Champion Stadium

[dense birch]

Yep

Haven’t regridded him since i got him to 3/5

[hushed lintel]

Go with physical support +sun get him to mega and kill everything would be best

Imo

[dense birch]

Physical or special?

[formal vigil]

physicl because he has haymaker

[hushed lintel]

Dis

[formal vigil]

even though he has a special sync early units be like

[hushed lintel]

Yeah I am still figuring out a way to use Lance

[formal vigil]

though he can easily max his own spak with tm

[hushed lintel]

I know he does damage

It's just painful

[dense birch]

Yeah that’s why i am confused haha. I can throw him Shauna or Hop i think. One of those other teams can use Sonia

[hushed lintel]

I think I used hilbert for charizard

[dense birch]

I can do Hilbert too, that will free up SSB for another team

[hushed lintel]

And have Baines use sunny day

And you should do tons of damage

[dense birch]

I will try that out. Thanks for the suggestion

I’ll also look at regridding ss red

[spice turret]

I haven't tried Cynthia

I just need some good fairy units

[rich needle]

Le damage guard

[nocturne pawn]

i did it without changing weather but ss diantha is broken and nuked him before he could do much

[dense birch]

Yay i hit 10k for this week’s CSMM!

[hushed lintel]

Valerie (not bp) was enough for me

[grim lotus]

Ok i gridded valerie but wasn't enough anyway...

Any other team suggestions or parameters suggestion?

[zealous karma]

you pulled the clown?

[zealous karma]

There are param suggestion in pins but would it be possible for you to record your run I feel with fairy zone you should b getting much further than that in terms of cynthias Hp

[oblique stag]

Help I can't beat cynthia

[oblique stag]

Second single

[zealous karma]

Cynthia favors more physical damage dealers due to Wise entry x2

You could try sswally HoliJasmine + BPvalerie

[oblique stag]

Mawile

I don't have 4 star power ups

[zealous karma]

She doesn’t need them

[oblique stag]

Ok

What tactics order do I do

What parameters do I do

@zealous karma they get one shot by the sync

[zealous karma]

Cynthia shouldn’t be getting to her sync do you know how to quad queue?

[oblique stag]

No

How

[zealous karma]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[oblique stag]

@zealous karma but it's 6 vs 9 what do I do about that

[zealous karma]

You get 3 moves in each cycle while they only get one move in
After you sync you can require a move with the unit that just synced

[nocturne pawn]

enemies queue much slower than you do

fyi

[oblique stag]

Ok what parameters do I use

[zealous karma]

I ran this I was able@to complete the stage without SSWally so with him it should be easier

[oblique stag]

Which of the 4 choices was it

@zealous karma

[carmine sinew]

I want to take on Flint, here's my water roster. I'm thinking Nessa/Lana/Elio although idk if SS Grim is a better DPS or if May's rain might be more helpful.

Just hard CS btw

[nocturne pawn]

rain boosted kris or nessa can easily shred it

[zealous karma]

The round 4 param of sync buffs are more effective

[carmine sinew]

Awesome thank you

[oblique stag]

Ok thanks for all the help

[nocturne pawn]

actually id probably use kris

since she has a really strong grid

[undone ether]

Hmm. Cynthia (5) and SC Lyra for Aaron.
SS Kris and NC Serena for Flint.
And SS Morty with Zerena against enemy Cynthia.

Problem will probably will be against Bertha ... Ugh hopefully Solgaleo can toughen up for presync

[lean lion]

Nicely done!

[dense birch]

Ty haha

[spice turret]

I was ping

[cedar flume]

What is vespiquens deal? I haven’t even got her to yellow, shes healing like 40k and taking no damage from special attks. I feel like i cant get my buffs out fast enough and ofc her sync nukes me

[keen jasper]

Aaron uses Heal Order before his 1st sync, that's why everyone worries about electric-weak Aaron

[formal vigil]

You can flinch it with volkner

[keen jasper]

If you want to prevent Heal Order, you must either flinch it or pray it paralyzes

[zealous karma]

You really want to flinch the heal order

[formal vigil]

Try using hau volkner then any spak crit buffer

[zealous karma]

As for params I would probably take like standard damage reduction 8 and phys damage reduction 8 as Volkner doesn’t do that much damage anyways he’ll be doing even less against sentry entry x2

I’d avoid taking hp params and take less strength on this stage in particular

[silver dirge]

Can you show us your actual parameters & the team you're using?

[cedar flume]

Here is both. i feel like ive been abit lost since 3k became a thing parameter wise. I use calem for instant +3 crit and +2 special attk so i can discharge faster but sync will just kill me. not sure if i can even clear in 1 sync

[manic kiln]

don't pick def and max sync countdown, but other than that parameters are fine

just need to flinch healing order then sync with hau to clear, make sure you max his multiplier/stats and terrain is up

[zealous karma]

I’d use a different support than Calem as he buffs a little bit too slowly but that’s also because hau is a slow@self buffer

[cedar flume]

Yes this is helping me get closer atleast, i always thought those first couple parameters were kinda mandatory but ima mess around with it

[vast dome]

This team shpuldn't be good

[old orchid]

that team suffers from gauge

replace Hop with a good gauge support

and level up Valerie to 120/125

[vast dome]

OK then

good gaufe supports like ss blue?

[old orchid]

yes he should work

with a sturdy tank like him you can use a defense debuffer/Fairy Zone unit to improve Valerie's damage

[keen jasper]

Replace Bede for SS Wally or egg Sylveon

[vast dome]

I have neither

[keen jasper]

No egg Sylveon form the November 2023 event?

[vast dome]

Nope

got unlucky

[neat galleon]

If asking for help in Champ Stadium, do I just post my medal info and box?

[keen jasper]

Yes and no

[silver dirge]

Yes to those two. But also make some teams for each stage first & we'll give you feedback on them

[neat galleon]

Ok and I shouldn't use mono teams right?

Should the striker and support match the weaknesses or just one of them?

[silver dirge]

That would be quite counter-productive, your aim is to get as many types in as possible. Support typing doesn't matter, just choose an on-type damage dealer and any relevant support to help set it up

3rd can be a filler type or someone who helps sets up mutilpliers, or increases damage via defensive debuffs or weather/terrain/zone

[neat galleon]

Gotcha, I'll get to it and report back later 👍 Thank you

[silver dirge]

Np! Good luck

[dark osprey]

Honestly feel that the Hau pre sync Aaron clear is kinda difficult if not on the fourth round. Was able to with Redlax & Volkner but that too was kinda tight.
I guess the second round is also better for a hau clear so as to get rid of the enemy sync quickly for a post sync clear.
If not on the first or fourth round, prefer a partially post sync clear with ss blue and Lucian. I guess Clemont is probably better for post sync

[neat galleon]

This is my first time doing hard mode, does this team look ok for Lucian?

I have Aura Cynthia, NC Rosa, and Iono, but I figured I'd save them for one of the other stages

[dense birch]

Lucian has Wise Entry x2 (x2 Sp Def at start of battle), which can't be removed, best to off type with a physical unit unless you have a physical ghost unit

[old orchid]

Kiawe is not a good choice for spatk buffing to start with

[keen jasper]

It's hard mode anyways, so no big deal if they use a Sp. Atk. unit

[old orchid]

Giovanni can brute force Lucian just fine

[neat galleon]

These are my other ghost types

[keen jasper]

Yeah, Giovanni will do just fine

[old orchid]

Better changing your support

[neat galleon]

Ok, should I change Kiawe? I'll change Cheren, I didn't know Wise Entry couldn't be removed

[old orchid]

Replace him with Cheryl

Replace Cheren I mean ^

[formal vigil]

You can't remove wise entry x2 since effect their base physical defence stat not a visible buff

[neat galleon]

Is NC Rosa fine instead of Cheren?

[keen jasper]

Oh she is infinitely better

But I think you should save her

Not sure

[neat galleon]

I also have Leaf and Eevee

[keen jasper]

What move level? NC Rosa and Leaf?

[neat galleon]

1/5 Rosa, 3/5 Leaf

Also have Hop from legendary adventures

[old orchid]

I would save Leaf for another team

She isnt a good support for Giovanni

[neat galleon]

Ok what about Cynthia or Iono?

[old orchid]

Base Cynthia?

[neat galleon]

Sorry, Aura Cynthia

[old orchid]

Or Lucario one

Look for spatk support for Giovanni, preferably who can max spatk for him

[neat galleon]

I only have these for Sp. Atk up

Rosa & Snivy raise by 4 total

[toxic cobalt]

Please max out Rosa

You can use her, Roxanne also great

Sabrina will be fine too

[neat galleon]

Max out Rosa and Snivy?

[toxic cobalt]

Her should be free

[neat galleon]

Ok gotcha, I'll get on it 👍

[toxic cobalt]

Check the bingo

But in the meantime pick Sabrina Rosa or Roxanne

[rose ermine]

Is 4.2k csmm with very less sync pairs

And 1 ex

[neat galleon]

I had to use NC Rosa instead of Roxanne to beat Lucian. Is that okay?

[old orchid]

its okay, you dont have to strictly aim for 15 types in the first week

9 - 12 types registered into medal is good enough

[old orchid]

with a decent roster and skill thats not a problem

850 pts per stage doesnt change much difficulty from non MM

[neat galleon]

Is this team okay for Bertha?

[old orchid]

you need a weather changer

and Brendan demands Dauntless lucky skill

[silver dirge]

Replace Courtney with Blaine

[neat galleon]

Is Blaine still fine if I already have a fire medal in progress?

[neat galleon]

If I get unlucky getting dauntless on Brendan, are any of these grass types fine to substitute with him?

[old orchid]

how about Ice type?

i see Mallow, but she demands atk support

Selene is also a good choice because she can buff necessary stats

but evolve Rowlet first

[old orchid]

no need to ping me btw

Candice has Hail

[neat galleon]

Gotcha I'll throw her in

Should I gamble for Dauntless on Brendan or should I go with Selene/Mallow instead?

[old orchid]

I would try rolling for Dauntless on Brendan first

[neat galleon]

Woo! Finally got it down with Brendan, Skyla, and Candice!

Will this team work for Flint?

[old orchid]

they should, tho i would plan other teams first before going

you might need Iono in another team

or SS Blue

[neat galleon]

Ok should I build a team for Aaron first?

I have sst red for him

[old orchid]

you would want a special dmg dealer for Aaron, because he has double base defense

SST Red can probably brute force through it but Aaron's Heal Order + high bulk might ruin the plan

[neat galleon]

Would this work? Paralyzing with Colress?

These are all my other electric types

[old orchid]

that team has little sustain and ROxanne isnt a good tank

i want to suggest Clemont, SST Red and Iono but you have to focus on filling the type medal first

how about offtype dmg dealers?

[neat galleon]

I sorted by tech & striker for types I don't have a medal for yet

[old orchid]

Karen seems like a good option

try Iono + Karen + SST Red

[neat galleon]

Thought I'd give it a try with Roxanne and I was able to do it! Red carried me pretty hard lol

Just got Flint now with these medals left

[old orchid]

thats good to hear!

can you grid Cyrus atm? with Ramming Speed and Critical Focus he doesnt require much buffs

and his EX and power boost are coming in the few days, so you should invest on him asap

[neat galleon]

Gotcha! I have 33,560 orbs and haven't grid any of my MFs yet, so is it fine to grid him?

[old orchid]

yes ofc

you cant never go wrong with him

also, MFs shouldnt be prioritizes

grid who have useful tiles / who you will need

[neat galleon]

Awesome, I'll grid him now! Should I use one of the grids posted in the grid channels?

[old orchid]

yes, use the one with two tiles i mentioned earlier

[neat galleon]

Ok I grid him with Crit Focus & Ramming Speed 👍

Does this look okay for Flint? I'll still have Aura Cynthia, Xerneas, and Hop to use for Cynthia

[old orchid]

have you planned for Cynthia's stage? Leaf might be useful there

[neat galleon]

I haven't. I was thinking maybe Xerneas, Aura Cynthia, and Katherine maybe? These are all my fairy types

[old orchid]

enemy Cynthia has accuracy debuff on your team, so its better moving Leaf there

[neat galleon]

For the medals I have left, I have these as some strong options:
Normal - Leaf
Fighting - Aura Cynthia
Water - SS Blue
Dragon - Palkia
Fairy - Xerneas

[rich needle]

Xerneas can solo with horn leach?

Or no grid

[neat galleon]

I haven't grid him yet, but I can

[rich needle]

Gakon can xerneas just do it with lillie

Cuz then they can use leaf wherever

[old orchid]

type overlap tho

tho i think its fine

Lillie + Sycamore + Hop should work

[neat galleon]

Gotcha, I can also try an off type dps instead of Lillie if it's possible to solo with Xerneas 👍

For Flint, definitely using at least Cyrus and SS Blue right?

[old orchid]

Lillie is there for accuracy buffs, Cynthia is scary if you miss too many moves

[old orchid]

yeah this core should work with a filler for the medal

[neat galleon]

Would any of these serve as a decent filler?

If I can use one of these, I'll still have Leaf, Hop, and Aura Cynthia as options for Cynthia

[old orchid]

you will probably use Ground type next week, so maybe use Lucy as the filler

[rich needle]

Ah I remember using leaf and ssblue when I was smoll

Brings back memories

[old orchid]

trust me i ran many questionable teams before

[rich needle]

I wouldn’t say that one is questionable it’s more just completely overkill

[neat galleon]

Phew, okay I had to use a Sp Atk lowering bug type for filler since ss blue was dying too quickly but I got him down!

This is showing up for the Cynthia fight, not sure what to do here

[old orchid]

plan your team first, then read these parameters carefully to see which benefits your team the most

accuracy buffer is recommended because Cynthia debuffs acc and raises evasiveness, and the debuffs are stronger thanks to the R5 parameter

[neat galleon]

I was thinking of trying Sycamore, Leaf, and Hop if Sycamore could dps her down

[old orchid]

he should

sync with Leaf twice for enough accuracy to make sure enemies dont dodge your moves

[neat galleon]

Would Lillie, Leaf, and Hop be better to help with accuracy?

[old orchid]

if you want to use Lillie, better replacing Leaf with her

[old orchid]

this team is slow at taking down Cynthia, it works but time consuming

[rich needle]

There’s no need to use lillie if you’re using leaf but it is more convenient

[neat galleon]

Ok, I'll try Sycamore, Hop, and Leaf to see how it goes!

Would I still play Sycamore at the 1 spot?

[rich needle]

Ye

[vast dome]

When I wake up, it'll be 2 more hours to complete this week's stadium

And I've yet to finish

Team of SS Blue, BP Valerie and Bede. I don't have SS Wally or Sylveon egg.

And BP Valerie isn't 5/5 or level 125 yet

[old orchid]

Valerie doesnt need 5/5, and lvl 120 is fine

you should replace Bede with a defense debuffer

[vast dome]

Like Colress

But I think I've already used him

[old orchid]

also, what makes you keep failing? missing too many moves or something?

Nanu, Kukui,... etc

we have a lot of defense debuffers

[vast dome]

How I set things up I reckon

Kukui should be fine

[neat galleon]

WOOOO! SHE'S DOWN! THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP ❤️

[silver dirge]

Nicely done!

[versed meteor]

Brendan Leaf storm with support ex in grassy terrain + sun, 17k
Without sun and terrain 8k

[quartz vine]

Didn't knew Xerneas could take on Max hp bertha

I failed this stage trying so many times with Brendan & sceptile and silver & ho-oh

in the end Xerneas did it :) no need for ang strike sync pair

[north crown]

You're already doing much better than most players, considering that you looked into the type medal (objective) first.

nice job with the 14/18

[trail smelt]

Bertha gonna give me the most trouble this week I can feel it lol

[north crown]

SSErika:

[trail smelt]

Not this week

Steel weak

[north crown]

Solgaleo:

[undone ether]

God. I hate bertha ;-;

[rotund lagoon]

Wait why does both SC Steven and Pal Marnie need to be there, why not just Marnie

[mellow linden]

I’d personally recommend replacing one or the other with a tank, yeah

I’d also recommend a more dedicated Sp. Atk. + crit Support on the Lucian team so A. Skyla can properly Sync nuke from 2nd Sync onwards (Blue + Pidgeot obviously takes 1st Sync)

[zealous karma]

I think its a fine team ignoriing the gauge

whatever makes it clear faster

[dark osprey]

Solgaleo gridded for endurance and power reserves would be nice to hopefully one shot Bertha

[zealous karma]

he is wek to ground so e

[paper summit]

that's what the Endure is for

no

[old orchid]

sides have Wise Entry x3, mid doesnt have any entry bs

use Solgaleo then

[zealous karma]

the crit earthquake into sandstorm chip true combo totally not speaking frome experiencxe

[paper summit]

it'll be fiiiiine, HS1 is the real deal there anyway

[zealous karma]

this is why we bring nemona for flinch

[paper summit]

I might use NC Rosa tbh

[zealous karma]

Im just memeing on sol lel I know he can probably just one shot with first sync

[old orchid]

he is Psychic weak

based support choice

[cedar fable]

what does the interference immunity do?

[unkempt lake]

I cannot kill Cynthia 3k master mode 💀 never struggled like this in a long time lol

[old orchid]

what team and parameters are you using

[undone ether]

i ran them fine last time 3k; so i'm hoping for a decent round parameter this week.

(presync i mean)

[undone ether]

Anni Skyla is 1/5 only, so its all for Blue/Pidgeot to oneshot with Sync + Hurricane in Presync Conditions

but yeah, if Solgaleo doesnt cut it, i can also run SS Giovanni (4)

likely going to be Sonia/SS Gio (4) and Pal Marnie

[rotund lagoon]

I’m assuming yours is EX’d and PB’d, he should more than cut it.

[dark osprey]

Solgaleo does have the ground weak thing against them, that's why probably endurance.

For the head start thing, can skip a turn post EX support adrenaline sync plus denial on the left

But that does give Bertha an extra chance to earthquake

SS Gio seems easier. Can get in the max nuke before Bertha sync

[rose ermine]

Would it work for 4.2k mm

[old orchid]

Aaron team looks slow

[rose ermine]

Mga from colress and a prayer tbh

[old orchid]

whats move level is Bertha?

[rose ermine]

1/5

[old orchid]

better offtyping then

the rest looks fine

[rose ermine]

Would it work?

[old orchid]

should be

[wicked pebble]

Need something better for the ghost team, it isn't working.

Can't beat sync and die to sync buffs after it.

[versed mural]

2hrs left till nightmare

[wicked pebble]

Don't have any physical ghost options, pretty sure.

Maybe Morty but I don't think I wanna rely on Phantom Force.

So... offtype, I guess?

[old orchid]

you have better result with Fantina if you want to be ontype

yeah offtype might be the better option

[manic mica]

i used both- morty and ss cynthia with sableye

[undone ether]

yeah. guess we'll find out in less than 2hrs :D~

[wicked pebble]

SS Red, maybe?

[manic mica]

i made morty to be attacked 3rd, eh it has its own risks to live with phantom moves

[wicked pebble]

For offtype. Can pair him with Morty.

[old orchid]

no, SS Red uses special moves

Lucian has Wise Entry x2

[wicked pebble]

I'll just use redchu.

...why does Redchu do zero damage?

[old orchid]

parameter issue

[wicked pebble]

I eventually got through, thankfully.

...now Cynthia is ruining me.

I can't on type since Diantha is hot garbage.

[old orchid]

use BP Valerie

[wicked pebble]

And I can off type since no one does enough damage. Freaking NC Red wasn't able to do anything with Ice Zone and Hail.

[old orchid]

you should read the gimmicks before playing the stage

Cynthia has Wise Entry x2

[wicked pebble]

Does everyone freaking have that?

[old orchid]

half of Sinnoh have entry x2 gimmicks

should have known by reading first

[wicked pebble]

Most of my good strikers are freaking special...

[old orchid]

you are ignoring the legit good ontype striker

[vast dome]

BP Valerie is made of glass

[old orchid]

try to pre sync Cynthia

which is not really hard

[vast dome]

I was thinking of presyncing Cynthia again

Should I keep SS Blue?

[old orchid]

that team should be able to pre sync with Adrenaline gridded on Blue and Staggering on Kukui

you dont have a Fairy Zone setter, do you?

[wicked pebble]

There, done.

Couldn't beat sync but barely survived.

[vast dome]

Once again, no

I have Vaporeon, Flareon, Espeon and Leafeon

I lack the others

With their Fairy Zones and their Electric Terrains and their Dark Zones and their Blizzardses

[dark osprey]

Hopefully you're taking the fourth parameter

[old orchid]

Ah, just to confirm

I feel like Leaf is more useful because of accuracy buffs on sync

She has Adrenaline, TM Critical Squad and Berserker Bunch to help buffing Valerie

And spdef buffs for allies on TM

[toxic cobalt]

Highly recommend not trying to punch through wise entry pain

[paper summit]

you don't even have her level maxed? what do you not hoard in this game?!

[vast dome]

So SS Blue, Leaf and BP Valerie

[dark osprey]

Leaf, Val and Kukui was suggested

[vast dome]

Oh OK

[dark osprey]

Heading to reset so hopefully works

[vast dome]

So pre-sync with Leaf, BP Valerie and Kukui, right?

[dark osprey]

Yes. Hopefully Val gridded properly and use TM before sync nuke for her

[vast dome]

I did not

I think EXing BP Valerie helps a lot

[dark osprey]

So as to get the super preparation

No need to EX or even 5* tbh

[quartz vine]

This team can do it but 1 in 20-30 times...
I also did it with the same team

[vast dome]

Sync nuke Double Down or On a Roll?

[dark osprey]

Sync nuke

[vast dome]

I gridded sync nuke

[dark osprey]

TM has super preparation so use it before sync

And the sync enhancing parameter

[vast dome]

I can't do it at 1900 points

Maybe at 1400 points

[old orchid]

That team can clear 3k pre sync

[vast dome]

I'm abandoning my run

[old orchid]

Are your params good for the team?

[vast dome]

Gotta leave before reset

I give up

I can't do it

[old orchid]

[vast dome]

Sorry

I was unprepared for Cynthia this week

[unkempt lake]

Oops I always play max HP parameters. I finally set up a 3000 point offensive parameter and won easily with SS Mina, Summer Gloria, and NY Lisia even with a supp EX sync from Fini. I have 5/5 Tapu Fini but 1/5 Grim and Rapidash. So I did not have near enough dmg for max HP.

[old orchid]

At least you won

[vast dome]

it my fault

I did it but at fewer results

Same as my exam results, whoch came out today

[undone ether]

R1 Physical Damage reduction Field Entry
R2 Stat Lowering Effects greater
R3 Additional Effects of Moves
R4 Special Attack Up
R5 Infinite Field Effects

[vast dome]

I will do better next time

Better experience failure now than when you're older

[vast dome]

A mantra I will live by

[swift swan]

updated

[old orchid]

ty Nov

[swift swan]

W params

[old orchid]

Woo banger params

[silver dirge]

Where is half sync

[swift swan]

perma field effects on dragon weak

I wonder if I can do my silly theme clears this week (no I can't)

[old orchid]

Don't disappoint me

[vast dome]

I won't disappoint you ever again

Reminds me of a certain trainer in the game

[old orchid]

That was not to you I was talking to nov

[main crow]

Debuff parameter 👀

[swift swan]

I will

[steel kelp]

Perma dragon field effects nc nate

[undone ether]

Hell yeah! 54k crit on Bertha D:<
(Somehow hit 20k on 1 run)

For some reason she kept flinching SC Steven (the side too) orz

[swift swan]

head start bertha i hate you so much

[grave wyvern]

Keep your wits about you

[swift swan]

why don't you keep these hands

[old orchid]

[grand trout]

Does gallade have wise entry x2?

[swift swan]

no

[trail smelt]

lol Steven killed Bertha easy

[main crow]

Just realized that 3 out of 5 really wants weather effect active huh 😭

[trail smelt]

Of course his true test will come with Glacia

With her goddamn Sentry Entry x2

[main crow]

Nightmare rotation

[toxic cobalt]

Hard part done

[silver dirge]

Just bring your own accel smh, or flinch her to death

[main crow]

Fym Bertha ez

[undone ether]

3/5 steven? 😮

[main crow]

The hard part is me trying to decide which weather setter should go where 😭

[silver dirge]

Sinnoh & their weather setters

[undone ether]

for my runs, Aaron gets Bertha + Cynthia
For Flint, Ingo
And for Cynthia, SS Morty o/

[main crow]

Aaron wants weather
Flint also wants weather
Lucian not really but SS Ethan wants rain

And Cynthia also wants a different weather lmao

[silver dirge]

Is clear advantage specifically weather? Can't be WTZ?

[main crow]

Aaron has clear sync up

[silver dirge]

Oh

He has Clear power up 5 too

[main crow]

Wait I never realized he has acute sense

[lean lion]

2nd week in CSMM? I don't have to worry about types and stuff anymore yeah? Just go in and clear with my best teams?

[silver dirge]

I managed to clear without weather though, it's not too bad

[silver dirge]

Prolli cos grad healing disables it

[undone ether]

yesh D:
Bertha checks him tbh.

[swift swan]

got turned off by gradual healing, no biggie

[main crow]

[silver dirge]

Have you done the medal?

[swift swan]

since he's just powered up without any WTZ, there's no damage reduction

[main crow]

Yeah true and SS gio wipes easy

[manic kiln]

Easy week overall, budget teams still work for me
Headstart bertha caught me off guard tho

[silver dirge]

Right

[swift swan]

if your tank is good then clear power up isn't noticeable

[silver dirge]

[lean lion]

Yeah, last week. This is my 2nd time in CSMM

[main crow]

Time for kid named Sonia :

[silver dirge]

Yeah don't gotta worry about types then

[lean lion]

Nice

[trail smelt]

Yep lol

Real MVP is Colress honestly

-6 defense let’s Steven nuke and hit harder

[undone ether]

ah wells, my Steven is 2/5... can't be helped xd

[trail smelt]

Plus lucky flinches

[undone ether]

oh for me i ran SC Steven + PalMarnie with Solgaleo

had to reset a bit just so i get better move queue by Bertha

like Stomp not flinching / Bite not flinching (that side one)

[trail smelt]

Yeah if Bertha syncs that’s a dead Colress lol

[manic kiln]

Bertha opening with earthquake

[trail smelt]

If she crits I mean

[undone ether]

surprisingly, easy enough o-o

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[undone ether]

she eq'd first

and then just stacked buffs for her sync

[silver dirge]

Blue & Zapdos look a lil different there in the Kanto team

[lean lion]

If I'm running Blue Pidgeot, do I give I'm first sync for mega or ex support sync first?

[manic kiln]

And uses earthquake a 2nd time, dead solgaleo and colress

[undone ether]

kek yeah. so its really on your RNG/luck

i figured my sync wouldn't kill

[trail smelt]

He’s a bit under the weather

[undone ether]

i was mashing Sunsteel Strike ;-;

[manic kiln]

Full hp

Haven’t used grimsley in ages

But headstart is annoying so

[swift swan]

wow even doing a monotype challenge is giving me hell

granted it's because of my roster

[versed mural]

Ok first one down wasn't hard(replaced may since she was eating too much gauge and not doing DMG)

[manic kiln]

My monotype budget teams still work, need a few resets tho

[rose ermine]

I hate hard lv1 so much

I've reset 25 times on aaron

Because I have no choice but to bring fucking Bertha and melony

SALAZZLE YOU LITTLE SHIT STOP KILLING MY HOP

THIS IS THE 17TH TIME YOUVE DONE THIS

[dense birch]

CS does feel like reset central

crit fishing, flinch procs. LOL

[grand trout]

Im so fucking lucky

Raihan didnt crit on all 3 of all the opponents 🫠

[old orchid]

That team is screaming for gauge

[dense birch]

took me about 20 resets on lucian just for SS Red to crit 3 guys and for Hilbert to flinch Lucian

[cold kestrel]

I really love having three stone edge misses in a row!

[cedar flume]

Ground and Dragon in the same week when zygarde is my goat for both

[rose ermine]

My lungs are also screaming

[manic kiln]

Presync Sandless Olivia just flinch all the dangerous moves

[rose ermine]

But I'm forced to use these useless units

Otherwise no mm

[keen jasper]

Time to use sentient diamond princess

[swift swan]

Flint stop spamming flare blitz challenge

[rose ermine]

YESS

[dense birch]

Bertha pls stop spam EQ

[rose ermine]

How the fuck do i fit poison or ghost into this

[undone ether]

both of them? 😮

[dense birch]

2 unit one of them

[manic kiln]

poison stall, support like bp morty... or just use them as a filler in 1 of your strong team

[grave wyvern]

Zerena will be taking Ground

Which means

[rose ermine]

No bp morty

My only poison unit is janine

[versed mural]

Bertha done wasn't hard aswell

[main crow]

Forgot I have poison zone now, can't wait to see how much Oleana hits next week

[undone ether]

my next week teams

[cold kestrel]

Maybe I’ll attempt master mode

[cedar flume]

Anyone use bertha as a tank?

[manic kiln]

yes

[cedar flume]

ok you convinced me

[undone ether]

she's tanky enough 😮

[versed mural]

Lucian done...

[manic kiln]

because there's no f2p ground support
as long as you keep sand up she should be ok, with max def buffs too

[rose ermine]

Who should I use to offtype flint lv1

It needs to be 2 members+a ghost type

[north crown]

use use spatk support, SSEthan, Lucian ez

[north crown]

why is blue used?

[rose ermine]

Lucian

Oh mb I meant flint

I need to offtype flint

[north crown]

u completed sinnoh type medal yet? if not, can u show me it?

[cold kestrel]

Could I attempt master mode with these teams?

[versed mural]

All E4 members done (Thank you Nitsua! Time for Cynthia)

[rose ermine]

Fighting is covered by SSAC for cynthia team

No fucking clue what to do for ghost

[north crown]

acerola spam flinch

[north crown]

depensd on how many points you want

[cold kestrel]

Ground type is lacking so I’m going to try and brute force it with adaman

[cold kestrel]

What’s a decent amount to aim for? I know I won’t be able to get max

[north crown]

850 per round is usually a good starting point

[rose ermine]

I don't have acerola

[north crown]

what are you smoking?!??!1 she's a story unit.

[rose ermine]

I am in epilogue 1💀

[north crown]

bro just clear it up story is stupidly easy

[rose ermine]

Ik

But it is very long

And main prob is uhh

I have no mats

So acerola needs to be able to take hits at level 1

[silver dirge]

You'll want some of the story pairs like Skyla to smooth through CS

[rose ermine]

I got Skyla up ready for csmm

But 1/5

[north crown]

SSTRed can probably solo with meatshields + it's not like you have NO option; you got plenty of leveled up pairs to choose from.

[cold kestrel]

Isn’t there like a thing for the recommended options to choose?

[versed mural]

I FINALLY DID IT (easiest Cynthia fight btw) my medal is complete and I have MM (again thank you alot Nitsua! )

And also thank you to Maylene for living 4 hits on bertha

[rose ermine]

Can this do it

[versed mural]

I'm not attempting MM now will do when I'm free later

[grand trout]

What ghost supports do you have

[north crown]

for story or for CSHM, cuz if for CSHM, SSTRed should be able to solo regardless. (tho for countering Flint, you need weather setter that's NOT sun)

[grand trout]

I think that's for medal

They need a ghost and poison

[north crown]

https://tenor.com/view/take-your-time-persona-five-gif-8701705

[grand trout]

I used cbede rose and raihan for bertha

I know it sounds gauge intensive, so i am actually surprised i cleared it

Thank god for free moves

[north crown]

what the hell..? ik CBede can carry gauge, but to that extent?!?!

[grand trout]

Yeah im surprised too lol

[silver dirge]

Rose would also clear it fast enough, before gauges start to become an issue

[grand trout]

That too

[versed meteor]

Solgaleo about to get wrecked by Bertha

[rose ermine]

Done

[north crown]

wtf SSTRed brute force through Flint's sun boosted moves?!?!?

[grand trout]

It's just hard

Not mastee

[versed meteor]

another r5 field effect week

[north crown]

man ig I forgot how difficult hard mode is..

[rose ermine]

Can't believe I have access to sinnoh csmm within 8 days of making this account

So how difficult is 850 pts cs?

[north crown]

Another week to traumatize Cynthia the way she did to every 10 year old on D/P's release

[trail smelt]

Well technically there’s Nita haha

[north crown]

a joke if you pick options that don't affect your strategy whatsoever

[manic kiln]

yeah i forgot, also haven't used her in a long time, 1/5 is not that good

[versed meteor]

Steel type not ground weak impossible challenge

[north crown]

Really good for Cynthia and Olivia in CSMM

[grand trout]

Oh no! I Cant ex Ariana in time for next week!

[rose ermine]

Cshm gems gave me dead multi on iono

[grand trout]

What a shame

[rose ermine]

Very sad

[manic kiln]

talking about Nita tho, not bertha

[north crown]

exactly

She's really good for buffing +4 atk and speed on turn 1, buffs they both appreciate. If you have them EXed, fly synergizes well with them; you can use fly on turn 3, and have it land before the striker's EX sync to deny sides.

[dense birch]

is there any way to extend the duration of Acerola's sandstorm? kind of sucks if i open with it, it's gone by the time i sync with olivia

[north crown]

use it as the third turn on turn 1, and only use TMs/quick moves

[dense birch]

i'm doing the former, but not the latter. been using 1 rock throw and 1 spike shield

[formal vigil]

You can only extend it if you have Paulo or 4/5 Cynthia

[north crown]

.. spike shield? really?

[dense birch]

yeah otherwise my shauna dies to flare blitz...

[north crown]

don't use Shauna then

either that or flinch their moves in the first sync cycle

[dense birch]

well what i'm doing is

hard as diamonds > spike shield > sandstorm
x attack > off we go > x defense
rock throw > off we go > (if i don't use sandstorm here, it disappears when olivia syncs. otherwise ideally i wanted to use x defense here)

i'm using shauna for atk/crit buff

hop is already used on bertha

[north crown]

you know what you should try?

HaD, TM, Ast. flinch
Olivia, S.Shield

take 0 damage

[dense birch]

oh hmmm. let me try that. save scum until i get that flinch proc lol

[north crown]

don't forget to pick up ast. aggro 1 on her grid

[dense birch]

yeah

ty, got it

[manic mica]

Me looking at type weaknesses for this week's CSMM:

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-discord-lmao-lol-reading-gif-20759779

Like

Why does flying weak have to be Lucian

[verbal karma]

I dunno who to pick for R3 this week: Flint or Lucian?

[keen jasper]

Do you want Flint to burn you easier?

[cold kestrel]

What options do I choose for mm? I’ve tried to just choose randomly until I reach 800 points

[dark osprey]

Can check the pins. They have sets for the minimum parameters

[cold kestrel]

The 2500 one?

[manic kiln]

i did flint r3 just flinch him

[dark osprey]

In master mode presets there's a spreadsheet with a tab for 850 pts

[cold kestrel]

So do I put the same settings for every tab?

[silver dirge]

The tabs are just presets

[cold kestrel]

Oh alright

[silver dirge]

The tab you're on are the parameters that apply in battle

[rose ermine]

We do a little trolling

[dense birch]

today i learnt defog doesn't remove weather

haha

[versed meteor]

Quite annoying innit

[dense birch]

yeah

yay 10k done for the week. took a lot of resets but we finally got there

[cold kestrel]

Should I try and get more?

[old orchid]

Thats up to you

[silver dirge]

You've covered the crucial rewards but if you want to get those EX units quicker you can aim higher

[royal flicker]

Is my team enougj for 2.5k? On type post

[old orchid]

replace SS Blue with another support

both Blue fight for first sync

[royal flicker]

I tried this first but dmg isnt enough.

[versed meteor]

Love sinnoh one moment you are having a manageable run the next they have one stupid passive

Clear sync up 5 tf

[old orchid]

you would get the same result with SS Blue

what parameters are you using?

[royal flicker]

The on type post sync

[old orchid]

you should take off Tech x3 damage (since you are using Lucian) and Atk up 1

and pick Power on Hit 1

that team also doesnt use field effect, so pick no field effect param as well

and take some strength params off

[royal flicker]

I did what you said and I got 1.9k points, I remove strength 6.

I think this is my max for this team now.

[old orchid]

that team can def do 3k pts

wait this is 2.5k

[royal flicker]

Really?

[old orchid]

3k might need EX investment

[cold kestrel]

How would these teams be for next week?

Don’t have any good poison types so I’ll have to off type again

Wait I have a 2/5 looker

[old orchid]

2/5 Looker is whatever

[cold kestrel]

Not sure how that would compare to an off type adaman

[old orchid]

for poison weak stages stalling is very easy

is this hard mode or 3k MM?

[cold kestrel]

How do I poison stall? Haven’t done it before

[cold kestrel]

3k mm

[old orchid]

you bring a good tank + poison and trap inflictor, then watch everything die of poison

Team 4 and 5 need some improvement

[lean lion]

Any solution to Solgaleo being weak to most of Bertha's attacks? She's holding my overall score back cause too much damage even with no damage parameters.

[cold kestrel]

For the damage dealers or supports?

Because I’m kinda lacking in those types

[old orchid]

lets start with Team 5 first

hmm look like your Dark roster is pretty dire

is that 2/5 Sidney

[cold kestrel]

Yes

[old orchid]

do you happen to have Nessa?

[cinder summit]

Nessa & Drednaw

Acquisition:

General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Galar)

Alternates:

Nessa (Holiday 2021) & Eiscue

[old orchid]

Sidney really needs someone to dps

[cold kestrel]

Yes 3/5

[old orchid]

and Nessa happens to have good dps with Jaw Lock

okay, could you show your support roster?

[dense birch]

i had to keep scumming until she didn't spam EQ as much

she has high horsepower and stomp as her other moves

pray stomp doesn't flinch your tank

[lean lion]

So annoying. I did clear it but idk about going past 1.5k on her.

[old orchid]

Aaron + Sidney + Nessa should work, try to deny the left side so you have a chance to pre sync

[cold kestrel]

Alright

[old orchid]

about team 4, Flint demands a weather changer

[cold kestrel]

So I just kill the left mon first?

[old orchid]

when it is about to use a move

thats called side denial technique

[cold kestrel]

Alright

[old orchid]

i would move Skyla to Team 3, and move Iono to team 4

Giovanni demands spatk support

[dense birch]

I did this team for 2k

[old orchid]

the last spot is for a weather changer

[dense birch]

can't remember what i picked though. i think you have to drop strength up 1, for like no interference + no status instead or something

colress turbo to -6 def, then solgaleo sync

[old orchid]

wait mb, Psychic weak Flint doesnt have weather gimmick

so use Bianca there

[cold kestrel]

Alright

[lean lion]

Mc Solgaleo isn't ex for me unfortunately

[dense birch]

ah

then probs best to use someone else

[old orchid]

so
Team 3: Skyla/Irida/BP Candice
Team 4: Iono/Giovanni/Bianca
Team 5: Aaron/Nessa/Sidney

[lean lion]

I can try and off type it with Red and build a separate team for Flint

[cold kestrel]

So I make a poison stall team for the last fight then?

[old orchid]

poison stalling on a poison weak stage is piss easy

but dont ignore accessible Poison types, Koga and Roxie are good

[cold kestrel]

I think sonia might be my best tank

[old orchid]

Cynthia uses special moves only tho

and Sonia leans towards an offensive support

[cold kestrel]

Alright

[old orchid]

your best defensive tank is Leaf, followed by BP Morty when you raise him to 3/5

[cold kestrel]

So I’ll put leaf then

I also bring a Pokémon to trap the other team right?

[old orchid]

Cynthia is very dangerous if you go post sync (evasion + spatk up whenever she dodges a move), so better bringing someone to debuff her offensive stats

yeah trap will help a lot

you can bring Leaf + Lucy (who has both badly poison and trap) + Janine (who debuffs atk/spatk/speed at once)

[cold kestrel]

Alright

Do I need to grid any of them?

[old orchid]

Leaf needs full grid for healing, while the other two dont need grid

[cold kestrel]

Got it

[old orchid]

tho Hostile Environment tile on Lucy guarantees the chance of inflicting poison

[rose ermine]

R3 or R4 flint

Flint has winona

So she could abuse flinch

[old orchid]

who is the last E4 you havent faced against?

and what team are you planning to use?

[rose ermine]

Flint-Winona,Cyrus,SSBlue EX
Lucian-Lucian,Blue,NCRosa

[old orchid]

Flint on R3 then

R4 benefits Blue

[rose ermine]

Cyrus gotta be my fave unit

5 hydro pump miss

In a row

[grave wyvern]

Wikstrom constantly being one move away from pre-syncing Bertha is my villain origin story

[plush tangle]

HS1 bertha

she sucks

[grave wyvern]

I wish I could take that skill away from her

[brave halo]

OK seriously is there anyone I am meant to use against Bertha cause she is flat out not meant to lose

I can't even off type with nc red that's how impossible she is

[grave wyvern]

KINGSTROM GAMING

[verbal karma]

okay, that answers my question, thanks

[silver dirge]

Aegislash my beloved

[silver dirge]

This is definitely a parameter issue, he's even got the denial to mitigate her HS1

[brave halo]

Doesn't feel like it, he just isn't able to beat this stage

[silver dirge]

The sides do have WE x3 but I doubt that's the problem for now?

I offtyped with much less premium pairs, it's definitely possible

[brave halo]

That also doesn't worth cause she still will live regardless and hit super hard

[silver dirge]

Maybe send your in game parameters and we'll diagnose if there's an issue in them

[brave halo]

OK before you call it out

Yes Special is active but I was swapping around right before this convo to try to think for using someone else

[silver dirge]

Max Sync CD -1?

On top of HS1 she already has

[brave halo]

I'm trying to lower as much damage as she can do

[silver dirge]

And then Max HP 8 + Strength 6 is obviously going to make her insanely bulky

Try bring a denial or strong tank to avoid those hits instead, and reduce her bulk as much as possible

POH 2 is close to a free 200 pts pre sync

[brave halo]

Which means activating attack params where she hits so hard that it would just kill red instantly

[silver dirge]

bring a denial
On top of what Red already has.

[lost gulch]

bertha 3k was no joke

[brave halo]

Doesn't she usually set up tm to mean denial means nothing?

[lost gulch]

had to offtype bertha and man it was shit

[silver dirge]

If you're getting hit she's using physical pokemon moves no? Deny them

Even if she immediately switches to a TM you've still moved up your queued attacks

[brave halo]

Nope still nothing

Red cannot win

[silver dirge]

Move level?

And team?

[brave halo]

1/5 ex tech

Him, e burgh, and elaine

[verbal karma]

Damn, this team isn't working out for Bertha...who to replace Solgaleo with?

[brave halo]

Elaine with 3/5 ex and burgh ex 2/5

[silver dirge]

Let me give something a shot

[swift swan]

Isn't working out how? Bertha just got to sync too early?

[verbal karma]

I don't even get to that point

MC Solgaleo dies way too fast

[swift swan]

You can try nuking mid first sync with KGrimsley and DPS the sides

[verbal karma]

and so does Leaf

[swift swan]

Is Solgaleo ground weak? That may be it

[verbal karma]

yeah

[swift swan]

reset if Bertha uses EQ then. Not much that can be done, I'm afraid

[verbal karma]

Leaf ALSO dies too fast, sadly

[swift swan]

KGrimsley can be the sole damage dealer if you're willing to rely on a bit of luck. Nuke mid, flinch one side, metal burst the other

[verbal karma]

I...have Interference Immunity on

[swift swan]

His sync under -6 def hits very hard. As long as you're running presync params ofc

[verbal karma]

I always run presync whenever possible

[swift swan]

What round is this

[verbal karma]

R2

[swift swan]

Hmmm. Personally I think turning off interference immunity is still worth a try. If Solgaleo dying to EQ is the problem, replace Clemont with a flincher

Doesn't have to be KGrimsley. Any cheap gauge flincher will do

That way you can take no stat reduction and turn off interference immunity

[grave wyvern]

Doing this with the sand up was unhinged PLEASE give Kalos a weather setter 😭 PLEASE

[old orchid]

@ nc calem

[grave wyvern]

one that can CONTROL when they set it!!!

[silver dirge]

You choose to click the BMove whenever you want bestie

[grave wyvern]

explain how I can use Chalem to remove Cynthia's sand on turn 1

I'll wait.

[brave halo]

Oh my--I'm just losing my mind

I've tried raihan, nothing, solgaleo, nothing, rose, nothing

[verbal karma]

sadly, I need BP Clemont to lower Defense

[brave halo]

Like I'm not meant to beat this aparently

Omg I hate sinnoh cs so much

I couldn't even win with Zerena its that bad

[silver dirge]

The current situation you've presented is "This is my team & parameters, it doesn't work. I refuse to change either but I need it to work".

We cannot help if you don't want to make changes

[rose ermine]

5.75k for an 8 day old account ain't too bad tbh

[silver dirge]

Nicely done

[old orchid]

Rose is literally a free win against Bertha

[silver dirge]

Rose?

[verbal karma]

I mean, if you know a better Defense debuffer than Clemont, then please tell me

I kinda need to replace BP Clemont as well

[old orchid]

What parameters are you using with him?

[verbal karma]

because just like Solgaleo, he TOO is allergic to EQ

[silver dirge]

You don't need a defense debuffer if you're replacing him with a disruption of some kind, like flinch

[verbal karma]

except I 100% do need one

because Solgaleo just doesn't deal enough damage without that

[brave halo]

Aka I've tried any good steels I got and nothing works

[old orchid]

That means parameter and/or teambuilding issues

[silver dirge]

This is what I mean. If you refuse to take the advice given to you, there's no point asking in the first place. I can't personally help further, hopefully someone else can. Good luck

[verbal karma]

I literally even explained why I need one

[silver dirge]

Rose should be pretty breezy

[grave wyvern]

You do not need one if the opponent attacks are interrupted enough that Solgaleo gets plenty of attacks in

[silver dirge]

Are you able to record by any chance? We may be able to help better that way

For SpeedTy ^

[verbal karma]

sadly, that requires too much RNG than I am comfortable with

[lusty wagon]

Any ideas who can aaron and flint do solo? Since i try zinnia and paulo but they fail it. Maybe you have any ideas since aaron need status change and flint need delet suns since he have at start and latter befor sync . Thanks for help:)

[verbal karma]

and I want a strategy that is...not as reliant on RNG

[grave wyvern]

if it's Round 3 your flinches will proc very reliably

[verbal karma]

it's Round 2

I want to save Round 3 for Lucian

[old orchid]

Then move to R3. Easy solution

[dense birch]

think they mean if you do round 2 someone else, you can r3 bertha instead

[old orchid]

You are limiting yourself for absolutely no sensible reasons

[verbal karma]

wdym "no sensible reasons", I have all the sensible reasons

[silver dirge]

You always obsess over the round params but fail to benefit from one when it's applicable

[keen jasper]

Have you tried first?

[old orchid]

People are getting tired of you when you are not open minded with good suggestions and advice

[brave halo]

I can but it takes way too long to post

[verbal karma]

...okay, asking here was a bad idea, I apologize

[brave halo]

And sometimes doesn't work

[silver dirge]

It's fine asking here, we're always here to help & successfully do so for several people daily. Because they onboard the advice, make the necessary changes and are willing to give things a try. How do you expect to be helped when you won't try what we suggest?

[grave wyvern]

You're welcome to ask, it's just frustrating for the Helpers when you backtalk every possible solution they offer you

[dense birch]

i don't know if this helps at all. but from experience using Solgaleo, you basically have to scum for not running into too many EQ. there is no consistent way to ensure they don't use EQ. i'm also not sure why you need a def debuffer, but wouldn't colress be better than clermont? you will need a diff tank (replace leaf/eevee), but colress' screech is aoe def -2. if you were wanting to def down the side guys. since you're likely going to be fishing for no EQ, it wouldn't matter if colress is ground weak as well

[verbal karma]

thanks, will try Colress

[plush tangle]

There's a consistent way for no earthquake
Always put Bertha to sleep lol

[brave halo]

It's basically the game saying you don't get to win

[dense birch]

i think one of the side guys do bulldoze or EQ as well. i saw it once

haha

[brave halo]

Cause she will eq instantly

[plush tangle]

Then sleep them all ez

🧠

[dense birch]

oh rock slide

the side guys have a chance to use rock slide

flinch them all!

elaine go

[brave halo]

Ive been trying elaine and she does great but i cant kill in time

[silver dirge]

Bertha's HS1 is definitely annoying, but Rose should work wonders. Have you tried taking an enabler with him? Someone with SEUN maybe?

SuppEX -> SEUN Max Move

Just don't make them too bulky

[brave halo]

Why is Dana the only one I have to pass it onto an ally

[grave wyvern]

She did just help me 3k Bertha with Wikstrom

I would not ignore her

[silver dirge]

Pick up as much offense as you can and go for Dana, she can help you take those hits with the damage guard

Rose just needs enough time for Max move after suppEX, that should wipe em

[old orchid]

Thats what I did with SS Giovanni

[hollow swan]

Love me some

12k damage

On draco meteor

Permafield effect is always the best

[verbal karma]

hmm...okay, I can see my strategy is just not gonna work out in general due to Head Start

and Solgaleo...somehow only hitting as hard as a wet paper, even with Screech

maybe I am JUST using the wrong damage dealer after all

[dense birch]

yup i used Hop as my tank

[keen jasper]

Show your parameters

[brave halo]

Nope still didn't work

[dense birch]

Bright as the Sun is 3 atk. Hop gives 4 atk (so max). 3 crits total too i think? was able to nuke the sides with solgaleo's first sync, but i am only doing 2k

[brave halo]

I was able to take out the sides but Bertha lives with half health

And then sync one shot

[hollow swan]

Solgaleo hits hard wth

[verbal karma]

he doesn't hit hard for me

[keen jasper]

Remove Def./Sp. Def. Up 1 and Max HP Up 2 fro Atk./Sp. Atk. Up 5

[verbal karma]

...oh jeez, but then Bertha would hit even harder

[old orchid]

You complain about Solgaleo not hitting hard, meanwhile you picked defensive params

[verbal karma]

and Leaf can't really tank very well

[old orchid]

Thats literally your issue, not Leaf's

[hollow swan]

Your issue tbh

[verbal karma]

wdym "my issue", you mean Leaf is supposed to be able to tank well?

[old orchid]

Yes?

[verbal karma]

...then I don't know what I am doing wrong

[old orchid]

People have figured them out earlier. You don't know about them because you didnt accept the truth

[mellow linden]

What’s your Solgaleo grid?

[manic kiln]

stop picking hp
the thing is rng always play a role if you use budget/gen pool options
might need a few reset for the right rng.... like they don't spam earthquake

[hollow swan]

Time to show him

The myriad truths

We go persona 4 time

[verbal karma]

again, I don't know why Leaf is taking more damage than she's supposed to

[mellow linden]

And you’re making sure to use Solgaleo’s Trainer Move twice?

[verbal karma]

yes

[mellow linden]

Then it’s either parameters or you’re setting your expectations for the far too high Uber-tier damage

[manic kiln]

I used colress in this budget run and didn't work, and I replaced him with grimsley, took the mid to low enough so solgaleo can finish, then sync to finish the sides
full offense parameters, and finished with full hp

if someone has rose he destroyed this stage even at 1/5, just need some speed buffs

dual dps usually work if you can't kill fast enough

[plush tangle]

Gauge where

[manic kiln]

i had no issues with gauge
i think i missed quadqueue in that run but it didn't matter

you can use better support tho it was my monoteam so no better steel options

[brave halo]

I hate this so damn much

[full mesa]

This week is my nightmare.
4/5 types I have weak roster.

[manic kiln]

bring a speed buffer

[full mesa]

Was this run on 3k pre sync?

[manic kiln]

yes

[full mesa]

Who did you sync with first? Also did you use metal burst on mid?

I might be able to replicate that.

[brave halo]

Which means I die due to no good defense buffing

[manic kiln]

yes metal burst on mid, solgaleo sync to finish the rest

[full mesa]

No Hop sync?

[manic kiln]

and now you have no gauge to use move to kill them faster

[brave halo]

That was after I synced with him before super effective gmax

[full mesa]

I was asking Lost

[brave halo]

Basically aka I lose regardless

[manic kiln]

i think i sync twice with solgaleo, the first to deny the left

[full mesa]

I'll try that. What round?

[manic kiln]

4

[full mesa]

I was planning to use Jirachi on r4 against her.

But I'll keep that team in my mind.

[manic kiln]

whenever i use the legendary pair like palkia, hooh, solgaleo i always sync twice with them
better results than support sync
but if you have more premium options feel free to use them

[brave halo]

Omg what do I do like seriously

Im at this for like 2 hours

[manic kiln]

bring a speed buffer and a def buffer, can replace dana

but like skyla can fill both role

[brave halo]

I have skyla in this

But can't kill in time

Literally one eq after she sync one shot

[manic kiln]

change your parameter, stop taking hp and def

[brave halo]

The only one for hp active is +8

No defense ones active

[sand karma]

So glad I got ssDawn from the paid select

[dark osprey]

HP +8 is quite high. Need to minimise that. Should try to go for pre sync

[brave halo]

But I cant

If I take that off then I'm turning on others meaning she can kill even faster

[silver dirge]

Just give it a try, reduce your bulk so you can clear it faster. Dana has damage guard she can take those hits

[dark osprey]

Need some RNG to not get like 2 earthquakes

[old orchid]

Dana has enough bulk to eat hits with max attack params

She got guard on TM too

[manic kiln]

why do people afraid of taking offense parameters taking hp or defense then suffered from the tanky enemies

[brave halo]

Very simple, one hit means instant kill

[pseudo drum]

I have only one rock ex pair - gordie and I am using nc rosa for support any other sync pair recommendation

[manic kiln]

you'll see the miracle once you start killing them in like 2-3 moves with offense param

[versed mural]

850 pts bertha

[old orchid]

A dps

[plush tangle]

Registeel is RIGHT THERE

[manic kiln]

yeah like somehow i forgot too lazy to change my team, i stopped using him a few months ago and just kept the hop support team

sometimes you need exed support sometimes you don't

[silver dirge]

I never use the same team two CS in a row gotta change it up everytime

[manic kiln]

i only change team when i pull new units

[pseudo drum]

Anyone that I can use as dps

[old orchid]

Olivia

[pseudo drum]

Ok

[manic kiln]

nice gordie

[dark osprey]

Roark as well

[old orchid]

They asked who should they use with Gordie

[dark osprey]

Honestly even Kukui with the grid upgrade is ok since the leering

[manic kiln]

does roark kill himself at 3*

[pseudo drum]

Roark good?

[manic kiln]

yes good dps after getting grid

[old orchid]

He has good dps but he demands a lot of investment to not kill himself quickly

[pseudo drum]

Ok..

[dark osprey]

Since the EX Gordie will take most of the mid HP, Roark could work

Can try in that order I guess, Olivia, Kukui, Roark

Olivia without sand maybe not enough

[pseudo drum]

O and what abt their sun?

[dark osprey]

Oh Yeah. That's true. Better to get sand

Would you have Ingo by any chance?

[pseudo drum]

I skipped him

[dense birch]

acerola lol

[pseudo drum]

She ain't good at dps though

[brave halo]

Nope still even after turning off max hp 8

Rose cannot kill in time

One sync and he dead

[pseudo drum]

True

[formal vigil]

Just use olivia accerola/bertha attack support

[pseudo drum]

Wait rose?

I don't know nothing now I'm very confused

[steel kelp]

The only rose in the game

[formal vigil]

This guy

[pseudo drum]

He for bertha

[brave halo]

I hate this stage, I hate it, I hate it, i hate it

So much hatred right now

[formal vigil]

What are rose teammates?

[pseudo drum]

I am saving Rose for Bertha

I'm using Gordie for Flint

[brave halo]

Dana and skyla

[formal vigil]

I beat bertha easily with colress and skyla rose

[steel kelp]

What

[formal vigil]

3k too