Champion Stadium

[brave halo]

but then glacia blizzards or icy wind

[mellow linden]

You really want someone with Sunny Day against Glacia since she sets Hail right before she Syncs

Which'll cause damage to be reduced by a fairly significant amount since all opponents have Hail and Hearty

[brave halo]

my only available sunny day users are acerola (awful) blaine(lol no) and sserika(seriously who chooses her?)

[mellow linden]

Literally all 3 of those would be good Sun setter options

[steel kelp]

So you want her to keep hail up?

[mellow linden]

I ran Blaine and SS Erika as 2 of my Sun setters in my clear of this CS

[brave halo]

ive tried with blaine earlier but blizzard still hits way too hard

[mellow linden]

I mean, you can just bring SS Morty and use Gordie or one of the other Sunny Day picks for the Red fight then

Because the Red fight is pretty easy as long as you bring Sun

[steel kelp]

Red hits like a wet noodle

[brave halo]

I'm gonna be so stupid with this I'm calling it

[keen jasper]

That's good actually

[brave halo]

actually no its not

one silver sync after support sync and she takes nothing, both damage reductions are off

[keen jasper]

Are you replacing the hail?

[brave halo]

im replacing as much as i can

[rich needle]

We have a glacia cs?

[brave halo]

blizzard still hits for half on blaine

[rich needle]

Did I miss somethin

[brave halo]

special cs

[silver dirge]

Pasio CS

[brave halo]

fire weak

[rich needle]

O

[brave halo]

literally all you will do is suffer

glacia is such a nuisance

ive been at this for several hours, and over 100 tries

literally this is unfair

[rich needle]

Does she have sentry entry or some5hibg

[steel kelp]

No

Just hail

[rich needle]

Then you should be doing fine damage

Silver is a shockingly strong f2p unit

[brave halo]

well im not, i havent been able to do good damage at all

[rich needle]

You just need perma sun

[brave halo]

none of the round rules for e4 have perma field

only nc red has perma field

[undone ether]

yeah permafield is for NC Red fight

i just flinched him to hell and back .-.

[rich needle]

No like

You just need permanent sun uptime

[undone ether]

oh for Glacia

[rich needle]

For silver

[undone ether]

she puts Hail on entry

[rich needle]

Silvers damage tanks when not under sun

[undone ether]

and she uses Hail before she syncs.

[rich needle]

So set that sun

[brave halo]

This should also explain things

She hits way too hard

Like it's unfair

[undone ether]

If you let Molayne sync, he'll set up Sandstorm ;x

[brave halo]

can we just stop making stages based on weather

[undone ether]

Koga can be problematic if you go for post sync since he sets up Crit Shield aand GuardSpec

[rich needle]

Yessir

Crit shield ewww

[undone ether]

He also maxes out his defenses whenever he gets hit + can give him Eva.

Koga is funny cuz he gets burned so fast

so that's nice

Grimsley is easy enough, but he does get buffed a bunch 😐

so he can surprisingly can hit hard presync

[brave halo]

yeah idk who to use against glacia

i cant do ssmorty cause hes necessary for ncred, all my sun setters are awful for this

[undone ether]

as long as its another Weather, it should work.

[sharp willow]

Blaine will perform fine if you haven't used him already

[brave halo]

ive tried blaine, he cant take a blizzard even at +4 spdef

and sun

[undone ether]

i did post sync for all of them, max hp and max levels. .-.

i had to cheese NC Red sigh

[rich needle]

Well I don’t know how you pre syncer do it so shrug lel

[undone ether]

if you thought Glacia s hitting hard

[mellow linden]

SS Morty is not necessary for the Red fight, it's fairly easy to clear with ANY form of Sun setter

[rich needle]

I Stan drought alert in this house

It’s why ncleaf is one of my favorite units ever

[mellow linden]

Literally just Gordie would work for the Red fight

[undone ether]

If you thought Glacia was hitting hard, wait till you find NC Red queueing Blizzard on Turn 1

[full mesa]

Actually, did that even have defense boost?

[rich needle]

I mean Morty is a good unit

[trail smelt]

SS Morty gives +1 for TM

[rich needle]

Though I guess if ur a pre syncer it’ll be moot

[trail smelt]

And gridded for +1 after first sun I think

[full mesa]

That's it. Unless you got mpr

[rich needle]

+2

He gets +3 defense in one turn

[full mesa]

Not if you play half tm

[rich needle]

And you believe like a naruto fan

[brave halo]

FINALLY

[wicked junco]

2 Noble Roars so you can cancel their buffs, some extra ones only if gauge is an issue

[rich needle]

I said presyncers are built diff kek

[brave halo]

SCREW YOU GLACIA

[full mesa]

I used sleep chain on Glasia. She broke me...

[brave halo]

ARGH

[full mesa]

I try to presync every stage on 3k.

[brave halo]

I got lucky blizzard missed

[trail smelt]

lol

[full mesa]

Also I used a team of NCBlue/Eboar/Torchic MC for Molayne round 3...

[trail smelt]

Glad that’s over with for you

[rich needle]

Most people do

The post syncers are rarer

[steel kelp]

You can miss me with 3k

Don’t care about the rewards enough

[mellow linden]

Insert meme of the puppet guy looking away

[rich needle]

[full mesa]

That team if not for flinches, can't clean even post sync...

[rich needle]

3k takes me about an hour

And I use the forbidden params

[mellow linden]

Tbf a lot of times I still pre-Sync when using post-Sync parameters

[rich needle]

Embrace shittier units kek

Like whether I want to or not cerena presync

[steel kelp]

What like Valerie

[rich needle]

1/5 ss gladion

He doesn’t come close to pre sync

[mortal dirge]

What are those

[rich needle]

(Ignore how awful my params are ahem)

Cobalt knows

Defense params btw

[brave halo]

ok hilda, sc steven, and hilbert, i swear this work for +1 sync from hilda

[rich needle]

Why are zero ex

[trail smelt]

Monotyping is hell lol

[hard notch]

I don’t have many champions spirits

[full mesa]

GJ mate

[wicked junco]

Happens, first time I did this CS I mixed up my Grimsley/Koga teams, had to finish the whole run with no 3k to be able to reset it

[undone ether]

did you manaaged to 15k? or less thaan that? :o?

[brave halo]

I might be crazy for this

[trail smelt]

I always try to get rid of the hard trio or middle trio first if I can help it haha

A Song Of Ice And Fire

[fading cradle]

what would be a good sync pair that can debuff drasna 🤕🤕

[mellow linden]

If it’s Hard Mode you could roll with Ghetsis

If Master Mode then depending on the point value you may need to explore other options

[wicked junco]

Pure stall lmao, spreading damage between the sides and letting Ariados kill himself

Lemme put them in PoMatools rq

[fading cradle]

yeah, im on hard mode, so ghetsis can work out?

[mellow linden]

At the very least it’s worth a shot

[turbid geyser]

This champion staduium made me realize ss red’s sync move is special and not phsyical and it made me had an epeffieny (I haven’t 3/5’d him yet)

[keen jasper]

You actually ran +5 defensive stats? You're brave

[wicked junco]

Why not, the bug kills himself with r2 enhanced statuses and burn/trap

[brave halo]

great now its molayne being the pain

the sides with stupid aoe

but what is up with ssmay, is she actually no good at dps?

[lean lion]

I cleared Molayne with 1/5 SS May, Blaine and Hop

[keen jasper]

May's DPS is very strong

[lean lion]

You'll have to quad queue both May syncs, dps down a side before killing mid. The one remaining side is easy to deal with, can take a hit no problem.

[austere oyster]

I think I screwed myself for this week’s stadium. I can’t reset my progress so now I’m stuck on Malva with the Sp. Atk. boost and her Pyroar can’t have its Sp. Atk. lowered. Even getting rain up immediately doesn’t help. She still dishes ridiculous amounts of damage and I have no way to mitigate it or outpace it…

I already wasted Melony/Lapras too. I could try to off-type with SS Steven but I was saving him for Diantha since I don’t have a lot of Steel dps.

[brave halo]

everytime its always the aoe

why was dena so obsessed with aoe sides

[rich needle]

It’s not was it’s is

And the reason is very simple

Because the sides are supposed to be taken out first or around the same time as the mid

[fading cradle]

so this was my team for drasna and it isn’t really working out 🤕 i don’t have many fairy type units so idk what to do

[wicked junco]

Even in the tips, the sides are always advised to take either at the same time, or before, they punish you with their stronger attacks if you leave the sides alive with no leader (mainly aoe and strong one hit moves)

[mellow linden]

Do you have BP Valerie?

Valerie + Mawile, that is

[swift swan]

Massive gauge issue

[fading cradle]

i dont, i can exchange for her rn though

[mellow linden]

Could do BP Valerie + gauge Support + 3rd teammate then

[fading cradle]

what’s a good gauge support?

[mellow linden]

If you have Sonia (any Move Level is fine here) she can work well

Since Sonia will also help with Attack buffs for Valerie

[swift swan]

Hilbert, sonia, anyone with speed, preferably buffs physical attack as well

[fading cradle]

ooooh alright, yeah i have sonia

[covert badger]

Having trouble with siegbold for 3k, any tips?

pairs for reference

move levels/ex updated

[fading cradle]

so bp valerie, sonia/hilbert, and a 3rd teammate?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, should handle Hard Mode just fine

[wicked junco]

What round? Is Burgh gridded?

[mellow linden]

You may just want to try Poison stall and see how that works out

[brave halo]

ok i might be crazy but i think i just did a quintqueue, or it is considered a quad queue when part is due to max move?

[fading cradle]

alright, i’ll try it out, should i try upgrading stuff like their sync grids or theme skills?

[covert badger]

Burgh is 1/5

[wicked junco]

Max moves don't add to sync countdown

[mellow linden]

If a Max Move happens right after a Sync Move the queue window just continues on through the Max Move

[wicked junco]

Or at least not without passives

[mellow linden]

So it’s just quaduque, basically

[mellow linden]

Shouldn’t be necessary

[covert badger]

Gradual healing is rough, should I try like, janine and bertha + support?

[wicked junco]

What round is Siebold on? R4?

[covert badger]

round 3 sorry

[mellow linden]

If you’re doing Poison stall then you need a Poison inflictor (BP Erika and Lucy are good picks), a debuffer (Janine is the top pick), and a tank

[brave halo]

i did the sync, quickly queued an unecesssary crit up which let me max move right after and quickly was able to queue up again before the opposing ever queued

[wicked junco]

Yeah, I don't think you can do 3k with that bug roster without having to resort to poison stall

[swift swan]

Bugsy + noland is still worth a try

[mellow linden]

Sentry Entry x2

[swift swan]

Ah

Forgot siebold has that

[wicked junco]

Yeah, it's either gridded Burgh or bust from that

And probably needs r4 too to work for 3k

[covert badger]

would janine, geeta, and skyla/sycamore work?

and just wait out the gradual healing?

[mellow linden]

If you’re running Geeta you may as well try off-typing with a damage-oriented team/parameters

[austere oyster]

So I off-typed and beat Malva but now I need to use a dragon against Diantha to finish my hall of fame for this rotation. Is Giratina (counts as ghost, I know) strong enough that I can just throw in Palkia (counts as dragon) and a support and be okay?

[mellow linden]

Geeta doesn’t lend herself well to Poison stall

[grand trout]

Does geeta badly poison?

[hard notch]

Do you have SS leaf?

[covert badger]

nope, but I dont really have anyone that does

[mellow linden]

Lucy or BP Erika

[grand trout]

Yeah ss leaf is better

[swift swan]

Bp erika

Lucy

Bad poison and trap

[mellow linden]

Even Koga works in a pinch

[grand trout]

Bp Janine

She has poison fang

[covert badger]

dont have bp janine, but I can try lucy

[grand trout]

Lucy also has gradual healing so she's good

[fading cradle]

still isn’t doing enough 💔

[wicked junco]

Are you spamming noble roar with Ghetsis?

[fading cradle]

basically, i just don’t know who to target noble roar at, ive been targeting that at drasna

[covert badger]

What tank should I use? Is sycamore my best bet?

[grand trout]

Damn I haven't poison stalled in a while

I used to use viola, leaf, and janine

Lucy can be a tank

[brave halo]

finally done

[rich needle]

I used leaf Janine jasmine usually

For recuperation

[grand trout]

Base jasmine?

[rich needle]

I think I tried Wallace once upon a time as well

[brave halo]

yeesh this was a pain, but you all who want to see it will later after my editing

[rich needle]

Yis

[grand trout]

Lucy will work just fine

I think...

You're debuffing their offenses anyway

[wicked junco]

Anyone that has a buff basically should suffice, why it doesn't work? Do you get killed on sync, or too low damage?

Make sure you're always triple queueing as well

[grand trout]

Damn my last poison stall was during sinnoh debut

[rich needle]

If ur using ssleaf

Why slot in Lucy

[fading cradle]

valerie and sonia were killed by the sync move, ghetsis took too much damage from it (apologize if i don’t understand bc im a big noob at this ☠️☠️)

[grand trout]

She doesn't have ss leaf

[rich needle]

If ur using Lucy

It’s better to use someone with sun to heal

Syncro

[grand trout]

Can you sync before they do?

[wicked junco]

You should be able to sync twice before they do once

[fading cradle]

occasionally, but it doesn’t do much damage

[grand trout]

What round parameter is this?

What's onpre

[fading cradle]

im honestly not sure on how to use my moves wisely since im a bit of a spammer 😰 so idk what order to use moves in

[grand trout]

No i mean what's the gimmick of the round

I think it's special moves are stronger?

Try flareon

Use charm to weaken Molayne

Hilbert is very effective too

[wicked junco]

In this particular comp, the order should always be Sonia (for defense crush proc), Ghetsis (for debuffs), then Valerie for damage

If what's killing you is the sync, spam noble roar only on Drasna

[grand trout]

Can you send your other supports @eternal karma

Omg your supports are perfect

You have good units dear

Try ssa cynthia, the flareon girl, and anni n

[fading cradle]

alright so use sonia first, then debuff with ghetsis before attacking with valerie?

[grand trout]

You still wanna do mono?

[wicked junco]

Sure, although since I assume they're not gridded, the only relevant order there is just Sonia before Valerie

Ghetsis can go anywhere in that order

[grand trout]

You can do flareon girl, calem, and Serena. You can sleep chain molyane

[fading cradle]

yeah they aren’t gridded. does it matter if my valerie is ex or not? i just exchanged for her

[grand trout]

Oh grimsley

Well sleep chaining is needed more than ever tbh

[wicked junco]

It doesn't matter, she still does decent without her sync

[grand trout]

See your serena? She has aoe hypnosis. Make use of that well

[wicked junco]

And I definitely wouldn't EX her before many many other units

[grand trout]

Try flareon girl (sorry i forgot her name) calem and serena

Charm Grimsley and buff calem using his tms and use hypnosis on first queue

Do not attack grimsley until he's at -6

[fading cradle]

alright noted, when’s a good time to start attacking with valerie?

[grand trout]

Once calem used all his non attacking moves spam heat wave while serena always makes sure grimsley is asleep

Use flareon for gauge and hopefully charm the sides too

[nocturne pawn]

or any weather replacement really

literally just anything that isnt hail

[wicked junco]

Always? Once you got the 2 buffs from her TM, do a swords dance, then spam Play rough

[grand trout]

Um idk

[wicked junco]

No need to use the other 2 Swords dance since Sonia TM will provide those buffs

[grand trout]

I always do presync tbh

I live dangerously tho

I have half hp on lol

Well

It's a preference reallt

Are you tryna do 3k

[wicked junco]

For presync comps on 3k, always have Half HP if your tank is good enough

Or have reasonable healing

[grand trout]

I only do it because i don't like turning on any hp or defense params

You can do it and see if it suits you

I was apprehensive at first too

[grand trout]

Doesn't swords dance provide seun

[wicked junco]

It does, but at max attack, 2 Play roughs get more dmg than just 1 with SEUN

[fading cradle]

drasna better count her days istg, how is her back not broken already

[grand trout]

True

[wicked junco]

I only use all Swords Dance uses of Valerie if my support doesn't give me Attack buffs

[grand trout]

Oh it's the zone

[frozen fossil]

Is there a recommended round order for the Fire CS?

[mellow linden]

Focus on the center 1st

That’s your biggest problem, you’re not focusing on the center opponent and so they’re able to get a lot of damage in on you

[grand trout]

Not really

Play with it as you see fit

[brave halo]

best i can say is dont do round 4 on glacia

glacia will be your biggest problem

[wicked junco]

Get the center first, and make sure you triple queue all the way so you can get 2 syncs before hers

[fading cradle]

if u don’t mind me asking, what does triple queue exactly mean?

[wicked junco]

With Sonia as support, you shouldn't have gauge problems for that

[grand trout]

You use three moves before your opponent does one

[mellow linden]

Make sure all 3 of your team members are using a move before every enemy action

+triplequeue

[frozen depot]

In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.

See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[mellow linden]

That video covers it well

[fading cradle]

thanks, i’ll watch it later when i have the time

[grand trout]

Welp

I hate to say this but

Ditch monotype lol

Replace flareon girl with a busted support

Like cynthia

[lunar meadow]

NEVER

[grand trout]

Show

[keen jasper]

Man, imagine monotyping

[grand trout]

Looks like the params I use more or less

[rose ermine]

I cooked

[manic mica]

Hi sorry to ask I was wondering if I could have some assistance with the Bug CS? Because I hit a hard brick wall where my only decent bug striker (or that I thought) kinda gets smacked. Idk if it's poor team building because I was trying to cover the rest of my types (please ping when replying so ik to check)

[wicked junco]

If your "decent bug" striker is a physical one, it's probably not enough for this stage, as it mainly requires Special damage

[manic mica]

I might have better units and just know nothing thats a possibility

I can show all my bug types?

[fading cradle]

dude she literally keeps killing valerie when she gets to her sync move, ive been spamming noble roar and play rough while targeting her

[wicked junco]

By any chance do you have any pair that can change zone, or clear it (like Lisia)?

[left storm]

Did you use sycamore already?

[fading cradle]

i have lisia (the normal one)

[fading cradle]

not yet

[manic mica]

He's actually solid yk

[wicked junco]

Do you have any support that can lower SpAtk?

[manic mica]

Behold my abundance of bug types

[wicked junco]

Or any unit that can take a punch

[fading cradle]

what are some examples?

[wicked junco]

In game, you can use filters to see what units do you have that can lower SpAtk

[fading cradle]

ohhh how do i do that 🧍‍♀️

[wicked junco]

At team building, click the "filters" button, then click the filters you want to use

[fading cradle]

ohhh i got it, i only have sycamore and lillie

[wicked junco]

Any of those are gridded?

[fading cradle]

lillie is

well kind of

[wicked junco]

You could try go for Lillie, Lisia and BPValerie

Lillie should take the dragon hits better with her passive, and Lisia can clear Dragon Zone before you get smacked with her sync

Though gauge might be a bit limited

[fading cradle]

alright i’ll give it a shot

[wicked junco]

You could try swapping Lillie for Sycamore if that's the case

[manic mica]

Congratulations buddy!

[manic mica]

Sorry I was wondering if any of these are viable

[austere oyster]

Limped through with Me/Solgaleo and Kiawe/Marowak (and Cyrus/Palkia doing literally nothing) and finally filled Hall of Fame for Kalos.

[molten ibex]

So this is the best I can make rn for a bug team, do I even bother or just come back to hard champion stadium in the future?

[warped jungle]

Are you doing master mode??

[molten ibex]

No just hard difficulty

[warped jungle]

Can of these be used to clear 3k? Palkia maybe??

[austere oyster]

The folks here taught me very fast that you don’t have to have all three of one type for CS. Just one on-type damage dealer and two others (usually two supports) is enough to do the trick.

[warped jungle]

I would suggest using different types for as much coverage as possible to unlock master mode if it's already locked.

[north crown]

please consider using different types for the type medal

[sharp willow]

most of the time using entirely characters of one type on a team together is going to work worse than a team that uses different types that can support whatever main damage dealer you're trying to use

especially when you need to unlock the medal to get to Master Mode, but just in general

[warped jungle]

As for clearing bug, I did it with lvl 125 Burgh. Idk if sun tiles unlock at 2/5 but he hits really hard.
Burgh almost one shots everyone when he's buffed.

[north crown]

EX Supp, Cyrus, Winona/May gg ez

[molten ibex]

Cool thanks guys, so just one on type unit and then the rest can be fodder to cover the types?

[warped jungle]

Take burgh, a sun setter, and a filler. Ez

[north crown]

Does Meadle know about teambuilding, like at all?

[molten ibex]

I’ll have a look at his sync grid thanks

[molten ibex]

Meadle does not

[north crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a / striker or a tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

[warped jungle]

He got lvl 140 Burgh so I just assumed he knew about it LOL

[north crown]

You'd be surprised how many full rostered players don't know about basic teambuilding.

[warped jungle]

Meadle you can even do master mode with lvl 120-130 pairs.

[austere oyster]

Tbf Masters is pretty different from other Pokémon games with regard to handling type advantages.

[warped jungle]

Just need an on type damage dealer.

[warped jungle]

It's easier than normal Pokemon coz type resistance doesn't exist. Can just off type with some OP unit.

[north crown]

oh boy Burgh has acces to Super Powered 3 on his 2/5 grid

[molten ibex]

Yeah ive played a lot of pokemon but this game is very unusual to the main franchise lol

[warped jungle]

Do you know about sync grids??

[austere oyster]

That’s a fair point but you have to put in some work to get some of those OP units. My off-typing SUCKED until I pitied SS Steven.

[north crown]

iirc Siebold has Sentry Entry x2, correct?

[north crown]

Chyrus and Ghetsis:

[sharp willow]

yep

[molten ibex]

I know how to copy them from the channel for it 😂

[warped jungle]

What does that do?? I cleared it really easily and I was using lvl 110 rapidash to tank

[austere oyster]

They’re aight but they’re free. Games like this deliberately make free units “not-quite-as-good” as ones you “spin the wheel” for. My Cyrus acts like he’s made of paper mache anyway, even if he does hit fairly hard. 🤷‍♂️

[warped jungle]

Okay so bro's super new to the game.

[sharp willow]

doubles the base defense stat

[north crown]

it means we can afford to have more filler types alongside Burgh.

[warped jungle]

Oh so it doesn't even matter when using Burgh

[warped jungle]

Cool cool. When does Burgh get the sun tiles?

[sharp willow]

normally he'd have a 78 defense stat, but because of the Sentry Entry x2 passive he instead has 156. And there's no way to bypass that, you have to either use a special attacker or deal with doing significantly less damage

[north crown]

The "paper mache" attribute isn't just attuned to Cyrus; most strikers, even limited, are like that as a side effect for being unga bunga DPS units.

[north crown]

defensive sun tiles 2/5, offensive sun tiles 3/5

TL;DR just use PomaTools

[austere oyster]

This is true. Even so, it’s hard to compare Cyrus/Palkia to, say, SS Red/Pikachu.

[north crown]

lmao SSRed = Charizard. SSTRed = Pikachu

[warped jungle]

What's the "T" for?

[sharp willow]

thunderbolt

[warped jungle]

Ooh

[north crown]

Thunderbolt. its in paranthesis for his unit name

[austere oyster]

Okay right but you get my point. One of those is MUCH better at off-typing than the other.

[sharp willow]

they give the characters with multiple sygna suits an adjective following the name after the first one in a way to differenciate them

[north crown]

well tbf, you're comparing a masterfair to a pokefair

[warped jungle]

Well yeah, SSR is okay, SSTR is a goddamn nuke

[north crown]

multiple nukes via GMAX*

[warped jungle]

And it sets up super fast.

SSR takes forever to set up

[austere oyster]

Still kicking myself for not properly backing up my game the first time I started. Pulled SSTRed and was MOWING through the game until it crashed on me and I had to start from scratch. 🙃

[north crown]

oh shit that sucks

[steel kelp]

Huh

Why start from scratch

Surely you connected your account

[warped jungle]

I missed all the OP Pikachu banners by a couple of days whenever they were on banners.

And apparantly Alola Ash is never coming back

[austere oyster]

Thought I had but I must have done something wrong. The game froze so bad I had to uninstall/reinstall and, by the time I finished, all my progress was gone.

[north crown]

Alola Ash was a thing?

[warped jungle]

What's the striker Pikachu??

[north crown]

Journeys

[warped jungle]

I thought it was the Z move Pikachu??

[steel kelp]

Nope

[warped jungle]

NVM I was wrong Lol

[austere oyster]

There’s a Pikachu for every role now, right?

[warped jungle]

Yeah, pika can do anything

[austere oyster]

Poké Kid, MC, Ash, SSTRed, and one more?

[north crown]

there's even multiple Pikachus for the main 3 roles

[steel kelp]

There is no sprint

[austere oyster]

Oh wait, Chase is a replacement Tech because MC got power crept so bad.

[steel kelp]

Unless that’s chase exr

Mc isn’t even a real pair

It’s also not that hard to powercreep them

[north crown]

cosplayer, MC, plot armor, living legend, eggmon strike/support/tech, lets go protag

[austere oyster]

The devs just REALLY wanted an OP Pikachu meme team.

[molten ibex]

Still getting my ass kicked in this bug mission lmao

For 2/5 burgh anything I should switch up here?

[fading cradle]

drasna keeps kicking my ass 😭😭😭 this old woman is gonna see her grave if she kicks me again

[north crown]

+reading @molten ibex

[frozen depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[wicked junco]

Just checking, you should really check the video about triple and quadqueue, I've used the same team that I've told you (Lillie, Lisia and BPValerie) with no gear and no sync grids, and only Lillie fainted at the end

So it must be an execution problem

[north crown]

wtf why r u using Lillie out of all supports?

[wicked junco]

Dragon guard

And they didn't have that many resources

[north crown]

Lisia is also a questionable choice

[wicked junco]

Removing dragon zone since no pair of them could withstand their Sync move, even at - 6 SpAtk

[north crown]

If they have Darach, then use him instead

[wicked junco]

I asked for a zone change/clean unit before, and they only told me about Lisia

[north crown]

atp, I'd suggest running a sleep unit over Altaria

[molten ibex]

I did read it lol Burgh just doesn’t put out damage

[wicked junco]

They can't triple queue with Sonia, so I would advise against trying to get more turns without knowing how to properly use gauge

Instead, lower the damage received all they can

[north crown]

so I can safely assume that Burgh had +6 Spatk and +3 Crit, right?

or if you are unsure, you could screenshot the team too

[molten ibex]

I did yeah, also tried using sunny day for the sync grid bonuses but didnt really do anything noticeable, I’ll keep looking around for different units to support but the damage just doesn’t seem good enough from Burgh maybe cause he’s 2/5?

Literally just have this one left now

When does heracross Barry come into scout?

He could save me

[mellow linden]

Siebold has Sentry Entry x2, which means his Defense is doubled and so you’d ideally want Sp. Atk. damage-dealers

You can always try off-typing if you’re having trouble using your Bug roster

And also avoid monotype teams so you can finish type medal ASAP

[molten ibex]

Is there a way for me to negate that defense buff? I’m not too fussed about the medal thing because it’s going to take me another week minimum anyhow so just wanna try complete it for the first time for now

[mellow linden]

No, it doubles his base Defense

[molten ibex]

My bug lineup is totally dead

[mellow linden]

If if were anyone other than Siebold Bugsy + Noland would be great

But you honestly may want to consider off-typing with a special damage-dealer

[steel kelp]

Is gordie just there for medal

[molten ibex]

Yeah basically, plus I was messing around with sunny day buffs but I quickly learned that doesn’t help 😂

[molten ibex]

I’ll have a look thanks

Maybe this?

[north crown]

tbh idk what Jacq does

[molten ibex]

I was thinking that he does good special type damage?

Just what I picked from these options

[north crown]

wow he has a wierd kit

[molten ibex]

Yeah it’s very specific lol

[north crown]

What is your type progression looking like?

Tank/Meatshield, Ghetsis, Sabrina should do the trick.

[north crown]

waitaminute why are there only 7 pairs that are marked as used?

[molten ibex]

I had a filter on so it didn’t show everything 🙂

[molten ibex]

I’ll see what supports I have that can act as a shield

Just glaciate spam with ghetsis?

[peak stirrup]

Who are optimal pairs with 1/5 no EX Volcarona vs r4 Siebold?

I have SC Ingo for bug zone

But idk who would be the other

[north crown]

ghetsis nuke; should be self explanatory once u see the general nuke grid

TLDR noble roar for 3 turns, then glaciate bs

[light oak]

Love me some fire weak cs

[mellow linden]

Ideally a gauge Support who can give at least +1 crit

[civic crater]

Is 1/5 Variety Lucas able to clear any of the Pasio Stadium Stages at 3k? He’s struggling pretty bad against Grimsley

[fading cradle]

i think it’s this, idk how to use my moves wisely, and whenever i try the triple queue, drasna always manages to dragon rush before i can input 2 other moves

[civic crater]

Not to hijack but are you playing at increased speed? I find if I try to play sped up it’s a little harder to triple queue

[fading cradle]

ohhhhh yeah, i didn’t think about that, my speed is increased

[civic crater]

Try it at 1x, you can speed it up after the first turn because you can more easily queue up while your partners are going through their animations

I’ll usually start at 1x and go up to 2x or 3x after I’ve made sure I’m triple queueing

[fading cradle]

i’ll keep that in mind, thanks for the tip 🫡🫡🫡

[civic crater]

Of course! If that doesn’t help maybe try to just remember where the moves are for each of your sync pairs so you can click on them more quickly when you switch between them

I’ve got units to offtype but I really don’t want to offtype if I don’t have to

[fast ruin]

I only got 7050 but it's fiiiiine

Definitely shoulda used silver on molayne instead of grimsley though that one sucked

[covert badger]

What order should I do the fire weak CS?

[steel kelp]

Whatever you want

But you probably shouldn’t do glacia r4

[wicked junco]

I would go with Grimsley->Koga->Glacia->Molayne and I picked better stats down for Red

[brave halo]

I picked the status effect one for red, tried with heat wave but never happened

Oh yeah I posted in #1127046441085452379 of my fire run and you can see where I say about the quint queue, so I guess it's possible?

[mellow linden]

Sync into Max Move just extends the queue window

So you’d effectively only be true quadqueueing after the Max Move

The queue after Sync is a “regular” queue

[brave halo]

Oh, I thought that next right after the sync was the quad

[mellow linden]

It would be a normal quadqueue if it were just Sync into 2 regular moves, but because Max Moves have the same quadqueue window as Sync Moves it just extends the window if you queue Sync Move -> Max Move when you’re queueing your team’s Sync

So it would go Sync Move creates window -> queue window still exists because Max Move is happening -> can quadqueue after the Max Move

[mortal dirge]

Tried to mono fire but was too hard

[brave halo]

I guess I had my hopes up too high then

[mellow linden]

It’s still a good bit of technique to have, it’s just not really a new mechanic so much as it is an extension of an existing one

If you ever need to sneak in a Max Move without Max Countdown it’s potentially an easier way to do it

[brave halo]

I mainly just did the max for defense buffing

[trail smelt]

It was hell for me too lol but did it anyway

[fading cradle]

man lillie dies too damn quickly, im about to drag this stupid old lady to her grave

[autumn jay]

Just to clarify when the MM guide says pre or post sync it means enemy sync right?

[brave halo]

Yes

[lunar meadow]

She's not a tank.
She's a hyper offense buffer

She doesn't buff her own defenses reliably enough to survive

[steel kelp]

Support does not always = tank

[brave halo]

Hilbert is a good example

[grand trout]

@eternal karma how's cs dear

[toxic cobalt]

This explains a lot

[undone ether]

diantha? ye.

I put SST Red on her to make ssure she doesnt have Defenses.

(And paralyze)

[lean lion]

Who else with Red?

K Grimsley with P Marnie were able to brute force through HA4

[toxic cobalt]

Makes sense

[undone ether]

Uh solgaleo

Maxed out solga so he has brainteaser, furious brain and superduper effective 2

22k per hit sunsteelstrike after ss blue's sync

[lean lion]

I'm gonna see if Solgaleo with P Marnie can clear without status

Mine isn't PBd tho

[undone ether]

Solga should go through healthy advantage

[lean lion]

You mean deal good damage anyway or is there a passive I'm missing?

Like Solgaleo has piercing blows on sunsteel strike

Scratch that checked and yeah he does

[undone ether]

All ya need now is defense drops for your survival xd. If she gets +1 def stat... She becomes a meanie

[toxic cobalt]

PB mostly improves gauge

[undone ether]

And the crit buff too

[lean lion]

Yeah Diantha hits extremely hard, even with def down. Pretty much one shots squishies with def buffs

[crystal notch]

any pasio CS do nots?

[woeful wolf]

Is there a off type permamter that has less enemy bulk. Been trying to get through the special stadium and honestly not having ny luck so far with the off type ones shown

[crystal notch]

e.g. r4 glacia is suicidal\

[woeful wolf]

Yeah Glacia is stumping me even with weather change or stat lowering

[crystal notch]

glacia is just nuke her early, change weather, and/or sleep/flinch cheese

[lean lion]

Or poison stall

which I did cause lazy okay i didnt poison stall Glacia, it was Koga mb

[crystal notch]

have been trying to low-cost her using gordie to set sun

this is totally not me procrastinating for my exams no

[crystal notch]

but as it turns out, one blizzard and obviously gordie folds

[woeful wolf]

All of that's been failing ony end 🙃

[undone ether]

Koga is susceptible to Burn

[keen jasper]

All fire-weak stages are

[undone ether]

all of them hve LEssen Burn 4?

he was taking like 10k per burn tick on him lol

[keen jasper]

No

Some of them have Lessen Burn 5 and probably more

[undone ether]

wwell koga was rocking Lessen Burn 4 so that can help with damage

[old orchid]

Well that's Glacia problem. You either minimize her atk as much as possible, or try to beat her pre sync

You can reset for ideal move rotations which only consists of items and single target moves

[civic crater]

Glacia does not mess around holy cow

I don’t think I’m doing 15k on the special stadium lol I had to use Anni N for Koga because my fire types are middling to say the least and Glacia is just demolishing my best off type units

[brave halo]

Try lodge dawn, she works well for her from tm and struggle bug

But still gotta be lucky big time

[civic crater]

Unfortunately I don’t have Lodge Dawn

[old orchid]

Which team did you try on Glacia? Can always resort to sleep/flinch lock her

[silver dirge]

You choose the support based on the team anyway, not the other way around. Lodge Dawn is easily replaceable

[civic crater]

I was trying SS Morty + NC Marnie + Oleana for the venom drench stuff

Maybe I’ll do HP parameters instead of offense since she hits like a truck

[old orchid]

Replace Oleana with someone who can flinch

Or sleep

[silver dirge]

Instead of Oleana bring someone to enhance Marnie or provide some sort of denial

[grand trout]

Glacia still hits hard even with debuffs

Denial is your best bet yeah

[civic crater]

Enhance Marnie? I don’t have dark zone what other enhancement is there for her

[silver dirge]

SpDef debuffs

[civic crater]

For curiosity’s sake I’ll try flinch spamming lol

Ok

[silver dirge]

But if you can buy some more turns with denials that's effectively achieving the same & letting you survive longer

[grand trout]

Elios sing can be useful

[civic crater]

I really don’t need to buy many turns with Marnie idt

I’m going to try to use a less premium weather setter so I can save Morty for champion battle. Maybe I’ll get some nice flinch luck idk

[grand trout]

Do you have ss mina?

Or kriss?

[civic crater]

I do not have SS Mina or SS Kris unfortunately

I wasn’t active during their release or reruns

[grand trout]

What are your other weather units by any chance

[civic crater]

Winona, Maxie, SS Erika, Blaine (used up), Tech Blastoise, NC Silver, Bertha, SS Acerola, OG Acerola, Tech Kabutops, probably some others

Ignoring my hail units ofc

May, Gordie (sorta?), Variety Gio (sorta)

[grand trout]

Asserola could work and use flinch and physical units

[civic crater]

Yeah I was thinking Acerola or Bertha with a flinch unit

[grand trout]

Have you used silver?

He'd go well with asserola

[civic crater]

I unfortunately don’t have the upgrade for him

[grand trout]

Hm idk if it'll work but you can rry

[civic crater]

So I think NC Marnie is probably better even off type

[grand trout]

I forgot what his upgrades do lol

[civic crater]

I’m gonna try Bertha BP Morty NC Marnie for a few attempts and hit the sack lol ty all for help

I have a few weeks I’m not stressin’

[grand trout]

Good luck

[molten ibex]

First time completing hard cs

When attempting master mode, how many of the boxes should you be trying to complete for each battle?

[silver dirge]

The max rewards are 15k which would be 3k per battle, but don't jump straight into max points before you get accustomed to the parameters and what they do - start small at around 850 and work your way up, the crucial rewards stop at around 4.2k total so you're not losing out on too much. We have sample parameters in the pins

The most important thing is to understand what the parameters do and make sure you adjust them to work with your teams

[molten ibex]

Right cool thanks ill have a look

[lean lion]

To add a little to what Arch said. Make sure to read the detailed descriptions for all params (little + symbol top right corner). Often times you will find you can get 300-500 points for "free" by picking the right params.

[molten ibex]

Ill keep that in mind thanns

[grand trout]

What was the initial max points for master mode?

[onyx ice]

1500 per stage

But we had less options

I think at 2500 they added extra parameters

[molten ibex]

Tried reading this but not really sure what I’m looking at. What do the titles mean for the different columns?

[onyx ice]

Your playstile

[molten ibex]

Like pre/post sync what?

[onyx ice]

Pre sync means that you ko the center before the opponent can use his sync

[molten ibex]

I don’t have a playstyle i dont think hahaha

Oh

[onyx ice]

Post sync means that you will let your opponent sync

[molten ibex]

I usually get the side mons becore clearing the center one

[keen jasper]

So you learned how to turn deny

Unless it's not what I think it is

[onyx ice]

Taking down the sides 1st is great if you turn deny

However even if you focus on mid, you may want to put sides in one shot range, because they'll start to spam AOE attacks if you ko the mid

Generally for presync you want to give the opponent the least possible bulk

[molten ibex]

Yeah sounds easier to just get rid of sides first. I don’t necessarily try to turn deny as im not experienced enough to know turn orders but it stops them attacking usually

[onyx ice]

For post sync you want to give the opponent less offenses

[toxic cobalt]

Definitely not easier to get rid of sides first

[onyx ice]

Turn order generally is center > right > center > left > center (if you don't distrupt) however the turn before syncing center will use a scripted move and after syncing center will always attack unless distrupted once you take down center sides will alternate with AOE or powerful attacks

I like to play with -3 sync so I shouldn't have wasted my Leon sync acceleration team before clearing koga

Ended up using Victini with sc Steven and Redlax

Played sunless, but semun is basically the same multiplier, and it saves 150 points

[grand harbor]

Hey guys so why would i repeat champions stadium as master mode?

What would be the benefit?

[keen jasper]

You get the master mode rewards

[grand harbor]

For the power up tickets?

And what buffs would u suggest i select? 😅

[keen jasper]

There's also candy coins in there

And sync orbs

And other good things

[grand harbor]

Nice rewards then

[toxic cobalt]

A rare me finishing CSMM before the last moment #1011675077764456519 message

[grand harbor]

I feel all the extra buffs will make me lose 😂

[toxic cobalt]

Just start with 850 points

[keen jasper]

Only fit in what you can handle

[old orchid]

850 pts barely have difference from hard mode

[silver dirge]

The most important thing is learning what the parameters do and making sure you adjust them for your team

[keen jasper]

And if you feel like it's too easy, you can reset and add more points

[grand harbor]

Seibold down first 😂

He always gave me hard time

Should i go for marlva next.?

[old orchid]

you can go for any order

the pins have a guide on round parameters

[silver dirge]

Leave Wikstrom for R4 iirc he's the only one predominantly physical

[grand harbor]

👌

[grand harbor]

Y is malva so tough in mm 😅

[silver dirge]

Share your parameters & team maybe we can make some adjustments

[grand harbor]

Wanted to save this team for the final

But these are my best physical attackers

This is my roster

[mellow linden]

The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters just set Reflect and Light Screen, which are ignored by critical hits

So with a proper team they’re just a free 100 points in total

[silver dirge]

Also just to clarify, the stage is the exact same until you pick up some difficulty increasing modifiers, which you haven't yet

[grand harbor]

Reflect and light screen are moves? 😅

[grand harbor]

So without modifiers she is same as hard lvl 1?

[silver dirge]

Yep

[grand harbor]

I beat her easy last time 😂

[old orchid]

It's a bad idea to bring a Fire weak tank to a full Fire stage

Another dmg dealer would appreciate Hop more than Silver

[fading cradle]

im about to commit a crime atp bc drasna’s been getting on my nerves since yesterday and i took most of yalls tips and it still isn’t working out

[mellow linden]

You may just want to run 2 Supports so you can more easily get offensive buffs and team bulk

So something like BP Valerie + Sonia + Misty, for example

[fading cradle]

is it the normal misty?

[mellow linden]

Really any version of Misty would actually work in this instance, though Misty + Starmie was the version I was thinking of

[manic mica]

Brutal, I used the f2p sycamore as my striker and it was fine

I'm struggling with bug

[fading cradle]

i yoloed that one with my usual team 😭

[manic mica]

What was that?

[fading cradle]

raihan, neo champ nate, variety falkner 💀

[manic mica]

I have none of those 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[manic mica]

Bro I'm struggling hard I don't think I can do it

[fading cradle]

im struggling so bad with drasna, she’s gonna see her grave soon

[manic mica]

Let's avoid murder but what's your fairy types like

[fading cradle]

ass 😭 i barely have fairy units, i only have like sycamore, lillie, valerie, lisia, and idk 🧍‍♀️

[old orchid]

Have you tried the team Cobalt suggested?

[manic mica]

^^^

[manic mica]

Sycamore walls though

[fading cradle]

not yet, might try it out later, then try out sycamore again

[old orchid]

give it a try

[manic mica]

I agree

I'll also smash away at bug

[grand harbor]

Now its diantha

Solgado is so weak as dmg dealer

[old orchid]

have you looked into Diantha's gimmicks? if not, check the pins, then click on Opponent Kits & Stats

[grand harbor]

Her gimmick is opponent sp att down

[old orchid]

i think you opened the wrong place, Diantha does not lower special attack by any means

this is the right tab: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium?league=6&stage=1750

then click on skills tab, and tell me what damage reduction passives does she have

[grand harbor]

Then y does the

Thought it asks for physical att 😅

[keen jasper]

Both sides have stronger physical damage because of that parameter

[grand harbor]

Her skills are more dmg when her def is up

[old orchid]

i did ask you to open the pins, not the ingame tips

[keen jasper]

Yes, there's that too

[old orchid]

what else?

[grand harbor]

U mean the passives right?

[old orchid]

[grand harbor]

It all revolve around stacking def

[old orchid]

can you please point the skill out?

Diantha only has a damage reducing passive

just one

[grand harbor]

Sentry 1

[old orchid]

it is not the correct one

[grand harbor]

Stoic 4

[old orchid]

you can just find the keyword: "Reduces damage when..."

[grand harbor]

Healthy adv 😂

[keen jasper]

We have a winner folks

[old orchid]

finally

[old orchid]

alright, that means you have to bring someone to inflict a status condition, correct?

[grand harbor]

I put her to sleep

[keen jasper]

It's short

[grand harbor]

🤔 Poison?

[keen jasper]

Possible

[old orchid]

and like you mentioned earlier, she has many Defense related multipliers, that also means bringing someone to debuff defense is ideal

[grand harbor]

Who does sp def buff and status condition then?

[old orchid]

you need defense debuffs, not spdef

[grand harbor]

🤔

[old orchid]

so the main dmg dealer is Solgaleo, find a tank and someone to counter her gimmicks (status + defense debuffs)

[grand harbor]

Was using them

[old orchid]

look into your roster to find who can fulfill the team's needs

[grand harbor]

Then i will remove elio

And put Allister what do u think?

[warped jungle]

Hey so I tried off-typing the water one but got one shot by hyper voice. Why is it hitting so hard?
My team was SCIrida, Viola, SSElesa.

[old orchid]

he doesn't contribute much aside from poison. you can bring someone like Lucy who has extra utility after poisoning Diantha

looks like you don't have Colress, but you do have Kimono Grimsley who happens to have a counter for Diantha, use him instead of Solgaleo

[old orchid]

there is no weather changer there

Malva hits extremely hard under sun

[warped jungle]

Ah okay so just need to set any other weather. Sandstorm works?? Does it over write the sun?

[formal vigil]

yes it does since there both weather

[grand harbor]

Grimsley and get her to flinch? Then screech?

[old orchid]

just using screech is enough

flinch is a nice bonus

[warped jungle]

I thoguht no WTZ works agaitst opponenets too xD

[grand harbor]

And scyther as he is higher level is he good option?

[old orchid]

no, Grimsley desperately needs a speed support, because he is slow and doesn't generate much gauge

is Skyla free?

[grand harbor]

No

To the top from blue?

[old orchid]

it's the same effect as Bugsy's Trainer Move, but looks like you are out of options

so SS Blue it is

sync with him first, then Grimsley after

[grand harbor]

👌

I used to spam solgado sync move 😅

[old orchid]

SS Blue wants to sync first, because he gets more defensive stats from Mega Evolution, and especially the activation of Safety Net passive

[grand harbor]

👌 Didn't notice it

[old orchid]

when you upgrades him to EX, there is more reason to sync with him first

+exeffect

[frozen depot]

Each Sync Move adds a Sync Buff () to your Team, one is a 50% Damage Boost for the Team. When EXing a Sync Pair, you unlock a role specific Powerboost:

• Striker EX: Their Sync Move now hits all targets and has no AoE damage penalty.
• Tech EX: Their Sync Move Base Power gets boosted by 1.5x.
• Support EX: Their first Sync Move gives your Team an additional buff (100% damage increase in total).
• Field EX: Their first Sync Move applies a field before the sync executes, and extends its duration.
• Sprint EX: Their first Sync Move reduces the sync countdown by 3 after the sync is executed.

[warped jungle]

Why did SCIrida do 500 on sync?

[old orchid]

he is a support pair

[old orchid]

sounds like parameter issues and/or non crit

[warped jungle]

I had +3 crit too

[old orchid]

sync moves have innate -1 crit

[warped jungle]

Wait I'll show what I got

[grand harbor]

Let's do this 💪

[old orchid]

is there any reasons you want to offtype? because Cyrus + May combo is literally free

[warped jungle]

Ohh. okay. I was only trying to off type coz I thought I could one shot the whole thing

What does May do?

[keen jasper]

Gives Rain and can do some DPS

[old orchid]

her DPS is solid

[warped jungle]

That team looks really gauge heavy

[old orchid]

and has good sync nuke even before 2/5

not at all

even without speed support

[warped jungle]

okay

so sselesa to buff cyrus works? I won't have to use his tm right?

[old orchid]

Cyrus max speed by himself, May has TM that refills gauge + Racing Rain 2/4

[warped jungle]

Ohhh right need ramming speed for HP

So I do use Cyrus' tm?

[old orchid]

depends on the support

[warped jungle]

I don't think I got anything that can tank and buff sp atk and spd

[old orchid]

Sabrina and L Dawn come to mind as accessible options

if the support is too slow to buff Cyrus, you may click his TM once

[warped jungle]

Don;t have L Dawn. I'll try Sab

[old orchid]

to speed up

you can use Poryphone bot to search for speed and spatk buffers

[grand harbor]

I used his stay sharp, it was a bad idea right? 😂

[old orchid]

no, he needs it to max crit and atk

[keen jasper]

And you have to chain it with Metal Burst

[old orchid]

only use Metal Burst after the first sync, and when Diantha is about to attack

[warped jungle]

Who buffs speed if I got May, Cyrus, Sabrina?

[old orchid]

Sabrina

she has Pep Rally 2 on Reflect

you can also bring a pure defensive tank and use Cyrus' TM twice

[warped jungle]

Okay.

No need to sync with Cyrus I guess?

May is 5/5 and already got a grid

[old orchid]

yes, no reason to sync with Cyrus

[warped jungle]

ok

First turn, only got 8% HP left on Blastoise. Why it hitting so hard!?

It was so easy a week before!

AND I removed the sun turn 1

So it shouldn't even be boosted right?

[old orchid]

does Blue have Wise Entry 2 gridded? he is slow and unreliable at buffing that stat

[keen jasper]

Because Malva hits really hard and she has Dauntless

[old orchid]

you can remove some atk params and replace them with strength or HP

[warped jungle]

Uhh let me check

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing you were hit by Overheat

[warped jungle]

idk. So just bad rng?

Dar pulse hits really hard too

[keen jasper]

Oh Dark Pulse, yeah, forgot about that too

I might just replace Blue for a Sp. Def. buffer

[warped jungle]

When does it unlock? My Blue is 2/5

[keen jasper]

3/5

[old orchid]

oh it's 3/5 exclusive

[warped jungle]

okayy so can't use that.

[old orchid]

do this then

[warped jungle]

okay

difference between atk and strength?

[keen jasper]

Atk directly affects the offensive stats of the enemies. Strength directly affects the level

[old orchid]

strength adds value to all stats, as the level of opponents get increased

[warped jungle]

okay

[nocturne pawn]

i fucking lost cuz of zen headbutt flinching

[mellow linden]

It do be like that sometimes

[nocturne pawn]

and gyro ball does 450 to skyla with maxed defense why do i even bother

[fading cradle]

oh my god i finally beat drasna, i was getting so sick of her

lucky crit at the end

now what-

[grand steppe]

Diantha is more susceptible to Paralysis. She also has healthy advantage 4, so you’ll want to apply one of the 3 permanent duration status effects.

Since it’s the last stage you can take advantage of permanent field effects to make a threatening physical team.

[fading cradle]

i ended up yoloing her with hop and steven (with ghetsis spamming noble roar), it somehow worked out with steven and ghetsis fainting and hop managing to behemoth bash the other two trainers once steven made diantha faint

[nocturne pawn]

well post synced glacia with sst cuz i dont have time to deal with her aoe bullshit

[grand harbor]

So how to search for the players of the special event CS?

To see their gimmick

[full mesa]

The special CS uses the regural npcs. Check their gimmicks on pomatools at each respective region. For the champion just check the region the character is affiliated with ex Red-> Kanto.

[grand harbor]

Ahaa

Okay will check koga then

[grand harbor]

Guys what field effects to remove sand storm? 😅

[nocturne pawn]

any weather that isnt sand

[civic crater]

For Kalos CSMM is it safer to use HP parameters?

[old orchid]

Depends on your team and playstyle. It's always ideal to beat them before they use sync move because most of them have nasty actions after the first sync

[civic crater]

I’m really struggling

They’re definitely a heck of a lot harder than Johto

15k was reasonable there lol

[steel kelp]

Johto is one of the easiest regions

[civic crater]

I could probably do Siebold with damage parameters if I’d EX’d Burgh instead of Lusamine back in the day lol

[keen jasper]

Hoenn/Sinnoh/Kalos are the unholy trinity of CSMM

[civic crater]

I mean I like it

It’s a problem I need to solve that’s what makes games enjoyable

Do yall think EX Lusamine could beat Siebold with damage parameters or would it just be a waste of time because her multipliers are crap?

[keen jasper]

Burgh is miles better IMO

[grand harbor]

Would sabrin be able to tank for this team? Against glacia

[rich needle]

i mean i take a shitton of hp all the time

[grand harbor]

Bertha is yo counter hail

[rotund lagoon]

Just use rain, it powers up Cyrus’ Hydro Pump.

And tbh, Cyrus doesn’t need Sabrina. I think you could do like Roxanne, as long as Cyrus is gridded for Critical Focus.

[grand harbor]

My only character able to make rain is winona will die in 2 hits or something

Sabrina is for healing and tanking

Specially cirus buff take his hp down

[rotund lagoon]

She’s just there to set rain and do just that. I think you’re putting too little faith in her.

[civic crater]

I don’t especially love Burgh because I can’t do any multi target damage and at the end I’m liable to get taken out by the sides even if I somehow beat the center

[rotund lagoon]

Well if you don’t want to worry about HP, Roxanne boosts Sp Atk for Cyrus

Sabrina is a bad tank.

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t worry about base move AoE, it has a damage penalty most of the time anyway.

[rich needle]

if u presync you can very quickly kill the sides

[civic crater]

Yes but at max damage I have to basically OHKO the sides and in any comp I can actually use Burgh he’s the only source of damage

[rotund lagoon]

That’s how it’s supposed to be tho? You hit mid first before sync, then work on sides.

And usually one damage dealer is what a team needs.

[civic crater]

I’m just saying he wouldn’t kill the sides fast enough to not get killed by them

[rotund lagoon]

You’ll have to show your team and your run, cause we have confidence it is possible.

[grand harbor]

So with cyrus and roxane

Bertha or winona?

[rotund lagoon]

Winona. Is your Cyrus gridded for Critical Focus?

[grand harbor]

Well roxane fainted in 2 hits :/

[rotund lagoon]

It’s not supposed to happen first try tho?
But you also didn’t tell us the match this is for.

[grand harbor]

This is the grid guide I used

Glacia Special CS master mode

Last fight in the E4

[rotund lagoon]

I do not see Critical Focus on there. He has no way to max Crit on the team he’s on unless Critical Focus is gridded.

[rotund lagoon]

Also what parameters?

[grand harbor]

I dont see crit focus tiles

[rotund lagoon]

Bottom left, yellow tile.

Check #1008010844547842079 for the preset

[grand harbor]

Yes the sync grid guide for cyrus i sent u is from spark

[rotund lagoon]

Ah you’re trying 800. Well just try the match a few times first, you seem to give up really fast.

[grand harbor]

Roxane is 3* maybe if i got her to 4?

[rotund lagoon]

Oh also turn off Tech, no wonder Winona is dying

[grand harbor]

😂

[rotund lagoon]

Try the match first before making investments like that.

[grand harbor]

Okay

[rotund lagoon]

But here

Presets in the pins

[rich needle]

Is molayne preternaturally fat

Like he’s reeeeeeally tanky

Ncleaf made me presync again

Lel

[civic crater]

I ended up doing Siebold totally overkill with SS Morty, Iono, and Burgh but ig it worked so ty whoever tried to convince me to use Burgh

[noble plaza]

What's the recommended order for the Fire CS

[civic crater]

Malva seems good 2nd otherwise no idea

Oh for fire no idea I heard you don’t want to do Glacia 4th though

[civic crater]

Who is a reasonable third unit in a team of May and Kris?

[nocturne pawn]

hilbert

[grand harbor]

Why didnt grimlock counter trigger when he used sync move on the team?

[steel kelp]

Sync doesn’t trigger counter or defensive moves like wide guard

Only regular moves

[grand harbor]

Okay thanks alot

[rich needle]

Special moves against grimsley or molayne

Thus them 4th round

Technically stat lower is what grims does as well so don’t do round 3 on him

[sharp willow]

I would just not do Glacia round 4 really

The rest aren't any big deal

[grand harbor]

So diantha

Always finish grimsley with the first sync move

After he dies no. More def debuf :/

Lol funny enough scyther got the job done as he lowered def of sides too

So for glacia silver ho oh or cyrus wld be better?

[grand harbor]

Tried courtney bertha and elio but unfortunately failed withem many times

Giovani doesnt deal much too

Who should i try cyrus is good dealer but him with winona and roxane doesn't sustain

[civic crater]

I ended up going Elio and it was pretty painless to clear the stage

[grand harbor]

🤔 Really cant deal with glaci

[peak stirrup]

TIL Siebold out heals poison stall

[cold tusk]

next weeks rock weak malva needs sp atkers right?

[steel kelp]

Not necessarily need

It’s just if you’re doing physical it’s like offtype

[noble plaza]

Should I r2 Koga, Molayne or Glacia?

[silver dirge]

Doesn't matter

Whatever you do don't leave Glacia R4

[noble plaza]

Got it

[noble plaza]

why is Glacia so stronk 😭

[grand steppe]

They increase her HP and Sp.Atk

It's encouraging you to build with Sp.Dmg reduction or Sp.Def buffing in mind, but with invested units it can be powered through. However even bulky teams can hardly handle 2x Blizzards from her back-to-back.

[woeful wolf]

For people having issues with Glacia i have come to help

I used this strategy with Serena SS Morty and SS Brendan and it worked!
Ya just need to make sure she sleeps the whole time

https://youtu.be/B7MO28Z2g6A?si=aQv2brHwSEO788t9

[grand steppe]

Ah yes....

[woeful wolf]

Yeah cheap strategy but it worked 🙃

[paper summit]

turn denial is a very well known strategy to use, nothing new there

[undone ether]

Ss lyra lets go o.o

[woeful wolf]

I use it often

[civic crater]

Should I just cheese Glacia with NC Red? That sounds lame lol

She seems a little overtuned though lol so maybe it’s not that lame to try to cheese it

[grand steppe]

stunning isn't any lesser of a clear, I was just saying it's a known quantity in cs clears

clear however you like / enjoy

[civic crater]

Oh no I don’t think it’s illegitimate or anything I just try not to use my super duper OP stuff when possible

[undone ether]

As long as you clear, its still a clear

[grand steppe]

You don't need to use ncRed, any flincher or sleeper can do the same thing.

[civic crater]

I mean I agree the game doesn’t care what you use and I don’t personally give two hoots what anyone else uses as long as they’re having fun

[undone ether]

Glacia gets a combo of NC Leaf, SS Red and SS Morty for me .-.

[civic crater]

I really wish I’d pulled for Leaf too

I love all 3 birds so much so it was hard to pick which one to go for. I probably could have gone for all 3 idk

What are yall using for Drasna this week?

I had to resort to SS Gladion I wasn’t seeing how BP Valerie was gonna pull that out lol

[old orchid]

No reason to use Valerie when you have SS Gladion

[civic crater]

I mean logically no, but as a unit I think she’s a little bit more fun to use

[keen jasper]

BP Valerie is pretty powerful for a F2P fairy damage dealer

[civic crater]

I mean yeah she’s pretty good, I just wasn’t seeing how I was going to beat the stage with her after trying with some pretty strong comps (w/ SS Acerola, Sonia, etc.) so I was wondering what everyone else was using for the stage

[steel kelp]

Ingo emmet nc silver

[swift swan]

Volo ss Gladion

[warped jungle]

I'm unable to clear any of the stages

Why is it so damn hard!?
I tried the water stage 20+ times. They are hitting so fucking hard

After removing the atk buff and adding hp buff SSBlue's health remaining after first atk went from 8% to 15%. But that's it.

The hyper voice still killing everyone

[swift swan]

what's your team and full parameters?

what you want to remove is the sun

[warped jungle]

Team was Swampert, Cyrus, SSBlue

I use rain to remove sun

[swift swan]

that team should work fine. what parameters is this? and what round?

[warped jungle]

Round 1

[swift swan]

Malva does hit very hard, tbf

[warped jungle]

Yeah! That b hits waaay too hard.

[swift swan]

what you can try is moving Malva R3 to abuse the special damage reduction shield. it will disrupt your quadqueue, but if your ss blue is 2/5, he should have adrenaline

either way, she has very powerful moves that can oneshot most tanks, so either deny it or reset to avoid it

[warped jungle]

Okay so R3 would be better

Are the other 3 the same?

[silver dirge]

Are you doing mastermode? Because if so your parameters matter more than anything

[warped jungle]

Yeah master mode

Wait I'll show you the parameters

[silver dirge]

Make sure you share your parameters too for someone to have a look

[warped jungle]

This is what I'm running. I was running all atk parameters before but changed some to not die turn 1.

[civic crater]

The team seems pretty reasonable, it’s definitely bulkier than the team I used for the stage. If she uses Dark Pulse or Overheat turn 1 you’re kinda just guaranteed a bad time if you can’t deny her. Have you tried to put a flincher or some such on the team to try to deny?

[warped jungle]

Nope. I don't think I got the leeway to run a flincher. I'm very limited on the pairs I got

Cyrus is my best water dps I think

[civic crater]

I have no idea if you have him, but I used Elio over SS Blue and just put Pyroar to sleep turn 1

[warped jungle]

I do have Elio