there’s a 2.5k point params in the pins depending on how you’re planning to beat the battle
#Champion Stadium
old orchid
literally what Melissa said
idle warren
Continuing csmm today
Last time I got about halfway with this team
@ 2600 points
But I dont think its gonna work
Should I cut down to 2k or should I try different characters?
fading cradle
hop doesn’t really help cyrus with his necessary buffs
idle warren
Yeah thats true, I just dont think I have many crit buffers that can take a hit
Maybe ill do glacia first
fading cradle
what round is this?
fading cradle
I havent bothered to clear the weather or anything
you definitely want to clear weather
if you don’t, drake gets a huge boost
idle warren
Oh yikes
fading cradle
change the weather to something that’s not rain (i’m assuming raihan can do that)
idle warren
Alright, I guess the rain isnt helping cyrus since im using his crit grid
Yeah he can do sandstorm or sun with his max move
fading cradle
you should probably be using his spatial rend grid since this is dragon weak drake
fading cradle
gl! you can also send your params if you’re still struggling
fast bough
First 10k run
fading cradle
nice! that’s pretty solid
fast bough
Bertha was a huge pain, so had to sick Arc Steven onto her
fading cradle
Bertha was a huge pain, so had to sick Arc Steven onto her
agreed, steel weak bertha is incredibly painful 
left storm
Wish she had anything but hs1
idle warren
Tried using her because she happened to be 3/5 and I was putting the sun up anyways, not sure if this is it either
left storm
Makes her annoying to two cycle in 3v3 or one cycle in 1v3
idle warren
My params:
fading cradle
Wish she had anything but hs1
hs1 makes her harder than necessary
they could have given her weather passives, easy to replace weather most of the time, no it had to be hs1
left storm
hs1 makes her harder than necessary
Running -3 cd does make Gloria destroy her more easily but still
fading cradle
Tried using her because she happened to be 3/5 and I was putting the sun up anyw...
lyra seems to be pretty frail for a support, not sure if she’s the best choice
idle warren
Should I go back to hop
fading cradle
do you have any supports that can raise spatk and crit rate?
idle warren
I have morgan
Cyrus raises his own spatk but should I not use that move
Cuz it takes ho
Hp*
sick inlet
Hmmm
If Drake doesn't get Rain Gear, you don't need to remove weather as long as you can pre-sync clear
idle warren
Im not sure if he does
But I did try that before with hop and anni raihan and I couldnt beat him
fading cradle
that rain boost will still hurt though bc they’re doing drake r3 with the perma field effects
fading cradle
id probably watch out for twister though which is aoe
i dont think twister is THAT huge of a threat though
sick inlet
Cyrus raises his own spatk but should I not use that move
What's your remaining supports? And is Cyrus grid expanded?
sick inlet
id probably watch out for twister though which is aoe
You kinda want twister as it makes the tank's job easier
Aoe = dmg divided by 3
idle warren
What's your remaining supports? And is Cyrus grid expanded?
Cyrus doesnt have grid expansion
Maybe I should just fight him round 4?
sick inlet
She got what she needs
You can use permanent reflect
And buff Cyrus
(heal him while at it)
What other dragon damage dealers do you have?
Well your dragon roster
I mean Hop can carry but I want to use someone cheaper 
sick inlet
Yeah no
We sticking to cyrus
This is what I have
Third can be a better tank than Sabrina
Aka Hop
Or something similar
I don't want you to use Hop cause you might need him in the next w rounds
idle warren
Thats true
Maybe I just fight him 4th round
And then kill one of the other two first?
Kabu is actually able to tank drake pretty well
sick inlet
If you do it round 4 you miss out on permanent reflect
rapid osprey
ok so. olivia clear 1 was bp falkner – grimsley – hop so that i could remove the phys shield with defog. he also helped with his tm for speed and aoe debuff from air cutter trip up + overwhelm, but is there someone who would slot in better? considering larry or someone who can drop def on sides since grimsley is pretty much there to keep clicking screech, metal burst once for the evasion, and sync nuke
rapid osprey
brought molayne to just kinda vibe alongside darach and steven and yes his nuke is good but he was so very much just along for the ride lmao
now that that's done, i can do this week's actual stadium
alr so we have +sync buff, +spec, ∞field, -fnt, and +debuff; i could do fighting or dark zone for r3 or i guess maybe rain for sidney?? need to recheck my bugs
oh wait no not sidney this is his dark wish kit
ok yeah glacia r3 for fighting zone with ssa cyn; drake is prob best for r2; so then between bug and ghost not sure who i can comp better with my sprints for +sync buff but since phoebe has sentry entry and ssr is my ghost exr thats prob gonna be easier to go supp heavy for sustain on -fnt
grizzled harness
If I don't have pretty much any toons from 2022 onward do I still have a decent shot at doing CS 4.2K runs? I'm new to master mode in general but heard that and 2.5K were the first couple to go for
manic mica
If I don't have pretty much any toons from 2022 onward do I still have a decent ...
All the good rewards stop at 4.2k for beginners so it's a good idea to aim for that first , and yes , it should be fairly simple regardless , feel free to ask for help here if needed
grizzled harness
Ok sweet ty! Still figuring out just how far out of the meta I am. Missed a lot in the past couple yrs 😆
manic mica
Check the pins for 850 pts parameters
mellow linden
4250 total (850 points per stage) can be done with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode
idle warren
trying the r3 drake fight again
should i give up on clearing his weather and instead have cyrus use hydropump with his rain grid?
rapid osprey
should i give up on clearing his weather and instead have cyrus use hydropump wi...
no, you would still want super effective spatial rend over hydro pump if you're running cyrus with rain grid
idle warren
so i should stick w/ crit then huh
rapid osprey
youre bringing someone to give him +3 crit right?
rapid osprey
tbh i think you should just not do drake r3 then
idle warren
i see
rapid osprey
you need to be strong and confident to keep his rain
idle warren
then for r4 i should get rid of drake's teammates first?
rapid osprey
raihan is both sun and sand
rapid osprey
so if you have him he would be a much better choice for this fight than cyrus
idle warren
i have 40 spirits rn
rapid osprey
and have you done any of the special stadium yet?
rapid osprey
ok
1/5 raihan is not nothing, but since you missed the cyrus event and he's not ex you definitely dont want to be using him here
who have you used already for 1 and 2?
idle warren
maybe i should off type then
rapid osprey
honestly, im thinking your best move if you really want to do drake r3 would be arc cyn + raihan
that gives you 4 uses of sand and 1 use of sun to overwrite rain
idle warren
i used SC Barry + Skyla + Colress for sidney
And then Lenora + SS Lear + Sawyer for phoebe
idle warren
honestly, im thinking your best move if you really want to do drake r3 would be ...
i guess that makes sense yeah
i was gonna save her for the champion battle but
i can probably beat that with just lillie and AS steven
rapid osprey
ok. if you have yet to use sygna blue, he can cover your defenses + finish maxing raihans spatk
idle warren
ty for all the help
rapid osprey
so you might not need cynthia, but she can carry you if you're concerned
idle warren
had to use cynthia and blue but i beat him, now on to glacia
fading cradle
super random, to everyone who played all 7 regional stadiums, how would you rank them from hardest to easiest? i havent played all of them yet since i’m yet to complete johto’s stadium for the first time ☠️
paper summit
Hoenn, Sinnoh and Kalos are the ones on the high side of difficulty because they have significantly more gimmicks going on
Kanto, Johto and Unova are fairly simple and on the other side of the balance
Alola is sort of in the middle
fading cradle
so
- kalos/sinnoh/hoenn
- alola
- kanto/johto/unova
makes sense, the hardest 3 regions have tons of annoying gimmicks. though the easy regions still have their fair share of gimmicks (johto’s), yeah?
paper summit
well, you can compare the number of passives in pomatools, the difference is very apparent
Johto and Kanto are overall very easy, only a couple outliers like flying weak Koga with mixed defenses, or fire weak having extra bulk (tho this one is pretty much a staple trait for that weakness regardless of the region), and there is Lorelei that likes buffing evasion, especially on fighting weak were some units have accuracy issues at base already
there are other examples but still nothing compared to the harder regions
in any case, someone with a developed roster and good knowledge of the game will not struggle with any region, even less if you clear on type all the time, there may be a reset here and there because of an unlucky one shot the enemy lands at you or a missed move and such but you get the idea
fading cradle
i do have notorious memory of lorelei, the evasion buffs were pretty annoying
i havent had the chance to completely see all of johto’s stages since i was pretty bad at cs back then (i would throw my most powerful units at one elite four member and ditch the rest of the stadium), i’ll definitely do better now that i know what i’m doing 🤡
rapid osprey
johto and kanto were the original stages, so it also makes sense that the ones added later would be more difficult/use more complicated strategies
iirc its kanto johto unova alola then sinnoh/hoenn i think in the same cycle and then finally kalos
presumably whenever they add galar (or paldea) theyll also be on the harder end
median kindle
How do I know when I’m ready for a 3k run?
left storm
When 2.5k starts being easy
mellow linden
How do I know when I’m ready for a 3k run?
Whenever you feel comfortable doing so. You don’t even have to do 3k if you don’t want to, the difference in rewards compared to 2.5 is minimal
idle warren
Using this team vs glacia
Ive gotten close so many times but the other two trainers end up finishing me off
old orchid
Get rid of Maylene
old orchid
You want to bring a spdef buffer
old orchid
Kabu doesn't buff spdef to my knowledge
rapid osprey
Using this team vs glacia
is this r4 glacia from the drake run before
fading cradle
Kabu doesn't buff spdef to my knowledge
i thought his tm buffed spdef?
oh right, ty for catching that
rapid osprey
kabu would work; lenora could also work but iirc vinny mentioned kabu being ex so hes prob preferable
idle warren
is this r4 glacia from the drake run before
yeah its r4
kabu isnt ex and i already used lenora sadly
rapid osprey
ok yeah wasnt sure if this was the same run
kabu not being ex is fine but since you're only going to be +4spdef the extra bulk would help
blazing flame wheel seems like you should be able to get good healing in tho
idle warren
beat master mode with 12.5k, thanks again for your guys' help
bold hazel
Hi, I need help beating Hard mode! I've already beaten one E4 member, however I made the mistake of utilizing both Cynthia and Anniversary Lillie on same team since I hadn't realized yet that you only got to use Characters once during all 5 battles.
Here's what I have to work with clearing the other 4 battles.
rapid osprey
you'll probably split up sygna lear and arc steven
since sygna lear is special, you might as well use him for this upcoming round
however, i would strongly suggest going and finishing out the legendary adventures to get at least galar (hop/zamazenta) and kalos (sycamore/xerneas)
bold hazel
however, i would strongly suggest going and finishing out the legendary adventur...
I'm willing to grab all of them, so we can consider it as though I already have them in terms of team building for the upcoming matches
old orchid
+legexchange make sure to do this, because i notice your Ghetsis is not 5/5 20/20 yet
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(usable on that pair only)
- Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
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rapid osprey
sycamore's sync will max out spatk, spdef, and speed, so he will give you a lot of value in any of these remaining fights - lear can max his own spatk so i wouldnt pair him there, but for example pairing him with karen against phoebe r4 means you can use snarl to drop phoebe's spatk the first 3 attacks instead of needing to wait for her to lose hp to boost
old orchid
So you have filled Steel, Ground and Electric for the medal. You should aim to register at least 12 types this week to the medal
rapid osprey
he also has excellent sustain for keeping you alive against the faint penalty
rapid osprey
So you have filled Steel, Ground and Electric for the medal. You should aim to r...
12 not 9?
i thought minimum was 9 per week for 18 after 2 and anything above that was extra but not necessary
old orchid
The more types you register this week, the less stressful you feel next week
rapid osprey
also, isnt hoenn over this week
so it doesnt matter either way bc it resets after cycling out
old orchid
Next week is still Hoenn
rapid osprey
huh, had my calendar wrong. mb
so then if we're using our spare type slots for arc steven, 5a lillie, and sygna lear to overlap
we want to maximize our remainig diversity
you probably want to do glacia round 3 since she's the only one of the remaining 3 who doesn't set a terrain, so you can control the field more
so then sidney round 2, with lear as your dps. snarl is blocked by gholdengo's impervious; you can bring darach for +speed, -atk, and clearing the dark zone sidney will set before his sync
any of your supports who can buff your defensive stats will work, so we'll wait to pencil this in to see where we need other type coverage
for glacia, you don't have a ton of units who set wtz, but you can use silver from the johto legendary adventure to set sun, then pair him with one of the grass types with sun synergy. alternately, you could use blaine and a different dps, but i think silver will fare better
alternately, you could pick up ghost with acerola and go for a sandstorm build
wait no she's weak to ice
sun team it is
so then you can knock out fire grass rock by doing gordie silver rosa - gordie can give glalie fire type rebuff to make silver's moves hit harder; at 2/5 rosa can get mpr on both her tms
you can also use gordie's gmax move to set a permanent stealth rock right at the start of the fight - thats probably more helpful than the max flare here, since once silver sync will give you solarize for infinite sun. just dont use his tm before he syncs for the first time
so now we've got
- drake: ground electric steel
- sidney: flying steel
- glacia: rock fire grass
- phoebe: dark fairy water
- steven: steel
so thats already 10
looking at phoebe, her sync is phys so we want someone to add +def to sycamores full special coverage
you didnt show any of your 3* units, but someone like marlon who can just throw out x defend all and be done for the fight will be fine
he does slot in for water, but we have arc steven for steven so we should be fine
bold hazel
you didnt show any of your 3* units, but someone like marlon who can just throw ...
Here's my Three *s! Thanks so far, I'm following along, you are a massive help!
rapid osprey
awesome, ty! and ofc, happy to help
trying to talk you through it so you can understand the logic of it for your own future teambuilding
bc i have 100% done the same of using a pair too soon and going aw beans
ok perfect your marlon is 5/5 so you can grid him with mpr on xdef (you can give him more than just that if you really want but thats the important thing here so that you can max defense)
so then for sidney we want that third slot to be one of normal, ice, fighting, poison, psychic, bug, ghost, or dragon. oak/nidorino for poison would be good, since you get lots of spdef from him and you're somewhat covered on phys by darach reducing attack
bold hazel
ok perfect your marlon is 5/5 so you can grid him with mpr on xdef (you can give...
What does MPR stand for?
bold hazel
this tile on marlon's grid
Okay, grabbing it now!
rapid osprey
if you want to give him a full grid, i would do something like this, but that tile is really the important thing here. sycamore will be our tank
and then for steven, we have two slots for that same type list minus poison. aggron using screech on arc steven will just boost arc stevens defense and should protect your other teammates from defense drops, but to be safe if they happen to have unbending as a passive or on their grid you can pick that up
arc steven can get aggron (and teammates) to -2 due to sentry entry 2 and xdef all, so other units who can drop defense can be useful in complementing him
we could bring oak/mew for unfortuitous 9 on swift for -1 to a random stat on every enemy each turn and psychic; we could bring one of the rock smash fighting units (both marshall and brawly have awful defenses, so i might use maylene since she should be able to hold up to a stiff breeze/bulldoze should it come her way); if you want to do something really jank you can reset for aggron to use x defense all on the first turn and bring brycen so that you can haze away that buff for steven to get everyone to -6
if nothing else you can bring drasna, set up toxic on all 3 and then just stall them out - arc steven can 100% do that
so that leaves you at:
ground elec steel
flying steel poi
rock fire grass
dark fairy water
steel [psychic/fighting/ice/dragon]
i dont think you have a viable bug or a particularly helpful normal; next week will have a ghost weak phoebe so you can probably use allister there for ghost
but yeah for non-master mode you should be ok. if you run into trouble with any of these just lmk and i can try to help!
bold hazel
but yeah for non-master mode you should be ok. if you run into trouble with any ...
Thank you Very Much!!! It's so appreciated, I'll begin making some attempts and I'll reach out if I need help anywhere!
So to quickly make sure and wrap my head around my game plan,
Sidney Round 2: SS Lear and Darach, Oak/Nidarino
Glacia Round 3: Gordie Silver Rosa
Phoebe Round 4: Sycamores Marlon (what should Third be?) Karen
Steven Round 5: Seems I have quite a few different options, such as Arc Steven Aggron and Brycen. I like the Drasna Toxic method you mentioned since it seems really funny to end by stalling poison with Arc Steven! What would the Third teammate be for that option? (For Poison method, Arc Steven, Drasna, Oak/Mew)
Also, I'm curious since you mentioned that I don't currently have a viable bug or a particularly helpful normal, is there any Bug/Normal units you recommend I save for? Or any units in general I should go for based on my current account?
rapid osprey
Thank you Very Much!!! It's so appreciated, I'll begin making some attempts and ...
for phoebe, i mightve glossed over too quickly but your striker/dps there is karen
karmic zephyr
How do you guys feel about this team against Sidney?
Aron, Lisia, Guzma
rapid osprey
for steven, if you want to run the toxic option then i would go arc steven, drasna, and oak/mew
rapid osprey
How do you guys feel about this team against Sidney?
Aron, Lisia, Guzma
do you mean against sidney?
karmic zephyr
do you mean against sidney?
Ah yes lol. I'm dumb 😂
rapid osprey
ur good i do the same all the time
karmic zephyr
so this team is good? Let me try it
rapid osprey
oh i meant
the typo
but
the team seems ok
do you have something in guzma's grid to max his attack, or are you planning to use aaron's tm
karmic zephyr
yes I have him at 5/5
rapid osprey
guzma's spdef is Really low so that snarl might hit a lot harder than intended if you cant truly nuke sidney from orbit
karmic zephyr
Let me try it
rapid osprey
o7
rapid osprey
Thank you Very Much!!! It's so appreciated, I'll begin making some attempts and ...
and to follow up on the bug/normal thing: truly good bug types are few and far between, but the bigger issue in a cs setting is that theyre often (as i just mentioned with guzma) extremely frail. which makes sense for how they exist in the base games! but also makes it harder to use them unless you have the right kinds of structures for them
so like, viola can do decently well paired with sycamore to max her spdef and spatk, but even then super effective struggle bug is probably not doing as much damage as neutral dazzling gleam
guzma/golisopod is 100% a glass cannon, and lusamine is something beyond a glass cannon into like. a mica cannon. you look at pheromosa wrong and she faints
aaron is one of the most versatile units with well-rounded stats (somewhat to his detriment, since he doesnt really need spatk) but hes also not a damage dealer, he's a support
for next week, you can probably bring viola along for either wallace or glacia to knock out your bug; she can control spatk while your dps focuses on dps-ing
as for normals, there are a lot of solid normals. you even have at least one of them (leaf), just not at a high enough move level to really unlock her potential. my leaf is ex and her global stat boost along with a doubled sync buff helps a ton with teams who appreciate a little all around rather than one focused form of buff
the snorlax units (red and anabel) are very solid supports as well
you can pick up lodge wally for a utility support since he gets growl; lenora in the general pool would be another useful addition for leer (and i believe she drops both def and spdef with that)
but since normal is never going to be super effective, theres just a narrower window for them in general and they somewhat rely on having a stronger core, which you're in the early days of building to and don't necessarily have yet
median kindle
Which Dragon should I use as a strike pair?
rapid osprey
for another example, your 1/5 gladion could be a potential part of your drake team next week since you want to bring both a hail setter and someone who can deal damage, but candice cannot deal damage and she'll take up your ice slot. if gladion were 3/5, you could grid him with vigilance so you could give him snow shelter as a lucky skill rather than needing to give him vigilance as a lucky skill
rapid osprey
Which Dragon should I use as a strike pair?
for drake and kingdra? it depends, how are you planning to deal with his weather gimmick?
median kindle
I’ll probably just change the weather
fading cradle
changing the weather is pretty much necessary to stop drake from getting a boost from rain unless you can cheese him before he can sync
rapid osprey
I’ll probably just change the weather
yeah uh. i mean that as 'what of the 3 other weathers are you going to use to counter it'
bc that will affect who your best option is
swift swan
Which Dragon should I use as a strike pair?
EX (and I assume powerboosted) cyrus should work fine
median kindle
yeah uh. i mean that as 'what of the 3 other weathers are you going to use to co...
Sandstorm or Sunny Day
But I plan on using Cyrus and Palkia EX
so which would be the better weather
lean lion
Sun, you don't wanna deal with Sand chip on top of enemy damage
median kindle
EX (and I assume powerboosted) cyrus should work fine
I’m using Morty and HoOh for support and sunny so who would be a good 3rd pair?
median kindle
Sun, you don't wanna deal with Sand chip on top of enemy damage
Gotcha
karmic zephyr
can you help me understand what's wrong with this team? I'm going for 2k
Maybe if I replace Lisia with Hop Zamazenta?
lean lion
If you can KO Absol before it sets Dark zone, you won't need Lisia
But replace her with another bug damage dealer instead
lean lion
I’m using Morty and HoOh for support and sunny so who would be a good 3rd pair?
Either a 2nd damage dealer or someone who debuffs special defense for Cyrus
lean lion
My only other bug damage dealer is Lusamine
Noland works
karmic zephyr
Noland? Not sure if I have him
lean lion
Also what params are you using just I case?
karmic zephyr
I need to recheck them
swift swan
can you help me understand what's wrong with this team? I'm going for 2k
Lisia doesn't contribute to anything
Guzma should be able to nuke hard enough
Nuke left, nuke mid, DPS right
median kindle
Either a 2nd damage dealer or someone who debuffs special defense for Cyrus
EX Cyrus and SS Cynthia were broken
I’m using Karen and SS Cyrus against Phoebe who should my Support be?
median kindle
What support should I use?
lean lion
Chase, unless you need him for another fight
median kindle
Nah I don’t he’s perfect
rapid osprey
please next region be johto, i am SICK of hoenn 😭
fwiw the pattern has been pretty much consistent since kalos was added
so johto then kalos is almost definitely up next, unless they decide to add galar (or paldea)
fading cradle
how will galar stadium even work ☠️ there’s no e4, do they just champion cup this shit
rapid osprey
i mean
they managed to make alola work
alola but champ is always leon instead of champ varying
fading cradle
alola has an elite four, the final boss in the champion’s chamber just depended on the game
rapid osprey
i mean
i would describe the 6s as game variation and alola as a bit more going on
but like, youre guaranteed to fight marnie, hop, (bede but not as part of the e4), then nessa, bea/allister, raihan
so having it be either hop/bea, hop/allister, marnie/bea, or marnie/allister for the four weeks, then nessa raihan and leon stay the same
fading cradle
are any of the gym leaders guaranteed? ik the three rivals are guaranteed in the initial champion cup match
thorny wind
We will get Blueberry Academy CS before Galar CS
rapid osprey
i mean
thorny wind
rapid osprey
thats also possible
but all the units are in place for galar
hop is either dubwool or corviknight; marnie is either morpeko or ig scrafty since her grimmsnarl is fairy not dark sync; nessa can finally have her gmax drednaw, toxapex, a water golisopod, or quagsire; bea can have sirfetch'd or gmax machamp; allister can have cursola or gmax gengar; raihan can have flygon, gigalith, goodra, or gmax duraludon; leon can have aegislash, dragapult, mr rime (only galar-exclusive among his starter variant teams), and gmax charizard
hop and marnie's non-core units are in dc; nessa bea and allister all have their ace units at least; raihan has all but goodra; leon has 2/4
rapid osprey
.... did i accidentally speak something into existence
fading cradle
.... did i accidentally speak something into existence
we’ll see partner…
i was skeptical on just HOW a galar stadium would function, wonder if this brings light (why the ex colors though?)
rapid osprey
the thing is, i think gordie is the only one of those that actually changes color?
well avery does under him
but
leon allister and bea all look the same just posed differently
thorny wind
.... did i accidentally speak something into existence
Do you think this is Galar CS?
I actually don't know what this is for
manic mica
IM SICK OF HOENN’S ASS 🤬
Lmao me too
gleaming jolt
Do you think this is Galar CS?
They are not Elite Four though!
paper summit
I hope you are aware Galar does not have E4
that's why that particular region is such a weird case to add in this game
gleaming jolt
So they will use gym leaders?
paper summit
Galar's league follows a tournament format
thorny wind
The first four would make sense but what's with Avery there
Actually what is this even for lmao
paper summit
thorny wind
I still don't get this part of datamine
swift swan
.... did i accidentally speak something into existence
Please 
thorny wind
Apparently it's just minor fix on the art lol
undone ether
koga is getting poisoned with ball guy :X
stiff wing
Having trouble with the stadium and idk who to upgrade at all
swift swan
Hard mode or master mode?
median kindle
I completed my first 2.5k precinct run with new Riley and Player & Coballion
Although it was technically 2.55k
Also i successfully did a 3k against Steven Post Sync
For Pasio Champion who should I pick first
For context I have EX Arc Steven
Wait I just found out you can’t use the sane Sync Pair again for Pasio
That’s not fair
fading cradle
Wait I just found out you can’t use the sane Sync Pair again for Pasio
that’s for all champion stadiums
once you use a sync pair in a battle, you can’t use them again
median kindle
I know but it feels different when they all have the same weakness
rapid osprey
the whole point is that its a roster check
median kindle
Who should I use for each elite 4 and in what order?
rapid osprey
unless you have a very complete roster, you have to be strategic about where you use your units
rapid osprey
Who should I use for each elite 4 and in what order?
arc steven can carry red. he can carry all of them tbf, but its easiest to throw him there
fading cradle
just don’t do glacia r3 i think was the only reminder
rapid osprey
this was my special stadium lineup. i do not have base steven, raihan, or gloria; you dont have poppy or colress
fading cradle
these were my teams, i offtyped the entire elite four
rapid osprey
olivia is the best for r3 because she has 0 special attacks among her kit
old orchid
Remember that you can do offtype or poison stall if things get rough
rapid osprey
and this isnt hse so you dont have to worry about a multiplier for more on-type units yeah
violet timber
Glacia having wise entry is like the most annoying part of the steel staium imo
old orchid
Oh you were talking about Glacia
trail smelt
Yep
Iirc she first appeared when the only special steel was Raihan and his banner wasn’t running either haha
left storm
Not that it matters with 17k ho
Hp
I've punched through her with pre 5/5 expansion Gloria a lot of times
trail smelt
I just flinch locked with her Steven lol
median kindle
Should I use my Unova tickets to pull Colress?
fading cradle
it’s not guaranteed you’ll pull him though
mellow linden
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Probably better to ask questions like that in #poma-questions going forward.
-
You don’t get to choose which pair your get from the regional 5-star ticket scouts, but unless you already have all the pairs in the pool at 3/5+ you should be using those tickets.
fading cradle
it’s completely random from the unova pool
median kindle
this was my special stadium lineup. i do not have base steven, raihan, or gloria...
Which leaf did you ex
Was it SS Leaf or Leaf she Eevee
royal flicker
Is Acynthia can 3k off type phoebe? Or Asteven with 2/5 masked royal can do the job?
rapid osprey
Which leaf did you ex
given how i typed the rest, you can infer its base leaf
sygna leaf or nc leaf wouldve been specified if i had them
fading cradle
Is Acynthia can 3k off type phoebe? Or Asteven with 2/5 masked royal can do the ...
if masked royal is 2/5, he might be able to work
do you have any other dark type damage dealers?
stiff wing
Hard mode or master mode?
Hard
karmic zephyr
Lisia doesn't contribute to anything
so who do you suggest instead of her?
median kindle
Should I first start with Glacia in the Pasio Champioship?
And which Steel offense should I use
mellow linden
When to best take on Glacia depends more on the team you’re gonna use against her
I’d advise avoiding her on round 3 though regardless
gaunt condor
is there any specific strat to go against glacia (turn 4)? (and red too, im sure ill struggle with him too)
old orchid
You want to bring a special dmg dealer and a spdef debuffer against Glacia
For Red, clearing zone is a must to have a smooth clear, and bring a defense buffer to counter his debuffs
gaunt condor
i was told to bring anni lillie for glacia 😭 im cooked
swift swan
i was told to bring anni lillie for glacia 😭 im cooked
She's a good counter against Glacia's bulk, but well you want the zone for Red if you can
swift swan
so who do you suggest instead of her?
A defense debuffer or a secondary DPS
swift swan
Hard
Try building around 5 of your best damage dealers and we'll go from there
+pomatools check pomatools for stage gimmicks
frozen depotBOT
rapid osprey
i was told to bring anni lillie for glacia 😭 im cooked
anni lillie for glacia is if you're doing glacia r1, since glacia sets no terrain herself and even non-ex lillie then gets permanent steel zone
i dont believe she has enough uses to overwrite red's zones unless you either delay her sync or dont use her bmove at all until he uses ice wish before he syncs
and even then he might set it a third time
added effects glacia means you have increased chance of freeze from every blizzard, which is gonna suck
gaunt condor
anni lillie for glacia is if you're doing glacia r1, since glacia sets no terrai...
i feel like i dont have enough good units to clear this tbh
rapid osprey
as explained before, you dont have to on-type the steel stadium
swift swan
You can always offtype
rapid osprey
steel has some incredible f2p units that everyone will have (hop, 5a lillie, mc/solgaleo), and some great units that take a little luck from the genpool (molayne, colress, jasmine, grimsley)
rapid osprey
this was my special stadium lineup. i do not have base steven, raihan, or gloria...
these were my teams - i used poppy in part because i have no og steven, gloria, raihan, rose, or other very strong steel units, which is part of why i picked her up in the first place
the team i used for glacia was very much oriented around being r1 for the permanent steel zone boost, but as long as you can bring someone to protect lillie from freeze (whether by status shield from marley or some other way) and buff her spdef, she lowers spatk so you're covered there
she would also probably enjoy marley's +6 speed from pep rally xspeed all
and you definitely have marley
gaunt condor
how much investment should go into these characters? is ex'ing them mandatory? (i should mention im going for 2200 points per match, that probably why the dmg seems too much)
rapid osprey
the ones i have indicated as ex are the only ones i have at ex
obviously, having an ex striker for aoe sync or an ex support for increased bulk and damage from 2x initial sync buff is huge
but you can absolutely work around it
bp falkner and molayne were both left as 4*
tho bp falkner there was also somewhat bc of the constraints of my particular roster
have you filled out a roster of your own yet?
+tracker
frozen depotBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
gaunt condor
ill fill that up and come back
gaunt condor
tis my humble roster
lean lion
You wanna build separate teams around: AS Steven + someone to replace zone (vs Red), Anni Lillie (vs Glacia), Riley + BP Rose (vs Bertha).
For the remaining 2, you can go with teams built around any two among K Grimsley, Emma and Mix Blue.
gaunt condor
You wanna build separate teams around: AS Steven + someone to replace zone (vs R...
im only missing glacia and red, however i have all those units you mentioned available to make teams with (im saving steven for red)
lean lion
im only missing glacia and red, however i have all those units you mentioned ava...
I meant bring those pairs vs Red, Glacia and Bertha respectively
gaunt condor
i've been trying to defeat glacia with anni lillie, but the dmg is too much and end up dead quickly 😦
lean lion
You'll want to bring a sp def buffer
Hold on
You can go with Aaron, Oak or Lenora. See if any of these work for you.
Also try to avoid giving Glacia any Atk parameters
gaunt condor
is it better to give them bulk instead of damage?
old orchid
Do note that Aaron is weak to Ice
lean lion
Don't pick atk or HP parameters. And since you're going for 2.2k you can get away with just picking some strength. Feel free to share your params here, anf we'll take a look.
Thanks, Gakon! Yeah, don't go with Aaron.
median kindle
When to best take on Glacia depends more on the team you’re gonna use against he...
I think I’ll use Anni Lillie against her
gaunt condor
lean lion
What's the team btw?
old orchid
Don't pick sync cd params unless you are certain you can take her down before her first sync
lean lion
Take away all atk, def and hp parameter. Standard Damage Reduction is a free 300 points since you're doing on type damage.
So are both power on hit parameters.
gaunt condor
What's the team btw?
not sure yet, anni lillie + either oak or leonora and someone else
mellow linden
I think I’ll use Anni Lillie against her
Then the permanent field effects round is a good one to face Glacia on
mellow linden
You should generally try to always avoid Sync Countdown -X parameters
median kindle
Then the permanent field effects round is a good one to face Glacia on
Who should she be paired with?
mellow linden
Follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and make sure she’s getting the buffs she needs
+101 in case you haven’t seen Teambuilding 101 yet
frozen depotBOT
> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.
1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a 
/ 
striker or a 
tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics
2. Choose a support 
to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.
3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!
See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!
gaunt condor
Take away all atk, def and hp parameter. Standard Damage Reduction is a free 300...
ok i did this, im still missing 900 points to 2200 though 😦
lean lion
Show us what you have now
gaunt condor
Show us what you have now
by the way, thank you very much for taking the time to help 🙂 it's really appreciated
lean lion
Go with Strength 1, Sync Buff 5, Ally Healing 5, Gradual Healing at start, Strength 2, Strength 3
old orchid
Can you tell me which team you are going to use? I didn't follow the convo
mellow linden
What’s the team here, real quick?
lean lion
I believe that that's 100 over 2200
gaunt condor
team is anni lillie + probably oak + someone else (i havent figured out the team yet lol)
gaunt condor
Go with Strength 1, Sync Buff 5, Ally Healing 5, Gradual Healing at start, Stren...
yes this gets me to over 2200, ill use this one then!
lean lion
You should really plan out all your teams before going in. Also make it easier to come up with params, since they're team dependent.
stiff wing
Feel free to send your teams here so others can give feedback
That's my thing😭 i don't rlly have any teams yet
My box is very limited rn
gaunt condor
You should really plan out all your teams before going in. Also make it easier t...
would bringing oak + leonora along with anni lillie be too overkill?
median kindle
For R1 Glacia my offense is Anni Lillie & my support is Anni Sawyer
lean lion
would bringing oak + leonora along with anni lillie be too overkill?
Ideally you don't wanna bring two supps. But if it works it works. Whatever gets you a comfortable clear, just go with that.
median kindle
I’m trying to figure out what my middle unit should be
gaunt condor
Ideally you don't wanna bring two supps. But if it works it works. Whatever gets...
gotcha, tyvm 🙌
old orchid
A defense debuffer, perhaps
old orchid
That's my thing😭 i don't rlly have any teams yet
Let's start with showing your roster. Then you pick out a dmg dealer that is great against each stage, afterwards we will help you finish the comps and give feedbacks if necessary
median kindle
A defense debuffer, perhaps
Sawyer is my defense debuffer
stiff wing
That's everyone
old orchid
He is not, he does not debuff defense
old orchid
Let'a move to the next phase: do you think who is great against each E4 stage?
median kindle
He is not, he does not debuff defense
Oh you mean steal the enemies defense
old orchid
*lower the enemies' defense stat
stiff wing
Let'a move to the next phase: do you think who is great against each E4 stage?
Zinnia for drake and everyone else has been confusing me so fsr
old orchid
Zinnia is a decent option, but she demands too many things. I personally recommend Cyrus
Make sure to know about each stage's gimmicks first. You can check the pins for helpful resources
That's how you plan teams
stiff wing
Didn't know abt the gimmicks yikes but oki dokie
So I can either use the rain against him or set up my own weather?
old orchid
You should get rid of rainy weather asap
So bringing a weather setter is a great idea
median kindle
Who should I pick
old orchid
1/5 Acerola is an excellent choice. Not only she has refreshable sandstorm (for other uses), she also has 60% flinch rate when gridded
old orchid
Who should I pick
Try to do experiment
stiff wing
So bringing a weather setter is a great idea
I'll try blain then
old orchid
He works, but there are better accessible options like the one i recommended above
gaunt condor
Ideally you don't wanna bring two supps. But if it works it works. Whatever gets...
Thank you to everyone who helped, I was able to get the candy! Yippee
lean lion
old orchid
Great job
median kindle
Try to do experiment
I added Lenora to my sync pairs and one easily
I’m concerned I used her early
Btw I wanted to ask who is best for R2
Specifically the elite 4
old orchid
What is the round 2's parameter
old orchid
It's only useful for Glacia, and you just cleared Glacia. So you can literally go for anyone
No, Steel weak Olivia is physical focused
old orchid
Ignore that, the ingame hint tells you to use special dmg dealers because she uses TM that lowers her spdef post sync
Which does not play a significant role
That's why we prefer pomatools, which literally tells you everything about opponents
stiff wing
He works, but there are better accessible options like the one i recommended abo...
Gotcha ty
fading cradle
Who is best to use special attacks against <@895250065109712917>
just avoid anyone who utilizes tons of special attacks (glacia) on this round
median kindle
just avoid anyone who utilizes tons of special attacks (glacia) on this round
So it doesn’t really matter
lean lion
It does, that's why you wanna avoid Glacia R3. The round param affects enemy moves as well.
fading cradle
for a param like that, you’re better off using special moves against an enemy that doesn’t have any special moves so you’re at the advantage
rapid osprey
Who is best to use special attacks against <@895250065109712917>
what i told you before was that you should do olivia round 3 because she has 0 special attacks in her kit. this means the stage condition doesnt boost her at all.
the other 3 all have anywhere between 2 and all special attacks in their kit
median kindle
what i told you before was that you should do olivia round 3 because she has 0 s...
I was initially planning on using special boost against Bertha because she had physical reduction
But Olivia does as well so
rapid osprey
one of her side units is all special attacks (until you knock center, at which point it uses rock slide)
fading cradle
i thought rock slide is physical though?
fading cradle
true
median kindle
For R2 should I pick Grimsley or Bertha
rapid osprey
its kit is all special
you can still do bertha r3, but youre giving that side unit a buff
median kindle
you can still do bertha r3, but youre giving that side unit a buff
I’ll give Olivia R3
lean lion
I was initially planning on using special boost against Bertha because she had p...
That damage reduction is ignored by crits so you don't need to take it into account while building teams or picking fight order
royal flicker
Also, can this work for 3k off type?
Help 💀
lean lion
Also, can this work for 3k off type?
Replace Lyra for a sun setter. Try to KO Absol before it sets Dark Zone.
royal flicker
Replace Lyra for a sun setter. Try to KO Absol before it sets Dark Zone.
I only have leafeon, better?
silver dirge
Share your parameters first
royal flicker
lean lion
You can't pick Special DR 8 or Standard DR
Pick atk1, no status conditions, max hp 2 and strength 2 instead
royal flicker
Okay, I removed them
lean lion
Replace Lyra for a sun setter. Try to KO Absol before it sets Dark Zone.
And this
royal flicker
I changed lyra to ss erika
old orchid
you may want to change the tank if Aaron couldn't take hit well enough
keeping SS Lyra is fine, NC Leaf supplies her own sun anyway
just suggesting alternative strategies ^^
lean lion
No i was about to ask you
Go with Gakon's strat Kawaii
You'll need to replace interference immunity
royal flicker
Thank you guys!
Finished it with ss erika, nc leaf, and lyra. Thanks to R3.
Can Asteven and Acynthia 3k off type pheobe with R4?
lean lion
What move level is Cynthia?
old orchid
with good partner they can manage it even with 1/5 Cynthia
lean lion
Steven's weakness also not an issue?
Worst case you may need to reset a few times to avoid Shadow Ball spam
royal flicker
Both 1/5 or this can do?
royal flicker
Steven's weakness also not an issue?
ow yeah....
old orchid
Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2, so those physical Dark will struggle more
you should offtype with special dmg dealers
royal flicker
Nc Red 3/5?
lean lion
Steven would actually help out a lot on R5
royal flicker
I dont have team for Nc Red tho. And R5 is Ss kris with palkia, so i think it's easy.
old orchid
do you have any Ice Zone setter, even egg Glaceon?
royal flicker
Weavile from ticket exchange only but it's only for entry, i think. As for hail, candice with froslass.
old orchid
Candice then, and grid him with hail stuff and sync nuking
For the third use someone decently bulky, preferably who can stack SMUN
royal flicker
Okay, I'll try and experiment. Thankss
median kindle
I’m trying to beat Bertha with Gloria and Hop but it’s kinda difficult
I had Nanu as a defense rebuff
old orchid
i mean the parameters to make oppenents stronger, not the round parameter
flinch is very helpful on R4 because most units have sure flinch rate
median kindle
Do I flinch on all enemies or just the main ones?
old orchid
try to deny many moves as possible
royal flicker
Finally finished phoebe with Nc Red, melony, Asteven 🥳
median kindle
what are the parameters
I’m doing a post sync run
It’s really difficult to use Gloria and no move acceleration
old orchid
Okay but i need to know your picked params
Telling me that you use post sync does not help much
left storm
It’s really difficult to use Gloria and no move acceleration
Buff speed to+4 minimum or use some gauge less side Mon to use Gloria
median kindle
Buff speed to+4 minimum or use some gauge less side Mon to use Gloria
I meant to say Hop and Gloria
median kindle
Okay but i need to know your picked params
left storm
I meant to say Hop and Gloria
I mean hop costs 1 gauge and when freevenge procs he's gaugeless
So it should be manageable
median kindle
I mean hop costs 1 gauge and when freevenge procs he's gaugeless
Wait I’m not supposed to be using behemoth bash?
rapid osprey
Wait I’m not supposed to be using behemoth bash?
if youre using it when you dont have freevenge its significantly less worth
metal claw would be vastly preferable if you have no freevenge bc you can fit in four mcs for the price of one bbash
probably 5 factoring in gauge recovery time
fading cradle
i dont think you should have -1 sync countdown either
bertha already has hs1 so adding that param lowers her sync countdown by 2
median kindle
I don’t know what parameters I should have so I’m kinda cutting corners
left storm
Max hp^2 is also a bad idea
median kindle
Should I remove or keep physical reduction
fading cradle
Should I remove or keep physical reduction
the 50 point reductions are bypassed by critical hits so they’re basically kinda free
median kindle
the 50 point reductions are bypassed by critical hits so they’re basically kinda...
I didn’t know that lol
fading cradle
I didn’t know that lol
how many points are you trying to aim for?
rapid osprey
i mean we do also have a resource you can use
median kindle
As of right now 2450
median kindle
i mean we do also have a resource you can use
I was told to remove Max hp+2 which is included in the doc
For some reason R4 Bertha is difficult
I don’t know if I’m giving her too much strength
rapid osprey
ok but -sync cd is literally only selected for the absolute strongest on type pre syncs
so why would you put that on
fading cradle
steel weak bertha is pretty notorious for her difficulty sadly
median kindle
ok but -sync cd is literally only selected for the absolute strongest on type pr...
I removed sync countdown
rapid osprey
i would just maybe recommend spending some time to understand the logic behind different sets of parameters bc people keep offering you help but you just seem to want the arbitrary score number rather than enjoying/playing the game
this is in the pins for a reason
median kindle
i would just maybe recommend spending some time to understand the logic behind d...
Ok I understand if I find it too difficult I can lower the points
fading cradle
that would be ideal
you don’t want to consistently lose your mind over this game (guilty of that too many times)
median kindle
It’s just that with the previous round I was able to beat Olivia with a 3k and it sucks that I’m having trouble with a 2.45K
rapid osprey
the cs regions were released in the order of kanto johto unova alola sinnoh/hoenn kalos. alola is generally considered easier than sinnoh; sinnoh and hoenn are two of the hardest regions, but usually glacia is not the difficult part of hoenn so bertha is definitely the hardest of the four in the special stadium
if there were any given one of the four you would want to have lower than the others it would be bertha
fading cradle
yeah for an old lady, bertha kicks hella ass 💀 she’s so difficult for no reason
fading cradle
ss bertha fr
rapid osprey
if there were any given one of the four you would want to have lower than the ot...
once you have a wider roster its easier to keep your points level across all stages because you just have more resources at your disposal
rapid osprey
ss bertha fr
also ok hear me out. we have summer bbq dad flint magmortar to pair with his boyf ny volkner
left storm
It’s just that with the previous round I was able to beat Olivia with a 3k and i...
Stages aren't born equal
rapid osprey
so clearly we need fall aaron drapion, winter bertha mamoswine, and... i guess that means pal lucian??
hm
left storm
There's some stages at 3k that are easier than others at 2k
Depending on roster
First of all, base hp difference is huge
Starting with 17-23k is very different to 28.9k
rapid osprey
is the accursed bunny may the only spring unit. maybe we go lucian as the second spring unit bc mans was not built for pal
left storm
Then there's gimmicks, moves, buffs and then the rare wtz before sync stage problem
fading cradle
so clearly we need fall aaron drapion, winter bertha mamoswine, and... i guess t...
pal lucian and gallade
left storm
Then there's gimmicks, moves, buffs and then the rare wtz before sync stage prob...
Depending on each stage and your roster you might have an insanely easy or hard time
At same points
rapid osprey
pal lucian and gallade <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200>
pal lucian and psychic gallade could be fun ill give you that
...
but spring has a notoriously cursed design, so we could have spring lucian and mr mime for maximum 'oh god why'
left storm
As long as you get 4250 anc 10k you're not losing out on to much anyway
Especially for Hoenn and Kalos cs
rapid osprey
yeah kalos i am definitely going to be doing 9.5 max
left storm
Sinnoh has some tough stages too, but less
fading cradle
kalos is tough too…it was a rough time when that became the first cs i fully beat on hard mode
rapid osprey
sinnoh's difficulty is mostly that you often get a lot of wtz control stages at the same time right?
like flints sun + aaron's clear advantage + bertha's sand in the same round can put you into a pinch if you dont have much weather overall
fading cradle
steel weak bertha and her hs1
i personally had a shit ton of trouble with dark and bug weak lucian
ground weak aaron literally takes me 10 minutes to beat. not even poison stalling that guy
flint and his weather and hard punches
bee
rapid osprey
bee
fading cradle
bee
rapid osprey
i cant be mad at sinnoh cs bc i am a sinnoh lover til i die best e4 ever
but also fuckin GOD aarons vespiquen
fading cradle
i’m not even a sinnoh fan and somehow their e4 is my fave 
but aaron’s damn indestructible bee
rapid osprey
im just glad they overall reduced the pain of berthas hippowdon having sand spit
imagine if every hit on the hippo restarted sand
fading cradle
ngl i had issues with ice weak bertha too
rapid osprey
for next sinnoh cycle i have light investment in hala from dc due to how bad my ice roster is so im hoping thatll be easier
esp bc i can then bring candice hala and not need to support a spec striker and phys tech
fading cradle
i dont like how hala slows himself down when he uses ice hammer ☠️ so i just use ghetsis if it’s possible or off type
rapid osprey
real
i will be using him for sync nuke and never clicking ice hammer dgfjkhdgjf
or giving him haste ls
left storm
sinnoh's difficulty is mostly that you often get a lot of wtz control stages at ...
That's Hoenn and Kalos
Sinnoh has mostly sentry/wisex2
And/or healthy advantage/robust physique iirc
left storm
but also fuckin GOD aarons vespiquen
fading cradle
i always have this for when the moment is right
left storm
Also Sinnoh has a lot of
28.9k
Like Hoenn and Kalos
So back when sinnoh was new you definitely felt the spike
rapid osprey
yeah the gulf between sinnoh hoenn kalos and then alola is huge imo
alolas main difficulty for me at least was just kahilis sides packing toxic and burn
and even that wasnt really that bad
rapid osprey
kanto’s only issue for me was lorelei and her evasion buffs
just lodge volkner her ass
left storm
Fun fact is how until Sinnoh Koga was one of the most annoying stages because bro has SECRET WISE ENTRY LOL
fading cradle
~~just lodge volkner her ass~~
lodge volkner can counter?
rapid osprey
Fun fact is how until Sinnoh Koga was one of the most annoying stages because br...
he does??
lmao
rapid osprey
lodge volkner can counter?
hem in 9 B]
fading cradle
some still find flying and fire weak koga annoying lol
rapid osprey
but yeah hem in 9 + unfortuitous 9 on grid, both his moves are aoe with solid para chance on discharge
i usually run this as the grid core with whatever added defenses if the stage needs it when im using him for evasion/stat control rather than needing any of his double down etc
rapid osprey
thats so mean lmao
left storm
Flying weak is also pain
Because lol
Blue and lysandre were all we had til
Well
Nate
Lol.
Leon too ig
rapid osprey
so funny story
when the unova nc stuff dropped
i went
well
unova mult
ive never used nate before
ill put some resources into him for the ebe
fading cradle
would be a shame if i brought nc cheren to the flying weak koga fight…
rapid osprey
he should have stayed in unleveled purgatory with clay and marlon
unova my beloathed lmao
but yeah ex blue is still honestly my best flying striker
i very recently have lodge skyla but itll be a while before i have need to invest in her
left storm
but yeah ex blue is still honestly my best flying striker
Lodge skyla where
rapid osprey
Lodge skyla where
blue has 464 spatk (556 with mega) to skyla's 410
and if i need phys i have lodge serena who is so fun to use
left storm
would be a shame if i brought nc cheren to the flying weak koga fight…
Shit unit ngl
Smh
rapid osprey
lmao
sacred scroll
Cheren washed up
sacred scroll
chrome frigate
For champion stadium i jusy wanna be able to have different teams i namely just wanna brute force it honeslty I have the arc units saved for the final stage so I wanna keep them there any teams nd or other upgrades I should do? Like basic teams that can get me through it is fine if need to upgrade i will
left storm
For champion stadium i jusy wanna be able to have different teams i namely just ...
Arc suits don't need to be saved for last
Each one easily beats a stage
chrome frigate
No ik that I just use them for the last stage so ik I can 100% do it that's why
left storm
....and I'm saying splitting them is easier
Save metagross for last as he's the most splashable
gleaming jolt
For champion stadium i jusy wanna be able to have different teams i namely just ...
Build a team around SST Red, SS Nemona, SS Steven, AS Cynthia, AS Lance
chrome frigate
Yeah i get that I just have more easier time using them together is why cause they get me past like 2k together than separate
gleaming jolt
I think they all can 3k a stage!
So 15k possible i think
Also you can use Riley+Lillie+AS Steven for a stage!
chrome frigate
They can brute force one them selves?
chrome frigate
Ifni reset does it do the whole thing all again?
left storm
Also a heads up
The champion is rarely harder than the e4s
Stage wise
He's just a 5th stage
So saving pairs for it is a waste as it makes getting good score in E4 harder
It's better to get 3 good scores and 2 mediocre ones than 1 excellent score and 4 mediocre ones
chrome frigate
Hm I didn't think of tbat
real vector
Holy steel was on the hard side this time, good thing they released 3 new units kek
worn tusk
Is there a easy order to beat this in
fading cradle
Is there a easy order to beat this in
dont do phoebe r2
the rest kind of just depends on your team and can be fought in any order
grizzled harness
Just curious what some of you used for Sidney in master mode 4.2K? I did Glacia/Drake for r1/r2. Don't really have much for bug. Still getting back into the swing of things, it's been a few lol. I was really struggling to get enough dmg out with off teams. Missing tons of toons but have most from pre 2022 at 3/5+ 😅
For options I went with the big HP ones, no status, physical/special dmg reduction, def/sdef +1 to get 850
*edit Hoenn Challenge
rapid osprey
Just curious what some of you used for Sidney in master mode 4.2K? I did Glacia/...
guzma is most likely going to be your best option. i would take off defenses +1 and the big hp ones and instead bring a bulky support and a defog unit to clear the phys/spec reduction + dark wish. what supports do you have? you might want to fill out a tracker for us to refer to
+tracker
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rapid osprey
for guzma, you can give him this grid, then as long as your bulky support is a unit who can buff his spdef so that he can withstand the snarl you're set
so then to reach 850 (900 actually), you take:
- phys/spec reduction (50 each)
- no status/int immunity (50 each)
- spec reduction 8 (100)
- standard dmg reduction 8 (300)
- sync buff 5 (100) - we're planning to take out center before he syncs the first time
- power up on hit 1 (100)
- ally healing -5 (100)
you can take off one of the 50s if you want, but theyre effectively free
left storm
for guzma, you can give him this grid, then as long as your bulky support is a u...
Why are you even running TM mpr
This is much better
rapid osprey
do you not want him to max his own atk/def
if we're going for sync nuke
first imp into tm tm sync
left storm
do you not want him to max his own atk/def
He raises +4 per use
That's +6 in two uses
left storm
Also first impression isn't really that worth
rapid osprey
if its 2/2 then mb
left storm
if its 2/2 then mb
It's 2 mp
left storm
It's really good yea
I just not always use the tile because impression ain't always worth clicking
rapid osprey
fair
3/3 mp when you can only use it once per battle and co-op is dead as hell is a relic
left storm
To be fair you can beat Sidney at 3k with him if he's exed and you have Dana or any SEUP user
2v3
His nuke is pretty legit now
Wish his DPS wasn't a laughing stock even with PMUNs
rapid osprey
oh yeah his nuke is excellent
left storm
Wouldn't say excellent
grizzled harness
I didn't want to go through all of the move levels (this took long enough lol) but this is my roster. I've used Sycamore/Xerneas, Wally/Gallade, Hop/Zamazenta, Skyla/Swanna, Drake/Salamence, and SS Serena/Zygarde
grizzled harness
I will try that grid though with guzzma. I was thinking maybe I just had bad settings for the fight. I'm probably using an old grid though haha
fading cradle
I didn't want to go through all of the move levels (this took long enough lol) b...
you should adjust their move levels though, some pairs aren’t viable at 1/5
grizzled harness
I will, I just didn't want to take too long to reply. You're right about that
I have most at 3/5+ and can get a toon to 3/5 if I don't have it
left storm
I will try that grid though with guzzma. I was thinking maybe I just had bad set...
Guzma + Dana + any decent unit can easily do the trick
grizzled harness
Guzma + Dana + any decent unit can easily do the trick
Dana?
fading cradle
regice
rapid osprey
Wouldn't say excellent
i mean, for a f2p bug striker, he doesnt exactly have a ton of competition in the field - he doesnt necessarily hold up to other types, but he beats noland and probably bugsy outside of poison sygnergy conditions
but yeah dana regice and someone with defog
fading cradle
id recommend darach as the defogger since he has feather dance as well to debuff sidney
grizzled harness
Ahh Dana for her dmg guard?
I was just thinking of darach
fading cradle
dana also has super effective up next that she can apply to an ally
grizzled harness
Thanks everyone, I'm going to give that a try. I just unlocked Dana recently so hadn't even looked at her kit yet. Can't believe how much has changed in pm. Lots to catch up on 😛
blazing perch
Any tip for drake?
fading cradle
Any tip for drake?
you want to replace rain otherwise drake gets a pretty big boost from it
blazing perch
Oh he has rain I didn’t even try him yet every week he is a problem lol
What about arc cynthia and bertha
fading cradle
What about arc cynthia and bertha
i’m pretty sure ex cyrus is fine enough, do you have his grid expansion?
old orchid
He literally shows them at the end of each clear
fading cradle
they’re in the video
karmic zephyr
So Lusamine Guzma Aaron isn't working for me
I'm not sure why Guzma doesn't do enough damage
and the grid is right
old orchid
Can you send your Guzma grid here, as well as params used
karmic zephyr
The Guzma grid is exact copy paste of this
old orchid
I would get rid of Initial Propulsion for a Pin Missile power tile. A minor boost to his dps
The grid is good otherwise
karmic zephyr
I'll try it
I'll try upgrading theme skills too
Why is bug always the hardest
Should I maybe try using dire hit first? I'm going for Beat em down first turn and then Pin Missile
fading cradle
Should I maybe try using dire hit first? I'm going for Beat em down first turn a...
could try using hop as your support instead and grid him for mpr to take care of guzma’s buffs
- hop should be able to tank most of sidney’s attacks fairly well
karmic zephyr
fading cradle
take the 50 point physical reduction. that’s bypassed by critical hits
fading cradle
are you aiming for 3k or just 2k?
karmic zephyr
2k, I know I can't 3k
fading cradle
And drop what? Nothing?
no need to drop anything really, the 50 point reductions are pretty free if you buff your crit rate
karmic zephyr
That's the thing
karmic zephyr
Should I maybe try using dire hit first? I'm going for Beat em down first turn a...
.
Because only that buffs Guzma's crit
Unless I use another pair instead of Lusamine
fading cradle
could try using hop as your support instead and grid him for mpr to take care of...
try this
karmic zephyr
And burn my Zamazenta? 😭
fading cradle
trout suggested me to use noland when i was fighting sidney, could try replacing lusamine with him
fading cradle
make sure you grid noland too, could try turning off interference immunity if you need noland’s flinches
if you decide to use noland, make sure to ONLY use fury cutter, don’t use any of his other moves
fading cradle
And burn my Zamazenta? 😭
also wdym by this?
fading cradle
What's his Pokémon?
yeah he uses zamazenta
karmic zephyr
Oh so that's what I meant yeah. Because I usually use Zamazenta against Glacia
And if I use him now, then what's left for her
I haven't thought about teams yet
fading cradle
that depends on who you’ll use as a damage dealer against glacia
karmic zephyr
Yeah I'm not there yet so I haven't thought about it
fading cradle
did you at least think of who’s going to be your damage dealer against glacia?
fading cradle
it’s better to probably plan your teams ahead of time so you don’t end up burning your units on a battle
karmic zephyr
I ended up using Hop, I hope I don't regret this
fading cradle
I ended up using Hop, I hope I don't regret this
are you still on sidney?
karmic zephyr
I beat him, with Hop
fading cradle
nice! who are you planning to fight r2 (don’t do phoebe)?
karmic zephyr
My Marnie isn't afraid of anything
fading cradle
nc marnie? she should shred then, as i predict (i dont have her 💩)
fading cradle
what’s your team?
karmic zephyr
I tried SC Steven
You know, with the super effective up
I feel like I just need another dark striker too
Because I was so close
fading cradle
ohhh yeah that one
this is what i get for returning late 2023 and not knowing what most units before 2024 even do
lean lion
Highly recommend not fighting Phoebe or Glacia R2
karmic zephyr
So it's fine
fading cradle
might also be
•need to change params
•rng luck (too heavy on this)
•change who you fight on r2
lean lion
What are your options?
karmic zephyr
3k Phoebe
Damn
With this team
Honestly Sabrina felt a little bit unnecessary
But she served her purpose by existing
I'll leave Drake for round 4
And do Glacia for 3
fading cradle
heyyyyy nice! wasn’t expecting sabrina clear lol but ig it makes sense since she tanks special attacks way better
karmic zephyr
Let me check which fighting strikers I have
fading cradle
drake r3 is also fun
karmic zephyr
Oh? Should I do drake?
fading cradle
drake has permanent rain and then a weather setter just trolls him by changing his rain to another weather to stop him from boosting himself and it just stays on the field
god i love the permanent wtz param
fading cradle
Oh? Should I do drake?
it’s all up to you in the end
personally i loved r3 drake since i used a weather setter and a zone setter against him
karmic zephyr
Yeah but the thing is, I'll have to kinda struggle a little bit because I don't recall having a good dragon striker
fading cradle
Yeah but the thing is, I'll have to kinda struggle a little bit because I don't ...
what’s your dragon roster looking like?
fading cradle
cyrus can work, kinda hurts that he’s not ex but you can always give it a try and see if he can clear
lean lion
Pair Cyrus with Drasna and you'll be good
Drasna doesn't use gauge so it works pretty well
Oh you need to change weather nvm
fading cradle
do you have any supports that can change weather?
karmic zephyr
I'll just pick a random weather setter
fading cradle
you need to get rid of drake’s rain at the least
fading cradle
doesn’t really matter tbh as long as you replace rain
karmic zephyr
Oh, they aren't supports, they are tech
Acerola could work
Oh and I have SS Erika, I forgot about her
gleaming jolt
AS Cynthia can offtype Drake if you are not planing to use her elsewhere
gleaming jolt
Acerola could work
Acerola having flinch can also also come in handy if you are using Cyrus!
karmic zephyr
Yeah I kinda thought ARC Cynthia could be for Steven. because I also don't think my water strikers are that strong
I have mostly the starters
Popplio, Oshawott
So maybe Cynthia could go there , idk
gleaming jolt
If you mean AS Steven then i think you can run a full steel team with him!
Like Anni Lillie 2024 and another DPS
Oh mb for steven
Lol
fading cradle
i swear you’re probably the best off typer ive ever seen though ☠️
lean lion
Oh mb for steven
I see K Grimsley, I like
fading cradle
where the lance though
dim marsh
Question: how much does the spdef down parameter influence the damage?
I never knew the exact number
frosty pilot
dim marsh
My only genpool missing is Colress... who would have been quite good in some DC stages
And Tierno too
thorny wind
Next time I'll try to attempt to solo all
violet timber
so I'm on red and i don't think i can on type him
gleaming jolt
so I'm on red and i don't think i can on type him
Try Anni Lillie+ MC Solgaleo + a flinch and speed buffer like Skyla (may help)!
violet timber
problem is anni lillie can only pop field once and i cant dps enough before red pops ice wish again
gleaming jolt
Oh! Hmm!
violet timber
the absolute fumble of not getting her ex role 
3 field cake coins right now
i mean
i do have SSA Cynthia
gleaming jolt
It's okay!
You are right
Offtype it is
left storm
so I'm on red and i don't think i can on type him
Lillie can do red pretty easily
You don't HAVE to use steel supports
left storm
You can legit bring someone like event victor to get rid of ice zone on entry and save up her buddy for post sync if you have a decent enough supoort
Victor also frees up
- 100 points enemy stat up ↑3
- Lillie sharp entry tile
- gives her damage guard/speed drops for her sync
mellow linden
problem is anni lillie can only pop field once and i cant dps enough before red ...
Do you have a Field Cake?
If so you could do 2nd Sync with Lillie and the Field EX effect will replace Ice Zone
mellow linden
Alternatively you could do the Victor + Spectrier or other Zone setter + Lillie strategy
mellow linden
So no cake required
They’re having trouble with the 2nd casting before enemy Sync
old orchid
My apologizes
With right supports i think she can clear Red pre sync
An enhancer like SS Acerola for example
karmic zephyr
So Drasna, Cyrus and Acerola isn't really working well for me against Drake
violet timber
ok yeah lol SSA Cynthia instantly made it easy
idk why im so hardpressed to monotype the whole stadium
thanks @mellow linden @gleaming jolt
old orchid
So Drasna, Cyrus and Acerola isn't really working well for me against Drake
Ofc, there is no support there
You use either of Cyrus or Drasna
karmic zephyr
oh
I didn't realise I have to pick
So if I go Cyrus, Acerola
then I need a support of what kind
old orchid
Someone speeds up Cyrus' buffing
He needs spatk and crit but it's slow, reliable and costs HP
violet timber
Cyrus boosts speed, spatk, crit with his kit (inside grid) but yeah halves his HP
should either bring a support that ups defense or provides those stats so he can get right into DPSing
or heals
karmic zephyr
Kiawe?
old orchid
His buffing is slow, but he can work
With him you can use Cyrus' TM twice then use Potion to heal him back like dewd suggested
karmic zephyr
hmm it doesn't work but I think it could be because of parameters
Let me show you
old orchid
Seems fine to me, except 50 pts special reduction is literally a free param and you can replace atk up 5 for a strength 2
I find strength 6 a good param to slap on most CS runs of mine
mellow linden
The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters just set Reflect and Light Screen respectively on the opponents’ side, and those field effects are ignored by critical hits.
It’s the 100-point Physical Damage Reduction 8 and 100-point Special Damage Reduction 8 that you need to not run both of (unless Poison stalling)
old orchid
It's always great
rapid osprey
my feeling on perma field is mostly that it means i dont want to take the no wtz condition
ok. if i bring ex kris, arc steven, and one of winona, may, or archie
i dont think any of those are particularly helpful outside of setting rain, so i figure i just bring archie for thunder para?
old orchid
Don't bother with Thunder