Champion Stadium

[left storm]

Tried out 3.5k and god it's annoying when you're trying to put at least 2 faves in every team

[undone ether]

Kanto will probably be a lot easier i guess

[left storm]

Kalos 3.5k with non meta strikers...will be definitely interesting

[keen jasper]

Well, I was able to do 4k on all of them except ghost-weak Wikstrom

[manic kiln]

mono teams, both limited and budget units still work for 3k so far, but not sure if budget team can keep up with harder regions, postsync is not great anymore

[left storm]

Yeah but we're you using stuff like Clair, og Valerie, og zinnia or BP Sophocles (without rats) as solo DPS?

3.5k kinda pushes older non limited units down the drain already

They can work but really need that double support meta carry I feel

Or to pair them with a broken unit to dual strike with

[mellow linden]

I’m curious to see what happens when I try out Clair in 3k CSMM. She already handles 2.5k fine with SS Kris + either C. Elesa or BP Surge as a teammate, so she’ll probably do alright in 3k

[left storm]

2.5k duo Clair SS Kris is free

3k is also free with any third

3.5k tho

[mellow linden]

I’m most concerned about Bug and Poison for my types. Not really for any sort of “unable to do it at all” reason, but because I’m concerned I might have trouble pulling off my usual teams (Lusamine for Bug, Roxie + Lucy for Poison) and will have to switch to stronger alternatives

[left storm]

Bug weak stage with sentry entry X2 at 3.5k....

💀

[mellow linden]

Bugsy + Lusamine is the hope on that

[keen jasper]

Yeah, it's tough, but somehow, Burgh did it for me at 4k pts.

[left storm]

With who?

[keen jasper]

SS Morty and Alder

My parameters were all over the place

[left storm]

Interesting

Oh

I meant WISE ENTRY

X2

Lol

Special is ez

[keen jasper]

Wise Entry? Well, SC Emmet helps me with that

[left storm]

Yeah it's pretty much

Him or offtype

I feel

[old orchid]

Bugsy untruther smh

i would rather toxic stall

[manic kiln]

poison got so many new units in just a few months, bug on the other hand

[old orchid]

it got a fcking variety

[manic kiln]

like, 3 fairs, 4 variety, 2 lodge in a year

4 variety tho, the new fairy with their seasonals

[rain turret]

any tips for grimsley?
Im trying ss lyra,dawn and shauna,but it barely does dmg,besides lyra's sync

[grand trout]

What are your params?

[manic kiln]

you need another dps if lyra is 1/5, but she can still clear, you don't really need 2 supports tho

[silver dirge]

I'm thinking a certain type of damage reduction might be on

[old orchid]

Dawn is the dmg dealer wdym

well, until she is 3/5 and fully gridded

[silver dirge]

Considering lyra's sync is special and move is physical

[silver dirge]

DPS/Nuke dawn my beloved

[undone ether]

we got so many. o-o

[undone ether]

what team?

[rain turret]

.

[undone ether]

what's their move levels?

[old orchid]

dont pick max sync cd if you cant pre sync the stage
standard damage reduction is a free parameter ontype

you should pick -2 move gauge too, when you replace Dawn with a better Grass dmg dealer

check the pins for recommended parameter sets

[undone ether]

i wouldn't use graduate healing at start if you dont have the damage to back it up tbh.

[silver dirge]

?

Gradual Healing is almost always a free parameter

[undone ether]

He was probably trying to do flinch tactics with SS Lyra i guess.

just not sure about their move level though

[old orchid]

its still a free parameter

enemies dont move when are flinch too

please carefully think before giving an advice

[silver dirge]

I'm not sure what this has to do with grad healing either

They're syncing with SS Lyra, whose sync is special ?? Please be careful with the advice you're giving it'll just confuse them

[undone ether]

ooof

oh it is

[old orchid]

please dont ignore feedback from others, you have constantly been giving a lot of weird advice and show no sign of improvement

[calm marsh]

[manic mica]

[keen jasper]

Do you have any of the damage reduction parameters active?

What I mean is Physical and Special Damage Reduction 8

[undone ether]

he doesnt have them on

[keen jasper]

Weird, that team they mentioned easily could've 2.5k-ed Grimsley

[undone ether]

currently, his options are around 2.2k points

but eh, he hasn't responded. maybe he cleared it already

[sand karma]

When is 3k cs coming?

[plush tangle]

next week iirc

[silver dirge]

yup

[rain turret]

sorry I was busy

[rain turret]

lyra and dawn 1/5,shauna 2/5

[old orchid]

Do you have Brendan or SS Erika? Any move level is fine

[digital sleet]

Can I get help on grimsley

I tried a sun team but it didint win

With erika & leafeon, Blaine and a fodder fighting

[swift swan]

hmm, what fighting type did you put in? someone like Maylene should work fine

[digital sleet]

I put korrina

Alright

[rain turret]

yes,brendan is 2/5 and ss erika is 5/5

[digital sleet]

Still llsy

Lost

[toxic cobalt]

Urgh next week is sync cure blue

[toxic cobalt]

Erika can make her own sun. Use Brawly as support fighting. You could run Nanu as third

And you can just run Lucy Viola Mistyduck as a stall team to net the last 3

[drifting steppe]

Are the new parameters pinned?

[silver dirge]

There aren't any additional parameters being added in-game, and the suggested pre-sets for 3k params are yet to be updated. You can expect em around next week once the CSMM update happens

[drifting steppe]

I keep forgetting CS rotation is monthly rather than with the update

[lime raven]

without a doubt, iris did not stand a chance 😂

[north crown]

welp, time to invade this channel since LG is over

[waxen flume]

Best/fav/fun off-type teams for 3k CSMM?

[mellow linden]

Depends entirely on your roster and what parameters you end up picking. 3k point cap won’t be happening until next week though

In theory it shouldn’t be too much different from 2.5k

[civic trellis]

.

Im going to miss doing teams like these

[waxen flume]

I ended up having to decide between 500 points of mostly +HP and +DEF parameters...my current 2.5k off-type teams probably won't clear reliably, especially on harder regions

[mellow linden]

Can always give on-typing a go

[civic trellis]

It may be imo since last time we got alot of new params, like if u did either special/physical and tech/strike only and on type thats 450 points already

But ig we’ll see, I may try just adding strength 3 and hp 4 and see how it works

[onyx veldt]

Have to said that I did a clear before the reset and it was pretty fun even if shauntal was mostly trouble with all 140s funny enough.
But I can't figure how to get the rest of the shards and try mm if I read about it right bc I probably don't have enough ex or max lvls pairs

[digital sleet]

for Caitlin.......

[north crown]

1. hard or mm nvm I'm dumb
2. what's your orb storage looking like?

[digital sleet]

Around 0....😭

[north crown]

eh that's fine

[digital sleet]

right

[north crown]

at least you got 2/5 Akari who can probably hard carry

[north crown]

why is helena only 1/5?

[digital sleet]

ah

[north crown]

the ghost girl with haunter

[digital sleet]

I haven't completed the event fully yet

[north crown]

are you able to get her to at least 3/5?

cuz ik the event is gonna end soon

[digital sleet]

Yep

[north crown]

regardless of whether we actually use her or not, you should still strive to get her to at least 3/5 to get access to her full grid

[digital sleet]

alright

[north crown]

I'll give you 2 options:

1. We try to beat CS rn
2. We try after getting Helena to 3/5, which is in 1-2 days

I don't really care which option you pick cuz your roster can do it regardles of option. I'm just giving you these options for preference purposes.

for 2, I'm assuming that you'd want to try Helena out

[digital sleet]

oh

I wanna get done with champion

[north crown]

ok so we doing this right now, ok

[digital sleet]

I also have Grimsley to beat if u wanna do it also

Iris probably won't be a problem because I've got zerena

[digital sleet]

@north crown been using this and no success

OH

Sorry I pinged in accident

Accidently clicked on ur username and forgot to remove it

[north crown]

eh it's fine

that team shoudl theoretically beat this stage easily if SSErika is gridded/invested

[digital sleet]

I gridded her

Not a lot though because I didint have a lot of sync orbs

[north crown]

imo Akari might be better cuz of that fast speed buff she has on her tm, which would greatly help SSErika's damage via Ramming Speed

[digital sleet]

right

so should I swap the dark type dude for her?

[north crown]

nvm forget what I said

[digital sleet]

Oh

Ok

[north crown]

apparently she doesn't get it until 3/5

might be better to use Ghetsis at this point

also HOLDUP I thought you said you neede help with Caitlin

holdon

[digital sleet]

let me try again then

[digital sleet]

oh ook

[north crown]

how many CS stages did you beat so far?

cuz if it's more than 2, we can win very easily

OH 6 pairs are used

that must mean that you only beat 2

the remaining CS opponents must be: Grimsley, Caitlin, and Alder. Correct?

[digital sleet]

I beat the 2 others

Yep

yep

Alder will be easy zerena can carry

[north crown]

You need to scrap your current SSErika team, especially because both Ghetsis and Zerena can probably carry those types on their teams

[civic trellis]

Its iris but yeah

[digital sleet]

ah?

Alright

[north crown]

I'm thinking either Sonia, SSErika, Blaine, or Rosa, Silver SSErika

[digital sleet]

I also needa use grass, dark and fighting

okay

ah

[north crown]

pick your poison

[digital sleet]

ook

[north crown]

btw do you know basic teambuildiing or not, cuz I can't tell if you do know based on your SSErika team

cuz ik that's how people think when trying to cram in types for the medal

[trail smelt]

I really need to boost my bug types lol

[digital sleet]

yeah

I wanted to get the types

[north crown]

you know the teambuilding 101 stuff right?

[digital sleet]

ah not much

[north crown]

really? I'm surprised

ok lemme flood chat a bit more

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[trail smelt]

Have you beaten Victory Road at least?

[digital sleet]

Yes

OH THAT

[north crown]

ok thank god

[digital sleet]

I thought it was something different

Yeah I know

[north crown]

ok you have some basic teambuilding knowledge, good to know

I'm thinking either Sonia, SSErika, Blaine, or Rosa, Silver SSErika (repost)
Choose one you're comfortable with and let's go at it

dw about the other types; Ghetsis and Zerena will carry those

[digital sleet]

ok Grimsley done

[old orchid]

Yes, use SS Erika instead of Dawn

[north crown]

you used sonia or rosa team?

[digital sleet]

Rosa

[digital sleet]

but I already used ehm erika

[north crown]

Overkill mode time: Sycamore, Ghetsis, Akari/Nanu

[digital sleet]

AH

okk

lol

[north crown]

I doubt Zerena will need much for her team so I'm giving Sycamore the green light.

[digital sleet]

wait a second

should I use double drop kyurem

[north crown]

ye

[digital sleet]

okay

[north crown]

double drop nuke grid

oneshot mid

sycamore can tank really well so no need to worry

if u want extra DPS, u got Akari

[digital sleet]

and heal

okk

[north crown]

if u want to conserve gauge, go Nanu

I must say, You've done a good job filling up your types, though I am worried about how long you took

You got Ghetsis EX, which must mean that you've played this game for at least a good while.

When did you start tackling Unova CS?

[digital sleet]

okay done with akari!

[digital sleet]

what's CS 😭

[north crown]

Champion Stadium

the mode you're tacking

[digital sleet]

oh

around a 2 weeks ago

[north crown]

so it took you three weeks to get to MM...

[digital sleet]

The first week I just

Did whatever

😭

[north crown]

I'll offer to teambuild your entire Kanto CS for Hard Mode, cuz ik you're gonna ask for help so might as well

• Kanto CS is stupidly easy

oh I aven't gave you Zerena's team

[digital sleet]

it's ok

I'll use uhhh

[north crown]

First, I want you to double check your type list, I don't want to miss anything

even tho I can see the screenshot above, but I want to make sure

[digital sleet]

fighting is left

The only one left

[north crown]

k

OP Support (e.g: Skyla), Zerena, Maylene

trust

[digital sleet]

I'm gonna use Maylene, skyl

Yeah I was gonna say that lol

[north crown]

all mayelen has to usee is use her tm once

[digital sleet]

Is skyla that strong?

[north crown]

everything else doesn't matter

[digital sleet]

From what I see she is very used

[north crown]

Zerena's move order goes like this: TM, DH+, Thousand Waves, Sync

[north crown]

you should watch some videos showcasing her

[digital sleet]

Ook

[north crown]

or try her yourself now

either works

should be an ez win

[digital sleet]

I used her alott but she doesn't look so powerful compared to others

[north crown]

ofc she isn't powerful, she's a tank

[digital sleet]

oo

ah I wonn

[trail smelt]

Her job is taking hits and keeping people alive haha

[north crown]

She's really tanky regardless of any attack thanks to Ocean of Potion (grid nodes required), plus she's also really good speed support

[digital sleet]

Ocean of Potion?

That sounds

Like something

woo I unlocked Master mode

[north crown]

yay

u wanna tackle this now?

[digital sleet]

ah I have homework

maybe another dayy

[north crown]

I'll ping you with my teambuilding for both this week's MM run, and Kanto Type Medal Completion

[subtle leaf]

will there be additional parameters when 3k is added?

[formal vigil]

No

[digital sleet]

okok

[north crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823566290563366942/1156609165150658672/UnovaCS.png

kiki's roster

R1: Additional effects of moves are more likely to occur
R2: Sync buffs are more effective
R3: When a Pokemon faints, debuffs the stats of all allies
R4: Physical damage reduction at start
R5: Special damage reduction at start

[rain turret]

Im with grimsley and marshal alive
who do I fight with the debuff thing?

[north crown]

depends. do u have teams planned?

also hard mode or master mode?

[rain turret]

yeah
I tried rose,oleana and hop against marshall,but the sync kills copperajah and garbodor,and the zamazenta get minus 2 in every stat cuz 2 mons were knocked

[rain turret]

mm

[north crown]

oh nvm

also why the hell are you using 3 slowass mons together?

do you know basic teambuilding or not?

[rain turret]

what should be my team?

[north crown]

replace hop with skyla and that's alr good upgrade

she's basically Hop, but replace offensive buffs with speed/gauge support

[rain turret]

what about the points spread?should I keep these or swap for something else?

[north crown]

eh that's fine, tho I do worry about Oleana cuz of that tech damage

also what is Oleana's role in that team?

cuz I got no clue as to what she does

[rain turret]

she badly poisons all opponents and she has a tm that can debuff atk,sp atk and spe on poisoned targets,minus 3 in each stat

[north crown]

ik Rose + Oleana sounds good, but frankly I don't think she really does anything in that team

you'd be better with a defense debuffer instead

or even Solgaleo for dual striking if Skyla can carry gauge like that

AKA if she's gridded

[rain turret]

like the TR redhead with screech?

[north crown]

TR redhead?

well whatever any screecher would work

lemme review your points parameters

... why is "Max Sync Countdown -1" selected..?

Also you can tick off standard damage reduction since the DPS is just ROse

If you're gonna get Atk+SpAtk buff ^3, get Strength ^1 instead

Replace Atk+SpAtk ^5 with the Terrain option

or get special damage reduction, self explanatory

additionally, you can select Strength ^2 if you're not at max points already

[rain turret]

finished it

[rain turret]

the m-i-l-f with an arbok that looks like silver's mom

[north crown]

oh yeah her... she works!

[old orchid]

Watch your language. This is a PG-13 server

[zealous karma]

Also evading the word filter is a big no

[rigid flint]

That took an unexpected turn

[fiery canopy]

another poison battle -_-

[undone ether]

Janine can do it 😮

[fiery canopy]

would rather just offtype tbh

[undone ether]

(Koga not so much if you get hit by Snarls a lot)

[rigid flint]

Cringe Marshal with his budget Sentry Entry

[onyx veldt]

So I have this many shards looks like this, is it worth to try to cram the missing ones or just do hm this week and try it with the new region next week?

[north crown]

yes try to cram in types for goodness sake! you have 15 slots, so lots of flexibility

[paper summit]

Grimsley is not the poison weak stage tho, Marshal doesn't debuff special attack at all

[north crown]

someone help Carva I'm building another person's teams

[paper summit]

it's 8 types, should be easy enough to slot them in, 3 of them are one of the weaknesses even

[onyx veldt]

Kk, gonna check the teams posted by someone early on that had similar pairs to the ones I had and go from there, ty

[north crown]

@digital sleet All PomaTools grids included are ALL for MINIMUM investment.

UNOVS CSMM RUN
Rosa, Silver, SSErika [Grimsley - Round 1]

• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010100049700&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AhobHSA&v1=013300025000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=AAYJDA8cHSA&v2=000802047000&s2=2&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=
  Falkner, Hau, Acerola (Flinch Spam) [Caitlin - Round 2]
• talk to/ping me and/or anyone experienced about flinch spam, especially if you're about to try it
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=015000027700&s0=3&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=1111&g0=AhMUFRg&v1=009800002601&s1=5&l1=140&r1=4&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=AwQRFCgrLi8&v2=000700077000&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AxM
  Sycamore, Lucy, Dawn (Poison Stall) [Marshal - Round 3/4]
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=013600071600&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AhocHiEjJC8&v1=019800033600&s1=5&l1=140&r1=4&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=AAYHCg0Q&v2=011600038900&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AAYICg
  Elio, Ghetsis, Mesprit [Shauntal - Round 3/4]
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=012200073000&s0=1&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=&v1=019501064600&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFGB0gISIvMDIzNDU&v2=900000048100&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11&g2=
  SSElesa, Zerena, Lucian [Champ Iris - R5]
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010610047900&s0=1&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=&v1=013002071800&s1=1&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=&v2=017600020300&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=

[digital sleet]

WOA

[north crown]

ohhhh... I should've tested for links...

[digital sleet]

I'll check this out tmrw omf

[undone ether]

xd

[digital sleet]

thank u so much

[north crown]

np

how tf do I turn off embeds?

[digital sleet]

no idea

[north crown]

oh I found the button

[undone ether]

oh there

[north crown]

you can add more grid nodes if you really want to, but it's not really necessary

[digital sleet]

okioki

What does CSMM mean?

[north crown]

champ stadium master mode

oh yeah.. if you don't know what extra points you need to add, take some from the pins

other people could probably help you with that

[digital sleet]

okaioki

oh yea

then ehm

The uh

Where u add stuff

Like

-10 attack

[grand trout]

Nitsua you ready for 15k?

[north crown]

ofc. 12.5k is too easy for me, even without OP/meta units

[digital sleet]

woo

[grand trout]

What params are you activating?

[north crown]

probably just more strength

[grand trout]

I suggest half hp, worked for me this week

[old orchid]

Half hp usefulness depends on params and team needs too. Like you shouldnt pick half hp with max atk params unless you have ways to preserve your units

[toxic cobalt]

Love to potion first turn

[grand trout]

True, i made the mistake of using lisia with half hp 🫠

[north crown]

@digital sleet Batch 2

KANTO CS TYPE MEDAL - WEEK 1
Weaknesses: Electric, Flying, Ice, Steel, Poison
Lorelei: Viola, Hau, Sabrina

• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=003900028400&s0=1&l0=140&r0=4&p0=0&a0=0&t0=1111&g0=&v1=009800002601&s1=3&l1=140&r1=4&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=AwQRFCgrLi8&v2=011400006500&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=1111&g2=
  Bruno: SwiMisty (Psyduck), Blue, Roxanne
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011001005400&s0=1&l0=140&r0=4&p0=0&a0=0&t0=1111&g0=&v1=002100001800&s1=3&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=AAECAwQFHiEiMDEzNDU&v2=004400047600&s2=3&l2=140&r2=3&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AhocHiA
  Agatha: Cheryl, Ghetsis, Bertha
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002300024200&s0=5&l0=140&r0=3&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=BCYoKSw&v1=019501064600&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFGB0gISIvMDIzNDU&v2=015400045001&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=
  Lance: Piers, Solgaleo, Drake
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=025600086200&s0=1&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=1111&g0=AhMU&v1=900000079100&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11&g1=AQUfIiMkKCstLi8&v2=009400037300&s2=5&l2=140&r2=4&p2=0&a2=0&t2=1111&g2=AhocHyI
  Blue: Rosa, Petrel, Skyla
• I gave up trying to have 15 unique types
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010100049700&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AhobHSA&v1=014300011000&s1=1&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=111&g1=&v2=001600058100&s2=2&l2=140&r2=3&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AwURFBUXJig

[digital sleet]

WOA????

THANKS MUCH

[fiery canopy]

just pulled drasna oooh
should be useful for iris or marshal...

[digital sleet]

I'm probably not gonna enter this channel in months bcuz of this woo

[undone ether]

just come back here if you're having trouble o-o

[fiery canopy]

mm whos a good support for drasna vs marshal

[toxic cobalt]

What buffs does Drasna need?

[fiery canopy]

lessee here

well she buffs her own sp atk
sooo maybe def or crit?

[toxic cobalt]

She needs def specifically?

[mellow linden]

Drasna ideally wants +2 Sp. Atk and +1 crit at base 1/5

[fiery canopy]

idk about that
oh gotcha

[north crown]

bro each batch lasts only a week, and I only got one more planned cuz of MM. For newer players, you will need to plan around the parameters moreso than usual cuz of points.

[fiery canopy]

is sycamore an ok choice

[north crown]

for?

[fiery canopy]

uhhhh vs marshal
with drasna

[mellow linden]

If you’re running a dual-damage-dealer team with someone who handles their own crit but needs a lot of Sp. Atk. buffs, and your Sycamore has Team Sharp Entry, then he can work fine

Otherwise he’s kinda wasting a lot of buffs, especially against Marshal

[fiery canopy]

im not totally sure how to build a team for drasna tbh

ik she needs sp atk and crit ideally

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore gives very little to Drasna at great cost and will be demolished by Marshal

[mellow linden]

Can do Koga + Drasna + a Sp. Atk. and crit Support for an easy team

Koga does Sync nuke and Sp. Def. debuffs, Drasna does regular move damage

[toxic cobalt]

Who are you usual spatk+crit buffers?

[fiery canopy]

for sp atk i like to use uhhh ss mina but i already used her...
ingo does an ok job w crit...so do shauna and hop.....hmmm

[mellow linden]

MC + Torchic is a good (if a little squishy) option, as one example

[fiery canopy]

oooh youre right
dunno if theyll hold out against marshal tho

[toxic cobalt]

They won't, run Dawn or something

[mellow linden]

If you happen to have Champ Bede or NC Blue then one of them would also be good for a Drasna + Koga combo

[toxic cobalt]

This Koga love is fantastic 🦇

[fiery canopy]

neither 😔 ig ill go w dawn

ack
need...gauge....

[mellow linden]

Gauge shouldn’t be much of an issue with Drasna though

She’s near-gaugeless on-type

[north crown]

@digital sleet Batch 3

KANTO CS TYPE MEDAL - WEEK 2
Weak: Fighting, Ground, Ghost, Fairy, Fire

Lorelei: [Skyla, Bea, Maylene]

• Old Skyla grid, nothing else really needed.

Bruno: [Hop, Hapu, Kukui]

• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=024400088901&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AgUaHB8iIyQmKSs&v1=001300075000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=3&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=BAUGCQwPECcp&v2=000100074500&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AxM

Agatha: [Rosa, Ghost DPS, Lucian]
Giovanni Route: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010100049700&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AhobHSA&v1=014000015000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AQUfIigr&v2=017600020300&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=
Helena Route: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010100049700&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AhobHSA&v1=065200009300&s1=5&l1=140&r1=3&p1=0&a1=0&t1=111&g1=AQUdICMlKSw&v2=017600020300&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=

Lance: [Jasmine, Ghetsis, Mesprit]

• trust.
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011300020800&s0=2&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAMGCAoREhU&v1=019501064600&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFGB0gISIvMDIzNDU&v2=900000048100&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11&g2=
  AltRoute: [Sycamore, Maylene, Jasmine]
• I think you can see where this is going

Blue: Caitlin, SSHilda, SSErika

• so yeah, no support. You don't need to do this, but if you want more gauge, grab Caitlin's "Move Gauge Boost: MP Refresh 3". It's literally right next to the starting grid nodes.

[mellow linden]

Anyway, Marley, Teapot Lillie, Tina, Sabrina, Lodge Elesa, and Lodge Dawn are a few more examples of Supports who can give +2 Sp. Atk. and +1 crit (though on some the Sp. Atk. buffs’ reliability may be a bit iffy)

[fiery canopy]

oooh actually got real close w swimsuit misty...
almost thereeee

i might lower the params this aint worth it LOL

this is what i get for using my best supports too early

[fiery canopy]

YEAH MF 2500

god bless aaron

special dmg reduction on iris. Why

[toxic cobalt]

Damage reductions are meaningless for damage, they disappear before first sync

[fiery canopy]

ohhh

[mellow linden]

They’re also ignored by critical hits since those round parameters just set Reflect/Light Screen

[digital sleet]

oh woow, thanks!!

so much

[keen jasper]

I can't believed I was saved by such stupid AI.
Zerena was the only one alive during Iris's sync and literally only 1 hit away from killing her, but then Iris decided to use 2 TMs and that's what gave me the victory. What a fucking stupid way to win

[undone ether]

still a win 😮

[full mesa]

A win is a win no matter how it was achieved.

[onyx veldt]

Man I had fun with this clear and I was surprised how good bugsy run clutch in a stage. Now to read stuff to see if I have enough good pairs to try to get some mm points or just prep for kanto cs

[undone ether]

D:

that stamina bar....

[paper summit]

RIP rewards

[undone ether]

you can definitely do Master Mode if you have the type medal completed for Unova

You've even got Legendary Pairs with their EX

[toxic cobalt]

Go for master mode!

[onyx veldt]

Will do, it's being really fun trying to clear it in a way it reminds me of poma many updates ago when you had to juggle your sync pairs to make stuff work

[split plank]

Help me optimise my team,i lost 3 times with this team

[grand steppe]

Lucy isn't really made to tank. You need a support to accomodate the other two's needs.

If you want to unlock master mode for additional rewards, you'll also need to use diverse types, so you can get the type medal the next time Unova comes around.

To tank marshal, bring a who can buff the team's . You can consider replacing Janine or keeping her.

[tired sleet]

There’s no need to use 3 sync pairs with the same type if they dont have good synergy

[trail smelt]

Or you’re crazy like me haha

[unborn raft]

Can anyone help me out get 12.5k in CS? I’m a little stuck on Caitlyn.

These are the 5* stars I have.

[mellow linden]

Just as an additional note, don’t ignore your 3- and 4-stars, they generally range from decent to amazing.

If you haven’t used SS Hilbert against anyone else yet then him + an appropriate set of teammates should win just fine

[unborn raft]

Thanks, as far as I’ve tried my best runs have been with Hilbert and Aaron, but the 3rd slot is where my problems occur. I just can’t seem to find the right one.

Biggest problem I’ve faced is once I kill both sides, Caitlyn goes for the kill, if I focus on her, the other 2 kill me.

[mellow linden]

What parameters are you using?

[unborn raft]

I’ve been using the off-type post-sync setup

From the pin

[mellow linden]

Run on-type parameters if using SS Hilbert

It’ll make the opponents way less bulky and Techno Blast will be on-type against Electric weak Caitlin

Can do something like SS Blue + SS Elesa for the Supports if you’re not gonna be using either of them elsewhere

[unborn raft]

So I try to kill her asap with elesa’s breathtaking skill?

[mellow linden]

SS Elesa is more there for Sp. Atk. buffs and if need be ensuring you can Sync twice before the opponent can Sync

How many Syncs are you getting before the opponent Syncs?

Ok, so you’ll probably wanna run a different Support and/or make use of turn denial so you can Sync twice then. Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

Have you used NC Blue already or have planned to use him elsewhere?

NC Blue + Hau + Volkner should be able to win easily, alternatively you could do Elesa + Sonia + Volkner

Btw, since your Elesa is 5/5 she’s better than BP Sophocles

Congrats! And next time you can practice turn denial and/or quadqueue so you can get 2 Syncs before they Sync

[unborn raft]

Got it! Ty

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[unborn raft]

Now just need to work on Marshall

[mellow linden]

Fortunately Marshal can be Poison stalled with relative ease, worst case scenario

[unborn raft]

So for poison stall, I just use a poison applier and 3 tanky characters?

(And the poison preset)

[mellow linden]

Poison stall usually consists of someone to apply Poison (Bad Poison, the kind from Toxic or Poison Fang, is preferred), a tank, and an offensive debuffer (Janine is the quintessential example because of Venom Drench)

[unborn raft]

Oh that was easy, leaf, Aaron and Clemont

[unborn raft]

Ok just need to beat iris now

I still have a few decent choices

[rotund lagoon]

What are your dragon units?

[unborn raft]

Just these

[rotund lagoon]

Cyrus is good. Make a team around him.

[unborn raft]

I do have spare orbs and whatnot if they’re any good

Ok! Thanks

[rotund lagoon]

Oh and level him to 120

[fiery canopy]

any tips for iris x_x
using cyrus but not entirely sure who to use for support

[undone ether]

master mode or just hard mode?

also, post your supports as well~

[fiery canopy]

master
alrite gimme a sec

nvm beat it w cyrus/swimsuit misty/ghetsis!

[undone ether]

presync? 😮

[fiery canopy]

postsync

[north crown]

does anyone need help?

[rotund lagoon]

How come Cyrus and Ghetsis were both on the same team?

[undone ether]

Ghetsis was probably there to debuff. probably. While Cyrus just swung hard.

[north crown]

or cyrus dps, ghetsis nuke

[rotund lagoon]

If Cyrus was PB’d (which I’m sure I’ve seen them around that time), that’s a different story.

[north crown]

oh it was a dragon weak stage..

[wide adder]

I love f2p grassy terrain

[rotund lagoon]

[undone ether]

can't wait for Leafeon (egg) xD

[north crown]

oh yeah.. I should try f2p grassy terrain.... IF I HAD A SUPPORT SPRIGATITO!!!1

[old orchid]

just get mix red just wait for egg Leafeon

[undone ether]

is ur grass cat 5star now? 😮

[wide adder]

4star atm, im waiting to see my performance on HS before i 5star it cause i might need to tank with Fuecoco

only got 24 rn

if i dont end up needing to though, def my first 5star egg

[undone ether]

hum i think my fuecoco and sprigattito are 5star

[wide adder]

i had to 5star my blaine in prep for HS so that took priority. might be using his nuke in the event

[fiery canopy]

ya just debuffs from ghetsis

[rotund lagoon]

Honestly, a Sp Df debuffer would be better for that team than what Ghetsis offers. Also better for gauge. Just a note for next time.

[fiery canopy]

i just used him bc iris's sync kept killing cyrus + misty

[unborn raft]

I could use some help. I got Cyrus (new player so I don’t have those event grids), but not sure with supports.

For Iris MM.

[silver dirge]

Do you have May?

[unborn raft]

Nah

Hang on I’ll take a screen

[silver dirge]

Also if you need help with CS feel free to post here whenever, there's usually people around

[silver dirge]

Sorry ignore this I'm tired Iris is Dragon weak anyway

[unborn raft]

Here’s the 5* I have. I was also told not to underestimate the 3/4* but I wouldn’t know who’s useful either.

[old orchid]

+3and4stars

[frozen depot]

Last Updated : July 2023

List below shows general usefulness of f2p accessible 3 & 4 star pairs.
Some pairs are harder to unlock than others and usually most require to be gridded.
There is no specific order within the tiers! This does NOT include limited pairs.
For more details, feel free to ask people in #poma-questions !

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855438548684374045/1101188658960269363/4113417D-8CD6-4494-ABF2-1A0327D9BE7E.jpg

[old orchid]

This tierlist gives you the idea of who is good

Tho its not up to date with some 4*

[silver dirge]

Can we see your supports too?

Filter by supports I mean

[silver dirge]

You could go for Roxanne + Cyrus + Lucian

Make sure Cyrus has Crit Focus gridded

[unborn raft]

Lucian for atk down?

[silver dirge]

Moreso for SpDef down. Have a read of his Stupefy 9 passive

[unborn raft]

Does wild guard work on sync?

[old orchid]

Wide Guard? No

[silver dirge]

Don't use wide guard until the mid is down

It messes with your sync countdown

[undone ether]

You can probably run Cyrus, Lucian and Lillie for presync.

oh, roxanne is also solid as well

[unborn raft]

So with Roxanne should I go for a full tank grid?

[silver dirge]

Yes you should have MPR on TM that's most important, rest is whatever you want really

[unborn raft]

What do you mean MPR on TM?

[undone ether]

Move Point Refresh on Trainer Move, essentially, you can use it again if it procs.

[old orchid]

Read the Move Point Refresh tile desc

[unborn raft]

Aah

[unborn raft]

Hmm, roxanne’s dying too quickly, need a different preset.

[toxic cobalt]

It reaches the stage Roxanne dies?

Is this before the opponent syncs?

The special effects parameter is up, so you can run Cyrus Roxanne and any flincher

[unborn raft]

Before sync is up

[toxic cobalt]

Does Roxanne have endurance? Anyway, suggest runnning Cyrus Roxanne and say Acerola

[unborn raft]

Ah almost

Woohooo!

@mellow linden @rotund lagoon @silver dirge @old orchid @undone ether @toxic cobalt

Thank you all for your help! I really appreciate you all.

[rotund lagoon]

[unborn raft]

Looking at the team clears, I never would have considered half of them had it not been for you all.

[toxic cobalt]

Well done!

Ah I see why Roxanne was dying

[unborn raft]

How? Because she’s still 3*?

[old orchid]

Yeah, she wants to be upgraded to 4*

[unborn raft]

Aah, yea I traded in my 3* power ups to push for an ex with Blue

[toxic cobalt]

Well, i fyou won you won

[undone ether]

You can probably get 3star power ups by just completing the Unova VA Dailies

Part 2 is solid for 3star power ups if you've cleared the Roxie/Piers event

[unborn raft]

Part 2?

Not this one right?

[old orchid]

Its the event that gives Ghetsis's power boost

[unborn raft]

Ah this one?

[toxic cobalt]

Do that one!

[north crown]

nice they still need help

[toxic cobalt]

Do the orange exclamation marks

[north crown]

also yeah Ghetsis is suprr broken for f2p roster even without considering power boost

[old orchid]

Remember to get both Ghetsis' EX and power boost first

[north crown]

so Ghetsis pb is broken

[old orchid]

And do the daily stage everyday for scout tickets

[old orchid]

Not really broken, but it fixes many of his problems very well

[undone ether]

Yeah these events has boosted drop rate, so you'll be swimming in 3star power ups. Just as long as you have cleared the other events' shops.

[unborn raft]

Aah, I managed to clear everything already, except the ultimate battles, don’t think I’m ready for those yet.

[north crown]

a simple EX to his already powerful nuke is broken

[unborn raft]

I keep forgetting the extreme gives a ticket.

[old orchid]

Its the daily stage

Daily Extreme Battle, right?

[unborn raft]

Yea, i don’t have stamina for the other one xD

[toxic cobalt]

If you want to try, Sinnoh buddies unite is the easiest. The others have a big range of difficulty.

In general, use your stamina for the daily extreme battles first

[unborn raft]

So once I bough everything on shop, just do the daily one right?

Or is it worth using stamina on the other stage?

[toxic cobalt]

Daily stage is always best, then use your other stamina on events you haven't finished yet

[unborn raft]

Got it, thanks again you guys.

[main crow]

1/5 SS Piers presyncs 3k post sync param Cait

[undone ether]

zapdos goes brrr o.o~

1/5?

[wide adder]

meanwhile my electric team this week was just messing with my 1/5 N as i always do. +4 atk SEUN 2Rebuff and ETerrain was enough to oneshot mid after suppEX sync on my presync params (which has quite a bit of strength)

[old orchid]

N ontype is stupid regardless of level altho the man needs so much help

[undone ether]

i've had him 2/5 for a while now

i did have some chances to 3/5 him waaay back when, but its kinda difficult to give him strike candies when Ash exists .-.;

[paper summit]

those issues are even more evident against Aaron, too bad Piercing Blows is useless against Sentry Entry x2

you can still win using the guy but it's not a free battle, I'd rather use Hau or even Clemont

[old orchid]

this man demands good 3/5 expansion

[undone ether]

Power Boost tiles? 😮

[silver dirge]

My man is sub par even at 5/5 his kit just ain't it anymore

[paper summit]

his gauge is cringe no matter the move level, so sad

doesn't matter on type but still...

[silver dirge]

[old orchid]

[sick inlet]

I already play max STR at 2.5k

[silver dirge]

Jo that was several days ago

[left storm]

Also max STR at 2.5? I didn't do more than +9 STR at 3k

[sick inlet]

That's the last time I opened this chat

[sick inlet]

Built different

[grand trout]

kanto doesnt have physical or special preferences on types like the other regions, right?

[civic trellis]

Yeah I think its only sinnoh hoenn and kalos who do

[silver dirge]

Yea Kanto is baby mode

[main crow]

Kanto is beyond baby mode lbr

[toxic cobalt]

Arch committing to an eggmon run

[silver dirge]

absolutely not

[grand trout]

do eet

[left storm]

I hadn't tried NC blue with ssleaf yet...

3k points btw, forgot to specify

[left storm]

Jasmine is 1/5, not bad at all

[rich needle]

what be your conditions these days if you just wanna get 3k and turn the brain off thinkin about it

basically what conditions do you use if ur lazy and use the same for all 5 stages

[left storm]

This SSL clear had this as 3k

For other clears just tick on status block and take away the +1 atk

If you don't plan of debuffing, maybe also consider taking no drops and take away +3 atk or +1 str

[rich needle]

perfect thenks

[left storm]

If you're also running some dummy silly striker like Zerena

You can drop +3 STR and get -2/3 sync cd

Since stage will implode from first sync anyway

[rich needle]

but that require thinketh

[silver dirge]

Ally HP Half is often a free 200 pts too depending on comp

[left storm]

Yeah, and stage

Some stages will one/two tap support or striker with 1/2 hp

So it's risky

[silver dirge]

Yeah

[wide adder]

half hp i dont touch most of the time cause a single aoe move will just delete a fragile striker half the time then if it doesnt have Endure

although NCalem might make me more willing to consider the option with the team endure on entry node he can grab iirc

hope more units get Team Safe Start as a passive in the future

having a safety net for atleast 1 aoe move just is really nice

especially since usually a single Snarl won't be enough to turn off endure, unlike with a teamwide Protect effect

[left storm]

Tbh I think the only really REALLY aggravating AoE abuser stage in CSMM is ice weak drake

Garchomp spamming EQ with mid

Fuck that stage, made me 3/5 hleon 3 months before SSN dropped

[paper summit]

Glacia's Blizzard spam is not funny either tbh

[left storm]

True but sides spam mostly ST at least

[wide adder]

Bertha Steel Weak spamming moves most Steel types are weak to:

[rich needle]

I desire up stacking

[left storm]

True but without sand her damage, even SE, is not as absurd as sandless drake not SE

[unborn raft]

I see that there's flying weakness for next week. I got Falkner & Swellow 3/5, is he worth building up?

oh and I got Gladion 3/5 too

[toxic cobalt]

He is a support, ignore his type

[unborn raft]

Gladion & Silvally

[left storm]

Gladion is fine for types you're completely lacking units for

But really needs EX

[drifting steppe]

Remember than you don't have to build monotype teams for cs

So you are a lot freer with support types to put around your damage dealer

[old orchid]

Pidgeot Blue is a good striker, especially when you get him at 3/5

[unborn raft]

I have him leveled up but he's only 1/5 atm

[old orchid]

Thats fine, tho you needs heavier support to help him

[unborn raft]

I really like the Kanto trio too

[toxic cobalt]

Once Blue gets to 2/5 it gets easier. Otherwise there is always Kahili

[old orchid]

Offtyping with strong dmg dealers is always a good alternative strategy if your ontype dmg dealers cant beat stages

Yeah Kahili is solid but she demands a bit investment on sync grid and needs dps help

[unborn raft]

Kahili, the 4 star character?

[cinder summit]

Kahili & Toucannon

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

None

[unborn raft]

oh nice, I do have her 5/5

[old orchid]

She only needs Haymaker tier to be usable

[unborn raft]

These are my flying types. I know I can always off-type but playing lots of different characters really make me enjoy the game a lot.

[old orchid]

Thats nice. She just needs dps help and crit/atk support

Any atk/crit support + Blue are good teammates for her

[toxic cobalt]

Do you have Hop EX?

[unborn raft]

I have hop zazenta, no ex though

[old orchid]

Thats okay

[unborn raft]

Gonna try something like this, hopefully it works out.

[old orchid]

for Solgaleo's team you should replace Jasmine with a crit buffer

also is Kanto a new region for you? you should add more types as possible to your teams to get medal faster

[unborn raft]

Oh yeaa, I have to do that again don’t I.

So no master mode next week then :/

[old orchid]

You have to do it once for each region

When they return you dont have to get medal again

[unborn raft]

I was wondering why the medal was very specific. Now it makes sense xD

[rose ermine]

Do you guys think I'll be able to do 3k csmm easily

[old orchid]

yes ofc

tho Lance team might face gauge issue a lot, i recommend replacing CCalem with SS Morty

[rose ermine]

Ok

[obtuse hound]

I need help beating cs unova at 2500. First off what should I put for 2500 and who should I start with.

these are my sync pairs

[old orchid]

You should check the pins for recommended param sets

Then, pick a dmg dealer for each fight, and build a team around each of them

[silver dirge]

||go to sleep ||

[old orchid]

||nope||

[silver dirge]

you've got quite the roster there, 2.5k should be pretti breezy

[rotund lagoon]

Is this your first time doing MM at 2.5k?

[ornate ridge]

Tryna obtain all pieces I would really appreciate the help

[silver dirge]

Is there any chance you could send some static pics of your roster, or fill in the tracker? It's a lil tough to keep track of the units as you scroll

[ornate ridge]

Oh sorry lemme see

[silver dirge]

Ty!

Okay gimmi a min

[ornate ridge]

[silver dirge]

• Caitlin: N, Sonia, Viola (Electric, Bug)
  Make sure Sonia has MPR and Crit Squad on grid

• Grimsley: SS Erika, Blaine, Leaf (Normal)

• Marshal: Janine, Skyla, Lucy (Poison, Flying)
  This is a poison stall, poison/trap them with Janine, Skyla buffs defenses/potions and Janine debuffs their offenses with Venom Drench

• Iris: Piers, NC Red, Maylene (Dark, Fighting)

I'm missing a type

Ah fighting

Okay there we go that should do it

Also I'm not sure if it'll matter for hard mode, but you should get the above to around lvl ~120 for a more comfortable clear. Give it a shot first and see how you go

[ornate ridge]

Ok thx

@silver dirge sorry for pinging you but just to be sure is there a certain order the units have to go or anywhere is fine?

[silver dirge]

Do you mean as in which stage you should battle first?

If so, doesn't matter can be in any order

[ornate ridge]

This

[silver dirge]

Ah, in that case it's up to your personal preference. Just make sure the tank is target 1

Are you familiar with the teambuilding guide & triple queueing?

[ornate ridge]

To a degree but I have no idea what triple queuing is

[silver dirge]

+triplequeue

[frozen depot]

In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.

See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[silver dirge]

Here ya go, I also recommend giving #1010307000346878062 a quick read to get you caught up on the basics

[ornate ridge]

Ok thx

[ornate ridge]

@silver dirge just wanna say thx for the tips and I finally did it!

[onyx veldt]

Sorry for the question but when checking the pin for the rec params is there a best practice how to choose what columns to go with a stage? I tried Caitlin with both elec red and SS elesa and didn't do much probably bc I only had 1 support and it was leaf so maybe I need to shuffle my teams a bit more

[paper summit]

hold on, you mean SST Red?

did you have physical damage reduction 8 active by any chance?

those presets are not supposed to just be copied blindly, you need to pay attention to what your team needs, be the category of moves, if it's on type or off type, if they need to be able to apply debuffs or special conditions and so on, and you adjust the presets to your needs

[onyx veldt]

Ohhh right I'm dumb thought it was the entire row so it was 2.5k total and that was the important part.
And yeah I did had phys 8 active which explains a lot bc I didn't read the fine print (80% is a lot less damage) than thinking there's probs 7 other of that param

[silver dirge]

No worries, gg!

[north crown]

who needs help?

[primal field]

I assume, points cap has increased for same amt. of total parameters?

[old orchid]

the cap is raised, but we dont get any new parameters

[grand steppe]

where is sprint and field x3 damage

[dapper forum]

Who should i use as my 3rd?

[old orchid]

you shouldnt build monotype team

is this master mode?

[dapper forum]

Yea

[silver dirge]

Yea you don't need to worry about building mono-type teams, only your damage dealer's type matters

If you're going to run Ghetsis and N together, you should have a mixed support that can help with gauges

[dapper forum]

These are my supports

[old orchid]

i see Sycamore and SS Blue

[silver dirge]

Tbh I'd replace Ghetsis

[dapper forum]

Really?

I thought he was pretty good damage

sad I cant even up my lucky skills right now. Ran out of them before I got N.

[silver dirge]

Oh you're using him for damage, I thought he was just there to noble roar in order to set up N's innate. That's fine then SS B should work I think, space out the TMs

[dapper forum]

I dont know how to use N XD. felt like Ghetsis did all the damage but a win is a win.

[old orchid]

Usually TM > Freeze Shock -> Noble Roar -> FS > repeat

That assumes N doesnt sync

[dapper forum]

3 more to go. Any suggestions? Will level up surge if i use him.

[old orchid]

I recommend bringing another Electric dmg dealer in Surge's spot and use another support to help that dmg dealer

Because field effect setters want to be paired with another dmg dealer

[dapper forum]

Who do you suggest? The other hau?

[tired sleet]

The other Hau’d work, since SS Hau enhances Special Damage
But you’d want to replace Sonia for someone that buffs crit

[old orchid]

If you cant get dupes for Hau atm, use Clemont

Tho Cle wants some grid investment for sync multipliers

[tired sleet]

If you’re going to use clemont, then i’d suggest bringing a SpAtk buffer support, and use Clemont’s TM before he syncs for sure crit

[dapper forum]

Ok I beat it with dual hau and proton.

Oh no....

Its poison.

Can i win with roxie 😆

Those other two im not using i just pressed optimize

[old orchid]

Yes you can make her work. Do note that poison stalling is always a good strat especially on Poison weak stages

Also dont use optimize button, its a really bad feature

[pearl shale]

Iirc there was a recommended list for what to turn on in masters mode right?

What was it called

[old orchid]

it is called

[pearl shale]

Damn

Okay

[toxic cobalt]

Our most sacred recommendation

[old orchid]

[dapper forum]

A lot easier than i thought considering i just started playing 😊

[toxic cobalt]

well done!

[dapper forum]

Rewards are a tad underwhelming though sadly

[undone ether]

like an Omni Candy Coin at the top? :o?

[old orchid]

[unborn raft]

Congrats! When did you start?

[wide adder]

I know I don’t need to monotype, but just as a rough draft. Mainly supports I might change units in the slots of. General thoughts? For 3kcsmm kanto week1

1/5 n 3/5 ncblue 1/5 proton 2/5 ss Ethan 3/5 irida 1/5 ssn for the limiteds

[old orchid]

all of these teams are okay

[wide adder]

I wonder which team would prob be the halfsync stage if we end up with that param next week

Cause that’s the main param that really changes the clears imo

[undone ether]

is that a 1/5 registeel?

[old orchid]

Registeel move level doesnt matter

[wide adder]

Yeah it’s 1/5 regi I don’t have dupes of any bp pairs

[undone ether]

Power Boosted Solgaleo then?

[wide adder]

Yep

Pbex

[undone ether]

kewl then

[old orchid]

some of your teams are good defensively so it shouldnt be a problem

[pearl shale]

NC Red can ignore damage reduction right?

[old orchid]

wdym by damage reduction? if its shield like Light Screen crit can ignore it

[silver dirge]

He can't ignore Special Damage Reduction/Standard Damage Reduction. That was fixed

[pearl shale]

The uhh

The master mode thing

[pearl shale]

Aw

[left storm]

Oh piercing blows was fixed in latest datamine?

[silver dirge]

ya

[left storm]

Sad

[silver dirge]

you know what wasn't fixed? Rei's grid

[keen jasper]

How about you fix ||yo nuts||

[signal garnet]

😄

[dreamy sparrow]

Can I get some help on marshal and Caitlin? Might need help for iris but not there yet

Kind of on the right track with Caitlin, haven’t tried marshal yet

[silver dirge]

Try a poison stall on Marshal, there should be suggested params in the pins. A quick team suggestion is Lucy, Janine and Swimsuit Misty. Lucy poisons and traps, Janine uses Venom Drench to debuff their offenses (increase your survivability) and Misty provides the team with defenses, as well as healing. The idea here is to stall them out as long as possible while taking minimum damage so they die to poison/trap

If you have more effective options for any of the above, say maybe BP Clement instead of Swimsuit Misty, you can always opt for those to make it smoother

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok, I’ll try that. I got lucky and beat caitlin with flinches

Should I try the 2000 presets or the 2500 presets for my first master mode run?

[silver dirge]

Whatever you're comfortable with. If it's your first time you can try a lil lower and see how you fair, or jump in at 2.5k and if you struggle reduce em accordingly

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok. I’ll prob try 2000 since that’s around what I used on other stages

Also I do have bp clemont, but he’s only 1/5 vs misty 5/5. Is he still better?

Might have some other good units, will have to check to see if they fill the same roles

[junior crown]

for poison stall 0 points is almost the same as 2500 points, so if you're poison stalling go for 2500

[mellow linden]

If you have a 3/5+ BP Morty he’s got a small edge over Misty + Psyduck due to increased defensive buff reliability and potential for extra chip damage from Confuse Ray

[junior crown]

BP Clemont really wants 3/5 for the synchro healing, so better to use SwinMisty

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok

[junior crown]

if you need here are some examples of poison stall teams: #1097597679015567420 message

[dreamy sparrow]

For trappers I have bp Erika (1/5), Bertha (4/5), Serena (5/5), and Wallace (3/5), not counting f2p pairs. Bad poison is only bp Erika and f2p units

Can’t use koga for bad poison, already used him, so either 3/5 Lucy or 1/5 bp Erika

[keen jasper]

I'm kinda excited for 3k pts. on Monday

[junior crown]

both works, you can choose any of them

and trap is only aditional, if you need to choose between debuffer and trapper, choose the debuffer

[dreamy sparrow]

Oh ok

[junior crown]

so pairs that do multi things, like BP Erika/Lucy/Viola, are good (viola for special attack stages)

[dreamy sparrow]

Feel like Lucy would be better since she’s 3/5

[junior crown]

only if you're spending in her grid

[dreamy sparrow]

I have a couple orbs left over

Idk if it’s worth spending, only got around 17k

[junior crown]

you can save and use BP Erika and only get the toxic accuracy if you don't want to miss

or can go with 90 accuracy, you just need to use it 3 times anyway

Lucy has 90 acc on wrap and 50% poison without hostile and warp acc from grid

so BP Erika is better if you want to save orbs

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok I’ll use her then

Does Janine need gridded at all

[junior crown]

No

but SwinMisty does

at least the synchro healing

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok gotcha

I just noticed I’m low on level cap materials

Oof

[junior crown]

you can try it on lv 100, maybe just raise SwinMisty if needed

does she have Vigilance?

[dreamy sparrow]

As a lucky skill?

[junior crown]

yes

[dreamy sparrow]

No, but I have some cookies

[junior crown]

if you can, give it to het

and farm cookies when we have LG available

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok

I’ll try for it

Got it first try let’s go

Dude, poison stall was the easiest thing I’ve ever done holy

[junior crown]

that's why I do 5 teams of it all CS

[dreamy sparrow]

I could try it again for iris but idk if I have enough units

Wish I could have 5 teams

[junior crown]

you'll get there

and you'll get more ontype pairs too

Since it's Dragon Iris you can so it with Cyrus

don't need to poison stall if you can do it ontype

only if you want of course

[dreamy sparrow]

I do have Cyrus, unfortunately not boosted

[junior crown]

you can it without the boost

[dreamy sparrow]

Just did poison stall again lol

[junior crown]

you went 2.5k each poison stall right?

[dreamy sparrow]

Yeah

Might try and reset, might be able to build one more stall team

[junior crown]

great, theorically the 4.2k rewards are the most important

but after clearing you can reset and improve if you want

if you can make 3 poison stall teams just need to do 2 ontypes

considering only F2P pairs, you can do ontype on Iris with Cyrus and on Shauntal with Ghetsis

and poison stall the other 3, but you can change it depending on your pairs

[dreamy sparrow]

Just tryna find a good tank that can buff defenses and heal. My only other tanks with heal and buffs are only physical buffs

[junior crown]

R1 will help you poison if you have 50% change (like Koga or ungridded Lucy) and do the ontype on R2 since it's boosted sync buff

[dreamy sparrow]

Used to use koga for sp def de buffs but he’s my only other bad poison unit so I’ll need him

How do I get to higher rounds?

[junior crown]

what do you mean?

The first you fight will be Round 1, the 4th you fight will be Round 4

you choose the order of the first 4 and the order of the fight is the round

[junior crown]

if you post your roster anyone here can help you build the teams

[dreamy sparrow]

Oh ok

Should I just take a bunch of screen shots of all my units?

[junior crown]

No

#916852044692856834 message

Use the tracker

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok

[dreamy sparrow]

sorry for delay, heres my roster

[junior crown]

ok, so for ontype we have Champ Red (Ice) and Adaman (Leaf)

I think you can even do eletric ontype with SS Hilbert if you want

Do you want to try eletric on type + 2 poison stalls on 3 poison stalls?

Can go super OP with Champ Blue + Volkner + SS Hilb

[junior crown]

R1 - Marshal: Lucy Janine Physical/Mixed Tank
R2 - Shauntal: Champ Red OG Misty Champ Leaf (just why not)
R3 - Caitlin: Champ Blue SS Hilbert Volkner // Viola Koga Special/Mixed Tank (if you want to poison stall)
R4 - Grismley: Adaman SSErika Lodge Blue
R5 (with R1 parameter) - Iris: BP Erika Ghetsis Physical/Mixed Tank

Depending on who you have grid and vigilance:
Mixed Tanks: SwinMisty / OG Leaf
Special Tanks: Liza / Sycamore
Physical Tanks: Skyla / Lodge Gio / Sonia / Hop (Sonia and Hop last because sonia without 3/5 won't get +6 def and Hop is harder to buff def, needing more MPR)

In the future Lodge Blue is part of the Physical Tanks too and Champ Blue is mixed (specially if you combine him with 2 other Kanto to get even more from his master passive)

[dreamy sparrow]

I only have 5 more 3* cookies for vigilance, chance I couldn’t get it

[junior crown]

do you already have in any?

SwinMisty already have for example

[dreamy sparrow]

Ss blue has it

Lemme check other tanks

[junior crown]

The ontypes are OP they won't need it I believe

You just need one more vigilance from that list of tanks for the poison stall

[dreamy sparrow]

Only other one with vigilance is hop

I used clemont for Caitlin last time, forgot about hilbert

[junior crown]

So OG Leaf/Sycamore/Liza/Skyla/Lodge Gio/Sonia/Hop

Ok so go like this

[dreamy sparrow]

I’ll try for Sonia since she’s already ex

[junior crown]

R1 - Marshal: Lucy Janine Hop
R2 - Shauntal: Champ Red OG Misty Champ Leaf
R3 - Caitlin: Champ Blue SS Hilbert Volkner
R4 - Grismley: Adaman SSErika Lodge Blue
R5 (with R1 parameter) - Iris: BP Erika Ghetsis SwinMisty

[dreamy sparrow]

Who needs vigilance? Lodge blue?

[junior crown]

Maybe no one

try without it first

[dreamy sparrow]

Also isn’t champ red and champ leaf together kinda bad? With freeze + sun

[junior crown]

Champ Leaf is there for Leer + Potion

you won't user her other move

Does her Leer apply her passive (Love of Pallet)?

[mellow linden]

Leer is NC Leaf

SS Leaf is Razor Leaf

[junior crown]

ops sorry it was NC Leaf

[dreamy sparrow]

Yeah leer applies passive I believe

[junior crown]

so she is there to debuff sp def/sp attack, potions and boost kanto passive for Champ Red

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok

Which of the presets do I need besides poison stall? Some of these look basically the same

[junior crown]

Go on type pre sync more HP

remember to change for shauntal status condition to interference

[dreamy sparrow]

Ok

[junior crown]

yeah, leer applies her passive

[north crown]

anything happening?

[old orchid]

im still breathing

[zealous karma]

im not

😎

[keen jasper]

I'm not a big fan of it, the one and only time I poisoned stall was against Cynthia last year

And I'm actually proud of it (yes, I admit poison stall is a bad thing for me)

[pearl shale]

Wat abt it

[main crow]

His passives didn't trigger basically even when it's active

[silver dirge]

Aggravation & On the Roll on his grid are also bugged, as in they just don't work

[grand trout]

How we figured out best params for 3k yet

Have*

[old orchid]

the helper team is working on it!

[silver dirge]

[calm marsh]

[grand trout]

Ooh I'm interested

Good Luck to us tryhards tomorrow

[junior crown]

when that's a personal preference, if you don't like, then you don't need to do it, but it's not because you don't like it that it's bad and should not be recommend to others

[junior crown]

How was it?

[low linden]

Just 500 more points from usual won't be feeling the difference for me

[grand trout]

perhaps so

I'm excited nonetheless

[fallen lintel]

Hello

Whats generaly best to pick here

I plan to use zarena to blast tham

[old orchid]

like i and Chezei said earlier, you should pick the parameter to benefit your team the most

who are you going to use?

[swift swan]

is that the champion battle?

[fallen lintel]

Im still not sure

[fallen lintel]

Y

[swift swan]

R2 parameter is probably the safest bet, as long as you kill the enemy before they sync

[old orchid]

you said you plan to use Zerena, so just build a team around her

[fallen lintel]

I ment serena

[old orchid]

SS Serena is commonly called Zerena here

[fallen lintel]

[old orchid]

well, Champion Calem and Zerena are a strong core, the third can be anyone to help with gauge

i see Nita

[fallen lintel]

Ok i could u that

[swift swan]

Nita helps with speed but she's also pretty gauge heavy, no? Fly will ruin queues

speed buffer with light gauges will do, like skyla

[fallen lintel]

And what sould i pick from thos options

Sync move one?

[swift swan]

yes

[fallen lintel]

Thx

[old orchid]

yea thats better

[fallen lintel]

[old orchid]

[versed meteor]

Where 3k presets

[mellow linden]

Probably won’t be out until tomorrow or within a couple days after

Since iirc the goal is to avoid confusion that could arise from having 3k parameters before 3k is out

[silver dirge]

For the meantime, if you're confident with 2.5K params, 3K is just a matter of a little more strength or adjusting some stuff around to get those 500 more points in. If your team is super tanky, you can pick up things like Ally HP at start halved, or if your team clears super fast, you could even pickup sync countdown -1/-2/-3.

[versed meteor]

Wasn't it already confirmed no new params?

[silver dirge]

There are no new params

Cobalt's referring to having suggestions for 3K params before the game has the option to choose all those params

[mellow linden]

Yeah, having example parameter sets for a score that isn’t out yet could confuse people, so it’s likely that the update will happen either tomorrow or soon after, once the updated point cap is available

[dreamy sparrow]

Didn’t try it yet, got busy. Trying today

[dreamy sparrow]

Just did it, went well

[junior crown]

done 12.5k?

[dreamy sparrow]

Yep

[junior crown]

congratz!

[wicked pebble]

How's this?

[zealous karma]

Very free

[onyx veldt]

Can I build more than one poison stall teams with these pairs or just use the best poison pair on marshall for mm?

[tired sleet]

You could build multiple stall teams, yes (eg Ariana, Lucy, Koga, etc)

[rain turret]

who do I use on the grass and electric fights
I already got 2500 from ice and poison and iris is ez with zerena so I just need those two to get my first 12500

[tired sleet]

SS Lyra + SS Erika + Support
Elesa + Volkner/Nemona + Support

[fluid vessel]

of course they had to be the first two

[undone ether]

This should be good enuff for lance hum?

[mellow linden]

If gauge isn’t an issue then yeah, should be fine. I assume Argenta is there for Physical Up stacking?

[undone ether]

Yep

He can flinch though ooof. We'll see

[mellow linden]

Flinch is practically a non-issue, just reset if flinch RNG is bad

[rain turret]

argenta is so ugly

[mellow linden]

That's a topic for #poma-lounge

[main trellis]

with the CS upgrade to 15k, what are ppl usually adding to the standard 3k run per stage

[mellow linden]

It'll likely vary a lot from person to person. Some example parameter sets for 3k points should be posted here within the next couple days, though

[undone ether]

For me... If 3k is too much, ill do 2.9k

After testing a bit, some teams ive got can do 3k no problem

So itll depend on our round options

[old orchid]

not on our teams as well?

[zealous karma]

i might still just do 2.5K if I am too busy

as I in a good conscious wont off type with zerena _ frogs

[undone ether]

Tbh my current team kinda iffy with vs lance

I might do offtype for it though

[north crown]

what's happening

[low linden]

It's kanto shouldn't be hard to 3k lol

[paper summit]

no modern pair should have issues to 3k, especially when most people stick to on type

[north crown]

• poison stall exists

[zealous karma]

ew

[fluid vessel]

[paper summit]

and people wonder why some just have no clue how to beat hard battles

[fluid vessel]

[low linden]

Just build 5 poison stall team and use same parems

[fluid vessel]

you can perfectly do that

[low linden]

It's the easy way out really

If anything cannot be poison stalled just use your strongest team

[fluid vessel]

if it is something hard enough to not be poison stalled then it definitely is not CS

[low linden]

[trail smelt]

Last hour get your stadium done