Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[novel fog]

Don't think I can beat it

That's it

[inner heath]

I was lucky when I beat this with 1/5 team, usually it took 1-2 days with the rng but this one took me like 2-3 hours back then

[novel fog]

All were 1/5??????

[inner heath]

not this exact team but yeah 1/5 ncleaf anni N and ncblue

[novel fog]

...

That's nowhere close

I just need to get Leaf to 3/5 I guess

[inner heath]

she's meta in many modes so it's not like you candy her only for this

[novel fog]

Yeah for sure

[fast pendant]

when you say this do you know your team is much better? just to be sure

[novel fog]

Is it 😭

[fast pendant]

yes

[novel fog]

HOW CAN I STILL NOT CLEAR THIS STAGE THEN

Do I suck hard

[fast pendant]

you literally chocked a win

[novel fog]

I've been trying to clear this one for like

6 hours?

I'm not sure if I should sync twice with red

They get pretty low anyways from the blizzards

[fast pendant]

if that's how you feel, adapt your gameplan

[novel fog]

I've been doing
leer -> relic song -> red tm
leer -> relic song -> blizzard
leer -> ice beam -> sync with rosa
leer -> ice beam -> relic song
leer -> blizzard -> rosa tm -> sync with red

Which did work pretty well

[fast pendant]

using ice beam before sync is a big mistake

[novel fog]

the two ice beams are just to interrupt triple axel

[fast pendant]

you're not denying anything and you put them in resilience

[novel fog]

and the other move

[novel fog]

I did not

Oh the first one denies the triple axel

I have 5 SMUNs when I sync

[shrewd marten]

Wait ncleaf is 1:5?

Then just sync for rebuff and cake ex

[true lagoon]

actually what about 3/5 ny wallace for darach

has anyone tried that

[shrewd marten]

I did darach with ncleaf adaman ssmorty

[novel fog]

And keep red alive over leaf ?

[shrewd marten]

Just replace adaman with ncleaf should be the same

No I just mean that her sync isn’t as powerful as I was saying before

Cuz you don’t have power play

[novel fog]

Yes, I know

She still hits like a truck

But yeah

3/5 is a massive upgrade

[jade grotto]

Had to give Bertha mp refresh for stealth rock to beat darach

At least I've finished all the UB

Wondering for who was darach tailored, I would say NC silver, but it can't set stealth rock so I don't think is him

[true lagoon]

its supposed to be for ss diantha

but shes iffy

[jade grotto]

But ss diantha doesn't set stealth rock either

I mean I ended up using NC silver, SS diantha and Bertha

I mean there aren't much units that set stealth rock, so I don't think is 100% tailored for some specific limited units

But ss diantha and NC silver definitely work well against him

Or is sandstorm enough to counter darach?

[warm haven]

it was made for lodge steven

[jade grotto]

Unironically 6ex lodge Steven can work I think

His DPS is a joke but his nuke is quite good

[inner heath]

I cleared with lodge steven, thought more players would use him but only seen a few clears with him

[jade grotto]

Ofc I'd you have NC silver and ss diantha those are better options to clear with

[inner heath]

kek only 1 steven clear in the doc

[jade grotto]

Considering he can give himself seun, his nuke is one of the strongest rock type nukes on type

At least factoring seun

If og Steven released later i'm pretty sure meteor mash would have been a 4 gauge move

[warm haven]

yeah lodge steven was overlooked for darach

[jade grotto]

I guess not much people have 6ex lodge steven

[inner heath]

He’s the budget clear. But most people offtype. 5/5 diantha is expensive

[jade grotto]

I used 1/5 diantha, but I had 3/5 6ex silver

[inner heath]

back then, with silver now it's easier

[jade grotto]

Yes I guess 6ex Steven could have replaced silver

[crude marten]

well the only one who has both sandstorm and rock damage field is unironically bertha

shes not even a rock type unit

[low coral]

UBs I would say are more so designed with a core instead of a single unit

Anabel still requires someone to set rain for Cerena

Adaman doesn't remove Psychic Terrain from Argenta

[crude marten]

leaf is such a complete set though

she just does everything thorton asked for

[low coral]

Leaf is the closest, yeah, although she still wants someone to pair with the mixed damage

As she's generally physical damage or special damage via sync, not both

[crude marten]

true

[low coral]

So the complement for Cerena is prob Variety Lyra or KriSS, Leaf I think they wanted Red or Hilda, Darach is Diantha and it looks to be Silver, but that was before he came out, so it could be Bertha, and Argenta is Adaman + Acerola

Palmer looks to be Rei + Hop to me

[warm haven]

Yeah

they with SSAC/NC Rosa make a great combo

[low coral]

And Lucy is def Adaman, but idk who I would say is the second

Sounds like Courtney, although she doesn't beat poison by herself

[warm haven]

Kinda SS Gladion too

[fast pendant]

I find Fall Roxanne to be more than Adaman still

the only thing fall roxanne had issue with ws poison which changing LS now make so are a non-issue

[crude marten]

hows lucy damage compared to argenta lets say?

havent actually met her in rally

[fast pendant]

as long as you don't let her buff speed

[crude marten]

argenta gets rain and psychic terrain multiplier while lucy has poison and speed multiplier

[fast pendant]

very low mdg

[crude marten]

since you can just ignore argenta psychic terrain with proper tank maybe you could ignore lucys speed buff too?

[fast pendant]

nop

it's a 90% buff

[crude marten]

i see

[low pilot]

Basically Lucy is "Don't get poisoned, ez"

[fast pendant]

for sync and moves

and the other thing is that her sides are the bulkiest

[warm haven]

VGio seems a like pretty good option for that

[fossil fjord]

NC Leaf with team condition nullification in sun and omni debuffs:

Well, aside from speed

[slate bison]

you either antitoxin everyone or time your sun

[true lagoon]

which is the stat that actually matters so

[peak mist]

In terms of upcoming ebe/ub coming in this month Palmer is the last one remaining for the month yea?

Just making sure I’m not misreading one of the things in summary. If there’s anything left on similar levels for gems

[stone scarab]

Palmer is the last "difficult fight" content of the month, yeah.

[peak mist]

What’s the event near end of month with on the picture?

Don’t really get what sort of event they’d feature her in that late into her banner

[low coral]

It's a event featuring some Passionate Spirit characters

Mainly Geeta, Palmer, and Dana

[shrewd marten]

Working on it

Recording hard tho

[fossil surge]

I only have nc silver but I've been thinking if maybe I can do it with my roster

I've heard that darach isn't too bad compared to the other ubs in terms of unit requirements

But nc silver is like my only good rock pair

And my only sand setter is acerola

So maybe not

[crude marten]

its doable with just silver

a good support and another sand setter should guarantee you a clear

[fossil surge]

He does set sand twice

I can send my roster if you want

[crude marten]

no bertha?

[fossil surge]

^

[crude marten]

acerola is good enough

[warm haven]

NC Silver + Accerola should beat darach even at 1/5 both

you need is a decent support

[fossil surge]

I have acerola at 2/5, but yeh silver is 1/5

Lemme grab a ss of my supports rq

There we go

[warm haven]

hm, i think SSA Cynthia could work

[fossil surge]

I was thinking bp morty cuz johto

I do have 1 of each candy if that changes anything at all

[fossil surge]

Almost 2 for that matter

[warm haven]

Morty would be crushed by +4 atk brave bird

[fossil surge]

Ah.

Is that at the start?

[warm haven]

After the first sync

[fossil surge]

Ah okay

Tbh i haven't done an in depth read on darach, all ik is that he wants to be taking damage from a field effect and ofc rock weak

[warm haven]

I really think that cynthia is enough but if you dont wanna struggle and like rosa (i see you have her lvl 150) candy her would be worth

[fossil surge]

I do in fact like rosa

I'll try with cynthia and if that doesn't work I'll candy rosa

But tyvm

Maybe this'll be my first ub clear

[crude marten]

you dont need to candy rosa for this

you should be able to take down darach before second sync

[left crow]

What would be a good team to beat ethan?

[grizzled portal]

Substitute anemona with og kris

Give her some investment and she carries

[rotund oasis]

That 3/5 Ariana though 😮

[grizzled portal]

If you don't wanna ex og kris then you can try with other options

Ss kris is the most important part, and ss lyra should make your life easier too

[valid raft]

Where would Lucy rank among the UBs?

In terms of difficulty

[low coral]

Gotta see in practice, Lucy is prob the most unique among the UB requirements

[left crow]

She's weak to ground an opponent spams eq

[true lagoon]

did you do penny already

cuz she kinda fucks penny up

[left crow]

Yes

Just ethan now

[true lagoon]

ethan is hard if you dont have ss kris or ss lyra tbh

[left crow]

I have both

[true lagoon]

oh

then just use ss kris and regular kris

[left crow]

I just need a striker who can weather both

[true lagoon]

shit gets trolled hard as fuck

[left crow]

Do i need kris exed? I don't feel exing her

[true lagoon]

uh probably

[left crow]

Ugh

[true lagoon]

ive had her ex’d since forever ago

also ethan has wise entry x3

[left crow]

I'll try i guess, but it's such a shame to ex her for this alone

[true lagoon]

so physical only

[true lagoon]

try it without

though sides are probably the issue

[left crow]

I'll see what i can do

[valid raft]

I wonder, will there be an off-type strat for Palmer?

[rotund oasis]

I think you could run Ash, Chase and NC Blue 😮

[jade marsh]

I’ve been really busy i’ll try to update the EB doc in a bit 😭

[stable tundra]

SS Morty + Silver+ SS Lyra

Remember the turn order so your team takes least damage possible

[stable tundra]

[shrewd marten]

You know what’s funny

I beat the f2p clear

But I did an oopsie

But it didn’t matter cuz the flinch was the most important and not the fact I only had half of inertia buff

And it shall be the only version I record

Can one of you ping me like 6 hours from now for the clear

I go sleep now

Night

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-22669238

[shrewd marten]

Waoooooow

[high harbor]

any tips for koga?Im on R4 and he keeps buffing his defense and being annoying

[valid raft]

#1009554906568462476

[stable tundra]

#1009554906568462476 is the right place

[low coral]

https://youtu.be/GQPu4BC2gVE?si=yNhC-XglzswXkh6v pairing Silver's flinch with freeze to extend the stun, gives you 9 Sync Buffs when Thorton is 2 countdown away from 2nd sync

[jaunty coral]

Can this work without 3/5 ss kris

[stone scarab]

Considering what her role on that team is meant to be, I would say probably

[final yacht]

Please use your stamina

I am in pain looking at this

[jaunty coral]

I can confirm it work

But you have to do it quick because base kris survive with endurance

[final yacht]

Lyra can pretty much permaflinch the stage it's fine

[jolly stream]

Is it Palmer is tough?

[stone scarab]

His fight is difficult, yes

You can check the pins to see a document that goes over what exactly he does

[stable tundra]

Yes he is. You have to clear before his post sync Max Move, and even then most of teams dont survive his first sync

[valid raft]

You'd need a really strong fighting type damage dealer

[jolly stream]

Okay

[warm haven]

Nice, i didnt know you could extend the stun that way

i wonder if that could work with anabel

[valid raft]

No SS Diantha?

Nah wait

It wouldn't work

Because needs rebuff

[low coral]

My Diantha's 1/5, but I don't see how she would slot there

[boreal abyss]

I can't wait for vgc ursaluna

[valid raft]

Unless you plan to replace SSA Cynthia for NC Blue, then forget it

[boreal abyss]

just to laugh at lucy trying to poison me when instead imma burn

[low coral]

You plan on making NC Blue the special damage source?

[valid raft]

Actually

I'm half stupid and half mid

I forgot Thorton needs both special and physical

[low coral]

Idk if you can do enough role compression there

Since you need a lot of debuffs

[valid raft]

Also, did you glitch Thorton?

[low coral]

Wdym glitch?

[valid raft]

The freeze at the end

[low coral]

No, that was just a bug on the replay

[spiral summit]

Maybe that just a replay bug

[valid raft]

Ah

[low coral]

It didn't happen the first time I watched it

If it's still up, you can check yourself too, it shouldn't freeze

[valid raft]

Hmmmm

[warm haven]

Btw how is your clear in the replays already?

does that show the most recent clears?

[low coral]

I did that yesterday, although I also recorded yesterday

The replays update pretty fast, but they're not most recent clears

They're a selection

One thing they don't do, for example, is repeated teams

[warm haven]

i see

[low coral]

Idk if there's a bias towards certain profiles as well

Once I got my first replay in, I get my clears shown in-game all the time

[fast pendant]

Maybe there's something for new clears as in, different teams that haven't been used before

Or just not often

[rotund oasis]

Okay. SC Steven (1) + NC Hop (3) + NC Rosa (3R) against Palmer

is it possible?

with SEUN, 2x Fighting Rebuff, and a big nuke with NC Hop?

(Assuming NC Rosa Sync -> NC Hop nuke) ?

[fast pendant]

You beat Palmer, but sides beat you

[spiral summit]

Side has very strong move

[fast pendant]

If you don't have rei (ironic) might want an aoe nuker or another dmg dealer to wear off the sides

[valid raft]

You mean EXR Riley

[low pilot]

Imagine spending one month's worth of BR shop

On EXR Riley for 300 gems

[fast pendant]

I think would be the best option, but there could be some others

[rotund oasis]

So... i have to wait for NC Hop's Strike EX Role? 😦

[true lagoon]

bea probably doesnt have enough damage

[fast pendant]

Hop wouldn't want Strike Role

[warm haven]

why not

[low coral]

Hop's best role would be Field imo

[true lagoon]

its the same situation as nc serena right

good at st debuff not very good at aoe

[low coral]

Hop's setup is already annoying single target, yeah

[fast pendant]

Only inertia works aoe

[low coral]

AoE is even worse

[fast pendant]

Which makes his sync weaker than a strike

[low coral]

Sprint would also work for Hop, but Field is my prefered one

[true lagoon]

why didnt they give him relentless instead of smarty pants lol

[low coral]

Because they wanted to showcase his Sp. Def debuff passive

[warm haven]

Well he debuffs both defs

[low coral]

But the Sp. Def debuff is pretty meh all around to me

Fighting barely has special pairs

[warm haven]

he already has an innate relentless

[low coral]

But it's cool for Solgaleo and Wally

[true lagoon]

that doesnt stop techs from getting the same multiplier on grid

[low coral]

Even Diantha is redundant with Hop and uses Defense anyway

[warm haven]

Imo that makes him more futureproof

[low coral]

I mean, idt Hop is great atm already

It's more so he lacks competition

[rotund oasis]

hmm the best idea i've got right now is NC Blue, Ash and Chase 😐

Chase is 1/5

since Vigilance is gonna be useless here

Adrenaline for chase and NC Blue

[fast pendant]

I would wait for Palmer to release since most haven't been able to test it out with different comps

There's not much to be done rn

[low coral]

It has been a year already and that Sp. Def didn't really make a difference I would say

[warm haven]

Nah i think he's underrated. He has crazy damage it's just that he's weird to use

[low coral]

Outside of a slightly better matchup vs Anabel

[warm haven]

He has cleared anabel as a solo dps, not many units can do that

[final yacht]

And Latias

[valid raft]

You'd be surprised

0 Sp. Def. debuffs

[final yacht]

what the fuck

[boreal abyss]

no comment

[low coral]

I think Field would improve him since it both makes his setup easier and less reliant on MPR

[valid raft]

Only Kanto Circle + 2 electric rebuff

[rotund oasis]

so... i'm in the right path then. 🙂

1/5 Chase though HMM

[valid raft]

This is with 10 stacks of SpMUN BTW

Which is possible

[warm haven]

Yeah that should be the best role for him

[low coral]

What is that calc for?

[valid raft]

rei's team

NC Blue/Ash/Chase

[low coral]

I know that, but for what?

[valid raft]

Palmer

[low coral]

Palmer? Or the medal?

Hmm, idt that looks correct

1m damage with 2 sync buffs?

[valid raft]

4 sync buffs

No it's 3

Oh wait, I set it to electric-weak

[low coral]

Yeah, I was gonna say no battle would even bother existing lol

[valid raft]

Still deals a lot of damage

[rotund oasis]

Delicious.

[valid raft]

Oh wait, I forgor Kanto Circle

[boreal abyss]

[true lagoon]

when are we getting the electric ub

[valid raft]

There we go

[rotund oasis]

hmm actually can you do it for like +4 or +5 SMUN?

[surreal maple]

Think I'm good to go for Palmer UB?

[valid raft]

Is that the team I suggested?

[rotund oasis]

yeah Chase 1/5, Ash 3/5 and NC Blue 3/5

i dont think i can hit +10SMUNs

[valid raft]

No, best you can do is 7, 9 if you can MPR NC Blue's TM once

[rotund oasis]

+4 or +5 is something i know i can do at least.

Fishing for NC Blue's TM

[valid raft]

2 from Chase, 2 from Ash and 3 from NC Blue minimum

[rotund oasis]

hum i see.

[spice basin]

Does Palmer have endure?

[low coral]

No

[spice basin]

Well, 'endure' in UB context

Ah

[valid raft]

This is with 7 SpMUN stacks

[rotund oasis]

/me nods

yeah i'm down for that.

just gotta give the two supports Adrenaline/Headstart or something

[valid raft]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=027900002500&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=4444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFDA0PEhUWHyAiJSg1&v1=026400002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDxEUFxobHiEjLg&v2=002103014500&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBggZGhweISQsLi8

[rotund oasis]

wait 3/5 Chase? D:!?

[valid raft]

I mean, it kinda doesn't matter

[rotund oasis]

wait what's this for?

[stone scarab]

LG stuff i imagine

[rotund oasis]

Oh

[valid raft]

To connect to Propulsion

[rotund oasis]

the other nodeds are more expensive. gotcha.

[low coral]

I don't understand the build

Who's tanking there?

[valid raft]

Not sure TBH

Either Chase or Blue

[low coral]

Then you're not getting Ash's own SMUN

[fading walrus]

Was a clear with BP Janine done already or

[fast pendant]

I don't see how are you getting so many moves up

[novel fog]

I'm back, this time I have to clear this stupid UB

Why is this guy not getting frozen 😫

[valid raft]

Because Thorton got slept, he woke up and triggered Resilience

[novel fog]

Ah I didn't notice that

How am I supposed to deny SR

This is so chaotic

Also, I am pretty much forced to use ice beam on the right side to deny SR, which won't allow me to actually sync with 3 SMUNs from blizzard but only with 2 SMUNs from Rosa's TM

This was such a lucky run, I got like 4 potion MPRs

I think CS2 could be the answer, but I can't rely on Leaf not getting critted without Vigilance

[stable tundra]

Its 50% chance

[novel fog]

Only if my Leaf had endurance

[novel fog]

Yes, and he goes through 2 blizzards

According to what Runner said, it shouldn't even get to the point where he syncs me twice

But I absolutely cannot see how I can kill him prior to that

I successfully did my quad queuing as well

[novel fog]

https://youtu.be/cIkm_S1zXNk?si=6X5nnBdGaRF55yGt

What have I done wrong

[valid raft]

Did you mean to KO the Steelix?

[novel fog]

Yes

Oh

Ahhhhhhhhhh not really

[valid raft]

Because I'm pretty sure you can turn deny the Avalugg

[novel fog]

Are you talking about the ice beam?

If so, I accidentally pressed on Steelix

The recording does not record my voice but if it did, you would've been able to hear me screaming

[valid raft]

Also, if there's sun active, no one can be frozen

[novel fog]

especially when I realised that I could've cleared it if I didn't

[novel fog]

That's good to know actually

[valid raft]

You played almost perfectly

[novel fog]

:o

[valid raft]

I think there were few misplays on your part

[novel fog]

Is it just the ice beam

what else?

[valid raft]

What move level is your NC Leaf again?

[novel fog]

1/5

Others are 3/5

[valid raft]

Oh

If your NC Leaf was actually 3/5, then it's an immediate win

[forest root]

Just now trying to figure out a good team for Ethan part 2

I’ve got Eusine at 3/5 and EX’d

[novel fog]

Yeah, I know, this is what makes this UB a lot harder

Tho I can't access 2 tech candies at the moment

Power play and Insult to injury can carry her damage pretty hard

[exotic trail]

is there a way to get crunchy cookies whe you have already done battle villa?

[viral ocean]

Redo it or use stamina on training

There’s a new one called lucky scroll area and it gives crunchy cookies

[exotic trail]

is penny beatable without the lucky skill on ssacynthia?

[valid raft]

It might be, but I haven't tried yet

[viral ocean]

NC leaf is the goat of ub

[exotic trail]

well what do i do

watch the video?

[valid raft]

You have tried flinching with SST Red right?

[exotic trail]

not yet on this one.

the hau one I got ssgladion so

never tried to perfect it

[valid raft]

Then you can destroy Hau's EB without any problems whatsoever

[exotic trail]

...I said Penny

oh well. Guess I'm not gonna beat that one

surely I thought there must be some way but

its not like I don't have any powerful pairs.

but I guess it's being made clear to me that doesn't matter

[grizzled portal]

No ss morty?

[novel fog]

You really said Hau😭

[spice basin]

They did not

[exotic trail]

"is PENNY beatable without the lucky skill on ssacynthia:

@novel fog

[novel fog]

OH!

[exotic trail]

May I please have some help with Penny?

..please?

[viral ocean]

Penny is the ultimate hatred in br

[grizzled portal]

Give us your roster

[valid raft]

Oh Penny LMFAO

[exotic trail]

there's no way that battle is unbeatable if you haven't spent x amount of hundreds of dollars

[valid raft]

Do you have SS Morty?

[viral ocean]

I got -6 buffs before stacking 4 sync buffs to kill her

[grizzled portal]

Ethan and Hau are more difficult than penny imo

[viral ocean]

Cringe

[exotic trail]

I do but.. I have 3rd anni trio ex 3/5..,😭

[viral ocean]

I’ve met Ethan but didn’t find any problem with it

[grizzled portal]

Do you have SS Kris?

[exotic trail]

I

please help me with the video 😭

[grizzled portal]

The person that didn't have a problem with Ethan I mean

[inner heath]

there's f2p team for penny but your karen and kris are not 3/5 right?
can try ssgiovanni or petrel

[exotic trail]

..

I HAVE 3RD ANNI TRIO 3/5 EX

guess its not happening

[valid raft]

Wait

[exotic trail]

I'll try Ethan now

I thought surely I'll get help with it

[grave pendant]

Those guys can’t bruteforce everything, ya know

[valid raft]

What were you trying previously again?

[exotic trail]

guess I was mistaken

[exotic trail]

penny

[exotic trail]

he

[valid raft]

Ok

[grave pendant]

Knowing Caster tho, they’ll find a way

[exotic trail]

he literally has a video on them beating penny...

am I

[valid raft]

I'm gonna try without using HS1 on Aura Cynthia

[exotic trail]

did I wake up speaking backwards?

[exotic trail]

yeah as the lucky skill

[valid raft]

I know

[errant kite]

if he has a video then follow it

not sure what you want everyone to do for you

[valid raft]

No HS1 lucky skill

[exotic trail]

oh. my god.

[valid raft]

Just wait first

[grave pendant]

So the video is on the trio, missed that context

[exotic trail]

are my messages disappearing?

like

[errant kite]

bro why are you so rude

seriously

these people are taking time out of their day to try and help you

[novel fog]

[valid raft]

Be patient first, ok?

I'll find try to find a way

[errant kite]

and you're just nasty and sarcastic

[exotic trail]

I can wait. Thanks for altering the battle for me

[errant kite]

this is not a paid help channel

[exotic trail]

what is rude is when people don't read my messages and accusing me of things.

its like having rotten tomatoes thrown at you..

[grave pendant]

Even then, don’t treat paid workers horribly, folks

[grizzled portal]

what tomatoes were thrown though

[errant kite]

watch your attitude if you expect to keep using these channels

that's all i'll say

[exotic trail]

I suppose when you're accused of things because people don't take the time to read context?

i didn't know sticking up for yourself was attitude. I'm sorry. I'll remember next time.

[grizzled portal]

Well it's fine it seems things have quieted down anyway

[novel fog]

emilie your pfp reminds me of kung fu panda

[spice basin]

We just need to take it down a notch, be friendly & respectful to everyone and we can all move on. If you're flustered with anything, just explain what the issue is

[exotic trail]

its fezandipiti

[novel fog]

I'll get back into beating Thorton😀

[novel fog]

Yeah idk what that is

[valid raft]

One of the legendaries in the S/V DLC

[grizzled portal]

Good luck with thorton

[novel fog]

Uh..

I doubt I can make it with a 1/5 NCLeaf

Where's Runner😩

[grizzled portal]

What's your team again?

Oh you edited

[novel fog]

NCRosa/NCRed/NCLeaf

3/5, 3/5, 1/5

[exotic trail]

you can ping me if you want when you finish the battle

[novel fog]

https://youtu.be/cIkm_S1zXNk?si=o53V1AfkHFt3-YMt

[valid raft]

Ok

[exotic trail]

if you would like, that's fine

[novel fog]

Got relatively close but that broke my spirit

[grizzled portal]

The physical side of their hp bar seems rough with just Leaf's B move

[novel fog]

I was one away

🥰

All I need is basically HS1

Or endurance on NCLeaf

[valid raft]

God, the paralyze threw me off

[exotic trail]

its kind of hard when you have to do it over and over again and then people call you rude for doing so...

explaining the issue I mean.

[valid raft]

And my game crashed

[exotic trail]

No..

[valid raft]

Don't worry, I haven't succeeded anyways

[exotic trail]

oh no..

[valid raft]

I know it can succeed if I wasn't suffering from success

[novel fog]

I am suffering from failure

NO WAY HE'S HERE

[exotic trail]

imagine having the 3rd anni trio buffed and ex'd to optimum but the only thing stopping you from beating penny was the fact you never did the last legendary gauntlet

couldn't possibly be me

[valid raft]

A lot of people don't do gauntlet

[grizzled portal]

To be fair it can be pretty difficult to off region some of these EBEs

[novel fog]

I still cannot manage to beat Ethan, not even part1

[valid raft]

I'm failing the 50/50 on Thunder Shock Staggering

[grizzled portal]

I want to make an off region team to maybe help some people, or at least a team without SS Kris or SS Lyra

But I'm stumped

[exotic trail]

I have Nemona but

[valid raft]

And I can't quadqueue

[exotic trail]

nobody else from paldea

[fast pendant]

@novel fog

first sync with leaf is to mimic supp ex that should come from rosa instead

[exotic trail]

so I don't really think there's anything I can do

with nemona

[novel fog]

Iswear if that's another clear

[grizzled portal]

SS Morty carries

[novel fog]

But

[grizzled portal]

But not everyone has him

[novel fog]

Rosa has Sprint EXR

[fast pendant]

that's why I'm not syncing with my rosa

[grizzled portal]

And not many people also wanna invest in old f2p/accessible pairs too

[exotic trail]

I do have ssmorty

but i also have 3rd anni trio

don't believe you can make a blend of those

also - he is not ex

and only 1/5

[novel fog]

I have it unlocked tho..

[fast pendant]

that's great, sync with rosa instead

[novel fog]

MIND IF I HAND YOU MY ACCOUNT? or that's illegal?😞

[grizzled portal]

Yeah that's at least one candy on him to get the sunny day mpr plus other goodies so I get not wanting to invest

[novel fog]

I'm about to bump my head into a wall

[fast pendant]

I resetted my leaf's grid and changed rosa to vigilance instead of hs1

not much else I can do

[spiral summit]

Then you should relax and try this again later, this isn’t limited event

[novel fog]

Yes but I have to make it

[valid raft]

@exotic trail This should please you

[exotic trail]

haha

ash b move?

[sour elk]

Johto pairs get the boost too, not just paldea, there's two video clears with SS morty as tank

[exotic trail]

that move is nuts

[grizzled portal]

1/5 unfortunately

[exotic trail]

he is support right?

[novel fog]

I don't understand like half of the things you're doing

[grizzled portal]

Yeah SS Morty is support

Sunny day / sustain stuff

[valid raft]

@exotic trail And kaboom

[exotic trail]

YEA!

thank you!

okay what do I do!

[novel fog]

Absolutely RATS

[exotic trail]

everything same as video right?

[valid raft]

I'll just probably record it

[exotic trail]

sst's grid is still same when you helped me with hau

[sour elk]

You also have time to get lodge Jasmine and do the f2p clear

[valid raft]

Different path, same stop

I'll send my grids later

[exotic trail]

okay

ash and red with cs2 obv

[valid raft]

Yes

Aura Cynthia has Vigilance

[exotic trail]

and any lucky skill on cynthia besides hs1?

gotcha

oh and this is part 2 right?

[valid raft]

Yes

[exotic trail]

just so you know

I haben't even beaten part 1

[valid raft]

Eh?

[exotic trail]

so should be a breeze

yeah. was too hard

but if part 2 you beat like that

part 1 shouldn't be an issue

I'd assume..

[valid raft]

I can beat it (if I wasn't messing up)

[novel fog]

I hate you for that, this one is 10 times better than the previous one while I still can't even clear it ONCE

[valid raft]

@exotic trail

[exotic trail]

thanks!

[valid raft]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009103044800&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=21010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDQ4PEBMWGRo&v1=026400002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDxEUFxobHiEjLg&v2=000002002500&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFFR0gIiMlKSssLS8

[exotic trail]

I'll try now

[valid raft]

If you know how to quadqueue, you're good

[exotic trail]

I'll check back if I need any help.

[valid raft]

I will tell you this:
The same thing won't work on Ethan

[grizzled portal]

DeNa so tired of rats they made Ethan spam earthquake

[valid raft]

That still didn't stop Red

[grizzled portal]

Flinch hax?

[valid raft]

With NC Blue

[grizzled portal]

Neat

Mustn't feel great though

Crazy how powerful he still is

[valid raft]

Am I still really the only one with a full off-region clear on Ethan?

I'm surprised no JP content creator has done it yet

[grizzled portal]

I wanted to fiddle with flinch and kalos ncs

But haven't had the time

[viral ocean]

I tried but only 2 off region

Nc silver I used…

[valid raft]

Best part is:
Even if you failed to kill Penny before her sync, this happens

[fossil surge]

2 questions: what should I grid in acerola, and how should I go about clearing with this team?

[novel fog]

Do you guys think copying this 1:1 should do the job for me or random sleep/freeze triggers may ruin it

[jade grotto]

Is sandstorm enough to remove the 200% defense boost? Or you need something like stealth rock?

[fossil surge]

I believe sand is enough?

Not 1000% sure

[inner heath]

this won't work
you need a nuke and a dps, silver can only dps at 1/5, no nuke
you need debuff, not only they're tanky but they also hit hard
you also need more healing, 2 potions from cynthia are not enough
acerola is a deadweight when she can only provides sandstorm, and you still need mpr multiple times if silver is the only dps
you want all your units to fit multiple roles
all 3 are underleveled

[fossil surge]

I do have 2/5 nc rosa

And 1 strike tech and support candy

I posted my supports earlier but I can post the rest of my roster

[novel fog]

It also looks like NCSilver is not even EX'd

[fossil surge]

He isn't but I can ex him

[novel fog]

You should listen to Lost

Do what they say

[fossil surge]

Mhm I def will

[inner heath]

not that much better, you can try, but you still need a sync nuke
usually need 2 dps/nuke and 1 support for UB. if you use 2 supports at least 1 should have some utility kit like debuff, of buff multiple stats, WTZ...
if you use 1 dps then they must be 3/5+

[fossil surge]

I have a 2/5 olivia but she's old

[inner heath]

olivia is not clearing this, 3/5 silver and 3/5 ncrosa and a 3rd might be able to do this
do you mind posting your roster

[fossil surge]

Yeah sure

pomatracker gives me trouble on my phone, so here are screenshots

The only notable addition is nc silver since these are a lil old

[inner heath]

yeah i don't see a viable 3rd member even if you 3/5 rosa and silver, save your candies. you need another wtz/damage field unit and a debuffer
just wait til you got more units, the fight is permanent, no need to rush

[novel fog]

Isn't gordie fine

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/lPFkOJTkgq0?si=d7PVFNv7nynLTrKm

Well that is something

Sorry for intruding

[novel fog]

But they don't have Paulo

[inner heath]

yeah but 2/5

[novel fog]

Oh you're right

[inner heath]

still need to use candies for other units but don't recommend until someone can test that team

[marble flume]

I would advise against candying specifically for UBs in general. They’re permanent content, so sooner or later you’ll likely candy the required Sync Pair(s) naturally

[fast pendant]

I wouldn't rule out so quickly that they can clear it as it is

[fossil surge]

I wouldn't be upset if I wasn't unable to do it rn

[exotic trail]

so

[fast pendant]

is there anything missing here? I don't see NC Silver in here so I assume there's at least one line missing

[exotic trail]

sst red just ate about 40 3 star crunchy cookies (pink ones)

[fossil surge]

Should be just him

[exotic trail]

and didn't get cs2

so

I might not end up doing Penny 🙂

[fast pendant]

I was mainly looking for Bertha

[fossil surge]

Nope, no bertha

There's also redlax ig

[fast pendant]

could be useful

[fossil surge]

1/5 tho

[fast pendant]

I'll give it a try and let you know

[fossil surge]

If it changes anything I almost have a 2nd strike tech and support candy

And almost a sprint and field candy

[valid raft]

I think it's still fine

Look
#1009557516369281075 message

[novel fog]

Do villa if u want cookies ig, it's a lot better than the new training area

I spent 300+ stamina on it this morning, only got 2 3* cookies.

[hardy peak]

Hot damn someone did a f2p clear of penny?

[grizzled portal]

f2p is fairly difficult

But if you have SS Morty at least he makes it viable with other accessible pairs

[hardy peak]

Still that damn impressive

[grizzled portal]

Actually now that I think about it, in the doc there's a f2p clear

iirc

Check pins

[exotic trail]

then how in the world do you beat him? whale on nc silver?

[grizzled portal]

If you have either SS Kris or SS Lyra you won't have an awful time

The problem is not having either

[true lagoon]

the solutions to ethan are all mfs

which is the issue

[grizzled portal]

Basically yes

[novel fog]

I still can't beat stupid Thorton

[peak mist]

How’s Neo silver doing ub wise in his first few days? Do we think he’ll contribute to a10 rally much, or does he not have the toolkit to answer much ub wise?

Just trying to help myself gauge how valuable units are in ubs so I can more easily gauge who to save for a10 in that mode

[low coral]

He is capable of beating all of them, but he's not necessarily a hard carry

Pretty useful on most of them still

Thorton would be his worst matchup

[peak mist]

Because of the defense flipping I assume?

[true lagoon]

he cant do much for the first part of the fight

and sides are x3 phys def

[peak mist]

Fair. So due to phase one and sides special units have an edge in Thorton then

[fair sorrel]

I may skip on the upcoming UBE as I only have Rei and Anni Cynthia

[silver spruce]

I think Cynthia Riley and Rei should be able to clear it

[grizzled portal]

Rei and cynthia are the most important parts it feels like

Dps check without Hop might be rough though

[novel fog]

WHY THE HELL DOES HE STEALTH ROCK SO EARLY

[silver spruce]

I think it’ll mainly fall to either Riley sc diantha or nc hop for the third

[peak mist]

I’ll prob mess with the Palmer fight but more than likely without rei or any other strong fighting dps I’m just sol

[novel fog]

It's literally impossible to queue with rosa before steelix queues for earthquake

Is it possible to achieve with no speed ?

[grizzled portal]

I feel like if it's stressing you out you should probably return when you have better tools, like 3/5 leaf or Hilda even

[novel fog]

BUT

RUNNER DID IT

[grizzled portal]

Unless you're trying to reach a pity that's about to expire

[novel fog]

Let's assume that I do

Is it possible

or I'm just doing something wrong

[peak mist]

Sing requeues are just really weird to work with in general. Maybe they had a grid tile activation that you’re not having. That’s my only guess sorry

[peak mist]

Cause I know that tile activation like mgr and the like effect sleep flinch freeze timings

[novel fog]

It's probably extremely hard to pull off

[stone scarab]

yeah for sing "quad queues" you need a passive like team stoic or force field iirc

[novel fog]

And I pretty much failed a run because of not being able to sync fast enough

[novel fog]

I have team stoic

This is stupidly hard

I GOT IT

Aight, hopefully I don't fail to deny rocks

This is basically relying on consistent quad-queueing

otherwise it's seems to be impossible

[true lagoon]

yeah sleep queues are hard

[novel fog]

Does it matter if I use Ice beam to deny earthquake? Resilence only triggers when Articuno wakes up anyway

The thing is, will it make it so SR comes even earlier than usual?

[warm haven]

Dont you have another fire unit?

[novel fog]

I do not

I got soooooo close tho

1 hit off

And this strategy is a lot better

[novel fog]

He just uses X attack instead

wtf is this

I give up

[fossil surge]

@fast pendant sorry to bug you but did you end up doing that run with my team? For darach ub

[peak mist]

looking at the pending clears of curiosity, apparently an ash + sstred duo for darach got posted twice in there?

was digging through them to find out what bosses people already did geeta clears on

[formal crescent]

I'm having trouble with this because Cynthia gets one shotted with sync

[peak mist]

im a little puzzled on what cynthias job there is. is there a reason for her over ontype like Olivia?

just curious, since not ex im just assuming prob not focused as heavily on her sync

[formal crescent]

Champion theme

... I could probably just use NC Blue come to think of it but idk if the paralysis is reliable

[peak mist]

what move level is ncblue

[formal crescent]

3/5

[peak mist]

just grab HE2

easy

[formal crescent]

Oh right why didn't I look at his grid

Ingo, Emmet and NC Blue crushed it

[peak mist]

Ngl I don’t know why Darach barely gets hurt here lol. I’m just messing with budget team ideas vs Darach atp

Guessing it’s the gradual heal

So prob will still need a big nuke to go with Geeta here

cause zones should be enough to disable passives right?

[jade marsh]

It’s the heal

Just by the way it works you need to do more than 36k damage per turn to kill him in that state

Very few units can combine to output that level of dps so the only way around it is nuke or disruption to lower the dps requirement

And yes geeta disrupts his passives

[peak mist]

so then for a budget clear the puzzle becomes finding a nuke that fits here...

dawn and blue dont work as budget tanks on their own from what im seeing, need spdef up too due to sides, and blue lacks on the healing side

[low coral]

Also, Geeta gets considerably weaker single target due to the loss of 2 Move Ups

She still does more to that specific target than when she's AoE, but difference is a lot smaller than the usual

[peak mist]

made progress with anabel and mayziken but, mayziken dies to sync sadly

even in mega

figured shed have a bit more bulk than that on her under double walls

if anyone has any ideas for third slot to get mayziken to postsync without a second mf on the team thatd be great, or some other PF/seasonal/etc nuker to there.

cause i honestly kinda want to try to do darach with a budget clear for fun, just something to do this week lol

[true lagoon]

is this for thorton

oh darach

[inner heath]

3/5 geeta is budget?

[peak mist]

well, relative to using like 3 mfs and calling it a day

[inner heath]

using the least MF possible, sure
but like using 3 MF at 1/5 is still cheaper than 3 pokefair at 3/5

[peak mist]

well idk what else to try budgetwise on ubs, partially its for getting a sense of what i can get away with in rallies, damage output wise

[inner heath]

for nuke there's bertha or gordie

you might need at least 1 MF tho

or you can use 1/5 grid on MF

[peak mist]

cause i know therell be times where i have next to nothing leftover from doing 2x stages in rallies, barring like one counter to each boss or something

at least in terms of my exrs

[warm haven]

Lodge wally is a great budget tank for darach

[peak mist]

honestly still havent really read lodge wallys kit

[short gate]

milionaire roster, 45 banner exclusive limited units 🔥

[short gate]

on a more serious note, why dawn?

[tawdry shadow]

Is it alright if I send my whole box or an imgur link? Pomatracker isnt working for me rn, need help with the Taking on young Talent event

[grizzled portal]

Oh wait wrong channel smh

Yeah send it away

[tawdry shadow]

I've been leveling up characters as I need them. Not sure if I'm strong enough to take on Ethan and Penny but lmk! Thx

I also have the resources to EX a couple sync pairs if they need it. I don't have a preference or one that I use a lot so there's that lol

[true lagoon]

any hope for this team comp to work

[grizzled portal]

You have nc silver for ethan so he carries pretty well

[grizzled portal]

Wait you even have geeta for penny

[marble flume]

You have both the Sync Pairs that the event asks for, so just build a team around Geeta for the Penny fight and a team around NC Silver for the Ethan fight

[grizzled portal]

Just use solid supports and you're good to go

[marble flume]

Make sure that at least your tank is either Johto or Paldea

[grizzled portal]

What's elio doing, sleep chain?

Yeah iono should work well

[true lagoon]

sync cure

thats literally it

actually

wait im trolling

i have anabel wtf am i doing :wheeze:

[grizzled portal]

Good luck

[true lagoon]

i mean it almost worked

tbf

i just got too worn down by the sides

[grizzled portal]

Yeah sides have okay hp

When I cleared with mina I attacked the sides a little bit since nuking middle killed them pretty easily

[true lagoon]

anabel is a very strong defensive support so hopefully it’ll work

[grizzled portal]

Before nuking I mean

[true lagoon]

wait this means i can just run clearheaded on everyone

whee for status shield

anabel unironically the biggest carry

bro it didnt crit again

[tawdry shadow]

Ok thanks! I don't have a problem taking down ethan but my supports do end up dying quick! Thx

[marble flume]

Most likely that’s due to being off-region

So having the tank be from one of those regions should fix it right up

[tawdry shadow]

Thank you!

[crude marten]

geeta is joining the presync thorton club

[rotund oasis]

can she deal with Darach?

thing is she's 2/5 though cries in a corner

[crude marten]

yeah she has like 4 zones

would want ss roxie for longer duration

or oleana to push damage and big nuke

[short gate]

Finallyyyuu

Managed to upload my video

https://streamable.com/26gsx1

I’m not able to kill the sides after middle

That’s my biggest issue

Their aoe takes out too much hp from velio

(Skipped the beginning, which is just putting the units to sleep and using tms)

[crude marten]

this is the time where you should deny the sides with sync

[short gate]

Not a perfect run but yeah

[crude marten]

dont sync the mid again

[short gate]

?

Wdym?

[crude marten]

spread velio sync to sides

[short gate]

The middle will double sync if I don’t kill it though?

[rotund oasis]

2/5 enough? or 3/5 required?

[crude marten]

you need to time it properly

since the sides will spam clanging scales when mid dies

[short gate]

Also, I don’t think a single sync will kill the sides

[crude marten]

so you have to chip everyones hp

[short gate]

They need to have some spdef debuff

[crude marten]

theres still a lot of turns left before hau sync

spread the damage to sides

[short gate]

What about hyper beam?

[crude marten]

1-2 psychic wont hurt

[short gate]

That deals a lot of damage to ss mina

[crude marten]

hyperbeam ko mina?

[short gate]

2 does ko mina

I don’t have vigilance since headstart too

[crude marten]

well thats where you potion mpr gaming

[short gate]

I don’t have potion mpr?

The grid has go viral and force field

[crude marten]

hmm

ig no potion mpr is fine

you can heal up rosa

hau use special attack all after he syncs

best time to heal rosa

then use sing again

[short gate]

So how do I go about hyper beam?

[crude marten]

this one sorry

heal rosa then heal mina

[short gate]

Alright thanks

Ill try it out tomorrow

Too late for me right now

[crude marten]

goodluck

[crude marten]

2/5 is enough

darach sides are weak

tech move level is more important here

[rotund oasis]

nice.

[exotic trail]

so @valid raft I did penny part 1 OK. But her sync was a total wipeout on part two

I might be messing something up a tad.

[shrewd marten]

@pliant jewel whats the official name of the ethan thingy

uploading vid to utube rn

[pliant jewel]

ethan thing?

Take On the Young Talent

[shrewd marten]

ok thenks

oh

i need to make poma tools grids

a

another dealy

delay

[clear walrus]

Which ultimate battle is the easiest?

[pliant jewel]

Darach < Argenta < Thorton < Anabel (edit)

I believe is the difficulty ranking. (might be wrong)
But Darach has the least amount of gimmicks.

[clear walrus]

Is that hardest to easiest or easiest to hardest

[crude marten]

easiest to hardest

[clear walrus]

Thank you

[crude marten]

imo argenta is easier than thorton but seems like theyre interchangeable

[pliant jewel]

Sorry I used the wrong symbols.

I meant to use less than.

[clear walrus]

Is Darach easier with the rats or the new Silver?

[crude marten]

silver

[pliant jewel]

As long as you have a field active, Darach's defenses won't be multiplied. SO weather terrain or zone.

[clear walrus]

Good to know , I can try Silver with Diantha and Bertha

I can always fall back to rats with Blue

[crude marten]

i would bring support instead of bertha

silver support + diantha/bertha

[pliant jewel]

well you likely need another source of sand

Paulo/Ingo are ideal.

[clear walrus]

Yup, I needed a healer there

[jade marsh]

I’d put Thorton above Argenta

Rest is right

[valid raft]

Really? I survived the sync

[spark isle]

I believe it all depends on what units you have

I'm pretty sure darach is a lot easier now for me due to having silver

[novel fog]

Is there a way to beat Ethan/Penny now when I have a 1/5 VLyra and a 1/5 Penny?

Still haven't cleared Ethan's p1

[fading walrus]

Those two don't do a lot in that fight tbh

[jade grotto]

Difficulty of UB varies with your roster, harder ones can be easier if you have the proper units, and easier ones may be harder if you don't have the proper counters

Thorton seems pretty hard, you need mixed damage, and it spams.strong AOE

[fading walrus]

There's also units who outperform in every UB

Like NC Serena and NC blue

And leaf

So having those definitely makes most of them easy

[mint swan]

Thanks variety select, i managed to clear penny round 2 with 1/5 EX Ariana skipped ncsilver and geeta, well mvp for ethan round 2 for me is 5/5 EX Kris

[echo atlas]

I also used Ariana for Penny, felt pretty good

[dim lance]

https://youtu.be/YE9kG_PDC7M?si=-skmZelsL9EQKl-b

[rotund oasis]

dat penny www

[dim lance]

Don't laugh lol

It's one of her first UB showings

To not be carried by a broke support in itself is amazing

[rotund oasis]

That 5/5 SS Roxie though ooof

[crude marten]

imagine not using her as a support damage enhancer

[rotund oasis]

Oh wow, she has Ruthless Toxin 9

Interesting. Hmm

[valid raft]

I actually thought it was off-region clear on the EBs NGL

[rotund oasis]

wow they're going for rock slide flinches 😮

[crude marten]

well the run depends on it

[rotund oasis]

dang, they managed to clear it xd

but man, there were a lot of close calls

okay the thorton run without vigilance is just.... nasty.

Spam that Disarming Voice 😮

[forest root]

What’s a good team to take down Ethan part 2? I’ve got Eusine at 3/5 and SS Kris at 1/5

[silver spruce]

I think you'd be better off with Base Kris and SS Kris ove Eusine

[forest root]

Yeah probably. I just need to get lucky with skill cookies for crit strike 2 on base Kris

[silver spruce]

I used SS Kris, Base Kris, Event Bugsy

The leer debuffs helped alot

[forest root]

Oh I could try that

[jovial monolith]

is it better for me to try and complete the hau ebe using the accessible team in pins or is there a limited that could make it easier?

i have the rats and zapdos too

[drowsy mulch]

Hey guys, this team can beat Darach?

[radiant edge]

Nope

You won’t have enough Sandstorm to pin thru his HP bar

[pine loom]

Get a Bertha

If you have her

[novel fog]

Can this team work? (once SS Gladion is 3/5, should be around the next week)

[lunar sedge]

The gauge might just barely able to catch up

[novel fog]

Seriously?

I was told this team will be able to do just fine 😞

(In terms of gauge), this is why I went for Penny

[stable tundra]

with max speed Gladion and Whimsical Acceleration, its fine in short battle

[drowsy mulch]

Ty

[lunar sedge]

this team is great for shorter fights, however UB typically tends to be longer and a consistent gauge is important for this

[stable tundra]

but i doubt that team can work against Darach, even with 3/5 Gladion

[drowsy mulch]

Ty ill look

[novel fog]

Ah, alright

I guesx SS Wally is the play then?

Over Penny

[sour elk]

I thought Ollie would be a better partner but I'm really no expert, they decided to go with Roxie so I'm guessing they're better at least for the time being

I'll try to record some clears with Geeta + Oleana when she gets support EXR, but I think I'll need 3/5 Geeta EXR too to get a good shot against Anabel

[jaunty coral]

I have been trying this battle since it appeared im losing my mind

[valid raft]

Why does Thorton only have -1 rebuff?

I assume NC Blue targetted someone else with his sync

[valid raft]

And also, you didn't debuff Thorton's defense, and that's an assumption that you didn't either use G-Max Volt Crash or NC Blue flinched everyone but failed to paralyze

[jaunty coral]

In the video i watched they didnt sync with blue

[jaunty coral]

I DID gmax volt crash tho

[valid raft]

Then why isn't Thorton's defense debuffed assuming you're using SST Red's B Move?

[valid raft]

Which video are you referring to?

[jaunty coral]

The one on the doc

[warm haven]

what are their move levels?

That team is pretty strong, idk why they didnt sync with blue but syncing with him could make the clear easier

[jaunty coral]

4/5 hau , 3/5 ex role sst red and 3/5 blue

[warm haven]

For blue, give him Electrorepulsion 3 and sync with him first

Sync with Hau for the first bar only, then the second bar with SST Red

Turn 0-1 max move with quadqueue for a 2 turn first sync

And try to use b-roost after the sync always

[drowsy mulch]

Sadly i dont

[pine loom]

: (

Do you have any weather or terrain setters

Or any Zone setter

[warm haven]

Acerola

[drowsy mulch]

Gordie maybe?

[pine loom]

Do you have any Sun or Rain setter?

[drowsy mulch]

I have Morty or Kris Suicune

[pine loom]

Try Suicune

Wait

Try SS Morty instead

Cuz NC Silver's physical

[drowsy mulch]

Yeah