#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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Ah well, not like there won't be a chance to get deluxe cookies later in the month
Thanks!
Cake bad units so you can use them in earlier rounds thus saving your good ones for the Ultimate Battles in Area 10

I won’t lie I’ve been tempted to cake Lenora just so she gets more bulk
I will never cake her simply because I don't use her at all
Is N usable against EB Hilbert especially with Piercing Blows?
Piercing Blows doesn't ignore the stat passives
Like the No Negative Status Change: Def. & Sp. Def. x3
Really, I didn't know.
Yeah, it doesnt work because its not a passive that reduces anything, its a raw stat increase
Nope
If you have piercing blows it should work against hilbert in particular
My buddy move never one shot 
Skill gear difference ig
Could be. Mine was probably automize, I will check on that. Thanks Gakon
Another option could be running cs2 blue
With DPS multipliers to guarantee extra added damage
If you're not doing it already
Has anyone tried Cheren against Leon yet? 
I think he might clear all UBs but not with the same team
why against leon of all people
he doesnt counter any gimmicks so hell probably need to be carried
Because Leon is someone Cheren hasn't beaten yet
Idt people did Palmer with Cheren either
Although Palmer should work with Cheren + Bianca
o cheren already smacked everyone else?
cheren would need someone who either carried a crapton of eterrain to counter the gimmick(but using sstr to carry is a bit negh) or someone whos like ncleaf(sun immune)
do people think NC Rosa 1/5 + NC Cheren 3/5 + NC Bianca 1/5 can do Palmer
was testing it out and they can take down sides + get palmer to about 50% HP but seems kind of far off
adrenaline on Rosa
no other real CDR (Bianca's TM ends up used on first cycle), turn denied once on right
though i can attest Bianca's damage reduction is pretty insane
Genuinely think not, Bianca wants 3/5 in all likelyness
Maybe skyla cheren and nc blue on leon? Just get insanely lucky with fly wish mpr
Are you running Status Immunity on everyone?
Two questions about Leon UB
• Do the allies always hit sleep with the attacks?
• Does Leon heal status conditions after his sync?
when does he heal it? i hit paralysis with blue but then sometime after his sync it was gone
i remember he heals whne endure
and i think postsync
just when his allies act or something
or is it when he uses non attack
@low coral ub check
alrighty, thanks. i'll make sure to keep up the discharge spam as soon as that happens
and confusion doesn't count as a status condition for leon, right? isn't it counted as interruption
I’m trying to think of partners for cheren on Leon. You could add sst red and nc blue but it’s basically guaranteed with those two.
You’d have to run status immunity blue and wide awake at least on other two
... I recenyly cleared with triple masterfair
fighting masterfair* SSA Cynthia, NC Bianca, NC Hop
these extreme battles are really not possible without the power creep, is it?
alright trying out Thorton with 3/5 NC Bianca and Cheren
i tried both 1/5 NC Rosa and 3/5 NC Blue
this is how far i got with Blue
should cheren be taking most of the syncs after Blue at the beginning ? or should I switch to Bianca sync (and grid her for it) past 60%
1/5 NC Rosa team doesn't seem to have enough survivability since no defence buffs and limited potions
also didn't get to use Fly, this would probably be better to dodge a couple Blizzards at the end and do chunk damage
also Blue was running mind games 2, maybe switch to Ice Guard ?
NCBlue should definitely be running a defensive LS
They're really really hard to f2p clear but not too hard if you've been playing for a year or so, or scouted coincidentally recent good and fitting pairs that aren't the featured ones
i've been playing since day one, basically but i'm stupid
i was using a team for flying, 3x skyla, tornadus, swanna, unfezant
i was using a build from someone who cleared it and for me it ain't working
when i look at how that person did it, the tornadus managed to confuse, mine just refuses
so it's like reroll hell
Well yeah that can happen
RNG is a cruel mistress
Trust me sometimes stuff just won't work
And all you can do is hit retry until it does
do you have NC Blue?
i had one try where it almost worked but sadly, died
now, i managed to clear stage 1 with red pika, ash pika and blue zapdos, i'm not sure if i can do that a second time 😂
Sometimes it feels like that way, every time there's a new masterfair it's like a benchmark for powercreep, limited banners who release now are better than 1 year ago on average, though not all of them
it's just struggling with the new stages every time
i don't have enough rebuff units myself, nor do i know if it applies differently
does rebuff happen separately from when it says it does?
What do you mean by the last line?
it should happen as soon as u hit the move that inflicts rebuff but uh idk
if rebuff just triggers on normal moves or if it needs to specifically stated if the move does rebuff
some moves do that other times its passives
Yes
tar shot lowers fire type rebuff bc thats its effect, but techno blast from ss hilbert lowers fire type rebuff because of his passive (and only on fire type weak opponents)
NC Blue, Elesa and Skyla is a confirmed working comp, the pins probably have a video of it
Sorry I can't find it there
There's only 3 teams for Hilbert
Not an accessible team... but it serves a purpose for those who have Blue (Champion)... Him having EX Role is not needed, sides get one shot by Elesa anyway... these are the pointers:
- Blue's job is mainly to reduce the Rebuff of the center. Reset if necessary to give all enemies the Electric Rebuff from Discharge... After that, his other job i...
Thank you 
damn, so rebuff needs to be mentioned to be used
what a broken mechanic
so i wonder if i can use NC Bianca to beat leon
Doubt it without involving units who already break the fight
There's alternatives, but with rebuff becoming more and more common (but still mostly a limited priority kit tool) it has become the best gimmick to build hard stages around for DeNa
well, ofc, it means they can milk the players 🤷♂️
i've tried and failed, it's just too stupid hard for me and i'm not smart enough to understand all the gimmicks
It's just 300 gems anyway
300 more than you had before
Idk what to say other than "it's normal in a gacha to use stages to induce FOMO, but at least here there's f2p friendly options, and in the end it's a single's worth only "
やはりポケマスは特殊の方がキャラの層が厚いので特防3倍+回避ステージは難しい。
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実装時期からしてリラ+マチエールはデザイナーズコンボだと思われるのでしっかり公式の想定通りの動きができたんじゃないかと思う。
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anabel propaganda

Seems like you can’t beat Leon ult without status immunity
You can, you just need electric terrain
Oof
So yeah that’s why I’ve been avoiding the ultimate battles. Too heavily reliant on current meta, and my gacha luck is pretty much nonexistent.
More than current meta
It's just that they require 2/3 highest tier units
Which isn't something all players have
Some top tier units put in work in every UB, some just 2-3
Well those are really good at doing UBs, but they need suited third units
NC red needs irida, NC leaf needs a third fire high tier
Or ssmorty
I have SSMorty actually
Any good F2p/gen pool that can target all paralyze or otherwise negates Siebold healthy advantage?
BP surge/clemont can help and para well while also doing extra buffing
Lodge volkner has good AoE para odds and nukes pretty hard
❤️ ooo, sweet, will look into these options as support for my ss gladion
Colress with go viral 9 is what youre looking for
Throw a physical electric type and your set
He was asking about siebold cs stage
oof, it does have it, sadly don't have 3/5 of colress, ty
Remind me again, when did SST Red rerun?
Trying to gauge when NC Blue is coming back
End of January of this year
Shoot, i messed up the end date with the starting date
its the beginning of January
Okay why are these Black and White battles so tough
Even part 1 is like, I will not take damage
ig no rebuff? 
Yeah, and very few Unova units who set other conditions.
you must lower a rebuff at least
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Gameplay : Simply put a Type Rebuff but Hilbert's Evasion were quite Annoying but still Beat him in the end.
Sync Pair(s) :
👑 Rosa (Champion) & Meloetta
🔥 Sygna Suit Hilda & Victini
🌟 N (Anniversary 21) & Reshiram
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Has anyone discovered the secret to hilbert
You mean for the ebe?
Physical dmg dealers + middle needs a rebuff
Thats bianca's featured ebe right?
No I don’t care about that I care about a f2p run
Sync Grids, Lucky Skills, EX Roles available at the end of video and on request on discord: https://discord.gg/JUMNhQBM7U
Black-and-White Extreme Battle Event
vs Hilbert https://youtu.be/JlM6Z5iE7Wk
vs Hilda https://youtu.be/2PLZ0RrhJk4
Battle Rally
Battle Rally Tips (Maximize Points & Preparation) https://youtu.be/3sIHqa8j9uI
1st attempt 7600...
That's the most f2p I've seen
If you have any 4th anni units use them with EX Elesa and EX Skyla
@shrewd marten
No I did it already
I’m trying to crack the f2p code
But N is an excellent choice
The issue is you need aoe trap restrain or rebuff
preferably restrain or rebuff
the only one I'm aware of is gordie
Am I able to clear any of the extreme battles with any of my 150 sync pairs
do you mean Ultimate Battles?
Yes that’s what I mean
or are you having trouble with the current Event battles for Ball Guy, and Neo Champions
You should start off by trying Darach & Lucy, since they're easier.
Lucy requires speed debuffing and poison immunity / curing. Which can achieved with Antitoxin lucky skill.
Darach is mainly about maintaining a field effect, either weather terrain or zone at all times.
I think I have Geeta high enough with that
My Ground team has sun and ground zone at the same time
geeta by herself isn't enough poison zone.
I have Fall Iris
Other issue becomes defensive buffs and offensive debuffs.
I can switch out Acerola for Aura Cynthia
I haven't seen a Geeta Fall Iris clear on Darach, it's lacking some oomph there.
No I’m a F2P
I might actually do Lucy since I have a lot of good Antitoxin sync pairs
there are various clears on lucy
namely with Courtney for f2p
somehow Bertha can tank this
there is an f2p Argenta clear
After the Selene clear I thought about how I could get rid of SS Acerola to create effectively an invested F2P clear and got the idea to stall with poison. This clear follows concepts from both the Adaman and Selene clear and just like them the RNG isn't that bad but there's almost 0 room for error. For this clear to succeed you need:
- to avoi...
I have this team with full Antitoxin on every sync pair
lacking speed debuffs other than geeta's random one
Courtney is a good option since she's on type and does the debuffing
isnt geeta a bit trickier cuz she boosts the enemy too
It's not too bad, there's only sludge wave once in a while. But you do want to manage the zone so it doesn't aline with sync.
There's a clear with Lana + Janine and geeta on this stage
he tanks a sync with zone up too
nc rosa, sc steven, rei should be able to do Palmer, probably have to cake rosa and rei tho
and adaman + sslyra + ssacerola/ssmorty for argenta, this one should be easy
Doesn't Geeta get antitoxin at 2/5 on grid anyway
It's nothing scary, as only sludge wave and sync are boosted
and the one poison jab from the nidoking
Any help on teams to pick for clearing challenge champion Cheren and Bianca part 2? Thanks
Sadly your roster is not good enough to clear both events
No problem, just wanted to give it a try, Thanks

Do you mean the EB or the special challenge?
The special battle event
Can someone pls give me a team that could beat Hilbert and Hilda Pt. 2????
Well, for starters, you have NC Rosa, who can immediately counter the gimmick of needing negative status change to them. As for the other gimmicks, Hilda requires you debuff her speed and need to use special damage dealers while Hilbert will increase his evasion and wants physical damage
So for Hilbert I should bring Diancie Hilda and NC Rosa
Then for Hilda I’ll bring Alder and NC Rosa
SS Mina being friends with not just poison comp but flying comp too I see
I mean mina is just broken in UB in general
Skyla also so happens to fix w/e issues she has
People need to stop shit talking the girl
This skyla is anni right?
Mina may be the best UB support, partially because the rain UB is the easiest and the cheat code for palmer
and she doesnt have role ex yet
Best is Blue for sure, but Mina covers a gimmick that Blue doesn't for full clears
I'm guessing other than the zone Skyla helps with the additional speed and bit more sustain with mini potions?
She covers gauge debuffs and healing but it becomes a bit of a double supp scenario
Afaik his clears also run mind games?
The Cheren runs MG2?
No, skyla does
So Blue is often hard stopped by Anabel for full clears, even though his matchup vs Anabel is actually very good
Eventually we'll get an anti-mina stage or something
Maybe a strong fairy boss or just wtz block
That'd be interesting
No wtz UB gimmick
An aggressive Phys stage could actually make her suffer
No wtz UB will be interesting
But no UB has that yet iirc
Idt that stops her
No WTZ is probably the main way to actually be anti-Mina, often "anti-X" stages can be played around
Unless they go very extreme on it, like Anabel
But i expect a no WTZ UB too
They're all mixed lenient special or with weak Phys AoE
It will stop SST Red for sure
No wtz

anni steven UB 
Means mina's ability to buff defenses disappears outright
You lose most of her stuff
So yes it would really cripple her lol
Maybe you can clear with her, but it would essentially be a duo clear + Mina
She loses her Damage Reduction, all of her defensive buffs, she recovers less from Draining Kiss due to having less SpA, her B Move heals less
Doesn't her b move require wtz anyway
She would be useless if the WTZ can't be activated at all, but she can kinda work the WTZ is removed instead of blocked
Oh yeah, so not even just the extra heal
ah yeah
nita is very aggresive, mina will need help for that
skyla is so awesome
Idt Mina specifically will struggle
But quite a few comps might
Only annoying part about Nita for Mina is probably that she's more physically focused
But Ground is quite an annoying type to deal with, particularly for Electric and Poison comps
Poison at least got Oleana, so there's a chance
The problem i see is that you need more than 2 rain dances
Each endure sets sandstorm and the sides have the move too
no but she has soothing sand, and the sides have sandy pep rally, on top of pep rally, so you have to debuff -2 speed per turn
Can someone help me build a team for the Hilda and Hilbert Extreme Battles
you can try NC Rosa, Elesa and Skyla for Hilda
Which Skyla? The Lodge, Story, or Anni?
OG
Thank god cuz I don’t have anni/lodge
no reason to suggest them if you don't them
it's fine, she is not the main tank
Phew but the extra sync buff would be nice
What should I use for her Lucky Skill?
Vigilance
Yeah so for some reason Rosa kinda just
Did the flying squad beat Leon?
Rosa shouldn’t die any faster than skyla
And u have potion
I mean yeah but she takes so much more dmg for no reason
Mb, i got these names confused
the team above is meant for Hilbert
For Hilda team replace Skyla with Ghetsis, and focus on debuffing their speed. No guarantee on success tho
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
for Nita UB
Did they get also Leon?
Nice, considering there’s only 1 rebuff in the team
I’m more impressed because no paralysis
SS Mina is absolutely the best support in UBs, no question.
Defog?
quick glance at Nita's kit, seems like it'll be important to keep her Speed un-raised and to set alternative Weather? Anything else?
She seems to reset debuffs after a sync move, which may be somewhat annoying for pairs that depend on debuffs for their sync nuke multiplier, or pairs that have debuffs locked behind a limited use B Move
If I understood it correctly, it seems like the move she uses pre 2nd sync is her TM rather than the Crit boosts that most UBs have
oh she resets her debuffs? that's painful. i was going to say Irida seems perfect for her, but IRida can only use her B-move once (I guess with Hail and Speed down, Irida is still great against her)
at least it doesn't look like she can get rid of rebuff, so NC Red + Irida looks like it'll still be doable. (I mean, I'm guessing they're the best offensive duo against Nita)
3/5 Irida doesn’t mind that much anyway with Mind Games
Wow, if you dont mind, can I ask you for some vids on that so I can binge?
the fight is clearly tuned for her
Irida only sets weather 3 times
Devs might be banking on nc.red's or summer steven's hail on sync
Or hippo will not use sand until later in the game
Morty will be awesome
this is ridiculous lmfao
the endurance
to actually do this
is insane
hippo i imagine can be dancing ice beamed or at the very least will be done post sync
Then 3 weather setups might be enough
Mina unfortunately only has two so I'm worried about that cheren team, hope they clear super fast
Not possible
It’s 80 50 endure
Unless Nita can be bruteforced 20% hp very easily
It will be fucked
its looking like Nita will be quite a bit harder or at least more annoying than Leon
She will be easier than Leon as long as you have a good way to change weather and debuff speed
yeah but what units actually compress these things
and cohesively
you have Leaf I suppose, but she also cleanses
how many times does Nita setup sand?
the UB doc doesn't open for me for unknown reason
thrice, I think
if she setup sand on entry 3/5 Irida might be needed
iirc she setup sand per endure
Ss morty + nc.cheren + respectable 3rd unit should be able to clear nita easily
She doesn't cleanse rebuffs right?
you dont need to have both in one unit tho
you don't but well, few comps actually have that in check fwiw
mina will struggle without an external source to cover sand unless you brute through it so that two uses is enough, typically early
Nita will be easy for Irida Ice and for sun comps with NC Leaf and multiple sun sources.
Maybe Water /w rain is fine too if you get good Speed debuffs rng on NC Serena
Everyone else will struggle IMO, even if they manage to do it - it will be close, probably with 2 deaths
oh right, she doesnt .. I was thinking of Oleana (who is weak to Ground btw)
Every good Poison is Ground-weak
enter kekwalk barry
Hmm real talk how about V Lyra
Team Rain Coat is handy for sure crit
Man I remember struggling so much with this BC when it first released, even with an urshifu
I've seen people solo sslyra 5k points
This is nothing
Variety Lyra I believe will be good all around
Team Rain Coat will probably be niche
As I think Nita will only use it before 2nd sync
yeah she will be great for sure
Dojo Gloria should be good here too
Especially in a core with Dahlia
It doesn't need to be Mina, but Mina is good, yes
I would go with either her, Blue, or Cynthia
i can see the reason NC Rosa is not mentioned
Rosa still works, too
Healing shouldn't be too much of a problem
As Lyra will keep using Synchro Healing and Dahlia has Refreshing Rain
Oof, Dahlia is broken enough for this UB, huh? I didn't check her skill until now. (Not to mention I don't have it)..
Well, Dahlia herself isn't particularly great vs this UB
But she's a very good individual unit and she has amazing synergy with rain units
And quite a few rain units do have a good matchup here
For Lyra, in particular, she has Sp. Def drops multipliers, which Dahlia is good at doing, and she has infinite rain, although only on sync and without extension, making her sync outside of Rain - Dahlia has rain extension and one rain on-demand via her Max Move to let the rain be up even early on
Lyra also drops Speed, which the stage needs
Yeah, I do know her max move could set rain. Well that's a quite good, but yeah, UB is something different. There's fast paced, there's long run. I just think Dahlia is somehow in-between. Gotta make sure the turn rotation is under control..
Dahlia is always going to be good regardless because her individual kit is strong
Also, is Nita can be froze? I don't check the datamine yet
We are not sure
There is a chance
But don't get your hopes up considering the standard for UBs
Yeah, for the exact, after Darach
They love struggling us with 'fixed Resilience' haha.
If the fight is centered around Irida, then I doubt Nita can be frozen
Lyra is less annoying because it’s 100% consistent, you just need to hit the right thing
That clear has refreshes and flinch timings that are needed
UBs aren't centered arround specific units
They are
Thorton is ncleaf and ssmorty(?) or sshilda
Etc
Darach is diantha and probably Paulo(idr if silver existed yet)
Argenta is asserola and adaman
They have it easier because they're ontype. But you could argue that May (Rain & debuffs) counters Anabel better than Cerena (Only debuffs)
Anabel: Champion Serena/SS Kris
Thorton: NC Leaf
Darach: SS Diantha/NC Silver
Argenta: SS Acerola and Adaman
Palmer: Rei
Lucy: Fall Roxanne/SC Adaman
Leon: NC Blue and SST Red
That is so cap

May debuffs can’t keep up at all
True.
What about Unflappable?
If she doesn't have antifreeze and that, looks like NC Red and Silver could lock her + early trigger Resilience.. If it's so...
One per turn sometimes
But yeah I doubt
Ok but Cerena can't beat anabel without external help with the weather
Okay and?
You can slap may next to her and boom
You cannot slap anything next to may and boom
that's why SS Kris is also included there
It’s not like the ub has to be soloable by the unit to be made for it
How can you say an UB is centered around a specific unit when you need more that one unit to counter it
It’s centered around 2 units
And by the way an easy example is thorton
You only need ncleaf
It can be centered around 1 or more units
Rei alone can beat Palmer
EBs on the other side can be completely countered by a single unit
But that doesn’t mean sshilda wasn’t thought about when designing thorton
Mixed damage
Ncleaf…
And also that’s literally different cuz that’s designed for indeed one unit
Ubs are 1-2
So does Nita and Landoorisu look to be a free clear for Ice team havers
EBs are meant to showcase the featured units
UBs are meant to fully utilize them
If you have Irida, yes
Must be 3/5 or no?
Pretty sure because Nita sets up sandstorm 3 times
And that's the exact amount Irida can do
If 3/5
Grusha is only ice zone
Remember that the sides also set sandstorm
Irida can only replace the weather with hail if she's the one setting ice zone
You try eggmon Glaceon with Irida
Ok
It is hella lame, it would make the Grusha pairing or any other Ice Zone setter much better
So do you think 3/5 NCR, 3/5 Iri and 3/5 NCB is free clear
Or even with something like SS Silver > NC R
Any support there is a free clear
That’s so cringeeeeee
Aaaaaaa
Marlon it is then
Probably works, yes
yeah
Ice would've been meta if Irida's Watch For Ice passive worked that way, but it is what it is
Red would prob end the fight before the 3rd Nita move
Well, Ice is meta 
And idt it changes Ice that much at the current state
But it would change with future units, possibly
This makes me want Field EXR Irida even more
Praying
And also makes the most sense because of what she likes
Support, take it or leave it
No and no
No but it's very likely that she gets field and adaman sprint
I'd actually like Adaman Strike more
It canonically makes the most sense
yeah, it synergizes with their kits
yea, make sense.
On the other hand, UB is painful if the boss own a specific 'status nullification' against its weakness.
Yet maybe Dena scared to gave Leon Lithe (because it's not Resilience thing?), so clear status at some HP and wtz are enough haha..
Another reason, they won't do dumb move to make MF crippled at their field, I guess..
If you have it lithe how do you do fight reasonably

Like jeezus
It’s an electric weak but fuck you you need to bring like geeta
That's what I'm talking about🤣
Or just give Red def crush 2 and deal with rng
Well, it's frustrating I guess👀
I have to say. Unova is the worst to do an Extreme Battle if you're not planning to pull this month's NC pairs
Yeah, but it's not a 50 min long perfect execution
I have a lack of Unova pairs with me since I didn't pull Inigo and Emmet along with NC Rosa and Nate
Unova is in a weird spot where they have an incredibly diverse pool to use, but almost every one is seasonal or Masterfair
Yeah. And Master Fairs are worst nightmares for F2P or low-paying players
The main issue with Unova EBEs is if they ask for a status condition/status change
If it doesn’t demand one of those 2 things then odds are the free/gen pool options can cover it just fine
Unova ebes specifically demand rebuff these days
So
Suffering
The ncrosa one even had unflappable
As an extra fuck you
So the Extreme Battles don't required one?
These Extreme Battles do
I was just saying in general
But these ones do demand a negative status change like Rebuff for at least the center opponent
OTL
I’m just glad I have Anni and base N for piercing blows. It covers both ends of the spectrum.
entry, 80%, 50%, side hippowdon has Sandstorm in its moveset
sides can only do 1 total SS per fight ? or more?
doesn't say rn, i assume one extra but im not gonna guarantee that
That sounds like the fight actually wants Irida + BP Candice instead of Irida + NC Red, if I'm honest
Or at least have Irida 3/5 and save the Ice Wishes for Sandstorm removal and murderize the Hippowdon earlier
You have dancing ice beam for that
True
I don't know if candice is worth giving up the raw power of red
Fair
Red also gives another hail if its really needed
It's 100% not worth it
Red is gonna KO Hippowdon before it can use Sandstorm regardless
Agreed but its still there if needed
Id assume the best team this time is probably NC Red Irida and Grusha
The support is irrelevant, most likely, but the best one is unlikely to be Grusha
more ice zone never hurts
the best support for ice team is SSA Cynthia or Chase as it always is
caked of course*
I know this question has probably been brought numerous times already but I’m curious what teams anyone had used for this EBE that doesn’t have the new units
My Unova team is pretty meh to say the least. I beat the first stages, after a bunch of tries but the second stages are killing me
One thing that really helps make it easier is if you have any limited Rebuff appliers to handle most of the gimmicks
I do have NC Red and Penny. I feel like those are the only good units I have for the event. I have tried them but they get slaughtered 😅
Well you wouldn’t have them tank or deal damage, they’d be there purely to apply Rebuff so the other 2 team members can handle tanking and damage
That’s what I’ve been trying. Idk if I’m just playing wrong (very possible lol) or just getting very unlucky. NC Nate is my main damage dealer. He’s does pretty decent with damage but can only do so much with him
Hilda speed debuff hilbert speed buff
Assuming all units are 3/5 and caked
Can geeta + ncbianca + redlax clear palmer ub
Hmm, gotta wait & see till redlax gets his exr
Don't know how to Ball Guy 2
Cuz it needs status condition and attack down
And I don't have Oleana
send your Galar and Poison roster here
Should be fine with that team
Morty + adaman + cheren/ghetsis will be a fun and easy clear
Nita needs rebuff?
no
Change sand and debuff speed
Oh ok
Hello everyone, i have problem battling hilda part 2 and hilbert part 2, any reccommendation which sp should i use or upgrade? Currently i have 1 str 1 tech & 1 sup candy, and i can trade for 1 any ex rollcake
do you have NC Blue?
you can check the *EBE doc in the pins out
Hmmm it's tough. You are lacking options to be able to clear both stages
It took me way too long because i wanted to use 3/5 SS Silver but the snorlax was giving me problems. Anyways, it became easier with 4/5 Silver so here it is.
Team Setu:
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Time for some SS Silver propaganda 
The May clear is easier just give everyone Vigilance
That’s so sick wtf
No Adaman for me lol
I'm in the same boat too 
Atleast morty + cheren is a good core and I have nc.leaf who fits perfectly
No NCheren either. Gotta find me a speed debuffer…
Oh yeah true
Ghetsis Nc Leaf and SS Morty is pretty guaranteed if all are 3/5
So far all UB can be cleared with 1/5 units, just need to have the right combination 
that one can use Sandstorm as unlimited.
Ah annoying
You dont have to worry about hippo when you have ss morty. He has too many suns
i guess
Sunburst at 5/5(better to use turn 1 sunny day and fish for a mpr) + 2 sunny days + field ex + mprs
Leaf also has 2 suns
i'm contemplating if i'm gonna be running NC Leaf + Variety Kiawe + SS Morty
or.... get SS Morty, NC Red and Irida .-.
Adaman and leaf are unfair against this ub when combined with ss morty(maybe ss acerola could work as well)
the biggest problem about the UB is they're 350k each target.
Dont use morty with the ice core. Use non weather supports like nc.blue, nc.rosa, ssac, chase
hrm NC Blue huh.
i'll test my teams later i guess
I want to see if ss mina + nc.cheren + anni skyla can clear this stage or not
Ss mina unfortunately only has 2 rains
Time to nita
who is nita built for
Irida
Ok she hit really hard wth
Nita got hands
i was looking at her attack stats compared to the other UBs and its real high lmao
Also her crit next is annoying
i hope a random ss silver ghetsis clear comes out so i have an excuse to 3/5 silver
Change sand and debuff speed for nita, but she hits earthquake with sure crit. Should i go all vigilance?
tbf it just released lol
so nc red or irida are immediately gonna be the quick clears
well she's anabel 2.0, needs weather and debuff constantly
and dmg too
Anabel imo, with Leon up there too
crazy that the first UB is arguably the hardest lol
i suppose when they require a weather change, only so many units work lol
mainly because of the restrictions
I've only cleared Leon and Lucy so far 
So this is what it feels like to not have Cerena and KriSS for Anabel haha
others seems so way beyond me
Most have very specific things you need to do, though I’d say Darach is second most accessible after Lucy
omg she hits hard
yeah like even with debuffs, her sync does so much dmg
Nita is today? Fuck
Why doesn’t she hit this hard when she’s on our side lol
Because support 
Tfw 1/5 Irida
having hard time with 1/5 too, you need another weather and that'll hurt the comp
So far on my preliminary testing I used Ghetsis/NC Red/SS Morty, but Ghetsis’s Glaciate can’t really keep up with Nita unless he solely does Glaciate haha
Is there someone who drops Speed AoE at least two levels
I think I could try SS Morty but that's risking losing DPS and icy wind without hail is so 

Pal Bea clear 
I want to PUKE, you actually need 3/5 Irida
I don’t even dare use PalBea lol
🤮
Nita already smashed through SS Morty under sun, that Ice Cream gonna get crushed
Unless Irida backup lol
More like it's not designed for Irida as she needs 3/5 to benefit from extending ice
I'm extremely salty now
Well, Chase just bit the dust
Hmmmmm, I'm reminded that ASSerola has Tripping Strike with No Quarter
OMG even Irida can't keep up with speed buffs
ok the crit is annoying af, she 1shot everyone, trying ssmorty, ncleaf and ncserena atm
She gives AoE defense buffs
On her TM
She does? Huh
Wait you gotta Palmer her too?
Also Red's damage is actual ass without the grids
like idk she went from -6 to +6 or something
That’s very demanding

her sync resetting her stats is suc a thing to consider haha
You mean she has Fresh Start?
Or like Gardenia's TM on sync?
yeah probably that
She seems harder than I expected
finally beat the girl, i can confirm this is the hardest LG up-to-date
you need to precisely time weather setting moves to cancel Sandstorm
I'm coming back after getting 3/5 Irida
Ah yes, Landorus is my favorite LG level
gakon accidentally leaking the next LG
Ur a DeNA insider 
Another one for Cheren
I suppose he'd clear "better" with Irida too?
Yeah lol
Thankfully I'm close to a new tech candy so I can give to her but it's so frustrating. So close yet so far
but there's SS Kris too
maybe you can also use SS Morty?
since Cheren helps by reducing speed
where speed debuffer
Cheren debuffs speed
oh, you meant with for Natwaf
my bad
yeah
Fun times
Ohh yeah
i'm thinking about something dumb
I'm thinking about using NC Blue+Irida+someone else
except both of the pairs i mentioned are 1/5
Maybe I'll try something really really stupid
NC Red+Irida+NC Blue, except all of them are 1/5
who should I use though
idk
field ex role for irida when
candice and froslass

Pal Bea? but even then the team lacks dmg
not only no damage, but i dont even have her
what master fairs do you have
on paper this would be very easy
I'm unsure if I want to 3/5 Irida for it since then I have no chance for the clout of beating it with 1/5 irida
Ugh if Nita didn't use ground attack, Ash would be viable
I defeated her with NC Red 2/5, Irida 3/5 and NC Blue 3/5
wasn't even that easy to pull of
It's no anabel but yeah
Personally i think the hardest UB to judge by difficulty honestly is leon
I think the "cheapest" possible run by looking at the winning teams is: NC Cheren 3/5, NC Blue 3/5 and SS Morty 2/5 or more
Why Cheren
I mean the NC one, he can lower speed
Do they have Unflappable?
nope
I see
you can flinch, sleep and freeze them
they do have the resilience extension like Anabel tho
You can do Red / Irida / Tina
I'm tempted to try a fire team
how much investment on Red and Irida tho
I don't have tina thought
For single MF, you prob go Irida + Ghetsis or SS Silver
that's an interesting support choice
But Irida needs 3/5 ofc
The funny thing is, i have all the ingredients required to beat it, but not the investment needed
NC Leaf would really help too as counter
Charm Is real nice
The main star would be SS May
It's more for Trip Up than Charm
SS Morty + SS Silver should be one of the strongest duos for this
But yes, Charm also helps for Sync
I'm pondering doing something like my Leon completion: 3/5 irida 1/5 nc blue and 1/5 nc red
reminder that once you defeat center, Hippowdon uses Sandstorm
What investment is that?
Hmmmm
You could do the waiting game and increase move level over time for red and irida
You know what
there's no rush on clearing this event anyway, it'll be there forever lol
Lucky with flinches so i.can get -2 speed.or.more
I've always felt that irida was falling behind even on my OP ice team
So fuck it
3/5 we go
I need to answer the question on who gets my tech candies anyways
E
Btw i managed to sync thrice
Irida my beloved
So thats funny
It took me a bit to clear so just get lucky and time your damage
guess I'll record
Gl .-.
Ouuu
I mean hey
I beat leon with the dumbest layout possible
I think i might be able to do Nita
Anyone tried SST Red + Irida?
is in the winning teams
there are a few clear with sst red already
I got hit by an EQ after its first sync
Im surprised NC Red can get damage guarded like this .-.
Comeon he has his exr ;-;
Adaman / SS Lyra / SS Acerola feels like a potential clear
But kinda annoying with RNG
The nice thing is that Solarize and similar beat Nita's endurance sandstorm if the Sync is the move that gets to the threshold
Well, somehow NC Blue/SST Red/Irida lost
skill issue but yeah not easy even with meta comp, just like when you first try anabel
i used nc rosa + red/Irida and barely beat it
What’s the consensus on Nita? About to start it.
Unlimited sandstorm wtf
Lol it's bullshit
No 3/5 Irida = Death
Mid gets sure crit next after sync or smth?
Is it hard
Yes
Think might need vigilance for this bullshit for off type
Idk why am I nervous after having nc red, irida
Without a weather setter who can replace sandstorm 3 or 4 times

Vigilance is usually a given
I want to wait and see tosakinto somehow pull off poison against it
even then 3/5 Irida is needed
Do they get resilience?
I really hope 5th anni wont have tech or if it does it's like NC Cheren or NC Leaf
No worries
Usable at 1/5
Already 3/5
I wonder if anyone did a Cheren clear
Have we seen ghetsis at all?
there is quite a few NC Cheren clears
Not very good but seems to be in his wheelhouse.
You think SS Kris and NC Serena would be good?
Kris would have a hard time until she set up stoic boosts
when does it refresh sandstorm?
Yeah in the successful team tab
With 3/5 Irida and NC Blue
debuff reseting upon syncing is cruel for Cerena

I have no SS Lyra so whatever
Also Victor helps with debuffing the speed while also having massive DPS so yeah unlike Lyra who's debuffs are random
Has anyone used SS Silver on Nita?
Bruh what's up with Nita
Like I know but why she eating
It feels like Nita is another version of Anabel
Requiring debuffs and replacing weather
She feels rougher
Maybe because ice has only few good units unlike water
I'm guessing all 3/5
How many supports do we have that give SEUN?
Because Red's 1st S-Move: Hail might be useful
3 off the top of my head
Dana red and holiday Jasmine
Yeah, but EX would be better
And argenta at 3/5
Also NC Bede doesn't count
it's 3/5 Irida so no need to worry about the sides
i find spamming Red's Blizzard is better
When is Redlax's EXR coming again?
19th
Jesus, that long
Next Wednesday
You got part of the gimmick checks, but Ground weakness is bad
First sync did 750 to Geeta with -6 Atk, -6 Spe, sun, and +6 Defense
Because I plan to use Irida's Ice Wish when bursting with Red and Red will trigger 1st S-Move: Hail when reaching the 80% threshold then using Ice Wish again when Nita reaches 50%
Should I take 1st sync hail on nc red?
Depends on what your plan is
Those EQ are what are killing me
Irida, blue and red
@low coral What do you think
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you don't need it
I'm gonna try Redlax/Redticuno/Irida
Don't need wht?
hail on first sync
That's a good strat
Anyone to pair with NC Red for the new UB? I don't have Irida
This one was the easiest team I found
Or do I save it for the 2nd sandstorm on threshold?
No need to save
You have Redlax or nah?
I do, 5/5
So can you try for me?
It was too good to be true, Nita really woke up and chose violence
When Red gets his EXR that is
Sure
I am very close to Anni Steven it still
Thanks
With cheren and NC blue
She is packed with dmg sadly so I gotta be more smart on rotations
So far just did the gems clear with cheren irida NC blue but sweet jesus this battle is rough
I've finished my run
who tanked here?
No extra energy + no skill gear
Irida 3/5 EX L.150
NC Blue 3/5 EX R L.140
NC Red 2/5 EX L.140
It was Irida, yes
EX R on Blue is not even needed... but can't be deactivated so..
Yea, I have been thinking of 3/5’ing Irida for a long time, but I finally pulled the trigger
Can someone point me towards a speed debuffing support. Irida can’t keep up and alternate ice zone for me
do they get immunity to flinch at some point?
The get resilience
Die woman, die!!!

yep
nice to see SS Morty there haha
(but if you put SS Morty on left, it'd make a nicely RBY* theme)
His potions there are really handy
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Can u tell me when she sets sandstorm
First time i presynced an UB on first try 
start, 80% and 50% HP
1st on entry
2nd on 80%
Oh ok
3rd on 50%
Ok
sides also activate Sandstorm if Nita is down btw.
and Hippowdon uses Sandstorm if you take out Lando
Oh
I mean by then you should either have snowballed enough or have sides weakened enough
the most annoying part was Speed redu imo.
Sides taking less dmg
Speed reduction + wheater is extremely annoying
Same reason Anabel was bullshit, not much debuff + wheater compression out of a few specific units
my Irida could barely do any dmg because she keeps getting herself at the point where her Icy Wind would take opp's Speed to 0.
Same
this UB is kinda bullshit
It feels pretty hard to skip both Irida and Cheren
This UB is insane!
True
every Ice Wish must be insta queued to not mess up
Why use ice zone support when you can use Best Fire support Tech
I just messed up an ice wish

- builds Red's master passive.
I was using irida/ncblue/ncred and blue kept dying to double edge 
Nita has Double Edge???
The hippo
Hippodown
idk if anyone else tried testing but opp's 1st Sync prolly guarantee instakill all if either Speedster Sync 9 or Sand Blaster 9 was active.
i find spamming it is better than B Move
Dragon rush on right
Double edge on left
And Idk Nita just EQs or Earthpowers
Just use it to turn deny
The sure crits are really ugh
I basically controlled the whole stage because screw the random bs
sides are fat so i think it's a good idea to chip them down, i did deny them too
here.. not "too invested" busted team
This is is one is one of the hardest UB yet... if not the hardest. Similar to Anabel, you have two requirements:
- Remove or change weather (anything but Sandstorm)
- Reduce stats... mainly Speed, but she hits quite hard... so Offenses are also appreciated.
Only recorded this run because I've seen people with very invested units doing it. The ...
True
Everyone died except Hippodown
I will continue later the rayqaza attempts, actually closer than what I thought
Will it work ?





