Champion Stadium

[hidden monolith]

Or actually Dawn, her nuke literally carried me

[verbal karma]

hmm...Dawn might be better for R1 tbh

and I don't know where else I could use Mallow, sooooooo

[hidden monolith]

Dawn can nuke middle pretty quickly

[mortal dirge]

I can’t even make the first team work haha

[trail smelt]

It was pretty close, and I used a team that has no need for WTZ so I used that parameter

[gritty salmon]

This two teams i have. Can anybody help me for two more ?

[undone ether]

It this johto champion stadium?

[gritty salmon]

Yes

[old orchid]

We cannot spoonfeed you forever, so how about you trying to build some teams for yourself and ask for feedback later?

[gritty salmon]

For the last two i need a Team

[old orchid]

Also you were told to not use Lusamine and Steven together earlier

[gritty salmon]

Okay, i try one and send it to you

Steven is in this Team te wall

[main crow]

Skyla is already a decent tank

Steven could easily gone to another team

[silver dirge]

Keep Bianca in Team 2 and take out Steven

Give Steven his own team like Kazu said

[undone ether]

he ran them already it looks like ;o

[silver dirge]

Oh

Reading moment

[toxic cobalt]

Focus on the future! Pick a striker for fairy, rock, water

[gritty salmon]

What do you think?

[undone ether]

Have Zamazenta tank.

and Xerneas/Sycamore needs at least level 100ish

[silver dirge]

Not a bad team, although Sycamore isn't doing much there

Replace him with a defense debuffer to enhance Gloria's damage further

Can you find one in your roster?

[verbal karma]

Team 96: R1 Grimsley
Team 97: R2 Bertha
Team 98: R3 Bruno
Team 99: R4 Lorelei
Team 100: NC Serena

That good?

[main crow]

Dawn nuke

what's nanu there for tho? Flinch?

[undone ether]

I saw that you have Masked Royale, you can add them to your Gloria/Zacian + Hop/Zamazenta.
Masked Royale can debuff ATK/DEF AoE, and can boost your team's speed to max with his TM x2

[gritty salmon]

Oh nice

[exotic tinsel]

Anyone I should be investing in for the grassy stadium? I figure mix red solos champion, but not sure what else besides that. Aiming for 2-2.5k points per stage

[old orchid]

Mix Red, SS Acerola, Shauna and SS Erika are good options overall

Dawn is good against physical heavy stage like Bruno

3/5 Selene gets all of her tools but she is not useful generally

[austere oyster]

Almost hit 15 types in Johto CS today but I forgot Drasna and Cyrus don’t count as Poison or Water. 🤦‍♂️ I’m missing Normal, Dark, Bug, Water, and Poison going into next week before I can get my first Master Mode unlock.

[verbal karma]

he and BP Clemont debuff defense together

so that Dawn hits even MORE hard

or would another team benefit from Defense debuffing as well?

[silver dirge]

Where is Dawn's crit?

[gritty salmon]

Is that Team okay ?

[silver dirge]

Pretty decent, you'll want Dauntless lucky skill on Brendan but it shouldn't be too big of an issue for Hard Mode

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I forgot: I don't have anyone to buff Dawn's crit, whoops

[silver dirge]

You don't have anyone to buff her attack either so

[steel kelp]

dw they’re relying on her passive

[mellow linden]

• Rosa and SS Elesa are already redundant, and their Sp. Atk. buffs are entirely wasted on Brendan since he maxes it turn 1.
• SS Leaf isn’t getting her proper buffs if you’re trying to do an offense clear, and if you’re trying to do a Poison stall clear there’s way better Support picks than Shauna

The issues with the Dawn team have already been stated

But also running Nanu and BP Clemont on the same team is redundant, you only need one or the other

[crystal notch]

Anyone we shouldn't fight on r3?

[silver dirge]

R3 is the faint round no?

Oh you mean Pasio CS, mb

[crystal notch]

Pasio CS ya

[gritty salmon]

This is pretty good i think or what you think?

[silver dirge]

Avoid Lorelei

[crystal notch]

Half sync CD is always the problem

Ha, noted

Thanks!

[silver dirge]

Or Bertha, actually

(I misread the params again, sorry for the throw around )

[verbal karma]

I mean, Dawn buffs her own Attack

[mellow linden]

You don't need to make a monotype team, I'd recommend a dedicated gauge Support + a crit buffer for Brendan teammates (though if you can on-type I'd recommend trying it)

[mellow linden]

Dawn's Attack buffs are not quick or reliable

Not even close to quick or reliable

[gritty salmon]

@mellow linden okay, what do you think is a better Part?

[verbal karma]

okay, in that case, I'll replace Nanu in the Dawn team with an offensive buffer

[steel kelp]

I knew they were gonna bring up dawns passive

[verbal karma]

as for the Brendan team:

• SS Elesa does sync accel, which I kinda need for the R3 gimmick
• Rosa is there for move gauge reasons (since I am worried that Brendan might be TOO move gauge hungry)

[mellow linden]

Are you planning to stick with building a team around Brendan or do you wanna try a Rock damage-dealer?

[verbal karma]

I can replace Rosa with someone else, but SS Elesa has to stay tbh

[mellow linden]

Why?

[steel kelp]

Wasting 2 slots

[mellow linden]

Why specifically is she there?

[verbal karma]

as for the SS Leaf team: I actually don't know if I wanna go offensive or poison stall, so I kinda went with some weird middle ground

[steel kelp]

There is no middle ground to be had

[verbal karma]

SS Elesa? because of the sync accel, of course

[mellow linden]

Don't do that sort of thing

[steel kelp]

Pick one

[mellow linden]

I assume you plan to skip 3 turns at the start of the fight with Head Start on SS Elesa then?

Because if the Sync Accel is just to avoid having to quadqueue you can run a proper Brendan Support and then bring your C. Elesa

[nocturne pawn]

what the fuck is with grimsley hes taking no damage from physical

[lean lion]

Dawn needs a atk debuffer for Pecking Order

[silver dirge]

Nothing that would reduce physical damage

[mellow linden]

Could be accidental PDR8

[sharp willow]

you probably have physical damage reduction 8 on

[verbal karma]

Dawn has Power Syphon, though?

[nocturne pawn]

its not i checked three times

[verbal karma]

actually, wait

I wanna know

[nocturne pawn]

when i tried selene she did like half with 2 syncs

[verbal karma]

how exactly is Power Syphon to slow?

Dawn wouldn't do the first sync anyway

[nocturne pawn]

ss erika cant even one shot with a full boosted nuke

[sharp willow]

that requires being hit at least 6 times, its not really a great option

[nocturne pawn]

on hit passives are slow as fuck

and cs wont always attack

[mellow linden]

Because it's 100% reliant on the opponent actually attacking

[verbal karma]

hmm...okay, good point

[mellow linden]

It's slow and unreliable since the opponent can use TMs

[verbal karma]

man, this is getting kinda complicated

[steel kelp]

Time for enemy to sync and kill you

[old orchid]

seems like you stacked too many HP and strength params

[mellow linden]

It really isn't that complicated

[steel kelp]

It’s not complicated

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

If you really gotta maximize Dawn's Sync nuke quickly you can just do something like Sonia + Lucian

[steel kelp]

why does this happen every week

[lean lion]

Like others have said. Too slow.

[nocturne pawn]

i only took strength 12

well “only”

but still ss erika shouldnt have trouble against unova

[mellow linden]

I will say that going long-haul with post-Sync parameters as a base doing triple Support with Hilbert + BP Morty + Dawn worked for me on Round 3 Bruno

So make of that what you will

[silver dirge]

no accidental crit shield?

or defense

[nocturne pawn]

def 1

[silver dirge]

that's not too bad

[lean lion]

Here's an example of a working team

[nocturne pawn]

actually no i took it out for status immunity

so i dont know anymore

[formal vigil]

Physical damage reduction?

[nocturne pawn]

isnt pal marnie kind of a waste here

[nocturne pawn]

its off

[formal vigil]

Could have used darach for faster attack debuffs

[lean lion]

Just there to debuff atk. What would you recommend I bring instead?

[steel kelp]

I think I remember grim also taking physical for some reason

[lean lion]

And I kinda wanted to use her, new pair and all

[silver dirge]

Lucian or Lodge Wally if you need Pal Marnie elsewhere

[nocturne pawn]

lucian

[silver dirge]

If not, then there should be no issue

[nocturne pawn]

cuz dawn struggles with speed

[formal vigil]

Ghetsis or darach too

[lean lion]

Didn't need her elsewhere

[silver dirge]

That's fine then

PMarnie also lowers def by 2 on entry, nice 'lil boost

[nocturne pawn]

oh wait darach is probably better

cuz he has +4 speed on tm

[lean lion]

Yup amd here debuffs are quicker than Lucian. 4 turn for -6 atk.

[silver dirge]

[old orchid]

i never think about Darach when i use Dawn's nuke
||her usual partner is BT Leon anyways||

[lean lion]

I'm really poor after the anni but I can't wait to EX Dawn. Loved using her!

[verbal karma]

I don't have Pal Marnie

[lean lion]

...

[mellow linden]

Read this then

[lean lion]

Lucian also works

[mellow linden]

Or what Trout showed you there, yeah

[nocturne pawn]

darach ghetsis or lucian

[exotic tinsel]

Can ss Erica function as a carry here?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, she's a good damage-dealer option

[mortal dirge]

How should I use this on the new CS?

[steel kelp]

You’ll be fine

Pretty much everyone there can work as a solo damage dealer or in some cases dual

[manic kiln]

lyra, adaman, mix red, sserika, brendan
5 teams
pick 5 supports and fillers

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah just make your own teams for them and you’ll be fine.

[manic kiln]

most of them can presync the half sync round too

[mortal dirge]

Any particular order?

[manic kiln]

not really
bertha r2 and lorelei r4 but that's all

[toxic cobalt]

Alright, let's do this grass thingy

[mortal dirge]

alright will do

Bertha needs to have sun right

SS Erika and Meganium is the way

Tapu Bulu where?

[verbal karma]

okay, replaced Nanu and Clemont in the Dawn team

[mortal dirge]

Got fucked

[verbal karma]

Updated my teams

is this good now or is there anything else I can improve?

[main crow]

Brendan would might want someone to raise speed for max intertia

Unless ur running amped up on grid ig

[gritty salmon]

@mellow linden no, i want win haha a Rock DD is good

[verbal karma]

I am running Amped Up

[mellow linden]

Can you show your Rock pairs then?

[gritty salmon]

@mellow linden

[mellow linden]

Paulo's plenty for Hard Mode, can just level 120 him and build a team around him

Make sure to check out our Teambuilding 101 in #1010307000346878062 for some helpful guidelines!

[verbal karma]

alright, I'm not seeing any other objections, so I guess the 5 times I compiled are good enough for the job then

let's get this bread!

[loud stratus]

Did they remove the tips from the special cs? I remember the previous ones having tips

[gritty salmon]

@mellow linden okay thank you, can recommend one Team?

[mellow linden]

I'm only gonna recommend the damage-dealer to build around because Hard Mode is a great place to get a good grasp on your Teambuilding skills

Btw, if you use the Reply feature of Discord it'll ping me as a default (and you can also turn off the ping when replying if needed/desired, so you can keep those in mind as appropriate)

[mellow linden]

Your SS Leaf still isn't getting the buffs she needs

Apologies for the late reply

SS Leaf's personal damage relies on Frenzy Plant (a special move) and her Sync Move (which is special)

Hop only covers her crit buffs and there's no one to buff her Sp. Atk.

If SS Elesa's Sync accel is only to avoid quadqueue then your C. Elesa would help more. Fall Caitlin does not provide all that much to Brendan (if you're gonna have him use Dire Hit+ once then Marley would be a better pick)

[mellow linden]

If you're actually planning to go full Poison stall with the SS Leaf team, consider BP Morty since he has Synchro Healing and buffs both defenses

[mortal dirge]

Whats the catch with Lorelei R4?

And who’s the best striker

[gritty salmon]

How can i find the Team Building Part? I dont see it

[old orchid]

you have been told multiple times that the guide is in #1010307000346878062 channel

[old orchid]

R4 is special shield on entry, it helps with tanking some Lorelei's special moves

[mellow linden]

It's in #1010307000346878062

Specifically the 3rd major section

[verbal karma]

God, I hate the half sync countdown gimmick

[silver dirge]

It looks like Koga is going to ruin my 4.5k per stage plan why is this stage in Johto

[lean lion]

4.5!?

[rotund maple]

How strong of a team do we need to clear champion stadium hard mode lv 1?

[silver dirge]

Not very, Johto is relatively mild, but you do need to know your way around teambuilding & gameplay

[rotund maple]

Like, are those battles passable just with a not-so-tailored type advantage team?

[silver dirge]

Are you familiar with the teambuilding guide?

[rotund maple]

Yea

[silver dirge]

Yes, you can easily off-type, especially hard mode

[rotund maple]

But it's hard to set up 5 teams

[silver dirge]

We can help you with that, can you show your roster?

[rotund maple]

Sure

[silver dirge]

+tracker Ideally if you've got time you can fill out the tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[silver dirge]

Otherwise screenshots are fine for now, just make sure you sort them by role & take them from the move level menu

[rotund maple]

Slowly getting through the legendary adventures too

Ah a tracker, I'll do that if it's easier 😂

[silver dirge]

Okay I see some strong pairs there

• NC Silver handles vs. Karen
• May + Cyrus can handle a stage
• Silver/Ho-Oh handles vs. Koga
• Poison stall on Will
• SS Steven handles a stage

I want you to use some of the teambuilding concepts and form teams for each of the pairs/duos I've mentioned, we'll give you feedback on them

Poison stall we'll explain after you've done that

[rotund maple]

oh, put may with cyrus + lucas? or split lucas off?

[silver dirge]

You can either go for May + Cyrus and focus on water-type damage (since one of the stages is water weak)

Or you can go for Lucas + Cyrus for dragon-type damage (this would be off-type, so the one above is easier this time)

[rotund maple]

ah ic, so cyrus water moves dont get benefit from dragon zone?

[silver dirge]

They don't

It would only benefit a dragon type move

[rotund maple]

oof, ic ic, also, this is probably a preference thing, how much worse is a preevolved form? XD

do kinda love the preevolved forms, so very reluctant to evolve them if it is possible XD

aka, if a few levels still can cover for it 🙂

oh, and lv 120 should work for them mostly?

[silver dirge]

You should definitely evolve them, there's a notable stat difference + some sync tiles are locked to specific syncs once they've evolved

And yes, 120 is fine

[light oak]

Grass types are overrated

[rotund maple]

ah ic ic

ty

will focus on those sets for now

[fading arrow]

wow i forgot how fun poison stall can be

[verbal karma]

...okay, no

Brendan isn't strong enough to beat R3 Bruno pre-sync

I need a new team instead

[full mesa]

What about the broken monkey?

[main crow]

Wait why not use SC Rosa? I am certain she has the nuke and DPS to deal with Bruno

[nocturne pawn]

fire weak koga gives me cancer tbh

[main crow]

The Victor is on their Serena team

[nocturne pawn]

he does so much damage for no reason

[rotund maple]

@silver dirge umm... forgive the ping, but something like this would work? Empty spot for hooh?

[nocturne pawn]

but ny wallace absolutely shreds fire weak so happ

[verbal karma]

even on R3?

[rotund lagoon]

Why not?

She has innate Smarty Pants iirc, a good nuke multiplier

Wait I forgot this is Grass CS, disregard the above

Why not use your second best team for R3? Did you plan your teams beforehand?

[rotund lagoon]

Are you asking about the D Team, by chance?

[rotund maple]

Oh, all 5 teams 😂

By archs advice, to have them set up

D teams opening will be hooh, still going thru its story atm 😂

[silver dirge]

• Team A & B look good for the purpose of hard mode, good to get those types in
• Team C - replace Skyla with a special support like Sabrina or Sycamore to help buff May & Cyrus' stats
• Team D - Consider replacing Ethan with a random type for the medal, and a more dedicated support for Silver's stats
• Team E - Lucas is pretty self sufficient, Sycamore can move to Team C instead & this team can have a random type for the medal

[rotund maple]

Medal? Oh for the completion chart?

[sacred mountain]

Is the special stadium off typable ? I rarely do even 12.5k s but I'm low on spirits and tickets so I think I'll have to go higher points for a few weeks

[silver dirge]

mhm, in order to unlock master mode

[mellow linden]

Should be doable off-type with the right teams, yeah

[rotund maple]

Ah, those have to be done in a single cs to unkock?

[mellow linden]

Can also Poison stall some of them

[paper summit]

no, you can't slot 18 types in one week

[rotund lagoon]

Most you can do is 15

[rotund maple]

Ah ic ic, so basically a headstart on unlocking masters?

[rotund lagoon]

Idk what you mean by headstart, you are only able to do it in two weeks at least.

[rotund maple]

Oh, any suggestions on which bonus for which boss? I assume will takes the status effect for the poison stall?

[mellow linden]

2 weeks minimum to do type medal, but progress for a given region’s medal is saved forever as long as you beat the Champion last week, so if for some reason life happens and you can’t get back to CS after week 1 until after Johto leaves you’ll be able to finish it when Johto comes back the next time

[mellow linden]

The round parameters this week aren’t very important

[rotund maple]

Oh that's great 😊

[hidden monolith]

Might wanna relplace Clemont with Hop

[mellow linden]

And in general you shouldn’t try to force your teams to be built around round parameters

[rotund maple]

Yea, mostly aiming for a clear to unlock battle rally for now 😊

[rotund maple]

And ty for the suggestions, will make changes as adviced

[silver dirge]

[dreamy sigil]

Did 1.5k grass cs with no trouble, had to off type 2 fights cuz my grass roster is kinda small

[rotund maple]

So for johto hard mode lv 1, something like this should be fine? Assuming all will be at lv 120?

[verbal karma]

sadly, not enough after all

[verbal karma]

that team is outdated already

[rotund lagoon]

I realized you could use SS Erika cause I forgot the round param

And yes, her nuke is more than capable

[verbal karma]

I am already planning to use SS Erika for R5

[verbal karma]

and I literally tried with SC Rosa, it is NOT capable

it only removes, like, 1/3 of Bruno's healthbar

[rotund lagoon]

Her and Victor on the same team? Victor is fine by himself

[rotund lagoon]

This is about Erika, not Rosa.

[verbal karma]

damn, I already wanted to use SS Erika for R5, though

I'd rather try to form a R3 team around Victor tbh

[hidden monolith]

Did you give up on Dawn's nuke 😞

[rotund lagoon]

Okay but if you’re in this spot and you have two overkill damage dealers on the same team…better to split them.

[verbal karma]

I did not, Dawn just got two different supporters

[rotund lagoon]

Except you need a reliable Speed debuffer for R5, knowing your situation.

Victor covers that for Serena’s fight just fine.

[verbal karma]

wait, hold on

I just realized I forgot to change params when switching Brendan with SC Rosa

lemme try again, but with new params

[hidden monolith]

Ah alright alright

Send updated teams

SC Rosa should not struggle, like at all

[hidden monolith]

I only used one striker to beat Cerena

I assume team 100 is meant for her ?

You definitely don't need both SS Erika and Victor, spread em out

[rotund lagoon]

That’s what I said lol

[hidden monolith]

Oh yeah then for sure

If you feel like Mallow/SS Acerola/Selene can't do enough you could just throw SS Erika there

Even tho I don't see a reason why they shouldn't work together, SS Acerola carries hard

[verbal karma]

sadly, SC Rosa is STILL unable to beat Bruno with her sync

like, straight up

[hidden monolith]

Is Bruno R3?

[verbal karma]

yeah, Team 100 is for NC Serena

[verbal karma]

yup

[hidden monolith]

Yeah you might wanna use Dawn for that, can your NC Rosa tank Bruno's sync ?

[rotund lagoon]

Then do SS Erika like I suggested.

[verbal karma]

I already used Dawn for R1

[hidden monolith]

Then listen to Annie, SS Erika is the play

[verbal karma]

again, I'd rather wanna use Victor for R3 than SS Erika tbh

[hidden monolith]

You might wanna add an attack debuffer

[hidden monolith]

Why? for the stage parameter?

[rotund lagoon]

Uhhh you basically answered what I said

[hidden monolith]

Both need their Field effect

[rotund lagoon]

Use Erika for R3, Victor for R5

[hidden monolith]

Erika wants sun, Victor wants GT

[verbal karma]

Victor doesn't get Grassy Terrain regardless, though?

Bulurola was used for the R2 team, remember?

[hidden monolith]

No reason to build your team around that, + you shouldn't even rely on that infinite WTZ uptime, the stage should be over way earlier than that

[hidden monolith]

Oh, mb

[rotund lagoon]

I think this is becoming confusing now.

[hidden monolith]

I honestly just thought he did, hold on for a second

[rotund lagoon]

Let’s take a step back for a minute.

I’m going to say this simply: For R3, use SS Erika and build a team around her. Make sure you have a second sun setter, it takes off the burden of Erika setting it herself.
For R5, use Victor. Doesn’t matter if he has Grassy Terrain or not, just make a team for him.

Easy peasy.

[hidden monolith]

If you find SC Rosa not doing her job, You should do what Annie says and throw SS Erika in there, alongside some attack debuffer and a speed buffing tank, Skyla works great

I think an attack debuffer is more necessary since Bruno can do a lot of damage

[verbal karma]

...funnily enough, the SC Rosa in the team was originally a Brendan

since that was the initial suggestion to me for R3 Bruno

[hidden monolith]

I struggled using Brendan for R3 Bruno, this is why I ran Dawn

[verbal karma]

sadly, I already used Dawn for R1

so that's not an option anymore

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah Trin said multiple times he cannot use Dawn.

So I’m leaving that off the table.

[hidden monolith]

Have u cleared R2 yet?

[rotund lagoon]

Trin said he is on R3.

[hidden monolith]

Oh, okay

Yeah tbf I'm stupid for asking that

[rotund lagoon]

So let’s leave out parts that are not existent rn, cause that just made the whole convo…confusing.

[silver dirge]

If you're advising, please try not to convolute & confuse the person at hand - it's going to overwhelm them very quickly.

[hidden monolith]

Got you!

[verbal karma]

...actually, why was Brendan suggested to me for R3 Bruno again?

gotta try it with him again and see if I am missing something

[left storm]

Clear for arch, posting it here too

4500 points koga

[verbal karma]

...okay, I don't get it

I just don't get it: just HOW is Brendan supposed to be able to beat R3 Bruno?

why was he suggested to me?

and while we're at it: why is SC Rosa's DPS and sync damage so low, too?

[left storm]

Sounds like yet another parameter issue

[verbal karma]

Well, what am I doing wrong with the parameters for Brendan then?

[left storm]

Those look fine

Probably a teamcomp problem then

[left storm]

EleSSa is redundant af

Sceptile already maxes spa

[halcyon sail]

Double supports in general is rarely a good idea

[left storm]

Nah double support is fine

It's just

Double support, one of which is half useless and will fuck your queues?

Yeah don't .

Would be genuinely be better off running egg tech sprigatito

Or egg leafeon

[verbal karma]

oh, EleSSa is here for sync accel, actually

[left storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-kirk-gif-20910726

[verbal karma]

I mean, it is R3, after all

[left storm]

Ok irony aside

[verbal karma]

and I am absolutely hellbent on trying to presync R3 Bruno

[left storm]

Sounds like a you issue

[halcyon sail]

What is the R3 rule

[left storm]

Halved cd

[verbal karma]

and getting EleSSa's TM 3 times and a successful quadqueue is the only way for me to get 2 sync attacks before Bruno gets to sync

[left storm]

And Bruno has endurance

So...yeah lol

[halcyon sail]

Is hard with a non ex striker sync

[left storm]

And why would you, who struggles to do normal comps, try to cook up such RNG clear?

[verbal karma]

because I don't know how else to do pre-sync on a halved CD gimmick

[left storm]

Sounds like you're making this much harder on yourself for no reason

[verbal karma]

because post-sync absolutely never worked for me

and that was before the increase from 2.5k to 3k, too

[halcyon sail]

The only easy way for that would be to have a strong 1st AoE sync

[left storm]

What's the other elite

4?

[verbal karma]

sadly, Brendan's syncs aren't exactly strong

[halcyon sail]

His is pretty good all things considered, but won't do it because it's non ex

[left storm]

What's your other elite 4 option

[verbal karma]

?

wdym

[halcyon sail]

Inertia + 500 atk stat is nice after all

[left storm]

He'd need grassy terrain

Or seun

Or both

Rather than straight cd

Or running a fast spdef debuffer

[halcyon sail]

For sure

[left storm]

Sync cd strats work if your unit can pull his own weight

Not in budget clears

[mellow linden]

You aren’t pre-Syncing Bruno on a half-Sync round

Straight up

Not if you also wanna on-type, which I’m 90% sure you do

[steel kelp]

What do they even have left

[mellow linden]

They have SS Acerola, SS Erika, and Victor, iirc

Which I guess maybe those 3 could pull off the Bruno pre-Sync? Idk

[steel kelp]

Probably?

[mellow linden]

But it’s definitely not happening with a Sun-less, Terrain-less Brendan

[left storm]

SS ace + SS Erika can 100% kill Bruno presync

[steel kelp]

I did Bertha r3 with mix red hilbert and SS erika

[mellow linden]

I tried a more “normal” team a couple times before saying “screw it, triple Support” and running Dawn + Hilbert + BP Morty

But I also ran post-Sync params

[verbal karma]

I...actually already used SS Acerola on R2 Bertha

[mellow linden]

Then pre-Sync is very unlikely against Bruno

Maybe impossible

[verbal karma]

hrrrmmm...if post-sync already didn't work for me back in 2.5k territory, how am I supposed to get post-sync to work in 3k territory?

[steel kelp]

Why are you so focused on Bruno

[verbal karma]

I mean...you think R3 Lorelei would be a better pick?

[mellow linden]

…Yeah, probably

[verbal karma]

...alright, R3 Lorelei it is then

[mellow linden]

Still probably have to post-Sync

But at least Lorelei doesn’t have Dire Hit

[verbal karma]

oh, don't worry, I was gonna poison stall Lorelei anyway

[mellow linden]

If you have BP Morty I’d suggest him over Hop since Lorelei uses mixed damage

[verbal karma]

ah

[nocturne pawn]

i off typed lorelei using rain

before realizing she has surf and aqua tail

very awkward

[verbal karma]

...wait, aside from the innate grass-type buff, how does Victor benefit from Grassy Terrain? I only see Turbo Turf and Verdant Recovery, both of which Victor can't access at 1/5

(asking for R4 Bruno now)

[mellow linden]

It’s exactly the damage boost

It’s a +50% damage boost that is multiplicative with passives like CS2, Ramming Speed, Haymaker, etc.

[pure haven]

Half sync on r3

Who should I avoid?

Bertha?

[undone ether]

I'd avoid Bruno.

😭

[pure haven]

I see

[verbal karma]

...BP Clemont might have not been the best choice for this

but sadly, he's the only support who can debuff Defense reliably

...unless BP Bugsy is somehow better?

[pure haven]

Man idk what to build for special stadium, been a while since I last played

Can I send my roaster for some help?

[verbal karma]

Or maybe something is wrong with my parameters again

I honestly can't tell anymore...but I do know that BP Clemont dies in only 3 hits...if not even sooner

[mellow linden]

Do you have Sonia?

Or you could probably just ignore the Defense debuffs

[wide adder]

sooo, was trying to offtype halfsync lorelei or whatever in the pasio cs...

is there a reason why 1/5 lucas 3/5exr zerena 3/5 ssbrendan should be failing this?

nvm, ended up clearing it after fiddling with params some more and changing to rejuv grid instead of max dmg grid

[cold tusk]

what unit is champion serena built around? adaman?

[wide adder]

champ serena fight came out before adaman

this is a rerun

[cold tusk]

sht i forgot what i used last time

[undone ether]

Champion Serena loves to buff her speed and drop your sp.atk ;o

[wide adder]

prob was themed around victor

if had to guess

[cold tusk]

hmm adaman it is

[undone ether]

I used Victor and SS Lyra

to deny her moves. because despite -3 speed, she still hits hard.

[wide adder]

im just offtyping most of this cs, using geeta on champ fight

[cold tusk]

is grass bertha super bulky?

[pure haven]

Will something like this work for the cs?

[wide adder]

...oh, apparently i used geeta vs bertha

oh right, ssgladion's open

still free fight

[cold tusk]

fk selene is sht

gonna offtype this sht

[wide adder]

I feel bad for reflecting -3 x6 onto Serena.

She hit like a wet noodle due to that.

(and dont mind it being fighting zone, i was a doofus and used the fairy wish BEFORE cynthias sync and i still almost ohkod her with bmove)

Having it be a rerun actually made it pretty chill tbh

[verbal karma]

...I actually do!
you think she can tank better than BP Clemont?

...wait, shoot, I forgot

Sonia doesn't have Adrenaline while BP Clemont does

[cold tusk]

serena with 3 grass debuff

gogoat suprisingly tanky

[rotund lagoon]

Uhhhh didn’t I say to save Victor for R5? Cause if you’re using Victor now, you need a Speed debuffer for R5

[manic kiln]

12 hours later and you’re still at round 3
To presync half sync round you usually need dps with strong moves/b-moves. I don’t recommend strong nuke unless it’s super fast to max stats/multipliers in like 2 turns. It’s better to use support sync to boost their dmg. Then add wtz, rebuff, SE next, SM/PMUN, debuff if you can, the more the better. Can also use double dps if 1 is not enough, but you need a support who can enable double dps comp like acerola but you already used her
Don’t try to squeeze 2 syncs in half-sync round or you’ll end up using deadweight like sselesa or weird comp with no synergies, you need to kill mid in a few turns after your first sync
I think you need to use sserika for this round, or use another dps with victor

[rotund lagoon]

I stick with the SS Erika option, I legit do not get why you have not tried her.

[manic kiln]

Yeah save victor for r5, many already mentioned

[rotund lagoon]

Also who, by the way, has sync accel, even if it’s not fully guaranteed, it’s still there.

[north crown]

Average Trin moment:

[manic kiln]

Pretty sure she can wipe mid with 2-3 solar blade, don’t even need her to sync, support sync 1st then later erika sync to deny the sides

[swift swan]

I'm pretty sure i've tried ss erika on bertha half sync before. Decimates the stage

[rotund lagoon]

My biggest guess is he used SS Ace for Bertha, but I’m not sure

It’s just a deduction, he hasn’t told us which E4 he beat specifically

[toxic cobalt]

To think I crafted a clear that shows the exact answer to this question

[sick inlet]

||I must look like a madman with this clear, squeezing 2 syncs too ||

[sick inlet]

SS Erika is truly brutal. I used her vs Lorelei. After taking out mid, she literally wiped sides in 1 hit each - Full HP
I believe she would work anywhere just fine

[lean lion]

Decimated R3 Lorelei with Geeta. Easy presync. But I couldn't get 2 syncs in, even with HS1 Redlax.

[toxic cobalt]

I love it, Ramos supremacy

[civic crater]

Can NC Marnie off type 2.5-3k at 3/5?

[low linden]

Easily

[civic crater]

Does she need specific comps? Like do I need dark zone?

[low linden]

Nope but if u want to speed things up go ahead with dark zone

[civic crater]

I don’t have it unfortunately lol

[toxic cobalt]

She sort of just destroys things

I guess give her a speed booster?

[civic crater]

Yeah she’s only like +4 herself right

[toxic cobalt]

I forgot she did that too

[low linden]

Think u really only need a support ex sync

Maybe a 2nd dps if u want

[toxic cobalt]

I don't even think you need a support ex sync

[low linden]

[civic crater]

So just go in with like EX Rosa and some rando 1 gauge spammer and I can probably reasonably get it?

Is this pre sync or post sync? Post presumably without dark zone

[toxic cobalt]

I would pre sync

[civic crater]

She can pre sync off type?

[toxic cobalt]

Like usually I say add a sleeper, but NC Marnie also does that herself

[civic crater]

That’s nifty

[toxic cobalt]

She's a massively powerful unit

[civic crater]

Wait she can sleep??

[toxic cobalt]

Back in the old days Cyrus could presync offtype

She flinches

[civic crater]

Oh yeah duh lol

[nocturne pawn]

nc marnie is like bringing a missile launcher to a knife fight

[civic crater]

Good I’m glad I used my gems on something that’s aging reasonably well

I have a 1/5 NC Red too but at 1/5 he doesn’t feel quite as ridiculous as Marnie. I’m probably using him wrong

[toxic cobalt]

Guaranteed freeze Red? Also broken.

[nocturne pawn]

and a built in sync multiplier

albeit its kinda hard to really stack cuz uh 10 smun isnt exactly the easiest

at least they’re releasing more strikes with built in multipliers

sc adaman and irida are prime examples

[toxic cobalt]

Strikes slowly becoming techs

[nocturne pawn]

also true lmao

nc silver definitely couldve been tech and no one wouldve cared

(aside from the fact that tech candies are absurdly high in demand)

[undone ether]

Tech Cake to alleviate that.

D:

Hopefully.

._.

[civic crater]

What does strength +6 actually do

[lean lion]

Are there any pairs who can max out SC Irida's evasiveness? I have none in my box

[civic crater]

Does it not make them bulkier or anything?

[toxic cobalt]

Consider it equivalent to adding 60 levels

[lean lion]

You can click the little + sign on the top right corner to read a detailed description

[toxic cobalt]

SC Irida?

[lean lion]

Yeah

Her tm gives +4

[nocturne pawn]

bp janine

but like

[toxic cobalt]

Normal Koga too.

[nocturne pawn]

thats for self only iirc

but like

[toxic cobalt]

nope!

[nocturne pawn]

sc irida doesnt need maxed blind spot to explode shit

448 spatk before ex and other shit is very high

[toxic cobalt]

Surely if she only needs +2 more anyone who gives evasion will be able to do it!

[old orchid]

BP Janine gives remaining +2 spatk, +2 eva and +1 crit with Team Sharp Entry 1 gridded

[nocturne pawn]

oh koga does have slippery sidekicks

…on x speed

[lean lion]

I've been saving a voucher. Time to get bp Janine i suppose

But I'm still on the fence about SC Irida, given that there will be a cheaper banner sooner or later

[nocturne pawn]

shes by far the best ghost dps

and she has solid synergy with her zone setter cuz she stacks MP

although ssrc is

kinda washed atp

but shes 2 years old so it cant be helped

[old orchid]

SC selects tend to be at least over 1 year later after the debut

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

[old orchid]

And the normal and paid tiered banners usually return after around 1 year

Detective SC set was released in last April

[civic crater]

I’ve got Lodge Lillie EX’d is it reasonable to pre sync Bruno 3k on type with that or no

If I have a secondary damage dealer

[toxic cobalt]

why do you even need a secondary damage dealer?

[civic crater]

Because I have no clue what kind of damage output the unit has lol

It worked in a very specialized build for the Hau EBE otherwise I wouldn’t have it

[toxic cobalt]

I think you'll find the difference between the Hau EBE and Johto CS to be light years

[civic crater]

Ok so I should be fine even at 3k lol

[toxic cobalt]

yep

[civic crater]

When I stopped playing there was no point going above 1.5k and that was rough a lot of weeks

[toxic cobalt]

Just have to work on your technique then

Figure out optimal move orders, how to use disruption, how to quadqueue

[lean lion]

Cerena vs Serena with infinite rain and flinches from Winona. Good idea or pointless suffering?

[swift swan]

Just have good luck on flinches

Don't get water shuriken'd

Be careful with ramming speed (she has fast track 4)

Sync ASAP

[north crown]

Offtype CSerena shouldn't be your only option

[rotund maple]

whew, got thru will with the suggested toxic stall of a bunch of level 100s, thats 3 less pairs i need to bring up to 120 🙂

progress resets at the end of the week right?

[sick inlet]

One water shuriken from Serena solos one of your units in rain

[sick inlet]

The not event CS, yes, resets every monday

[swift swan]

Oh yea absolutely lol

[lean lion]

Oh I've already cleared it. Just looking to do some different clears.

Gonna try let's see how it goes.

[lean lion]

It was taking out like 60% health without rain so yeah definitely a one move KO

[lean lion]

Running without a support, triple tech (Serena Winona). This might work....was able to KO mid presync just gotta sleep/flinch sides properly

[sick inlet]

You probably have to eat hits from mid

Because mid attacks always

If you flinch her

Side moves

But if you flinch side, they queue a tm

[lean lion]

With half hp param!!

Had to eat one surf cause Air Slashed wrong side

[swift swan]

Half hp is so good if you're gonna deny moves anyway

I almost always take it nowadays

[north crown]

me using 1 CSMM 3k options preset a month in the 3k expansion:

[toxic cobalt]

If I took half HP my tanks would just die

[sharp willow]

Yeah im taking full offense to start, half hp is both unnecessary with that and also way more likely to result in my untimely demise

[verbal karma]

No

I am at Round 4 now

I moved Bruno to Round 4

[keen jasper]

Who did you do R3 then?

[verbal karma]

Lorelei

[keen jasper]

I remember once I did 4k pts. on Bertha with half sync parameter

[woeful wolf]

Heres everything up set up but i still cant beat Grimsly. And i been using multiple teams

[north crown]

CS options are useless unless we know the team

[toxic cobalt]

Take special damage reduction too. Don't take defence parameters. Don't take Strike and Tech sync pair damage. Take Standard damage reduction assuming you are ontyping.

for some default layouts

[woeful wolf]

Thinking maybe this team? Been trying to save my best grass units for Serena.

Also been trying to get as many points possible for rewards

[toxic cobalt]

You only need one grass unit for Serena

[silver dirge]

That team is a powerhouse though, your issue is too much HP + Strength + Defense

Pick up both Power On Hit nodes

[woeful wolf]

Ok

[silver dirge]

Emma is guaranteed crit, Geeta is self sufficient, you can afford Half Ally MP

If you aim to pre-sync, you can take Sync Buff 5

See if your team can handle some Attack parameters as well

Drop all defense outside of Def 1, and try and reduce HP as much as possible

[woeful wolf]

Ok

[toxic cobalt]

Sonia can handle it

[woeful wolf]

Well the poison stall build didn’t help 🙃

[north crown]

wtf? why u trying to poison stall?!

[woeful wolf]

I figured the damage over time would add up with the damage I would do. But I guess i was wrong lol

[silver dirge]

Don't go for poison stall, you can go for a damage oriented run with that team

Did you adjust the parameters?

[woeful wolf]

Doing that now

I think either the off type 0re/post sync build work fine. At least from my understanding of read the chart

[toxic cobalt]

Poison stall has its own build.

You can't really combine with damage

[trail smelt]

You have to go all in on either stalling or attacking the enemy.

You can’t attempt both at the same time

[woeful wolf]

Ok finished the stadium. Thanks fellas

[verbal karma]

...okay, maybe I am doing something wrong with parameters again

Are those actually good parameters for R4 Bruno or nah?

My main concern is that Clemont takes too much damage (and that one Bulldoze can insta-kill my Eggmon Leafeon)

[toxic cobalt]

That appears to be quite standard parameters, they're roughly what I use

[verbal karma]

Oh...damn...

BP Clemont takes too much damage, tho

[lean lion]

Stomping Tantrum, Bulldoze and EQ are super effective against Clemont

[verbal karma]

Even Gyro Ball deals more than 50% damage

Luckily, though, I was able to get a lucky run now

R4 Bruno is beaten and I can still use SS Erika for R5

[lean lion]

Nice

[verbal karma]

It's all coming together now

...or maybe not...Lyra is taking too much damage from everything

She can't survive long enough to even do one sync 😦

[formal vigil]

What are the other team members?

[main crow]

Are you facing Bertha?

[lean lion]

They're fighting Serena

[main crow]

Ah aight

[lean lion]

Her no quarter ramming speed water shurikens hit hard. Might wanna bring a spd debuffer or reset for better move RNG

[verbal karma]

Oh...a speed debuffer, got it

[silver dirge]

That's why Annie was telling you to save Victor for R5

The stage is designed for him

[verbal karma]

Oh, even with speed debuffs, Water Shuriken is STILL an instakill

[formal vigil]

Are you using light screen? If so probably better to use a better tank

[verbal karma]

I replaced Lyra with Lodge Elesa

[formal vigil]

Who are your other 2 members?

[verbal karma]

SS Erika and Brendan

[lean lion]

And what round param are you using?

Infinite field effects?

[verbal karma]

Yes

[formal vigil]

Who is exed out of ss erika and brendan?

[verbal karma]

SS Erika

[formal vigil]

Might be worth trying ss erika lyra and Lodge elesa with lyra main tank

If lyra still just dies might be worth replacing her with nc rosa or ssa Cynthia if you still have them unused

[verbal karma]

I actually do have them unused, so thanks for the suggest

[sterile sequoia]

recommendations to beat Lance? I think I get 6k paid gems for this too

would be a massive deal of help

[silver dirge]

This is hard mode yes?

You can go Sycamore + Cyrus + May

Will need to level them up to around 120

And make sure Critical Focus 2 is gridded on Cyrus, Sycamore takes 1st sync

[keen jasper]

Man, Karen gave me a lot of trouble, mainly because I'm using NC Rosa who's weak to flying and Karen keeps on getting damn lucky with Posthaste 2 that Diantha didn't have a single Cakewalk multiplier

[toxic cobalt]

Sigh Gardenia needs improvement

[mellow linden]

Funnily enough, Gardenia managed to pre-Sync Round 2 Bertha (SS Morty and MC + Support Sprigatito as teammates) using post-Sync parameters base 3k

But yeah, more buffs for her would be nice

[rotund kestrel]

Good team suggestions for champion stadium?

I haven't beat it yet

[left storm]

I heavily recommended grabbing Riley copies from his event

As it won't last forever

[rotund kestrel]

Yes I am out of stamina rn

[left storm]

Then, start working on investing in units in general: you'll want most units to be at 120 at least

Stadium is pretty easy in normal mode, you should do fine with any team of 3 with a super effective damage dealer at 120-125

Once you'll unlock hard mode by using all types in a single stadium, you'll have a developed roster for the real challenge

[rotund kestrel]

Ok

So I get all 5 stars to around 120

Then clear normal stage

[silver dirge]

Nah, form teams first, and level up the units you're going to use

[left storm]

Start from the ones you can get copies of or you already have at more than a copy

Ofc I'm not saying to powerup all of them immediately

But ideally almost every unit works really well

If supported accordingly

So focus on using supports you already invested into + a super effective damage dealer for every stadium type ideally

[mellow linden]

Don’t ignore your 3- and 4-stars, they generally range from decent to amazing.

Also try and get 5 unique teams (as in, no 2 teams share a Sync Pair) to level 120 rather than just leveling anyone and everyone willy-nilly

Ideally having 9-12 types (as in, the type of the Sync Move) across the 5 teams

[steel kelp]

Isn’t there a command for that

[rotund kestrel]

Hmm

[rotund kestrel]

I just read this, but I just levels up needed ones for now and beat it

[silver dirge]

Nicely done

[rotund kestrel]

I didnit think that duralodon would just solo

Here are the teams, I have only leveled up these extra units

[undone jay]

I would like to attempt 3k but I am having some difficulty. Can someone help me attempt it?

[rotund lagoon]

Have you built teams for it first?

[undone jay]

tried to. Let me look again

I don't really know how to

cuz

[silver dirge]

You may want to give 2-2.5k a shot first before you get to 3k, it's a bit of a jump in difficulty and it helps to get a feel of the parameters & what they do. There's a teambuilding guide in #1010307000346878062 for reference, if you'd like to get some feedback on your teams feel free to post em here

[undone jay]

well my starte=ing out was 1.5k

I want to attempt 3k, cause well

whats the harm lol? just a phone game

so if I have 3/5ssgladion and sycamoreEX

who would be a good 3rd person? this is for bruno

[silver dirge]

Gladion will obliterate that stage, do you have any source of Fairy Zone?

[rotund lagoon]

Then what’s the harm of trying lower points by that logic? :)

[rotund maple]

Whew, got to Lance now, have xerneas, palkia, and mudkip team left, palkia at lv 115 can't seem to do enough damage? Think lv 125 should see a big increase? Or focus on sync grid?

Hard mode 1 btw

[undone jay]

I don't believe I have a source of fairy zone

who has it? penny?

[silver dirge]

SS Hau, SS Wally, Egg Sylveon, SS Mina

But that's fine, he doesn't need it

You can do SS Gladion + tank + SpAtk debuffer

[undone jay]

does sycamore work? ex?

as support?

[silver dirge]

He does, yeah. Just consider if you'll need his help in another team, but otherwise it's fine. You can sync with Sycamore for the support EX, then nuke the stage with Gladion's BMove

Your 3rd can just be any SpA debuffer for Gladion's multipliers

[undone jay]

I could choose another support ex

umm

[silver dirge]

What are the options?

[undone jay]

yea I have 5

aaron

ssblue

ssacynth

and ssbrendan

oh and sycamore

[silver dirge]

Ah, you can spare one of them then. SS Blue or Cynthia you can use here

There's a sample set for 2.5k in the pins, look for the 'on-type pre-sync' option, and make sure you adjust it to your team (Don't pick up Special DR or Standard DR, etc). For 3k just add some attack, strength or HP depending on how you fair

[left storm]

A fully setupped Gladion should kill the stage in barely more than a sync anyway at 1/5

[silver dirge]

indeed

[rotund lagoon]

Example (this is with zone, but even without, it’s still big) #1073655215363985498 message

[keen jasper]

You know, ever since the existence of half sync CD parameter, I've really started to value parameters like -1 and -2 sync CD and half HP

And wow, 1/5 Adaman just destroyed Serena by himself even if my support died

[left storm]

Lowering cd and team hp goes such a long way when struggling with points

[noble plaza]

I keep getting so close to beating Bruno with Hop, BP Mawile and Mina

But when I beat Gallade the sides mess me up

[hidden monolith]

Wouldn't it be a waste to use SSA with SS Gladion? he can already finish the stage so quickly

My 2/5 SS Gladion hits like a truck so 3/5 is a lot better for sure

[left storm]

Try saving a SEUP denial on left side

[silver dirge]

Not if SSA Cynthia isn't going to see use elsewhere

I suggested her because she's not an offensive buffing support, which may be needed in other rounds

[rotund maple]

Yay, ty everyone for your help, finally unlocked battle rally 😊

[silver dirge]

Nicely done!

[sterile sequoia]

thanks so much, much love 🙏🙏

[civic crater]

For these quick sync stages what’s the best way to tackle 3k? Toxic stall?

Or does that favor the player more than the NPCs

[crisp quest]

How should I go about off typing 4k Koga

He’s the only one left for me to plan out

[paper summit]

fat HP and crit shield are the notable things I think, and some chance for him to poison you but it's single target only

[civic crater]

Is Bertha supposed to hit like a Mack truck

Is there a gimmick I’m missing lol

[paper summit]

are you overriding sand with another weather?

[civic crater]

Yeah I used Sun

[paper summit]

then it might be parameters

she hits hard as is so giving too much offense is gonna hurt

[civic crater]

Is Sinnoh a lot tougher than the others

[paper summit]

yes

Sinnoh, Kalos and Hoenn are on the high end of difficulty

[civic crater]

I might need some guidance on this here in a few

I’m on the quick nuke stage and my best remaining grass type Nuker is Brendan but maxing him quickly enough to have a good nuke immediately is not seeming reasonable

Quick sync*

I used SS Morty to support SS Erika which I guess was a bad idea looking back

[crisp quest]

I meant like team comp wise

Because I’m not sure if he can be pre sync’d, which means I have to deal with crit shield/sync

[civic crater]

Help me understand how that was considerably easier off type with NC Marnie than on type with Brendan lmao

[rich needle]

Because Marnie is way stronger?

[civic crater]

Can SS Serena reasonably off type too?

[old orchid]

Yes

[lunar meadow]

Which one?

Also, yes.

Greninja-Blue and Zygarde are both fine for off-typing CSMM

[nocturne pawn]

wdym which one theres only one

[silver dirge]

You got the rats? Could always throw them at him

[noble plaza]

Any particular order for the special cs?

[civic crater]

I cheesed Serena with toxic stalling feels kinda bad lol

[noble plaza]

Or anyone I should do or avoid on a certain round (like R3)?

[lean lion]

Don't do Bruno or Grimsley on R3. Do Bertha R2 for perma field effect. Use your 2nd best team/damage dealer on R3.

[noble plaza]

[lean lion]

Hey sorry I meant Grimsley not Lorelei edited it

[crisp quest]

Can they pre sync it or do I have to stall out crit shield

Also for clarification, do you mean all 3 rats or just red and ash

[silver dirge]

They should be able to presync it

Red Ash NC Blue would be ideal

[crisp quest]

Blue was already used

[silver dirge]

Hmm I think you can still kill him but the loss of rebuff might hurt

[crisp quest]

Who would you reckon as a substitute support

[silver dirge]

You don't have Chase yea?

Try someone Kanto

[crisp quest]

I do have him

He’s just 1/5

[crisp quest]

That’s why I was asking this earlier

[silver dirge]

Ah

That'll work then

You can almost replicate the rebuffs

[grand trout]

Oh flying koga

I wonder if i can get skyla in time..

[crisp quest]

@silver dirge one more thing lmao, I don’t know what parameters

Cuz I can’t take the damage reductions, half HP makes me think Chase will die too early

[silver dirge]

He should be fine with a nice rotation, half HP is kinda necessary there for 200 pts

@crisp quest I tried it, can work, but you need Cake'd chase

[crisp quest]

Guess who doesn’t have that

[silver dirge]

Try making Ash the tank and proc Pinch Push 3 then

And use those for a BMove nuke

[tulip python]

Man nothing like NC stadium to make you realize you don’t have as many grass pairs as you thought

[magic kayak]

Can I get some help with building some teams for this event champion stadium, https://imgur.com/a/vlQvVgb im not sure i have the units necessary in order to clear it

[left storm]

Sleeping or flinching is the only way to not get bent by crit shield + his aggressive defensive buffs

[swift swan]

+tracker next time please use the sync pair tracker so you don't have to send multiple screenshots. let me see what I can do

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[swift swan]

SS Erika, Brendan, Selene (evolve her) can all be in separate teams. Heck, Sycamore's Horn Leech DPS does wonders. SS Acerola can be on Selene's team

you can offtype the other two stages. I see some good strong pairs that can offtype like NC Marnie, Geeta, NC Silver, SS Gladion

check the pins to read the gimmicks and stats of each E4 stage. save the strongest team (or whatever team you're comfortable with) to go against Champion Serena because her stage is the hardest

[dreamy sigil]

Which stages of grass cs hard mode are easy to off type

Asking for a friend

[keen jasper]

All of them except Bertha

[dreamy sigil]

Ty

[noble plaza]

I'm having trouble poison stalling R3 Loreli with Lucy, Janine, and Skyla/Sycamore

[rotund lagoon]

What happens?

Oh and I’m assuming this is the Grass CS, right?

[rotund maple]

Is the grass CS hard mode harder than hard mode 1 for Johto perchance?

[rotund lagoon]

Some matches may be harder than others, but that depends on the E4. The stages themselves are the same as they are in their normal CS regions
Serena is the only special one

[rotund maple]

ah ic ic, thats good to know, ty

[noble plaza]

Yeah.
Eventually I get ko'd by lapras by sync or surf

I've been trying BP Morty but it's still a struggle

[rotund lagoon]

Are you using the Poison Stall parameters?

Oh and if you’re doing 3k…Poison stall is a very hard feat.

[noble plaza]

Oh really? I actually didn't know that

[rotund lagoon]

2.5k should be easy enough tho :P

[nocturne pawn]

i have done poison stall 3k before but its very unfun

[rich needle]

3k is easy it just requires the right units

[carmine sinew]

For the special CS, should I on-type with any of my grass units (besides mix Red) or would it be easier to just off-type with SSTR/SSGlad/Geeta/NCSilver/Steven? In testing, I obliterated 1.5k with Gladion so I'm guessing I can handle 2k, possibly 2.5k.

[steel kelp]

SS erika can handle it fine

[toxic cobalt]

Ease might be similar. You can handle it!

[carmine sinew]

I'll give Erika a shot, does she need grassy terrain too? I was considering picking up SS Acerola but didn't have any physical grass units I was using so I wasn't sold yet

[toxic cobalt]

Noone needs Grassy Terrain

[nocturne pawn]

it requires a lot of rng

[dim depot]

Man I've been at it round 1 with Lorelei for like 2 hours. Been trying to win with Lodge Gloria and I can't make it. Just the worst defenses

[toxic cobalt]

What team?

[dim depot]

SSLeaf, Bugsy/Scyther, Lodge Gloria

Every time is so close. But Surf is a lose condition so it's a loooot of resets

[toxic cobalt]

Why SSL?

[dim depot]

Poison is recommended

I had Elio support instead but it really hasn't been much better

[toxic cobalt]

Elio sounds much better

You can really get leers in

[dim depot]

But Sundering ability

[toxic cobalt]

what do you mean?

oh Leaf. Sundering is nothing compared to extra turns

[dim depot]

Which she also gives with mega evolution and tm

[toxic cobalt]

Up to you

[dim depot]

Barely made it! Man, they hit hard but just so glassy

[dense birch]

hello, wanted to get some help with Grass CS. haven't really had time to come up with teams, so far i've only tried R1 Grimsley, but he basically one shot my SS Steven with Brutal Swing lol. here's what i got:

am aiming for 2.5k per round, but happy to drop to 1.5k or 2k if it's too difficult

I can EX 4 units if required

[swift swan]

Oneshot SS Steven with brutal swing? Was tech x3 damage on?

SS Erika can ontype well even at 2/5. Horn Leech sycamore is pretty good too

#1011675077764456519 message you can try replicating teams 1 and 2 here (and replace the supports with some of your better ones if you'd like)

[dense birch]

Nice i will check it out

[dense birch]

It wasn’t on i don’t think. But it felt like it just hit really hard. I tried Leaf/Eevee and it died to like one liquidation

[swift swan]

Hmmm liquidation does hit hard yeah

I guess you can use a tank who can also sleep/flinch for more survivability

BP morty, melony, elio. SS Steven should decimate the stage fast enough

[lean lion]

R1 Bruno: Hop + Dawn + Lucian

R2 Bertha: Sonia + SS Erika + Blaine

R3 Lorelei: BP Morty + SST Red + Flex (spd/def debuffer/additional sustain if needed)

R4 Grimsley: SS Gladion + Sycamore + Flex (egg sylveon, sp atk/sp def debuffer)

R5 Serena: NC Rosa + SS Steven + Bianca for terrain/spd debuffer

You could do these. Pretty sure these will work for 3k.

[left storm]

I recommend stalling lorelei

She takes a gazillion hp from toxic

[lean lion]

3/5 Sst Red should be able to handle her no?

Oh so stall is just easier against Lorelei

[dense birch]

Tank dawn?

[lean lion]

Dps/sync nuker Dawn

[dense birch]

Which one is that? Torterra or Wormadam?

[lean lion]

Oh sorry

Tank

Dawn Torterra

[dense birch]

Oh

[lean lion]

Yours is 5/5 too. Should do pretty well.

[dense birch]

Hmmm yeah i can get mine to lv140 too

[lean lion]

Abundance from grass HSE? haha same got her to 140

[dense birch]

I’ll have a look around tomorrow and see what i can use. Auroch f2p clears also seems good

[toxic cobalt]

You can do even better!

[dense birch]

I got her to 3/5 pretty early on, and i was thinking i would get anyone at 3/5 to lv140 and be a candidate for EX haha

[toxic cobalt]

A reminder to switch teams 1 and 2. Don't copy my mistakes!

[dense birch]

Ye i saw the msg. Sycamore solo seems cool

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore solo is a personal taste

Dawn is great btw. Funny to see a support nuke like that.

[dense birch]

I was actually considering EX-ing her and using her as my grass dps for grass weak stuff in general

[toxic cobalt]

Well she's a support so her EX is great by default

[dense birch]

Would be cool to see her get strike EXR in the future

[toxic cobalt]

Strike tech and field would all be good

[left storm]

Tech would be great in general

Strike for her DPS mostly

Field would help sustain

Just don't give her sprint lol

[dreamy sigil]

Base dawn?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes

[dreamy sigil]

Hm, neat ig

I have her 4/5 iirc

[warped jungle]

Yo, so I drop all units I got?

[lean lion]

are you looking to clear CS hard mode?

[warped jungle]

Yes

The one where u select debuffs

Wait I think it's called master mode

[lean lion]

you can either send screenshots of your roster or fill in this tracker if you have time, just make sure to sort by role if youre sending screenshots

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[warped jungle]

Okay

[warped jungle]

I'll just send the SS, it looks like it'll take a while to do this

[silver dirge]

Make sure you sort it by role so it's easier to navigate between them

[warped jungle]

okay

there you go, sorted by role

[swift swan]

First time doing master mode?

[warped jungle]

I tried doing it self a few times but the best I could do was get the opponents HP to just below 50%.
Tried fire one 4-5 times coz I thought I had a decent team but didnt work. I used SSRed, SSMorty, SSBlue EX. I synced with SSRed first to get mega char. Then tried sync with SSBlue but forgot sturdy doesnt protect againt sync

[swift swan]

Is this for regular CS or the grass one?

[warped jungle]

Yes

[warped jungle]

The regular one

[swift swan]

What parameters were you running? Ss morty and ss red should work just fine. You don't need ss blue there

[warped jungle]

Somehow Blastoise was at 70-80% hp even thouhg he was the primary tank

[warped jungle]

Gimme a sec

[swift swan]

What move level is your ss red? I can't find him

[lean lion]

5/5

[warped jungle]

5/5

[topaz coral]

Please help me with building teams for them

I only have Karen and Lance left for the hard mode stadium

[mellow linden]

The 50-point Damage Reduction parameters are ignored by critical hits, you should be running both for a free 100 points total

[warped jungle]

I tried no wether too, used skyla instead of morty, didnt work either

[swift swan]

Pick up the special dmg reduction shield. It's free 50 pts and it's ignored by crits anyway, which you should always be doing

[topaz coral]

Oh yes both reds are used nc calem and Serena used the f2p sycamore is used korrina Riley and Sonia are used and Giovanni is used

[warped jungle]

okay

[lean lion]

parameters look okay. but there are presets for different point totals in the pins. If this is your very first time clearing i recommend starting off at a lower point total and working your way up

[swift swan]

There's nothing wrong with the params itself. Do you triple queue consistently?

[warped jungle]

Yeah

[mellow linden]

Can build a team around:

• Gladion for Karen.
• NC Serena for Lance.

And be fine

[warped jungle]

I think I got to syncs Before dying

[topaz coral]

NC Serena has been used sadly

[warped jungle]

Opponent's sync one shots everything

[topaz coral]

This

[warped jungle]

Other than Blastoise

[mellow linden]

May against Lance then

[swift swan]

You're not supposed to let them sync with the params you're running, yes

[topaz coral]

Any recommended supports

[swift swan]

And a 5/5 SS Red should decimate Koga. What's his grid?

[topaz coral]

Also may can evolve right

[mellow linden]

Follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines in #1010307000346878062

[warped jungle]

Gimme a sec

[mellow linden]

Yeah, evolve her pokemon to Swampert for sure

[topaz coral]

Are the evolution story's locked behind lounge frienship

[warped jungle]

I used these.

[mellow linden]

No

[topaz coral]

Alr thank you for the help

Also what levels should they be cuz I don't have too many resources rn

[mellow linden]

120 would be best, it’s cheap and should be sufficient

[topaz coral]

K thank you very much

[warped jungle]

I just realised that red got 5/5 expansion... SHould I change the grids?

[swift swan]

Yes

[warped jungle]

The grid presets I use are from a long time ago when i just started

[swift swan]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1/600?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGBknKSwuLzA sth like this for 5/5

[warped jungle]

Okay, will do. Should try the same debuffs or change somethings? I copied then from the pinned messages

[swift swan]

Is he at max attack?

Your params look fine

[warped jungle]

wdym by max attack?

[swift swan]

Max attack stat

For haymaker

Your params look fine. Morty has enough survivability. Replace Blue with a faster attack buffer to help Red setup haymaker

[lean lion]

They said SSBlue was on the team but not sure whether Blue is tanking

[warped jungle]

Depends, sometimes it's +4

Yeah, blue is tanking

[swift swan]

Blue's too slow and unreliable at it

Red wants both sp atk and atk buffs. Sp atk bcs his sync is special, atk bcs of haymaker

[warped jungle]

Yeah, need a better atk buffer I guess

[swift swan]

Get someone who can do it for him quickly

Lyra is my pick

Her buffs are quick under sun

[warped jungle]

What type?

[swift swan]

Lyra and Meganium

[warped jungle]

Ah okay