#Champion Stadium
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doing a run rn
ok it will take some time to send pics cuz my phone is really slow lulz
Do you have Leaf/Eevee?
say less, give me 3 mins
ok i put grid on diantha she kills mid but then she dies cuz the right side
Do you have Tech Sync Pairs Take x3 Damage parameter active?
yes
but u said to go for all atk
The Atk./Sp. Atk. parameter
im only doing 1k points now cuz @silver dirge said to lower
@manic mica have you done quadqueueing before?
whats that
+quadqueue
Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!
The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.
Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :
- If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
- If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)
17 seconds · Clipped by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters) · Original video "Sinnoh CS 2k Aaron Fire w/ Flannery" by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters)
it's literally just 17 seconds
i can try on sunday lulz csmm is here until monday
i think i will pull on the tapus instead of nate
cuz there 3 of them
Don't talk here about pulling
where then
Poma lounge
Know the proper usage of each and every channel in this server please
Also make sure to read #1010307000346878062 first if you’re asking all these basic questions 
so many to read
Knowing the gameplay and mechanics (which does require reading) is fundamental.
im old player of 2 years
Well considering there is a lot the game does not tell you, our resources are valuable.
I had to restart this battle multiple times because my phone cannot handle it
but here. @manic mica compressing and sharing in a moment
Won with 2/5 SCDiantha.
5/5 EX Leaf
2/5 EX Argenta
the 2/5 on Argenta doesn't do anything btw
@manic mica
this isn't even optimal gameplay and still won. 
The teamcomp Is also far from optimal
we call it the "Hit or miss, but we never miss" team comp
why didnt you take eevee’s expanded grid
sad that this clear will go unnoticed by the one who wanted it
i forgor.
based
It do be like that sometimes
i dont have ex argenta
Switch EX argenta for Diantha nuke then
the EX on Argenta wasn't really required, but since you literally have 5/5 Diantha, you can beat it easily.
like even if umbreon didn't die, it would be about 9K damage, and i'd be able to survive the attack because endure, just swap to the side attacking, and aura sphere. that would do about 3K and be enough to ko
hmm
I’m surprised SSHilbert didn’t work
no tank? o_o
oh nvm
i see, no gauge hmm
can't you run a off-type gauge / tank with Alder?
Lucian
Imma try with poison stall
gl then.
I destroyed blue with hilbert
With any tank, genesect is self sufficient offensively
I passed it with the classic poison stall 🙂
I would too but I want to see the parameters for that team
Focus blast hits like a truck
I’ve put Move Gauge Refresh on SS Hilbert and it doesn’t do shit
Like yes my luck probably
But techno blast is so slowwww
I went full on type post sync, 3k. Hilbert SS, sycamore and leaf (eevee). It was basically a hilbert solo lmao. Lower sp def to -6 and your sp atk to +6 then techno blast goes brr
your hilbert is 3/5 you can sync with him first to ko mid
hard or mm?
Mm 3k
could probably run SSHilbert + 2 tanks. SSHilbert can easily nuke mid presync, especially at 3/5 EX.
so question, has anyone done an eevee only run yet?
i technically could, but have to use Valerie 
チャンバトが15000ptになり厳しくなりましたが、今まで通り弱点を突いていけばそう苦ではないと思います。
というわけでポケマス修行僧たちは引き続き縛りプレイをして遊んでいます。
ブイズファンにおすすめなのがブイズ縛り。今までも単騎か2枠をすれば殿堂入りはできていましたが、これからは全部3枠でもいけるようになったのでクリアの安定感は増しました。
0:00 vsカンナ
物理軽減ルール
セキ 攻撃時防御ダウン2
エリカ 急所時威力上昇2
チェッタ 急所無効
1:56 vsシバ
状態異常強化ルール
カイ 急所時威力上昇2
カリン 急所時威力上昇2
サロンセキ 急所無効
4:42 vsキクコ
瀕死時味方能力低下ルール
コトネ P技後防御アップ2
クリス 急所無効
リッカ 急所無効
7:...
Leave it to EeveeMath to do an Eevee only clear 
What pair should I use for lance
we cant recommend anyone without knowing your roster
Cyrus should be enough unless you used him on Bruno
Zinnia demands a lot of things tho 
Just the 850 pts one
850 pts are just slightly harder than hard mode
I want some presets but the link in the pins doesn’t work
https://tinyurl.com/CSMMParams doesn’t work?
2500 Points
Important,These presets are templates for you to adapt based on your team composition and stages tackled. The black rectangle borders signify you can swap one for the other as necessary. In general, you can use parameters like “No Stat Reduction” or “Can’t Change Weather” if your tea...
850 points should be no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode, with 3 caveats:
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Your damage-dealer(s) must to be on-type.
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Your damage-dealer(s) must be only physical or only special for their damage output.
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Your team can do either without status conditions or without interference.
Those 3 caveats are generally very easy to work around, though
First 3k Alola next reset hoohoo
Can't wait for Sinnoh and Hoenn 3k 
But I'm always doing above 3k anyways, so who the fuck cares?
i don’t think i can consistently do 3k runs whilst maintaining my own personal rule of variety, idk. it takes a lot of rng to be able to get less meta sync pairs to win at that level.
and i’m trying not to just have that one team that beats everything for that type, or two.
It depends on what the restrictions you’re setting for yourself are
A lot of players have felt similarly that 3K kinda killed theme clears as it can be super restricting on certain themes some being only possible in a 2.5K setting I say this as someone who tries doing themes every week
I’ve made Clair and Lusamine work in 3k, though I’ve used strong Supports for each (though I might be able to get away with a less potent Support with Lusamine, idk)
cannot use the same damage dealing unit for a stage twice in a row, preferably should be able to use more varied strategies to keep the battles feeling fresh when i do them. which is also what i felt like was needed for my videos
A lot of unit can do 3k with their ideal supports but not a lot of units can do this when they're limited to lesser units
yeah i do try to get away with less when possible
Tbf I probably can still work using only gen pool for both, it just gets much less smooth (namely with Clair)
ok but i have a single brain cell and a massive skill issue so
Since without SS Kris I’d likely be forced to run Clair’s Dragon Breath for Paralysis
omg relatable
idk if i can describe what my usual attempts at variety are so i’ll just send a bunch of my video thumbnails and hope someone figures out a pattern
i try to shove in at least one weaker team per run
but it’s not always consistent
and while yeah i can probably get away with 3k for most of these teams, if those battles are taking way too long (retrying for like 30+ mins because skill issue or otherwise) i’m just not gonna be able to have fun with that
i want to be clear i’m just asking for a few second opinions on whether pursuing 3k runs is ideal given my situation
Can still give it a shot, this channel’s always open for advice and worst case scenario you only lose the time it took to make the attempt(s)
I’ve 3ked Steel weak Lance with regular Steven (who at this point is fairly outdated) and Hop + Rachel (who can easily be swapped for like Skyla or something) as the Supports twice now
If that helps any
in fairness lance himself is also a bit dated lol
older leagues have lower effective bars to MM entry and all that
but yeah i get it
Who is designed to beat leaf?
I think NC Serena given the fact that ideally you wanna debuff her
I don't have lyra but I have Serena
So she should be super easy
They didn't change the other opponents any from the regular versions did they?
Yup
As usual, the E4 is copy-pasted from their respective regions
Oh phew so it will be super easy to blast through them if needed with stuff with nc Marnie, rats, nc red, and Adaman.
Pretty much
What's wrong with flint?
Flint hits hard
He was designed for SS Misty, because he has Good Form and Rising Tide
If you dont remove or debuff his positive stats, he hits real hard
Flint said he wants his turn 1 flare blitz
What would I want to run with misty?
Do you want to nuke with her? If not just bring a good dmg dealer
Would may and suicune work?
I would be real surprised if they didnt work
Tho i would save May or SS Kris for another fight, unless you have enough rain setter
love Winona erasure
These are my water types
Not sure if there's any I should use for other fights? Any tips would be appreciated
Rosa is a funny unit
How so?
Also is 12.5k enough points to get the important rewards for the special stadium?
Razor shell and nuke hard
That’s more than enough
It’s like regular stadium where the rewards stop being good after like 4K or something
Malva would need a rain setter and a decent damage dealer with suitable support of your choice
Could try Grimsley if he works to be a bit conservative on resources
So you could allocate like the 5 best damage dealers on each of the teams firstly
Archie, NC Serena, May, Nessa and Kris
Plus do filter with move type so that ones like Cyrus are not overlooked
Plus the eggmons if you have gyarados especially
I’m waiting for 3.5k runs 
So something like Archie would be enough? Sorry I'm kinda late
Me Doing 4k Runs: What's that?
Oh my bad, I meant to say 5k runs
That's pretty impossible
Nothing in life is impossible
I'd like to see you attempt it
It’s not out yet to the public
When will it be out?
When the devs decide to release it

To confirm, this good? Thinking so but wanting to double check.
No hurt trying out
is this for this week
it looks like it
wait question
why are you running wormadam with rei
aaron makes much more sense
Are you off-typing all of them?
This week
Sinnoh and speed
Gauge: 2 | Power: 30 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Sp. Atk. by 1 stat rank.
Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: All allies
Effect Tag: -
Raises the Sp. Atk of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks.
Gauge: 3 | Power: 91 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: Absorbs
The more damage dealt to the target, the more it restores the user's HP.
Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: All allies
Effect Tag: -
Raises the Sp. Def and Speed of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks.
Power: 250
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.
Those look like teams for week 174
...what?
Except for Anni Lillie team
you dont need aura cynthia shes a clunky implementation of zone and if you’re pre syncing you dont need the maxed defense
So... Are you really off-typing all of them?
its still sunday
By Aaron, you mean...?
vespiquen
Because the only team I see that on-types is your Lucas team
And he's not your champion team
Ah
they also said its for this week
Why is he better if they both do speed?
Well, I got confused because it's Monday for me
because he finishes rei’s buffs has a 1 bar move opposed to a 2 bar and also stacks more pmun with a team heal
and its not for the speed its for less gauge expenditure
Aaron also has Quick Cure in case he gets confused
i struggle to see how speed is an issue with rei when tm maxes it
Less than an hour remains get your crap done
Updated
Ironic that dragon-weak Hau has a parameter that makes him take more special damage
Anyone I should do/avoid on certain rounds?
Working on it.... Had to use raihan and presync for olivia @-@
You can do anyone in any order
But she stacks def buffs anytime you hit her o.o
Crit ignores that no?
crits bypass that

I lacked another +crit with my solgaleo run ;-;
Thats your issue on skill
You can bring another crit buffer anyway
Would Morty + Gio + Bianca vs Kahili be good or should I replace Bianca with a special attack buffer
I would replace Morty, assuming he is SS Morty
BP Morty, sorry
He doesnt provide offensive buffs, replace him with a spatk support then
Bianca is very useful because of terrain
Giovanni is an easy pre sync anyway
Are these teams good?
Should I go Leon or PB EX Silver vs Molayne?
Silver
Or both
oh Silver is physical
Silver can nuke first turn
even as physical?
Sacred Firie Silver
If you turn on special damage reduction you can just use Silver as the main nuker
I think Sacred Fire Silver still does decently under sun
But the first 3 cycles will just be setting up his nuke
Woo Alola crushed. Surprisingly my steel team, despite taking its sweet time, was never in any danger of losing haha
Ready for next week. Surprisingly enough, I dread Flying weak the most
With flying?
What's roxanne doing on the rock team
I guess it's to continue the monotype theme, which shouldn't be prioritised (at all) over team synergy but 
yeah, that's
but guess it's fine if the others carry 
people and their silly self imposed challenges, smh
Just Speed lol
If you'd like to make it more ideal you should bring a support who buffs Hilda/Diantha's offenses. Also Akari really doesn't need 2 supports, you'd be outputting a lot more damage with another dark-type like MR on that team. Instead of Caitlin just sitting there. But if it works, it works 
This is prolly the most out of the box team i had
And even i know it's not that out of the box lol

Bede and Calem with that SpMUN tho
Yeah they work surprisingly well with each other, even i was surprised
Giratina looks a different that what I remember 
Hey i remember that team
Is giratina sick? It seems a bit purple 
Idk it suddenly become psychic type
Ah might be having a case of imposter syndrome
Who needs support for dark type 
on-typed 2/5, i have NC Nate for champion, which of these should I offtype with NC Red
or i could offtype one of these with Nate and offtype champion with Red
I doubt you need to off-type either of them since it’s Hard Mode (unless you’ve used both types already and are off-typing to get more type medal progress)
At worst you have Silver and likely Blaine, who’d be enough for Hard Mode easily
i have variety lucas actually is he good for fire weak?
Solid option in general, should be totally fine for Hard Mode (especially if you bring someone with Sunny Day as a teammate)
i’ll need to save him for round 4
On the bright side, you have a lot more room to goof around with different Sync Pairs while you fill up the type medal
Already was on that 
I really wanted to see Nate perform since I decided to EX him lol
Btw, if you’re just looking to post your Hall of Fame screenshots we actually have #1010274591601598555 available to make a post for them in. You can even make a thread that you can update each week to act as a repository of all your CS clears, which is very cool!
Oh that's great
Am confused how do i find the 3k presets in the pin, it says they are there but i cant see em
3k depends on your team
Who should I use versus Acerola? I'm on r4
Victor + Fantina + a special support
You can replace Fantina with Allister if you want to make use of r4 parameter
Why hinder the comp like that, allisters damage isnt good and wanting to abuse a round param is not something you always need to do
Should I use NC Blue here or save him for Lance?
Gauge: 3 | Power: 99 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Has a chance (20%) of lowering the target's Sp. Def by 1 stat rank.
Gauge: 2 | Power: 39 | Accuracy: 95 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Speed by 1 stat rank.
Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
Returns the target's raised stats to normal.
Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: An ally
Effect Tag: -
Raises an ally's Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks. Raises an ally's critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank.
Power: 250
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.
I'm worried my special attack boosters will be too frail for 3k
they arent
True!
Sync with Victor first to set zone, its literally his purpose
Field EX is stronger than Support EX for first sync anyway
Which should I take for an extra 100, +3 defense or +2 HP?
DO NOT choose defense params
Pretty sure i did them in the wrong order (sp atk down with ss red in round 3 lol), but i’m glad to hit 12/18 on my first alola hard week
Assuming next week is going to be the same rotation and weaknesses (maybe the round effects change?), my missing types are Electric, Ground, Poison, Ghost, Ice, and Fighting. So these are my units for those 6 types (4 more at the bottom i didn’t screenshot are Candice/Abomasnow, Wulfric/Avalugg, Clay/Seismitoad, and Janine/Ariados)
these are the ones for next week.
You have one week to prepare, dont worry
Oh sweet ty
The round effects are changed between weeks, and we dont know about then until reset
Your missing types are not super effective on the next week weakness, so you can use units from these types as fodder
Ok cool. I’m still thinking that for next week, I can try some of the following:
- Maylene as an X Attack All bot for one of the teams
- Would Courtney/Camerupt be a good Ground DPS for Olivia?
- MC/Pikachu can be a Potion bot for one of the teams
- Maybe Lorelei/Lapras can be a tank for one of them?
Ghost is the one i will really struggle with haha
Mewtwo's a pretty solid shadow baller
You have shauntal as well
Oh right, Olivia is Ground weak, i forgot. Tho she needs heavy gauge support to keep gauge flow
You better using Ghetsis as an offensive debuffer, Lorelei is not worth using at all
I can probs pair Courtney with SS Blue or Sycamore for Move Acceleration
Is Shauntal your only Ghost type?
Gridded Skyla for max speed works too
Shauntal, Agatha and Acerola/Palossand
Ok i’ll look at upping and gridding her. I haven’t gridded anyone for a while so I should be sitting on quite a bit of coop sync orbs
or you could use overkill supports with Shauntal
e.g: Sycamore and Maylene
worst case scenario, Sycamore carries
Probably should have thought of that for this week’s CS haha, since next week won’t have ghost week. I off-typed acerola
That's alright; just make sure you complete your Unovian type medal by next week.
Alolan?
4 weeks instead of 5, i smell hoenn loading
sinnoh is next if they don't plan to add new region, if it's not sinnoh then something new is coming
the next round starts on Jan 1st tho so there's a high chance they add new regions

why is variety lucas so bad, can’t even do hard level 1 with him on-type
He shouldn't struggle with on-type hard mode, what's your team?
i need crit rate and accuracy tho
yeah it says here that he can raise ally special attack by 4 stages and his own crit rate by 2 stages
so i need one crit rate
find a defensive support who can buff +1 crit then
and accuracy preferably so i don’t have to keep resetting
this is what i got for crit rate
and i also need sp atk
Falkner it is
he helps both Lucas and SS Erika offensively
you should read his kit to know the reason
it’s been a while since i actually used falkner, haven’t used him since clearing story lmao
so he stays alive using fly? and supports with TMs?
dont use Fly, it ruins the move queue
i just tried him out and it didn’t go well
i won, only barely
champion battle time
i wanna use NC Nate here probably
and use unova supports of types i haven’t used yet
easy champion
Is there a reason we don't know of round effects until the week itself?
Because they are only set until the actual week itself
Ah, so they're not in the code until they are actually neededM
That's kinda interesting
They're server side yes
This felt like the biggest overkill
(hard mode for this week
)
what move level for N? 😮
alola yeaayahaajwoo
alright lets seeeee
Not worth it bro don't do it 😂
Which of the three types should I save Perma field for? Doing 3k
Woops set dragon instead of psy
there
have you planned your teams for these 3 stages?
havent fully planned the three stages yet, have to look at any potential gimmicks of those three
i suggest planning first before decide to choose the round param
been just building my teams on the fly for a while now tbh 
does molayne set sand at all presync?
making sure im not missing something about each enemy kit
he only sets sand post sync
alright, kinda surprised by the lack of gimmicks after how long ive been used to gimmicky stages but im thankful for a simple looking clear
Haven’t picked support slots and possibly second dps with solgaleo yet. But I’m thinking maybe something like these?
Might replace gordie with something else too Idk
Didn’t touch the support slots since I’m figuring out side slot for solgaleo team first, although leaning toward prob like ncalem for gauge on solgaleo team
replace E. Victor with SSR Cynthia if you want to sync with Leaf
i think SS Hilda's team is the best team to use the perma field round
Gordie uses max move right at the start to setup sun, then lower Fire rebuffs
(see this regarding leaf being there, im prob not using leaf on that team)
i would use a gauge support and a defense debuffer instead of Falkner and Proton in Solgaleo's team
wait, Olivia is anti defense debuff
maybe adding another dmg dealer? im not a fan of double support comp
idk which second steel type to include vs anti def debuff, any opinions?
Right, second ss is all my move type: steel
Third shot shows my limited supports (and by extension all my exd ones other than Aaron)
how about trying Hop + Solgaleo core? with Hop tanking and the SEUN stuff gridded
then a gauge support as the third is fine
Would bp registeel be ok for a third then? Or should I pick something with higher base speed / faster speed buffs instead?
For the registeel team does registeel or hop tank? I assume hops better in tank slot? Idk what the condition was for his seun tiles off top of my head
Does this team layout seem good? I’m gonna be surprised if dragon team lasts longer than sync+max move since Serena is caked so just using falkner to round off stats
good enough to me
One last question; for ghost team, would you say nuking with victor, or swapping him for ssrc and nuking with Lillie for aoe, would be better overall probs?
sync with Victor first, then Lillie
do note that Proton's passives prevent quad queueing so you should do turn denial as well
Huh, alright. Thanks. Gonna sleep now since it’s like 4am and I’ll do the clears when I have time, thanks for helping with the planning
Trying to set up an Eeveeloution run for either this week or next week, but trying to see if it's even possible with what I have.
How does this look for the current stadium? Probably planning on moving up to 2k and work my way up to 3k over time.
Can you happen to not be able to make it to 2.5k?
your roster looks like more than enough to 2.5k, even 3k
I've been playing it safe for a while, just going for 1.5k. Thinking of taking it slow and working my way up to 3k stuff.
try 2.5k
I can assure you i jumped from 1.5k to 2.5k rather easily
im now doing 3k with a bit difficulty but your roster seems like enough
well, what on the teams?
hold up, lemme look at the type weakness
what is summer tate weak to again?
obviously you have some off type menaces like ash, sst and johtrio
try pal marnie tate and roxanne for 2.5k
are they fully gridded?
Yeah, they should be.
try uh the steel team on 2.5k with the points in pins
Im assuming you know of quad queue?
If you mean sneaking in a move after Sync, yeah, I shoot for it when possible.
like doing 3 moves all at the same type
and yes sneaking in two moves after syncing
These grids work?
Yeah, that's a general set-up I have with her.
uh
That's the stalwart build from the sheet, I don't know what to tell you
would there be a better setup?
try
roxanne tm
marnie tm
tate tm
roxanne x defense all
marnie growl
tate thunder wave
roxanne x defense all
marnie steel wish
tate flash cannon
then sync with tate
then do roxanne tm twice after sync, growl two more times then spam iron head with marnie
tate should be save to spam flash cannon
I canfigure out movesets alright, don't worry. Just curious on if I should go with a different grid setup for Roxanne or not.
idk how it'll work cause roxannes bulk is kinda medicore but whatever
she just needs endurance x defense all mp and study buddies mp refresh
and vigilance
she should already have vigilane as a lucky skill.
alright, try pre sync 2.5k.
one sec while I set it up
what's happening?
Main thing Roxanne would need on grid would be endurance
Kinda my fault but I wanted them to try 2.5k with their roster
They wanted to slowly work up but they had units that should be able to do 2.5k with ease
I saw the above screenshot, tho why you using SuTate? Solgaleo is right there
unless the lion is not powerboosted/EX
sutate is 3/5 im assuming
Also, PMarnie is a compotent nuker if she's 3/5, so
Tate has better output than Solgaleo anyway
wait she is 3/5
really? I didn't know that
p sure you can just use PMarnie to deny left, then use SuTate to obliterate mid
get that Mega stat boost going
doom desire be hitting so hard it obliterates 1/3 of lycanrocs health
ok now I'm wondering why Lord Typh didn't try 3k
bro has every answer they can hope for
Alright, Tate managed to finish first. Good thing I synced with him, Roxanne would have died without enduring.
do you have lucian?
Yeah.
And I tend to play it safe and just stick to habits and routines a lot.
so that probably should help explain things for you.
bro just try 3k immediately; you have the roster to do it
do you have any special defense buffers with potion?
2.5k to 3k is kind of a harsh jump
Well I can say for certain since I have the team, electric rats and blue is easy 3k
wow what a surprise

i seriously could not have guessed b thunderbolt with -2 electric rebuff wouldve not one shot
Not for teams that can literally burst clear a stage (SuTate' Doom Desire be like:)
to be fair i can clear 3k with mc solgaleo hop and registeel (all with ex and powerboost)

Just a reminder that if they dont want to push harder, dont judge or force them

crap i pinged
dip time
Punish

@junior solstice do 3.5-4k CSMM NOW 🌩️
And finished, 2500 completed for the first time.
was it comfortable for you? or no
Alright enough. Surprised how fast the tanks ended up falling at times though.
Who can i use in order to carry the pasio stadium in a few weeks ?
I have 5 rain setters (Lyra Vaporeon/Egg Vaporeon shiny/ Shiny Blastoise / Wynona / Greninja Calem)
then i think we can add cyrus even if he is ungridded
4/5 Gladio (i don't know how good that will be)
I think Cerena is really strong should have her own team, so does may
oh may can bring rain
Cerena, May, Cyrus, Nessa DPS, SS Grimsley nuke
don't forget lodge gives you some good water types, like lodge silver, lodge may, and lodge rosa
Is there a reason you can't grid your Cyrus?
siebold has a good nuke too actually
yeah but i am unlocking exeggcutor
Shortage of
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ah
in the lodge currently
i got ghastly
too
i can grid cyrus but it's not unllocked
i think mega kick Kris is worth considering as well, though she will need an accuracy buffer
i don't have the events
it's fine, for hydro pump he doesn't need the powerboost
He doesn’t need Power Boost
to 6 star him + full grid
his powerboost tiles makes his dragon DPS better
EX also won’t matter because his Sync is off-type anyway
Hydro Pump is at full power just from 5/5 20/20
should i bring one rain settler per team ?
if you can afford it, though sometimes it's not necessary if the unit is already very strong like Cerena
Cerena, May, Cyrus, Nessa DPS, SS Grimsley nuke
WOn't Ness lack dps without the 3/5 ?
She doesn’t have that much in the way of regular move modifiers in grid
i meant without the nuke
will she be able to clear a 2500 ?
because cerena is probably a free round
so would be May
2.5k is likely doable on one of the weaker stages (Shauntal or Olivia) just fine
i don't have enough experience with Cyrus to say for sure but i think he will be strong
and Grimsley can nuke with his 3/5
as long as i don't one shot him ig he will be fine 🤣
Grimsley wants rain more compared to other options, his sync is strong but his dps is lacking
his sync might not be enough to pre sync in higher scores (3k) without rain
i need more support ex i think for the 3000
Cerena and May can 3k their respective stages I believe
you can lower the points for the rest if you're not comfortable yet
some people, like Aurochs, beat 3k CSMM regularly without EX and max evolution (mostly)
so dont worry about that

EX supports help immensely, but it's all about gameplay and teambuilding at the end of the day
I can’t believe how f2p friendly steel 3k is tbh. This did miles better than I expected it to
Solgaleo is really nice now. Can even try double striker with Wikstrom or Molayne I guess
I used registeel for gauge support so hop could spam behemoth after his sync
no surprise there
registeel provides some good gauge
Yeah true. Plus the extra dps damage
Tbf I haven’t used registeel too much so far. It’s a unit I’m appreciating a lot more
My main wish is that it had an ex
Not sure if Hop does enough damage though before enemy sync. Can even save him for another battle
Would make it a lot easier to fit on a team
steel teamwork is amazing though, you cant argue with that
Hop and sol did enough even on this
I basically just strength stack with hp8 cause most of my types are stacked
Made the params around the idea of not swapping for most stages
Haven’t had it fully stop a stage for me so far, holding my breath tho for when we get the harder regions back
Kinda wish we had more preset slots
Cause don’t got enough for all the presets I’d want to have more flexible params saved rather than stacking stats
do you have recording?
I don’t but I could record it by repeating the clear, the round didn’t matter (did it on r4 and the team does nothing with that)
Why you ask?
oh cause i managed to clear comfortably with level 130 i think
i want to see if 140 makes a difference
Nice. I too have kept parameters that I wouldn't need to change though some free points are not taken for some battles. Reaching max HP 6 with that though. Good to know even 8 is kinda comfortable
Lv140 is a pretty small margin even compared to 120 iirc
The only stage I actually had to plan much on in kanto was fighting Lorelei, and that’s just Lorelei being Lorelei with evasion hax. 
Ended up solving it with redlax + Bea combo though, and just spamming tms till second sync to oneshot the stage
Honestly for that if you have an adrenaline EXed support and Solgaleo with a fighting sync like even Bruno or probably even Korrina you would get through
Mainly deny the left side after the EX support sync and you would reach the second sync before the crit shield
Yeah, it’s just awkward with how Lorelei sets up crit shield presync
I ended up bringing Darach there for insurance for that fact, although I can prob fit something to actually help the clear in that slot next time
Yeah. Darach does counter well for her gimmicks at least
Just a shame that -eva is like all he does in the stage and removing shields
Cause she’s a special attacker
I kinda got pissed when my b triple arrows missed like twice
then realized i had physical dmg reduction 5 by accident
and one shot her with it
Rei gaming
rei owners are truly gaming
I didnt realize I had standard dr when using scsonia cause I thought her hitting for 3k was normal
😭 god
I thought rei doing 3k per triple arrows was normal
This was off type lel
I feel like he should be doing more even with phys dr ;e;
2/5 and opponent had +4 defenses i think?
if you crit you ignore defensive buffs
i didnt know that applied to poma
i think he did do more than 3k but i dont remember
maybe 6k?
the only thing that doesnt really apply is weather reducing damage
Need guide for 3k cs
Its ok done it at 15k. Struggle is real
I hate it when enemies miraculously queue their syncs in even when none of your fields wear off or a counter passive doesn't trigger
need help with molayne 
Hope you don’t mind my quick opinion: SS Red or Silver (assuming he’s powerboosted as well) should work just fine for him.
But if you’re doing MM, tell us your parameters, please.
Done 💦
updated
... Didn't we have that last week too?
Dark team is so fun
Love it when I give them -2 sync countdown and they still didn’t manage to sync haha
Ready for next week though bug is subject to change
COME ON HOLIDAY VIOLA
Yeah Akari is really strong for a field unit haha
Another Dark done, another fave unit used.
I want to make a Archer/Akari/NCCalem for a sync accel overdose team but I have to wait until I 3/5 Calem
Eventually
But it's gonna be a fun team still
I use this exact team pretty often for the sync accel
it's super fun
Does this room allow any chat related to CS
Should be fine as long as it isn't actively impeding someone trying to be helped
Ok thanks I'll take note of that
oh i used maskedroyale/akari/nccalem i dont have Archer ;_;
I have everyone on your team except Akari
I mean I change my team every time anyway so 
So I replaced Akari with Sidney's huge nukes
you can probably kill with Karen (if she's fully built up) with Dark Weak this week.
less damage NC Calem gets, better~ 😮
I don't have 3/5 Karen so eh
Sidney's fine too. how's his move level?
That and no dps
tbh, i like masked royale's nuke better xd
My masked royal is only 1/5
ah. yeah sidney will be good i guess.
Sidney's is a lot easier to set up anyway
My Sidney was underperforming before I gridded him so I levelled up royal
Regretted it after I gridded him
#1072120373858009088 message there we go. week 172 done.
Time to work on Week 173 and 174 o/
oh god, hau seems to just dislike your Bug-types 😦
I just EX and gave archer adr1 and man the acceleration is so funny
If my Calem is either 3/5 or has HS1 that's basically a whole turn skipped lol
Nobody's stopping you from running both HS1 and 3/5 grid
Correct me if I'm spreading misinformation
I can give him HS1 if I want
However my support candies are locked to Brandios atm
He just needs it more
If you really want HS1 rn, LG is up meaning you can farm cookies there to negate the loss you would get from LS rolling.
Blue should be plenty tho 
Who should be supporting him?
I usually run SSElesa and Lucian for a general pool comp
Then the next best choice would be Skyla. I would've said you would be lacking damage if this was pre expanded Blue grid, but I'm pretty sure he would be able to decimate the board.
And I have no idea what things to choose for master mode since I either die too quickly or can barely do any damage
Does this grid look right?
If you want a beefy first sync, you will NEED "TM Ramp Up 2"
also pick up that highlighted tile, it costs 0 energy
Also you're neglecting the sync move multiplers, which are all the new grid nodes to the right
I would run something like this instead: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2100/1800?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkdHyIkJikuLzAxMjM0NQ
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Well I’ve done what I can
But I think I’m still using the wrong parameters
Still can’t deal enough damage or survive long enough
Speaking of surviving, I’m tired I need sleep
Goodnight
Gn
Hey, I am kind of lost, for kukui I can keep Cerena + rain setter and a tank but besides that I don't have many ideas, can 5/5 sidney work for acerola?
or maybe use Cerena in her dark form?
or just run off type if I don't have the characters for that
like who?
How can i know without seeing your roster?
You could just use Cyrus for water weak instead
If you have expanded grid Cyrus, even easier
that's true
I have yeah
I can use him with Winona
for the rain
and just use a tank/healer like base Leaf?
yeah she works, even better cuz she is EXed
so for dark I should be running Sidney, Cerena, Shauna for example?
Yes, if you dont use Cerena elsewhere
What is the move order with her? never used her as a dark type
TM > brutal swing > water shuriken 2x > quick attack > brutal swing ?
use brutal swing before quick attack so you get the dark rebuff
oh I see, so TM > water shuriken 2x > brutal swing > quick attack > sync > brutal swing
sidney will be syncing, no?
I would only use one WS in the first sync cycle
You want to use her TM twice before the second sync
I mean B Move, sorry
yeah, assuming there are 3 enemies still alive
it counts once for each enemy it hits
Is Shauna EX'd?
mhm!
this champion stadium is tough for me, got up to round 4 but can’t get further because my only on-type DPS fucking dies to recoil
Roark moment
2 sides down is probably safer, probably
So close, yet so far
Being weak to Rock type is like not being weak to anything in this man
Roark is good, so is Olivia
1/5 carnie and Diantha my beloveds
True, idk why I didn’t think of that
I’ve managed to pull it off either way
So whatever
I need her😩😩😩😩😩
I just used SS Brock in the end
round 2 and round 5 were both off type solos but with a couple of random bad units in there for medal
my entire team is getting nuked by the first sync against acerola
im running 3k points, but not sure if my setup is correct
you dont need to run 3k pts
mhm
I really want the master spirits
which you dont really need when you do past 4.3k pts
beating the stage already gives 5
anyway
he is cracked, the grid expansion made him so good
that's true but this is barely anything, I will see how I can do
Maybe I should just run off type
the team should clear Acerola just fine, even if you fail quad queue somehow
what parameters are you using?
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
quad queue is not an issue with Cerena's B Move
do u know what is the recommended parameters setup for 3k pts
I dont think that mine is too efficient

Scroll down & read the opening sentence of the 15k guide
so run the bottom one and add some stuff?
no, choose the build which fits your team needs and your playstyle the most, then add more pts up to 3k
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using underrated dmg dealers is so fun

Naomi ex when DeNa? :<
I wish ebe were as easy as csmm when you get the gist of it
I managed to do it without asking for help once this week
Only had to ask twice for csmm 
https://streamable.com/4soqi7
what am i doing wrong 😩
nvm got it with all 3 still standing
I know you beat the stage, but I’m just gonna say this for future reference:
Your queuing until sync wasn’t fast/consistent enough, so you had a chance to sync before you were taken out
Second, Sydney prefers to use Brutal Swing cause it’s more powerful. And he actually prefers first sync as well cause Mega. Both of those increase his damage output.
But Shauna is EXed
I think my queuing was fixed on the try I cleared it
Yes. But have you read Sydney’s kit? Damage dealers that can Mega or have form changes do prefer to sync first.
The only ones I've heard that want first sync is Diantha/Gardevoir
There’s more than that.
Blue, Diantha, Karen and I guess Lisia? depends on what you wanna do with her
there is also Zinnia if you want to use her for Dragon Ascent
and Wally if you want to use Close Combat
base blue too afaik
May is also a good choice if she’s the main dealer.
Also pairs with form changes are Zerena, SS Lusamine for example
didn't know about sidney, I thought that Shauna's sync buff is more valuable
I think in Sidney’s case it can depend on the specific team
I do recommend at least trying Brutal Swing for DPS next time as he relies on that for damage.
Imo save nc serena for champion
cerena is fine there, water has more options than dark
Shouldve done that, I cant clear the champion with cyrus now
You’re using Cyrus? He should work really well for it. What’s the team?
Are you doing Hard Mode or Master Mode?
This team is fine btw 
mm, 3k pts
sorry for the ping
I ran off type against Olivia and Kahili so I don't have any other options really
Is this your first time doing Master Mode? Or have you been doing it for long?
I have tried master mode against all the different cs regions
tho it's my 2nd time going for max points
Last week was a lot easier
If you’re confident enough I guess ^^;
Could you show the params you’re using?
yeah sure, I had to do something sorry
huh lmao
Also to add on I’m pretty sure Sydney dps isn’t worth increasing compared to serena
you're honestly right, on my first attempt I synced with Cerena and she was hitting like 50k
on the second one I synced with sidney and he was only hitting for 24k
Wait why isn’t Special Damage Reduction (the 50 point one) on? That’s free points.
I’m also a bit sketch about that Df Up param
Have you checked the params sheet in the pins? We have one for 2.5k and a guide on how to adjust them for 3k
im running special with no status condition appliers on my team
yeah I followed that exactly but changed some stuff around
sorry
The 50 point damage reduction passives get bypassed entirely by critical hits, makes them pretty easy points to just take
really? good to know
Could we see gameplay after you’ve fixed your params?
yeah, I'll record it
im not even getting close to beating him
Your gameplay recorded?
wasnt my best attempt
but yeah
I think something is wrong, I'm lacking speed as well
Wait forget what I said
what
I’m gonna tell you something else: might be your parameters. I saw you had Df Up and that could be a factor. It also doesn’t hurt to lower your points here.
Make sure you’ve read the pins on our tips, too.
Your gameplay started out great, even with the missed queue you made up for it with the flinch denials. But post sync your queueing is a little messy, try & swap between TMs/moves better on your supporting pairs so Cyrus can consistently queue Hydro Pump. The second Spacial Rend also wasn't necessary, once you're at +2 crit go for Hydro Pump. Could also replace Dawn for a gauge support
But like Annie said do take note of the tips in the pins, Defense especially is iffy when you're trying to presync
lowered it by 500 pts and it was a lot easier
tyvm for the feedback:)
and ty both for the help
Managed to get 2500 points with this team
The white mom girl is my most recent acquisition, and damn her g-move tanks especially with Leon’s Master Skill
And Morty healing
And in a thingy that makes field effects such as Aura Veil and Sun infinite
I need help with teams for R1 and R2, for R3 I'll use groudon + camerupt + landorus on the olivia,since sun and ground zone stay permanent, for R4 toxic stall, for Kukui I'll use may + gloria + some support with R3 modifier for permanent rain
I was thinking on going on R1 against acerola with karen
Acerola would be tricky for R1 cause she has mixed moves and can buff both her Atk and Sp Atk. What’s your flying team like for Hala?
Kukui is champ (R5) btw, he has his own round param
I was going to poison stall hala on R4,I dont have a decent flying set,and on kahili I would go off-type with maybe rose and some speed support like skyla
I think they mean they’ll choose perma field effects for the round 1-4 parameter selection on the Kukui fight
They said R3 for Kukui. He’s Champ (R5), is he not?
What’s your Blue like?
Yes, but I think they meant that the additional parameter choice (since you choose a round 1-4 parameter on top of the round 5 one) they were gonna go with is perma field effects (which is round 3 this week)
I don’t have my game up, idk these things 
It happens
For context, if your Blue is 3/5+ and you can grid him, he is a great Flying damage dealer
I gave up on tryna get 15,000 points for now
Settled for a 11,500 finish for now
Need to wait until I can get more of the newer sync pairs that have come out in the time I’ve been gone
15k is not exactly needed as the rewards between 12.5k and 15k are very minimal.
It’s better to focus on improving your own roster (no new limited pairs necessary!) and get better at the game 
I’m just tryna get resources for EXing my units
Granted I don’t think I have any decent choices to EX right now
Yeah ik
11k is more than enough anyway
I played the game for the first 2 years, and basically quit afterwards
Popped in a couple times inbetween and dropped whatever free gems were being given out and got a couple extra sync pairs
The basic fundamentals haven’t changed all that much tbh
Here’s my EX roster rn
That can clear 12.5k (or 11k like you did before) just fine 
Feel free to reread up on our basics in #1010307000346878062
blue and pidgeot? 2/5
Maybe when there are different weaknesses, I don’t have much for Dark, Rock, or Flying
The ticket scouts will be a lifesaver for those gen pool pairs you don’t have
Though I did offtype 2500 points against Olivia with Leon, Morty and White Galar Ice Mom girl
Yeah he mainly wants 3/5
There’s always Kahili nuke
My other option is to see if you have any Kanto tickets to try for 3/5 Blue
I did get asthma Suit Lana & Tapu Lele, I also have a striker candy rn that I’m considering using on her, tho idk if it’s worth it if I can’t get her to 3/5 rn, but I could EX her rn if I want to
my flying types and EXs,gloria and may are saved for kukui and maxie is for olivia,Im thinking on trying rose against kahili,since his stone edge/max rockfall hits everyone
That’s for another channel, let’s stop before this goes on a further tangent ^^;
Can you do this other option, Zarc? 
no,outta of tickets
You can try poison stalling/off typing then. I’d honestly choose that over just plopping resources into Kahili (assuming she has nothing on her)
I beat hala off-type with NC red, nemona and phoebe
nemona to rush sync with her TM and phoebe to increase crit rate since NC red TM only boosts Sp atk
now I have kahili or acerola for R2, olivia is saved for R3
Either would be fine for R2/R4
Eh, Water is one of the most stacked types in the game, it’s not a huge deal
Cyrus great 
Finally got CSMM unlocked woo
Now to figure out teams to run, outside of the easy 3k points Rat team. 
Any recommended order to do these in?
buddy, you gotta remember that depends a tad bit on your teams
Fair. I meant more so anyone I should avoid for certain rounds?
I guess you could avoid Olivia and Acerola on round 1 since they use special moves, and if you are not using a poison immune tank (or able to cure it) for Kahili then avoid her on round 4, the Salamence has Toxic and Go Viral 9
Rip I saw this too late and now im doing R4 Kahili 
I do have supports that can deal with poison though
I usually use Olivia and Kukui for rock though so I guess I need to replace Kukui with someone else
I do have 1/5 Gordie and Lodge Raihan though but I haven't used either yet
lodge raihan's a support
tbh, Kahili might be your best bet. In her grid, she has:
- 4 Sync Move nodes
- Haymaker
- SEUP on TM
- ig DC4 on Peck (Doesn't matter all that much)
You should be able to nuke mid presync, especially if you got a Support EX at hand.
Flying/Rock/Ground in one week is pretty bad. Good luck mates.
Post PB blue solved any non Wise entry X2 flying weak tbfh
Ground without Naomi as a new account suuuucks
who should I use vs kahili? It's R4. I usually use Olivia and Kukui but the Toxic and Burn makes me nervous
whoops my bad
I already used Ingo btw but I still have Bertha
If you're concerned about statuses you can either adjust the Support or just reset if a status happens (I actually forgot that the Salamence has that stuff because it never came up during my Kahili clear this week, so it's definitely not guaranteed)
I wasn't sure which support to use in either case tbh
Could do something like Bertha + Olivia + Sonia and see how that works out
I run SSACynnthia/Bertha/Olivia against her on r3.
15k?
Yeah 15k
I mean I can send u my team for 13k
if that works for u
I used an offtype for it
not that hard honestly
but if you want to use on type
you can do roark
and also r4 right?
so you can use a sleep setter
to sleep chain
Who would be the better damage dealer for the dark weak fight?
Hard Mode or Master Mode?
Hard mode first time trying to clear





