#Champion Stadium

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cedar bronze
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NVM

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THE FUTURE IS NOW THANKS TO SCIENCE

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i ended up with aaron r3 so er

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i have phoebe r4

sacred scroll
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I do recommend aaron r1 so he is forced to use up heal order early

fading cradle
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^ i did aaron r3 and uh, using heal order when he was at 25% hp and getting back to like 85% hp was a little crazy ngl

cedar bronze
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i just somehow managed to survive sync and clemont nuked

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r4 phoebe shouldnt be so bad right since shes spdef target

sacred scroll
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Should be fine

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I personally did it in this order if it helps

fading cradle
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being able to on type the entire stadium is something i find impressive

cedar bronze
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ig save the big boys for cheren which leaves me with like

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volkner r4 for phoebe

fading cradle
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i hardcore yoloed everything

cedar bronze
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idk how to 3k phoebe oof

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guess i have to low ball it

swift swan
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You have to apply status condition

cedar bronze
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oh ye colress works like a charm

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colress + champ nate is kinda OP off type wtf

hidden ore
hollow horizon
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I should probably make an attempt at the electric stadium, is there a tldr for each stages's gimmick?

loud stratus
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Does the ally healing down param only affect moves, not passives? So synchro healing amd recuperation still heal the full amount?

hazy tusk
old orchid
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It no longer affects the healing amount from passives

loud stratus
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Nice. I saw sync heal and recup heal a lot with that param a couple of times, so just wanna confirm

hazy tusk
tired sleet
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It’s been several months, one update they just said it was a bug and changed it

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I’m guessing in some translation, it implied that only moves were affected

loud stratus
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It says so in English

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Or maybe they changed the english description after?

hazy tusk
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Nice

swift swan
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outside of that it's fine

hidden ore
swift swan
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don't take the stats down param

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rosa's offensive buffing is unreliable and slow

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unless you give N his impervious cookie, but that leaves your other two units very vulnerable

sacred scroll
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Just so you know, Rosa B move animation is long as crap, and that eats into ET duration

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Just be wary of the timing because the last thing you need is ET to run out in the wrong moment

rare river
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@graceful oriole

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This is what I've got

graceful oriole
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which one of these are left for Lance

graceful oriole
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have you done any legendary adventure?they are in the story section

unkempt tangle
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In the story menu, complete all the chapters with the red exclamation

graceful oriole
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they give the best f2p players

unkempt tangle
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U will get 8 Villain pairs. Like Giovanni Mewtwo, Cyrus Palkia etc

graceful oriole
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+legexchange

frozen depotBOT
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When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups iGoldPowerUp (usable on that pair only)

  • Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
  • DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
    https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
    For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.
graceful oriole
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Very important

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extremely important

unkempt tangle
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Those pairs are good in the beginning but u need certain events to happen before u can get them to 6 stars. Don't stress that though. They work well at L140 too

graceful oriole
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lvl 120 is enough for where you are in game rn

rare river
graceful oriole
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+101

frozen depotBOT
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> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a StrikeS / StrikeP striker or a Tech tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support Support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

graceful oriole
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read this as well

unkempt tangle
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They also give u good pairs in different Pokemon types so after u complete those stories we can talk about Champion Stadium

rare river
graceful oriole
graceful oriole
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that's legendary arena

unkempt tangle
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Legendary adventures is the one with Villain faces

graceful oriole
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in story section there's a tab with a bunch of legendaries on it called legendary adventures

unkempt tangle
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Like him for example

graceful oriole
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villain face is villain arc

unkempt tangle
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Lol it's been so long I forgot thatWEEZing

graceful oriole
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lmao

rare river
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Oh. I haven't done any villain arc yet

hazy tusk
graceful oriole
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not villain arc,(do those as well ofc but) prioritise legendary adventures@rare river

graceful oriole
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when you open the story thing what do you see?

unkempt tangle
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The third tab in this

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Inside it u have this

rare river
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Okay. I'll need to get Cyrus and sycamore from there to best Lance

graceful oriole
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do each one (priority order is sycamore, cyrus,hop,ghetsis, silver ,gio,zinnia)

unkempt tangle
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Complete these to get some pairs that will be 5/5 before any of ur other pairs

rare river
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Okay

graceful oriole
unkempt tangle
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Do it in Doom's order. Each pair has a use case which we can explain after u complete the whole section

rare river
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I won't

graceful oriole
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good, a few new guys forgot recently

unkempt tangle
graceful oriole
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then I visited them

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now they wish they never forgot

unkempt tangle
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They would be scared shirtless if Dr Doom came to them💀

rare river
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And from now on, I should just hold onto my gems?

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No more drawing?

hazy tusk
graceful oriole
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there's a datamine every month where we learn everything about the update

unkempt tangle
graceful oriole
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usually we don't know the exact date but this time we do

rare river
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Ah okay

graceful oriole
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+datamine

frozen depotBOT
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Datamine usually happens at the end of each month between the 25th and 29th (PDT)
Check #datamines for raw dumps and #1012256199128915968 for recap and schedules.
Here is a history of previous datamine dates : https://tinyurl.com/pmexdataminehistory

The July Datamine is believed to release <t:1719464400:f> due to Android Device Changes (said in the in game news)

unkempt tangle
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If I hadn't pulled Galar trio when I started, CSMM would have been painfulWEEZing

graceful oriole
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in case next month gets something extremely busted

rare river
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I got unlucky on Bianca. I think I did 3 pulls on that banner and didn't get

graceful oriole
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Anni is also in September so I suggest saving a month or 2 before

rare river
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Okay. I'll just save and made due with what I have.

graceful oriole
rare river
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I'll work on these legendaries today

unkempt tangle
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Yeah Deca, Datamine happens mostly on 27th or the Monday after if 27th is on a weekend. U will see a lot of datamine gifs in the lounge so u won't miss it even if u triedWEEZing

graceful oriole
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avoid pulling on a banner until you get to pity amount (36.6k)

rare river
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Holy that much? I don't think I've even collected that many gems since starting lol.

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I'd get to like 9k or 12k then do pulls on a banner or two lol

graceful oriole
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you definitely have

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starting gems are like 40k

rare river
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I've definitely wasted gems then lol

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Oh well.

graceful oriole
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you get 36.6k every 1 and a half months @rare river

rare river
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Oh cool

graceful oriole
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you also haven't done many achievements so you will get even more from there

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if you are lucky and can handle saving you could probably guarantee all anni units even if they give 3

rare river
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Let's hope!

unkempt tangle
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U can see the scout points at the right corner

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268/400

rare river
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Right

unkempt tangle
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Spending 36.6k gems on a banner gets u to 400 points

rare river
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Is blue/blastoise better than argenta/skarmory for a tank support?

unkempt tangle
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At 400 points, u get one free selection (u should always choose the featured pair)

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But don't go spending all 36.6k gems on one banner if u already got the featured pair

graceful oriole
graceful oriole
unkempt tangle
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If u get the pairs well with 5 multis, forget the banner. U can always farm for candies to increase move levels. U will learn that slowly.

graceful oriole
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especially when you are new

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you will need pairs more than dupes

unkempt tangle
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In any event, always get the coins first with the voucher. Remaining items u can get as u use stamina on the events in the following week

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Do not use Candy on a pair u got for free though. For now, use candy exclusively on Master Fairs. Then as u learn the game u will know better

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Complete Legendary Adventures then we can talk more

graceful oriole
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you will also get a ton of gems

rare river
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Sounds good

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Thanks for all the pro tips boys

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Appreciated.

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I was focused on all the wrong things.

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I don't understand what I'm missing

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Specific orbs for blue?

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I can do Argenta's grid tho

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@graceful oriole

unkempt tangle
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The yellow orbs u can get from training area

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The blue ones are character specific. They show u which character they can be used on

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U will also have some character specific orbs for urself and Pikachu

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@rare river

rare river
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Weird. I don't know where I would have got specific orbs for Argenta then that I can use for her but none for Blue

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Where can I get Blue orbs ?

fading cradle
rare river
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I reset argentas grid thinking that I'd get orbs for Blue but I still can't spend into his.

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But I can with Argenta

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I had only used a little bit in Argenta

fading cradle
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if you reset argenta’s grid, you’ll get character orbs that can only be used on her grid

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the yellow (orange?) orbs are the ones that can be used for everyone

rare river
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Oh once they're spent they "lock" to that character even if reset ?

fading cradle
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yeah basically

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that’s what ive observed

rare river
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But then how do I get more blue orbs lol

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Just in general.

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Like how am I supposed to advance Blues tiles ?

fading cradle
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i haven’t seen any way to get specific ones other than exchanging (which don’t even offer ss blue orbs), only way you can get more of the yellow orbs is by the training area. there’s also a chance a trainer might gift some to you and they can also appear in the lodge expeditions iirc

rare river
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Oh alright. I think I get it.

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I need assloads more yellow orbs

fading cradle
# rare river I need assloads more yellow orbs

yeah they’re pretty easy to get from the training area. that area doesn’t take up stamina either. very hard gives 900 orbs but i forgot how much the other difficulties give. it’s a good place to start gathering them

rare river
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Yea been doing that daily ay least

hidden ore
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Gosh I hate Siebold
Can’t do the right params again, I feel nothing works

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I take stats down off and whats the alternative?

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Round 2, maybe 3 is better?

mellow linden
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If you're struggling this hard on-typing you may just want to consider off-type or Poison stall instead

sick inlet
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Is this the special CSMM?

sick inlet
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Like do you lose to sync

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Do you not do enough dmt

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Dmg

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Etc

dim depot
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I'm trying the special CS. So I'm trying to ration my good units. Is it good to start with Aaron? And who do I use? I can't do any real damage to center.

graceful oriole
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is your hau strike ex role@dim depot

dim depot
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No but I can make him

graceful oriole
# dim depot

make him strike exr and do Aaron with him round 1. Avoid offensive params and use a support that can give hau +1 crit and+2 spa(and preferably some defence). Also pick increased countdown. Let aaron use heal order before syncing then start attacking him and nuking him with ss hau

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that's how I beat aaron 3.5k so it should work for 3k

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you can also use volkner with ss hau if you are worried about e terrain duration

mellow linden
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SS Hau shouldn’t need his EX Role to beat Aaron

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He’s also far from the only option. If you wanted to build a team around Ash, SS Piers, and probably even Lodge Volkner or regular Hau it would probably work

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You can also easily run a dual damage-dealer team with SS Hau to make the sides easier to deal with

dim depot
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That's what I'm thinking, within budget constraints

mellow linden
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Can just run both Haus and a Sp. Atk + crit Support (ideally not NC Blue since he’s very useful for dealing with the champion fight gimmicks)

dim depot
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Okay so the problem is I can take care of the sides, but again, center takes way too little damage overall

mellow linden
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What team and what parameters?

manic kiln
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If you struggle this much use ash for aaron, sst red for siebold, ncblue can carry anyone for cheren. Those 3 already cover 3 stages, you even have enough to mono. SsPiers and SsHau for another team, then Elesa/N/Marnie

dim depot
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Hmm perhaps

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This is about how the attempts always go. That recovery is so brutal. His sync even on crit does so little damage.

mellow linden
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You really don’t need to budget your power level as hard as you’re doing unless you’re trying to do some sort of challenge run

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And if it’s a challenge run the amount of help we can provide drops a bit

dim depot
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Hmm, so throw in Ash anyway? I mean, this guy does not take damage

mellow linden
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I more mean you can run both Haus instead of presumably running at best MC + Torchic and an eggmon

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Or like, SS Piers + SS Hau or something

dim depot
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I was running the MC cake and either Kris/Jolteon or MC Pikachu

old orchid
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Better run both Hau + Kris and a good tank

dim depot
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Who is a good tank here?

old orchid
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Should be an 6EX support with offensive buffs

manic kiln
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You have many OP units why saving them for just 1-2 fight later, just spread them out, ash can 1 shot aaron even with full hp parameters. Ash is self sufficient so you can use defensive support and not wasting time buffing your dps. I think phoebe and siebold hit much harder than aaron, he’s just a meat shield. You need a nuker and 2/5 sshau can’t really hit hard enough with his sync

sacred scroll
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You need to play the long game

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How's your params? Don't buff Siebold's offenses too much then

old orchid
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N is a hot garbage tbf SerenaSip

sacred scroll
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He's an awful unit

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Esp at 1/5

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For reference I ran NCRosa 3/5, N 5/5+10E, and SSHau 1/5 and it was hell to clear

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You only use b relic song once

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Then she just spams her tm

hazy tusk
sacred scroll
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If you don't win in 3 moves reset

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Also of siebold uses surf reset

old orchid
sacred scroll
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Well

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I cleared it easily

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What I'm saying is that anything less is hell to clear

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All of his good multipliers are 3/5+

old orchid
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Ah SeleneLul

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Mb then

sacred scroll
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1/5 is yikes

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Could go the long route and fish flinch and para with volkner

old orchid
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I have him at 1/5 non EX. Sonia and Volkner hard carried him against Siebad

sacred scroll
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Wtf not using ET

old orchid
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Gauge is an issue even with Sonia's help

sacred scroll
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Oh wait Volk

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LMAO

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Really?

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Why gauge issue

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Just let the dog get hit

old orchid
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Blame Volk for flinch

sacred scroll
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Wtf

old orchid
sacred scroll
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Smh volkner

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You had one job

loud stratus
old orchid
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Also 2 Surf kills N

sacred scroll
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1 surf kills mine

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I went full glass cannon

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NCRosa spammed her tm

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SSHau spammed Fairy Wish

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Basically N needs to hog all frames

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Sync with N and then BS and pray you kill

old orchid
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Smh no def debuff

sacred scroll
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Stack PMUN like pancakes

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Doesn't crit

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Reset

old orchid
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I read BS bullshit wtf

sacred scroll
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LMAO

old orchid
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Also lovely Miriam pfp

sacred scroll
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Thank you!

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I look forward to her entry in PMEX

old orchid
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Me2

dim depot
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Oh, I can probably go for 14k points, so that should make things a bit easier

loud stratus
sacred scroll
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So true

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N just has no innate multipliers sadly it's really bad

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At least he does PB well and gets a free move every so often hurr

loud stratus
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My guy needs side grid expansion

sacred scroll
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His additional grid nodes are quite good but for some reason he got nothing at 2/5 like SSKorrina as a recent example

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Kinda odd

loud stratus
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He needs a node that replaces outrage with zekrom kick

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Fr, Lance got side nodes, N should get them too

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Why tf is focus rush a 4/5 node? Bro i need you to crit the sync

sacred scroll
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He has follow through 9 for that

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It's actually quite solid

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He's fairly self suff

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(At 5/5)

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Anything less is sayonara

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That being said I'm not trying to shame 1/5 N enjoyers

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But the fact of the matter is that in this content that demands a higher level of play, what lower sync level Ns lack have to be made up with support choice, playstyle, and choosing the right parameters to tackle the fight

dim depot
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But he's good on at least one of these battles, right?

sacred scroll
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Yes

loud stratus
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He laughs at the likes of clear advantage and acute sense

sacred scroll
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He can completely ignore any Healthy Advantage

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Which if you're lacking a competent and consistent paralyzer, is pretty great

dim depot
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Had to go with Ash for Aaron. No other way to do enough damage on him.

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N seems pretty good at Siebold. It's still tough because yeah, Surf really is a run-ender.

old orchid
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N is pretty much glued to Sonia, and Sonia happens to be the unit designed for Siebold

sacred scroll
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Wait really?

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I guess Sonia does give everything N wants

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And she can take a razor shell

old orchid
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she can take multiple depending on your params

sacred scroll
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Pre-sync or sink

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But depending on your N, that may not be a viable strategy

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All of his multipliers are locked behind grid

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Adjust accordingly

old orchid
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eh it's still possible

loud stratus
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Pair N with Hilbert to complete the Impervious Duo

old orchid
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he definitely needs terrain

undone ether
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i used N (2/5) and Sonia against another battle. Acerola.

Siebold gets SST Red + Holiday Whitney

old orchid
sacred scroll
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Bring an omega buffer like SCSteven or ET

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Otherwise 2/5 N and below are really quite lacking out of the gate

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Just dual DPS

old orchid
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does Volkner count as dual dps

sacred scroll
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Yes actually

old orchid
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tbf i used him to nuke

sacred scroll
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He has a fkton of dps multipliers for some ungodly reason

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Ps

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Harry

old orchid
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Potter

sacred scroll
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LMAO

undone ether
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;o

loud stratus
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Yer a trainer Harry

sacred scroll
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My Elesa and Volkner obliterated Acerola

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But idk if it's because they're strong or if she's weak

old orchid
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how about both

sacred scroll
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True!

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Acerola free win button

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MCChu trust

old orchid
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1.5x spdef says hello

sacred scroll
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Oh right

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This Special Stadium is the source of suffering

old orchid
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it is, yeah

dim depot
sacred scroll
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Well

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There's 2 approaches here: i) stack on as much front loaded damage as possible ii) play the long game and support sync

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The thing about the 1st approach is that N doesn't have any innate multipliers, so you either need his grid or members that can omega buff his damage

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Do give ET, Rebuffers, SEUN, or PMUN a try

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Wtf non EX Volkner

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I'm afraid your penalty is severe, Gakon

old orchid
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i EX'd the wrong Volkner

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well Elesa nukes harder than him

sacred scroll
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Volkner has a nuke?

old orchid
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in our dream

sacred scroll
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The only nuke relevant multiplier in his grid is superduper effective

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Kek

dim depot
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Not Lodge Volkner, right? What is that one even for?

old orchid
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if you are referring to OG Volkner in my clear he is there to setup terrain

dim depot
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2 down, 3 more to go

hidden ore
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I hate Siebold hate hate Siebold

swift swan
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what params are you running

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try reducing the strength, maximize all the attack and power on hit

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rosa tanks well enough

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reduce siebold's bulk as much as possible

hidden ore
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I tried even the recommended with Adaman with him being 1/5 ex and its not working

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I hate Siebold’s bulk too much

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Volkner’s grid

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What skill do I give him

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He has SE1

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N has CS2

swift swan
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What, volkner? CS2 is better

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let's try nuking with Volkner then, and N will handle DPS

hidden ore
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I need to change Volkner’s grid

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Para synergy?

swift swan
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use up Volkner's TM since Rosa's buffs are inconsistent

hidden ore
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Sync with Volkner first?

swift swan
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rosa first, then volkner

hidden ore
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I struggle with setting the right parameters for this one

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Mainly the red ones

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HP or standard dmg red

swift swan
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full attack, as little strength as possible

swift swan
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dont' pick HP at all if you're struggling with siebold's bulk as it is

hidden ore
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So no stats down/up yellow param too?

swift swan
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do not take those stats down or up

hidden ore
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Is this bad?

swift swan
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that's good

hidden ore
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Seems to work, just avoiding the rng part and its all fine

sick inlet
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Full strength

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As little as possible attack

loud stratus
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There are more points in strength than attack

left storm
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Yep

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For hard stages, STR is much better

Max STR +1 ATK gives 1250 PTS, but base atk is less than tripled

With same points but max atk, you'd need to make stage's hp 2.5 times the one with max STR to have same atk/points ratio

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Max atk 3k vs max STR 3k

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You could trade away some hp for str on max atk but would make the stage melt even more

loud stratus
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I didn't know poma updates the stats with the params RosaThink

Very helpful

left storm
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Yup

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It helps planning out stuff

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Here's no hp, all ATK, STR fill in

swift swan
left storm
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4k less hp for more than 50% more damage

left storm
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Max STR is 43k

swift swan
left storm
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And even then, 50k is easily achievable

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Max atk no hp is 39k

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Which is super low

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But they have 5800 ATK Vs 3400

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So your support isn't surviving

swift swan
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What kind of max attack are you taking LanaFear

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Here's what i got with max attack, both PoH, i think str 9

swift swan
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I don't stack HP with attack

old orchid
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iirc the orders of taking params may result in different outcomes

swift swan
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Does it?

old orchid
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I think we had a pinned doc about it but it is no longer pinned here

left storm
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Vs 3400 with +1 atk max STR

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And only 4k hp more

sick inlet
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I need confirmations

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Urgently

sacred scroll
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what

paper summit
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iirc the differences are not notable, but they exist

silver dirge
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Huh

sacred scroll
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Yeah idk what y'all are on about

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You're telling me the order I select my params affects the performance?

sick inlet
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I need answers or problems will happen

sharp willow
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the order parameters are taken can slightly affect the boss's stats i believe

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but it is slight

sick inlet
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In what way does it affect it

paper summit
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#916852044692856834 message

dim depot
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Maybe I shouldn't have gone physical for Acerola. Now I'm on Phoebe and I don't have good physical elec types left

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Or is she not physical-only?

old orchid
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she is not physical only

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just has fat HP + the need to paralyze

dim depot
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Oh, fat HP. Got it.

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Hmm, I thought SS Piers would be better for this. He basically does no damage

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Oh, wrong param lol. I'm sure this will work now.

swift swan
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my worldview has been changed

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well it's just very negligible difference

paper summit
#

yeah, if it was actually significant it would be widespread knowledge and a big warning in the presets SeleneLul

civic crater
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Wait so is max strength more optimal than max attack a good portion of the time? I always do max attack and outside of situations like Siebold on the electric stadium it seems to go fairly smoothly? How do yall usually do your parameters?

silver dirge
#

If you can handle max attack then go for it, it means you don't need to pick up as much bulk

graceful oriole
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I go max attack, a good amount of strength, max damage on everything, max cd about some hp usually.Along with the usual -guage, 80%, dr from one side, etc.

noble plaza
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Should I avoid or do anyone on certain rounds for the Pasio league?

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Who should I round 1?

old orchid
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Avoid Siebold and Aaron on R4, and be careful with everyone on R1

noble plaza
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I have NC Blue and SST Red but I don't want to use them willy-nilly

old orchid
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NC Blue is a hard counter to Cheren

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Save Red for the hardest stage like Siebold

noble plaza
#

I could probably use NC Red and Irida to off type

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This is my electric roster, who would you recommend I R1?

swift swan
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sst red's an easy one

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can even take on siebold r1

main crow
#

how much does CSMM gives BP coins again?

old orchid
#

55 BP if you managed to clear 15k

main crow
#

nice i'll be able to 3/5 Kabu by monday then LucianScheme

patent vigil
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Can someone help me with a team comp/multipliers for cheren

old orchid
#

can you show us your eligible roster?

patent vigil
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Ow nvm I thought he always leads with bleak wind storm. It nuked me hard WEEZing

noble plaza
swift swan
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I like to use lodge elesa to help setup cakewalk

noble plaza
#

thank you!

noble plaza
noble plaza
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I'm on R4 against Acerola. Do I have enough good pairs to beat Cheren? Would I need to off type?

tired sleet
#

NCBlue, Hau, and some third should do well

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Saving NCBlue was definitely a good choice, he counters Cheren’s dmg reduction gimmick

noble plaza
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Yeah I was told!

sacred scroll
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Acerola is so free

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Then again I guess when you're juxtaposed against 3 other juggernauts that's not saying much

keen silo
#

why
give me rng please
of all my mina syncs only one is critting at max crit rate for the past 30 mins
and then i get flinched by sides and die
this team can easily 3k but why

old orchid
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you can change the support for a defensive one

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like Sonia with def buffs and Potion

keen silo
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im using sonia on electric weak and idk who else can support mina

old orchid
#

what team are going to use on Electric weak?

keen silo
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sonia elesa colress

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stand

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i just need to presync and ko right right after

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and i get the presync

old orchid
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keep trying again then

keen silo
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but its not crit

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and every single presync but 1 has not critted

old orchid
keen silo
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i had to change team completely

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and tbh im happy how Katherine can nuke so well for f2p

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I wanted to try some pairs that I don't often use to keep the game interesting for me... but when i keep losing to stuff I can't control its hard to maintain composure

keen jasper
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And this is why you always save the best for last

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And my game fucking exited when I left the app, but doesn't matter either way

sharp plaza
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which of lorelei and bruno is easier to 3k off-type?

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okay never mind i see lorelei has sync cure so i guess i have to off-type her

old orchid
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Lorelei is annoying in general, with +2 evasion pre sync

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so try to take her down asap

sharp plaza
old orchid
tulip python
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Wut, Siebold round 2 with N, Sonia and Luxray and I hit like a floppy noodle trying to chop down a sky scraper made out of titanium

old orchid
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Must be parameter issue

tulip python
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I used one from one of the winning teams I believe

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But will try again later

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Thankfully Aron went down with off type

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Now it’s just Acerola and the rest

cold kestrel
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Should I just off type agatha?

keen jasper
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Isn't Agatha ghost-weak?

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Oh wait, you're probably referring to next reset

cold kestrel
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Yeah I am

keen jasper
cold kestrel
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Teams I cooked up at first glance, how decent are they

sacred scroll
#

What form are you gonna use SSSteven as?

cold kestrel
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Maybe speed so I can spam neo psycho cut more?

sacred scroll
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If your SSLana is 3/5 you can go Normal forme for Psy Terrain and blast them asap

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If you plan to support EX then Speed forme might be the call

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It depends on your strategy

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For your Team 1: Might be beneficial to swap Aaron to a defense debuffer/Grassy Terrain setter to really boost Adaman. He looks useless unless you plan to use him to top off Adaman's ATK (or just grid Fanfare 2 on Skyla) or use him for flinching (or just griid Staggering 2 on Skyla)

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※ I don't remember CS bosses off the top of my head so maybe you are using him to counter something specific?

cold kestrel
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I can bring colress to lower defense. Just kinda had aaron on my team to get more of his master passive or whatever it’s called

sacred scroll
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At that point just drop Skyla then

cold kestrel
sacred scroll
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Well Aaron + Adaman alone might have gauge issues but Colress should take up none if you just use Screech

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Oh wait is your Colress 3/5?

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Infliction Freebie is a grid not an innate passive kek

cold kestrel
sacred scroll
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Well Aaron is just gonna spam Defend order os whatever

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I think you'll be fine

cold kestrel
sacred scroll
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If you plan to support sync with Aaron first tho, you should consider bringing a sun unit (unless you have 3/5 Adaman Drought Alert 5)

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Else he'll flop like a fish out of water until he can sync again

cold kestrel
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My aaron isn’t ex’ed yet so I don’t plan on doing that

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He will probably be my next one

sacred scroll
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Okay

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All the other teams look fine, maybe not the champion one bc idk why both Lillie and Sonia are there unless you plan to Lillie exclusively for her sure crit next

cold kestrel
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Lillie is just kinda there, had no clue who else to put so I just threw her on

sacred scroll
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Her TM is useful to make sure Sidney's sync crits

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Otherwise, could consider bringing a defense debuffer or a dark zone setter if you have one altho they are difficult to come by

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Idk if there's an eggmon with Dark Zone ReiThink

fading cradle
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is there any pair that has something similar to screech but it lowers special defense VolknerDed im planning to use sidney as my main attacker for dark weak agatha

cold kestrel
cold kestrel
dark osprey
dark osprey
old orchid
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Atk/crit buffer

craggy glade
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How do I offtype Cheren CS with anni Lillie

old orchid
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Bring a strong spdef tank

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And a status change unit to make life easier

craggy glade
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Sounds like building the team around anni Lillie this time is impossible

old orchid
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You don't have any offtype nuker with a status change?

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Lillie's Moongeist Beam ignores Cheren's DR already

craggy glade
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Oh uh

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Not Cheren specifically

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Just literally anyone in the CS

old orchid
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Ah

craggy glade
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Though I already killed Acerola and Phoebe

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I can hit through Siebad's healthy advantage but the sync itself doesn't ignore it

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I hate it

old orchid
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Got any Ghost Zoner for Aaron?

craggy glade
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SSR Cynthia

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I can do a pretty good amount of damage but never enough to kill him before he heals back to full

old orchid
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Well you can bring a defensive tank to make both her and Anni Lillie brute forcing him

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You have to play a long game sadly

craggy glade
old orchid
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If you have NC Rosa, Penny or NC Blue for example, they can carry the duo on Cheren

craggy glade
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I only have Penny

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I'm always wary about saving anni Lillie for the champion because the game doens't let me see what passives they have until I beat the e4

old orchid
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Pomatools exists you know

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The pins have the direct link to the CS info menu

craggy glade
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Oh I see it

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Actually

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For Chere's no negative status change thingy

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Is it just rebuffs?

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My original plan was to bring SST Red for Cheren and just brute force it but I'm never sure if paralysis removes that passive

old orchid
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Rebuff is the best option, then there are confusion, trap, restrain...

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Paralysis doesn't, but SST Red clears Cheren easily

craggy glade
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I see I see

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Hmm

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Maybe I'll just bring SST Red with anni Lillie

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And kill Siebold

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And use NC Red for Cheren

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Yep SST Red was an instant clear

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They really need to add a parameter that decreases on type damage instead

swift swan
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updated

old orchid
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Perma field again???

trail smelt
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It’s like they’re asking us to mercy kill them lpl

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Ready for next week

frosty pilot
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rare opportunity to use ny wallace

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second week I’ve gotten full 15k feels good

main crow
#

Serotonin achieved

craggy glade
#

Jfc I did it

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I hated every minute of this cs

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Please don't rerun this for the forseeable future

sacred scroll
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Yeah no this Electric CS is awful

graceful oriole
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electric cs was fun

keen silo
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siebold was awful

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rerun everything nuke siebold

sacred scroll
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Aaron is pretty bad if you’re unprepared

light oak
undone ether
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haha, same team for me as well

light oak
undone ether
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i do post sync, max HP and levels though xd

light oak
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i shouldve done hp paras lol.

vast dome
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A week too late, but whp should I allocate

old orchid
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Aaron: use a strong special dmg dealer
Siebold: Sonia is a great pick against him
Cheren: bring a bulky tank and a status change to counter his DR

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Phoebe has fat HP and Acerola is the easiest of the bunch, but she has innate 1.5x spdef so be aware

vast dome
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EX Hau vs 2/5 SS Piers

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who better

old orchid
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Hau has better nuke while Piers has better dps

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plus terrain to carry another Electric

sick inlet
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Hau wants crit and some lovin

vast dome
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But I save my loving for N

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woth Volkner and Hilbert

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or Colress

sick inlet
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Any crit giver

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Colress gives crit

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If you para then use his steel move that I can't remember

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Mirror shot

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1 crit per shot tho

old orchid
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Hilbert, N and Volkner is a good team

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N really wants help to boost his dmg

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is your N 2/5 or 3/5? he is better with Sonia on Siebold

undone ether
full mesa
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In this birb team, how gets to sync when?

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SSMorty -> SSRed -> NCLeaf?

old orchid
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i would sync with Leaf second because the center will be dead by then

vast dome
#

that all I got

vast dome
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Yep, all I got

rare river
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Shessh. I just don't have enough decent pokemon for stadium

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I beat Lance finally. Did the champs differently this time. But now I can't beat Lorelei bc I have shit for grass pokemon

mellow linden
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Grass has quite a few good picks that are accessible. If it's Hard Mode or low point Master Mode then even solo damage-dealer Gardenia should be able to just shred with a decent team

rare river
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I do have her. But stuck at 4s lvl 100. She gets cooked.

mellow linden
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You also aren't required to on-type, a strong off-type damage-dealer will work just as well

rare river
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I have no more resources to level with

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I'm super new. Haven't got a lot to work with yet

mellow linden
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That's part of why you have a whole week to do it

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If you can't put together a team that works with the pairs you have leveled you can just come back a different day after you've done so

rare river
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Should I be worried about sync grid for all the pairs I try to use?

mellow linden
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Outside of a few specific tiles (such as Hop's "Hop to It!: MP Refresh" tile) grid can be completely ignored for Hard Mode

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And in general you shouldn't worry about grid for pairs 2/5 or lower

grand trout
#

Why does some pairs have dps stronger than their nukee

keen silo
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but I'd be cautious of how you use them too, in the beginning there isn't a lot of sync orbs to work with

sharp plaza
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is lodge sycamore strong enough to 3k lorelei? i don’t have any other good grass strikers.

old orchid
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Yes with good enough support. You don't have Brendan or SS Erika?

full mesa
#

Lodge Sycamore + Sycamore is a good combo

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  • crit buffer
old orchid
#

SS Lyra

keen jasper
dark osprey
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If you've got lodge gladion, he's great for poisoning as well

tulip python
#

I should really finish NC Cheren stadium today SophoKEK

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Need to figure out maximum cheese

sacred scroll
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Lt. SurgeEX solo

sick inlet
sharp plaza
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but i have a 5/5 ss misty... can't seem to pull anyone else

old orchid
#

for maximum output he wants someone to help him buffing his necessary stats: +6 spatk +6 speed +6 spdef +3 crit (he can ramp his spdef by taking Acumen) at minimum

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if you can fit a Grassy Terrain setter, that's set

sharp plaza
old orchid
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Sabrina is a good one as she covers his buffs pretty well

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you can bring a spdef debuff to enhance his dmg

dusk swan
#

Does anyone have a list that defeated the pasio special stadium? I’m having some issues

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At 2500 points

old orchid
#

what team are you trying to clear?

dusk swan
#

Basically all of them… I’ve been trying to off type (I have most pairs in the game) but I’ve been having issues

old orchid
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let's start with sending your Electric roster here first

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please show their move level

dusk swan
old orchid
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Sonia, N, Volkner go to Siebold
Ash goes to Aaron
Elesa goes to Acerola
SST Red goes to Phoebe
NC Blue + Hau go to Cheren

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fill the missing slots with pairs that can contribute

dusk swan
#

Should all pairs be electric? Or it doesn’t matter

shy vessel
#

any tips for 3k points options for Pasio Special?

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I don't usually have problems with 3k weekly MMs but my ZekroN fails so hard somehow

old orchid
old orchid
shy vessel
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been trying lots of combinations, Soniamper, Volkray, Surgechu, Hilbrott,

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my usual 3k MM options doesnt seem to help N here

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need more option combo Dx

old orchid
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i assume you are having trouble against Siebold?

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Sonia and Volkner should work well enough

shy vessel
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all 3 aside of Acerola

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somehow my ZekroN cant nuke them

old orchid
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check the pins for 2500 post sync set, then add some parameters to make it 3k

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Zekrom needs a lot of babysitting

shy vessel
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even nuking Dusclops twice doesnt kill it

shy vessel
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thank you very much, managed to finish 15k with some adjustments to my 3k options

sacred scroll
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Congrats!

old orchid
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glad i could help

latent eagle
#

Is there any f2p videos for electric special CS?

blazing peak
#

i can't believe that was a standard damage reduction round

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i completely forgot i put this

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i didn't knew Eusine was this strong holy

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although it was Agatha and with permanent field, still impressed

left storm
#

You synced 4 times, by that time trap alone should've done most of the work too tbh

hidden ore
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Struggling bc she has Healthy Advantage

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What support for Marnie there?

formal vigil
#

Could just use ssa Cynthia with any one that applies status like anyone with toxic or thunder wave

sharp willow
#

with Aura Cynthia on the team i'd recommend gridding her for Numbing Blow and putting a second damage dealer on there to deal with Phoebe'e high bulk

latent eagle
#

Boy do I love time blindness! I can’t figure out how to beat the electric CS….

hidden ore
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Oh I did it
Phoebe was a bit Siebold like
Acerola is physical only?

sharp willow
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Acerola is physical preferred since she has a 50% higher special defense stat than average

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wise entry x1.5, effectively

hidden ore
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Hmm i have her on round 4

latent eagle
#

I swear I’ll update my sync list soon

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But here are all my units and I need help with the electric CS

hidden ore
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Save Nc Blue for Cheren and maybe Ash

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For Siebold don’t take him on r4
That is deadly

sharp willow
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it'd be better for us if you could fill this out and share your roster through it in the future

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+tracker

frozen depotBOT
latent eagle
#

I’m aware screenshots aren’t the best but it’s what I got atm

sharp willow
#

but from what i can see:
SST Red will be more than good enough to take on a stage for you, preferably Siebold
NC Blue with something like Hau should be great for Cheren
You could use Ash + Iono for Phoebe quite easily
Acerola is the most simple of the 5 stages, Nemona should do fine

latent eagle
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Is there an order i should go or just whatever(besides siebold R4)

mellow linden
#

I would actually consider avoiding Siebold on round 4 since SST Red doesn’t need the boost and Siebold can hit fairly hard with physical moves

sharp willow
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outside of avoiding r4 siebold, not a big deal

latent eagle
#

Nettaart said avoid siebold on R4 is what I meant lol, my wording was wrong

sharp willow
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i'd recommend Acerola round 4 if anything, if you choose to use Nemona

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she has no physical moves to speak of

hidden ore
#

All about the params

mellow linden
#

Hop is doing basically nothing on that team, you’d be better off tanking with Ingo and running an offensive enhancer and/or a secondary Rock damage-dealer

hidden ore
#

Diantha/olivia?

sharp willow
#

SS Diantha would work far better

mellow linden
#

Also turn off “Can’t Change WTZ”

hidden ore
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Bc for Diantha I have one param to go

mellow linden
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Because that parameter nerfs NC Silver into the ground

hidden ore
#

So Ingo + Diantha + Silver?

mellow linden
#

Should work beautifully for off-typing, just get rid of the parameter I mentioned

hidden ore
#

Replaced with ally hp down

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Need one param to go with this

mellow linden
#

Could try replacing Half MP with Strength ^2

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And see how that goes

sharp willow
#

you could probably afford to replace half health with strength up and take something like tech damage x3, you'd need to reset for a lack of AOEs but she only has one she can use, and it'll improve Ingo's survivability a bit

hidden ore
#

Done, thanks for helping!

latent eagle
#

I have no idea what to do for R4 acerola LarryDead LarryDead LarryDead

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Nemona ain’t doing much damage

latent eagle
#

Yippee I did it! I hate my time blindness lmao

wicked pebble
#

Illness has been thrashing me for a while so haven't had a chance to do special CS, any good leads besides Redchu anA Ash?

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I can also offtype with stuff like NC Silver, Rei, ect.

wicked pebble
#

These look good?

undone ether
#

Impressive spread o.o

wicked pebble
#

Any good order?

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I can show offtype options too

wicked pebble
undone ether
#

Uh iirc i used zekrom + sonia against phoebe

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On R4

wicked pebble
#

Switch them then?

#

I'm trying to figure out what works.

old orchid
#

What teams go to which round?

wicked pebble
#

Yeah.

old orchid
#

Sonia is the best counter to Siebold, and replace SS Elesa with Volkner for terrain

wicked pebble
#

Also, Hau isn't cutting it, any other ideas?

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Should I try something like Iridia/NC Red?

old orchid
#

Why not

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The Elesa team is questionable

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Just make changes like i suggested and it should be good

wicked pebble
#

Is chase good where he is?

#

Trying Aaron first.

old orchid
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Yes

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But that team doesnt have much sustainability, so don't try to pick many offensive params

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On R1 you should stack buffs so you can begin attacking after Aaron uses Heal Order

wicked pebble
#

I just powered through on that one with the accelerated sync move thing.

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With Iridia and NC Red.

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Which next?

old orchid
#

Just avoid Siebold on R4

wicked pebble
#

Slam him with Redchu?

old orchid
#

If you want to, absolutely

wicked pebble
#

Where else would be useful?

#

And what changes for the Elesa team?

old orchid
#

Preferably replace Iono with a physical oriented support

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If the support can help buffing speed it would be great

#

Since Volkner is moving to N team you should use another terrain setter, like egg Jolteon

wicked pebble
#

Hop? Hilbert?

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Maybe Tapu Ace?

sacred scroll
#

SSAcerola is ideal

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That way Elesa can focus on DPSing

tulip python
#

Uhh how come Reds Dynamax attack isn’t setting terrain on siebold

wicked pebble
#

How vital is Terrain over paralysis?

sacred scroll
sacred scroll
tulip python
wicked pebble
#

I think Phoebe has ir?

sacred scroll
#

I assume this is SSTRed

sacred scroll
#

Doesn't have to be paralysis but if you're running an electric team then chances are they'll get paralyzed

wicked pebble
sacred scroll
#

Aaron doesn't have Healthy Advantage

wicked pebble
#

I'm pretty sure he did...

tulip python
sacred scroll
#

He does not CalemRelieved

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Perhaps you're mistaking it for a different passive

#

Could it be you're using a physical damage dealer into him?

old orchid
#

unless you grid him with Max Conductivity

wicked pebble
#

I think I did that at one point but switched rules to make it work.

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Alright, powered through. Thanks for the help and advice.

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Seriously, skin infections suck.

sacred scroll
tulip python
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Gahhh I just need to clear phoboe round 4

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To get to the last one lol

old orchid
#

what team are you trying to do?

#

can always resort to offtype when needed

tulip python
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Team is N, SS Hau, and SS Acerola

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Physical boost

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Zekrom*

old orchid
#

what move level is your N

tulip python
old orchid
#

1/5 PrycePain

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alright, try turning off special attack DR to enable Hau's DPS and nuke

tulip python
#

I got pretty close with the frog

old orchid
#

a special Electric would work better in N's place

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thus free up SS Acerola's slot

#

and you can pick physical DR 8

tulip python
#

Yep

#

That worked

#

Damn Hau crushed it with N lol

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Now I just need a pair for the last fight lol

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I have Zapdos cakes still

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So I just need to see who else can do well lol

old orchid
#

Blue can carry the weakest Electric types

tulip python
#

Yep

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Somehow

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Iono

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Does like 50% of Cherens health

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Clutch clear 20 mins before reset lol

toxic cobalt
#

Nice work

old orchid
#

Iono's stacking SMUN is crazy

tulip python
#

Based on how often NC Rosa is featured

#

I feel like I made an error going for Haxorous

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But then again, Haxorous has come in handy for dragon weak stadium

toxic cobalt
#

How do you use normal N? I find him very underwhelming.

tulip python
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I don’t lol

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Cause SST Pika with Hau and Zapdos

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Slaughter all electric weak

#

I mean N used to be good

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Piercing Gaze is still busted

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But he’s soo slow

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And power creep ruined him

clever bronze
#

Only got 12k points before the champion before reset. Did the pasio csmm at 1 am and I started the acerola fight at 1:58 am

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What rewards did I miss not battling cheren?

toxic cobalt
#

300 gems

clever bronze
#

I also missed doing missions

toxic cobalt
#

I don't think the stadium had missions?

clever bronze
#

I mean the reset missions

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Just salt which i posted in #salt-channel

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I reseted too much on phoebe

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Basic elesa volkner hilbert couldn’t do it

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I had to use nc bede instead of hilbert and elesa and nc bede died but volkner still won

sacred scroll
#

Hilbert is too frail

toxic cobalt
#

True

left storm
#

Exing him helps a lot

gleaming jolt
#

Any good support for this team?

#

Also cross BP Morty, I forgot!

old orchid
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you should use Shauna, Sycamore and a defense debuffer

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Kiawe can work as both debuffer and crit buffer so you don't have to wait for the second sync to max crit on Sycamore

gleaming jolt
#

Against Blue?
Not Lorelei

old orchid
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ah mb

#

ig Dana works

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or Redlax

gleaming jolt
#

Okay!

#

Since I am out of resources to level up Dana, I will use Redlax!

gleaming jolt
#

These teams good to clear 3k MM?

#

I am doubtful about E3!

old orchid
#

what move level are your Sidney?

gleaming jolt
#

4/5

old orchid
#

then it should be good to go

sacred scroll
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Good luck

gleaming jolt
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Leon Charizard won't do much damage!

Ended up offtyping vs Blue!

sacred scroll
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You cooked

frigid iron
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@wide meteor What pairs have you already used and what else do you have? Using a 1/5 Brendan isnt of much use.

versed meteor
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Does lance have something that prevents paralysis?

zealous karma
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He only has OaR 5 so you likely have the status condition param or are missing

versed meteor
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No status condition was off i could even para the golem

zealous karma
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then it is probably just bad luck

trail smelt
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Who are you using to inflict Paralysis?

undone ether
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Steel weak, aand can inflict paralysis?
Poppy or Variety Thorton for Steel-type.

swift swan
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colress is a good one

thin knot
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Trying to figure out a good flying team how’s sc shanaha, nc cheren, and Leon?

swift swan
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mmm the gauges might struggle

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you don't need leon

thin knot
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Ok who should the 3rd be?

swift swan
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it will depend on the battle, but in general i'll just have a speed buffer

formal vigil
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Could bring lucian for spdef drops

thin knot
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That’s part of why Leon was there (buffs speed with max move)
Lucian’s always a good option hm

old orchid
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you can always change the support slot to allow the use of Leon

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like a speed and offensive buffer, such as Sabrina

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because Leon takes rng to buff himself

thin knot
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Ah you’re right, and shauna can buff through the debuff gimmick but that’s rng too so might as well go for someone else

noble plaza
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Anyone I should do or avoid on certain rounds?

zealous karma
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the rounds are pretty passive so not reall

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y

mellow linden
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Pretty much that, yeah

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Only real consideration for round parameters this week is considering how the parameters interact with the teams you chose

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That way you can pick whatever round benefits the team you have the most

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For example, if one of your teams has Akari you may want to consider running that team on the perma field effects round

trail smelt
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Done time for next week’s team- oh

swift swan
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Updated

undone ether
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200 weeks of CSMM. o/

frosty pilot
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damn this week is 200??

sacred scroll
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Happy 200th week of CSMM

undone ether
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yep

trail smelt
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Happy nuking everything haha

lunar meadow
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That puts into perspective how much I have played this game

sacred scroll
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3 or 4 of your birthdays have passed until this moment

frosty pilot
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full 15k feels great

fading cradle
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i completed my medal too, but it may be centuries before i can 15k csmm 🥴

offtyped lorelei bc my mom decided to call me while i was fighting her instead of all the times i tried to call her before that and it made me lose focus and lose the battle, and i got so pissed off i changed my entire team ☠️

lunar meadow
frosty pilot
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I would if I could

lunar meadow
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Swanna is a solid defensive support, and swellow is a solid offensive support

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And Unfezant is a really good damage dealer, thankfully.

frosty pilot
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highly doubt that will go to 3k but thanks still

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bruno sync was doing 1k to everyone before I got dawn in

lunar meadow
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Worked for me, but used a support EX sync first

lunar meadow
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Did it pre-sync against first fight (higher flinch chance) and second fight (higher physical damage)

main crow
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Oh happy week 200 time to go all out a bit more

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Especially after what Lorelei put me through for the CS event lol

manic kiln
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it's kanto, can sync with your strike and still easily 3k
but yeah I used that mono flying team for the f2p clear too

civic crater
frosty pilot
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if you have the support at ex which I don’t

rich needle
lean lion
zealous karma
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+tracker

frozen depotBOT
zealous karma
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Sim fill out your roster in there ^ it will make it easier to see what we are working with

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as for a reasonable point threshold I believe the good rewards cap out at 4000 and anything past that is a flex really

old orchid
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yeah important rewards stop at 4200 pts

nimble willow
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That sounds really easy to do

old orchid
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and 850 pts per stage is not really different from hard mode, it's even easier because you don't have to worry about type medal

zealous karma
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Did you 3/5 both cheren and bianca sim?

nimble willow
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3/5 cheren, 5/5 Bianca

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Just got 5/5 lugia

zealous karma
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Oh

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You can stop at 3/5 btw lel

nimble willow
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Lugia is my favorite pokemon lol

zealous karma
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the extra energy ethan specifically doesn't beenfit from but yeah this will be free for you lel

nimble willow
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I actually have like all of his cards displayed, several pieces of merch

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Just a personality thing

zealous karma
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I see, I like ethan and lugia a lor so I get that lel, I totally get maxxing favsd

nimble willow
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5/5 Bianca was before i knew 3/5 was good enough

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And cheren came after

old orchid
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@nimble willow this can help you getting warm up to CSMM

nimble willow
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G up!

old orchid
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this too!

zealous karma
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I have a strong suspicious you can handle 3k points (considering your roster) but we can aim for maybe 10K

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and if that is too easy and or difficult then 7.5k

toxic cobalt
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Could always start with the basic 1.5k params and if it doesn't work take them off

nimble willow
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I got 2500

zealous karma
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did you use cheren and ehtan together?

nimble willow
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Yeah

zealous karma
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That is a bit overkill unless neither are gridded

toxic cobalt
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Or start with the 2.5k params LanceShrug

nimble willow
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They’re gridded

toxic cobalt
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Ah well, what you gonna do run Cheren on a non-flying stage

nimble willow
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Lolol

zealous karma
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Ethan can handle Bruno on his own with a unit like Lucian (girafarig) and a support like sabrina
for electric you could probably use cheren skyla and I suppose lenora works to debuff spdef

zealous karma
toxic cobalt
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Electric and bug are the tricky ones, Cyrus and Giovanni will blast through Lance and Agatha

zealous karma
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Ye

nimble willow
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I can throw my stuff up there later, got work in the am

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I got to 4.2 in 2 stages

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Gonna try to get to 9k for the extra ex mats

zealous karma
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alr

nimble willow
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Couldn’t wait lol

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Thanks for your help!

zealous karma
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of couse in case you were not aware there are parameter suggestions in the pins if you wish to push your point total

nimble willow
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I’m reading through them now

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How difficult is it to reach 15k

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Is it even possible

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Well it has to be possible

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How hard is it