels completely overtuned

river prawn
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It's not a bullshit fight

lime apex
whole field
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I'm just glad my two UB MVPs were two units I instantly knew would be good.

BlueDos and Tornadus-I have definitely earned their gem costs

hearty cedar
stone scarab
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yeah i think it's 3rd-4th hardest rn

snow spruce
# hearty cedar Before noland:- Ssac + nc.red + irida Chase + nc.red + irida Nc.blue + nc.red +...

Nc.blue - nc.red - irida was never there. It's missing Thorton and Palmer clears (and I'm pretty sure Palmer is impossible for that team - Blue doesnt really do anything on Palmer for a non-electric team, no Sprint role)
the 4 teams were/are:
-Irida - NC Red - SSA Cynthia = all 9 done
-Irida - NC Red - Chase = Nita/Noland done, but still misses 2 older clears (maybe Ropalme posts them eventually.)
-Oleana - SS Roxie - SS Mina = missing Noland, but I think its doable
-NC Cheren - Anni Skyla - SS Mina = missing Noland, should be ok

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733

stone scarab
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definitely beaten by Nita, probably by Leon and Anabel

river prawn
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Just look at clear variety, and you see that Noland is on the easier side

stone scarab
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it's a fight that needs a specific type of team design that is friendlier than average to spotlights

slow sky
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Nita - the first clear I had gave me a fake impression that my team was a foolproof team to clear, until I tried to reproduce it for recording, I was so wrong on that

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made me realize that the flinch timing had to trigger at the "right time" to win

hearty cedar
hearty cedar
peak bridge
earnest panther
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Even ncred team comp was rng

slow sky
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yeah it was bullshit

stone scarab
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yeah for sure

hearty cedar
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Nita had no business being that annoying

slow sky
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the only team that I managed without rng was with NC Leaf, and that was a very narrow clear

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lol

stone scarab
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only fight i havent beaten on day 1 of release so far

slow sky
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and i still needed Sunny Day MPR to clear

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so in a way

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still need rng

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zzz

stone scarab
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and i doubt noland is changing that

earnest panther
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Noland is at least more manageable

hearty cedar
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Yeah I aint beating noland with my fire team LarryDead

earnest panther
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Especially with MPR 6 on Lana's wide guard

inner heath
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They just need to get rid of 1 nita mechanic, the debuff reset is just bullshit

slow sky
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^

earnest panther
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Genuinely whoever thought clean slate was a good ability deserves to pity an anni unit.

tacit hatch
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I'm having fun with the Noland mechanics in terms of "it's a short and sweet strategy based UB with fun team diversity options" but my opinion could be skewed by "has 3/5 NC Cheren"

hearty cedar
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I hate nita for stopping nc.nate's clearing spreeLilliePout

earnest panther
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3/5 means nothin lmao

tacit hatch
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true that makes sense, with 3/5 first sync and some PMUN stacks he just oneshots the sides XDDD

hearty cedar
earnest panther
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Always get master fairs, they will rerun in over a year from now

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currently a year and a half for nchop LarryDead

hearty cedar
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I'm missing a couple of them. And I still cant get ss kris next monthHildaCry

whole field
hearty cedar
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I'm missing(only mentioning the relevant ones) ss kris, nc.bede, adaman and nc.blue

earnest panther
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Genuinely, NC Cheren saved Flying type

snow spruce
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I did skip Bianca. So far nothing really changed my mind

whole field
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Tornadus and Tornadus 💅

earnest panther
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Bianca is a bit skippable tbh, fighting type has pleenty of options. Rebuff is nice and all, but larry and sc steven can do that for ya

whole field
hearty cedar
earnest panther
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She is still amazing

stone scarab
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i had no interest in cheren's kit tbh

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he's obviously really good, but just doesn't have much for me

hearty cedar
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Lets move this discussion to the main channel

velvet raven
wary hemlock
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lol

earnest panther
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At 3/5

whole field
wary hemlock
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i see all the ppl claiming theres more team diversity yet i see cheren in almost all teams

slow sky
wary hemlock
velvet raven
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She only needs 3/5 for Moltres I’m pretty sure

earnest panther
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Lmao

earnest panther
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To be fair, the rats can beat this as well as Mix red

tacit hatch
earnest panther
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Anabel can deal with 10 pmun

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Which is insane to me

whole field
earnest panther
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Shields

stone scarab
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she has insane bulk under shields

hearty cedar
snow spruce
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any Bellelba clears ? please

earnest panther
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Crit shield, dmaage reduction, protect and whstnot

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Bellelba is bad here

stone scarab
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and crit shield not being bypassed by piercing blows is helpful for her life too

earnest panther
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No way to protect

tacit hatch
hearty cedar
tacit hatch
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*sorry summer hilda

earnest panther
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You are required either a protect move or a damage dodge move

boreal abyss
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The one recording I finally get the quad queue on wide guard but I got unlucky on defense crush 2 procs and this happened lmfao, that’s a first timer hahah, but you can see how it’s clearable

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Just gotta get better luck next time

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Back to record again

slow sky
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but i think that team got booted out tho

earnest panther
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You gotta beliebe, lana can ko

slow sky
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I dont see it there anymore

earnest panther
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Let her sync

hearty cedar
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The ||2nd|| holy black dragon still trying its best to prove ppl wrong

earnest panther
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Payquaza is just Nc Cheren at home if you think about it

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Like genuinely

slow sky
hearty cedar
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WOW, my team clear just got replaced with the same team clear by someone else lol. Just their positions vary

slow sky
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my "rng clear" for Nita's stage is also gone

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glad in a way cos that rng flinch timing was so right on the spot

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its almost impossible to re-create

hearty cedar
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Why replace a team with the exact same team lol, classic dena things

slow sky
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since triggering flinch earlier will also ruin the run

hearty cedar
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Dena didnt store a single nc.nate run I did....and I did all ubs except nita with nc.nate

slow sky
hearty cedar
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Dena still has it against nate WEEZing

gritty vine
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noland funky fissures

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shoot how do you look at the clear sheet again?

hearty cedar
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Noland:- I'm using a fighting type pokemon

Every single player:- X to doubt

shrewd marten
tacit hatch
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how many times does he even punch us

shrewd marten
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Fucker is a ground type

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The sides are fighting type

gritty vine
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only on sync

shrewd marten
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They use close combat do they not?

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Or misremember

river prawn
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Most will use Cheren because he is the easiest and fastest option here, but there are plenty more damage dealers who can solo carry Nolands hp

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And don't involve other broken mfs

stone scarab
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its just his sync that isnt ground type

gritty vine
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how do you access the UB clear sheet again? i forgot how to do so

hearty cedar
shrewd marten
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Nemona

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Might actually clear a ub

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That’s hype

river prawn
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Already did

tacit hatch
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10% HP left on the triple fly team BarryPogChamp they might be able to do it

gritty vine
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might be able to clear it with anni skyla looking at the clear sheet, but id like to doit with ss ethan one day

tacit hatch
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Nate Fly Gaming real

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time to EX him XDDDD

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if nothing else i'll give Cheren super powered 3

whole field
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Just saw the ludicolo/Greninja/Fini clear

It's wild seeing Max Guard be a useful move here haha

ashen saffron
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Sorry to be late to the party but I cannot beat Nita for the life of me. Is there a consistent strat or video anyone can recommend?

whole field
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chat what the fuck did i just walk into

ashen saffron
whole field
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Nita and Landorus has speedster sync 9, so if she even has +1 speed she does double sync damage. And she resets her debuffs

whole field
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ok i have discovered his hp is pretty small

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i have alt gloria

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i’ll probably have to rely on her

hearty cedar
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God damn it. I need a better team comp ig

snow spruce
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krngZz8t1LQ&t=525s

A bunch of clears including Poison

MIXガチャ天井でグルーシャを取って正解だったぜ…

・究極高難度&高難度バトル非特効縛りの再生リスト
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#ポケマス
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got it

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that wasnt nearly as bad as irida once i figured out what was going on

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without ss mina and alt gloria i’d be screwed though

hearty cedar
north chasm
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are there really no ss ethan teams on the doc?

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was i the first? wtf

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mayb i will do it again and record

boreal abyss
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Done it

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We got Anni Steven recorded

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G into the gs

north chasm
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anni steven BarryPogChamp

boreal abyss
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Hell yeah baby

tight quail
tacit hatch
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nice :O

boreal abyss
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Block eqs with wide guard, sync only after Lana with Cynthia to take another fissure and then Steven needs to crit everything in the middle on sync

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Good defense crush 2 rng too if possible

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Gonna post the video in a sec

north chasm
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oh yeah i was wondering why everyone was using lana

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wide guard

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duh

warm haven
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oooh i found a fun team

tacit hatch
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3% Fly team can totally do it

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just need to cook a little more

snow spruce
rich heron
boreal abyss
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I will very soon

stone scarab
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okay got the clear

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didnt even need wide guard mpr

uncut saffron
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MENACINGLY

north chasm
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cinderace be like 🧍‍♂️

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got a video clear where all 3 survived

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pretty hype

tacit hatch
# tacit hatch *3%* Fly team can totally do it

hm so it basically comes down to cheren's last sync bringing to 50% threshold, then I have essentially one move on everyone to get that 50% down XD (ie one Fly each from Falkner and Nate, one B move from Cheren) + Falkner last fly/aerial ace after sync

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now will fishing for SP3 on Nate get me that last 3-4% HP difference or too much ? 🤔 as opposed to CS2

raven wharf
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The name of this stage is called “Noland’s Plucky Punches”… Well then, where are the “punches” DeNa? I only see Fissure and Earthquake lmfao XD.

Jokes aside, this stage is quite interesting. Puts you way more pressure than Palmer’s and some units in particular are mandatory for this if you don’t plan on pre syncing it!

Aura Cynthia here plays ...

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gotta publish now grids ls ans gears and such then submit

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and bye bye noland, get anni steven'd

warm haven
boreal abyss
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i am so trash at quad queuing after wide guard, i gotta learn the timings haha

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but hey, it's done

raven wharf
snow spruce
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does anyone have a full video link of a 3-rd anni clear? the in-game viewer recording had an error and didnt finish

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@warm haven is the NC Blue-SST Red-NC Silver clear possible for Noland?

warm haven
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nah AcerolaPensive

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the stage counters red too hard

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and the team can't survive the EQ, only red

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on top of that the quick tempo fucks up the second sync

raven wharf
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Gang who's my best dd against noland who can be solo dd

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Also have sssteven

fading walrus
warm haven
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btw we cooking

north chasm
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yeah dont. limit yourself to master fairs lol

raven wharf
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Pfs are kinda bad for ubs tbh

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Lemme check

north chasm
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????

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girl what

fading walrus
rain sorrel
fading walrus
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Pokefairs are great

river prawn
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Tf seasonals can solo carry dps Noland

warm haven
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in two years gen pools will solo UBs

tacit hatch
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bold of you to assume there will still be gen pools in 2 years

river prawn
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Funnily enough I have seen more SLiza and Pal Elesa used than SS Ethan

raven wharf
stable tundra
fading walrus
boreal abyss
rain sorrel
tacit hatch
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pal elesa gaming :O

fading walrus
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Yeah she works very well because of fly + SEUP

raven wharf
fading walrus
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And her ontype nuke is really strong

boreal abyss
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good, submitted everything and links to grids and ls + skill gear detail is shared

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my job is done

tacit hatch
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got a bit tired of trying to make the 3x fly team work so i just cleared with falkner / ncheren / ncrosa quickly, just to tell Noland that I can lolll (i was trying to do triple fly as my first clear)

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oh this one is very fun

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Hugh gaming

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anyway now i can change the music to Unova and that will summon all of Nate's power

uncut drum
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He's just Nate

north chasm
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my video taking 10 years to upload wtf

raven wharf
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How the hell do I do this

whole field
snow spruce
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I thought this would be hard when I first saw the enemy 3 sync counter. but its still kinda too easy ..

north chasm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTerikzfKIM my videos are always potato quality when i first upload them i am so sorry

jumped into this battle for the first time and got fissured that was a jumpscare. once i figured out what was going on it wasn’t terrible though due to noland having less bulk than most UBs.

grid and ls: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=024303081500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgkOERQXHB4fKy8&v1=003401078800&s1=3&l...

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but yeah

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1/5 exr ss ethan

raven wharf
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Nice

raven wharf
north chasm
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i think your ethan is gonna take too long to ramp up

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has to use x sp atk 3 times

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that is slowwwwww

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you need to start damaging asap

raven wharf
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Noone else to boost SpA and get damage guards

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I need 2 minimum

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Only cynthia has that

snow spruce
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Kabu has up to 3 damage guards I think

tacit hatch
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30% MPR: doesn't proc in six battles in a row

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now time to roll for the 9% chance of two MPRs in one battle

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.... which i had last time but i wasn't using the right strategy EusineWhy

raven wharf
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No kabu

snow spruce
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wait are you telling me that Anni Steven is better than SS Ethan ?!
Also is your SS Ethan role unlocked?

north chasm
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mine?

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yeah mine is 1/5 exr

raven wharf
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What my best possible DD

whole field
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Genesect. It's 5/5 and caked!

But not really useful for Noland/Machamp, if that's what you mean.

tacit hatch
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NATE W
triple Fly lessgooo

raven wharf
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That's what I mean

mental jasper
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I feel like SS Ethan can clear with NC Blue and Lana at those move levels

north chasm
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don't limit yourself to limited damage dealers lol

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theres a clear with blue/pidgeot as the main dps

raven wharf
tacit hatch
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he has initial guard

mental jasper
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Initial Guard?

whole field
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Yes, initial guard

raven wharf
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What about post sync fissure

whole field
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He dies eventually

tacit hatch
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clear before that ideally

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or well that yeah

mental jasper
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NC Blue can safely die to the second fissure he’s alive for

raven wharf
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I don't think ethan has that much fire power

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I'll try tho

whole field
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I did Zapdos/Araquanid

north chasm
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nc blue/ss ethan/lana

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probably works

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blue will drop to the 2nd fissure but its fine

mental jasper
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yeah just roll for a single MPR on wide guard and you’re fine

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Ethan would have to survive three syncs but with decent gear it’s very doable

broken crag
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finished at last

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pain in the ass trying to time wide guard and spiky shield

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hopefully it doesnt get any worse

north chasm
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that was not as bad as nita lol

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only because noland doesn't have any gimmicks that increase his bulk though

slate light
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oh do defensive stances block fissure after all then?

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(already beat him just curious)

stone scarab
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Yeah they nullify the attack

broken crag
slate light
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more fissures baby woo yeah

north chasm
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yeah theres a nice budget clear with c cheren and 2 gen pools (shauna and lana)

slate light
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very cool

north chasm
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"budget" with a master fair lol

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but yeah

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only 1

slate light
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budget compared to 2 master fairs and a 3/5+ pokefair at least WEEZing

valid raft
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Anyone done Noland with 1/5 NC Cheren?

slate light
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i did it with 2/5

stone scarab
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there's several clears with 1/5 to my knowledge

river prawn
raven wharf
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Ain't working

uncut drum
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Blue only has one protect. You'd need someone with fly to avoid the constant fissures

mental jasper
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You also didn’t get Wide Guard MPR

raven wharf
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Even with wide guard,how am I gonna survive syncs?

mental jasper
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How good is your skill gear?

raven wharf
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I have a pretty decked out johto set

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Nothing else

mental jasper
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100 HP on pin?

uncut drum
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Lana boosts physical defense so you'd probably be fine

raven wharf
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And 30 on bracelet

north chasm
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noland's syncs are not that threatening yeah

raven wharf
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Should I get vigilance

spiral summit
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No

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Vigilance cant protect you

stone scarab
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his syncs aren't guaranteed crit so yeah, not that big a deal until he gets to like, his 4th

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and yeah, vigilance is useless

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piercing blows moment

mental jasper
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nothing crits until Blue goes down to second fissure

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which Blue should heal right before that happens just to make sure you have as much health as possible

novel fog
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So what's the thing with Noland? is NC Cheren a must?

stone scarab
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not a must

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you just want to prevent him from dealing damage with any of his regular moves

novel fog
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So which supports are considered the best for this UB?

stone scarab
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fissure is a one shot, +10 PMUN Earthquake will obliterate basically anyone

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Lana is one people are getting a lot of use from

novel fog
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SS Mina can only protect from one move

mental jasper
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Lana probably the most important one to have bc Wide Guard

novel fog
stone scarab
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yeah

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nullify the earthquakes

uncut drum
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And she has MPR 5

novel fog
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And for the fissure?

uncut drum
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60% to get another use

stone scarab
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damage guards

uncut drum
stone scarab
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or partial invulnerability

true galleon
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the endurance thing sucks so much LarryDead

mental jasper
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Wide Guard every earthquake, someone like Falkner for the Fissures

novel fog
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So 2 supports?

stone scarab
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i used Ash / SST / Lana

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ash was the "tank"

uncut drum
mental jasper
warm haven
uncut drum
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Unless you have broken pairs like Ash, SST Red or NC Red

stone scarab
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and then Not Gonna Lose

north chasm
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yeah i used ss mina, alt gloria, and ss ethan

lunar sedge
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How many wide guards MPR do you need for this UB?

north chasm
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gloria was the main tank

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which again

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sounds goofy

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but you gotta have something to avoid fissure

stone scarab
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i didnt get any

lunar sedge
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Like rough estimation

true galleon
stone scarab
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depends on the team though

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average team i think 1 MPR will probably suffice

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since after his 4th sync i think living is optimistic

novel fog
uncut drum
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No. Cheren is best here

mental jasper
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NC Blue/Lana/NC Cheren needs a single MPR to be comfortable, Lana dies to the third Fissure anyways unless Cheren is supposed to tank and lose his PMUN stacks to dodge one

uncut drum
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This battle was basically made for NC Cheren. On type, flys etc.

true galleon
novel fog
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No anni Skyla?

uncut drum
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I used Nate and cleared with zero issues

north chasm
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if ur looking for 1/5 ss ethan clear

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enjoy

lunar sedge
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I do have anni Skyla which I'm sure can overkill Noland after the endures but she's 1/5

north chasm
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exr but

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yeah

mental jasper
novel fog
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Ah that sucks

uncut drum
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Anni Skyla is good here though

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She has strike EX R

novel fog
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So does Cheren

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And he is stronger

mental jasper
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Cheren honestly doesn’t even need EX for this

uncut drum
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I didn't say better, but she works

true galleon
novel fog
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My OG Falkner is 2/5 WEEZing

uncut drum
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Try to sync only with Falkner with synchro healing

uncut drum
true galleon
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2/5 should be fine

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he has 3 uses of fly at base

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good enough with nc cheren

north chasm
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i didnt even sync w a support in my clear

shrewd marten
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So how fun

north chasm
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found ss ethan zone setting sync move important

shrewd marten
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Is nolan

north chasm
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noland is actually interesting

novel fog
mental jasper
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mechanically interesting, not complex if you have a good damage dealer to counter him

inner heath
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shauna is safer than falker if you have her

north chasm
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not as restrictive as nita thank god

uncut drum
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Not horrible

novel fog
stone scarab
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yeah this is nowhere near as bad as nita

uncut drum
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As long as you counter his gimmicks

north chasm
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jumping in for the first time and noland's first move being fissure was a jumpscare for sure lmao

stone scarab
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i still think this is worse than like, Darach

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maybe Thorton

novel fog
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Darach is easy wdym

true galleon
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def worse than thorton tbh

novel fog
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It's that bad?

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Have anyone tried to off type?

stone scarab
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i think it's like, in the middle in terms of UB difficulty

north chasm
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you can offtype

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rats and thunder bird can clear

mental jasper
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I’d rather clear Norman than Lucy for example because Lucy’s fight just feels very traditional
then again I just haven’t done Lucy out of procrastination so what can I say

north chasm
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as always

novel fog
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Oh yeah but besides rats

uncut drum
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Fairy team too

true galleon
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ice bird clears

stone scarab
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not as easy as Lucy / Darach, not as hard as Nita / Leon / Anabel

true galleon
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ive seen a poison and ghost team clear

north chasm
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its kinda comparable to palmer

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in that it doesnt have any defensive passives

true galleon
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damage race

stone scarab
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palmer is the easiest comparison

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but its still a very different fight

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in that in Palmer's case his sync is where you die, while Noland's sync is giving you breathing room almost

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well, omen of death in palmer's case

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MIXガチャ天井でグルーシャを取って正解だったぜ…
暑い部屋でぶっ通し撮影してたらマチリラが音ズレカクカクになってしまった

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triple support BarryPogChamp

tacit hatch
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i like that this fight is pretty short, it makes it easy to experiment with different strategies without slogging through a long battle where a late lost MPR can be the end of it all

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similarly to Palmer in that regard yeah

stone scarab
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yeah that's something i definitely appreciate about those two fights

tacit hatch
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oh wow triple support gaming

north chasm
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wait this is not triple support

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i got clickbaited

stone scarab
tacit hatch
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oh it's just for explanation purposes XD

north chasm
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those are just the strongest support options due to having damage nullification moves

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i guess

tacit hatch
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Sc Irida + Summer Gardenia + Anabel :O

true galleon
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gonna invest in anabel ig LarryDead

shrewd marten
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It’s like

true galleon
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mine is stuck at 1/5

shrewd marten
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Put anti toxin

raven wharf
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IF NOONE GOT MY BACK,I KNOW ETHAN GOT MY BACK

shrewd marten
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That’s basically it

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You don’t think or do anything differently

north chasm
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ay nice

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1% clutch

shrewd marten
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Like yeah you reduce speed

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But it’s not like nita

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You don’t have to be particularly good at speed debuffs

true galleon
shrewd marten
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So it ends up being a very generic fight

raven wharf
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Candying ethan to 4/5 and having a cracked set of johto gear really came in clutch

shrewd marten
tacit hatch
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epic ethan moment

shrewd marten
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Or very cringe

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Like

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Full heal mp refresh cringe

true galleon
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nc leaf

shrewd marten
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Or roll for healing hands 4 every turn

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That’s piercing blows

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Wtf do you think it does

tacit hatch
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that would not be fun 💀

true galleon
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i forgor

shrewd marten
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You literally named it bro

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💀

true galleon
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im too tires

tacit hatch
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anyway just uploaded and submitted this
triple Fly team go FalknerSuprised NatePumped CherenEmbarrassed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-TGPBOJtQ0

Who needs Wide Guard / Damage Guard when you can Fly?

[Falkner 3/5 EXR, Nate 5/5 EX, NC Cheren 3/5 EXR]

There are certainly much easier ways to clear this UB, but the fact that Nate gaming is viable is hilarious. Uses Head Start on Falkner, and Super Powered 3 on NC Cheren and Nate. You may be able to get away with CS2 instead; Nate's last Fly...

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You think it would affect anti toxin but not team sun immune thats wild

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But yeah

true galleon
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its 1 am and ive been banging my head against noland

tacit hatch
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first clear with Nate submitted on the doc :O

shrewd marten
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Bad idea if they spam poison

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And boy howdy Lucy spams poison

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Piercing blows status condition could work if it’s like

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Certain interval

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Like post sync

tacit hatch
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nate was clearly the MVP of that fight

shrewd marten
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ESPECIALLY Nate

tacit hatch
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that's why i put him in the middle

shrewd marten
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Sir

tacit hatch
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also he got the final blow lol

raven wharf
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Since I beat Noland,that means I can afford one more multi in either cheren or Bianca before they leave

shrewd marten
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Why are the voices so loud

tacit hatch
true galleon
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lower the hostile environment so its rng for sludge wave TabithaHehe

snow spruce
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Surprised I was the first to use this team.
This was actually so easy, you casually nullify 3-4 Fissures and several EQs. All while doing good damage, having zone and debuffing Atk and SpDef
god bless Lana and Strike role for Techs

raven wharf
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I feel like its bait

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I like Bianca as a character so her phasing out fast won't affect me

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Cheren sucked in bw1 and I'm early into bw2 so I don't like his character so he would be purely for meta

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Which would get overshadowed by some random shit at anni

tacit hatch
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fair enough 👍 i don't pull for meta either

lunar sedge
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Ethan probably just need vigilance HilbertHmm

tacit hatch
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haha all the two-turn invulnerable state moves coming out of the woodwork

shrewd marten
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Bianca is very solid

lunar sedge
snow spruce
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I actually now think they will do another Fissure UB for ghost-weak lmao
Since a bunch of ghost pairs have invulnerable moves (Morty, SSRC, Fall 2023 Phoebe, Acerola Banette, Acerola Fall 2020)

tacit hatch
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Paulo / NC Silver core winning

north chasm
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glad to see grusha getting some use in these clears

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he was written off as mid for a while lol

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he still got scammed of field exr... why does rika get it and he doesnt...

warm haven
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i think he's underrated if anything

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he's way better with zone than rika, and more useful overal

boreal abyss
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Seeing many interesting takes on this stage, that's great to see

hearty cedar
boreal abyss
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Anniversary "el futbol" Steven

hearty cedar
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Anni N, anni steven looking at anni lillie be like

boreal abyss
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Hopefully she can get her chance at a ghost stage cuz like this it's not even fun for her lmao

hearty cedar
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Poor lillie, we used to troll by saying "it's lillie, of course she's gonna get alts" and now she got none in the last 2yrs

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Lodge doesnt count

boreal abyss
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That's to remember how mad community was at her for getting so many units

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Good days

hearty cedar
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Time to get mad at red alts then

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How many ubs that this make for anni steven?

boreal abyss
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Boh he won't do Thorton, Leon and Palmer iirc

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The rest is all cleared

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I am gonna use him mainly where he makes sense to be used, not gonna force it too much

onyx cedar
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another clear for F Roxanne

boreal abyss
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That's awesome

river prawn
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Ooh nice

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Was thinking she could be good with all the stat buffs

boreal abyss
hearty cedar
whole field
hearty cedar
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Maybe I should try to clear this ub so anni N can have 10 clears. Any recommendations?

boreal abyss
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I won't force on Palmer or Leon cuz it's no sense to use him there, and Thorton he is ice weak so

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Eh tough but it can be done maybe? With N I mean

hearty cedar
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If anni steven gets supp ex role then he could be used against palmer

boreal abyss
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That's why I'll wait for that stage in case

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For now it doesn't make any sense

hearty cedar
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If anni N gets strike ex then he should be able to beat noland

boreal abyss
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Dang tech over tech

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Jokes aside I guess so, I see everyone going for very fun strats on this one so

hearty cedar
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My core is ash + lana but its not enough to survive when I'm using nc.nate

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29% health left on noland

river prawn
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You don't want Cheren in that clear?

hearty cedar
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Already done

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I defeated every ub except nita with nc.nate so I'm just making preparations

river prawn
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So you have already done it on Noland

hearty cedar
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Ye, with 3 teams

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All close to each other anyway

river prawn
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Why do the ingame replays focus so much on mf clears

hearty cedar
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They replaced my clear with someone else's that used the exact same team and same strats HildaCry he just positioned his units differently

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And for some reason, it never records my nc.nate's runs

warm haven
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because dena hates nate CynthiaSmug

hearty cedar
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They really do HildaCry

stone scarab
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Anabel, Darach, Argenta, Lucy, Nita, Noland he clears
Thorton, Palmer, Leon he doesnt

river prawn
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When will the inevitable hail UB come

boreal abyss
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Why did i count 11 LMFAO

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Thank you mex

river prawn
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Brandon Regice weak to steel

boreal abyss
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My mind is melting here

opaque dagger
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Could nc Marnie tank for noland?
Protect+3 endures with 1 tm mpr + endure again
Just idk how she could tank sync

river prawn
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Endures don't work

boreal abyss
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Endures get rekt by piercing blows

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Sadly

stone scarab
opaque dagger
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Forgot

stone scarab
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Yeah its unfortunate

kind wasp
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What? A clear I have the units for? LucasFLOOSHED ill try it later but I alr have 3/5 exr skyla

boreal abyss
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That was funny tho, 11, wtf is wrong with me

stone scarab
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Anni Steven clears Ingo and Emmet UBs no sweat it seems

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I'm proud of him

boreal abyss
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Ez

river prawn
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Greta UB with Shedinja

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Only passive damage gets through

warm haven
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thats DC

stone scarab
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Dark Weak Shedinja real?

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I imagine that's the type they'd go with for that anyway

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The (other) gimmick is that it has 100k HP but endures every 10k

stoic lake
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1 health, endures every 1 health

warm haven
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pls no more endures i beg

stone scarab
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Me when the poison damage

warm haven
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make another palmer

stone scarab
river prawn
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Seriously with how gimmicky Noland is I could see more of this kind of UBs emerging

warm haven
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anni units will have UB Endure ignore 9

opaque dagger
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Survive 4 sync cycles until the opponent explodes itself

stone scarab
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Honestly on these squishier fights like Lucy and Noland I don't mind the endures too much

warm haven
river prawn
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You also have to survive the explosion

stone scarab
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When its like, Nita

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No

eternal yarrow
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Tried Piers instead of Shauna. Works well

stone scarab
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Stop it

tacit hatch
stone scarab
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Yeah, considering I'm imagining a dark weak UB being made for NC Marnie that is genuinely the type of gimmick id think they'd go for

tacit hatch
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also multistrike pair gaming perhaps

opaque dagger
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You wouldn't need to use damage dealers to ko the opponent if the opponent knocks itself out

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So you could make a purely defensive team with three supports

tacit hatch
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so like the opposite meta from the damage challenge rn

hearty cedar
warm haven
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prob with flinch/sleep requeriments

tacit hatch
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palmer is more made for Rei being sprint though, since he has unflappable

stone scarab
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Marnie (and dark types as a whole) doesn't have anywhere near that level of accel

hearty cedar
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Dear ss mina users, mind using her with sstr and nc.nate against noland?

warm haven
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dark is also good with debuffs so maybe fluid fortification

stone scarab
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Nah idts

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That just caters to Cerena meta again and we already have that once

river prawn
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Would love something where SC Zinnia would shine

hearty cedar
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Dark could go physical and special route or the interference route or both combined

severe cloud
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Ngl, Gloria alt 2 is a godsend for this UB

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Bounce gaming is real

earnest panther
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I'm kind of shocked how diverse these clears are

tacit hatch
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it's impressive for sure! while there's still a core around certain pairs (NC Cheren, Lana etc.) for "easy" clears, it's generally looking pretty varied

snow spruce
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733

All clears added now, until next UB.
Almost all the teams made it on Noland, except one (I'm still shocked that Fairy did it and facetanked EQ)

shrewd marten
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Only masterfairs

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It’s only recently they give cool Rolex

hearty cedar
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Wow tosakin already did a nc.nate run

north chasm
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ITS VICTOR INNIT

hearty cedar
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Only nita is left

shrewd marten
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To be fair

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Nita is like

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Obnoxious

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You either have insane speed debuff or u get carried by 2 other unit

hearty cedar
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Ye that's the problem

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It took nc.red to beat her with a bit of a struggle so I'm honestly at loss

shrewd marten
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Need to wait for a better counter than irida deadass

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Omnidebuffer that changes weather at will more than 2 times

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Like it’s so insane that I propose such a Thing

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But that the only way nita clears begin to blow up

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Otherwise it’s irida cheren and the odd debuffer with heavy weather support

hearty cedar
shrewd marten
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She has morty so it’s usually not a problem

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The problem is one of the few stats she doesn’t reduce is speed

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Which means she cannot carry the crap that is nita

hearty cedar
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A ub that can be defeated by ss N but not by nc.nate
-Nita

shrewd marten
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Truuuuuuu

hearty cedar
hearty cedar
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Yooooo

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That's awesome

warm haven
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i knew cheren would destroy this ub

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and grusha stonks keep rising GladionSip

hearty cedar
shrewd marten
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Grusha was always underrated cuz irida was always enough ice zone and ncblue/ssac/blah would do

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But now his interesting talents are here to shine

hearty cedar
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I wanted grusha for my ss N but couldn't pull him, glad he's getting spotlight

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Can we all take a moment to appreciate how awesome the poison team is? Not even a single masterfair and yet they got every ub covered

uncut drum
solar stirrup
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any nc cheren teams?

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that can clear noland

spiral summit
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A lot of NC Cheren team actually

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Even 1/5 NC Cheren with 2 spotlight

solar stirrup
spiral summit
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Lana and Shauna

fair sorrel
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Wait a 1/5 NC Cheren clear? I should find that clear so can replicate it.

spiral summit
solar stirrup
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how many times does noland fissure pre sync and post sync?

river prawn
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Turn 1, then after 2nd sync but more like after each even numbered sync

solar stirrup
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we think that oleana (1/5) nc cheren (3/5 exr) and nc blue (1/5) might work?

river prawn
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It should

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Even tho Oleana is a bit of a weird choice

low coral
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This batttle is made to promote Cheren, so there's lots of options to work, even at 1/5

onyx cedar
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now with P Elesa

warm haven
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no cheren no grusha clear

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DGN for everyone

low coral
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Anabel I also would say is as good as Grusha, if not better

solar stirrup
low coral
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Those debuffs ain't gonna do anything

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You're taking those crit Earthquake

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To make them relevant, you need crit shield

warm haven
solar stirrup
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with nc cheren

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cause i got no clue

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maybe nc leaf or 1/5 ss morty but idk

spiral summit
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You can look the sheet

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Like Nc Cheren can work with many pairs

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You can test it yourself

solar stirrup
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can nc cheren tank

spiral summit
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Yes

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If you want

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And his teammates cant tank fissure

snow spruce
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Atk debuffs are really not THAT important IMO. Ice team with Cynthia/Chase dont have them at all and they ace every UB

if its "normal" move damage then you can just tank/heal it without debuffs
if its "uber" damage like Palmers max move or +10 PMUN EQ then debuffs wont save you at all. It would require team-wide dmg guards or Crit shield or Reflect + Crit shield etc.

jade grotto
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With the proper units is quite easy as long as I get mpr5 for wide guard

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Ended up syncing with skyla, cuz it was enough to get rid of the sides and the endure made the extra damage quite pointless

low coral
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But not Atk, yeah

warm haven
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I prefer atk debuff over defense buffs, +6 defenses won't save you from +4 darach

warm haven
primal leaf
opaque dagger
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I think he is tanking with cheren

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Fly dodge