Egg on my face if someone did it before me, lmao
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
silver spruce
She's always struggled with maintaining flying zone before her expanded grid. That extension tile is kinda huge for her and strike ex allows her to take over the syncing
She's still really good, just hasn't really had the right gimmick to counter most of the stages
dim lance
it still kind of is a problem, especially when her comps just lack the offensive pressure needed
which is the main reason why she can't clear Anabel
silver spruce
The other issue is that she's the only flying zone setter
silver spruce
Darach would be a breeze with her if there was another setter to reduce mpr need
Tank Lysandre is my jam
I eventually need to exrole him
dim lance
it's bad in EBEs and places where you can't heal as much but like
I've tried anabel and thorton before
the issue isn't that he'll die soon so much as his comps really lack offensive pressure
silver spruce
Even seeing Mallow on Leon recently has been eyeopening
She goes from 20%-80 in a giga
silver spruce
Skyla is rock weak right?
silver spruce
Healthy Buffer helps lysandre alot
She could probably do it with Adaman maybe?
Some physical nuker that gives rebuff
dim lance
against who
rotund oasis
she heals her health with 1 press of a button
so she can paralyze in between.
the lapras was almost abaout to kill NC Serena though.
but considering Mallow took the Hyper Beams like a champ, they geared towards to kill Lapras with just Water huriken and SS Mina's sync
rich heron
I have a team to clear it but sstr is 1/5
Chase, nc blue and sstr
Kanto analysis
Countdowns
silver spruce
against who
Thorton
Skyla can easily carry the first part of the fight if you negate his ability with rebuff
She wants a physical dps to carry the rest
silver spruce
dang. they managed to clear it rofl.
I'm still sad the Dahlia team got the mid but ran out of zone to do anything
crude marten
silver spruce
Is there a video per chance?
quick nexus
silver spruce
ty
rotund oasis
kek
stable tundra
JPese disappointing us challenge: impossible
dim lance
JPese disappointing us challenge: impossible
they're just built different
sour elk
I'm very impressed by those fairy and psychic clears 
dim lance
Nobody likes flyings sadge
rotund oasis
which flying would even tank at that point?
silver spruce
Flying is lacking a really good master fair
dim lance
which flying would even tank at that point?
i just showed a vid with flying against darach
mostly balanced by flying buffing darach but oh well
flying has done only two UBs, which are Argenta and Darach
silver spruce
Lysandre can definitely handle Darach and probably lucy. He would struggle with Leon
dim lance
I mean Lucy is literally just
put Antitoxin: the stage
so not gonna count that because it's way easier
silver spruce
Agreed
dim lance
but yeah, flying needs a better abuser for now
silver spruce
Thorton is probably possible for Lysandre to tank but flying as a whole lacks rebuff
dim lance
having a dedicated support zoner is also fine
dim lance
Thorton is probably possible for Lysandre to tank but flying as a whole lacks re...
Lysandre has more or less tanked everything except Palmer, the issue is more so how his comps lack the damage to clear before syncs pop his ass
I've already tested everything
silver spruce
Skyla is perfect for him because she gives enough gauge
rotund oasis
lysandre 5/5 ye?
dim lance
i mean as long as you're not running a comp that doesn't buff speed, sprint + 2 MGRs means he can manage
rotund oasis
wwhat'ss the team comp even?
silver spruce
a four bar move tied to a support is hard depending on the comp
dim lance
its not mandatory
silver spruce
Lysandre Anni Skyla and third
dim lance
but having downside up helps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cSaKVqxcwY @rotund oasis
zinfogel used Anni steven against Argenta
rotund oasis
Interesting.
dim lance
but the comp is more or less the same
sour elk
Lysandre tank will never not impress me
silver spruce
Its similar to Variety Mallow on leon but with healthy buffer
rotund oasis
anni skyla 5/5
dim lance
oops
silver spruce
In theory its doable with Leon if you get enough Wish MPR
dim lance
mallow isn't there to be immortal
paralysis also
yeah if I run CBlue probably?
but like
rotund oasis
waait, lysandre is tanking? wew.
dim lance
CBlue kind of counters the stage on his own so
dim lance
waait, lysandre is tanking? wew.
i mean, he tanks better than everyhting
except mina, cynthia and some othre very niche tanks
silver spruce
I'd say tank with lysandre so blue can conserve his roost mp
silver spruce
I think there is a legitimate clear there
I just don't have the investment required for it
dim lance
the issue is there's no status protection in that composition
rotund oasis
i have him 3/5 so maaybe if i get dupes of him in mix ? maybe?
silver spruce
Run status immunity
wide awake on skyla and blue
but Lysandre will want status immunity
dim lance
- idt he can stomach crits, but yeah we'll see
he can probably reliably take everything else tho
silver spruce
I think he'll be fine until the sure crit sync move
which gives you 3-4 sync cycles to kill mid, which is enough for Skyla I'd imagine
dim lance
yeah, I'll give it a try i guess
silver spruce
You could be a g and use variety falkner over lysandre
His potion should help keep blue up
dim lance
Ehh, I'm gonna try Lysandre anyhow
silver spruce
Falkner is nice because he allows Skyla to run CS2
sour elk
I wonder if I would have more luck with Fire Guard+SS Morty+NC Leaf than with Status Immunity+SS Lana+NC Blue for a SS Steven clear, I had kinda given up on it for the time being but I'm feeling like trying later
silver spruce
Trying to avoid the rats I take?
dim lance
which gives you 3-4 sync cycles to kill mid, which is enough for Skyla I'd imagi...
i don't think skyla has the damage for it
I can come close, but then the crit probably just kills everybody afterwards
hearty cedar
You will wipe the floor with anabel
random bronze
dude im actually done with leon man
i have no good supports to out last his attacks
WAIT SOMEONE DID IT WITH THE FAIRIES
hold up
dim lance
which gives you 3-4 sync cycles to kill mid, which is enough for Skyla I'd imagi...
Unless I use SDG (which means less damage for the team comp)
Lysandre will get chunked too hard by Leon's Max move
while the wildfire chip also means he can't maintain healthy buffer and just explode
sour elk
Trying to avoid the rats I take?
I just want SS Steven to clear at some point, already cleared the stage with sst red but that's not as interesting to talk about or showcase
Unless it's zinfogel and his clear with Clemont and Surge
deep storm
What lucky skill for new ubm?
stable tundra
for team details and videos
lunar sedge
I was thinking of SS Hilbert before I finished mine, good to know despite SE he can get through
eternal yacht
He needs a lot of support. SST Red needs to both max move turn 1 and set terrain before heat wave so Hilbert wouldn't take massive damage
Red only needs 1/5 EX R for this clear
shrewd marten
Ngl I think 3/5 ssmorty ncleaf geeta is a pretty stable clear
Granted mine are max invested except for Morty but still
Not needing sstr is a huge boon
eternal yacht
Fire weak who???
lunar sedge
Red probably still lives but that dragon rush para was p nice
eternal yacht
Yeah, even if he would've died to Butterfree's hyper beam Hilbert would finish the job as they were left so low
hearty cedar
Fire weak who???
Damn, 2nd clear for genesect. Gratz
Wish he could have won against anabel with his water technoblast
silver spruce
i don't think skyla has the damage for it
I don't have the 5/5 tile but I tested her out on Thorton out of curiousity, she can reach the 61% threshold. So I tried using Summer Liza as a battering ram for physical. +9 PMUN with 4 sync buffs did 12K. ... God we need better physical flying types
shrewd marten
who said volo was bad
This is like 90% mina and blue
jaunty light
oh god not having top tier supports guts my ability to do ubs
shrewd marten
oh god not having top tier supports guts my ability to do ubs
You’re missing all of them?
jaunty light
You’re missing *all* of them?
from the top off my head (and what i think is top tier) i have ccalem, ss brendan, penny, argenta, redlax
shrewd marten
No Elaine mina either?
jaunty light
nope..
shrewd marten
Can you send all your supports
Just to see if I can catch if you happen to have a big one hiding
jaunty light
okay well
shrewd marten
No I get it
jaunty light
see this is why im bad at this game
shrewd marten
You can technically try for hyperoffense clears if you have the right unit
Like cerena
jaunty light
the two ubs i come close to clearing is argenta and leon
cause i have ss diantha and nc silver/sst red and ash
shrewd marten
If you have sstr ash I think you can do leon even with a generic support
Like maybe aaron
jaunty light
ill try out the fight with different supports
rich heron
Is 3/5 Geeta necessary for ss Morty team
slow sky
if you have a reliable status inflictor u can replace Geeta
she's mainly there to apply poison + debuff/chip dmg
rich heron
Like
slow sky
idk, i used her to clear with NC Leaf and SS Morty
tbh if SSHilbert wasnt fire weak maybe I might have used him
he has a grid that 100% paralyze enemies when his move is electric typing
rich heron
But I don't have him
slow sky
altho his move is single target, but it paralyzes with grid
even NC Blue cant paralyze efficiently even with HE2
unless you want to play with chance, which is not really fun to play with when they start to cleanse very often after 1st sync from Leon
when any of them uses a buff, it cleanse the entire team's status
rich heron
I have 4/5 Hilda with HE3
slow sky
kinda glad they made flinch/sleep/freeze immunity on them
if not they will become a liability if you deny any 1 of them but dont have a 100% status inflicting move
rich heron
Ic
slow sky
the sides do after 1st sync
rich heron
Oh
slow sky
Leon will use sure crit all before 2nd sync
(that also cleanse as well)
altho if you let him use it, it's pretty much game over unless all 3 are close to fainting
rich heron
I have 1)5 sstr
Only that's problem
Otherwise I would have cleared
rich heron
Chase has he9
Ig
I saw a nc blue, chase and sstr clear
Others are 3/5
But not sstr
rich heron
Ye chase has he9
stable storm
huh, hau, ss glad and nc rosa can clear Lucy ub
took a few resets hoping for good potion mpr, no random crit and no misses but it's possible
rich heron
she's mainly there to apply poison + debuff/chip dmg
If that's the case, can u tell me strategy 
Ig I can use chase
For gurrantee paralyze
And also some dmg reduction from kanto analysis
fading walrus
Fervor is very situational
rich heron
Umm ye
slow sky
If that's the case, can u tell me strategy <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
well, u kinda need to know when Leon and his lackeys will apply status cleanse
esp the part where Leon hits 60% if you are going to sync right after the endure effect kicks in
SSTR will be tricky to use if he's your sole DPS since you have to also refresh E terrain after he hits 60%
grand herald
Why is this team getting wrecked by Anabel?
silver spruce
Why is May the tank?
spiral summit
Why is this team getting wrecked by Anabel?
You should watch the clear in the pin to understand the comp
eternal yacht
Why is this team getting wrecked by Anabel?
If you don't set rain instantly she ohkos your team
silver spruce
That team should demolish the stage
grand herald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkLINeL5hI8
ty for this. I'll check it out.
silver spruce
You should have an easier time than the vid
stable tundra
If you can't kill Anabel before her second or this sync, giving everyone Vigilance is a good idea
spiral summit
And this is an old clear, if you have Sup cake for Cerena it’ll much easier
grand herald
If you can't kill Anabel before her second or this sync, giving everyone Vigilan...
Should I give fire guard too?
eternal yacht
No
grand herald
Is there a post with all the UB clear videos?
eternal yacht
In the pins
silver spruce
Looking at the vids they synced with may every time. You should be doing it with serena
slow sky
he should be demolishing the stage, esp with the fact that he has a secondary rain setter & DPS
silver spruce
short oyster
@stable tundra
stable tundra
Skyla, SS Steven and Grimsley should be able to clear both missions at once
Give Skyla Vigilance at least, use Protect and Snatch right before enemies' first sync
short oyster
Assuming Steven is the main DPS since I can’t get grimsley to do any damage?
rich heron
Can 1/5 Geeta, 1/5 sstr and nc blue clear leon?
Ig it can work
stable tundra
Assuming Steven is the main DPS since I can’t get grimsley to do any damage?
You can spam Dark Pulse and pray for some flinch
stable tundra
Can 1/5 Geeta, 1/5 sstr and nc blue clear leon?
Ig it can work
Is NC Blue 3/5?
rich heron
Ye
spiral summit
Can 1/5 Geeta, 1/5 sstr and nc blue clear leon?
Ig it can work
Idt 1/5 Geeta do much for that team
Red need para to debuff
But Geeta need poison to use her B Move
stable tundra
Geeta has her exclusive skill to debuff
rich heron
She has poison gurranteed
stable tundra
The problem is the lack of nuke from Red
rich heron
Yea that's little problem
stable tundra
Idk if he can clear within 3 uses of terrain
spiral summit
Geeta has her exclusive skill to debuff
But it is really random, and only active when Poison Zone is actived
rich heron
I saw a Hilbert 3/5 , 1/5 sstr and nc blue run
spiral summit
Hilbert brings more dmg to that team
rich heron
spiral summit
He also utilizes SE and ET
stable tundra
But it is really random, and only active when Poison Zone is actived
I thought the debuffs were tied to poison for some reasons 
stable tundra
Blame me for skipping her
short oyster
Skyla, SS Steven and Grimsley should be able to clear both missions at once
So I had a run go really well and was able to double sync but still ended up dying to the auto crit heat wave plus icy wind, do I just have to keep trying until it uses less annoying moves?
lunar sedge
he should be demolishing the stage, esp with the fact that he has a secondary ra...
i mean if you don't have the full grasp of how the gameplay works you're bound to fail even when having the exact counter 
silver spruce
While true its not hard to search youtube for a Cerena clear that he could mimic
stable tundra
So I had a run go really well and was able to double sync but still ended up dyi...
Give Steven Vigilance then
Focus on healing Skyla and Steven only
short oyster
Got it!
Since I’m struggling through all the battles today this should be able to beat the stage right?
stable tundra
Should be, yes. The first sync cycle is gonna be rough because Lyra doesn't tank physical attacks very well
You can replace her with a defensive tank, and let Ethan be the dmg dealer while Silver takes every sync to setup sun
short oyster
Yeah they took a lot of damage even on level 1, but my Johto roster doesn’t really have much else unfortunately
Would Morty and mismagius work?
silver spruce
Morty will give you the chance to flinch which should help
short oyster
Alright! Now to see if I have enough cookies to get vigilance on my Steven
Stupid question, Skyla already buffs defense and speed, should I be using cosmic power to add special defense for his sync or should I be spamming zen headbutt to add flinch chances?
silver spruce
spam psycho boost
grand herald
@silver spruce I'm still struggling with Anabel :/
silver spruce
I don’t have Serena so I can’t record a video for you. It should be sync with Kris first, then sync with Serena after
solar stirrup
<@300067580050276354> I'm still struggling with Anabel :/
Look at what you're doing wrong
If you're spending this much time on trying to beat Anabel, record your attempt and compare it to the clear video
silver spruce
The clear video uses 1/5 instead of 3/5 Serena
grand herald
If you're spending this much time on trying to beat Anabel, record your attempt ...
I almost beat it but now the Overheat from the Arcanine kills Suicune everytime now. My mpr rng for potion is shit lol
stable tundra
Do you think you can still beat the sides after Kris is down?
peak mist
Doing last minute things for gems and…huh. I did not expect to just accidentally brute force the gimmick
Just saw e4 ground and was like “ok Bertha go” and replaced the one answering the status check without thinking lol
shrewd marten
I’m pretty sure ssac counters the gimmick
stable storm
I’m pretty sure ssac counters the gimmick
isn't that para limited to grid?
shrewd marten
her gimmick should be zone
stable storm
her gimmick should be zone
it's healthy advantage and zone
stable tundra
Only on his B Move
bright python
how dead of a horse would i be beating if I attempted to just one-up this record with the same team i used for the leon ub?
rotund oasis
Was that my palmer clear?
bright python
that's the lucy UB
rotund oasis
Ohhh
bright python
Since i was able to clear the lucy ebe with the same team and gri i used vs leon
only difference was the lucky skills on nc blue and ash, where instead of CS2 i used antitoxin
rotund oasis
It took me an hour to beat leon with it tbh
Had to time my sync and nuke tbh
Could run a vid if u want o.o
slow sky
Had to time my sync and nuke tbh
the cleanse and zone/weather deletion on 60% hp endure and the cleanse when the team uses a buff move is reaaaaaallly annoying ngl
bright python
true
I think i lost half my runs becuase that damn refresh would occur and then my whole team is put to sleep by like a sparkling aria
bright python
Could run a vid if u want o.o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkR7k_G57PI
this is what you have summoned
marble flume
Man, I’ve somehow skipped at least 1 Sync Pair in every single Leon UB team
river prawn
There is still no vid of the ice clear in the sheet
slow sky
I dont wanna re-create my cleared run with Geeta/SS Morty/NC Leaf due to how much RNG needed
(kinda glad that the successful team list is back so I don't have to bother if the team needs to go thru RNG hell to clear)
true lagoon
can 1/5 geeta and 3/5 sst clear with nc blue as the support
slow sky
if geeta is merely there for poison infliction and damage field removal it should work
lunar sedge
You got 2 of the major counter
true lagoon
i think the problem is that sst can only paralyze once
without taking he4 which is cringe
slow sky
Geeta can resolve your paralysis problem
true lagoon
so id need shocking slowdown to ramp
slow sky
which u can in turn use to build up SSTR damage
true lagoon
Geeta can resolve your paralysis problem
well his multiplier is cakewalk and he can only debuff speed vs paralyzed opponents
maybe he can drop it cuz hes on type here
slow sky
hm
true lagoon
i didnt get geeta’s cookie so no debuff for me
slow sky
idk if u want to use max move early or delay until when he applies cleanse at 60% to inflict paralysis
since using it at an early stage doesnt really seem like a good idea
slow sky
or u can try to fish for paralysis with blue on turn 1
u only really need the mid to get paralyze
the sides u can just let them get poisoned so they take chip damage everytime they use an attacking move
fading walrus
can 1/5 geeta and 3/5 sst clear with nc blue as the support
3/5 tbolt + NC blue Vs Leon is like sskris + cerena Vs Anabel or nc leaf + ssmorty Vs thorton
Any good third works
shrewd marten
Man, I’ve somehow skipped at least 1 Sync Pair in every single Leon UB team
Not a single rat ncblue no ice team no chase no Sshau nothing?
marble flume
I’m talking about the ones in the doc
If there’s something that I could do outside of it I haven’t seen it yet
I’m not really upset beyond mild annoyance, though
lunar sedge
Me with Thornton lol
lunar sedge
Well there's actually one with pairs that I do have, but they want 5/5 
fading walrus
Me with Thornton lol
Real no NC blue moment?
grand herald
What's the best grids for these 3 against Anabel?
fading walrus
Classic cerena water grid
Sskris with endure and flameproof and then kinda whatever works
May on a roll, BP and spa tiles
grand herald
Classic cerena water grid
What's the classic Serena grid? lol Can you DM me it?
shrewd marten
powerplay furious brain and the spdef down in rain
grand herald
This is my current grid
fading walrus
Yeah pretty much
grand herald
Well I'm still not able to beat her with this team. No idea what I'm doing wrong..other than shitty RNG
grand herald
I keep dying on 2nd sync
I sunc with Kris then May but always die on opp 2nd sync. Only ever took out middle 1 time.
shrewd marten
You shouldn’t get there
No may
Wait what
Should be 4 syncs
Where’s 2 of them go
grand herald
I omly get 3 syncs off
grand herald
Hmm ok so sync with Serena after Kris?
shrewd marten
Yes
And like
Turn 1
Set rain dance
Use move
Then use brutal swing
In that order
Or use may rain dance
Cerena tm
And then kris staggering brine and reset for that
grand herald
Serena did a dark sync for some reason..
Should she do water ones every time or no?
shrewd marten
Um
Can you tell me exactly how you managed to do a dark sync
Because I said to flinch one time
Turn 1
So you’ll be ahead one cycle
After that you water shuriken or else you don’t do damage and the sync move isn’t water
short gate
Do I suck or does my team suck?
silver spruce
It could be the way rain dance lasts that it runs out right before first sync which ruins a quad queue
short gate
Do I suck or does my team suck?
Don’t have any other limited electric units
short gate
Do I suck or does my team suck?
They’re all 3/5 and exr
shrewd marten
It could be the way rain dance lasts that it runs out right before first sync wh...
flinch
silver spruce
Can serena flinch?
short gate
Yeah
shrewd marten
...yes????
silver spruce
@grand herald Try running adrenaline on Kris. That may fix the first sync issue. Then don't set rain dance until Serena is supposed to sync
That guarantees two syncs before Anabels can sync first. Then you need to time you quad qeues right before she gets her second sync. Kirby is right though, an optimal clear will have 4 syncs mimimum by Anabels second sync.
You could also use Serena's bmove to fix countdown issues if you can't quad queue
fading walrus
Do I suck or does my team suck?
No status past 60% moment
Run someone other than cerena
Or NC Rosa
One of the two has to go
short gate
I think my problem was chipping damage in the start
short gate
One of the two has to go
I have (at 3/5 exr): ss gladion, ss serena and (at 1/5 exr if it exists) geeta, ss morty, ss mina, ss Hilda and ss Steven
Other than that just pool units
fading walrus
Geeta works better than cerena here
short gate
Also velio but he isn’t doing anything here
short gate
Ik
fading walrus
Ideally you can run volkner with tbolt too
short gate
Eh my volkner is 1/5
short gate
I’ve been playing since 2022
fading walrus
Jesus
short gate
I’ve been playing since 2022
And I still haven’t gotten Sonia, jasmine, Karen or wally
fading walrus
That's wild
short gate
ong
fading walrus
Wtf
stone scarab
Alola spotlight moment
eternal yacht
Anybody?
stone scarab
We'd need to see your characters realistically
silver spruce
Lucy is arguably the easiest so it’s probable but like Mex said. We need to see your units
@eternal yacht
eternal yacht
We'd need to see your characters realistically
Can I dm you?
And please always ping me or I forget to check messages
rotund oasis
+tracker - you can post your sync pairs here; and post it as an image. Make sure your move levels, rarity and whatnot are accurate @eternal yacht
plucky swanBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
eternal yacht
+tracker - you can post your sync pairs here; and post it as an image. Make sure...
Last time I did it was a total mess
silver spruce
Use the Pokémon masters tool sync pair tracker
Or send screenshots from the game of relevant sync pies
Pairs
silver spruce
She’s easy to offtype with relevant master fairs
Nc leaf, nc Serena, nc blue, ss Gladion or Geeta can all offtype her
eternal yacht
And ss morty 3/5
eternal yacht
She’s easy to offtype with relevant master fairs
What’s her gimmick?
I used antitoxin but she killed my ss morty
stone scarab
Significant poison damage and speed buffing that boosts damage significantly
silver spruce
You need to mitigate poison and debuff speed. What’re you masterfairs looking like?
eternal yacht
You need to mitigate poison and debuff speed. What’re you masterfairs looking li...
So antitoxin and Courtney
So a team like
Courtney+ Maxie + Rika
In what order should I sync?
silver spruce
You’re gauge will be bad with that team. Might want try Morty over rika
Sync with Morty first then sync with Courtney after
Set up with Maxie and spam precipice blades
eternal yacht
Sync with Morty first then sync with Courtney after
Which grid for Morty? Boost defence?
Does gear matter that much?
eternal yacht
Thanks
I cleared it with NC RED, NC Blue and Irida
Btw how do you do it with Leon
I managed to beat charizard but the sides kill me
stable tundra
You should check the pinned doc out for stage info and clear examples
shrewd marten
Btw how do you do it with Leon
we rec the doc cuz the video has exact rotations
much easier than trying to say it manually
bold pumice
sent my Palmer clear 
fading walrus
On Leon?
bold pumice
oh no i meant Palmer UB
i was catching up on UBs and found a team on the ingame recommendations that was the only one i could do, but it had higher investment
managed to cook up a strat for it with 3/5 only
then i found out Arch posted the same team but with 5/5 Wally lolol
fading walrus
With whom?
bold pumice
fading walrus
Ahhhh
bold pumice
it was immensely fun
fading walrus
Yeah idt mina being 5/5 matters a lot
bold pumice
oh no it was Wally at 5/5 or 4/5 on the other clear
rotund oasis
fairy clearing 😮
bold pumice
yeah
cake wally is such a blessing
Mina also filtered Lucy in such a disrespectful manner
not touching Leon UB tho lol heck if i invest in rat
lunar sedge
Mina also filtered Lucy in such a disrespectful manner
Mina being poison weak makes it even better 
with the right play you could end the battle with her as the main tank with ~80% HP still lol
fading walrus
cake wally is such a blessing
Yeah it's huge for palmer
fading walrus
not touching Leon UB tho lol heck if i invest in rat
I mean if you have a rat
It can be done
Even if 1/5
fading walrus
There's some kinda cheap comps on Leon
That work
Dude is just hard to offtype
So if you have a rat you're likely gonna be fine
bold pumice
eternal yacht
So if you have a rat you're likely gonna be fine
And the sides?
rotund oasis
I saw someone with NC Serena, SS Mina and Variety Mallow tank the sides lol.
The Lapras needs to die though.
otherwise, Variety Mallow will tank a hyper beam to the face, and she heals it all back up with Giga Drain
eternal yacht
I used celesa, NC Blue and SST Red but the sides man
Bolt tackle doesn’t take them down
fading walrus
And the sides?
If it's tbolt he kills them easily by when Leon dies
If it's ash you just need to preemptively chip them
fading walrus
I used celesa, NC Blue and SST Red but the sides man
I used 1/5 celesa and tbolt + 3/5 NC blue non Rolex, won pretty easily
Like, I even spaghettied at the end
And still comfortably cleared
I didn't even use red max move
Lol
Oh wait I did use it on this try
I didn't use when I first did it and NC blue died
gloomy cradle
Need help with the New Heroes are Born quest ( battle challenge round 2 with bug and steel units)
rotund oasis
you've got SC Selene though?
rotund oasis
oh you cleared Sinnoh + Alola mission already?
gloomy cradle
Yes
Just can't figure out the bug and steel part
Sorry pretty new to the game still pretty rusty on everything
rotund oasis
yeah i think Skyla should be fine, they're mostly physical attackers. Just, they can +2 EVA so careful with that.
i suppose Guzma should be fine here, but he'd want to have his +ACC on his TM if you're missing a bunch of moves, which is his 2/5 grid ;_;
Try it first, and at least level them to at least level 120
gloomy cradle
Ok thank you
bold pumice
https://youtu.be/zjIuWVGF29Y?si=f6AxTaGeus7tkKl2
ty for the suggestion can't wait to test out
fading walrus
Nopro
I really liked that team
Celesa exR is very funny
In general I feel like most electr units are really fun 1/5s
rotund oasis
check in #1009564564821639379
Feels like its Cynthia's CSMM Battle.
short gate
no way
spice basin
Wrong channel but the gimmicks should be listed in #1232035765954019338
short gate
check in <#1009564564821639379>
Feels like its Cynthia's CSMM Battle.
damn you were right
short gate
Wrong channel but the gimmicks should be listed in <#1232035765954019338>
ya didn’t check which channel it was mb
spice basin
Np it happens
grand herald
Why is Anabel giving me so much of an issue? ughh
stable tundra
What kind of issue that stops you from clearing her? You got the easiest team to bully
grand herald
What kind of issue that stops you from clearing her? You got the easiest team to...
I have no clue! Watched the video, do things I think right but always get killed on opp 2nd sync and struggle to get 4 syncs off before.
stable tundra
Can you record your gameplay? So that we can figure out what went wrong
gloomy cradle
i suppose Guzma should be fine here, but he'd want to have his +ACC on his TM if...
Tysm , it worked just had to replace Skyla with Hop
grand herald
Can you record your gameplay? So that we can figure out what went wrong
I will! May be a couple hours though. Gotta head to work.
stable tundra
No rush!
eternal yacht
What’s the order for Leon’s ultimate battle if I use NC Blue, SST Red and Celesa
I use SST Red’s sync move but idk why it’s gone after Leon’s sync
Then I run out of electric terrain
I could use max conductivity but then his nuke wouldn’t be as strong
stable tundra
Leon clears every WTZ when he reachs 60% threshold
grand herald
@stable tundra Says file too big to post ugh
rotund oasis
Post it on youtube
You can open/register a youtube account using a Google account that you use for your Android Phone. (if you are using Android)
stable tundra
<@895250065109712917> Says file too big to post ugh
You can upload it to youtube or streamable, then send the link here
grand herald
You can open/register a youtube account using a Google account that you use for ...
Yeah I'll upload to my existing Youtube account most likely ty
grand herald
You can upload it to youtube or streamable, then send the link here
Ok ty I'll do that
grand herald
You can upload it to youtube or streamable, then send the link here
Here ya go! Not the best run but just an idea of my struggles..lol
spiral summit
If your 1st Brutal Swing doesn’t flinch, restart the battle
stable storm
also use quick attack and sync when you are water mode
stable tundra
grand herald
Any other advice @stable tundra?
stable storm
also try to be more mindful of when rain runs out and when the enemy is syncing
valid raft
<@895250065109712917> Says file too big to post ugh
Have you compressed it?
grand herald
Have you compressed it?
uploaded to Streamable
valid raft
https://streamable.com/4gze7l
Inclement Intellect on May is very useless especially because Kris fully buffs May
valid raft
https://streamable.com/4gze7l
Also used a move before Kris's sync when you shouldn't use a move before you sync
stable tundra
i highly recommend follow the example clear step by step
as Caster pointed out, you delayed the sync which leads to enemies queueing another action
which is not good in UB
grand herald
Inclement Intellect on May is very useless especially because Kris fully buffs M...
What should I replace it with?
valid raft
What should I replace it with?
Show me your grid first
grand herald
Show me your grid first
valid raft
Replace it for Rain Dance MPR
grand herald
That sync node at the bottom matter?
valid raft
Which one?
valid raft
grand herald
The Fire Blast kills Sucuine from Rapidash every time
valid raft
Really? Isn't Suicune one of the tankiest units for special damage?
grand herald
Yeah well it kills me. I don't have full health but close and still ko
And not using a move before sync..does that mean even a tm?
plucky swanBOT
In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.
See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4
For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.
grand herald
After Suicune dies Rapidash does a Heat Wave..even with Rain up that nearly kills the other 2
I swear my battles are glitched or something
Besides at the beginning when should I use Brutal Swing?
north chasm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmpcNOQOLc lmao they really can do anything
shrewd marten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmpcNOQOLc lmao they really can do anything
Isn’t this a very old clear
silver spruce
I’m amazed that’s not on the sheet
shrewd marten
I guess we just never did it cuz it’s too obvious
Although no rain removal isn’t exactly obvious
silver spruce
Agreed
I think the go too was to use Kris to remove rain or ss Morty for sun with the rats
north chasm
its not really obvious yeah
this is actually pretty hard for them
having to power through the rain
blue actually drops which is rare lol
silver spruce
Blue drops in most Leon clears lol
north chasm
fair enough
silver spruce
But I get your point, they’re just the most broken trio
So it’s makes sense the can do rain argenta
fading walrus
they havent done this one before
There's like 4 JP clears with these 3 since day one of Argenta
It was just never upped on the doc
grand herald
@silver spruce Can I DM you?
stable storm
where would ya all say fairy comp ranks among other comps?
low coral
Below Ice and Electric for sure, prob disputes its place with Fire, Water, and Poison
peak mist
Scale of 1-10 how hard has Leon turned out to be? Exr and mf boxes since that covers a good bulk of “ub answer” type of units
The Leon tab isn’t loading for me on iOS discord
stable tundra
you can try SSA Cynthia/Geeta and NC Blue and SST Red
bright python
Scale of 1-10 how hard has Leon turned out to be? Exr and mf boxes since that co...
he's really stupid without the required units, but seeing as you have them...
I think Geeta+SST Red+NC Blue should work
especially because all your units are 3/5
fading walrus
Scale of 1-10 how hard has Leon turned out to be? Exr and mf boxes since that co...
Tbolt + NC blue + blank units that statuses is a free win
bright python
I actually am thinking if i should try that combination with geeta i mentioned previously
fading walrus
He's really not crazy as long as you're ontype
bright python
Thing is, my geeta and nc blue are 1/5
fading walrus
I actually am thinking if i should try that combination with geeta i mentioned p...
I mean I won with her and 1/5 tbolt
bright python
Just want to see if with thay it's possible
bright python
Well i made it work
bright python
(i'm half convinced to put an encanto gif with rats because i used rats but i'm afraid you'll think i used like bruno lol)
bright python
I will ~~never~~ be proud of this
but twas here
fading walrus
Well then duh
bright python
probably the only surprising thing i did was beat it with a really really dumb ash grid
bold pumice
@final yacht hey sorry for the ping, just wanted to check in if i did the video form right 
stable tundra
your SS Wally is not marked as caked, but i will do it for you
i don't have time to add your clear yet cuz i'm at work rn 
stable tundra
final yacht
<@293075173136007169> hey sorry for the ping, just wanted to check in if i did t...
I have no idea as I didnt do anything for the last week
bold pumice
final yacht
Exam week my behated
low coral
And all because I forgot Sure Crit All removes paralysis
true lagoon
oh so they moved on from dh+ all to sure crit all it seems
i mean its possible at least right
silver spruce
And all because I forgot Sure Crit All removes paralysis <:LarryDead:10900148016...
How bad is having to shuffle vacuum wave and potion with Cynthia?
low coral
How bad is having to shuffle vacuum wave and potion with Cynthia?
Not bad
It's more annoying to get Numbing Blow to proc constantly
valid raft
It's more annoying to get Numbing Blow to proc constantly
Yeah, Numbing Blow proc was the key for my 3rd anni trio clear on Leon
low coral
Done
low coral
THE NCRED IRIDA MAN DOES IT AGAIN
From now on, Irida will be 5/5 
shrewd marten
From now on, Irida will be 5/5 <:SeleneLul:611382187711004672>
Did she need it or just ceremonial
low coral
I think it's needed on this one, but I already wanted to do that
As well as push Chase and Red further, which I didn't do
It lets me grab extensions + Mind Games + Artic Arrival + Satisfied Snarl all at the same time
low coral
It's kinda insane, you see Leon's super effective Inferno doing like
50%
And Cynthia's not even at max Sp. Def
gloomy cradle
Struggling With Infamous Pokestar Villain Battle Round 2 here's my dark and psychic roster .
onyx cedar
Cynthia is not necessary...
was done in the past with NC Blue and Chase instead of her
from the runs that I've with them, they need the investment for extra energy to make it work
low coral
You don't need extra energy with Blue
Cynthia would be the hardest one of the three
Between Blue and Chase, depends on investment
Chase has a cleaner win with very high investment, Blue starts to win earlier
But may need a bit of resetting based on your Discharge luck
onyx cedar
from tosakinto's run with Irida/CRed/NCBlue, only C Red needed extra energy to clear
low coral
You don't need that extra energy
What did he even get, actually?
The extra energy on Red is good with Cynthia because you can run Dauntless
But Blue makes it so it's not necessary
onyx cedar
he went like this
that's just one Sync Move extra energy
no idea how much it'd need tbh
low coral
You don't need, that was my first clear
low coral
Although I did run it, there weren't any thresholds missed
It should be
The range already is kinda tight with it
onyx cedar
I also think it should be
river prawn
I did that clear with all 3/5
white badger
Hey, anyone wanna help me brainstorm stuff for some missions? Trying to do the new heroes Battle Challenge missions, need to do the bug and steel type missions now.
Here's what I've got.
stable tundra
Guzma Pal Marnie a gauge support should work properly
you shoud try come up with your own teams first, before asking here
white badger
I had the idea of using Lodge dawn, a steel support, and NC Silver for it, would that have worked?
stable tundra
you can try
white badger
...yeah, worked easilly.
nimble zenith
Can anyone help me setup a team for Leon's ultimate battle? Here is the team I have been using
nimble zenith
Yes I do and yes he is
silver spruce
The go too is nc blue
nimble zenith
I don't have NC blue I have leaf though
silver spruce
Checking the doc might give you something fruitful as well
There’s a nc leaf ss Morty clear
stable storm
send your supports if you can
silver spruce
But I think it’s pretty ring based
nimble zenith
Unfortunately no ss morty either
silver spruce
A screenshot of supports with move level helps a lot
silver spruce
I don’t know how doable it is with what you have tbh
If you are willing to wait, you could invest in sst red to 3/5 and do zinfogels clear
That used lt surge and bp clemont
silver spruce
The reality is the UBs hit really hard and usually require specific support to work well
nimble zenith
Understand completely like NC blue at 3/5 for example and 6 star ex and some sync grid setup
calm summit
Is there a tip guide or something for ultimate battles?
silver spruce
fossil fjord
Any other supports that could work here? 
calm summit
<:CheckThePins:770547479446814730>
I did. Had hard time finding anything
stable tundra
+pins
plucky swanBOT
stable tundra
Any other supports that could work here? <:RosaThink:815426654955503627>
you can try with SSA Cynthia, Elaine or NC Rosa, but none of them is better than Blue
fossil fjord
you can try with SSA Cynthia, Elaine or NC Rosa, but none of them is better than...
I only have Rosa out of these 3
Won't her B move drain ET duration faster?
gloomy cradle
Need help with battle challenge round 2 of the Pokestar event , tried Karen's snarl and Wally's B Move to reduce sp Atk but still she does a lot of damage before I can debuff her fully , also trying to complete the dark and psychic. Quest
stable tundra
Tierno, Sabrina and a strong dmg dealer work better
gloomy cradle
Tierno, Sabrina and a strong dmg dealer work better
Hmm I thought the area details said to lower their sp Atk a lot , is that something I should ignore?
And in terms of physical DMG dealer my best is probably SC Selene, should I use her
shrewd marten
And in terms of physical DMG dealer my best is probably SC Selene, should I use ...
Why does it have to be physical
stable tundra
Hmm I thought the area details said to lower their sp Atk a lot , is that someth...
only sides increase spatk, but with a strong dmg dealer you can neglect that
Selene is not a strong dmg dealer, but she has flinch
give it a try
gloomy cradle
Why does it have to be physical
Since Tierno debuffs phy def
frozen meteor
And how can it be faster
shrewd marten
Since Tierno debuffs phy def
Don’t need it so long as ur dps is strong enough if you have a good enough special unit it’s fine
proud marten
valid raft
This took a lot of para RNG
earnest panther
true lagoon
🐳
earnest panther
Not whale, literally just lucky with pulls
If i can get lucky with para, easy sub 30, this was just one of the attempts.
rotund oasis
5 sseconds? wew.
low coral
Max Moves don't take animation time
So they're the obvious approach to abuse
Riley might work as a budget Giovanni, although you'll lack MAX Double Down
Same for Dojo Gloria (a bit better, even, due to higher Attack, I think)
Although Dojo uses MAX Double Down 3 rather than Steelspike +100
warm haven
O ok Japan.
blue still having niches in 2024
its the first time i've seen someone abusing Party Crasher, thats nice
low coral
People used it on CS way back
As well as on Villa
Generally modes that you can finish with your first moves
snow spruce
Hey. Made a little summary for the current teams that have done all 7 UBs with the same roster (and one that did 6). Is the info correct or I missed something ? Thoughts on these ?
slate light
missing at least one from every one of those teams myself 
snow spruce
Also a random question - is it possible to do Palmer UB with Irida - NC Red - NC Blue ?
silver spruce
I’m still amazed at how good oleana is in all of these
valid raft
Also a random question - is it possible to do Palmer UB with Irida - NC Red - N...
I think it can work
true lagoon
Also a random question - is it possible to do Palmer UB with Irida - NC Red - N...
probably
low coral
Hey. Made a little summary for the current teams that have done all 7 UBs with t...
Red / Irida / Chase also have done all of them
forest root
Red / Irida / Chase also have done all of them
Which Red though? Because if it’s Tbolt Red then I dunno what I’ll do lmao
low coral
NC
forest root
Okay thank goodness I have him at 5/5
snow spruce
Red / Irida / Chase also have done all of them
Are the Red / Irida / Chase clears for first 4 UBs posted somewhere ? I've only seen Palmer-Lucy-Leon
low coral
Idts, but I can record them eventually
valid raft
Ropalme made a compilation of all the fights except Leon
low coral
That was for Cynthia
low coral
Thorton was once on in-game replays, it was a pre-sync
Darach I think I have recorded? It's a very easy pre-sync
Idt I recorded Argenta and Anabel, although I posted screenshots here
Oh wait, no, I do have Anabel recorded, just never posted it
earnest panther
Hey. Made a little summary for the current teams that have done all 7 UBs with t...
the Oleana/SS Roxie/SS mina team comp will be the one team that will prove Master Fairs aren't the end all be all meta
valid raft
the Oleana/SS Roxie/SS mina team comp will be the one team that will prove Maste...
What if that team couldn't clear one UB 
calm summit
Yeah I’m prob just bad
grand herald
I'm still struggling with Anabel lol
calm summit
I don’t quadqueue very well. I just run it on 3x
shrewd marten
I also run on 3x
But if it’s easier you can slow it down during sync move
Or just use adrenaline
Or use cerena
shrewd marten
I'm still struggling with Anabel lol
Can you record wut ur doing? I could try to give you exact tips
grand herald
I will make another video. Posted one the other day but it wasn't best run. You can DM your tips 🙂
sour elk
Also a random question - is it possible to do Palmer UB with Irida - NC Red - N...
It would be close but I think it should be possible, SS Steven presyncs with just Rosa's EXR ramp, so I think the NC Red team should be able to pre-max
Chase-less NC Red has about the same output as SS Steven
As long as Empoleon gets denied I think there's a good chance
jade grotto
Even with best pairs in game I’m struggling
The best pair should be invested also, most pairs won't cut it at 1/5
low coral
K, I recorded the Cynthia version
I was actually being dumb and forgot Cynthia resummons field effects with her sync without limits, so I was always syncing with Red and making it much harder than it needed to be
rich heron
Who can I replace Cynthia with
grand herald
Can you record wut ur doing? I could try to give you exact tips
sent you the video in a DM
low coral
Who can I replace Cynthia with
NC Blue or Chase
rich heron
Ohk
rich geode
Is it possible to beat Leon's UB with SST Red and Pikachu, NC Blue and Zapdos and Variety Kris and Jolteon?
shrewd marten
Is it possible to beat Leon's UB with SST Red and Pikachu, NC Blue and Zapdos an...
Yeah
Well
Assuming their move levels aren’t just all one I think but maybe even then
low coral
Is it possible to beat Leon's UB with SST Red and Pikachu, NC Blue and Zapdos an...
It's a duoable battle, so yes, for sure, especially as Kris is a good third
silver spruce
Volkner would also be a decent third depending on level
low coral
Red and Blue are 1/5 there
shrewd marten
It's a duoable battle, so yes, for sure, especially as Kris is a good third
Wait it’s been flat out duod like ssmorty ncleaf?
low coral
Red / Blue have multiple duo wins lol
shrewd marten
Rly who
Although I guess I can see ssmorty ncleaf also duoing darach with enough patience
low coral
Red / Blue have done Darach, Lucy, and Leon
novel fog
Can this team work?
fading walrus
No other sand setter?
fading walrus
Bertha works really well for darach tbfh
novel fog
I haven't cleared anything but Argenta
fading walrus
Trap+ rocks + sand chip
novel fog
I'm just looking for a doable UB
fading walrus
Silver + bertha + a good third support could work well imo
novel fog
Aight let me try
fading walrus
Remember to reset sand only when it's really about to end
And also that in early sync cycles, chip is better than attacks
So focus on trap and rock with bertha asap
novel fog
Got you
stable tundra
be careful with move rotation when using Rosa's B Move
she is weak to Flying in Fighting sync forme
what move level is her btw?
fading walrus
Yeah especially in lategame, it's better to spam sync after he uses heat wave
stable tundra
i'm not sure if pre 3/5 NC Rosa can work
novel fog
Can't make it
novel fog
what move level is her btw?
3/5
I'm just spamming sing
Is any other UB beatable with my roster ?
fading walrus
NC leaf+ mix blue + godcerola/NC rosa can likely make something happen on Lucy
As long as sun is up NC leaf blocks status
stable tundra
SS Acerola/Adaman/Mix Red works on Argenta too
you can check the pinned doc to see which team you can replicate
fading walrus
They've done Argenta
novel fog
NC leaf+ mix blue + godcerola/NC rosa can likely make something happen on Lucy
Interesting, is there enough bulkiness in that team?
Leaf only gets access to 2 potions
fading walrus
I mean Lucy damage isn't crazy as long as speed is neutral or lowered
And SS ace "counters" aoe damage with grassy terrain team recovery + her own hp tic from bullet seed, which can have tripping strike on top
novel fog
I'll try it
novel fog
Well thank you it was pretty easy! @fading walrus
First Acerola EX then Leaf (EXR) then Acerola again to refresh GT for healing
Blue just spams B move
Okay what
Am I onto something
I just spammed Rosa TM on Leaf thrice before sync, had sun up, SEUN from Blue and she nuked for like 340k
silver spruce
Leaf is one of the best units for these UBs
novel fog
And Darach too
She had fire guard the entire time
Can this team work ?
I have seen SS Wally being used for nuking before, but I assume NC Leaf's nuke is stronger
stable tundra
You can try
fast pendant
leaf won't be able to keep debuffs by herself given palmer buffs a lot
silver spruce
Give it a go. It’ll probably be close but Mina can help extend through max move
spice basin
You also have less damage on Gladion since the rebuff isn't there
silver spruce
I think the odds are in your favor to clear Palmer with those three but you need to have the right grids and timing
novel fog
I'll see how it goes, I might not have proper gear and I'm out of stamina as well
silver spruce
Mina will want to sync just after Palmer does for sync wall and fairy zone
silver spruce
Good luck man!
novel fog
For his sync?
silver spruce
You can do that or grid for mpr and sync wall
silver spruce
Pick up fairy kingdom as well
novel fog
Yeah I have that
I'm just gonna drop Team sharp entry 1 for sync wall
Both Leaf and Gladion are self sufficient anyways
Once I get my Cerena to 3/5, will a 1/5 SS Lysandre be fine alongside her and SS Mina ?
For Anabel
slow sky
alright finally managed to record a clear with my team that is slightly less punishing on the MPR requirements but still RNG reliant nevertheless
dim lance
Korin is our new UB overlord
That's twice he's done comps that tosakinto failed to do
stable storm
I'm just looking for a doable UB
do you have ss hau or even lodge elesa?ss glad can do lucy quite easily with mina if you have good aoe speed lowerer
stable storm
https://youtu.be/ynv6FTJnpNo?si=iuNxhrpK7Z3IkAcm
lyssandre finally did something
on an ub that dahlia doesn't do matter
novel fog
do you have ss hau or even lodge elesa?ss glad can do lucy quite easily with min...
Lucy is done
snow spruce
Too bad that Serena-Dahlia-Mina comp couldnt do Leon, I really liked Dahlia on that team.
Lysandre works instead of Dahlia, but I dont think Serena-Lysandre-Mina can do all the other 6, so its over for Water for now
low coral
Cerena / LySS / Mina may be stopped by Argenta
If they beat Argenta, idt there's much stopping them all around
Anabel is easy, Thorton should be doable, Darach's easy, Palmer I believe is already done, Lucy shouldn't be too hard I think
eternal yacht
Anabel is easy, Thorton should be doable, Darach's easy, Palmer I believe is alr...
https://youtu.be/HRW3uL_LrmA?si=DmVpjuwiUOxLNOnv
Argenta can be done because appearantly Mina setting rain overrides the infinite rain
As Mina did in here too
silver spruce
It’s not the rain that’s the issue
low coral
I know Mina removes rain, my comment was taking that into account
silver spruce
It’s rebuff
eternal yacht
Serena has two rebuffs
silver spruce
How do you handle sides?
silver spruce
Unless you want to play with flabbergast chance on Mina
eternal yacht
Serena has flabbergast chance too
silver spruce
No idea. Don’t have her
low coral
Like this or with slightly lower power for Rainy Mind-Blowing Strike
snow spruce
https://youtu.be/HRW3uL_LrmA?si=DmVpjuwiUOxLNOnv
Argenta can be done because app...
Well yes, you CAN bruteforce Argenta like that .. Serena-Dahlia-Mina already did it.
I just dont think Serena-Lysandre-Mina can do it
low coral
If you expand 10 energy, you can just combine both grids
silver spruce
It looks doable
eternal yacht
Like this or with slightly lower power for Rainy Mind-Blowing Strike
Serena can afford Flabbergast