Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[crude marten]

i would run dps enabler grid for red

max conduct and para synergy

since ash will be taking the sync here

[warm haven]

Yeah

[fast pendant]

it's not worth it to sync with Blue 'cause he has no sync acceleration

[warm haven]

Im not sure about replacing Blue. With MPR he can give ash +4 SMUN + Rebuff

[crude marten]

chase gives smun too

[valid raft]

He also has SpMUN when he syncs

[crude marten]

and in exchange for more accels

[warm haven]

Yeah but SMUN on BTbolt is where it matters the most

[crude marten]

technically chase can also lower spdef but 4/5 5/5 grid

[fast pendant]

consider the difference between syncing with blue dealing no dmg and having an extra dmg sync in et 'tho

[valid raft]

Well, Chase has Kanto Circle Extension so you're going to deal significant damage with both Blue and Ash for a while

[fast pendant]

c'mon now, blue's dmg compared to red's

[warm haven]

If i had chase i would have tested it but i had no gems back then

[crude marten]

my sprint 🍰 is already booked for silver

[fast pendant]

I would need to check how much dmg palmer does to ash tanking

but with red and chase you get sure 3 turns from max move, sprint and early acceleration

[crude marten]

if he can trigger pinch push 3 it’ll be neat

but yeah its already too much accel

[valid raft]

Well, sides have EQ so most likely

[crude marten]

they didnt spam it

only few acient rocks before he syncs

iirc

[fast pendant]

we're talking before palmer syncs

[valid raft]

NVM, none of the sides have EQ

[crude marten]

post sync its giga impact with pblows

[fast pendant]

ash tanking could be relevant but it could also just not have any impact if the 2nd ancient rock comes when you're about to sync

[valid raft]

Hmmmm, Ash's Thunder deals around 34k with 4 sync buffs.
Only Kanto Circle, 0 SpMUN stacks and 0 Sp. Def. debuffs

[low coral]

Blue should always give less damage overall

[valid raft]

Maybe, but he helps Ash a lot

[low coral]

It's very little help overral in comparison to having Red

Since the rebuffs are nullifies by the lack of Terrain

And +2 SMUN ain't gonna be much

Since you're losing both DPS and Sp. Def debuffs

[valid raft]

Isn't -2 rebuff the same as a field?

[low coral]

Yes, which is why they're nullified, there's no gain there when comparing both, but Blue lacks his own damage

[valid raft]

Blue can heal, if that's ever important

[low coral]

It's not

[valid raft]

Are the sides that weak if Palmer doesn't sync?

[low coral]

I mean, if sides are the problem

That's another advantage to Red lol

[warm haven]

Replacing Red is not an option, but replacing blue is debatable

[valid raft]

I'd argue that Blue's healing and SpMUN stacking can be comparable to SST Red's damage

[low coral]

Blue's healing is pretty unlikely to be relevant there

Also, wdym SMUN stacking, you get a +2 once

[valid raft]

+3 and more if he gets TM MPR

[warm haven]

I wouldnt count on the one from the sync but you can fish for an mpr to +4 (+2) SMUN BTbolt

[low coral]

Sounds unreliable

[warm haven]

actually you could save blue sync for the last moment

[warm haven]

its 30%

[low coral]

Saving Blue's sync for the last moment would be a big damage loss

[valid raft]

Minimally, you can get up to 7 stacks of SpMUN if Ash triggers Initial Pinch Boost and this is without Blue's TM MPR

[low coral]

Since you lose the second rebuff the entire time

As well as you swap a potential sync nuke there for a +1 SMUN

[valid raft]

Well, Chase with EXR can help

[low coral]

As you'll already have accumulated Sync Buffs

Are you gonna Sup EX twice?

[valid raft]

For my plan, yes

And with Ash being first target, Blue's healing will be really essential because sides have things like Giga Impact and Hydro Cannon

Whilst also having guaranteed crit with Piercing Blows

[low coral]

Well, first we gotta see: you're tanking with Ash because you're hoping to Ancient Power to put you into PR range, right?

[valid raft]

Yeah

[low coral]

Giga Impact is 4x more powerful than Ancient Power

How do you hope to get into PR range with 2x Ancient Power but survive Giga Impact from full?

[valid raft]

Hmmmmm

[warm haven]

With damage guard

[valid raft]

I mean, sides don't have normal zone multipliers so yeah

[warm haven]

Anyways if you have blue there's no reason to tank with ash. Palmer sync gets ash to PR and there you can use BMove

[shrewd marten]

Damage guard doesn’t work btw

[warm haven]

wdym

[shrewd marten]

You’ll die

[valid raft]

Damage guard halves the damage right?

[warm haven]

From syncs yeah

[shrewd marten]

You’ll die

From the max move

Source

During battle rally I had x3 stats

I press damage guard

Everyone died

[valid raft]

Did you see the effect?

[shrewd marten]

Wut do u mean

Like did it crit me through damage guard?

[valid raft]

The damage guard sound effect

[shrewd marten]

Cuz that’s wut it looked like to me

Oh

I… am pretty sure I heard it

But damage guard doesn’t let you get crit does it

So maybe I heard wrong

[valid raft]

It still allows for crit, but the damage will still be halved

[shrewd marten]

Then I do think damage guard worked

Take it with a side of salt tho

[valid raft]

The only way to test this is on the BC on the Hop LA

With SS Leon using Eternabeam to a unit with damage guard

[final yacht]

or ss gio fight in VA, it's his first move with nidoking

[low coral]

Dang, not even grain, a whole side

[shrewd marten]

Yes

[valid raft]

Ok yeah, damage guard halves the damage from max moves too

[silver spruce]

I wonder if holiday Whitney will have any use in the Palmer EBE with crit shield and normal zone she may nuke okish

[valid raft]

Can't wait for JP players to utilize SS Mina + NC Blue

Or SS Mina + NC Leaf

@low coral I wonder, will SS Mina be potentially viable for Palmer along with an offensive debuffer?

[low coral]

Pretty unlikely

I wouldn't totally discard it, but it's not like the barrage of attacks is weak even when debuffed

[valid raft]

Also fully buffed defenses?

[low coral]

Yeah, no matter how you look, it's still a 4 Sync Buffs Giga Impact with 3+ PMUN

[warm haven]

Idt any comp that can resist that can actually clear palmer

[low coral]

Yeah, like, tanking Sync? Sure, I think we'll see that

Tanking Max? That's harder, but a big maybe

Tanking Giga Impact? I think if you get there, you're pretty much doomed

[valid raft]

Unless you somehow have a damage guard hidden

Which you can use with SS Mina

[low coral]

After the crit Sync and the crit max?

Even if you got the crit shield up

[valid raft]

You have her TM + Sync Wall

[low coral]

The Max is still there

With 4 sync buffs

[valid raft]

And SS Mina can replace normal zone

[low coral]

I mean, if you present something solid at least, I could see it, I just don't see how you plan on mixing both that and high offensive presence

[silver spruce]

Summer Hilda for topsy turvy shenanigans?

[low coral]

Because you're assuming that Max is also being tanked without Guard

And without Mina's Protect healing after their sync either

[valid raft]

NC Blue or NC Leaf can help fully negate his buffs, and both have healing too

[silver spruce]

He buddy too quickly for blue to keep up

Buffs

[valid raft]

And assuming NC Blue keeps on spamming Discharge, Palmer gets -2 or -3 attack

[silver spruce]

Who would he pair with Rats?

[fast pendant]

2 of your units so far are supps, what's your dmg source

[valid raft]

Depends

Obviously your most powerful fighting type like NC Hop, SC Diantha, Rei, etc.

Maybe you can use SST Red to take advantage of Blue's electric rebuff

And don't forget about Normal Guard too

[silver spruce]

Normal guard doesn’t work for max or sync moves

[valid raft]

Max moves probably won't be a big deal, it's the Giga Impact

[fast pendant]

lmao

max move kills your whole team

[valid raft]

Is that assuming even fully debuffed, maxed buffs and normal zone replaced?

[fast pendant]

yes

[valid raft]

With crit shield too?

[fast pendant]

to set crit shield and be up for both sync and max move

you need to have synced with mina right befor theirs

which means you're just not dealin dmg with a dmg dealer

[valid raft]

You mean right after

No no

[silver spruce]

Mina needs to sync after Palmer and quad queue her tm

[valid raft]

I misunderstand

[silver spruce]

Then b protect after

[valid raft]

Sync Wall

Maybe something like this:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=24010101&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhAREhUZGhwv&v1=000002002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDRAdICMlKSwt&v2=003401078800&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=24010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgwZHB0fICIlJyo

[fast pendant]

if by this point you're syncing with a supp

how do you expect to deal dmg to beat palmer

[valid raft]

Attrition

And hope for SS Mina's TM to MPR

[shrewd marten]

Stall Palmer leggo

Ncblue ssmina

[sour elk]

I still think Palmer will require to be hammered with a powerful tech nuke or B thunderbolt sorta burst to cleave some hefty 40% of his health at once near the end

[valid raft]

Sounds like you're implying that Palmer has Endurance

[fast pendant]

no, he's just saying that you need a high source of dmg to beat it

[valid raft]

Well yeah unless you're doing it the other route I see it, which is surviving it

[shrewd marten]

Liiiiiiive

[valid raft]

I wonder who can try NC Blue/Damage Dealer/SS Mina

With NC Blue and SS Mina having Normal Guard

[fast pendant]

normal guard is not doing anything for you

[valid raft]

Oh yeah, forgot Normal Guard is a mitigation passive

So what's the best LS for Blue and Mina?

I'm guessing Defense Crush or Mind Games for Blue

[fast pendant]

HS1

[valid raft]

Why HS1?

[shrewd marten]

Because no other passive is useful

So just zoom

[valid raft]

Nah, Defense Crush. Palmer has +4 defense

Better to make SST Red deal more damage while he's at it

[rotund oasis]

HS1 huh

[valid raft]

Oh and I just realized Electrorepulsion is useless for Blue

[rotund oasis]

Im waiting for palmer

[valid raft]

Eh
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=18040702&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhARGRocJScqLS8&v1=000002002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDRAdICMlKSwt&v2=003401078800&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=24010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFGRwdHyAiJCcqLC4xMw

[warm haven]

I made a NC Silver team for palmer

Then i forgot to reset and now i cant test palmer until saturday

[rotund oasis]

Wait defense crush on nc blue?.wouldnt hs1 be better? Sst red drops enemy defenses already

[valid raft]

Drop it faster in the early turns

[rotund oasis]

Hum

[warm haven]

Palmer also raises his own defenses

[valid raft]

^

[rotund oasis]

Gotcha

[valid raft]

Ancient Power 2x with X Defense All

[true lagoon]

mfw swag bag ancient power

[onyx cipher]

At my wits end with this. I don’t have NC Leaf or SS Morty. How can I beat this? It’s my final ultimate battle I have yet to beat.

[valid raft]

Why Elaine?

[onyx cipher]

Her tm keeps the team alive plus she’s an extra flinch chance

[valid raft]

Doesn't NC BLue flinch already?

[floral geode]

...so Kris/Irida/SC Jasmine for EBE Ethan then?

[onyx cipher]

Yes

[valid raft]

Elaine is definitely the most replacable on that team

[onyx cipher]

This team is the closest I’ve gotten with

[valid raft]

Potentially yeah

[floral geode]

Just know that my Kris is not EX'd

[onyx cipher]

Killed articuno but finally was killed by the side

[onyx cipher]

She is but there are so few character I have that can replace her as the tank

[valid raft]

NC Blue should be your main tank even if he's weak to ice

[onyx cipher]

He gets obliterated

He cannot face tank I have tried

[valid raft]

Show your roster

[onyx cipher]

Just gonna show supports

The rest of the supports I have I know won’t cut it

[valid raft]

I'd replace Elaine for a rain setter

Like NC Calem

[onyx cipher]

I guess that COULD work

The actually hardest part of this fight is needing a mixed attacker lmao

[valid raft]

Calem also gives dark zone when Serena's trying to nuke Thorton at 60% HP and below

[onyx cipher]

Yeah

[valid raft]

And Calem also has Team Safe Start for your team to have preemptive endurance

[true lagoon]

nc blue can tank thorton fine

as long as you have the attack drops gridded

[valid raft]

Did you use rain above 60% HP and dark zone below 60% HP?

[onyx cipher]

Cough

Hack

Sputter

Water…. Need…. Water….

I messed up on the sides and I was still clicking dark sync when water would have secured the win

Calem ended up solo tanking at the end and clutched it

Hate.

[valid raft]

Now time for Palmer

[onyx cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/bryan-cranston-malcolm-in-the-middle-hal-wilkerson-serious-face-serious-gif-22454436

[floral geode]

nope

I can't get to keep Irida alive

she's guaranteed to die to the third earthquake

which happens way before the enemy does their first sync

[valid raft]

Are you giving her H. Jasmine's TM?

[floral geode]

oh, I am using SC Jasmine instead of H Jasmine

since H Jasmine is Ground-weak

[valid raft]

People have used H. Jasmine as the main tank

[onyx cipher]

This whole experience has just further cemented NC Blue and Serena as number 1 and 2 in the game for me

[valid raft]

DeNA has Kanto bias and I'm not complaining

[onyx cipher]

Serena just does everything you need and offensive character to do whilst supporting through her sync and debuffs

And blue just makes you immortal

[floral geode]

okay, swapped SC Jasmine with H Jasmine

I can now beat the middle and the left side

but I still die to the right side

and that's still only Part 1 of this stupid Ethan EBE

[valid raft]

Do you have any Chewy Lucky Cookies?

[floral geode]

I do, actually

what to do with them?

[valid raft]

Choose a weather setter and give them either ground of fire guard

Maybe Ground Guard since EQ is more painful than Heat Wave

[valid raft]

You're using Kris/Feraligatr as the damage dealer right?

[floral geode]

yeah, I am

[valid raft]

Is she EX-ed?

[floral geode]

nope

[floral geode]

what's funny is that H. Jasmine dies first

and not to the Earthquake either

[valid raft]

Oh? It would've saved you so much time

And you probably have an abundance of 5* PU tickets and obviously Champion Spirits

[floral geode]

I have a shitload of Champion Spirits

[valid raft]

But if you don't want to EX her, then it's fine

[floral geode]

but not a lot of 5* PU tickets, actually

[valid raft]

How many?

[floral geode]

I only have 91 and 613

which is definitely not enough

[valid raft]

Really? I have 138 and 1147

[floral geode]

damn, how do you have that many?

[valid raft]

I have 87 EX-ed units and only played this game for almost 2 years

[floral geode]

I have 71 EX'd units and am playing the game since launch

[valid raft]

Ok, back on topic

@floral geode If you're willing to, you can do this clear.
https://youtu.be/MFOxjVyfjEk?si=BvCK41ATwkcRMt5O

[floral geode]

can't check video right now, is that the team you suggested to me or a different one?

[valid raft]

It's H. Jasmine/Kris/May

[floral geode]

ah

I do have May

but I dunno if May can survive

[valid raft]

Well, if you look at the video, you can see how she survives

[obsidian monolith]

I’m not really sure why, but in Sabrinas psychic battle, my strike and tech pairs get insta killed while my supports tank it fine. This is even after I buff spdef and def to max. Am I missing something in the rules or abilities?

[valid raft]

First of all, go to #1128052735967764621
Secondly, Sabrina has a modifier that lowers the stats of strike units thereby making them completely weak and insignificant

[obsidian monolith]

Oops wrong channel mb

[obsidian monolith]

Thank you!! I knew I was missing something

[floral geode]

welp, tried it with H. Jasmine/Kris/May

and I still get the same results as before: can beat mid and one of the sides

but the other side kills me

...does Kris really HAVE to be EX'd?

[valid raft]

You can probably rely on H. Jasmine TM and Potion MPR

[floral geode]

I literally did

and still

...I really do not want to EX a sync pair JUST for an EBE tbh...

[echo atlas]

Wait is this in rally?

Also I wonder what could the NC Silver team be

[warm haven]

Yeah, unboosted Rally

I'll record it with the og UB

(this one is boosted only with the base boost)

[inner robin]

Any teams for part 2 of Hau? FTP or offregion

I don’t have much for fairy

[high harbor]

I DID IT
HOLY MOLY THE WHOLE DAY TRYING TO BEAT HIM

[peak mist]

if palmers stage is trying to encourage accel… hmmm…

Why am I tempted to attempt something like Riley, sstred, +1?

I’m gonna have to run some numbers to see if Riley’s ontype nuke does better than reds offtype one… I doubt it though, even if I use ssac.

[fading walrus]

It should

Because tbolts nuke gets mostly neutered by the gigas buffs

[true lagoon]

is losing cakewalk that bad

[warm haven]

Yeah it should, but only with zone so if you're using ssac only the first one will be stronger

[true lagoon]

he still has haymaker and innate

[fading walrus]

Cakewalk?

You also lose the defence debuffs

[warm haven]

Red has a low atk stat

[fading walrus]

Tbolt is used to -6 Def and speed maxing out his nuke

[warm haven]

and well, riley is ontype

[fading walrus]

Without both his nuke plummets in value if compared to ontypers

[shrewd marten]

Red is a tanky boi

That alongside his piercing blows is his secret sauce to being permanently relevant

Now that both those things are irrelevant in the face of the super saiyan

Not that he won’t show up in clears

I’m sure he will

[true lagoon]

oh right 336 attack is fairly low

[fading walrus]

Geeta almost breaks 600

[shrewd marten]

Kuru

[peak mist]

i feel like the hard part of the Palmer puzzle if i can beat it is gonna be getting riley to smack hard enough to get progress... bleh

starting to think ssac might not even be worth the time here, due to setup time for riley, but... the fighting zone is pretty valuable too...

cause i cant think of a team that doesnt end up with these two together with my box

swag bag 9 ancient power reaaally throwing me out of my element

i could see ncrosa being used here.... but idk what id use with her + riley yet

[fossil fjord]

I'm gonna try gym gloria (mine is 3/5)

I don't have faith in the DPS tho

[silver spruce]

I've been comtemplating her with riley as a max bomb duo

Left her max knuckle after cynthia's sync, then follow riley, you should be able to almost get the full sync acceleration

[fossil surge]

yall think riley + ssa cynthia + nc rosa could beat palmer?

[silver spruce]

You'd need the role cake for riley

[fossil surge]

hm okay

i think that's possible in the forseeable future

[silver spruce]

Riley wouldn't take out the sides

[fossil surge]

he's my only ex strike

so no competition

[silver spruce]

Rei's advantage over riley is B-Move hitting everyone

[fossil surge]

no rei😔

i'd be a dummy to not use rei over riley

[silver spruce]

I take it no hop or diantha either?

[fossil surge]

nc hop? nah

and no sc diantha either

the one with keldeo is sc right?

[silver spruce]

yeah

[fossil surge]

the next best thing i have is like, bea

[silver spruce]

We'll see, I'm sure people will cook up some insane clears that don't use some of the MFs. However unlikely that is

[fossil surge]

yeah true

im just kinda hopeful since there was some speculation that my box could do darach, and seeing how simple(...?) palmer is + him being fighting weak i have hope once again

[silver spruce]

Palmer is more straightforward but feels more restrictive for unit usage it seems

[true lagoon]

palmer is a dps race

[fossil surge]

ah okay

hi taiyo

[true lagoon]

hes very straightforward in what he demands but not many units are able to fulfill that

[silver spruce]

It seems Rei, SC Diantha, NC Hop, and maybe Riley are the main contenders for damage

[warm haven]

no chance

[fossil surge]

womp womp

[crude marten]

double support is a no go for palmer probably

rei and hop might get a pass but still unlikely

[silver spruce]

Might be easier just to go triple offense

[warm haven]

Yeah it's better triple dps than double support

[valid raft]

Well, I tried to off-region with SS Gladion on Penny, I managed to KO the sides with his B Move, but his regular Fleur Cannon is weak

Oh man, I really wished there was LG right now so I can farm deluxe cookies

[valid raft]

Finally

It seems that SS Wally's sync nuke was key

[subtle veldt]

Who should be the last sync pair for this battle?

Here’s my roster

[valid raft]

Rebuff unit

[stone scarab]

Best option i can see in there is NC Red. You'd need to not sync with him until the Suicune drops below 50% though

[subtle veldt]

Ok bet

[fair sorrel]

Palmer next reset

[craggy wind]

Palmer tomorrow

[craggy wind]

This will be difficult to pull off

[rotund oasis]

My 2 Rats and a Bird aare waiting.

🙂

[final yacht]

That wont work

[valid raft]

Where Chase?

[rotund oasis]

Ash, Chase and Zapdos

[stone scarab]

i would not trust any dual support comp in this fight if im entirely honest

[stable tundra]

or not using supports at all this is a damage race

[valid raft]

SS Mina + NC Blue tho

[stone scarab]

Yeah, idt there's a single damage dealer i would trust to do 550k damage to an enemy alone pre-sync

[valid raft]

I know that Ash can

Or close to it

[floral geode]

Welp, back to the Ethan EBE grind

[grizzled portal]

Running an irida comp I imagine?

[crude marten]

finally

[fading walrus]

Are both rats 1/5

?

[crude marten]

3/5

this took more try than it should

[fading walrus]

Yeah definitely shouldn't be a hard clear

[crude marten]

its a presync i need the flinch rng

[final yacht]

Any idea on what to replace the On Type column in the UB doc with ? The idea was that on type clears should be easier but it's kinda wrong so it's pretty useless

[warm haven]

What about total amount of candies

imo 1/5 mf is more accessible than 5/5 pf

[fair sorrel]

So were Ash, SST Red and NC Blue been told that they can clear Ethan EBE? I found a video they can clear it but the game in Japanese.

[grave pendant]

@valid raft Hey wasn’t your rat/electric bird clear for Ethan?

[valid raft]

No, mine was NC Blue/SST Red/Irida

[grave pendant]

Oh

[fair sorrel]

Let me double check if it’s part 2. Saw the video of it last night and seems it needs discharge flinch rng

Doesn’t seems to show if it’s part 2 or not.

[valid raft]

For certain, that is definitely part 2

Otherwise Inferno wouldn't have dealt 1000+ damage even with Fire Guard

[fair sorrel]

I was gonna post the video here but was made two days ago so maybe someone sent the video in here already?

Oh it did. Never mind.

[valid raft]

Anyone tested Palmer with their respective teams in rally?

[grizzled portal]

I didn't get the chance yet

The one time I could, I had already used rei earlier for 2x boost

[sour elk]

I seem to remember @warm haven experimented with rats against Rally Palmer

[warm haven]

Yeah, Rats + NC Blue seems to work pretty well

Also tested Rei + NC Hop + NC Silver/NC Bede and they were able to clear palmer

[broken crag]

is 2 strikers nec3ssary?

[valid raft]

You'd want to output much damage as possible

Before Palmer does his sync

[warm haven]

Not sure but prob almost mandatory 2 DD

[broken crag]

im planning on running 3 sprints

[valid raft]

Unless you do what I said and use crit shield + debuffs

[broken crag]

with rei as main striker

[warm haven]

Rei is excelent against palmer, you just need a good nuker

[valid raft]

What if Rei is the nuker?

[broken crag]

i mean im gonna stack him with ss cyn and nc rosa

[valid raft]

His B Move can easily take out the sides

[warm haven]

Wont be enough

[broken crag]

all 3 on sprint

[warm haven]

It's no joke to use 3 damage dealers instead of 2 supports

[broken crag]

does thus mean i have to candy nc hop as well

[warm haven]

prob

[valid raft]

That's the team I plan to use

SSA Cynthia/Rei/NC Rosa

But it requires you to have HS1 on Cynthia and Rosa

[candid crescent]

gonna do irida , NCred, aura cyn and pray it works

[broken crag]

hmm thats no problem then

[valid raft]

Do you know how to quadqueue NC Rosa's TM?

[broken crag]

no

[valid raft]

If you can't quadqueue Rosa's TM, then the only other option is to grid Rei for HS1 and NC Rosa for Adrenaline, but you lose damage in doing so

[final yacht]

quadqueue on rosa's tm is the same as any quadqueue tho isn't it ?

[broken crag]

^

[valid raft]

She has transformation when she syncs

And it's delayed

[final yacht]

I don't time my click, I just spam

so it doesn't matter for me

[valid raft]

I always have a feel of the timing

Or try to

[spice basin]

Same, I've been struggling to perfect Rosa's timing

[fossil surge]

Could riley + bea + ssa cynthia/nc rosa potentially clear palmer?

[valid raft]

I've gotten it a few times

[spice basin]

same it works sometimes and then other times I miserably fail

[warm haven]

dont think so

[valid raft]

It's all just timing

[fossil surge]

Womp wonp

[warm haven]

this is aprox 30% of palmer hp after 2 syncs

[valid raft]

How many sync buffs and the other factors?

[fossil surge]

I prob can't do it rn but can I send my roster anyways and see if we can come up with smth?

[warm haven]

3 sync buffs, all stats at -6 (that it's hard to get because of SB9)

[valid raft]

5 sync buffs, 6 PMUN stacks, -6 defense and -1 rebuff

[warm haven]

Oh i forgot i had SEUN activated too

[warm haven]

i asume thats with SSAC and NC Rosa right

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-correct-sir-hades-hercules-thats-right-gif-17484286

The RNG game here will be proc-ing Rosa's TM MPR

[warm haven]

yeah solo hop is not making it

[valid raft]

Since it's only 20% chance

With SC Steven instead of NC Rosa

For easier PMUN stacking

[warm haven]

Thats better

the problem will be the sides tho

[valid raft]

B Move and strike EXR

[valid raft]

His B Move is AoE

[valid raft]

And this is only with 1 target too

Against Palmer only

[final yacht]

changed the presentation a bit (mainly to have more columns so I don't have to manually sort lol)

[valid raft]

Makes me want to go all the way for SC Steven even without pity

Why does it feel like SC Steven is one of the best units for Palmer, even better than NC Rosa?

[final yacht]

Well Rosa gives -1 rebuff on turn 2, Steven does the same on turn 1 and also lowers defense

[valid raft]

Well, SC Steven gives more PMUN stacks than Rosa and also gives SEUN

[warm haven]

ooh i thought it was hop, true

Yeah steven is better than rosa here for physical units (99% of good fighting types)

he can even tank palmer before sync

[valid raft]

I misread

But yeah

[warm haven]

i misspelled too

[slate bison]

tbf no one is dying to 2 Ancient Power

so the tanking thing is a bit whatever

[final yacht]

now it'll look like this

only on Anabel and Palmer yet tho, it takes ages to change everything

[warm haven]

take your time but it's looking good

[silver spruce]

Honestly kinda nervous about Palmer

[final yacht]

TIL Palmer has a Defense mitig of 3

[true lagoon]

so isnt that just pushing for rei even more

[final yacht]

yeah

[true lagoon]

cuz he has oar and guaranteed def down on b move

[final yacht]

SC Steven too

[true lagoon]

hm how does geeta’s b move unlock again

cuz she does -3 each use

[final yacht]

when an opponent is poisoned

geeta roxie oleana gaming

[true lagoon]

ah so geeta can get negative defenses pretty easily then

[final yacht]

yup

[sour elk]

Finally some good news, I thought he had 5 like everything else

[peak mist]

regarding palmer, do we think 1/5 NCRosa will get mileage in the fight? since we're capped at like 7-8 turns before max move murks us im just still trying to think about what i can do to make riley maybe work...
...i wonder how bad of an idea Geeta, Rosa, Riley would be. how many buffs does Palmer get to his defenses?

alternatively if i get him on my next multi or so, i could use nc silver for third slot

[true lagoon]

ancient power is +2

[peak mist]

so he's gonna ancient power twice?

sorry just trying to make sense of his move order since i only got him once in rally

[stone scarab]

yeah, he has two uses in the first sync cycle

[peak mist]

i just assumed it was three, that makes things a bit easier to plan around... i prob miscounted the turn order in my head then last night.

i assume the sides mostly use tms or something presync?

[stone scarab]

items, yeah

[warm haven]

Rosa 1/5 should be enough

Im not very familiar with her but i think she + rei + riley could work

[peak mist]

his sync countdown starts at 6 like most bosses i assume...
so i assume the fight looks like ancient power > x defense or x spatk all > ancient power > x attack all > ...something...? > another tm ? > sync > max
...idk what the last slot is...

[peak mist]

Does this sound about right to you guys so far? Not sure if ode to glory can be reliably queued in or not, but I'm getting a feeling I use knuckle for damage instead of countdown rush...? Unless maybe not?

Might be skip teeter dance, ig, but idk

mainly have it written there atm to line up going to fighting form on sync

[warm haven]

who's the 3rd

[peak mist]

that im unsure of. likely another master fair.

i get enough gems for my next silver multi tonight so, it could be him theoretically if he'd be any good here

in a couple weeks i'll have another cake formed, too. for any role.

my first idea is to try geeta

[crude marten]

think your best shot is offtyping with red and irida

[rotund oasis]

Neo Champion Hop could be good.

[peak mist]

dont own chop, as you can see in images.

[rotund oasis]

sadlife.

[crude marten]

if you have extra tech

support is flex options you can run ssac or rosa

[peak mist]

ive got 1 strike candy and 3 yellow

[crude marten]

but yeah seems like nc red will be your main dps and nuker

[warm haven]

You could wait to see if Red + Irida can beat palmer but im not sure

[stable tundra]

Palmer needs aggressive dmg dealers, but i dont have high hope for NC Red without Chase

[crude marten]

chase will be the fastest but considering khakus run from before i think ssac and rosa can do it

[warm haven]

But actually i think your best bet would be NC Serena

[peak mist]

+2 omnibuff makes cerena harder to use i think

[stone scarab]

Not particularly

[peak mist]

and +4 on 3 diff stats

[warm haven]

Well it's only 2 APs

[crude marten]

serena will have troubles with sides considering their roster

[stone scarab]

She still has a 5 hit move that debuffs on every hit

[warm haven]

frogs + SS Serena seems solid

[crude marten]

you could try but idt thats possible

the sides will be the biggest problem for cerena comp

ss kris cerena and lyss might be able to do it with hs/adr

[peak mist]

dont own lyss or kriss

[warm haven]

NC Calem is better for this particuar fight

[crude marten]

yeah just saying thats the possible comp for water

[peak mist]

skipped kriss for ncblue

cause the two were filling similar roles on release of ncblue

barring weather

im also gonna prob toy with the idea of sstred, even if hes out of his environment with +4 defense and such.

[warm haven]

red can help Cerena with the debuffs too

and with sides

[peak mist]

my first idea with red is honestly geeta with a debuff+poison dmg build, and with like a third damage that wont pressure gauge much

cause i think theres a world where that could actually work

its worth a try at least, cause geeta and red together answers all those defense buffs going back to -6

[peak mist]

question boils down to who can keep up with sstred and geeta... its not terrible on gauge but its still not great

maybe cerena isnt bad still... but uh, idk

dunno who id be syncing with first yet either way unless i bring a supp sync or sprint sync

...just realized i cant use geetas debuff set and reds set together, woop

maybe geeta not the best

https://tenor.com/view/gon-freecss-wondering-thinking-gif-13705323

feels like this rn with the amount of thinking im trying to do here haha

[warm haven]

wdym those are two of the best pairs at gauge management

[peak mist]

i guess yeah, it still doesnt stop the para + poison conflict tho lmao

wouldnt be able to activate ruthless toxin

or toxic power

without gimping reds bmove

[warm haven]

i now actually think those dont work together

If they're poisoned red cant debuff anything

[peak mist]

yeah, and geeta wants them poisoned for her grid tiles

[warm haven]

If they're paralyzed geeta cant use her bmove

[peak mist]

that too

cant st poison with that team

bleh

i guess cerena ncred might have to be the core

lets see... ...serenas bmoves should at least cancel out the +4 defense... so it shouldnt be too hard to set red up off that...

[warm haven]

Red is the one helping Cerena

-1 def -1 spdef -1 speed each turn

[peak mist]

cerenas nuke is bigger i assume then?

[warm haven]

yeah, and with frogs you get rebuff and rain

[peak mist]

question is if calems better than like, May or something, then. right? if the gauge can handle that, that is.

[warm haven]

Red has basically MGA while ET is active, and he and Cerena have 2 bars moves, gauge wont be a problem

Calem gives you rain (+50% sync damage) and 15% extra MP

The only pair i could think that can improve that is Dahlia

[peak mist]

so far then if im ignoring reds nuke, looks like this possibly

forgot to mark exr in app, woops

(+ themes and such )

reds got +6 nrg btw

havent done serenas yet but i prob will at some point, but waiting till i actually need it for a grid

[shrewd marten]

Guys

When is Palmer actually here to beat our ass

[peak mist]

tonight

this reset coming up brings him and whodunnit rerun p1

[broken crag]

wouldve been nice if dena lowered his hp to 300k something

so that his gimmick of killing him before sync would be more manageable

[peak mist]

does this have a chance?

hoping it wont come to sync in first place for sake of if sides alive but

idt can fit a third sync with this team

in the 8 turns given

(ofc this order is assuming i understand what his fight's gonna do correctly)

[crude marten]

skipping soften up 🤝

[peak mist]

i mean, who needs it when theres bp to gain in a UB

palmers fight is more of a puzzle than a resetfest anyway, so im fine with a few resets to get it right

im basically taking the "puzzle fight" type of approach cause this is the UB with the most controlled environment yet

[left crow]

Just to clarify, does each ub have a unit that can hard counter it?

[peak mist]

after adding in the relevant stat debuffs barring unfort strike rng, btw, if i understand the fight right, itll look something like this

[peak mist]

most of them do, but some of them harder than others

youll still have to think a bit on argenta for example even if you have adaman

same with on anabel with cerena + kriss but its not that deep

cerena on her own though in anabel, yeah have to think

counterwise darach has the widest options

[left crow]

I have cerena and kriss yet can't beat anabel yet lol

[left crow]

Theory wise, it's made against ss diantha right?

[peak mist]

cause as long as you keep a WTZ up, darach is relatively neutered

[peak mist]

theoretically, yes. reality, worse than rats

if anything nc silver / paulo counter darach harder

[left crow]

I still have to beat argenta and anabel

I have the units to beat them it's just, idk

Lol

[peak mist]

the pins have teams with vids and pomatool grids and the like

for if you need stuff to compare to

[crude marten]

its probably made for silver

but they realized the fight isnt demanding so they released it earlier

the fight asked for sandstorm and damage field

[peak mist]

im really glad they gave us a break rather than throwing us into another--...
uhhh, i just realized something

whos in charge of the pinned ub doc again?

[stone scarab]

maelmc

[peak mist]

@final yacht sorry but uh, i literally just noticed this is saying the wrong fight title

( im honestly a bit baffled that its that when this fights multiple months old now )

for whatever reason darach and argenta also dont have those sorts of title bars, but eh

[rotund oasis]

you gonna nuke with NC Serena? :o?

[peak mist]

yea, gonna attempt to

[warm haven]

That looks good

[rotund oasis]

Lol CS2 NC Calem

is NC Serena EX Role'd?

[dim lance]

So is Palmer essentially undoable within Rei Hop

[broken crag]

gonna try this and see how it goes

[left crow]

Welp

[crude marten]

2 offtype team that have high chance of clearing is ice and electric

tbh i expected more teams able to do it

poison, fairy, water might be able to do it

[peak mist]

yeah mines exrd

sorry that i didnt get back to it sooner, i was playing kirby air ride with my bro, along with mario superstar baseball

recently got back into playing the gamecube with my bro

[rotund oasis]

lol

that's fine

[valid raft]

It's time

[rotund oasis]

imma do the events first

[low coral]

Clear 1 done

[valid raft]

Huh

[rotund oasis]

1/5 Chase? D:

[valid raft]

3/5 if I had to guess

[rotund oasis]

rough

[low coral]

3/5 EXR

[crude marten]

this is the fastest ub time for me

[rotund oasis]

ugh

[crude marten]

less than 2 mins clear time

[low coral]

But I'm not sure if that even is necessary

[valid raft]

I'm still waiting to see SS Mina + NC Blue clear

[rotund oasis]

Head Start 1?

[crude marten]

noone use hs

[rotund oasis]

hmmm

adrenaline or CS2?

[crude marten]

1/5 rei is plenty

cs2

the fight ends really fast

[rotund oasis]

Gotcha.

[crude marten]

ill upload in a min

[rotund oasis]

I dont have Rei 😦

Riley seems like the better push i suppose.

[crude marten]

riley def can clear

[rotund oasis]

EXRd?

[valid raft]

Is that Hop's damage?

[rotund oasis]

inertia so yeah

[rich heron]

How did u do that
He killed me in his first sync

[gentle wharf]

Yeah don’t think I can beat Palmer with my roster lol

[crude marten]

sync yeah

[crude marten]

kill before sync

i think sc steven riley ssac can work?

[spice basin]

Double support

[spiral summit]

Done, 300k with B move is feeling so good

[rotund oasis]

did ya sync with both sups?

[spice basin]

I think I'll do NC Rosa + Rei + SC Steven

[stone scarab]

1/5 Rei got me the clear with Rosa and Hop, neat

[low coral]

https://youtu.be/n_08sjgTLa0?si=u4oK7JDu2upolZn_

[stone scarab]

sprint pairs definitely feel really nice for this

[rotund oasis]

Hmm

Okay i think i'll do NC Rosa, NC Hop and Riley :x

[gentle wharf]

Really?

[slow sky]

dang, cant down him fast enough for NC Hop, NC Rosa and SC Diantha

he lives with a silver of hp

[crude marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXCzbOxQaM

[tame canyon]

No matter what, Palmer will always land crits right?

[slow sky]

yup

[gentle wharf]

Nah just tested it out can’t get it to work

[valid raft]

Unless you use crit shield

[gentle wharf]

Dammit

I lack Rei AND Chop

[rotund oasis]

hmmm

[gentle wharf]

No Irida either

[low coral]

For anyone who wanted to see post-sync Palmer

[gentle wharf]

No Chase no ST Red hmm

[tame canyon]

Do the sides always crit as well?

[valid raft]

Yes

[crude marten]

full rats couldnt presync?

[gentle wharf]

Yeah think I’ll just give up

[crude marten]

its a strong maybe

riley might need cake for aoe though

[dim lance]

Even if you do

[crude marten]

sc steven can speed up riley

[low coral]

Well, I just first tried it, recorded it, and posted it

[crude marten]

and seup on sync

[silver spruce]

Has anyone got a fighting clear yet for palmer?

[crude marten]

i see

[low coral]

But my gameplay didn't particularly have obvious flaws I think, if anything, I could change approach with targeting or using Kanto Circle more for sync

[stone scarab]

im trying to record one but i keep failing quadqueues

[low coral]

What could truly changed things is if Red had Head Start 1 and Chase moved from Head Start 1 to Adrenaline 1

That would keep my Sync Cycle and still give me Kanto Circle Sync for Ash

[spice basin]

SC Steven/Rei/NC Rosa do the job

[silver spruce]

Closest I've come has been Rei, Cynthia, Diantha

[low coral]

Or if my Chase was more than 3/5 for more grid energy

[dim lance]

I actually tried uhh

[silver spruce]

got him down to like 20%

[dim lance]

Anabel Mina

[stone scarab]

Hop Rei Rosa for me

[spice basin]

I tried triple rats, I can take down mid, but the rock slides killed me

[dim lance]

And you can actually survive

[spice basin]

Didn't try again yet

[dim lance]

Max strike

[viral canyon]

Steven 1/5 doable?

[dim lance]

Pretty comfortably lmao

[silver spruce]

?

[viral canyon]

SC Steven 1/5 doable?

[low coral]

Well, surviving Max Strike with that team was expected, the problem more so was finishing the stage after it

Since you're left with a solo damage dealer

[spice basin]

Yeah SC Steven is just giving PMUNs + Rebuff

[viral canyon]

Not you, sorry

[spice basin]

Rei needs to be at least 3/5, Rosa needs EXR

[low coral]

https://youtu.be/8yFiI3_pdf0?si=ORW9ZVeeGMAydT0h

[silver spruce]

I'm missing the 3/5 chase sadly

[true galleon]

yeah this ub needs rei

[silver spruce]

:/

[onyx cedar]

https://youtu.be/pzbECLccPuw

[silver spruce]

Thanks

[onyx cedar]

I'll test it out with Riley later

wut

[silver spruce]

That video will give me the clear

[onyx cedar]

my team only has 1 EX Role (Rei) at 3/5

[low coral]

I just posted 2 off-type teams

[viral canyon]

Bro, that is a must. If someone did it 1/5, I will report for cheater

[onyx cedar]

and used regular gear for it since it is just on-type

[true galleon]

no rats or birds for me

[crude marten]

someone did it with ss hau ash blue

i havent seen the replay

[hearty cedar]

Sides have sure crit???

[crude marten]

all of them have clutch critical i think

1/5 rei ontype is kinda crazy

wait i send the wrong pic

[wary hemlock]

nope palmer i cant beat it

[kind wasp]

I was not expecting it to be this easy, first try

[wary hemlock]

lol ssa cynthia useless here?

[kind wasp]

Dont have her

[hearty cedar]

I can kill palmer but those criting sides are killing me

[kind wasp]

1/5 CHop, 3/5 EXR Rei and Rosa

So uh yeah

[gentle wharf]

First time since I got SSACynthia that I wished her fighting zone was on demand and not on sync lol

[rotund oasis]

AARGH

painful what the heck

[stone scarab]

1/5 Rei, 3/5 Hop and 3/5 EXR Rosa for me

also i just realised i used Rei without a grid at all

oops

[onyx cedar]

I used SSA Cynthia hmmm

is more about how you make the team there

[gentle wharf]

You also have Rei so I can’t use your team

[stone scarab]

anyway, record a couple times, fail a quad queue with Rei, switch lucky skill to Adrenaline to not have to quad queue, succeed with quadqueue anyway

[onyx cedar]

yeah, I'm thinking how to use Riley there

[stone scarab]

truly a poma moment

[onyx cedar]

I also used SC Steven, which isn't that common either

[hearty cedar]

Without rei and chase, I can't beat this stupid ub thanks to sides always critting

[spice basin]

SC Steven + Rei + NC Rosa was mine

[wary hemlock]

i was thinking of using sc diantha

[gentle wharf]

LMAO all of the teams have 1 unit I’m missing

[wary hemlock]

but seems like its not working here

[tall escarp]

Uh oh, I hope I don't have to candy NCHop

[kind wasp]

I used the potion grid for rosa and the berrserker grid for rei which are the ones I just normally have it at glad I didnt have to candy chop just for this

[spice basin]

My team is in the replays

[tall escarp]

Is this the same as Rally where we gotta kill him ASAP

[stone scarab]

yes

[spice basin]

mhm

[tall escarp]

Okay at least it won't be long and drawn out

[stone scarab]

it is literally the same fight as rally, just with the stats lowered to compensate for the lack of boosts

[tall escarp]

Will the inflicted emotional trauma also be lowered?

[stone scarab]

no.

[gentle wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[tall escarp]

[rotund oasis]

ahhhhh

[valid raft]

I managed to get Palmer down to half with only 2/5 Rei, no grid

Which is honestly impressive

[tall escarp]

Gonna try 1/5 NCHop 1/5 Rei

Am cheap af

[spiral summit]

Everyone use only SSA Cynthia or NC Rosa for on type clear. Well makes sense bc NC Rosa just drains all Fighting Zone duration

[gentle wharf]

She sure does

[tall escarp]

Does NCRosa have Adrenaline 1 or am I gaslighting myself

[spice basin]

only via LS

[tall escarp]

Real

[stone scarab]

i wish she had that on her grid

[spice basin]

it would be so good

[valid raft]

2/5 with only Super Desperate and OaR

[tall escarp]

right

[valid raft]

It was unfortunate that fighting zone wore off when Rei did his B Move

[tall escarp]

Lmao

Easy clap

[spice basin]

I wonder if Wally/Gladion/Mina work for Palmer

[tall escarp]

1/5 NCHop 1/5 Rei

Just gotta clear post-sync (duh)

No Inertia hurts

[spiral summit]

I think Penny will be better than Mina in this team

Need more dmg

[spice basin]

I'll try both

[stone scarab]

yeah this isnt a fight where you really need to tank much

[spiral summit]

But i hear Mina can help team survive Max Strike

[tall escarp]

What is there beyond Max Strike?

[stone scarab]

Giga Impact and Rock Slide, mostly

the Empoleon has Blizzard

[tall escarp]

They're out for blood

[valid raft]

+4 PMUN Giga Impact

[spice basin]

Not enough damage with Mina/Gladion/Wally

[valid raft]

Hmmmm, I was able to get Rei's B Move within fighting zone but still not enougj

Palmer is like below 20% HP

[spice basin]

Wait can Palmer be confused?

[tall escarp]

Aight time to break out Nanu and HAcerola

[valid raft]

Does this look like an attempt that a 2/5 Rei would get?

[stone scarab]

yeah, should be able to

[spice basin]

Real meta team right there

throw in Anni Lillie for the master passive

[tall escarp]

Reject meta, accept Alola

[valid raft]

I need to farm CS2 on Rei

[tall escarp]

farm?

FARM?

[valid raft]

I think that would make all the difference

[tall escarp]

[valid raft]

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be grinding villa

[spiral summit]

Ew Villa

[low coral]

This one should be obvious to work, but still

[inner heath]

1/5 budget team
ER for Rei and Rosa
Headstart 1 on Steven, adrenaline on Rosa
Need to roll 2 atk buff for Rei

[rotund oasis]

did you nuke the sides or something o_o?

[crude marten]

pmun stacking

btriple arrow can delete sides

[rotund oasis]

ah right.

[hearty cedar]

Yep, i can't beat it with keldeo + hop + rosa

Sides destroy me after taking down palmer

[rotund oasis]

Strike EX Role for NC Hop when DeNa?

[crude marten]

1/5 rei is really made for this

[onyx cedar]

damn nice clear

[hearty cedar]

Will be bad bcuz of his nuke parameters

Well inertia and opp slowdown sync 5 is easy to setup anyway

[dim lance]

Do we have to pity Rei just to clear this shit kek

[inner heath]

I guess the gears help my dps a bit too
Unscathed for first 2 bmoves and pinch for the 3rd, plus critastrophe

[crude marten]

well there are already two offtype clear

ice and electric as expected

im pretty sure fairy could do it too with gladion ss wally penny/chase

[spice basin]

I'm trying the fairy core, SS Wally/Gladion/Mina doesn't have enough damage by the looks of it

[valid raft]

You'd need SpMUN stacks on Gladion

[crude marten]

slot chase or penny

sorry not mina

[viral canyon]

SS Gladion with NC Rosa+Iono

[spice basin]

Lemi try w Penny

[crude marten]

wally 3/5

[spice basin]

5/5

[crude marten]

i think first sync goes to wally > penny > wally

[spice basin]

No sync with Gladion?

[crude marten]

prob not

[spice basin]

I always give the first to Wally, yeah

So I should just go for one BMove

[crude marten]

mhm

should work unless it still lacks accel

[valid raft]

More like Penny ---> Wally ---> Wally ---> Gladion

[spice basin]

Nah

[rotund oasis]

i tried several teams already

still can't crack it.

sigh

The closest one i could get was NC Blue, Ash and SST Red

i just need like Sync Countdown or something orz

best i can do is to 3/5 + EX Role Chase

[uncut saffron]

Does palmer bypass this?

[gentle mural]

Had to give everyone Head Start lmao, pre-sync

[stable tundra]

he doesnt

[tall escarp]

Team Sprint

[inner heath]

any rilet clear?

[candid crescent]

being reiless is suffering

[tall escarp]

We make teams not miracles

[rotund oasis]

whoa D:

almost huh

[fringe stratus]

Maybe slot in nc rosa or a enhancing support instead of ssa cynthia?

The opponent bypasses defense and u dont abuse fighting zone anyways

Nc rosa, nc bede or other enhancing supports

[tawdry bone]

Once I get Aura Cynthia to 3/5 this'll be my team for palmer. Am I cooked?

[hearty cedar]

Somehow the 3 units I dont have are the very units that are making me unable to beat this guy

[hearty cedar]

Prettt much ye

[tawdry bone]

I'm so cooked.

[hearty cedar]

Sides have sure crits with p.blows

Mid is easy to kill

[fringe stratus]

That was me not having any frogs or ss kris back when anabel was released

[hearty cedar]

They really said F U to non-rei users

[rich heron]

Any Bea clear?

[hearty cedar]

I tried

[tawdry bone]

Is the ss kris method just those units lmao

[rich heron]

Wht happened then

[hearty cedar]

But that team is losing bcuz hop's smarty pants is nuking only at -2 sp.def

[rich heron]

I should have tried for Rei after Akari

[hearty cedar]

Welp, we can beat it 6 months later anyway

[rich heron]

How

[supple reef]

can keldeo do it

[tawdry bone]

Looks like my next unit from mix scout will be rei lmao

[tawdry bone]

What he said

[valid raft]

Definitely

[supple reef]

huh fr?

[rich heron]

Who

[supple reef]

i only see rei clears

[tawdry bone]

You

[low coral]

Have you expanded Irida's energy?

[supple reef]

keldeo 1/5 tho

[rich heron]

[low coral]

With 1 energy extra at 3/5, you can run Ramp Up 2 on her

[tawdry bone]

No

[tawdry bone]

What does that do

[rotund oasis]

i tried. only 180k damage. really needs to drop the stats to the max 😭

[rich heron]

Can piercing blows bypass crit shield

[onyx cedar]

nope

[rich heron]

Nice
Then chase can help

[tawdry bone]

Hear me out

[supple reef]

great

[tawdry bone]

He gets style points

[tidal kestrel]

We aint hearing 🤣

[tawdry bone]

Do you hunt them for fun

[tidal kestrel]

Jk jk

[rich heron]

Too many sync powerup tiles lol

[tawdry bone]

What are the better supports for this? Is it literally just ssrosa

[rotund oasis]

Its only really Smarty-Pantss, Def Down (Innate), and Inertia

[rich heron]

Innate also

[spice basin]

NOOOOO

[rich heron]

Striker ex role soon

[spice basin]

That last fleur cannon would've killed him

[rotund oasis]

1 sliver of health

[crude marten]

how about penny > wally > wally

maybe that could work

[spice basin]

Penny wasn't working out, I need more time

Mina lets me tank the max

[crude marten]

oh zone duration?

[spice basin]

No I mean just more time to do damage

I can get 2 BMoves from Gladion off with this team

[tawdry bone]

If dena was smart they'd rerun the solutions to these EBs

[radiant edge]

https://youtu.be/XWv10SeSENM?si=94HOmubfraoKQq6b

[spice basin]

Are their moves set or random? I can't just pray for a better rotation can I

[tawdry bone]

Imagine a rei banner rn

[radiant edge]

Even with Sprint effs I still needed to quad queue lol

[crude marten]

well rei is on select

[rich heron]

No money

[silver spruce]

I'm getting close with SC Steven, Rei, Alt. Gloria

[radiant edge]

Good thing bout this battle is no healing needed

[rotund oasis]

i aint about to drop more money to grab Rei 😦