Champion Stadium

[verbal karma]

FINALLY done with R4 Phoebe

[austere oyster]

Took several attempts to get it just right but Phoebe is down! Just Wallace left now!

[verbal karma]

man, Wallace was easy in comparison

[mellow linden]

Psychic weak stages do be like that

[north crown]

Oml

[verbal karma]

what was last week's Steven again?

Ground-weak?

[north crown]

Yeh

Why u ask?

[austere oyster]

First Hard Mode CS completion is in the books! That Tentacruel hit like a truck but Mewtwo hit him with a 15k crit sync. 😂😂

[manic kiln]

Riley is a great addition to f2p fighting team, easy presync and speed buffs also help Bea + gauge

this week is easy overall, i guess only Phoebe is tricky for some players

[north crown]

I hope you are aware of the regional type medal

[austere oyster]

You mean the one with a blank for each type?

[verbal karma]

oh, just part of my notes, that's all

[mellow linden]

Not a big deal right now, but do keep in mind going into Johto CS next week that you’ll need to complete the type medal across a minimum (and ideal) of 2 weeks for every region to unlock Master Mode for that region

[austere oyster]

I still feel like I’m a good ways away from being ready for that. I got lucky with type advantages this week and still feel like I won by the skin of my teeth. If my luck would stop sucking and I start building more pairs, maybe I can start doing more with Master Mode.

[mellow linden]

Even if you don’t plan to go for high point values it’s still good to try and unlock it

850 points per stage nets you all the most important rewards with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode

[manic kiln]

Fun team, but Korrina’s CC damage is pathetic compared to Riley’s

[mellow linden]

Makes sense, Korrina has like no modifiers for it

[manic kiln]

Yeah, also I didn’t mega, but she’s still bad

[swift swan]

rip korrina

[austere oyster]

Are those more gold ticket vouchers and Champions Spirit?

[mellow linden]

Among other things like a candy coin

[austere oyster]

lol I still haven’t managed to afford even one 5-star move candy or roll cake. 😂

[mellow linden]

That’s normal for newer players, even for veteran players it still takes ~1.5-2 months to get 1 candy from coins

[manic mica]

Is there any Flying pair sync that can nuke easily on pre-sync?

so far, I've been using Lugia but idk if there are better ones

[mellow linden]

For current options we have Blue + Pidgeot at 3/5, Lodge Serena, Darach at like 2/5+, and Kahili

[north crown]

did you ask for crimson's roster yet?

[mellow linden]

Well they already cleared CS this week

[north crown]

Lugia is fine for the most part.

[mellow linden]

So not much of a point rn

[mellow linden]

Lodge Skyla is also coming at the start of March

[manic mica]

hmm okay

[north crown]

I'd opt to spoonfeed teams, but idk if that's the play for a new CS player

[mellow linden]

I wouldn’t recommend it, they already cleared this week and it’s Johto next week

[swift swan]

wouldn't recommend spoonfeeding at all tbh

[mellow linden]

Better to give guidance in the right direction so they can improve their teambuilding skills in a less intense region

[manic mica]

in 2 weeks, i should have a good lugia team.

i like to take advantage of his master fair passive by adding good johto units

[swift swan]

lugia's got good DPS, pretty good sync at 3/5. you should be fine

oh, but Johto's flying-weak has an increased special defense stat

[manic mica]

oh ok

[steel kelp]

It’s johto

[swift swan]

mhm, it should be fine still

just don't be too surprised or disappointed if ethan's not hitting as hard as you'd expect

[manic mica]

in terms of CS, which regions are difficult to deal with? top 3-5 is fine by me

[swift swan]

Sinnoh Kalos Hoenn

[steel kelp]

Sinnoh and hoenn

Which we already passed

[manic mica]

oh okay, yea, this week was a lil difficult to deal with ghost phoebe.

Kalos, huh. interesting. oh i cant wait for reset lol

[swift swan]

next one's johto, so it's a breather

[steel kelp]

Can’t wait for next week

[manic mica]

oh, shoot, i just saw pasio CS incoming

[steel kelp]

Candies SS hilbert to 5

[exotic tinsel]

Managed to finish hard mode, should I be doing master mode this week?

[mellow linden]

No reason not to do so

Even if it’s just 850 per stage

[manic mica]

yea, it yields good rewards

[steel kelp]

I wanna blast already

[nocturne pawn]

sidney is being mean

[manic mica]

so far, hilbert is my strongest bug unit. I want to try my ninjask but he's 1/5 :/

[manic mica]

yea, his spe atk entry is annoying that almost one shotted my fairy units

[swift swan]

ss hilbert works fine

[lean lion]

How easy or difficult is Johto CS compared to Sinnoh/Hoenn?

[swift swan]

immensely easy

difficulty drop is unreal

[nocturne pawn]

johto is like the easiest region ever

[swift swan]

barely any stage gimmicks, regular bulk (around 17k base HP or so)

and barely any increased offenses

[lean lion]

Will be a good change of pace after Hoenn. But too easy gets boring real quick.

[steel kelp]

Johto is kanto level difficulty

[steel kelp]

just turn on all params easy

[lean lion]

I'm thinking about doing f2p/genpool only clears

[tardy belfry]

kalos is most likely after johto since we already got all other regions in 15k yea, this is just the calm before another storm

[swift swan]

this is where you start doing silly themed clears!

[swift swan]

gotta treat the anni newcomers with an easy CS

[mellow linden]

This but unironically

There’s gonna be a huge influx of newbies with half-anniversary, they’re definitely rolling with an easier CS region to ease them into it

[tardy belfry]

true, like the others said, this johto cs is a huge breather for the veterans too, can sit back for a bit to do some other experiments on team comps probs

more goofy clears I assume

[lean lion]

I'll see how far I can push it but I have a few ideas I'd like to try

I'm excited ngl

No more Glacia spamming Blizzard!!

[main crow]

I love lodge Steven

[turbid geyser]

The only jhoto champion staduium stage I dislike is like

Fire weak logo

Koga

[swift swan]

I don't remember what was wrong with it but i do remember fire weak koga being annoying

[nocturne pawn]

doubled special defense im pretty sure

[swift swan]

That was flying weak koga

[nocturne pawn]

uh

oh wait

it was crit shield before sync

[tardy belfry]

fire weak koga has a small chance of raising his evasion everytime he gets attacked

[nocturne pawn]

isnt that karen

[main crow]

Pretty sure fire koga increases defensive stat

Not sure if it's both or just one type of it

[mellow linden]

Both + crit shield

[lean lion]

It's fire Koga next week actually

[dark osprey]

True. Fire weak Koga did have that and crit shield -1 sync

[lean lion]

Crit shield, spd debuffs, toughen and tighten up

[tardy belfry]

look alive 1 too

but piercing gaze can counter that

[lean lion]

Only 20% chance though

[steel kelp]

That’s blows

Gaze doesn’t miss

[rotund lagoon]

Dude lemme know when you’ve made a #1010274591601598555 post, I wanna follow it :0

[silver dirge]

#1208860837947899965

[trail smelt]

Alright ready to make Johto teams. And grass teams I suppose

[lean lion]

Thanks so much!!!

Also get to plug my clears post haha. Even better that bestie Arch did it instead!!

[turbid geyser]

Hey guys, any reccomendarion for tanking with non supports? I just find myself taking way too much damage

[sick inlet]

Really Wish Riley had Mega

My all time mega evolution is Lucario

And riley is one of my favs as well

Would've been perf

[loud stratus]

Holy crap phoebe is giving me so much trouble

Ghost is a weird type to play with ghost zone since the enemt also takes advantage of the zone and blast you to death with shadow ball

[loud stratus]

Case in point, your ghost zone is fueling their damage

[rich needle]

Why no support

[sick inlet]

Don't do phoebe round 3

[silver dirge]

people

It's recommended there

[turbid geyser]

Cause I ain’t sure who else to use with ani lillie + Victor, I tried lodge acerola for theme but I was running out of gauge + no sp attack for Victor

Also + practice for the pablo + ss diantha + sliver team that Ima try

I ain’t sure if a 3rd to run with anni lillie, and Victor, maybe ss blue? Idk

The problem is ss blue really wants sync and so does Victor

[loud stratus]

Bp morty is a p decent tank on both phys and spec

[eternal lodge]

Beat them first

[rich needle]

Just don’t use a ghost support

[loud stratus]

All these fancy ghost sync pairs and I could only pull a win with fantina

Hisuian zoroark looks pretty tempting after fighting phoebe

[mellow linden]

She’s definitely strong, but your Ghost roster already looks pretty darn good

[north crown]

support, ssrcynthia, evictor/nydawn should be enough for almost any ghost-weak stage

[nocturne pawn]

your ghost pairs are more than fine it was probably a bulk issue

[loud stratus]

Bulk was an issue for sure. I tried so many combinations with ssr cynthia but she died so fast. Had to give up ghost zone altogether

[nocturne pawn]

eh?

how was she dying

[loud stratus]

Enemy's first sync

Even without ghost zone

[nocturne pawn]

ok phoebe shouldnt have reached sync at all

you should have been able to pre sync pretty easily

her bulk is fairly average iirc all she has is furious brawn that you have to worry about

[loud stratus]

I kinda slap max sync countdown -2 on and power through every time

[mellow linden]

I can’t say I’d ever recommend the Sync Countdown params, personally

[loud stratus]

Oh I meant my bulk. My pairs take a lot of damage.

[mellow linden]

Sync is such a massive advantage for the opponent

[nocturne pawn]

unless you’re absolutely certain you can kill with the first sync avoid them at all costs

[nocturne pawn]

yeah dont do that

you cant get 2 syncs if you take any countdown parameters

[loud stratus]

So you can always pull off 2 syncs before the enemy syncs under normal conditions?

My CS experience is almost always sync once, tank a sync and then finish them off

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[nocturne pawn]

thats cuz you run -2 countdown

[mellow linden]

Assuming nothing interferes with quadqueue (or if something does you have Adrenaline) you can Sync twice before the opponent Syncs with proper triplequeue and quadqueue

The big things that might be messing you up are how to triple queue with a readied Sync Move and quadqueue

[nocturne pawn]

i mean its cuz they run -2 sync cd param

but like quad is kind of hard

[loud stratus]

Okay i'm not 100% on triplequeue and quadqueue. Is that when you quickly queue a move after your own sync to to get 4 consecutive moves?

[nocturne pawn]

its buffering a move

before the enemy can act

so you get 3 instead of the usual 2

[mellow linden]

Yeah, quadqueue is using that window that occurs when your Sync is the 1st action of your team’s moves

That way you can squeeze in a 4th action

[nocturne pawn]

very small window but its pretty important to know how it happens

[mellow linden]

Hold on, we have a command

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[loud stratus]

What's the recommended replacement for countdown -2? I usually have it included in my base 3000 set, which i adjust a little bit depending on the stage, but i almost never remove countdown -2.

[nocturne pawn]

strength

[loud stratus]

I have all strength params active, except strength 1 which i might replace with no stat reduction of hp up 2 or sth

[nocturne pawn]

ok dont take hp up with max str

dont be afraid of attack params either

[loud stratus]

Does that just make the enemy way too bulky

[nocturne pawn]

yes

its affecting the base stat which then gets affected by the strength parameter

[loud stratus]

These are the params for stages where i can use zone. I use this set most often.

[north crown]

Can't you refer to the pins? I'm pretty sure they conver all param. options.

[nocturne pawn]

not for 3k

its dependent on the team at that point

cant go cookie cutter mode until they add more parameters

[loud stratus]

Oh this?

[rich needle]

I am cookies

Though my cookies are harder than they should be

[north crown]

this is a good start

[rich needle]

Max sync countdown 2 is wild

[north crown]

should explain majority of the options

[turbid geyser]

my problem with that it feels that in 3k master mode i just instantly explode with all the damage stuff

or I don't deal enough damage cause i have to put so much hp so i dont instantly die

[mellow linden]

I'm not sure how that correlates to my statement about 2 Syncs before opponent Sync

[rich needle]

What team is getting instantly exploded exactly

[turbid geyser]

I was talking about in general

[rich needle]

Then you’re just not doing it right idk

[dreamy sigil]

Can't use the tracker because it refuses to cooperate on my phone, but can somebody help me teambuild for 850 mm this week? My teams for nm this week were
ss blue/bea/colress
glacia/sycamore/looker(needed ice and poison)
kiawe/olivia/sonia
lucian/allister/nc calem
caitlin/nc rosa/bianca

[mellow linden]

If you're doing Master Mode then you don't need to worry about type medal

Oh, wait, misread

Okay, before anything else, stop ignoring the free event Sync Pairs, you should be grabbing at least the custom powerups + 3/5 for all of them, no exceptions

[dreamy sigil]

I'm like 99% sure they're all 20/20

[mellow linden]

Your 1/5 Eve, 1/5 Katherine, and seeming lack of Petey in his entirety say otherwise

[dreamy sigil]

Oohhhh

The other ones

Yeah I don't have a good reason for that

I did pick up alcremie tho

[mellow linden]

With that said, IMO:

• Change Bea's teammates to SSA Cynthia + Hilbert.
• Try a Mina team or off-type with Cyrus against Sidney.
• Try Acerola instead of Kiawe for Olivia's team, grid Olivia for Sand Blaster, Inertia, and Stone Edge Amped Up if possible (Inertia at minimum).
• Change Allister's teammates to Victor + a good tank.

[dreamy sigil]

Noted, noted

Wdym by the second bullet tho?

[mellow linden]

Either build a team around Mina since Sidney is weak to Fairy, or ignore type weaknesses and off-type with a team built around Cyrus spamming Hydro Pump

[dreamy sigil]

Hm okay

With like may and a spatk buffer?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

[dreamy sigil]

Alrighty, thanks cobalt

[north crown]

support ex preferred, since that boosts Cyrus' insane HP damage

May COULD nuke offtype, but her sync multiplers are.... questionable at best

[dreamy sigil]

Will most likely use sycamore

Allister can max himself out with Victor's help

[north crown]

also could just use any other spark+crit support

[nocturne pawn]

hide and sync is pretty bad yeah

[rain turret]

I just did ez 3k on phoebe with anni lillie, victor and morty, now Im going to fight sidney with ss gladion, sycamore and I need suggestions for the 3rd member

[north crown]

first of all, the two fairy types you picked have almost no synergy. second, SSGladion should be able to wipe the stage regardless.

If you got any fairy zone unit, there is literally no problem

[rain turret]

oh yeah, egg sylveon

[azure shale]

Anyone have any tips for completing the full medal for hard mode it would be much appreciated:) I just got through my first full clear

[mellow linden]

Unfortunately you’ll have to finish Hoenn’s type medal whenever the region reruns and start from scratch on Johto CS next week

For some general tips, try to find duos of Sync Pairs that don’t require any other assistance from a teammate (stuff like SS Steven + Skyla, as an example) and use the 3rd slot as filler for the type medal. That’s one of the easiest ways to increase your medal progress gained week 1

Another way is to look for alternatives of other types for specific roles, like using Winona instead of May for a Rain setter (or vice versa)

[azure shale]

So for example, I have 5 teams made all currently used to clear one of the stages + champion, I should turn these teams into reliable duos and use the 3rd slot as fill then?

[mellow linden]

If there’s a team member who isn’t required for one purpose or another, yeah

[azure shale]

Is there a specific stat I should focus on like def or SpD I feel like if I lack either of those I just insta melt

[rain turret]

bruh wtf just happened I just got one of easiest 15k in a while

I wasnt expecting this week to be so easy

my teams are on #1010274591601598555 btw

[mellow linden]

Depends on the stage and the team, some teams may KO the opponent so fast that no defensive buffs are necessary

[azure shale]

Icic, so an SS gladion or Steven team may not need defense but anything with subpar damage could be stalled, I guess it depends on the stage too, thank you lots

[north crown]

wow.. for a newer player, you sure pick up information fast

[paper summit]

we like those

[silver dirge]

We do

[rich needle]

[mellow linden]

@vital dagger if you wanna go more in-depth on the matter, could you show your parameters and the team you were using?

[vital dagger]

i'm trying different teams, to try and work it out. Since my Magearna is 3/5, i try to sync with him instead of a support, so i can have two uses of the buddy move both pre and after sync. This last one i just went with Zapdos as the 1st target and comfey to get the type bonuses

[mellow linden]

Ignore Theme Skills

[north crown]

... Zapdos? Isn't he the most broken support in the game?

[mellow linden]

That's part of the issue

Also, you don't have to Sync with Gladion 1st to get 2 uses of his B Move, so try Support EX Sync 1st

[pastel osprey]

what parameters are you using? Seem like a parameters issue honestly

[vital dagger]

https://gyazo.com/c750840c6fc57ffbca0e0448419073a9

https://gyazo.com/6f773396f00da1212592c14708db5506

[mellow linden]

That's way too much Defense and Sp. Def. params

[vital dagger]

i always cleared everything with these

[mellow linden]

You should be avoiding all but maybe the weakest if doing an offense-oriented clear

Oh, wait

I misread

That's not active

Very sorry about that

[north crown]

strike sync pairs take x3 damage:

max sync cd -1:

bro why

[mellow linden]

Honestly just replace Comfey with SS Wally and you should be golden

Don't even need Wally's B Move, just Zone is enough

[north crown]

MAX SYNC CD 2

wat teh fucc

[rich needle]

Listen gakon and Odin I was laughing because that is legit funny okay

[north crown]

max HP 💀

[mellow linden]

No no, that's inactive

[vital dagger]

what are you even reading

[mellow linden]

I made the same mistake

[north crown]

omg I'm misreading too

[mellow linden]

So the parameters seem fine, we're just noobs at reading the specific way they're displayed

[rich needle]

No stat reduction is vile

[north crown]

oh my god that's a lot of offensive multipler options

[rich needle]

Tho I guess it’s team dependent

[vital dagger]

don't i need that for magearna's passive?

[rich needle]

No?

Oh I also can’t read

[mellow linden]

Anyway, make this change and you should be good

[vital dagger]

not passive sorry, grid tiles

[rich needle]

Ignore me

Kek

[north crown]

str +3 is still unchecked, so you could probably replace atk & spatk +5 with str 3

[rich needle]

However

Gradual healing is ew

[vital dagger]

i don't know what's troubling so much in reading that guys xd

[rich needle]

Like genuinely ew

[mellow linden]

I love how the format has fooled 3 separate people now

[vital dagger]

eh, i know, but i have to reach 3k somehow

[north crown]

there needs to be more unsaturation

[rich needle]

I don’t even know why it fooled me

It just didn’t make sense to me

Oh await

Isn’t it opposite to hit it is in game

How

Cuz in game it darkens when you click right?

[mellow linden]

I think? Regardless, that hiccup has been resolved

[north crown]

man 🐴

[rich needle]

But gradual healing bad

Woosh

[north crown]

I'm more concerned about the max opponent atk multipliers

[rich needle]

Isn’t that what people do for presyncin

[mellow linden]

It's probably fine once Fairy Zone enters the picture

[north crown]

they're fighting about 200% offensive stats on top of strength

also, NCBlue is redundant since iirc, SSGlad is self sufficient

[mellow linden]

True

[rich needle]

I mean it’s still beefy

It shouldn’t die at all

[mellow linden]

He can be saved for another team

[rich needle]

Tru

[vital dagger]

honestly any support would be nice, as long as it takes the hit

[north crown]

Endure tanks be like:

[rich needle]

Then wot do you have

[vital dagger]

and that's something none of my supports is doing

[rich needle]

Soosy

[mellow linden]

I think the main thing is putting Fairy Zone in there instead of Comfey

[vital dagger]

i tried now, would have been fine, but couldn't get second sync in, since zapdos died

[north crown]

You could also meme with sleep units

[rich needle]

Soosy

[north crown]

no need to tank if they can't attack

[rich needle]

How much discharge are you clicking

[mellow linden]

Can try lowering the amount of offenses in parameters then, maybe. Or try to abuse flinch

[rich needle]

Enable flinch

[vital dagger]

yeah, anyway my main point isn't that i can't complete it

i can sleep, i can flinch, it's all ok

but i thought magearna could steamroll the whole stage

[mellow linden]

Well you can't flinch if Interference Immunity is active

[vital dagger]

and i don't understand why it doesn't

[rich needle]

It should

[north crown]

it can; it just needs a bit of time to do so

[rich needle]

Not even

Just take some attack out for hp

Gladion will kill them anyway

[vital dagger]

ok, correct me if i'm wrong

to get 2 use of buddy move, i have to sync with gladion?

[mellow linden]

At some point, not as 1st Sync tho

[rich needle]

You need the tile but yis

[mellow linden]

It's Gladion's 1st Sync that restores MP, not the 1st Sync in general

[vital dagger]

exactly

someone on the other thread said

"you can sync with support"

and that's not true

[rich needle]

You sync with support first

[mellow linden]

You can though

[rich needle]

Then blast them with b move

Then sync with gladion

[mellow linden]

I think you'll get more out of a B Move after Support EX anyway

[rich needle]

And honestly at 3:5 they’re dead

[vital dagger]

ok but we're supposed to do all this within the enemy's sync move

[north crown]

deny sides*

[rich needle]

But if not blast

[mellow linden]

You can Sync twice before enemy Syncs

[vital dagger]

unless i'm flinching or sleeping, but that's not the strategy i want for this one

[rich needle]

Pre sync has 2 syncs

[mellow linden]

And I think Gladion will KO by your 2nd Sync with Support EX and Fairy Zone

[rich needle]

No not even

Quad queue exist

And gladion can cheat

[vital dagger]

haven't used the roll cake

[rich needle]

?

[north crown]

no, you don't even need quadqueue. just deny sides with bmove on turn 4 after support ex, ez.

[rich needle]

Boot time

[mellow linden]

You don't need to do 1st Sync with Gladion

Is the point we're making

You can just roll with an EX Support that has Adrenaline if need be

Reduce the offensive parameters for a little more HP if needed for your team's survival, maybe, idk

An SS Gladion B Move under Zone with Support EX Sync should do absurd amounts of damage

[vital dagger]

with support's sync it's fairly easy

but it's boring at the same time

i'd hoped i could make it with double magearna sync

guess it'll be for next time

[nocturne pawn]

you definitely still can

well

actually

he should just nuke with b move post sync anyway

[mellow linden]

1st Sync with SS Wally if you don't wanna do EX Support Sync, I guess

[autumn jay]

Is there a way to make phoebe and crew stop spamming aoes?

[north crown]

Rolex:

[north crown]

flinch/sleep stall

[mellow linden]

If it's before center goes down, pray to the Random Number Gods.

If it's after center goes down, flinch/sleep/freeze or hope for Paralysis/Confusion RNG

Technically the 2nd half works at any time

[rich needle]

I’m 100% sure it can

My gladion 1/5 level 123 can half health sydney and y’all know I have wacky post sync params

And my support was bp Barry so clearly that wasn’t doing anything

[dreamy sigil]

is there neccesarily a point in time where i should increase my point params for mm? or do you just increase them as you get comfortable

been doing 850 for some time now with 3 regions i believe

[nocturne pawn]

do you want to go up

do you feel like you can do higher

[dreamy sigil]

yes?

i think i'm capable

even if i don't get it first try

[toxic cobalt]

Go for it! It's fine not to get it first try

(I take, many tries sometimes)

[dreamy sigil]

alright, 1.5k hoenn here i go

(i am scared shitless)

okay glacia was pretty easy

[lean lion]

You got this dw!!

[wide adder]

Sooo uh, just was slapping teams together, will prob change blue due to turn 1 awkwardness for ss gladion team or maybe not idk. But uh; what team is most gauge heavy?

Since we have a gauge boost param picking my r1 based off that

[nocturne pawn]

anni lille gauge team is dying of cringe

[wide adder]

Is it really that bad for the ghost team?

[nocturne pawn]

anni lillie is very slow

also i would probably use ss brendan on a different team unless ur trying to dual dps with spectrier too

[wide adder]

There’s no one else that really needs Brendan

[north crown]

I’d suggest swapping NCBlue and SSBrendan

[nocturne pawn]

i mean what about the annimay team if ur trying to dps with her

[wide adder]

Brendan and gladion antisynergy, turn 1 both want the gauge

[nocturne pawn]

i mean so does nc blue

[north crown]

Pot turn 1, TM turn 2

[wide adder]

May is 1/5 she’s there for terrain

[north crown]

That’s what I did

[wide adder]

Whole psy team is actually

Figured rebuff and terrain enough for lussa to delete anyway

[north crown]

Just make sure not to waste her SEUP on anything but her sync

[tulip python]

Whoever it was that gave me those 3k parameters last week, you’re the GOAT!

EZ mode CS this week now too

[scarlet garnet]

I have a question. What the general parameters used for 3k scoring? I wanna atleast try against 3 battles to get the easy champions spirits

Noted

[cedar flume]

14.5k this week smh just gimmie Ttar already

[hushed sorrel]

What the heck lol everything died before 1st Sync.

[sick inlet]

I wonder why

[hushed sorrel]

Forgive me. I've only had my steven for a couple of weeks

[manic kiln]

1 is already overkill, 3 of them together

[hushed sorrel]

OK that's a lie it's a bit longer than that

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week and screw it im just gonna use my HSE teams LMAO

[undone ether]

Ill cook in the weekend

Or later tonight

[hushed sorrel]

If you put in 3 limited pairs. It's pretty much a instant noodle recipe. Not much cooking required 😂

2minute noodle recipe.

[manic mica]

I wish I had Brendan
Sceptile is so good

[undone ether]

hum okaay i think this should do it for the next 2 weeks of Johto.

[sick inlet]

Johto is easy mode
Everyone should Solo

[tulip python]

Steven is very very good

[mellow linden]

Your Masked Royal isn’t gonna be getting any crit buffs week 2, Rachel doesn’t really help an Akari + MR team at all

Also on week 2 your Blue isn’t gonna be able to fully setup until well after his 1st Sync (if he’s able to fully setup at all), SC Steven’s Rebuff isn’t a substitute for your team getting the buffs they need

And while it doesn’t matter all that much I think Psychic Terrain is slightly better than Sp. Def. debuffs for SS Lusamine

Actually, I stand corrected on Blue, if you get an MP Refresh and spend 3 turns on setup

If that happens then he does set up fully by 1st Sync

[fading blade]

how do you unlock master mode in champion stadium

it has 5 battles of 3 pairs 15 types

how do you complete 18 types

[silver dirge]

Over 2 weeks

[fading blade]

Thanksss

[mellow linden]

Type medal doesn’t reset, as long as you beat the Champion that week the progress stays forever for that region

But do note that when the region changes to Johto next week you’ll be working on that region’s type medal, and will have to finish Hoenn’s type medal when the region reruns if you haven’t completed it yet

[urban cave]

Oh Johto?

Easy

[fading blade]

That was something i would confuse thanks to you as well for clarifying

[undone ether]

For the Will Fight, i think i'll do Masked Royale, Akari + NC Calem .-.;

[vestal echo]

dafuq is this week CS. my supports get 1 shot basicly. and ive eased last 10 weeks on 15k pts. 0.0 something changed?

[mellow linden]

Could be you accidentally turned on Supports take x3 damage param

But nothing has changed for the stages

[vestal echo]

havnt really changed params since we cant view others due to the bugs. guess i gotta take alook zz

[eternal lodge]

Next week is getting nuked

[nocturne pawn]

its also johto

its getting nuked regardless of whether your pairs are less than a year old or not

[undone jay]

I need some help beating champion stadium.

I have some outdated pairs. but some good ones too

[mellow linden]

What specifically are you having trouble with, and is it Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[undone jay]

Master mode hoenn

[mellow linden]

How many points per stage?

[undone jay]

I want a high point challenge

or whatever

idk whats reasonable

[mellow linden]

Have you done Master Mode before?

[undone jay]

I tried 2.5k but it was impossible

long time agio

ago

I forgot how I won.

[mellow linden]

I’d stick with 850 points per stage for now to reacquaint yourself with the mode, then

[undone jay]

Will I still earn enough of the rewards to ex?

[mellow linden]

850 points per stage gets all the most important rewards

[undone jay]

what does more points get then?

[mellow linden]

Extra powerup tickets/champion spirits that aren’t required

[undone jay]

Those would be good to have though.

[mellow linden]

But it’s not worth pushing yourself more than you can handle, either

[undone jay]

I want to try 2.5k. Can you still help me? I have some good pairs that are exd like ssacynthia and ash

[mellow linden]

Show your roster and we’ll see what we’re working with

I don’t recommend jumping immediately to 2.5k if you’re largely unfamiliar with Master Mode, though, especially for the harder regions like Hoenn. If you wanna bump up the rewards a bit you can try 1500 points per stage for some more rewards without as significant of a difficulty spike

You can always reset and try for more points later if you feel ready to handle it this week

[undone jay]

Okay.

these are my pairs

my roster.

[mellow linden]

So for future reference, screenshots or the Sync Pair tracker (which I’ll get a link for in a moment) are much easier for us to check than video

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[mellow linden]

It’s fine for now, just something to keep in mind for future times

[undone jay]

Oh okay. my bad.

ok

[rich needle]

Why much is level 1

[undone jay]

because I haven't bothered

I play only a little

[mellow linden]

So, can try:

• SSR Cynthia + Allister or Shauntal + appropriate Support against Phoebe.
• Roark + an Attack & crit Support + an appropriate 3rd teammate against Drake.
• Bea + SSA Cynthia + an Attack & crit Support against Glacia.
• Off-type Sidney with Ash or SST Red (save whichever one you don’t pick here as a back pocket option for if you have trouble elsewhere).
• SS Steven + SS Lana + a 3rd team member against Wallace.

If you can’t grid Roark and get him to at least 4-star potential then off-type Drake instead

[nocturne pawn]

do they not have olivia move levels

[mellow linden]

Theirs is 1/5

Their SC Hilda could work in lieu of Roark, but she’s also only 1/5 and they wanna go for a higher point value, so idk how well she’ll work

[nocturne pawn]

unfortunate

[undone jay]

not worth candying?

Okay I'll go for 1500 this time

then next week 2500

[mellow linden]

I wouldn’t candy her purely for this one time

[undone jay]

then she could be fine

I've worked diamond storm in some weird places

[mellow linden]

Next week you’ll likely have to complete the Johto type medal

[undone jay]

some battle challenges during kalos

[undone jay]

true. but then next week

[mellow linden]

I guess you could try dual damage-dealer Roark + SC Hilda if the Support can handle the gauge well enough

[undone jay]

ssblue?

[mellow linden]

If Roark can be given the investment outlined previously

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t provide the necessary buffs

[undone jay]

'necessary buffs'?

like what?

oh attack and crit

[mellow linden]

4/5 Sonia

[undone jay]

ssmay doesn't doesn't she?

[mellow linden]

Sonia can probably handle it

[undone jay]

even without ex support buff?

[mellow linden]

With Roark and SC Hilda’s combined damage it should be fine for 1500

[undone jay]

oh yeah and what round order should I do?

oh oh and what about toxic stall?

if things go wrong one round. ssleaf janine dawn

[mellow linden]

Can Poison stall if you have trouble with offense-oriented clears, yeah

As for round order, maybe consider avoiding Phoebe on round 3, but otherwise it doesn’t matter a ton

[undone jay]

going to try now.

oh and you'd want me to grid these, right?

is there a page on good grids + lucky skills and whatever else?

[mellow linden]

#1009587872342478908 pins has a document with grid and Lucky Skill recommendations for all Sync Pairs

Roark and the Attack + crit Supports are the main ones you really wanna grid

[undone jay]

oh I forgot this too
What points should I add for 1500 for each of these?

what do you mean by appropriate teammates too?

[mellow linden]

Parameter recommendations are in the pins.

• Pre-Sync: Have to KO center before opponent Syncs.
• Post-Sync: Don’t care if opponent Syncs.

“Appropriate teammate” means someone who provides whatever the other mentioned team members need, such as necessary offensive buffs

[undone jay]

what parameters would you recommend?

[mellow linden]

Depends on needs/preferences

[toxic cobalt]

Build team first, set parameters later

[undone jay]

So I tried phoebe

allister fainted first attack

[undone jay]

not sure what I did so wrong here.

[mellow linden]

Change your tactics so Allister isn't targeted 1st

Your Support should be the 1st target, Allister is a damage-dealer and can't handle that sort of thing

[undone jay]

allister wasn't targeted 1st

he's second. it was rock slide or something.

[mellow linden]

Ah, my bad then. Sounds like possibly too many offensive parameters then. What Support did you pick?

[undone jay]

sycamoreex

[undone jay]

I did ontype damage presync

for 1.5

[mellow linden]

I guess reset so the AoE moves are used less

If you can't KO the center before they Sync try gridding Sycamore with Adrenaline

So you can Sync twice before the opponent Syncs

[undone jay]

used the aoe at the start again

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore isn’t setting up defences for awhile

Or defence at all

[undone jay]

sycamore just died to a shadowball

that was my 3rd try

[mellow linden]

Sometimes it takes multiple tries

[toxic cobalt]

What is the full team?

[undone jay]

so its normal for support exs to die first move?

I have to rely on luck that much?

[toxic cobalt]

EX doesn’t buff defence for Sycamore

[mellow linden]

Try dropping SSR Cynthia and using Lucian instead if Shadow Ball is too much of a problem

[undone jay]

how

does that help sycamore

[mellow linden]

That way you still get a damage boost for Allister but don't have Ghost Zone boosting the opponents as well as you

Which means Sycamore is more likely to take the Shadow Ball just fine

[undone jay]

I'm going to use a different support

[formal vigil]

Also gets rid of pheobe furious brawn

[undone jay]

what?

what's that?

[mellow linden]

Deals more damage if she has Attack buffs

Lucian debuffs Attack

Thus removing that passive's boost

So again, if Shadow Ball is the main issue replace SSR Cynthia with Lucian and it'll probably fix the main problem

[undone jay]

no id say earthquake is

I have to rely on slim luck that earthquake doesn't trigger

[mellow linden]

Good thing Attack debuffs will weaken that too then

Earthquake isn't that unlikely to not be used early anyway, though

Also, grid Team Sharp Entry on your Sycamore and have Allister use his Trainer Move twice so he has max crit

[undone jay]

allister slaughtered by burn from heatwave

okay going to grid sycamore now..

[mellow linden]

Heat Wave Burn is rare

Sometimes things just happen, resets in varying degrees are a normal part of Master Mode

[undone jay]

I couldn't find a "team sharp entry"

on his grid

[mellow linden]

Did you not get Sycamore’s Power Boost when you got his EX?

[undone jay]

I believe I did

[toxic cobalt]

It’s a cheap one on the side

Mid side

[undone jay]

there's no side

[mellow linden]

So no Power Boost then

Lemme check something

Grid Sharp Entry on Allister then

[undone jay]

why doesn't he have the boost?

[mellow linden]

You didn't do the event that gives it, I guess

[undone jay]

there was an event?

I just thought there was a legendary adventure

[mellow linden]

Yes, there was an event for his EX and an event for his Power Boost

The base Legendary Adventures just gives 5/5 20/20

EX and some extra grid tiles (or Mega Evolution for Giovanni and Zinnia) is from limited time events

[undone jay]

okay, I gridded sharp entry on allister

let me see how this goes

so on lucian I should just growl, growl growl

[mellow linden]

Make sure to use Allister's Trainer Move twice so he has max crit

[mellow linden]

Yep

[undone jay]

when should I use allister max move

so sycamore died

before he could sync

to two shadow balls

[mellow linden]

That happens sometimes

Just reset if the opponent spams high damage moves

[undone jay]

so

how much luck do I have to rely on here?

how many times do I have to reset to win?

[mellow linden]

Once you’ve got the proper setup going usually not that many

But some resets are normal for Master Mode. Sometimes the opponent just chooses violence and spams their strongest moves

[undone jay]

so the plan is
allister trainer move twice then shadow ball
lucian just growl

sycamore trainer move then horn leech till sync

and when do I max move allister?

[mellow linden]

Probably right before your 2nd Sync

So queueing something like Max Move -> teammate action 1 -> teammate action 2 -> queue Allister Sync as soon as his Max Move is done and he can queue again

[undone jay]

should I use allister mp refresh

[mellow linden]

2 Trainer Move uses is all he needs since Sycamore takes care of Sp. Atk. buffs and Sharp Entry handles that missing crit

[undone jay]

so its normal to have 7+ resets and no win?

not even close?

just checking.

[mellow linden]

Can you show the exact parameters you’re running? Because if you’re having that many resets it could be that you’ve made a mistake somewhere while selecting parameters

[undone jay]

screenshots of the parameters

[mellow linden]

I don’t think a zip file works here

You can just upload multiple screenshots at once directly via Discord itself

Or do them one at a time if multiple at once doesn’t work for some reason

[undone jay]

saying upload failed

I'll just tell you them

[mellow linden]

Ok

[undone jay]

physical dmg reduction
special dmg reduction
attack & sp atk 1
no status conditions
strength 1
sync buff 5
attack and sp atk 3
ally healing 5
power on hit 1
physical dmg reduction 8
gradual healing at start
attack & sp atk 5
strength 2
power hit 2

those are the parameters

[sick inlet]

All attacks up is basically shooting yourself in the foot
Because you will not survive more than 2 hits

[mellow linden]

You can reduce the Attack and Sp. Atk. parameters immensely by grabbing Move Gauge -2 and Standard Damage Reduction 8

I think too many Attack parameters is the main issue

Wait, I see the problem

You picked the off-type 1.5k params

Use the On-type one

[undone jay]

I did!

[toxic cobalt]

Even offtype should have mg-2

[mellow linden]

You either didn't or you altered them

[undone jay]

those are the ontype!

[mellow linden]

They aren't

I can see the on-type 1.5k and they're different

[undone jay]

on the spreadsheet

on-type (dmg)

[sick inlet]

The stuff on the bottom, move gauge-2 and standard damage reduction 8 are crucial

[mellow linden]

That's 2k, more likely

Not 1.5k

[undone jay]

oh I see the issue

yep. I was doing 2k

and removing some

ay yi yi

sorry

[sick inlet]

Learning experience

[mellow linden]

Go with 1.5k and you should be having a much easier time

And hopefully you now see why I don't recommend jumping directly to 2.5k if you're unfamiliar with the mode

[undone jay]

its crazy though

3 of those attempts I got phoebe down to half

so

[sick inlet]

You'll get used to it

[wide adder]

Looks like I underestimated max moves, didn’t expect this to go so smoothly with a 1/5 gloralt and 2/5 ssac and no ex Riley

[undone jay]

thanks everybody

for reminding me to have a brain

[undone jay]

executed wrong that's all

hey I don't seem to be using allister's max move correctly

I can never do it before phoebe syncs

it doesn't count as a "move" that moves the sync countdown up

[mellow linden]

That’s why you queue it when his Sync Move is ready

So you can try to quadqueue the Sync Move after the Max Move (if you’re not aware of what quadqueue is lemme know and I’ll pull up the guide for it)

[undone jay]

I believe I do but

I can't see a way to do it..

[mellow linden]

Just in case, lemme pull it up

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[mellow linden]

You apply the exact same principle, except when Allister’s Sync is ready you queue his Max Move 1st instead of his Sync Move. Then you can quadqueue the Sync Move

Also, if you feel Allister’s Shadow Ball damage is a little low you can use Sludge Bomb as his 3rd action before Sycamore’s Sync to set up his Toxic Power modifier

[crystal notch]

wait how does that work,
Max Move > sync move > rush queue two other moves > quadqueue with allistor again?

[mellow linden]

No, you’d queue Max Move -> other teammates’ moves -> quadqueue the Sync

[crystal notch]

Wouldn't you waste 2 CD

From losing other teammates moves

[toxic cobalt]

you don't lose them, you can requeue them again

[mellow linden]

Not if the Sync KOs center

Because you just queue the teammates’ moves after Sync again

[crystal notch]

Fair enough

I was thinking that the enemy doesn't die

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if that’s the case you handle it differently

[crystal notch]

Because then it's max move > two moves > sync moves > enemy moves > requeue again

[undone jay]

okay beat allister

onto glacia

[mellow linden]

Fortunately Glacia should be much easier to handle via combination of starting with better parameters and the team being way stronger

[undone jay]

I'm having huge move gauge problems with glacia

[mellow linden]

What’s the Support you picked?

[undone jay]

tried bea then guzma sc

[undone jay]

aaron ex

[mellow linden]

Lemme check something

Actually, wait

If using SC Guzma don’t worry about Attack + crit Support and just bring Skyla or another gauge Support

[undone jay]

gotcha

[oak panther]

Hello I just got to stadium whats a good group to run with

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode (Hoenn) or just the Normal Mode “tutorial” one (Kanto)?

[oak panther]

Normal

[mellow linden]

So the Kanto Elite 4, Lance is the Champion?

[oak panther]

Yes

[mellow linden]

That one’s easy, just follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines in #1010307000346878062 and make 5 teams and you should be fine

[undone jay]

8+ attempts and counting with glacia

for some reason I can't double sync

I'm left with 4 instead of 3, if you know what I mean

also move gauge problems

and guzma missing moves

[mellow linden]

SC Guzma missing moves is intentional due to how his kit works

What gauge Support did you replace Aaron with?

[undone jay]

skyla

[mellow linden]

Also, if need be feel free to switch to post-Sync for Glacia, SSA Cynthia gives plenty of bulk to the team for that to happen and she prevents quadqueue without 3/5 or a Sprint Cake/Adrenaline Lucky Skill

[toxic cobalt]

Orrrrr just use sleep

[undone jay]

sleep?

[toxic cobalt]

Buzzma is fully self-buffing right?

no need for a second support

[mellow linden]

Are you making sure to use her Trainer Move at least twice, and only use Gust for her damaging moves?

[undone jay]

yes.

[mellow linden]

Tbf this is 1.5k

Actually, hold on

[toxic cobalt]

you want 2 syncs at any difficulty,

[undone jay]

trying post sync hold on

[mellow linden]

For future reference that can be kept in mind, but this is low point value and it shouldn’t be wholly necessary

[undone jay]

it should always be kept in mind

[mellow linden]

Yes

I’m aware

Hold on, idea

It’s a bit RNG though

Switch back to Bea, run SS Morty as the Support, have Bea use X Attack twice

[undone jay]

hang on, murdering glacia

in cold blood..

[mellow linden]

Oh, well if you won it’s a moot point

I was gonna say try running the Critical Clock tile on Bea and just reset for it to activate and offset the anti-quadqueue problem SSA Cynthia presents

[toxic cobalt]

That's high-level thinking

[undone jay]

oh god

that rng was crazy

missed 3 punches

skyla died to blizzard

cynthia nd guzma nearly did

then blizzard missed thrice

[mellow linden]

It do be like that sometimes

[undone jay]

guzma sync didnt kill

blizzard missed again

guzma hammer arm

won

damnn

[toxic cobalt]

Blizzard eh?

[undone jay]

side guys

[mellow linden]

So real quick, whenever you get to Drake (be it next or 4th), make sure Sonia is gridded with Ruff Buff MP Refresh, Ruff Buff Critical Squad, and Spark Team Fast-Track

And make sure you get at least 1 MP Refresh on Ruff Buff

That’s part of why resets in CS are normal, sometimes you need to get an MP Refresh early on to complete buffs

As for Roark, grid Standfast 7 and Standfast 5 at least

Worst case scenario you have Ash or SST Red in your back pocket

[undone jay]

true

also my others

idk about you but

irida, akari, nemona

all superb

[toxic cobalt]

All superb indeed

[mellow linden]

Irida and Akari are possible back pocket options if needed

[undone jay]

so weird what

sst red doing nothing to sidney

[mellow linden]

Is Standard Damage Reduction 8 turned on?

Or Physical Damage Reduction 8, for that matter

[undone jay]

yes

and yes

[mellow linden]

Those are the problems

Standard Damage Reduction 8 reduces non-supereffective damage by 80% and Physical Damage Reduction 8 does the same for physical damage

[undone jay]

oh

[mellow linden]

You’ll need to switch to off-type parameters

[undone jay]

i set wrong parameters again

[mellow linden]

It happens

[undone jay]

yep just about to say it

dumbass

[mellow linden]

I’ve used the wrong parameters dozens of times

It happens to everyone at least once

When you need to switch back and forth between multiple sets because you have 3 teams that use 1 set, a 4th team that uses another, and a 5th that uses still another you’ll inevitably make a mistake sooner or later

[undone ether]

I usually set my params up like...
1 Physical ontype Post Sync
1 Special ontype Post Sync
1 Presync ontype
And
1 both damage types + ontype post sync

[oak panther]

so i did the 101 and got this

[mellow linden]

So have you put together 5 teams using the Teambuilding 101 guidelines as guidance?

[oak panther]

can you link me to it again sorry

[mellow linden]

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a / striker or a tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

[mellow linden]

It’s also in #1010307000346878062 if you ever need a refresher

The damage-dealer you build a team around will usually be a Strike, Tech, Field, or Sprint pair

[oak panther]

aaaaaaaaaa im trying to figure out what would be my with my characters i have

[mellow linden]

You can just pick 5 favorites from those roles here, the Normal Mode is easy and more designed to teach you how the mode works than anything

[oak panther]

my bad it says hard mode

[mellow linden]

So the Hoenn Elite 4 with Wallace as Champion?

Because before you said it was the Kanto Elite 4 with Lance as the Champion

[oak panther]

yes

[undone jay]

ay yi yi

still red does nothing

and move gauge issues

[mellow linden]

In that case, you can build a team around:

• SSR Cynthia + Giratina for the fight against Phoebe.
• Riley + Lucario for the fight against Glacia.
• SS Wally + Gardevoir for the fight against Sidney.
• Olivia + Lycanroc for the fight against Drake.
• Giovanni + Mewtwo for the fight against Wallace.

Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines, and try to use 9-12 unique types (the type of the Sync Move) across your 5 teams

[undone jay]

like I did off type post sync

[mellow linden]

Question: When are you using his Max Move and when are you using his Electric Terrain?

[oak panther]

thank you

[undone jay]

terrain right away

max move before sync

second sync

which never comes because the countdown ends up at 5

[mellow linden]

So with SST Red you can use his Max Move much sooner

[toxic cobalt]

Once again I appeal for the use of sleep

[mellow linden]

Because of his Max Countdown passive

[undone jay]

but the volt tackle does nothing

like nothing

[toxic cobalt]

please screenshot your params

[mellow linden]

Post each image individually if necessary

[undone jay]

oh sorry

not sure why previous screenshot sent

but those are the parameters set.

[toxic cobalt]

Take off strike x3

[mellow linden]

SST Red is Tech

[undone jay]

that's not gonna fix poor damage output from red

[mellow linden]

Strike x3 damage should be alright on that team

[toxic cobalt]

My bad

[mellow linden]

Try replacing No Status Conditions with Interference Immunity so SST Red’s Max Move can Paralyze

[toxic cobalt]

These params should work shouldn't they? Looks fine

[oak panther]

im so confused and im not here yet

[mellow linden]

That way his B Move can lower the opponents’ defenses and thus deal more damage

[undone jay]

hope so

[mellow linden]

You can also use his Max Move as his 3rd action in the fight, because he has a passive that offsets the Max Move’s lack of progressing Sync Countdown

I’m surprised that gauge is an issue, SST Red is pretty gauge friendly. Are you clicking Attack Order on Aaron?

Because that would explain the issue for sure, Aaron’s better off spamming Defend Order

[undone jay]

just defend order

[mellow linden]

Hmm

Weird that gauge is problematic then

[undone jay]

oh my god

max move did

1/20th of sidney's hp

volt tackle is still awful

[mellow linden]

He should be doing way more damage with his B Move, that’s the part that’s confusing me

[undone jay]

his sync is poor too

sidney's healing faster than he can die

maybe I should exchange grad healing

because sides died

to volt

before sidney's sync

[mellow linden]

Can try going ahead and doing that, I’m not sure why there’s such a big issue with damage though

[undone jay]

literally

im lost

[mellow linden]

…just to make sure, when are you using Red’s Trainer Move?

[undone jay]

right away

1st action

[toxic cobalt]

confusing

[undone jay]

there's um

there's a little shield

in the top right

with the physical icon

you can see it in the screenshot i sent before

[mellow linden]

That should be ignored by Red’s attacks

Because he always crits

Try coming back to Sidney later

[undone jay]

yep still cant do it

hes on yellow hp but it doesn't matter

ugh

okay im gonna try nemona

[mellow linden]

Nemona won’t do better than Red here

[undone jay]

why so?

[mellow linden]

SST Red is straight up more damage than her

Come back to Sidney later

[undone jay]

that's like saying sidney's unbeatable

[mellow linden]

It’s not like that at all

[undone jay]

its saying ash wouldn't do any good either

[mellow linden]

It is not saying that

Go do Drake right now so we can make sure you don’t need any of your back pocket options for him

That way you can just throw both SST Red and Ash at Sidney for maximum overkill

[undone jay]

so that I don't have to scroll, what was your idea for him?

[undone jay]

do you know my bearded dragon is named Sidney

[mellow linden]

Sonia + Roark + SC Hilda was the idea

[undone jay]

spelled just like that

curse you, I feed you worms every day!

[mellow linden]

If gauge is a problem you can try replacing Roark or SC Hilda with Nanu/Colress

[undone jay]

any gridding you want me to do? lucky skills?

[mellow linden]

Right here

Sonia and Roark’s grid needs

And make sure to get Roark to 4-stars potential at least

[undone jay]

I have enough to 5 star him

should I?

[mellow linden]

4-star is fine for now

That + the Standfast tiles will make sure he doesn’t murder himself as soon as he clicks Head Smash

[toxic cobalt]

I wonder how the maths balances out for higher damage output vs higher health

[undone jay]

any lucky skills

for any of them hilda included

[mellow linden]

None are necessary

If you need to save some gauge you can use Roark’s Trainer Move between Head Smashes a couple times

[undone jay]

oh wow

the attack output is just

sad

oh my god haha drake just gradual healed all the damage I did

[mellow linden]

Are you making sure to use Sonia’s Ruff Buff 3 times, and did you make sure Physical Damage Reduction 8 (the 100-point one) is off?

[undone jay]

let me double check

I was doing parameters for on type pre

[mellow linden]

I figured, but it’s entirely possible you clicked the wrong button by accident. Happens to everyone

[undone jay]

yeah it was on, what should I exchange it for?

[mellow linden]

Special Damage Reduction 8

[undone jay]

also battle plan, what is it?

just use ruff buff

and then attack with the other two?

[toxic cobalt]

Are you not triple queueing?

[undone jay]

keeping move gauge in mind?

of course I am.

[toxic cobalt]

Roark should use his tm once to get the gradual healing, then just attack. Sonia needs to do all the buffing and then do tackles

[mellow linden]

Pretty much. If Sonia’s Ruff Buff doesn’t get the MP Refresh then restart the fight. This is the primary type of thing you’ll reset for in CS Master Mode runs

You can use a quick Potion from Sonia if need be to give the team Move Gauge Acceleration

[undone jay]

who to sync?

hilda?

[mellow linden]

She’s fine, yeah

Syncing with her will actually help your move gauge quite a bit

Because her gauge costs decrease by 1 when her Diancie Mega Evolves

[undone jay]

I lost

got drake low but his aoe is killer

and roark killed himself

[toxic cobalt]

Classic

[mellow linden]

You could try having Roark aim a couple Head Smashes at the sides early on in the fight so they’ll go down sooner once the center is KOed

[toxic cobalt]

<-

https://youtu.be/XDw4GOXACWI?si=ng99EvNsbhSZctuW&t=865

[undone jay]

see

ok did drake

pheew

let's go kick my pet bearded dragon's ass

[mellow linden]

Alright, now you can use SST Red and Ash against Sidney

[lean lion]

Was this a 3k run with Roark emilie?

[undone jay]

nope haha

1.5

but I wanted to do 3k

cobalt steel recomended I just try 1.5

but it s ok

[mellow linden]

This important:

Do not use any Damage Reduction 8 parameters, make up the 100-point difference with Max HP 2 since Ash’s B Move will more than make up that difference

Ash + SST Red + if he’s available SS Blue should be a good setup

[undone jay]

yeah ss blue is an ex

[mellow linden]

Even better if he’s got EX

You can use Red’s Max Move directly after your 1st Sync if you’re unable to quadqueue, his Max Countdown passive will offset both that and the Max Move’s lack of Sync Countdown progression

[undone jay]

okay done

[mellow linden]

Sidney is beaten?

[undone jay]

yep.

now ssteven time

ironic

[mellow linden]

Alright, now maximum overkill time against Wallace

[undone jay]

which round parameter?

[mellow linden]

Gauge speed increase

[undone jay]

um

should I do 3k

against wallace?

[mellow linden]

Stick with 1.5k for now

You can always come back and try to bump up the points later this week

[undone jay]

the pairs I have could probably do it

true

[mellow linden]

SS Lana + SS Steven + SS Morty for gauge. The only Damage Reduction 8 parameter to use is Standard Damage Reduction 8, the same principle as Ash and SST Red when it comes to replacing Physical Damage Reduction 8 or Special Damage Reduction 8 applies (Max HP 2 to make up the point difference)

Make sure SS Steven goes Attack Forme

[undone jay]

I'm using ssbrendanex

for freevenge and free hit next

[mellow linden]

That’s fine, if gauge becomes a problem SS Morty is there as a back pocket option

[undone jay]

oh god this was overkill. haha

[mellow linden]

Overkilling the Champion is sometimes the best part of CS

Congrats on the clear!

[undone jay]

ty

[dreamy sigil]

First 1.5k mm was a success! Only fight that gave me some trouble was drake so I just ended up off typing it with my sun lion

[undone jay]

where would I get help for take on hau part 1?

[mellow linden]

#1009557516369281075

Do be aware that that EBE is even more brutal than usual, so don’t feel pressured to clear it

[lean lion]

It's okay you'll make your way up slowly. I asked cause I've been meaning to try Roark. 1.5k is very good and you'll only get better!

[undone jay]

gems lol

ynot

[wide adder]

Not all players are gonna clear ebes, especially new players

[nocturne pawn]

its tough as nails

[wide adder]

Cobalts basically saying to keep that in mind especially with haus fight

[nocturne pawn]

i have a fairly developed roster and i cant even do part 1

[nocturne pawn]

nah the real thing is that this ebe is hard as shit for no reason at all

[wide adder]

Yeah a lot of people struggling on this one esp

[nocturne pawn]

constant debuffs and confusion + paralysis with 2 passives that increase proc chance

[wide adder]

I’ve had the answer to some recent ones like this one and I still wasn’t certain at first if I’d win till I saw how good glad bmove was

[undone jay]

im not new

but ok

[main crow]

Riley fun

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/riley-riley-pokemon-lucario-trainer-sinnoh-gif-23252096

[keen jasper]

Now I wonder if he can work for Palmer

[toxic cobalt]

Why is Phoebe so strong

[undone ether]

whoa 😮

[toxic cobalt]

When this is in pins and earthquake oneshots me:

[swift swan]

she be sneaky

[formal vigil]

Debuff her attack

[swift swan]

just reset to avoid EQ

[mellow linden]

Removing the Attack buffs in some way will help, yeah