Champion Stadium

[bitter veldt]

that's even more pity than an arc

[left storm]

That's called being unlucky

Not that weird

Odds of this happening are just as big as getting a 2% featured in 3 dailies

[bitter veldt]

Sad. I'm going to get my 1st pity on this stupid giacomo too though on this account.

he's freaking 2% rate and not once

and I have gotten better results on 1% arcs/master fairs.

being on gacha and flex channel and being somewhat lucky on anni made me think pitying is not as common.

[true bloom]

I mute that channel to curb my urge to pull 😂

Seeing people getting lucky made me think I could pull it off too and.... boom!

[bitter veldt]

boom! and gems gone

so many flexes on giacomo pull were shown when he was out too. and still now.

which is why i pulled on him

esp him being 2%

OH THEN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET HIM!~

"my logics"

[clear breach]

Rei is threatening my gem savings

[bitter veldt]

but 2% rate pull leads to worse results than some master fairs/arcs pulls

[old orchid]

I came here to help people not listen to resource management rants

[left storm]

Doesn't mean anything

Rates don't mean shit

You can pity 5 2% in a row and daily 2 MFs on first day

Probability is just a guideline

That's why yoloing on banners is never a good idea unless you're read to get nothing for months

Same reason I argue vigilance is still a great cookie

Because whenever I run a triple team of no vigilance users I get triple crit by spread moves every run

[toxic cobalt]

This is so real

[undone ether]

i'm kinda ready for a new champion stadium ;-;

[versed meteor]

You have no idea how fast i am

[sick inlet]

The gauge would cry if you're not fast with that team

[graceful oriole]

who needs gauge

[gleaming jolt]

I imagine they did three solos?
That's why showing three attackers maybe!

[thorny wind]

It should still show up just one

[gleaming jolt]

Oh yeah mb!

I confused it with the entered hall of fame screen!

[thorny wind]

It's fine lol

[gleaming jolt]

Done!

It could have been a theme (3k offtype with opponent in my team), only if I had Lance!
||I tried to bring a fake Champion with dragon type Pokemon (even though SS Leon doesn't have Champion theme), to fill Lance's place! ||

[sick inlet]

Ooo you put it all in one pic

I like

[true bloom]

Will against Will, he's used as what btw?

[left storm]

He's a fine flincher

[true bloom]

Ohhh didn't know that XD

[gleaming jolt]

Koga and Bruno are the useless one!

Will flinched himself while Karen debuff herself (SpAtk)!

[gleaming jolt]

Because of his flinches, I did 4 syncs (1 Prof Oak and 3 Rei)!

[manic mica]

Congrats!!!!

[bold hazel]

What's the ideal order to battle the elite 4, based on the special parameters?

[undone ether]

this is my clear for this week. Round 4 against Koga with NC Leaf & Mix Blue o.o
It'll depend on your roster though.

just make sure to avoid will or karen on round 4

[old orchid]

nov's message in the pins tells you which stages to avoid in certain rounds. for R3, definitely avoid Koga at all cost because he setup Crit Shield before sync

you don't need to take advantage of the round params, as long as you don't make enemies stronger

[sick inlet]

This most important tip

[bold hazel]

Round One I'm going to face Koga using:

Koga: Gloria Alt 2,

Round Two & Three I'm going to facing Will and Karen using:

Karen: Rei,

Will:

Round 4 against Bruno I'm going to use:

Final round against Champion Lance I'm going to use:

Can I get some help filling in the blanks? Also during round Two and Three, what order should I face Will and Karen.

[old orchid]

Are you attempting hard or master mode

[bold hazel]

Hard currently, I'll potentially try Master afterwards

[old orchid]

can you send your type medal progress here please

[grand steppe]

Example Clear: not 1:1 with this week's type weaknesses, but shows how you can team build
https://youtu.be/jnj4jo42qIs

[cedar bloom]

Tryna best koga with ho oh

[old orchid]

+helperfaq

+helpfaq

[frozen depot]

Help our Helpers here provide you with better assistance by following these steps:

1. Fill out this roster tracker https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/ using this video guide : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
2. Tell us what stage you're doing, this includes also the round and your parameters if it's on Master Mode.
3. Footage is important, show screenshots of your team or gameplay where it fails, every detail helps.
4. Specific notes on what happened during the fight and what steps you did are appreciated as well.

[cedar bloom]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

Can’t paste the code it’s too long

[old orchid]

you can generate the image

+tracker please follow this tutorial to make an easy-to-understand image

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[cedar bloom]

I’ll just take images of my roster

[old orchid]

whatever works for you

[old orchid]

I see the problem

Cheryl is quite bad, don't use her

Since Silver does not have enough firepower to clear Koga quickly, you need to play a long game

You should grind the current events to see if there is any available 3* support candies for Skyla first

[cedar bloom]

Oh I was saving skyla for champion

[cedar bloom]

I got one

Worth to get her to 4 star?

[manic mica]

She's a very good support so yes

[cedar bloom]

Ye Cheryl was the prob

Thnx

I only have one dark bruh

[cedar bloom]

Who’s a good dark?

[old orchid]

Nanu is a good fodder

He even has 60% flinch and defense debuff

You can bring an offtype dmg dealer against Will

[cedar bloom]

K

Wait 60???

Tf

[old orchid]

He has Critical Sting

But you have to bring a crit support for him

[cedar bloom]

Don’t got a good crit one hm

[old orchid]

You can still get away with 30% flinch

Focus on the dmg dealer instead

[cedar bloom]

Hm who to run

[old orchid]

I don't know either, do you think who works best?

[cedar bloom]

Oh acerola only sandstorm but alrdy used my ghost

With Cynthia

Brendan?

[old orchid]

It's fine to repeat types, as long as you are still within 12 - 15 range

Brendan is a good choice, but he needs Dauntless

[cedar bloom]

Breh

Got it in 2

I’ve spent 16 on ho oh

Ain’t no way

Damn one jynx unite just cooks me huh

Do I use solgaleo for him hm

[cedar bloom]

Tryna beat fighting one n I’m struggling

[old orchid]

+helpfaq

[frozen depot]

Help our Helpers here provide you with better assistance by following these steps:

1. Fill out this roster tracker https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/ using this video guide : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
2. Tell us what stage you're doing, this includes also the round and your parameters if it's on Master Mode.
3. Footage is important, show screenshots of your team or gameplay where it fails, every detail helps.
4. Specific notes on what happened during the fight and what steps you did are appreciated as well.

[cedar bloom]

.

Using machamp + serperior + idk who so just ran bugsy

[old orchid]

you want to run a spdef buffer so the team can endure much longer

[left storm]

Arc Leon when

[near coral]

Finally got around to just beating the Johto League and wow was it so much easier than Hoenn could be. Only Koga was somewhat annoying

[fading cradle]

fire weak koga is notorious in the johto stadium

but yeah johto is like a baby compared to hoenn

[near coral]

Got to use 3 different types next week to fully complete the badge

[cedar bloom]

What I do with this

Who’s the best to use?

[mellow linden]

Pick the parameter from the previous 4 rounds that best suits your team of choice

[mellow linden]

Kris or Cyrus would be your best bet for Water damage

[clear breach]

Champion Stadium please come more early I need more of your resources 😡

[undone ether]

2 more resets o/

[fading cradle]

i need to unlock master mode so badly

i havent been doing anything in poma bc no master mode

[old orchid]

good

[fading cradle]

[clear breach]

Did this for funsies

[fading cradle]

average rei experience

[undone ether]

o-o

[gleaming jolt]

Without +3 Crit, Riley's Max Move did a tiny bit of damage!

[clear breach]

Huh what

[supple reef]

Riley is not Rei

[gleaming jolt]

I mean it was odd to watch!

But yeah it is Rei's moment to shine!
Nvm whatever I said!

[median kindle]

Is this a good team against Bruno?

[clear breach]

If it’s hard mode, then that’s more than enough

[median kindle]

Is there something above Hard mode

[clear breach]

Master Mode

[fading cradle]

hard or master mode, steven in attack form should annihilate

[median kindle]

What’s good for master mode to be specific

[lean lion]

This team can handle either

You're good to go even if it MM

[median kindle]

Thoughts on this team

[lean lion]

Might have trouble with guage and Piers tanking, but you should give it a try

A special def + spd support would work better

Note that you don't have to make mono type teams

[mellow linden]

Karen ideally wants someone to handle all her stat buffs (Sp. Atk. and crit) so she can start debuffing the opponents’ Sp. Atk. immediately

Nessa + either Masked Royal or Sidney is a common dual damage-dealer core for Dark, as a possible alternative if Karen doesn’t work out

[median kindle]

Is Penny a good support

[robust barn]

[lean lion]

Yes

[median kindle]

I’d 3k’d it in one try

Which should I use?

[swift swan]

steven imo

[gleaming jolt]

Gauge will be an issue!
Still try the team with AS Steven

[median kindle]

I beat it with Coballion 3k

Is this good?

I was able to beat the fire home 3k with it

[gleaming jolt]

Go for it!

Koga has a lot of hp

So use as many moves on him as possible!

[fading cradle]

[median kindle]

I completed my first 15k

I really appreciate the help everyone gave me

[true bloom]

Congratulations 🎉

[thorny wind]

Ayyy congrats

[undone ether]

this week's parameters october 14th, 2024 Week 216

huh half sync interesting

[fading cradle]

ewwwwwwww 😷

whose idea is it to keep including half sync

[keen jasper]

Half sync?

DeNA being chads

[undone ether]

i think i'll stream my dailies

[thorny wind]

Half sync my beloved

[fading cradle]

yay master mode unlocked

[toxic cobalt]

Woo! Nice

[cedar bloom]

Who to use

I have normal poison n big left for medals

[trail smelt]

Half synced Lance just because haha

Ready for next week

[swift swan]

i forgot today's a monday

updated

[toxic cobalt]

What is big?

[pine schooner]

Another 15k this week

Struggled a bit with Will but I just changed the parameters a bit to win it

[manic mica]

The D in Johto stands for difficult

Also first time unlocking Johto mm so...

[true bloom]

You have many good sync pairs XD

Johto wasn't as hard as Sinnoh or Kalos

[sick inlet]

Did you not visit Hoenn

[true bloom]

Ohhh

Hmmm I don't remember having much trouble in Hoenn

[sick inlet]

[true bloom]

I guess Kalos for me because I was still early in the game XD

[sick inlet]

If I were to personally rank which is more annoying to face early in the game
The order would go
Hoenn
Sinnoh
Kalos

With Kalos only being below Sinnoh because it doesn't feel as bulky

The rest is all easy

Kanto Unova Johto Alola all free in comparison

[true bloom]

True, I don't remember having difficulty in Kanto, Alola and Unova too XD

We need increased difficulty with different prize>:D

[sick inlet]

Yeah they were introduced before all the power creep happened

That's why they keep pushing the MM limit though

It was not 3k per battle

It started 2000 or 1500 even

My memory isn't serving me

They gradually upped the limit because they were getting easier and easier

[true bloom]

2000 CS

[gleaming jolt]

||No genpool against Karen! ||

I think you can try again by replacing Tina with Lyra!?

[true bloom]

Eh I already hit 15k though? 😂

It's alright XD

[gleaming jolt]

Yeah ||Tina is a genpool||!

[true bloom]

Oh I mean in one of the stage Koga stage, sorry if it's unclear 😅

[gleaming jolt]

No! It's me who is dumb!

[manic mica]

Wasn't the limit 2.5k per battle as well?

[true bloom]

I wish I'm old enough in poma to know

[manic mica]

I've only been playing for a month lmao

[toxic cobalt]

The limit used to be 1.5k

[thorny wind]

After the brutal solo last week against Fire Weak Koga, this was 0 RNG. Feels good

Wait.

Does EXR count for this

I accidentally left it active for NC Red

[left storm]

No

[thorny wind]

Oh okay

TIL

[sick inlet]

Thank you, I was doubting my memory immensely

[sick inlet]

No, that means all your Sprint, Field and Multi units can get free 200 pts! Make sure to take advantage of this when you can

[thorny wind]

I just did with SS Gladion now

Glorious

[sick inlet]

Gladion is a Strike unit...?

But anyways, SS Gladion beats the stage in 3 clicks so it doesn't matter

[thorny wind]

...wait you are right

[lean lion]

Or does this if you wanna bother with clicking more than 3 buttons

[thorny wind]

Okay I thought he used Close Combat here. It's just Rock Smash

[thorny wind]

I did this multiple times before so I tried solo this time

[lean lion]

Same but reversed

[sick inlet]

I didn't screenshot my clear I was absolutely baffled, I was doing my solo and seeing what I will need to be doing
TM -> Move -> BMove -> time to buff speed... wait it's over?!

[thorny wind]

I buffed speed first lol

[lean lion]

Yup very similar experience when I soloed with Gladion few weeks ago

[thorny wind]

Oh wait you did TM > Move > B Move

I went Move > TM > Spd > B Move > Move

[sick inlet]

I did Literal 3 clicks

And my parameters

Are not pure pre-sync

[lean lion]

It's the same with Geeta vs poison weak

[sick inlet]

So they have some bulk

[thorny wind]

I could have tried that 3 clicks first and be done with it

[lean lion]

3 clicks and stage is done

[thorny wind]

But eh Bruno is dead

[sick inlet]

Me and my Poison struggles will never know that feeling

[lean lion]

Inb4 the Fairy AF has Gladion's bmove with infinite refreshes on sync

[sick inlet]

Just spam Bmove like Cynthia

[thorny wind]

Not full solo this time but it's fine

I didn't know Will has Impervious so oops at putting him at Round 4

[sick inlet]

Or instead of spamming
I can shamelessly plug

[thorny wind]

I could actually have went that route lmao

[sick inlet]

Get lucky
#1011213509071208451 message

[thorny wind]

Is your Silver 1/5

[sick inlet]

Yes

[thorny wind]

[sick inlet]

The only 1/5 in the list though

[thorny wind]

Oh wait you put him at R1

[sick inlet]

Yep

[thorny wind]

Mine is also 1/5 but R1 was already used

I wanted to destroy Koga

[sick inlet]

Red can solo any round in Kanto

Any ice weak round*

As long as it doesn't say Hoenn And Sinnoh you're good

[thorny wind]

Also my issue at why I wasn't able to do Diantha solo

[sick inlet]

Diantha needs a lot to start actually doing anything

[thorny wind]

Ye but it has solo potential at half sync param I think

[sick inlet]

Probably, not that I want to try

[thorny wind]

I could but I'll probably forget it because of LG

[sick inlet]

Me: oh shit I was doing LG

The rally is occupying my brain atm

[thorny wind]

I'll do Rally next

[trail smelt]

Lol yeah my jaw dropped when I saw Will had impervious LMAO

Didn’t matter though SSRynthia still slammed him dead

[clear breach]

Ofc there’s an ice stage

[sick inlet]

It's Johto though you will sweep it

[clear breach]

N I hate you so much why do you keep missing your freeze shocks

[left storm]

How come diantha didn't solo

She can do it 1/5 with an eggmon

So at 3/5 it should be free

[thorny wind]

Oh I know it has potential. But haven't got the time to tweak the params more

If I remember I could retry

But atm I'm at Battle Rally

And then LG soon lol

[left storm]

Oh DW I do 3 tries at most too

If I can't 3k in 3 tries with a unit I add another unit

Until I win

Oop wrong vid

All MFs are 1/5

[thorny wind]

I do think Half Sync Param is the best for Diantha

But I want to destroy Koga so he gets that param

[fading cradle]

does rock weak karen always queue x attack all before syncing? it’s messing up my quadqueue

[old orchid]

according to pomatools, yes

[fading cradle]

yikes that’s why ☠️ those things are so much quicker to queue

i’m doing her r1 (half sync param poopoo) and i keep failing to quadqueue her LMAO

she ends up wiping nc silver when she’s at like 5% hp, think i need to start bringing in vfalkner to deny her turns

IF that’s even possible 😭

[old orchid]

[fading cradle]

or someone with poison…

[old orchid]

or just remove some defensive params

[fading cradle]

i dont think i have any defense params on her

1/5 nc silver sometimes doesn’t do the job quick enough

[old orchid]

even Strength 1?

[fading cradle]

i have that on her

[old orchid]

remove it then

[fading cradle]

and replace it with what?

[old orchid]

you let the team survive through the sync right

[fading cradle]

nc silver dies to sync

her x attack all keeps messing up my quadqueue 🥲🥲

[old orchid]

that's interesting...

i have never seen it before

[toxic cobalt]

How doe sit affect quadqueue?

[fading cradle]

idk if i’m messing up my timing or anything, but she’s always able to queue it before i can queue silver’s bmove even though they both should use no gauge

[toxic cobalt]

B-moves take time to unlock

[old orchid]

do you mind recording a quick gameplay

[fading cradle]

yeah lemme see if i can

[lean lion]

can still be qqd though

[toxic cobalt]

It's tough

[old orchid]

it's possible, it just needs to be precise

[toxic cobalt]

For NC Silver I quadqueue his normal move, then B-move after

[fading cradle]

huh, i’ll see if i can do that (once i’m out of class ☠️)

wait wrong vid i think hold on

(surprised that even managed to send)

[lean lion]

Start with Sandstorm on Cynthia. You'll get sync in one turn. Silver syncs outside Rock Zone but you get a whole extra turn to finish the fight. 2 if you land the quad queue.

can also make them squishier by dropping str for atk since Karen wont get a chance to attack anyway

[bold hazel]

What's the ideal order to face the Elite 4 this time to avoid buffing them?

[undone ether]

check the pins on who to avoid and be cautious on.

[gilded apex]

Easiest 15k I’ve done in a while. The hardest battle was definitely Karen, 1/5 ss diantha is great, I can’t wait to get her 3/5

[bold hazel]

How do you check pins?

[clear breach]

+pins

[frozen depot]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[fading cradle]

thanks again trout

[covert badger]

on type csmm yippee

finally got a chance to use paulo and hes fun :)

also steel weak stage means i get to do chores while arc steven autos it

[median kindle]

Who else should I pair?

[clear breach]

Someone that can probably give him 3+ crit and 6+ attack if he doesn’t himself

[median kindle]

Is Shauna good

[median kindle]

Who should be the 3rd pair?

[mellow linden]

If you have Egg Sylveon for Fairy Zone then that, otherwise a gauge Support would be the main thing

[median kindle]

I don’t know where to find hatchmon

I’ve only been able to see a few of mine

[mellow linden]

The “switch view” button

[median kindle]

Yesterday I hatched a exxegcute but I don’t see it for some reason

And not long before I hatched a shiny psyduck

I know this doesn’t exactly have anything to do with CS but I’m just curious about what happened to my eggmon

[old orchid]

I did tell you to visit the day care yesterday

This menu only shows pokemon you have formed a sync pair with

[trail smelt]

Did you make sure to form a sync pair with them?

[mellow linden]

You need to go to the Day Care tab like Gakon said and actually form a Sync Pair with the chosen eggmon

[median kindle]

Found them

Unfortunately I don’t have any Eevees

[gleaming jolt]

Just use a gauge support as Cobalt said!

You don't have to monotype CS, it limits the team building!
Use pairs who can buff Def/SpDef/Speed or debuff opponent Def/SpDef any other thing to help the Damage Dealer!

[median kindle]

Decided to add Sycamore

[mellow linden]

Sycamore has anti-synergy with Diantha

You don’t need to monotype

[median kindle]

In R4 pairs get rebuffed if they faint

Debuffer I mean

Would Rosa and Serpeior be better

[old orchid]

just don't let anyone faint

you want to bring a bulky support

that helps the dmg dealer

[mellow linden]

If you haven’t used Skyla yet then she’d be a good pick for the 3rd

[median kindle]

Who’s more bulkier Skyla or Penny

Trying to figure out who should be 1 or 2

[mellow linden]

I’d put Skyla as the better option here since she won’t prevent quadqueue and buffs Speed faster

[median kindle]

Who should my last pair be

[old orchid]

idk, maybe a dmg dealer?

[median kindle]

Which one?

[old orchid]

who do you think would be a great choice?

[median kindle]

Gloria is the highest damage dealer I have according to the tier list

[old orchid]

the tierlist does not reflect Gloria's strength correctly

[clear breach]

Tbf you can pretty much beat that stage with just Lillie and Steven

[old orchid]

because the tierlist Gloria is judged on her 5/5 performance

[clear breach]

I’d say to just use MC Solgaleo for dmg dealer

[old orchid]

i'm trying to teach them on how to pick a dmg dealer by themselves

[clear breach]

Ohhh

Sorry

[old orchid]

all good, Solgaleo is my go-to choice too

[median kindle]

I’ll use my avatar and sogaleo as the striker

I forgot about him and forgot he was Exd

Easiest 15k ever

[main crow]

Such a funny team for half sync

[idle warren]

Should this team be able to beat r1 bruno

[keen jasper]

Having Maylene is redundant

[proud axle]

That team might even be able to get 3k

[idle warren]

Not sure who else to put, last time i used arc steven but i dont wanna do that again so early

[proud axle]

Well, once you swap Maylene out for someone possibly more useful

Got an egg Sylveon for fairy zone?

[idle warren]

Lemme check

I do not

I think round 1 is just too hard for me rn idk

[old orchid]

You should try to plan your teams first

[idle warren]

Like in detail?

I have a sort of general idea of who I wanna use for what battle (as a damage dealer) but I have no way of knowing if they’ll work until im at that stage

Like i wanna use ss hilbert for koga but i just got him

[old orchid]

We can help you with giving feedbacks on your ideas

[idle warren]

Well rn im thinking about fighting will for round 1 instead

With this team

Giovanni isnt expanded

[old orchid]

That doesn't matter, cuz he doesn't get one

[idle warren]

Oh alr

[old orchid]

I would replace Sawyer with a spatk support

[idle warren]

Would rosa work

She feels squishy though

I could use sycamore here actually

[left storm]

This is pretty harsh as you won't use that ghost zone at all

Since victors sync multiplier is negated by impervious

[idle warren]

Impervious?

Ohhh

He cant use haze

Dang

[proud axle]

He can but only on the sidekicks I think

It's weird to specifically snipe a sidekick with sync, though not unheard of

[proud axle]

Could try something with SSHilbert (powerful attack) plus Ghetsis (debuff and massive sync snipe) plus a buffer like Sycamore (strong gauge support)

I usually pair Ghetsis with Pryce, though, so Glaciate+Icy Wind can ruin enemy Speed faster for Ghetsis' snipe to scale up

[idle warren]

Ohhh I didnt even think to use pryce lol

I should look at more of my 3 and 4 stars huh

Kabu is there cuz i didnt know who else to use for crit buffs

Is bp surge any good, i kinda wanna use him with shauntal

[proud axle]

Hm, there are some other Fairy Zone pairs. SS Hau? (Technically electric type)

[idle warren]

Didnt pick him up

[proud axle]

BP Surge is p useful for a freebie pair, ye

[idle warren]

Is it worth using my last bp ticket on

[proud axle]

Might depend on whom you already have, what move levels they're at, and whom still remains at 0/5

[idle warren]

Hmm

I think im just gonna get him

[mellow linden]

BP Surge doesn’t do much for Shauntal, btw

Crit buffs is really the only thing, which lots of Supports can provide

[proud axle]

Yeah Surge is more similar to Sonia Jr., for phys attackers

[left storm]

Nope

[mellow linden]

Just wanted to mention it in case that helps any

[left storm]

It gets somehow blocked

Because haze is aoe

[proud axle]

Are you sure it wasn't from the No Stat Reductions thing

[left storm]

I'm pretty sure I had it off

[proud axle]

Because I used SSHilbert to Metal Sound the sidekicks to set up Renegade Cynthia's sync nuke on them

Works as long as I aim it at a sidekick, it will spread to the other via Ripple Effect (though it will skip over Will due to Impervious)

[left storm]

Yeah I guess I just aimed on mid

Back when I tried

[idle warren]

Wow yeah that was a waste of a ticket

Shauntal is still not doing much damage

[proud axle]

What did you grid Shauntal for

[idle warren]

Maybe i do have to brute force with steven or something

Her first grid was for shadow ball spam

[proud axle]

I thought Shauntal was one of the better 4stars with the right grid build

[idle warren]

Then i switched to the sync move one

Maybe im using her wrong idk

She did more damage with shadow ball but i cannot survive two sync moves

[proud axle]

Among other things, Round 1 here has the hardest stage parameter for CSMM

So you'd bring your most confident team for it, and perhaps take a postsync score set

[idle warren]

Makes sense

[proud axle]

This is gonna sound weird but do you have Oleana? Thinking about using Venom Drench shenanigans against Koga to very easily set up Ghetsis (not necessarily as Round 1)

[idle warren]

I dont

[proud axle]

Darn. Hm

[idle warren]

Doesnt janine have that move though

[proud axle]

Yes but Oleana does it 3 times per turn

[idle warren]

Oh

Yikes

[proud axle]

Oleana can poison all enemies without using a turn at all (Max Move) and she has a passive that triples the debuffs from Venom Drench

She's highly specialized but she works very fast at what she does

Hm... Who are your best Special attackers in the fairy type? Including offtype pairs that happen to have Fairy attack moves (e.g. Lisia/Altaria)

[idle warren]

I think my only fairy special attackers are like

Sycamore and valerie

And mina

I have lisia too

[proud axle]

This is, once again, gonna sound weird. But I'm thinking SSBlue+Sycamore+Lisia for Round 1 vs Bruno

Sycamore syncs first to buff Lisia, Blue syncs second for Safety Net

[idle warren]

Hmm alright

[proud axle]

Blue's X Def All may help you weather Bruno's phys-heavy damage. Lisia and Sycamore together can do a trick where Sycamore gives the team regen, Lisia uses her TM to taunt aggro off the tank (Blue) for a few turns while the tank regens a little, and then the taunt expires so Lisia can regen a little

Two pairs Moonblasting may just be enough to win

[idle warren]

I got pretty close with this method

Maybe i need to get some gear to give me an edge

[proud axle]

Lisia means you can get +150 pts (or free up 150 pts elsewhere) by giving the enemy crit shield. She can just Defog it off in the setup phase

(Despite the equivalent main-series effect, Lucky Chant, not being Defoggable)

Also, there are no Strikers on this team. Free +50pts for triple damage on Strikers

[vague solar]

Damageless 3k on the quick sync round woo

[proud axle]

If they give Resilience to the Paldea League, a lot of strategies are in big trouble

[left storm]

I'd kneel

It would be based beyond belief

Finally mono Eggmon clears will stop being feasible

[graceful oriole]

cs lvl 2 when

[sturdy elk]

https://youtu.be/QSWKO8ByaDo
Just doing more Arc Steven propaganda

[karmic zephyr]

Is something wrong with these parameters?

I'm trying to 3k Bruno pre with Sonia, BP Valerie and Tierno

I've tried other combos too. Like Aron Vespiquen

I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. Is the team wrong? Are the parameters wrong?

I know I need someone that buffs crit. That's why I use Valerie's TM on first turn and then I used Aron's TM. But it never worked

[fading cradle]

support sync pairs take 3x more damage is on, and you have 2 supports in that team

that’s making the supports more squishier

[karmic zephyr]

I took that off and put 2 50s

and replaced Sonia with SC Steven

[vague solar]

Does Tierno break through the damage reduction parameter? If not then the phys damage 50 point thing might hurt

[mellow linden]

The 50-point Damage Reduction parameters just set Reflect (Physical) and Light Screen (Special), which are both ignored by critical hits

So with proper teambuilding those are just a free 100 points in total

[karmic zephyr]

I just can't do it though. And that probably means my team isn't good

This Valerie really does nothing even at 3/5

[vague solar]

Wait fr??? I’ve been treating them like damage reduction lol thank you

[mellow linden]

The only ones that actually act as a damage reduction modifier are the Damage Reduction 8 parameters

Physical for 100, Special for 100, and Standard for 300

[clear breach]

Are you using her sync nuke grid?

[karmic zephyr]

yes

she still doesn't do enough damage

sc steven does help her though

so maybe I should change Tierno

[lean lion]

Are you alternating between Sword's Dance and Play Rough?

Make sure you have SEUN for both syncs atleast

Or Valerie's sync if supp EX first

[old orchid]

It's actually better to use Sword Dance right before the sync only

[karmic zephyr]

I tried poison stalling but it didn't work 😭

Also tried to off type pre sync with ARC Cynthia and it didn't work

At this point it's a skill issue 😂

[toxic cobalt]

Impossible

[karmic zephyr]

I know 😭

But for some reason they won't reduce their hp after a point. Even though it's starting to work normally

I feel like because the presets are for 2.5k, and I want 3, I just add the wrong parameters

But for poison stalling I was very confused

Because I know I'm just supposed to poison and then survive until everyone's hp is 0. Which sounds very easy

[clear breach]

Arc Cynthia should be able to off type it.. did you have Standard Damage Reduction param on?

[karmic zephyr]

No 😭 just the 50 one

It's definitely a parameters issue

[supple reef]

Poison stall is quite literally max hp, min damage, crit resistance, and whatever residuals you need to make it to 3k picking all defensive buffs for the enemy

I almost always throw gradual healing in there as well, as long as you have good defensive supports it makes a difference of a couple turns on mid and that’s it

[karmic zephyr]

I used oak nidorino, ariados and seviper

[supple reef]

Janine is redundant on that team and Oak is not the best defensive support since eventually his healing on your allies will run out

[karmic zephyr]

So I should try tank supports

[supple reef]

yes - if you’re using Lucy you have all your statuses covered so defensive supports and preferably one with Synchro Healing should take up the rest of the slots

so it’s just protect the Lucy at all costs

[toxic cobalt]

3/5 BP Morty is a real stalling champ

Leaf is good at all move levels

[supple reef]

yeah BP Morty would be my #1 suggestion from f2p - recuperation tanks can also work decently if you’re not concerned about losing an accelerated clock but Synchro Healing would be the most straightforward way to do that

[karmic zephyr]

I definitely feel like I'm too tired today and can't think clearly. Because I know it doesn't make any sense that I couldn't clear it and I tried 3 different ways. So thanks for all the advice and I'll try them tomorrow

[lucid sandal]

I have 6 types left to clean up (Dragon, Ice, Bug, Ghost, Normal, Grass). Any tips on which pairs I should use?

[old orchid]

can you send your roster here please

i assume you haven't faced against any E4 yet

[lucid sandal]

Not yet

But I was going to use this against Will

[old orchid]

Will is immune to debuffs, you should replace Ghetsis with someone else

[lucid sandal]

Should I use SS N?

[old orchid]

how does your Ghost roster look like

[lucid sandal]

Lemme see…

[old orchid]

he suffers from the same issue as Ghetsis, but i think he can work well

can't confirm until you actually try

[old orchid]

your Ghost should crush Will easily

[lucid sandal]

Might use Ren. Cynthia

[old orchid]

use Anni Lillie + Aaron + a gauge friendly Ice

Cynthia works but mind you that she is a bit awkward and she can't debuff the middle enemy

[lucid sandal]

This is my Ice roster

[old orchid]

you can try SS N as an offensive option, or Melony as a defensive sub tank

[lucid sandal]

I kind of want to use the Maison lady with Regice because of explosion

[manic mica]

That only works if you die , and you're most likely not going to die

[lucid sandal]

So…something like this?

[manic mica]

That should work yes and make sure to change tactic so Aaron gets hit first , Melony second and Lillie third

[lucid sandal]

Alright

Now I just need to figure out Grids for Lillie and Melony

[toxic cobalt]

1/5 won’t have much grid

[manic mica]

You can check out #1009587872342478908 and also Lillie will not need a grid

Since at 1/5, you can grab all the tiles and still have energy leftover

[toxic cobalt]

Honestly melody just needs troublemaker, and might not even need that

[lucid sandal]

Alright, the team worked out. That just leaves three types left

Dragon, Normal, and Grass

[toxic cobalt]

Against who?

[lucid sandal]

I haven't decided

Might do it against Koga or Bruno

[toxic cobalt]

Ramos does the same things as Melony (sleep), Leaf is a versatile support if you have her

What are your dragons?

[lucid sandal]

My Dragons, Grass’, and Normals

[toxic cobalt]

Ah, C iris will also work on any team

Looks like you just pick your strikers and work from there

[lucid sandal]

I think I’ll go…

C. Iris
Gio Persian
SS Leaf

[toxic cobalt]

Why that team?

[manic mica]

That team has no support if I'm not wrong

Just remember you don't have you use all three types in one battle , you can use one type per battle from where you're at

[lucid sandal]

Dunno

Just random choice I guess

Could always swap out Leaf with Ramos, though

[manic mica]

Have you read the team building guide yet?

[lucid sandal]

Nope

[manic mica]

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a / striker or a tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

[old orchid]

You NEED to decide a dmg dealer for each round first

Slapping 3 random pairs on a team won't work most of time

[manic mica]

Build your team around a damage dealer

See what buffs your damage dealer needs and who can provide it

[lucid sandal]

Well, let’s see…

Iris is equally strong in physical and special

Persian Gio gives a Sp. Atk and Atk boost, and provides extra crits. Ramos has sleep, so that means there’s more opportunities to attack

That’s my logic

[old orchid]

Iris has very low dmg, so you shouldn't rely on her dmg

[toxic cobalt]

You need to build a team when thinking about the stage they are fighting.

[old orchid]

Ramos has sleep yes, but the team is too slow for him to keep sleep locking enemies

[manic mica]

Also , you don't have a support to tank hits

Iris is mainly a debuffer

[old orchid]

Correct, the simplest solution is using an ontype dmg dealer, then bring someone to counter the stage's gimmicks, if there are any

[old orchid]

Classic Giovanni is a support, but he doesn't have good bulk for support's standards

[manic mica]

For example , you can use SS N , and use a good gauge support who can tank fully buff your DPS (SS N) and then use a filler for one of your types.

[manic mica]

Ah my bad sorry , wasn't aware , he didn't look like a support from his kit

mb for ping aswell

[old orchid]

I don't mind, really close your front door

[lucid sandal]

Ok, so it didn’t work for Koga

But
The team worked for Bruno

They kept targeting Dawn who kept herself alive, letting Iris and Giovanni chip them down with damage and, in Iris’ case, rendering their attack moot

[toxic cobalt]

hard mode is as hard mode does, i guess that's the types filled

[lucid sandal]

Now to clean house with the nuke teams

And that’s all done.

[idle warren]

im going a little insane can they please stop having this be round 1

[left storm]

Half sync?

[idle warren]

yes

im getting really close to beating bruno with sycamore, lisia, and ss blue

i adjusted my parameters a bit cuz lisia can defog and i dont need weather but still

[fading cradle]

half sync is ass i agree

[left storm]

You're using one of the worst fairy types in the game

Use literally anyone else

Like mina

[idle warren]

well ive tried with bp valerie

and no dice

so idk

[left storm]

BP val would work miles better yea but mina can atk drop if you need it

[idle warren]

ill try with val again and if that doesnt work ill use mina

[left storm]

Also idk what syca is doing exactly there

As stage is physical

[idle warren]

for his sync move

wdym

[left storm]

Why do you need the sync

[idle warren]

for lisias dmg

oh u mean his spdef is wasted

[left storm]

Yeah

[idle warren]

i didnt really think of that

[left storm]

If you swap to BP val swap syca for someone else

[idle warren]

i was just thinking fairy aura and easy +6 spatk would be good

yea

[left storm]

Aura is only on himself

So it's kinda ehhh

[idle warren]

ohh

This feels a bit greedy but this should work right

I only have like 3 other support ex

[left storm]

Valerie setups by herself

Doesn't need Sonia at all

Just grab something like BP clemont

To drop Def

And hasten blue buffs

[idle warren]

cant get clemont

i could use lenora though

[swift swan]

That works too

Tho imo Sonia is also fine, she has defense crush after all

Just spam tackle

[idle warren]

lenora got one shot by the sync move lol

idk if im doing smth wrong but a lot of my characters feel so squishy

could 3/5 dawn & torterra work as a secondary support?

[clear breach]

Do you have support 3x damage param on?

[idle warren]

ill double check but im 100% sure i do not

[manic mica]

Params seem fine , mind sharing a screen recording of your battle?

[idle warren]

with the team i sent?

as in lenora val and sonia

or dawn val and sonia

[left storm]

It's one of their few ex support

[left storm]

Well Lenora is fighting weak

So I'd avoid

Esp on half sync

[idle warren]

oh im so stupid

ty

[manic mica]

You're having trouble Quad Queing , slow down the game if needed to do so , and if you're relying on your healing then I'd recommend turning off the healing param

[idle warren]

can u explain what quad queing is

[clear breach]

+quadque

Uhh

There’s a command on it that explains

[manic mica]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[clear breach]

Ah so I just spelt it wrong 😭

[toxic cobalt]

You can also send them to sleep instead of running two supports

[idle warren]

Should I give up on using valerie?? Even if I get rid of hitmonchan I still die to earthquake from conkeldurr

Or rockslide from medicham

[idle warren]

Also thanks

[toxic cobalt]

Why are you not clicking a move for Valerie on round 2?

[idle warren]

Cuz sonia is gonna sync

[toxic cobalt]

So?

There’s a two times you waste turns with Valerie on that video

[idle warren]

Isnt that un optimal

Whenever Im watching clears they always stop using moves if the sync countdown is up

[toxic cobalt]

Only if the enemy already has a move queued

If you need two moves or one move then there’s no reason not to do 3

[idle warren]

I see

I could sneak in some play roughs then?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, and you can go for the sides a bit as you can survive one sync

[idle warren]

Ooo okay

Ty

[left storm]

You're also not using Val move even tho you can on t2

[idle warren]

What move

[left storm]

Anything

SD

Probably

[vague solar]

Spent way too long getting this run

BP Valerie is crazy fun

[idle warren]

I dont think this csmm is possible for me lol

[lucid sandal]

Valerie woke up and chose violence that day

[true bloom]

You can post your roster here and maybe we can help!

[left storm]

This is one of the easiest regions

[toxic cobalt]

Thé CSMM is possible

[fading cradle]

you just need the right params and a good working team

[molten sorrel]

which params should I choose when trying to complete csmm

and should i gear teams with only types theyre weak too?

[clear breach]

There’s different types of params you can use, there’s a doc or something on pins about it

[molten sorrel]

i see alright

[clear breach]

Presets that’s what it’s called

[molten sorrel]

is doing 3k points just to get all the rewards for completion?

[vague solar]

You don’t need 3k to get the main rewards, you’re fine with way less

[manic mica]

Yes , although it's not recommended to go for 3k on your first attempt

850 is the best way to start as it gets you all the good rewards and it's not that different from hard mode

[fading cradle]

at 4.2k points is where you get all the important rewards anyways

so that’s ~850 points per stage

[gleaming jolt]

Iirc they are returning player!

Can try atleast 2.5k

[molten sorrel]

yeaa i am returning

i still need to freshen up on what sync pair does what and move order

all that

[mellow linden]

850 is still a fine starting point for a returning player to reacquaint yourself with the mode, you can always reset and do a higher-point run later

[gleaming jolt]

Watch some youtube videos maybe?

[mellow linden]

There’s info on enemy stats, moves, and passives via the pomatools link in the pins

For the opponent’s 1st Sync cycle (assuming no countdown screwiness or interruption) it goes Center -> Right -> Center -> Left -> Center -> Center’s hard-coded before-Sync action -> Sync

[molten sorrel]

will do

[manic mica]

And after that , the Center will always attack unless Flinched or Killed if I'm not wrong.

[gleaming jolt]

Oh I almost forgot that I still have CSMM to do this week!!

[manic mica]

that hurt me so bad

[idle warren]

if anyone still wants to help, these are all my sync pairs

[bitter veldt]

Idk if your Arc Cynthia is caked, but if it is, I guarantee you she should be a guaranteed 3k points for one stage. Just have any two sides die(preferably buff supports) and finish them off w earthquakes after your Cynthia sync.

[idle warren]

she does have her role cake but im hesitant to use her so early

i usually save her for champion if i can

[bitter veldt]

champion is the "easier" usually because you can add a parameter to your advantage against the champion.

let me see if i can show.

[fading cradle]

anni lillie and arc suit steven should be able to delete lance really easily

[bitter veldt]

A very "bare, tight" one, but just goes to show how arc cynthia is THAT good. she don't even need no support sync buffs. Just rrestart if koga does physical damage, then your meganium most likely will die in 1 hit (unless you have her leveld up to 140 maybe).

https://streamable.com/jzxwkf

And I'd use her "early" to get that 1st parameter reduce sync for all out of the way. Unless you think you can kill ASAP with any other units but I don't think so.

[vague solar]

Ghetsis can 3k Koga with decent support too on the move gauge round

Even without an ex

Valerie can put in work against Bruno if you can deal with the sides

Arc Steven can literally solo the champion 3k

[vague solar]

Cynthia is free for r1 like they said

[bitter veldt]

actually for the first parameter, they should use Victor Shauntal(OR Allister? idk i dont even have him yet) and Barry instead.

Save Victor's B-move after sup buff

that shiz hurts lol. ive had my ghost team of victor shauntal and brendan before.

[bitter veldt]

I actually couldn't with Valerie. Tried for fun before once

But I don't have her exed. just fully potentialed.

[vague solar]

True the ex really helps

[bitter veldt]

OH I forgot

I have her at 1/5 lmfao

i didn't candy her

that's my prob

[vague solar]

LOL that explains it

She’s mad fun at 3/5

[vague solar]

Got this run with her

[bitter veldt]

i saw lol

[vague solar]

But for this one

Ghetsis + sycamore + like SS Hilbert maybe?

With good params it should work

[molten sorrel]

woah howd u get that view

[sharp willow]

Thats from the sync pair tracker

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[idle warren]

Thank you so much! Gonna try this now

[idle warren]

After putting all my sync pairs together, I filtered for ‘have’ and then I rendered an image

Using the tracker*

[idle warren]

Can I ask what params ur using here

[bitter veldt]

it's in the video at the end butttt let me see

[idle warren]

Ty

[idle warren]

I beat it! Ty again for all the help, gonna move on to round 2

[gleaming jolt]

Late!

[near coral]

Only just got my Stadium clear today and not going to try master mode

[swift swan]

there's still time, you can try doing a few battles for the rewards, at least

[old orchid]

You can start warming up with 850 pts per stage, which is basically the same as hard mode with some minor disadvantages

[rapid osprey]

alr lets clear this medal

will (ghost)

• +defenses
  koga (ice)
• +evasion
  bruno (fairy)
• pure phys
• stat mirror
  karen (rock)
• phys shield
  lance (steel)
• +crit
• -def

im thinking lead bruno for rush sync with sycamore; gauge koga; added effects karen; faint penalty will?

[toxic cobalt]

Depends on your teams more than the opponent but doesn’t really matter

[rapid osprey]

yeah for medal clear def not

but im also thinking i'll be running similar comps/order for csmm

oh right i have penny now

hmm

maybe will for rush sync then

gives him less time to imperv buff

hm. added effects karen, thinking kukui for sync but not really sure who to pair him with

bertha for sand and ??

god i always forget torterra doesnt have sand shelter for some reason

[rapid osprey]

alr so to build on for csmm clears

will: victor exr ssr cyn kiawe
koga: cheryl ghetsis bp clemont
karen: bertha kukui ex dawn
bruno: ex penny l lillie aaron
lance: exr riley exr 5a lillie exr arc steven

karen is the only one that's rough tbh

koga is scuffed but not Bad

[karmic zephyr]

are the round parameters same for next week too? or will they change?

[fading cradle]

they change every week

[karmic zephyr]

do we know next week's or not yet?

[fading cradle]

we only know once they’re out

[karmic zephyr]

oh okay

when the enemies are poison weak (next week's Will), do I build my team as poison stall or as poison damage dealer? Meaning, are any poison damage dealers f2p and worth it?

worth it as in, do they do enough damage to clear one such stage for 2.5-3k

[bitter veldt]

Yeah it's literally SUPER easy 3k.

that's even weaker than previous Champion Wally's poison weakness which he was at 7.

[karmic zephyr]

okay cool then

I'm in the process of creating teams now so I'll see how this one goes

[bitter veldt]

my free poison stall team. could be yours too. lit everyone has them

Unless you missed Oak's recently but sure you got him.

[karmic zephyr]

I have him and used it on Wally the other day

worked just fine

[bitter veldt]

It'll be easier than Wally so yay.

[karmic zephyr]

When I say "it" I mean this team

okay cool

These people love to watch us suffer

every other week, someone is bug weak. istg

they see how much we struggle and keep doing this 😭

I'm very bad at creating teams. I'm leaving all my good pairs for last and end up with overpowered teams

okay time for my teams

Will: Janine, Lucy, Oak
Koga: Roxanne F2023, SC Steven, Rika (I know this one doesn't have a striker but wanted to try Roxanne. I had saved ARC Cynthia for later but turns out she's in no team so might as well replace Rika for Bertha and Roxanne for Cynthia)
Bruno: SS Acerola, Morgan, Selene (I've never used a grass striker before so I'm not very confident about this team. Selene was my only option. Might have to off-type if it doesn't work)
Karen: NC Marnie, SS Brendan, NC Bede (I know this team has no business being this strong it was just whatever I had left off)
Lance: SS Cynthia, Chase, Iris alt (I don't know how to feel about this team, haven't tried Iris or Cynthia before)

I left ARC Steven, SS Lear and anni Lillie out this week. Might be a bad decision

Maybe I could off type Bruno with them because I don't feel confident with my Selene team

if anyone could give me any feedback I'd appreciate it. Most pairs are 1/5 btw so bear that in mind

[bitter veldt]

Do you have all the arcs?

[karmic zephyr]

no just Cynthia and Steven

but Cynthia is 3/5

[bitter veldt]

So Cynthia is already a guarantee 3k even at 1/5.

And the poison stall covers another 3k

[karmic zephyr]

against Koga?

[bitter veldt]

Cynthia has been a guarantee 3k ever since I got her...

And didn't even need the supp sync buff.

so don't worry

AND you have her at 3/5

you'll have even better time than me

the only time was that Glacia's week when she could destroy my Cynthia. I needed to pair her up with Lance.

[karmic zephyr]

I have a hard time picking the wrong parameters after 2.5 😂

[bitter veldt]

But you can assume Cynthia as a guarantee 3k even w.o. supp buff( just have supps at least get hit enough or even die for her to sync in time)

[karmic zephyr]

Why don't they just make a 3k preset. That would help me so much. I know it's because every team is different/has different needs but that would help me

[bitter veldt]

It's your parameters then 100%

WAIT KOGA's weak against ground..... next week.

[karmic zephyr]

yeah

[bitter veldt]

there's NO need for you to worry even the slightest

that's literally 100% guarantee 3k

[karmic zephyr]

I was mostly worried about the others 😂

[bitter veldt]

you have arc steven that's another 3k. just put ANY steel dmger. He can even lowkey kill them solo lol.

and yes off-type even.

[karmic zephyr]

like anni lillie

[bitter veldt]

So that leaves you just two 3ks to worry.

Oh yeah lillie i usually pair w Arc Steven.

[karmic zephyr]

1 can be covered with Marnie

[bitter veldt]

just to get a fast clear

they're 1000% 3k clear even off-type (and even against ground attackers that lillli'es weak against)

so idk what you have to worry lol

[karmic zephyr]

I know, I cleared the costume event with them

[bitter veldt]

i think your roster should be set for an easy 15k

[karmic zephyr]

well yes and no. Like I said, I have a hard time picking parameters

this week I really struggled

and heavily relied on rng

I couldn't beat Bruno with poison stall or Cynthia

So I just pick the wrong ones after 2.5

[bitter veldt]

go for off-type pre sync parameters.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r2iVMWPUxVYYVxA-VLIN1Bl6QDFiVQNju1MUai3CKbE/edit?gid=726715248#gid=726715248

[clear breach]

That’s why there’s presets and you can add the parameters that fit your team to get to 3k

[karmic zephyr]

I know I use the presets

But still after 2.5, I have no clue what to add

[bitter veldt]

gotta know what those parameters help

like arc suits are easy +points on extra dmg dealt to Striker, Tech, Supports. 2 of them cause u'll need 2 to just do moves to get ur sync cooldown up asap.

that all depends on your team that you make

[karmic zephyr]

I just make a team and I'm like " that works great in theory" but when I try it, I get deleted after a few seconds

[karmic zephyr]

like I know some of these teams sound stupid or don't work as intended for me

[clear breach]

I mean most of CSMM Teams are trial and error

[bitter veldt]

Well, yeah try your best.

But your roster def looks

[karmic zephyr]

ty I appreciate that

[bitter veldt]

More than enough to clear 15k from my exp

[karmic zephyr]

But it feels like I'm trying and it never works out 😭

[bitter veldt]

I've also suffered bc of this. Trust me.

[clear breach]

Yup I was suffering doing the Steel Type Pasio Stadium one

[bitter veldt]

I didn't even try CS seriously until I got Arc suits. I even SKIPPED 2 weeks because of getting stressed about it. Couldn't even fill 18 types for Alola 2 months ago.

with my ONLY limited pair being SS deoxys and GEN pools....

[karmic zephyr]

I want Deoxys too

[bitter veldt]

But after getting arc suits, 15k was just given to me guaranteed since then. 😛

and now CSMM is a simple weekly chore that I have no worry about clearing... (couldn't imagine that back then).

[karmic zephyr]

I'm still not to that point yet and I feel concerned

[bitter veldt]

I recommend pre sync imo. Quickly killing them before they even launch their sync that kills you is my way to go.

[karmic zephyr]

I try that

This week I struggled so much

[bitter veldt]

my round 1 was a breeze from what i remember... do not remember the parameter...

you can do it!

[karmic zephyr]

damn this Steven!

He's so OP in whatever pair he's in

[bitter veldt]

yeah I just put in Tate and Rosa just for whatevs. Their job? JUST to do ANY moves to get sync cooldown down asap.

[karmic zephyr]

mhm

[bitter veldt]

Deoxys just needs to nuke fast and they just get obliterated.

A sprinter would actually even help better but my roster not really full of sprinters.

[clear breach]

The event is already over and I’m saying I was suffering but I did end up getting the 15k done 😭

[bitter veldt]

oh i was encouraging Signora. xD

[clear breach]

Oh sorry 😭

They messages were linked together so it looked like you were still talking to me

[bitter veldt]

lol

[idle warren]

Im trying to off type will, I got pretty close using sycamore - giovanni - sawyer but im not sure its worth it

Anyways, I was wondering if theres a better character I can use other than lenora?

[bitter veldt]

That's not ideal

esp if you don't have lear exed yet...

[idle warren]

Dang

[bitter veldt]

and no sup exed to give sup buff.

There IS a very "barely" difficult team for a ON-type that I suggested. you do need an ex supp though.

[idle warren]

I could ex him rn but i think i should get another support first

[bitter veldt]

Victor, Shauntal, and you had that lapras exed i remember.

do you have ANY exed sup?

left

[idle warren]

Yeah I have a few

1s

[bitter veldt]

then you're good

[idle warren]

Ill try victor, although I dont think he can nuke properly because of impervious

[bitter veldt]

perfect. you could even use barry he gives sp atk buff.

it's a HARD barely done one though. but the sup buff does make it possible

victor himself is not enough. add shauntal or another ghost damager

[idle warren]

Hmm

[bitter veldt]

or actually

[idle warren]

Is it better than this team

[bitter veldt]

that's......

impossible

[idle warren]

Pretend melony is sawyer*

[bitter veldt]

and you don't even have mewtwo exed yet

[idle warren]

Its r3 so I have the secondary effect chance up so he can spam flinch

[bitter veldt]

and he's not GHOST nuker

he's a base psychic type

[idle warren]

His shadow ball was doing decent dmg

[clear breach]

Yeah your gonna die before your shadow balls get the chance to kill both middle and sides

[idle warren]

I just couldnt survive a 3rd sync

Damnn

[bitter veldt]

i have better idea

since you have lear

lear+victor+barry/melony(either)

[idle warren]

Is learning just there for his buffs

[bitter veldt]

lear will def buff victor well that may make it more easier

[idle warren]

Ok ill see how it goes

[bitter veldt]

pretty much but save victors b-move AFTER ur sup buff

it IS 450 a good damn damage

[idle warren]

Alr

Wait my victor doesn’t have a buddy move

[bitter veldt]

sorry i meant

the mega move

or x

whatever its called

[idle warren]

ohhh

Okok ty

[clear breach]

Dynamax move

[bitter veldt]

have a feeling its still girigiri based on your parameter.

just found out will does add def and sp def+1 and is impervious. That actually makes victor not viable for against Will.

[rapid osprey]

yeah for will you want to give him as few chances to buff as possible since he cant be reset/cleared

[idle warren]

Yeah idk if this is possible

Oh I just read what u guys said

[bitter veldt]

U have Lear

Just use him as the DMG er

[idle warren]

Should I off type with him

Alr

[bitter veldt]

Do you have any other DMG left

[idle warren]

I do

[bitter veldt]

Yeah he's already great off type

Ok lear nd some other DMG with your sup should

I tried Lear victor and Rosa and got it

But my Lear is exed AND caked.

Turns out victor wasn't even one doing the most dmg

Lear himself is so strong even off type

[rapid osprey]

do we think exr ssr cyn can outdamage +hp params?

[bitter veldt]

I haven't tried. I never and hate giving them HP +

I never touch those

[rapid osprey]

couldnt be me lol

theyre free with enough damage

[bitter veldt]

I go for max strength+s obv and IF need be I'll add maybe +1 def but still almost never. Only when I need to fill the gap for 3k

I like to kill them fast and move on lol

[rapid osprey]

i think this week is gonna be a 10k, so i need to find 2k points somewhere

[bitter veldt]

Do you have them arcs?

[rapid osprey]

im not wasting an arc on will lmao

[sharp willow]

on-type at 3/5 mine has done max hp/str before, but Will as a stage is awkward for her since you can't get smarty pants set up

[bitter veldt]

i would "waste" an arc on will for a 3k freebie. he's the only one that has sentry and wise out of all.

[rapid osprey]

yeah, mine is 2/5 still so no smartypants but zone + stats feel worth

doing will first for quick enough first sync w/ the free zone off of bringing victor also leaves room for error/i can set up seun from a failed shadow force into will sync if need be

[bitter veldt]

yeah that's a smart move. i also suggested someone else above to do first parameter on will since everyone has victor free.

[rapid osprey]

but yeah if mex can do max hp/str then thats the info i need to head into this, ty!

... dumb q, is the crit defense param a shield? or is it equipping them with vigi?

if its a shield and im running a defog/shield break team anyway im realizing thats free points i couldve been taking lmao