#Champion Stadium
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Is this stall or what
OH YEAH YOU NEED GRID
I NEED EXTRA PARAMETER
Uh someone get MCchu util grid I’m on a phone
Status condition
@mellow linden @rich needle @steel kelp plsget MCchu utility grid pomatools link
@silver dirge pls
Mass ping but we’re in the clock so it’s understandable
i have no idea how to use that tool no cap
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.

I am speed
This is gonna be the closest call in PMEX history, probably
Someone did all 5 HSE stages in the last minute before the event ended so it's got competition 
180k?
Na just for the gems
Yea no way you’re doing 180k in a minute
coutney with pema field is turbo easy
When is maintenance?
4 minutes
1/5 and also wtf
In like 4 minutes, I think
im literally doing oldhead stuff
9 pm est or whatever zone you are
We need to settle on a strat
pressing exclusively bulldoze
also ngl it would kinda suck if poison stall
stalled past maint
is that how it works
i think it is
Probably
who do I sync wiiittttth?!?!?!?
Ok so Skyla, Courtney, MCchu new gameplan?
If that’s the case then Courtney
well just take a reset
go out and take the permanent field parmaeter @icy sapphire this is important
then literally press ground wish 2 tms and spam bulldoze like your career depends on it
and itll die
IF I HAVE TIME????
hurry along now
You got 3 minutes quick switch to courtney and get perm field
F in the chat those who couldnt make the completion of CS this week
I doubt a half assed poison stall team would be better than Courtney perma ground zone
weee
Ahhhhhhh
i hope theyre in it
DeNA why
Like 5 hours
im still in the game
I think past reset
Oh it’s time
An hour past daily reset
I did my dailies 4 minutes before maintenance 
and it lasts 1 hour past reset so
my skyla got one shot
blue sync
At least you can get type medal progress tomorrow and be able to jump into Master Mode week 1 of Kanto CS’ next run
i know my skylas basicaly max invested but
it shouldnt have made that much of a diff
Well time to plan for tomorrow so this doesn’t happen again
Fighting weak Lorelei 
Misty, Solgaleo, Plumeria and done
Actually replace Misty with Shauna and done
no maint last too long
Play something else 
You literally got no chance this week unless your game is somehow still up
Let's not be down, learning experience is good
but yes maintenance is five hours do not stay up
Yeah like I said, I’m surprised Angie is even trying CS considering their roster
gj beating the e4
never back down never give up fr
ty
For Bruno, we proably need Dawn since we don’t got many max crit buffers, and his TM is kinda sus. We need that crit tho.
Sounds like a call to stall 
Sadly they don’t have many stall tanks
considering how much pulling I did at the start
which
was a lot
i feel like ss leaf would be a huge help
buuuut my godawful rng when it comes to pulling units
SS Leaf is more QoL for Poison stall teams
would beg to differ
the next week of CS should be live after maintenance ends right?
Yeah, should be
That’s right
im planning on ex’ing ss red (praying it’s soon)
Lorelei [FIGHTING] - Shauna (or any crit buffer), Solgaleo, Plumeria
Bruno [WATER] - Dawn, SSGrimsley, uh
Agatha [GHOST] - Rosa, Giovanni, uh
Lance [DRAGON] Skyla, Iris, uh
Blue [Bug] either poison stall or Guzma shenanigans
From pins
What does everyone think of my plan for Angie so far?
I’d recommend EXing 5-6 Supports before EXing other roles. Of course, if SS Red is a big favorite he can take priority
This is their roster
That Lapras is tanky
i feel like using CSerena ontype is wasteful tbh when
feraligatr exists. yet im still slightly tempted to just to see big funny numbers.
if I remember correctly, I have shauna, ssgrim, solga, Rosa, and skyla leveled
If u have a decent roster, feel free to splurge on Bruno
Wynaut Cyrus against Bruno since he’s not being used against Lance?
SS Red is a bit of a janky EX as haymaker is off-buff for him
and I don’t think I’ve got kris unless I’m wrong
I don’t see him on Angie’s roster, and the fact that they don’t have any resource makes me lean towards Iris
Well tbf if they don’t have him now they can just go get him after maintenance, but also fair enough
We might need Misty for dragon weak, but also we might need her for stalling Blue too 
i really wish a fav existed for fighting type by now.
If Cyrus was RNG to obtain I wouldn’t have even brought him up
cause im a bit tired of trying to use bea/wally teams on it
Dw you won't be recommended limited pairs to help clear, suggestions are supposed to be as accessible as possible
They literally have 0 books and leveling a x2 exp consumer doesn’t seem worth it for Angie atm
yeah true legendaries are kinda horrid for exp i forgot
Tho I will admit having legendary adventure units would be a game changer
You have Wally. He even counters Lorelei’s evasion!
All
ALL
I mean, there’s no actual grinding since it’s all 1-time clears
true
i mean as in rushing through them
Fair enough
Dw you got all week
Story 
There is no story
fair enough
Sycamore does not have slow xp group
We need either tank
That’s news to me
Just keep doing lodge and you’ll have plenty
lodge in general or just expeds
Speaking of lodge, did you get all lodge upgrades?
I do not
know
i never really use lodge
there’s a lot of things I don’t use
which I probably
should
Get those ASAP cuz they gives you more resource generation
Anyways that’s offtopic so Imma come back to CS planning
Sycamore is really braindead to use
It's what the channel is for 
Nee hee hee
oh, duh but still, an entire day basically ;-;
But yea, great to see people helping 
It’s a lie
For me, it’s out of passion, wanting/watching others grow as players, and as planning practice for me.
This game is comically easy
leaving my gems (if I even have any) to probably useless pulls is kinda brain dead
Most things can be cleared with gen pool

i wish i had gems.. (not really)
So true
but hey
if I ever end up getting a 5* I never even intended to get and it’s actually good
I’ll be happy
which in turn leads me to the question if ash is still obtainable or just a one time thing
Grimsley and Glacia: “Allow us to introuduce ourselves.”
Master Fair, so gl
Lorelei [FIGHTING] - Shauna (or any crit buffer), Solgaleo, Plumeria (for gauge)
Bruno [WATER] - Dawn, SSGrimsley, uh
Agatha [GHOST] - Rosa, Giovanni, MCchu
Lance [DRAGON] Skyla, Iris, Misty
Blue [Bug] Sycamore, Guzma, uh
hm
Does anyone have any objections?
isn’t grass > water?
What?
No
Those are the weaknesses
oh
Stuff only has one weakness in this game to simplify things
This also makes otherwise illegal type interactions possible (e.g electric attacks can hit ground types)
Rats nuking ground weak content 
I never understood the term nuking in poma
isn’t that like
a one shot on an enemy
Big burst damage basically
Usually refers to sync nukes but it can also be B-Moves max moves etc
Primarily techs nuke
SMUN/PMUN boosted moves:
Not that strikers can’t techs just have an easier time
Yep
Techs in general do too much which is why they nerfed them
They are a jack of all trades
Each unit has its use and advantages, probably not a good idea to create broad generalisations about usefulness
ss red, mcchu and vanilla leaf really got me through story things
Dw, f2p techs are generally worse than almost everything else
Tech is a sliding scale of combining damage and utility
and others
Mc chu is pretty bad
Hey it’s good for early game cuz free orbs
welp RIP to my luck
R1: Sync buffs are stronger
R2: Stat drops are stronger
R3: Perma field effects
R4: Preemptive Reflect
Champion: Status conditions are more effective
Is this better than last week?
Wdym by that?
imagine needing favorable params 
Fun police
Reset right?
yes? as usual
updated, really great params
Welp, gonna do Focus Blast kill on Lorelei again
Finally i can use Fighting Zone on the second sync this week
Fuck the crit shield tho
She got hand
Imagine picking Lorelei on R3 
Imagine not presyncing Lorelei
real
imagine not annihilating her with a Rei bmove 

I can pre-sync her even before she gets crit shield, and that's using 2 non-limited units 

/dehelper Arch

bug weak Blue this time, hmm, that's gonna be fun
I've been waiting to use SS Hilbert 
that's cheating

I've always been using SC Emmet as my main bug damage dealer
Cheating is fun
that being said, it'd be nice to get a strong bug that's not tied to super effective shenanigans
that too, their monopoly is ridiculous lol

Interestingly that’s because unova had strong bugs
Scizor:
Vol corona and genesect
Heracross:

I acknowledge they are iconic
But who’s an iconic mega heracross wielder
I actually don’t know one
Insert super obvious one I’m missing here
Same goes for mega scizor actually
Not that I can think of a super popular regular scizor user
Barry
There's uh ... Wikstrom
but I'd rather just someone else yoink it lol
Aaron alt 

aaron alt
I wonder if I can get away with DPS Aaron this week if I have Hilbert for rebuff
does he have any multipliers
Reasonably popular I’m sure but still funny
Also that still leaves a mega scizor slot open
Well
I guess that’s not true
God forbid it’s variety Aaron and scizor

You know it’s true
It’s happening now that you said it
Bug blue, hmm. Is there a support that can gauge sustain Gilbert + Alder together…?
Or do I have to forego alder due to gauge…
8mg is a bit tough to gauge for…
i see Ingo
NC Blue too probably
my man
is the original insane gauge battery

He is a zone
I don't have much experience with ghost pokémon
who should i bring against agatha ?
Usual team worked as usual, if more slow and steady and less nuke immediately and win haha
Time to make next week’s- oh
Giovanni & Mewtwo is your best option for Ghost type currently if you dont want to invest on Helena
you can grid her with free orbs from her event right?
i recommend investing on her, so you can form a Ghost core with her and Giovanni
mmh ok
so the team would be like hex trainer/giovani and anything that fits ?
giovanni does the damage i g
Finally, I can use Victrier with perma field effect
both her and Giovanni do damage, with Helana taking the sync
the support should be the one who helps both buffing offensive stats + supplying gauge
no he doesnt help with spatk
you can use the filter ingame
Elio doesnt buff crit, so Helena requires 3 turns and a TM MPR to max crit
i picked the wrong picture
Oh shit, I just realized ghost zone also boosts Agatha's damage too
it went surprisingly well
i did not expect helena to pack a punch like that
lorelei however is not fun, can she stop dodging Rei ?
🤣
avoid hitting her with supports
some pairs have sure hit effect like Maylene or cant dodge like Thorton
you can also buff team accuracy, with common options like Lillie or Lodge Elesa/Cynthia or gridded Maylene
Good news. Managed to run it back with an ontype clear with my overloaded strength and hp params rather than needing to memorize the custom params
Don’t entirely know how much of that damage was from r1 but
offtyping despite having Rei is not a good play imo, just try options i suggested above
I’m really happy to not need to customize params in kanto 
If you have Darach you can just use him for -eva shenanigans like I did, weigh down on his grid is really nice
Adding rei and a bulky support to that would clear even more easily than Bea I imagine
how about Maylene
same 😢
i used everything to lvl up helena
maybe i can snatch her evasiveness with hoopa
if you cant/dont want to level up them to level 100 at least, try again until you succeed
that works too
remember not to hit her with other teammates, only Rei hitting her to avoid evasion stacking up
mmh so greninja might not be the play there too
he is a terrible tank if he can't hit
just hit the sides, easy solution
altho why do you use him here without using his Dark mode for Physical Move Up Next?
since you aim to pre sync, worrying about bulk is not really needed, especially with Rei
i suggest changing the tank
a decent tank should be fine
Lorelei only uses special moves, you know what kind of support will be useful there
Rip
i lean towards Liza, who has aoe spdef and offensive buffs for Rei
its only Monday, you have time to get exp books
if you havent setup expedition teams in #1012298913279127582 yet, do it asap
i have
i already collected it
today
right after the maintenance
but i had helena and mewtwo to level
well, waiting is the key then
i am pretty sure in a month or two i'll have enough pokémon raised up to not care as much
all veterans had the same problem when they were new, even before Lodge was a thing
so dont worry much about it
yeah synch grids and lvls
is there a way to get more synch points except for events and the dailies ?
Can I have these params?
you mean sync orbs right?
yes
have you checked the monthly exchange shop? iirc it has a good sync orb exchange rate
tho you are limited to some exchanges
TL is also a good passive sync orb farm
In a moment. It’s basically my 2.5k with 80% hp added iirc. Mid stage I’ll post after
Just used lodge acerola ex unironically today lmao
Here’s the params I’m using, note my teams are pretty stacked for most types
I’ll test those params next week 
Next week kanto gone 
So will be a harder region
God, Gilbert and Alder together felt almost like a cheat code. Both 4mg moves were almost oneshotting people even with these bulky params
For.blue.... i just queued up zapdos, sst red and burgh.
Get flinched, para'd and stat debuffed
I used ncblue with them just to see how rediculous their moves would be post supp sync
3/5 alder?
Hows the dps/sync nuke?
Like 30k or so on techno blast, ~16k hbeam and I think 60k or so on sync on side
Heres what burgh can do at least
Iirc
Ill dip back to 14.5k for next week if its sinnoh or hoenn ooof.
God damn I need a good water type
I don’t have any striker or tech that’s good
Can’t do it here
Cyrus exists
yeah ig but I still off type most things
give him rain and he wrecks ontype
Cyrus has the best Water dps in term of accessible pairs
I only not off type blue, since zerena
And Agatha since I have allister but still
(And Giovanni)
Yeah, I think I’ll summon for NC Serena still when datamine drops
She’s a fav
But it can’t hurt waiting
no need to ping me
mb
in the mean time, dont ignore Cyrus
Just woke up
Do you have base Kris with grid?
Cause I use her all the time for water content post powerboost
Mainly didn’t this week cause felt like seeing big numbers with my new toys for last kanto week
Kris nuke one shots almost every cs water stage turn 3 if you have her exd and set her up with hilbert or something
And tm is surecrit iirc so not even rng roll for full crits

Been loving how simple she is to use after the pb
Yeah I passed her off as not a great unit when I started, and now I get to use funny crocodile any time water weak shows up in cs. Totodile line is so silly I love them so much
Just funny bitey crocs
Lodge Silver is good too, only in LG tho 
I plan to try out lodge silver in the next lg if they don’t make the bosses too bad for him
Now do 4k pts. with her
This week def feels harder than last week
phone just died on me but finished my daily activities in time, ill prob see if i can do that for fun tomorrow tbh just for someth to do while waiting for datamine, assuming i do much on the game tomorrow ofc
for me this week was honestly easier, although it wasnt a big difference in difficulty. i mainly just realized last week that if CS goes beyond 3k, ill prob have to consider candying LuSSa, cause fitting psychic terrain and debuffs together is a bit awkward rn. having her proper nuke would prob make things smoother for clearing a psychic stage before anime just dies
aside from Bug type which most people dont have good options for, all weaknesses are loaded with accessible good units
yeah, with 4/5 gilbert tho im prob not gonna struggle with bug content till bug HSE
I'm just doing duos with my MFs
So not good 🏃♂️

i hope
gets grid expansion next month tbh, i had a dream of if he got like unfort strike or someth the other night.
would be nice to give funni First Impression man more of a purpose in modern poma
and i cant think of much else they could do to make him relevant
without reviving coop
They're just going to give him MP Rekindle on First Impression or some shit & be done with it
mp rekindle wouldn't do anything though due to first impressions condition...
Pin Missile CS2
the move's kinda a dead one after turn 1
Yes that was the point
It has 3 MPs it's already useless
i just want guzma to not be meme levels of bad
I think you mean SDE2 
what are you guys using for blue that's accessible ?
1st time using NC Leaf as a tank for CS after I caked and cadied her for HS. She is gangster
tbh accessible Bug type is not great, unless you have 3/5 Burgh and some specific pairs for him
you can try poison stalling or offtype
Ah yes
i have lusamine 3/5
she is not easy to use, and has worse performance than Burgh
Could you off type with your uber tier or poison stall?
Poison stall is prolli the way to go
base lusa dies to a stray breeze without ex, and even with ex is rough considering statline like gio and i struggle with survivability on gio too
Sec I'll give you mine
Pinsir and beedrill is a great budget combo for bug 
I did NC Leaf and Ss hilda duo. The only difference I have is I had support 3x dmg since I had no support.
It should work with Colress anyway, but just be weary the output difference between NC Leaf/SS Hilda vs Colress/SS Hilda is going to be pretty big
Nope
do i ex with morty or victini first ?
if Morty is EX, sync with him first
mmh did not work at all 🤣
What move level are your pairs
oh yeah i do have her
you know the basics of stalling strat right
i haven't tried it yet but i have seen videos
Ss leaf. Sycamore. Janine
Not sycamore , use a sync healer
Clear any stage 
ss leaf has a random chance to poison people no ?
Or sync healer but I personallt like Sycamore
It's pretty close to a guarantee
He’s been hard nerfed 
yes with 50% chance, Janine is there to debuff offensive stats
O when did it happen
at 1/5 ?
With high points his heal is weak
50 % so i guess spam razor leaf until everyone is poisoned
Yes usually first 2 moves no poison I just reset but they hardly happens
Haven't poison stall for a while now 😂
100
Hmm I mean as long as you can survive sync
really they don't need more ? they don't die from sync ?
is there a better unit than janine ?
No Janine is poison stall God haha
with her spider not her bat
No she is OP
right ?
Yes spider
does she need more stars or as is ?
Like auroch said use a synchro healer as tank
she is lvl 1 on my game
So healer. Ss leaf. Janine
I mean so long as they don’t aoe it works
Yea just level her this poison stall is like your future free pass for any cs stage
So worth investing
Just use lv 1 Janine 
LOL
i'll try it i beaten lorelei with lvl 1 bronzong
i am just looking for syncro healers
i have sableye
and lily
Fall Caitlin it is
OP unit
so true 
Is this permanent field round??? 
Just low hp. I guess her buff and def stats are ok
She has mega for more stats
Still look similar to an ss elesa haha
Shun the nonbeliever
Should be all good I guess. Some good tiles on grid
EZ clear
it's going o be interesting 🤣
Lv1 hype
Janine will die to sync😂
But prob don't need her after she max debuff
Buwwhahah nice!
so I did some legendary adventures
Very nice!
ngl for blue
i had to offtype
SC zinnia works really well here
bug pool needs more variety
Twister cooking
at least it just got Noland ( 🥁 )
2/4, here I come blue
Is it possible to make Guzma & Golisopod work for 3K CSMM without SC Ingo or SC Steven?
yes, but you might have to go post sync depending on comp
I think you might have to use another damage dealer alongside Guzma
First impression with 3 whole uses!

Have you used your CCalem?
not yet
I have a feeling you can scrape through with a defense debuffer, CCalem and Guzma but not sure. Can give it a shot in a bit if it'll help
DeNA: Okay add Standfast 9 to his grid, got it

Which fight are you trying to do currently and what round?
I'm lazy to ask search through your roster, but do you have Lillie/Clefairy?
My bea seems bad
Yes
What move level?
No need to use Lillie, Argenta already buffs accuracy
1/5 afaik
Hmmmm ok
Then that would be SS Morty
Argenta/Bea/SS Morty
Unless you think SS Morty will be overkill
But there's Blue so I'd just so use SS Morty for R5
Id prefer no bea. She dies on first sync fully buffed
You should be pre syncing
You have to defeat her before Crit Shield at all cost
Yeah, pre-sync
Unless you stall
If you tackle the evasion gimmick (Argenta buffs accuracy) and go for the SuppEX first, Bea should clear it pretty smoothly
Yeah, Argenta will buff attack, Blue will buff speed and crit
Argenta also buffs speed by 4 
I dont Think i Can before crit shield
Have you tried Argenta/Bea/Defense Debuffer?
Go for offensive params
Yeah, NC Blue also increases your team's defensive stats by 1 every time he uses Discharge (unless it misses, but it won't since you have Argenta)
And also your NC Blue is 4/5, which means he has Satisfied Snicker and Overwhelm for more survivability
Maybe just send a quick pic of your params so we can see if there's anything drastic that should be changed
But yes, show us your parameters please
Jeez
You're stacking an insane amount of HP & Strength and you've gone and picked up Defense params
and max sync countdown
Defensive parameters? Damn, you're brave for even trying this
Also Strike x3 dmg with Bea
How Dafuq should i Else reach 3k
Support x3 damage too
Have you read the 3k guide in pins? And have you cleared 2.5k consistently in the past?
Replace those defensive parameters for more offensive parameters like Atk./Sp. Atk. and Strength
Because it's Kanto CS, the literal easiest one
Standard Dmg Reduction is off as well
Adding bulk is punishing on harder regions, i dont recommend doing that unless you are certain your units can clear stages easily
You need to understand what the params do & when you should pick up which options

If you do these parameters on harder regions like Hoenn, Sinnoh and Kalos, you won't even make half HP on your enemies
which ones are considering bulks? adding the same one or?
Bulk is HP & Strength
Defense I'm not even considering because you should be avoiding that under all circumstances for pre sync
The big no no: defenses
Only stack these if you have insane nukers: HP
The safest pick: Strength
i felt like adding strength is no go mostly,
You forgot Atk./Sp. Atk. for safest pick
But you should have offenses maxed in the params, POH 1 & 2 are pretty much free presync
It only adds levels, which is like very few extra stats
oh definitely, i should have clarified i meant for topping off for 3k
hm ok, let me cook a new set up quickly and lmk thoughs
most units can presync strength 9-10 rather comfortably epecially in easier regions
if you pick more offense oriented params, the strength can go lower
yeah idk, cant seem to figger it out atm, mb i just reset for tomorrow XD
Pre sync is cringe
Take hp

(Don’t do this if your units aren’t actually really strong)
@rich needle Could you briefly cover me on Marquina's progress or would you rather solo help?
I just woke up actually so I am also in the dark
oh what the hell who was helping them?
omg I'ma have to backread for this bs 
@keen jasper If you don't mind, what's Marquina's progress looking like? HM or MM? Round?
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Parameters
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wht pairs did they use

already?
also HM or MM?
oh waitaminute params I'm dumb 
hold on why are they not picking up Standard Damage Reduction..?
any decent 3/5 Bea team is a free clear what the hell
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ok I skimmed and it looks like Marq. updated the params, but unfortunately they didn't share the current params 
Any tips for agatha
I'll just build a champion team
rosa (or any specially bulky spatk buffer) giovanni lucian. you won't be dissapointed.
Cause I was trying to use ssr cynthia
oh then replace Lucian with her 
Yeah but I do also have anni Lillie but not doing as much damage as I'd hope...think it's parameters
Might have to stream lol...was thinking for support Halloween Caitlin
what move level is AnniLillie?
3/5
EX?
Yeah
I think maybe bc I put physical damage parameters? Let me pull it up
physical damage parameters? bro that doesn't matter as long as AnniLillie wipes most of the stage with her first sync
- Phys/Spe Dmg Reduction are free [100] points cuz they are bypassed with crit
- Stat Cond/Interference is another free [100]
- Why the hell do you have Special Damage Reduction 8? AnniLillie's sync is gonna suffer. [-100]
- Get Strength 3 [300]
reason why I suggested Strength over Atk ^N is cuz Strength is additive, while Atk ^N is multiplicative
Ight got it, managed to do it with strength 6
For Marquina, it's joever. they got 4/5 SSHilbert EX, so literally any decent team that buffs SpAtk and Speed while living presync works.
A reminder to regulars here to be a bit less cavalier about saying Kanto is the easiest when trying to help less experienced players
its ok ❤️
i dont know if i understand presync properly i think
ask someone else I'm busy atm
Pre-Sync means you’re KOing before the opponent can Sync at all
Another fun week
Palmer +20 hp +4 Def +2 STR
need help with agatha
Hard Mode or Master Mode?
and lorelei too,I was thinking on going off-type on both,with NC red and SS hilda as main dmg dealers on them(I wanna save poison stall for blue)
also what round?
oh then definitely get EVictor as R3 param is permanent field
I'm curious: what's your posion stall team for Blue?
oleana,skyla and lucy
you do realize that Blue's team is mainly composed of special attackers right?
oh,then I could swap skyla for misty
I already used it I think,lemme check
yeah,used
my supports,hop was already used too
oh BPMorty perfect! He's a good replacement cuz max defenses, synchro healing, and skyla pots on grid
for the poison stall team right?
yeh
also use Viola instead of Lucy, as she can trap and debuff spatk, while the poison is already taken care of by Oleana
oleana's venom drench already does that,she debuffs atk,spatk and spe
Victor + any supports or + Fantina and a great spa support is ez
Oof
Sorry chat scrolled
And I replied to wrong message
it's fine, I wouldn't have to type that myself 
the question I was asking myself is: which e4 should zarc do on r3-4?
@rain turret fighting DPS?
I always forget wtf is dps
damage unit
dps = damage per second
broken english if you rip out that acronym, but it's convenient to type so
like whe people say "DPS unit"
I should really get used to typing dmg instead
Also for the extra tank for poison stall, Misty might be your best choice due to evasion/ridicule shenanigans.
OH HOLDUP HOW DID I MISS SwiMisty? The two misties can team up here
waitaminute that's bad synergy as there will be too much grad heals, and it's not optimal to use Misty's TM with SwiMisty's TM
Does anyone know why Agatha sometimes stops using sync move?
Like she was supposed to use sync after TM but she didn't queue immediately for some reason, even though I finished syncing a while ago.
Has anyone ever had that happen?
either you kill her with your queued up moves, or she kills herself with her TM
yep just bring a gauge support 
She was still alive, that's the strangest part
since this is all I have,I was thinking on going off-type with NC red
Use bea,korrina and wally
Or off-type if u wanna
3 damage-dealers is not a good team
Bea/an Attack + crit Support/a 3rd team member would be far stronger
R4 is physical dmg reduction
I see
Yeah, crits bypass the shields anyway
Would Aaron be better than SS Acerola with bug bros vs blue?
Actually he wouldn’t because he wouldn’t give 8 PMUN. Answered my own question. 😒
finished lorelei with nc red, lodge elesa and giovanni persian and I even got to do 12k,now I just need to get 3k on blue for my 1st 15k
which parameters should I add on the 2500 preset to get the 3k with poison stall?
Lapras felt really chunky for physical attacker. Is it because of reflect? What can I use to remove that?
@north crown a lil help?
crit shield into reflect
So piercing gaze is what I need
my 1st 15k
true,had to remove the healing and add sync countdown parameters
ah
thats what that refered to
I read the pins and was trying to figure it out
eh not really what im going for rn
By picking up max sync countdown you can cut off a good chunk of pts from your strength/HP
hm yeah
Im tryna off type with akari
lorelei
not sure if its a good idea but I dont wanna struggle with non-exed solgaleo again
That strat probably isn't for you then atm, you'll need some sort of denial/strong nuke to play with sync CD. Otherwise you'll get wiped by their sync
Anyone I should save or avoid for certain rounds?
save giovanni and lucian for agatha
theyre going to come in handy
use shw ball grid for giovanni
Oh I meant who I should go against on certain rounds but thank you
Avoid fighting Lorelei on perma field effect round if you cant pre sync her
Other than that you can do rounds in any order

hm? I was going to use akari (field setter) against her
aaa ping
mb
ik u hate it
Do you have other Dark top tier pairs like SC Zinnia and NC Marnie? If not poison stalling is miles better
really?
If you are able to pre sync it's all good
If not you're giving her permanent crit shield and she'll set up reflect
kimono thing
I forgot to ask, is Akari 3/5 at least?
no, why?
Because Akari lacks a nuke at 1/5
uh I usually do fine with her?
idk
ill try it out
if it doesnt work ill just poison stall again...
You want to clear before the crit shield, which Akari cant
even with double critical strike 2?
and perma field?
and -6 defense?
I think thats kinda doable no?
You probably won't output enough damage by the time Lorelei sets up crit shield (one turn before her sync). Give it a try tho and see how it goes
If Lorelei does set up the shield it's game over
I have cake on akari
still have that ss
its my first and only ex caker
since im undecisive on whether I should give support to nc serena or ss serena
but im getting out of track
ill send a video
of my gameplay with that
Akari lacks firepower to nuke at 1/5, so she entirely depends on the other dmg dealer
A very worthwhile decision tbh (assuming you'll eventually 3/5 her)
And yeah this too
probably one day yeah
I dont have any other zoner so 
That's fair
It does not
yeah
thats what I meant
these type of tech units, like hw iris
shouldve gotten the field ex role
and then we get tech role calem
Huge nuke fr
Should I try to verse Lorelei with Solgaleo or Rei?
Ah
If that matters
Then maybe stick with Solga
I think you can just BMove buke with rei tbh
as long as it doesn't miss
Try not to hit em too much with sides so she doesn't buff evasion
Yeah

Hit the sides
Me seeing B Triple Arrows one shot the sides and leave Lorelei unharmed
the worst fr
You could always do the funny double focus blast team
Wait does Lorelei set up hail?
Nope
Oh wow
Crit shield presync & reflect post sync
Yeah
Ewww
And evasion +1 on every hit
Eww
This just sounds like 
Hmmm. How do I deal with crit shield?
When it comes to +6 acc vs +6 evasion I swear it's a 50/50 chance of hitting
I have Bea
Try and take her out by pre syncing
Oh she's 3/5, I forgot 
Or if you want you could post sync and wait it out since she tends to use TMs after sync but it's generally more risky
+6 evasion and +6 acc is just nothing, so 70 accuracy focus blast 
I'd only do this if you're poison stalling cos otherwise 

I made a dumb team so I had to live with the consequences of post syncing
But yeah try to take her out before crit shield
Remind me to use NC Blue more often in non electric teams and then maybe I'll be able to clear Lorelei pre sync

If I'm going to try Bea I should probably use Rei then
Fym remind you to use NC Blue
I'd use Rei
Uh huh
But yeah don't use a mixed team like me
Be smart and don't make your life hell
Rei and Bea would work well together, at that point they just need a speed support and someone who can max their attack
Oh god a mixed team???
Now we're talking
Yeap
FB Wally and Rei with SS Brendan
Should have just stuck with using special attackers
So Rei's Tripple Arrow Barrage missed right before he was supposed to KO the Lapras as Crit Shield was queued
But he still managed to ko with sync after a meteor assault and I was fine, thankfully
Who should I pair with Cyrus for R4?
I already used him 
I have NC Blue, Sycamore, Lodge Dawn, Rosa
Why May if we're not using Hydro Pump?
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