#Champion Stadium

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north crown
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Ok Skyla, Lucy, MCchu. Poison and Trap EVERY OPPONENT. Finally, use pots on Skyla and PRAY it’s enough.

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Use Mcchu pots first cuz they’re more of a throwaway unit

steel kelp
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Is this stall or what

north crown
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OH YEAH YOU NEED GRID

icy sapphire
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I NEED EXTRA PARAMETER

north crown
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Uh someone get MCchu util grid I’m on a phone

north crown
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@mellow linden @rich needle @steel kelp plsget MCchu utility grid pomatools link

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@silver dirge pls

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Mass ping but we’re in the clock so it’s understandable

rich needle
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i have no idea how to use that tool no cap

steel kelp
rich needle
north crown
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LES GO

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WE GOT THE GRID

rich needle
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you know

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doesnt perma field coutney work

steel kelp
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I am speed

mellow linden
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This is gonna be the closest call in PMEX history, probably

silver dirge
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Someone did all 5 HSE stages in the last minute before the event ended so it's got competition SeleneLul

rich needle
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180k?

silver dirge
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Na just for the gems

rich needle
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o

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okay so by the way

steel kelp
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Yea no way you’re doing 180k in a minute

rich needle
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coutney with pema field is turbo easy

north crown
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When is maintenance?

steel kelp
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4 minutes

north crown
mellow linden
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In like 4 minutes, I think

rich needle
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im literally doing oldhead stuff

steel kelp
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9 pm est or whatever zone you are

north crown
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We need to settle on a strat

rich needle
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pressing exclusively bulldoze

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also ngl it would kinda suck if poison stall

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stalled past maint

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is that how it works

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i think it is

steel kelp
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Probably

icy sapphire
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who do I sync wiiittttth?!?!?!?

north crown
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Ok so Skyla, Courtney, MCchu new gameplan?

rich needle
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ye

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its really easy and safe

mellow linden
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If that’s the case then Courtney

icy sapphire
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IM ALREADY IN BATTLE GUH

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GRRR

rich needle
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well just take a reset

north crown
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Yeah spam Courtney sync

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Also for poison stall it doesn’t matter

rich needle
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go out and take the permanent field parmaeter @icy sapphire this is important

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then literally press ground wish 2 tms and spam bulldoze like your career depends on it

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and itll die

icy sapphire
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IF I HAVE TIME????

rich needle
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hurry along now

north crown
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You got 3 minutes quick switch to courtney and get perm field

manic mica
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F in the chat those who couldnt make the completion of CS this week

north crown
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I doubt a half assed poison stall team would be better than Courtney perma ground zone

rich needle
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weee

north crown
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Switch Lucy with Courtney

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NO WE HAVE LESS THAN A MINUTE LEFT

mellow linden
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Ahhhhhhh

rich needle
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i hope theyre in it

mellow linden
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DeNA why

north crown
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I hope they’re able to get in the match now

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Also how long is maintenace gonna last?

steel kelp
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Like 5 hours

rich needle
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im still in the game

mellow linden
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I think past reset

north crown
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Oh it’s time

steel kelp
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An hour past daily reset

rich needle
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op

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there it goes

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welp

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wonder if it went well

north crown
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I did my dailies 4 minutes before maintenance WEEZing

rich needle
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and it lasts 1 hour past reset so

icy sapphire
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welp

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it’s joever

rich needle
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unlucky

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mainentenace moment

icy sapphire
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my skyla got one shot

rich needle
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eh?

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howd that happen

icy sapphire
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blue sync

rich needle
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huh

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🤔

icy sapphire
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I have no idea either

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it just

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happened

mellow linden
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At least you can get type medal progress tomorrow and be able to jump into Master Mode week 1 of Kanto CS’ next run

rich needle
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i know my skylas basicaly max invested but

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it shouldnt have made that much of a diff

north crown
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Well time to plan for tomorrow so this doesn’t happen again

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Fighting weak Lorelei CaitlinSleeper

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Misty, Solgaleo, Plumeria and done

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Actually replace Misty with Shauna and done

icy sapphire
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screw it imma just stay up

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it’s not like I don’t wake up tired anyway

rich needle
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no maint last too long

steel kelp
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Play something else BlueYea

north crown
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You literally got no chance this week unless your game is somehow still up

toxic cobalt
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Let's not be down, learning experience is good

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but yes maintenance is five hours do not stay up

north crown
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Yeah like I said, I’m surprised Angie is even trying CS considering their roster

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gj beating the e4

icy sapphire
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never back down never give up fr

icy sapphire
north crown
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For Bruno, we proably need Dawn since we don’t got many max crit buffers, and his TM is kinda sus. We need that crit tho.

north crown
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Sadly they don’t have many stall tanks

icy sapphire
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considering how much pulling I did at the start

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which

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was a lot

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i feel like ss leaf would be a huge help

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buuuut my godawful rng when it comes to pulling units

mellow linden
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SS Leaf is more QoL for Poison stall teams

icy sapphire
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would beg to differ

wide adder
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the next week of CS should be live after maintenance ends right?

mellow linden
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Yeah, should be

manic mica
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That’s right

icy sapphire
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im planning on ex’ing ss red (praying it’s soon)

manic mica
north crown
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Lorelei [FIGHTING] - Shauna (or any crit buffer), Solgaleo, Plumeria
Bruno [WATER] - Dawn, SSGrimsley, uh
Agatha [GHOST] - Rosa, Giovanni, uh
Lance [DRAGON] Skyla, Iris, uh

Blue [Bug] either poison stall or Guzma shenanigans

manic mica
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From pins

north crown
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What does everyone think of my plan for Angie so far?

mellow linden
north crown
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This is their roster

manic mica
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That Lapras is tanky

wide adder
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i feel like using CSerena ontype is wasteful tbh when KrisNervous feraligatr exists. yet im still slightly tempted to just to see big funny numbers.

icy sapphire
north crown
mellow linden
toxic cobalt
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SS Red is a bit of a janky EX as haymaker is off-buff for him

icy sapphire
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and I don’t think I’ve got kris unless I’m wrong

north crown
mellow linden
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Well tbf if they don’t have him now they can just go get him after maintenance, but also fair enough

north crown
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We might need Misty for dragon weak, but also we might need her for stalling Blue too HildaCry

silver dirge
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Cyrus is free SeleneLul

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Legendary Adventure unit

icy sapphire
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thank god

wide adder
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i really wish a fav existed for fighting type by now.

mellow linden
wide adder
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cause im a bit tired of trying to use bea/wally teams on it

silver dirge
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Dw you won't be recommended limited pairs to help clear, suggestions are supposed to be as accessible as possible

north crown
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They literally have 0 books and leveling a x2 exp consumer doesn’t seem worth it for Angie atm

rich needle
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yeah true legendaries are kinda horrid for exp i forgot

north crown
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Tho I will admit having legendary adventure units would be a game changer

icy sapphire
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alright

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tell you what

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as soon as maintenance is over

north crown
icy sapphire
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I’ll grind legendary adventures

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if I knew which to grind

toxic cobalt
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All

north crown
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ALL

mellow linden
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I mean, there’s no actual grinding since it’s all 1-time clears

icy sapphire
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true

icy sapphire
mellow linden
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Fair enough

north crown
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Dw you got all week

toxic cobalt
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Story RedNah

steel kelp
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There is no story

north crown
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Tbh I just skipped all villain arc cutscenes

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Just watched it all on YT

icy sapphire
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fair enough

north crown
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We might require Sycamore for champion

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Misty maywork too

toxic cobalt
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Sycamore does not have slow xp group

north crown
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We need either tank

north crown
toxic cobalt
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Yep, so easy one to start

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~~Unless they change it in maintenance PoryWoke ~~

icy sapphire
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alright so

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priority is legendary adventures

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and books

steel kelp
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Just keep doing lodge and you’ll have plenty

icy sapphire
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lodge in general or just expeds

north crown
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Speaking of lodge, did you get all lodge upgrades?

icy sapphire
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know

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i never really use lodge

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there’s a lot of things I don’t use

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which I probably

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should

north crown
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Get those ASAP cuz they gives you more resource generation

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Anyways that’s offtopic so Imma come back to CS planning

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Sycamore is really braindead to use

icy sapphire
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im so confused as to why y’all are doin this for me HildaCry

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so kind frPhoeBePositive

silver dirge
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It's what the channel is for CalemRelieved

steel kelp
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Nee hee hee

icy sapphire
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oh, duh but still, an entire day basically ;-;

silver dirge
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But yea, great to see people helping SidneyYippee

steel kelp
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It’s a lie

north crown
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For me, it’s out of passion, wanting/watching others grow as players, and as planning practice for me.

icy sapphire
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im thinking pulling for more units

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but

steel kelp
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This game is comically easy

icy sapphire
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leaving my gems (if I even have any) to probably useless pulls is kinda brain dead

steel kelp
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Most things can be cleared with gen pool

icy sapphire
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MortySigh

i wish i had gems.. (not really)

icy sapphire
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but hey

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if I ever end up getting a 5* I never even intended to get and it’s actually good

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I’ll be happy

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which in turn leads me to the question if ash is still obtainable or just a one time thing

north crown
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Master Fair, so gl

icy sapphire
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oof

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big yikes

north crown
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Lorelei [FIGHTING] - Shauna (or any crit buffer), Solgaleo, Plumeria (for gauge)
Bruno [WATER] - Dawn, SSGrimsley, uh
Agatha [GHOST] - Rosa, Giovanni, MCchu
Lance [DRAGON] Skyla, Iris, Misty

Blue [Bug] Sycamore, Guzma, uh

icy sapphire
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hm

north crown
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Does anyone have any objections?

icy sapphire
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isn’t grass > water?

north crown
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What?

icy sapphire
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type advantage

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isn’t grass se towards water

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?

steel kelp
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No

north crown
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Those are the weaknesses

icy sapphire
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oh

steel kelp
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Stuff only has one weakness in this game to simplify things

north crown
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This also makes otherwise illegal type interactions possible (e.g electric attacks can hit ground types)

steel kelp
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Rats nuking ground weak content EthanGenius

icy sapphire
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I never understood the term nuking in poma

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isn’t that like

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a one shot on an enemy

silver dirge
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Big burst damage basically

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Usually refers to sync nukes but it can also be B-Moves max moves etc

steel kelp
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Primarily techs nuke

north crown
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SMUN/PMUN boosted moves:

steel kelp
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Not that strikers can’t techs just have an easier time

silver dirge
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Yep

steel kelp
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Techs in general do too much which is why they nerfed them

icy sapphire
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i don’t really use techs

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I feel like I should

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but I don’t

steel kelp
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They are a jack of all trades

toxic cobalt
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Each unit has its use and advantages, probably not a good idea to create broad generalisations about usefulness

icy sapphire
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ss red, mcchu and vanilla leaf really got me through story things

north crown
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Dw, f2p techs are generally worse than almost everything else

mellow linden
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Tech is a sliding scale of combining damage and utility

steel kelp
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Mc chu is pretty bad

north crown
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Hey it’s good for early game cuz free orbs

icy sapphire
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I mean I invested in mcchu because uh

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well I felt like I had to

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hm

north crown
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welp RIP to my luck

keen jasper
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R1: Sync buffs are stronger
R2: Stat drops are stronger
R3: Perma field effects
R4: Preemptive Reflect
Champion: Status conditions are more effective

toxic cobalt
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Is this better than last week?

north crown
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Wdym by that?

toxic cobalt
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Round params

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They’re good

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One dud only

paper summit
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imagine needing favorable params SerenaSip

lime raven
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Reset right?

paper summit
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yes? as usual

lime raven
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okay

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lets do this

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i meant for cs

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shouldve probably specified that

swift swan
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updated, really great params

keen jasper
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Welp, gonna do Focus Blast kill on Lorelei again

old orchid
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Finally i can use Fighting Zone on the second sync this week

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Fuck the crit shield tho

silver dirge
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Lorelei really choosing two of the most annoying gimmicks to run them together

old orchid
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She got hand

keen jasper
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Imagine picking Lorelei on R3 TabithaHehe

old orchid
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Imagine not presyncing Lorelei

silver dirge
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real

paper summit
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imagine not annihilating her with a Rei bmove TabithaHehe

silver dirge
keen jasper
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I can pre-sync her even before she gets crit shield, and that's using 2 non-limited units LoreleiGlance

old orchid
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imagine having Rei

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ArgentaL upcoming

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I foresee it

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imagine being pinged

keen jasper
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I thought it said imagine not having Rei

silver dirge
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@old orchid

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🏃‍♂️

old orchid
silver dirge
old orchid
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/dehelper Arch

silver dirge
paper summit
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bug weak Blue this time, hmm, that's gonna be fun

silver dirge
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I've been waiting to use SS Hilbert LucianScheme

paper summit
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that's cheating

silver dirge
keen jasper
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I've always been using SC Emmet as my main bug damage dealer

rich needle
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Cheating is fun

paper summit
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that being said, it'd be nice to get a strong bug that's not tied to super effective shenanigans

silver dirge
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Yea for sure

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And isn't Unovan PrycePain

rich needle
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Heh

paper summit
silver dirge
rich needle
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Interestingly that’s because unova had strong bugs

silver dirge
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Scizor:

rich needle
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Vol corona and genesect

silver dirge
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Heracross:

rich needle
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Scizor and heracross honestly I don’t like

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However

silver dirge
rich needle
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I acknowledge they are iconic

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But who’s an iconic mega heracross wielder

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I actually don’t know one

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Insert super obvious one I’m missing here

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Same goes for mega scizor actually

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Not that I can think of a super popular regular scizor user

sand karma
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Barry

silver dirge
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There's uh ... Wikstrom GretaCringe but I'd rather just someone else yoink it lol

rich needle
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See what I mean

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It’s like

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I can toss it to lucas I guessss(scizor)

keen jasper
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Aaron alt SabrinaPray

rich needle
knotty storm
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aaron alt

rich needle
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I did consider that

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But

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Is he popular

silver dirge
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I wonder if I can get away with DPS Aaron this week if I have Hilbert for rebuff HilbertHmm does he have any multipliers

rich needle
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Reasonably popular I’m sure but still funny

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Also that still leaves a mega scizor slot open

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Well

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I guess that’s not true

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God forbid it’s variety Aaron and scizor

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You know it’s true

steel kelp
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It’s happening now that you said it

wide adder
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Bug blue, hmm. Is there a support that can gauge sustain Gilbert + Alder together…? HilbertHmm Or do I have to forego alder due to gauge…

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8mg is a bit tough to gauge for…

old orchid
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i see Ingo

silver dirge
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NC Blue too probably

old orchid
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my man IngoUp is the original insane gauge battery

silver dirge
rich needle
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He is a zone

trail smelt
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Usual team worked as usual, if more slow and steady and less nuke immediately and win haha

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Time to make next week’s- oh

old orchid
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Giovanni & Mewtwo is your best option for Ghost type currently if you dont want to invest on Helena

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you can grid her with free orbs from her event right?

hushed lintel
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helena is the hex trainer ?

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i don't know if i have her free orbs

old orchid
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i recommend investing on her, so you can form a Ghost core with her and Giovanni

hushed lintel
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mmh ok

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so the team would be like hex trainer/giovani and anything that fits ?

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giovanni does the damage i g

keen jasper
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Finally, I can use Victrier with perma field effect

old orchid
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the support should be the one who helps both buffing offensive stats + supplying gauge

hushed lintel
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so something with sp atk and speed or move gauge

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hilbert with samurott ?

old orchid
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no he doesnt help with spatk

hushed lintel
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oh true

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then elio and prima ?

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he brings a bit of speed

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or is it too low ?

old orchid
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you can use the filter ingame

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Elio doesnt buff crit, so Helena requires 3 turns and a TM MPR to max crit

old orchid
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just a note, you dont need to build monotype teams

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i see Penny and Sabrina

hushed lintel
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i picked the wrong picture

keen jasper
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Oh shit, I just realized ghost zone also boosts Agatha's damage too

hushed lintel
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i did not expect helena to pack a punch like that

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lorelei however is not fun, can she stop dodging Rei ?

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🤣

old orchid
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avoid hitting her with supports

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some pairs have sure hit effect like Maylene or cant dodge like Thorton

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you can also buff team accuracy, with common options like Lillie or Lodge Elesa/Cynthia or gridded Maylene

hushed lintel
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i have red venusaur 5/5

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should i off type her ?

wide adder
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Good news. Managed to run it back with an ontype clear with my overloaded strength and hp params rather than needing to memorize the custom params

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Don’t entirely know how much of that damage was from r1 but

old orchid
wide adder
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I’m really happy to not need to customize params in kanto CyrusSweat

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If you have Darach you can just use him for -eva shenanigans like I did, weigh down on his grid is really nice

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Adding rei and a bulky support to that would clear even more easily than Bea I imagine

hushed lintel
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thordon is lvl 1

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thorton

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i don't have darach

old orchid
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how about Maylene

hushed lintel
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same 😢

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i used everything to lvl up helena

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maybe i can snatch her evasiveness with hoopa

old orchid
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if you cant/dont want to level up them to level 100 at least, try again until you succeed

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that works too

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remember not to hit her with other teammates, only Rei hitting her to avoid evasion stacking up

hushed lintel
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mmh so greninja might not be the play there too

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he is a terrible tank if he can't hit

old orchid
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just hit the sides, easy solution

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altho why do you use him here without using his Dark mode for Physical Move Up Next?

hushed lintel
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i used him with dark mode

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but i can't stack the 10 hits

old orchid
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since you aim to pre sync, worrying about bulk is not really needed, especially with Rei

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i suggest changing the tank

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a decent tank should be fine

hushed lintel
old orchid
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Lorelei only uses special moves, you know what kind of support will be useful there

hushed lintel
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blissey ? 🤣

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but she is also lvl 1

wide adder
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Even og misty would prob work

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If starmie is leveled

hushed lintel
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lvl 30

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and something

wide adder
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Rip

old orchid
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i lean towards Liza, who has aoe spdef and offensive buffs for Rei

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its only Monday, you have time to get exp books

hushed lintel
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it's hard, people that have been playing for years have so many ressources 🤣

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yeah

old orchid
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if you havent setup expedition teams in #1012298913279127582 yet, do it asap

hushed lintel
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i have

old orchid
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its a good passive farm

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good

hushed lintel
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i already collected it

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today

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right after the maintenance

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but i had helena and mewtwo to level

old orchid
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well, waiting is the key then

hushed lintel
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i am pretty sure in a month or two i'll have enough pokémon raised up to not care as much

old orchid
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all veterans had the same problem when they were new, even before Lodge was a thing

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so dont worry much about it

hushed lintel
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yeah synch grids and lvls

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is there a way to get more synch points except for events and the dailies ?

hushed lintel
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yes

old orchid
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have you checked the monthly exchange shop? iirc it has a good sync orb exchange rate

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tho you are limited to some exchanges

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TL is also a good passive sync orb farm

wide adder
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Just used lodge acerola ex unironically today lmao

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Here’s the params I’m using, note my teams are pretty stacked for most types

north crown
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I’ll test those params next week DawnNom

wide adder
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Next week kanto gone SophoKEK

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So will be a harder region

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God, Gilbert and Alder together felt almost like a cheat code. Both 4mg moves were almost oneshotting people even with these bulky params

undone ether
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For.blue.... i just queued up zapdos, sst red and burgh.

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Get flinched, para'd and stat debuffed

wide adder
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I used ncblue with them just to see how rediculous their moves would be post supp sync

wide adder
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1/5 alder 4/5 Gilbert

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Unova banner did a funny and gave me four genesects

undone ether
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Hows the dps/sync nuke?

wide adder
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Like 30k or so on techno blast, ~16k hbeam and I think 60k or so on sync on side

undone ether
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Heres what burgh can do at least

wide adder
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Iirc

undone ether
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Ill dip back to 14.5k for next week if its sinnoh or hoenn ooof.

hushed lintel
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bronzong lvl 1 worked @old orchid 🤣

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he got 29 lvl

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from 2500 pts lorelei

nova imp
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God damn I need a good water type

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I don’t have any striker or tech that’s good

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Can’t do it here

old orchid
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Cyrus exists

nova imp
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yeah ig but I still off type most things

old orchid
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give him rain and he wrecks ontype

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Cyrus has the best Water dps in term of accessible pairs

nova imp
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I only not off type blue, since zerena

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And Agatha since I have allister but still

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(And Giovanni)

nova imp
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She’s a fav

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But it can’t hurt waiting

old orchid
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no need to ping me

nova imp
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mb

old orchid
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in the mean time, dont ignore Cyrus

nova imp
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Just woke up

wide adder
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Cause I use her all the time for water content post powerboost

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Mainly didn’t this week cause felt like seeing big numbers with my new toys for last kanto week

old orchid
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yeah Kris is pretty solid

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the best accessible Water nuke actually

wide adder
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Kris nuke one shots almost every cs water stage turn 3 if you have her exd and set her up with hilbert or something

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And tm is surecrit iirc so not even rng roll for full crits

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Been loving how simple she is to use after the pb

old orchid
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the best comeback in history

wide adder
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Yeah I passed her off as not a great unit when I started, and now I get to use funny crocodile any time water weak shows up in cs. Totodile line is so silly I love them so much

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Just funny bitey crocs

old orchid
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Lodge Silver is good too, only in LG tho SeleneLul

wide adder
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I plan to try out lodge silver in the next lg if they don’t make the bosses too bad for him

hushed sorrel
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This week def feels harder than last week

wide adder
# keen jasper Now do 4k pts. with her

phone just died on me but finished my daily activities in time, ill prob see if i can do that for fun tomorrow tbh just for someth to do while waiting for datamine, assuming i do much on the game tomorrow ofc

wide adder
# hushed sorrel This week def feels harder than last week

for me this week was honestly easier, although it wasnt a big difference in difficulty. i mainly just realized last week that if CS goes beyond 3k, ill prob have to consider candying LuSSa, cause fitting psychic terrain and debuffs together is a bit awkward rn. having her proper nuke would prob make things smoother for clearing a psychic stage before anime just dies

old orchid
#

aside from Bug type which most people dont have good options for, all weaknesses are loaded with accessible good units

wide adder
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yeah, with 4/5 gilbert tho im prob not gonna struggle with bug content till bug HSE

hushed sorrel
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I'm just doing duos with my MFsSophoKEK

silver dirge
old orchid
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@ nov Silver slander

silver dirge
wide adder
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i hope GuzmaCease gets grid expansion next month tbh, i had a dream of if he got like unfort strike or someth the other night. TabithaHehe would be nice to give funni First Impression man more of a purpose in modern poma

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and i cant think of much else they could do to make him relevant

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without reviving coop

silver dirge
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They're just going to give him MP Rekindle on First Impression or some shit & be done with it

wide adder
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mp rekindle wouldn't do anything though due to first impressions condition...

old orchid
#

Pin Missile CS2

wide adder
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the move's kinda a dead one after turn 1

silver dirge
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It has 3 MPs it's already useless

wide adder
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i just want guzma to not be meme levels of bad

silver dirge
old orchid
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no i mean Critical Sting 2, which is basically useless

hushed lintel
#

what are you guys using for blue that's accessible ?

hushed sorrel
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1st time using NC Leaf as a tank for CS after I caked and cadied her for HS. She is gangster

old orchid
#

you can try poison stalling or offtype

hushed lintel
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i have lusamine 3/5

old orchid
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she is not easy to use, and has worse performance than Burgh

hushed sorrel
silver dirge
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Poison stall is prolli the way to go

hushed lintel
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i have victini ohoh colress left

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for uber

wide adder
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base lusa dies to a stray breeze without ex, and even with ex is rough considering statline like gio and i struggle with survivability on gio too

hushed sorrel
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That's a sick team

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Try that

hushed lintel
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i'll need to find some parameters

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but i'll try

hushed sorrel
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Sec I'll give you mine

manic kiln
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Pinsir and beedrill is a great budget combo for bug DawnNom

hushed sorrel
silver dirge
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It should work with Colress anyway, but just be weary the output difference between NC Leaf/SS Hilda vs Colress/SS Hilda is going to be pretty big

hushed sorrel
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They have morty though

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Should be all good

nova imp
hushed lintel
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do i ex with morty or victini first ?

old orchid
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if Morty is EX, sync with him first

hushed lintel
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mmh did not work at all 🤣

hushed sorrel
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What move level are your pairs

hushed lintel
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140 140 and 125 for colress

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oh move level

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1/5 each

hushed sorrel
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Ooo

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Then just go poison stall 😂

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Do you have ss leaf

hushed lintel
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with articuno ?

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or with venusaur

cinder summitBOT
hushed lintel
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oh yeah i do have her

old orchid
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you know the basics of stalling strat right

hushed lintel
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i haven't tried it yet but i have seen videos

hushed sorrel
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Ss leaf. Sycamore. Janine

toxic cobalt
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Not sycamore , use a sync healer

hushed sorrel
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Clear any stage PrycePain

hushed lintel
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ss leaf has a random chance to poison people no ?

hushed sorrel
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Or sync healer but I personallt like Sycamore

hushed sorrel
toxic cobalt
old orchid
hushed sorrel
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O when did it happen

hushed lintel
hushed sorrel
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Yes

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It's passive

toxic cobalt
hushed lintel
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50 % so i guess spam razor leaf until everyone is poisoned

hushed sorrel
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Yes usually first 2 moves no poison I just reset but they hardly happens

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Haven't poison stall for a while now 😂

hushed lintel
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janine

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ok

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what lvl they should be minimum ?

toxic cobalt
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100

hushed sorrel
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Hmm I mean as long as you can survive sync

hushed lintel
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really they don't need more ? they don't die from sync ?

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is there a better unit than janine ?

hushed sorrel
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No Janine is poison stall God haha

hushed lintel
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with her spider not her bat

toxic cobalt
hushed lintel
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right ?

hushed sorrel
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Yes spider

hushed lintel
#

does she need more stars or as is ?

hushed sorrel
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Like auroch said use a synchro healer as tank

hushed lintel
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she is lvl 1 on my game

hushed sorrel
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So healer. Ss leaf. Janine

toxic cobalt
hushed sorrel
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Yea just level her this poison stall is like your future free pass for any cs stage

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So worth investing

toxic cobalt
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Just use lv 1 Janine LeafWink

hushed lintel
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LOL

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i'll try it i beaten lorelei with lvl 1 bronzong

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i am just looking for syncro healers

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i have sableye

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and lily

hushed sorrel
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Hymn

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No

old orchid
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Fall Caitlin it is

hushed sorrel
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Lol

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O really?

toxic cobalt
old orchid
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so true CaitlinSleeper

hushed sorrel
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Use one of the bp or lodge one imo

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Okie

toxic cobalt
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Is this permanent field round??? BarryPogChamp

hushed sorrel
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Just low hp. I guess her buff and def stats are ok

toxic cobalt
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She has mega for more stats

hushed sorrel
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Still look similar to an ss elesa haha

toxic cobalt
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Shun the nonbeliever

hushed sorrel
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Should be all good I guess. Some good tiles on grid

toxic cobalt
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EZ clear

hushed lintel
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it's going o be interesting 🤣

toxic cobalt
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Lv1 hype

hushed sorrel
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Janine will die to sync😂

hushed sorrel
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But prob don't need her after she max debuff

hushed lintel
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lvl 1 spider did it

hushed sorrel
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Buwwhahah nice!

hushed lintel
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who needs xp ?

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🤣

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i wish i could rename some of my pairs

icy sapphire
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so I did some legendary adventures

rigid flint
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Very nice!

lost gulch
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ngl for blue

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i had to offtype

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SC zinnia works really well here

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bug pool needs more variety

zealous karma
grave wyvern
spare holly
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Is it possible to make Guzma & Golisopod work for 3K CSMM without SC Ingo or SC Steven?

old orchid
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yes, but you might have to go post sync depending on comp

keen jasper
nocturne pawn
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golisopod is very uhhhh

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the fact his own tm makes first impression fail is just

silver dirge
spare holly
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I’m still waiting for his powerboost smh

silver dirge
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Have you used your CCalem?

spare holly
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not yet

silver dirge
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HilbertHmm I have a feeling you can scrape through with a defense debuffer, CCalem and Guzma but not sure. Can give it a shot in a bit if it'll help

old orchid
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when your only sync multiplier is Critastrophe:

silver dirge
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Hoping he gets the Hilda/Elesa grid expansion treatment

old orchid
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DeNA: Okay add Standfast 9 to his grid, got it

silver dirge
vestal echo
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Any thoughs here? Trying 3k

keen jasper
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Which fight are you trying to do currently and what round?

old orchid
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Lorelei, R4

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If you want to stick to Bea, try Argenta + speed buffer

keen jasper
# vestal echo

I'm lazy to ask search through your roster, but do you have Lillie/Clefairy?

vestal echo
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My bea seems bad

keen jasper
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What move level?

old orchid
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No need to use Lillie, Argenta already buffs accuracy

vestal echo
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1/5 afaik

keen jasper
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Hmmmm ok

keen jasper
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Argenta/Bea/SS Morty

old orchid
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Any speed buffer works, especially if you want to save Morty for R5

keen jasper
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Unless you think SS Morty will be overkill

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But there's Blue so I'd just so use SS Morty for R5

vestal echo
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Id prefer no bea. She dies on first sync fully buffed

silver dirge
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You should be pre syncing

old orchid
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You have to defeat her before Crit Shield at all cost

keen jasper
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Yeah, pre-sync

old orchid
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Unless you stall

silver dirge
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If you tackle the evasion gimmick (Argenta buffs accuracy) and go for the SuppEX first, Bea should clear it pretty smoothly

keen jasper
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Yeah, Argenta will buff attack, Blue will buff speed and crit

silver dirge
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Argenta also buffs speed by 4 PSerenaDrool

vestal echo
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I dont Think i Can before crit shield

silver dirge
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Have you tried Argenta/Bea/Defense Debuffer?

old orchid
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Go for offensive params

keen jasper
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Yeah, NC Blue also increases your team's defensive stats by 1 every time he uses Discharge (unless it misses, but it won't since you have Argenta)

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And also your NC Blue is 4/5, which means he has Satisfied Snicker and Overwhelm for more survivability

silver dirge
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Maybe just send a quick pic of your params so we can see if there's anything drastic that should be changed

keen jasper
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But yes, show us your parameters please

vestal echo
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Im sort of swapping em alot

silver dirge
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Jeez

old orchid
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You chose a lot of bulk params

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Ally Healing is a free param, for example

silver dirge
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You're stacking an insane amount of HP & Strength and you've gone and picked up Defense params

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and max sync countdown

keen jasper
# vestal echo

Defensive parameters? Damn, you're brave for even trying this

old orchid
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Also Strike x3 dmg with Bea

vestal echo
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How Dafuq should i Else reach 3k

silver dirge
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Support x3 damage too

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Have you read the 3k guide in pins? And have you cleared 2.5k consistently in the past?

keen jasper
vestal echo
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It did work for other runs mostly lmao 😄

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Yes. Many times. I did 14,5k last week tho

keen jasper
silver dirge
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Standard Dmg Reduction is off as well

old orchid
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Adding bulk is punishing on harder regions, i dont recommend doing that unless you are certain your units can clear stages easily

silver dirge
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You need to understand what the params do & when you should pick up which options

calm marsh
keen jasper
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If you do these parameters on harder regions like Hoenn, Sinnoh and Kalos, you won't even make half HP on your enemies

vestal echo
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which ones are considering bulks? adding the same one or?

silver dirge
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Bulk is HP & Strength

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Defense I'm not even considering because you should be avoiding that under all circumstances for pre sync

swift swan
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The big no no: defenses
Only stack these if you have insane nukers: HP
The safest pick: Strength

vestal echo
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i felt like adding strength is no go mostly,

keen jasper
silver dirge
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But you should have offenses maxed in the params, POH 1 & 2 are pretty much free presync

keen jasper
swift swan
vestal echo
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hm ok, let me cook a new set up quickly and lmk thoughs

swift swan
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most units can presync strength 9-10 rather comfortably epecially in easier regions

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if you pick more offense oriented params, the strength can go lower

vestal echo
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yeah idk, cant seem to figger it out atm, mb i just reset for tomorrow XD

rich needle
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Pre sync is cringe

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Take hp

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(Don’t do this if your units aren’t actually really strong)

north crown
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@rich needle Could you briefly cover me on Marquina's progress or would you rather solo help?

rich needle
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I just woke up actually so I am also in the dark

north crown
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oh what the hell who was helping them?

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omg I'ma have to backread for this bs CaitlinSleeper

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@keen jasper If you don't mind, what's Marquina's progress looking like? HM or MM? Round?

keen jasper
#

Parameters
#1009554906568462476 message

north crown
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wht pairs did they use

old orchid
north crown
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already?

keen jasper
#

There

north crown
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also HM or MM?

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oh waitaminute params I'm dumb RileyHaha

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hold on why are they not picking up Standard Damage Reduction..?

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any decent 3/5 Bea team is a free clear what the hell

keen jasper
north crown
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ok I skimmed and it looks like Marq. updated the params, but unfortunately they didn't share the current params MortySigh

oblique karma
#

Any tips for agatha

north crown
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I'll just build a champion team

north crown
oblique karma
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Cause I was trying to use ssr cynthia

north crown
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oh then replace Lucian with her WEEZing

oblique karma
#

Yeah but I do also have anni Lillie but not doing as much damage as I'd hope...think it's parameters

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Might have to stream lol...was thinking for support Halloween Caitlin

north crown
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what move level is AnniLillie?

oblique karma
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3/5

north crown
#

EX?

oblique karma
#

Yeah

north crown
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standard nuke grid should've wiped the stage

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check your params again maticulously

oblique karma
#

I think maybe bc I put physical damage parameters? Let me pull it up

north crown
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physical damage parameters? bro that doesn't matter as long as AnniLillie wipes most of the stage with her first sync

oblique karma
north crown
# oblique karma
  1. Phys/Spe Dmg Reduction are free [100] points cuz they are bypassed with crit
  2. Stat Cond/Interference is another free [100]
  3. Why the hell do you have Special Damage Reduction 8? AnniLillie's sync is gonna suffer. [-100]
  4. Get Strength 3 [300]
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reason why I suggested Strength over Atk ^N is cuz Strength is additive, while Atk ^N is multiplicative

oblique karma
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Ight got it, managed to do it with strength 6

north crown
# vestal echo

For Marquina, it's joever. they got 4/5 SSHilbert EX, so literally any decent team that buffs SpAtk and Speed while living presync works.

toxic cobalt
#

A reminder to regulars here to be a bit less cavalier about saying Kanto is the easiest when trying to help less experienced players

vestal echo
north crown
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ask someone else I'm busy atm

mellow linden
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Pre-Sync means you’re KOing before the opponent can Sync at all

rich needle
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Okay so very off topic but

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Nc blue and nc leaf are such insane cheat codes

left storm
#

Another fun week

Palmer +20 hp +4 Def +2 STR

rain turret
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need help with agatha

north crown
rain turret
#

and lorelei too,I was thinking on going off-type on both,with NC red and SS hilda as main dmg dealers on them(I wanna save poison stall for blue)

north crown
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also what round?

rain turret
#

round 3

north crown
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oh then definitely get EVictor as R3 param is permanent field

north crown
rain turret
north crown
rain turret
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oh,then I could swap skyla for misty

north crown
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yeah that should do the trick

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if you still have sycamore, he's a free win button

rain turret
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I already used it I think,lemme check

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yeah,used

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my supports,hop was already used too

north crown
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oh BPMorty perfect! He's a good replacement cuz max defenses, synchro healing, and skyla pots on grid

rain turret
#

for the poison stall team right?

north crown
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yeh

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also use Viola instead of Lucy, as she can trap and debuff spatk, while the poison is already taken care of by Oleana

surreal forge
rain turret
north crown
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oh yeah right

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then u can literally grab any trapper or heck, even another tank

left storm
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Oof

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Sorry chat scrolled

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And I replied to wrong message

north crown
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it's fine, I wouldn't have to type that myself IngoUp

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the question I was asking myself is: which e4 should zarc do on r3-4?

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@rain turret fighting DPS?

rain turret
#

I always forget wtf is dps

north crown
#

damage unit

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dps = damage per second

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broken english if you rip out that acronym, but it's convenient to type so

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like whe people say "DPS unit"

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I should really get used to typing dmg instead

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Also for the extra tank for poison stall, Misty might be your best choice due to evasion/ridicule shenanigans.

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OH HOLDUP HOW DID I MISS SwiMisty? The two misties can team up here

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waitaminute that's bad synergy as there will be too much grad heals, and it's not optimal to use Misty's TM with SwiMisty's TM

wicked ibex
#

Does anyone know why Agatha sometimes stops using sync move?
Like she was supposed to use sync after TM but she didn't queue immediately for some reason, even though I finished syncing a while ago.
Has anyone ever had that happen?

north crown
hushed sorrel
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Can 1/5 alder clear blue?

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Just got 1 from mixed lol

silver dirge
#

yep just bring a gauge support SeleneLul

wicked ibex
rain turret
#

finally finished agatha with victor,evelyn and tina

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now onto lorelei

rain turret
#

since this is all I have,I was thinking on going off-type with NC red

crimson jewel
#

Or off-type if u wanna

mellow linden
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3 damage-dealers is not a good team

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Bea/an Attack + crit Support/a 3rd team member would be far stronger

rain turret
crimson jewel
#

I see

steel kelp
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That doesn’t matter

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The damage reduction rounds hardly affect you

silver dirge
#

Yeah, crits bypass the shields anyway

peak stirrup
#

Would Aaron be better than SS Acerola with bug bros vs blue?

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Actually he wouldn’t because he wouldn’t give 8 PMUN. Answered my own question. 😒

rain turret
#

finished lorelei with nc red, lodge elesa and giovanni persian and I even got to do 12k,now I just need to get 3k on blue for my 1st 15k

rain turret
#

which parameters should I add on the 2500 preset to get the 3k with poison stall?

hushed sorrel
#

Lapras felt really chunky for physical attacker. Is it because of reflect? What can I use to remove that?

rain turret
#

@north crown a lil help?

hushed sorrel
#

So piercing gaze is what I need

rain turret
hushed sorrel
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Grats!

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Figured out the poison stall params all by yourself too!

rain turret
#

true,had to remove the healing and add sync countdown parameters

nova imp
#

quick question concerning the presets for csmm

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what are these about?

silver dirge
nova imp
#

ah

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thats what that refered to

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I read the pins and was trying to figure it out

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eh not really what im going for rn

silver dirge
#

By picking up max sync countdown you can cut off a good chunk of pts from your strength/HP

nova imp
#

hm yeah

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Im tryna off type with akari

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lorelei

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not sure if its a good idea but I dont wanna struggle with non-exed solgaleo again

silver dirge
#

That strat probably isn't for you then atm, you'll need some sort of denial/strong nuke to play with sync CD. Otherwise you'll get wiped by their sync

nova imp
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yeah I wont use denial

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Ill just do basic off type

noble plaza
#

Anyone I should save or avoid for certain rounds?

nova imp
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theyre going to come in handy

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use shw ball grid for giovanni

noble plaza
#

Oh I meant who I should go against on certain rounds but thank you

old orchid
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Avoid fighting Lorelei on perma field effect round if you cant pre sync her

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Other than that you can do rounds in any order

noble plaza
nova imp
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aaa ping

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mb

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ik u hate it

old orchid
nova imp
#

really?

silver dirge
#

If you are able to pre sync it's all good

nova imp
#

I was thinking of just nuking

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with double critical strike 2

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and using alola grimsley

silver dirge
#

If not you're giving her permanent crit shield and she'll set up reflect

nova imp
#

kimono thing

old orchid
#

I forgot to ask, is Akari 3/5 at least?

nova imp
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no, why?

silver dirge
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Because Akari lacks a nuke at 1/5

nova imp
#

uh I usually do fine with her?

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idk

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ill try it out

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if it doesnt work ill just poison stall again...

old orchid
#

You want to clear before the crit shield, which Akari cant

nova imp
#

even with double critical strike 2?

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and perma field?

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and -6 defense?

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I think thats kinda doable no?

silver dirge
#

You probably won't output enough damage by the time Lorelei sets up crit shield (one turn before her sync). Give it a try tho and see how it goes

nova imp
#

alright

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btw

silver dirge
#

If Lorelei does set up the shield it's game over

nova imp
#

I have cake on akari

nova imp
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still have that ss

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its my first and only ex caker

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since im undecisive on whether I should give support to nc serena or ss serena

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but im getting out of track

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ill send a video

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of my gameplay with that

old orchid
#

Akari lacks firepower to nuke at 1/5, so she entirely depends on the other dmg dealer

rigid flint
#

A very worthwhile decision tbh (assuming you'll eventually 3/5 her)

nova imp
#

I dont have any other zoner so LanceShrug

rigid flint
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That's fair

nova imp
#

quick question

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does putting 3x tech and striker also apply to zoners and sprinters?

rigid flint
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It does not

silver dirge
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If by zoners you mean the Field role

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Because e.g. Courtney sets zone and is a Tech

nova imp
#

yeah

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thats what I meant

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these type of tech units, like hw iris

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shouldve gotten the field ex role

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and then we get tech role calem

rigid flint
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Huge nuke fr

silver dirge
#

Indeed

noble plaza
#

Should I try to verse Lorelei with Solgaleo or Rei?

rigid flint
#

I would say use Solgaleo since it has accuracy

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But Rei's also really strong

noble plaza
#

Oh good point

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Oh by the way Rei is 1/5

rigid flint
#

Ah

noble plaza
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If that matters

rigid flint
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Then maybe stick with Solga

silver dirge
#

I think you can just BMove buke with rei tbh

rigid flint
#

as long as it doesn't miss

silver dirge
#

Try not to hit em too much with sides so she doesn't buff evasion

rigid flint
#

Yeah

silver dirge
rigid flint
#

Hit the sides

rigid flint
silver dirge
#

PrycePain the worst fr

rigid flint
#

You could always do the funny double focus blast team

noble plaza
#

Wait does Lorelei set up hail?

rigid flint
#

Nope

noble plaza
#

Oh wow

silver dirge
#

Crit shield presync & reflect post sync

rigid flint
#

Yeah

noble plaza
#

Ewww

rigid flint
#

And evasion +1 on every hit

noble plaza
#

Eww

silver dirge
rigid flint
#

Hey hey when it hits it's extremely satisfying :D

#

But yeah

noble plaza
#

Hmmm. How do I deal with crit shield?

rigid flint
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When it comes to +6 acc vs +6 evasion I swear it's a 50/50 chance of hitting

noble plaza
#

I have Bea

rigid flint
noble plaza
#

Oh she's 3/5, I forgot IrisDerp

rigid flint
#

Or if you want you could post sync and wait it out since she tends to use TMs after sync but it's generally more risky

silver dirge
rigid flint
#

😭

#

70 accuracy more like 30 accuracy

silver dirge
silver dirge
rigid flint
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I made a dumb team so I had to live with the consequences of post syncing

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But yeah try to take her out before crit shield

rigid flint
silver dirge
noble plaza
#

If I'm going to try Bea I should probably use Rei then

silver dirge
#

Fym remind you to use NC Blue

silver dirge
rigid flint
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I only ever remember to use him in electric teams ok

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It's not my fault ValeriePlead

silver dirge
#

HelenaStare Uh huh

rigid flint
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But yeah don't use a mixed team like me

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Be smart and don't make your life hell

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Rei and Bea would work well together, at that point they just need a speed support and someone who can max their attack

nova imp
#

yo

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hear me out

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focus miss team

noble plaza
rigid flint
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Now we're talking

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Yeap

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FB Wally and Rei with SS Brendan

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Should have just stuck with using special attackers

noble plaza
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So Rei's Tripple Arrow Barrage missed right before he was supposed to KO the Lapras as Crit Shield was queued
But he still managed to ko with sync after a meteor assault and I was fine, thankfully

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Who should I pair with Cyrus for R4?

rigid flint
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May, for sure

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Do you have SS Blue by any chance?

noble plaza
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I already used him PrycePain

rigid flint
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Oof

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Any special supports you have in mind?

noble plaza
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I have NC Blue, Sycamore, Lodge Dawn, Rosa

noble plaza
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why wouldn't you? PetrelWTF

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oh, wait, you mean for dragon weak