Champion Stadium

[fiery canopy]

it is not too late, ty!

for sp atk buff how about liza?

psychic terrain ummm let me see

uhh which pkmn have that again

[old orchid]

Bianca is the most accessible option

do you have Anni May?

[fiery canopy]

no and no

[old orchid]

so no Psychic Terrain

do you have Lucian?

or SS Brendan

[fiery canopy]

no and no again T_T

[old orchid]

then just a tank who buffs defense and a spatk buffer

[fiery canopy]

kk

[crystal notch]

I'm not familiar with how to use falkner.

He seems pretty...paper thin

[old orchid]

he is

[crystal notch]

How should I use fly? Can I have a turn by turn demo/write down

[old orchid]

tbh you should never click Fly

[crystal notch]

Generally I get the idea that flinch would help recover the lost sync countdowns

But ehhh...

[old orchid]

they designed him being an offensive support + dodge with fly

at 3/5 he unlocks 60% flinch, which is made up for his bulk and the turns lost by using Fly

[crystal notch]

...I'm obviously not candying him just for this lmao

[manic kiln]

i only use fly after the mid is down

[crystal notch]

Time to rng for tm from lorelei side?

yeah I have 0 idea how to pilot this team

mind giving me some pointers?

press alolan breeze once, press soar once, thunder fang for flinch?

[toxic cobalt]

Risky team

Only 2/5 Hau is tough

[crystal notch]

great, offtype time

[toxic cobalt]

Have you tried using MC Pikachu?

[crystal notch]

...I mean, tbh, I still have a lot of unused ex supports

[crystal notch]

no, not really

tbh I have like, 4 striker candies

if no one else wants it from the 3 and 4 star pool

I'll use it on him

[toxic cobalt]

Another sad day for Potionchu

[crystal notch]

so, yay or nay?

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah 3/5 Hau

No question

[crystal notch]

potionchu is just potion bot right

[toxic cobalt]

Potionchu is everything

[crystal notch]

also for support, does it really need to be falkner?

[toxic cobalt]

No, any spatk crit buffer

[crystal notch]

that's a pretty hard requirement ngl

I'm reserving cede for bugsy nuke

...lemme send my supports

[toxic cobalt]

But why Bugsy is a physical attacker

[crystal notch]

actually good point

cede hau volkner then?

bugsy + mayziken + ssa cynthia would work maybe... or ex ss blue? vs blue

planning out my last team

to ensure no resets needed

[toxic cobalt]

I mean, Bugsy Hop Skyla works SSACynthja should be fine

[crystal notch]

noted

well, will 3/5 him, he wants his sync grid right

I sure hope this is a good investment

[toxic cobalt]

Hau could it not be?

[crystal notch]

LMAO

[rotund lagoon]

Uhhhh don’t you get 5/5 MC Pika for free?

[crystal notch]

Yeah?

[toxic cobalt]

Praise be to Potionchu, let your light guide us

[rotund lagoon]

You were phrasing it like you were gonna candy MC

[crystal notch]

...wait, would it be easier with 5/5 potionchu than 3/5 hau? Really?

[toxic cobalt]

No

[crystal notch]

Nah I know better than that

[toxic cobalt]

Just cheaper and more based

[crystal notch]

I was merely asking if there's a striker somewhere in that 4 star pool

That would appreciate candies more

And generally be more useful in the future

I need a fairy striker not named mina and granbull

[rotund lagoon]

Mina slander

[crystal notch]

I just don't like granbull

[toxic cobalt]

Who you gonna candy. Valerie? Cmon

[crystal notch]

I'm sorry mina

Lmao

[rotund lagoon]

Wait

Is that your roster, Arts?

[crystal notch]

Nope

[rotund lagoon]

Oh

[manic kiln]

use lodge lillie

[crystal notch]

That's aurochs

[toxic cobalt]

More Mina slander

[crystal notch]

Don't even have a lillie

AloVA crushed my dreams

Will try it out

Once I finish my work

[manic kiln]

no other f2p options for fairy, use sycamore as a striker then

[crystal notch]

I meant it as

"sigh mina it is grumble grumble grumble"

not

"I REFUSE TO USE MINA AND MAKE EVERYONE'S LIFE HERE HARDER"

lisia is dragon dps btw?

[dark osprey]

A bit more techy actually

[manic kiln]

she's meh as both dragon and fairy. she's more like a flinch bot, can tank sometimes and clear field effects

[tribal agate]

i preach Mina all the time i can for Fairy weak it's so hard to sell her to beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHJl74zzvzw
She's very friendly and helpful

[dark osprey]

Can be used for additional dragon and fairy DPS if you want though

[dark osprey]

You have to EX her now since you've said that

[tribal agate]

jokes on you that was in my plans she's 5*

[dark osprey]

Whoa

[toxic cobalt]

I’m trying to preach the Nukechu

[dark osprey]

One day

It will be heard

Remember there used to be those power reserves clears earlier

Those seemed fun

[bright furnace]

power reserves 14...

[crystal notch]

....wait she can benefit from sc steven

Otw building mina

[tribal agate]

everyone can tbh lol

SC Steven is global

well

physical global

[crystal notch]

I'll ignore granbulls wonky face

[crystal notch]

Special: desperate times call for desperate measures

SEUN abuse

And that rebuff ig

[toxic cobalt]

They face away from you

[tribal agate]

here i hope this helps

[swift swan]

Mina mina mina mina!!!

#1011173305702690876 message my Mina propaganda

[crystal notch]

yall pulling for ss mina then?

I dunno, I might reconsider if magearna comes out

[swift swan]

on the fence. I want to pull SS Mina out of respect for OG Mina

[dark osprey]

I hate the team combo of the minas though

Double support needed

[tribal agate]

eh not necessarily https://i.imgur.com/n2jukFu.png

[dark osprey]

I mean Mina and SS Mina

[tribal agate]

oh

[old orchid]

Sonia

[dark osprey]

Lol. Distracted from mina

SS Mina at 1/5 wouldn't help with mina's second sync nuke right?

[tribal agate]

unless you sync accelerate, the extension won't last long enough

[dark osprey]

Probably will take sync countdown -2 then

[zealous karma]

Just rely on flinch order if you know how

[crystal notch]

Btw

Speed buffers other than skyla?

Tried running winona but...hau wants his inertia

Most of my speed buffers are phys buffers too

So sad

[toxic cobalt]

Marley

Roxanne

Masked Rouale

[old orchid]

Lodge Dawn, Lodge Blue

[crystal notch]

Wait

Nvm

[old orchid]

Sycamore

[crystal notch]

His tm gives him +6

Speed

But he hits like a wet noodle?...

[zealous karma]

Only 7K from 2/5 Hau sync smh I didn’t have terrain up

[crystal notch]

Gah

[crystal notch]

even with 3/5

I find he can't presync

it's on 6 sp atk

6 spd

max crits

what the?...

fine, back to flinch gaming

[toxic cobalt]

You’re using terrain?

[crystal notch]

I was trying out winona

volkner cede hau having some gauge issues

[toxic cobalt]

Even with speedy Hau?

[crystal notch]

I was using his nuke grid

but yeah

as soon as cbede syncs

gauge just dies

[toxic cobalt]

You can use his one bar to get sync down no need to discharge every time

[crystal notch]

I see

[zealous karma]

I’ve beat every other electric stage with this team for available teams and yet Lorelei I can’t I hate electric lol rekey

If only I crit the delibird (same grid as before)

[toxic cobalt]

Sync is more important than one turn of dps. I just did a Hop Acerola LSyc event battle and that was a gauge night mare. Was skipping my LSyc turns so the other two could use one bars.

[toxic cobalt]

MC torchic !

[crystal notch]

oh I braindeaded

set no terrain

due to trying out winona

[zealous karma]

And I have to much HP

[toxic cobalt]

Why Winona that’s so random

[crystal notch]

flinch gaming thoughts

on a more serious answer

[bright furnace]

my usual teammates with Hau were sabrina and volkner

[crystal notch]

gauge issues

[zealous karma]

Same

I assume that’s a 1/5 Sabrina for gauge issues?

[crystal notch]

L

19k damage

not enough to kill lorelei

that's with a flinch and electric terrain

time to shift around the max hp 2 param

[storm quest]

Just noticed the parameter preset options. Noice.

Can't seem to figure out electric Lorelei still. I already used my cMarnie to offtype Agatha. My electric pairs just don't seem quite strong enough. Probably a grid problem, but I have to be choosey who I spend orbs on right now.

[keen jasper]

Hau is good enough

[crystal notch]

Got it done at last

[rotund lagoon]

@crystal notch Here’s my Mina propaganda also more if you scroll down a bit #1073655215363985498 message

[crystal notch]

Will watch later

[rotund lagoon]

Mine are screenshots lmao

[storm quest]

Does he need more than 1/5? He wasn't hitting hard enough at 1/5 for me

[crystal notch]

Yeah I just saw

5k on sidea

Rip

[crystal notch]

Yea 3/5

Or at least 2/5

[rotund lagoon]

I mean, that was off type sync

[crystal notch]

Thankfully 4* red candy isn't that hard to find

[toxic cobalt]

1/5 Hau is possible but only with Sycamore and it is long

[crystal notch]

True

[storm quest]

For inertia I'm guessing?

[swift swan]

Imo just 3/5 Hau. His nuke is worth

And it will save your ass against Aaron if you lack limited options trust me

[storm quest]

Hmm. It's that good, huh? Lemme see what I can do.

3/5 for the sync power tiles, yeah?

[zealous karma]

My beloved

[junior crown]

And one tip, if you want to offtype someone, Lorelei is the one to offtype

Anyone else it's easier to poison stall ig you are struggling

Eletric will be hard without Hau 3/5 gridded (if you don't have any other eletric dps)

[storm quest]

I have volkner but.. meh. I pushed Hau to 3/5 and grabbed the important tiles; it was enough. Thanks

[crystal notch]

Volkner isn't dps

He's used to set terrain and flinch

[keen jasper]

His Wild Charge is his DPS tho

[paper summit]

There are better options for damage, but he can work as dps

It's just he has better things to do than focusing on that

[bright furnace]

Hey i used volkner for dps that one time

[rotund lagoon]

Volkner DPS be like

[onyx ice]

I guess Volker can nuke mid and DPS sides with wild charge

[keen jasper]

Next unit for Pokemas Day?

Give him Steadfast nodes like Elesa?

[onyx ice]

Next upgrade is ethan

Elesa got a pretty good expansion

Better nuke and usable dps

[storm quest]

I tried this exactly one (1) time. Ugly-laughed out loud right after he KO'd himself in one move. Worth it.

[paper summit]

Having only standfast 5 is

[zealous karma]

I used him as my main electric damage dealer at some point it worked okay enough

Then again that was 2K and over a year ago

[brave halo]

So trying to build water for the second week of cs next month, but not sure between hilbert, Eliot, or sycamore here

Wait nevermind on hilbert actually

[void wyvern]

Well looking at who you have. You need special attack and crit. For this team to function.

So which supports provide that?

[trail smelt]

Does BP Jasmine give Crit and special attack? I forget

[void wyvern]

Only 1 crit

Via team sharp entry

[trail smelt]

Ah shame

Oh MChic is right there lol

[brave halo]

I have Kiawe tho if that could work

[void wyvern]

Kiawe could.

I see more accessible options though.

[brave halo]

If anything, not like I'm actually attacking with him

[void wyvern]

Why not use Mc and torchic

Gives special attack and crit quickly, decent gauge, and saves your other supports

[brave halo]

I could, sadly never gave it a grid yet if that means anything here

[void wyvern]

It isn’t super necessary for this particular team comp

But you have time to grid it if you want to

[brave halo]

I might do it after I finish up marley

[old orchid]

Cyrus is the better choice than Siebold

[brave halo]

Going one at a time to not tax my brain up

[civic trellis]

first of all dont tank with siebold maybe sycamore siebold may

[brave halo]

Wait wouldn't the dragon sync part interfere with that?

[void wyvern]

Not at all.

He’s going to be using hydro pump after all.

[crystal notch]

you can sync with another

[brave halo]

I know he has that but like gets me stumped, assuming I did use Sycamore, who am I supposed to sync first

[crystal notch]

just so cyrus gets a hydro pump off

yeah just sync with sycamore then

you get a teamwide buff

[brave halo]

Wait should I run sycamore with cyrus? Like do they work well together?

[crystal notch]

there's really no point to always syncing with cyrus if not on type

[brave halo]

I swear sycamore is one the most confusing supports to me

[void wyvern]

So you use let’s say torchic, may and Cyrus.

You’re syncing with May here because May has the strongest sync and will get you the most damage.

[crystal notch]

oh right he's running may

which is on type

hmm, we're not doing rain team?

[void wyvern]

May is rain.

[brave halo]

Yeah she's my only method to rain dance

[crystal notch]

I was thinking classic winona

but good point

[void wyvern]

Winona is free and you have her

[crystal notch]

^just an fyi

[brave halo]

No grid tho

[void wyvern]

She doesn’t exactly need a grid to be used. Nor will she be used on this team.

[brave halo]

Oh

I misread, my bad

[crystal notch]

yeah may also gets speed under rain right
Racing Rain

[void wyvern]

May, Cyrus torchic is overkill for hard mode.

Don’t worry so much about optimizing.

[crystal notch]

tbh yeah

[brave halo]

If I remember, torchic was only meant for crit raising right?

[void wyvern]

No. Does special attack as well.

[old orchid]

Spatk + crit

Which helps May as well

[brave halo]

Oh that too, let me see who else I got, just in case I did have a grid ready

well filter doesn't help right now

[void wyvern]

Torchic is fine. Don’t really need anyone else.

[brave halo]

It's just a me thing, I like seeing my options naturally

[void wyvern]

Fair enough.

[brave halo]

I do have classic gio but I forget if he was used in one of the other teams for that week

[old orchid]

Torchic is fine, no need to change

[brave halo]

Looking at it, I realized Gio's TM also gives Gradual, something amazing for Cyrus due to the TM recoil, I feel ready for that cs stage now

[rotund lagoon]

Am I the only one worried about gauge?

[civic trellis]

That was my first thought

[civic trellis]

Bring skyla sycamore and cyrus

[rotund lagoon]

Also if Cyrus is gridded for Hydro Pump, he wants Speed too.

[civic trellis]

Skyla will help w speed and has potions

Sycamore also has gauge accel and grad healing

[brave halo]

What about May's passive?

Quickly charging the gauge in rain

[rotund lagoon]

Ramming Speed is a multiplier on Hydro Pump by grid.

[civic trellis]

Oh sycamore also maxes speed with his sync

So maybe sycamore may cyrus

[brave halo]

Now I'm even more confused

[rotund lagoon]

Well…you should know what rain does and what Cyrus’ grid does if you gridded him, right?

[brave halo]

Yep, but what I mean is who to actually choose for that third slot

Cause there's been torchic, me with classic gio, and now sycamore

[rotund lagoon]

So here are a few options you can do with Cyrus
You use his TM twice, which fully buffs Sp Atk and Speed, have Gradual Heal on him and start attacking from there
or
You get a Support to either buff his stats or heal him after he buffs himself.

Does that make sense?

[brave halo]

Yeah, just I'd rather not tick anyone off for choosing one and not the other

[rotund lagoon]

Tbh, that sort of thing is kinda inevitable

Someone will always have something to say and I say just learn what stuff does and use it to apply into your teambuilding so you know how to do so in the future.

[brave halo]

I guess so, I mainly chose classic gio for both the tm's

Cause I was told to raise spatk and crit

[rotund lagoon]

Well, you did not answer my first question. Is Cyrus gridded?

[brave halo]

Correct

All three are

[rotund lagoon]

What is Cyrus gridded for, exactly? You also need to read what you have done, and if the grid is not like the recommend in #1008010844547842079 , then change it.

[rotund lagoon]

First of all, send the grid layout instead of that list next time.

Second of all, your grid needs to be changed a bit.

Do this one instead if you do not have the full expansion.

Seeing your grid layout instead also lets me know if you have the expansion or not.

[brave halo]

Sorry figured it was faster

Give me a sec

Those are all three of the grids I got from the one pdf guide, the last one I can make into the one you have there tho

[rotund lagoon]

Idk what the first one is about tbh, that’s not in the doc in the channel I linked you
But yes, fix the third one

[brave halo]

They're all some of these grids

[rotund lagoon]

Oh ha, leave it to me to tap the wrong one on mobile

Just fix the third

[toxic cobalt]

Aurochs approves of this grid

Although given Cyrus is powerboosted it's not optimal

maybe

[brave halo]

Wait which one is the third exactly?

[rotund lagoon]

The one with all the Hydro Pump tiles gridded

~~Water ~~

[north crown]

You could probably use torchic with the rain duo since they do a shit ton of damage

[brave halo]

Oh that's the rain one

[north crown]

Cyrus’ health doesn’t matter cuz hpump goes BRRRRR

Also may’s damage is p good too

[brave halo]

Oh hold on, I forgot my first grid was the one you shared

I just forgot to finish it

Woops

[north crown]

Bruhhh

[rotund lagoon]

Alright, looks good.

[north crown]

Waitaminute since you want to run a crit buffer, wouldn’t sharp entry be better?

Eh shouldn’t matter much, just team synergy nitpicking

[rotund lagoon]

Crit Focus gives two crit ranks by a Spacial Rend Crit

I never use Sharp Entry nowadays

[north crown]

Could just ignore the need to press sr for an extra hp

In case that makes a diff

[brave halo]

I do have two ways to raise crit here

Both classic gio and cyrus

[rotund lagoon]

So you’re planning to not use Cyrus’ TM in that case?

If Gio is the Support?

[brave halo]

Probably once while tripleque with gio

[north crown]

Nah nah nah I advocate for using cyrus’ tm TWICE for ramming speed

[rotund lagoon]

I honestly forgot Gio raises the Atk and Sp Atk ranks by 3 ranks anyway

[north crown]

Could run torchic instead of cgio too to save him for another team if needed

[rotund lagoon]

~~For one use ~~

[north crown]

I’m p sure people advised to use torchic too cuz rain duo is OP

You can even turn deny left turn 4 with may sync + cyrus dps

[brave halo]

Yeah they did but I don't have it gridded yet but I could go after it after I finish up Marley, and I think the rest of the teams for that week is easier to build anyway

[north crown]

Bruhh don’t need no grid for torchic

[brave halo]

OK maybe a stretch with rock but I think I got ways around

[rotund lagoon]

Joey said this, no need to grid Torchic.

[north crown]

Seriously did you ignore people telling you that grid ISN’T always mandatory?

This is a goddamn teambuilding game

[brave halo]

I just naturally get a better sense of relief and assurance when I do have a grid

[north crown]

Yeah I get that, though sometimes it’s just extra safety nets like first aid and healthy healing

Which isn’t much for CS

[rotund lagoon]

Let’s not lose our heads here
And don’t hyperfixate so much on a grid, it differs between units.

[north crown]

Ash and CMarnie be like:

Weather master fair trio:

[rotund lagoon]

Cyrus is gridded for damage, not sure what May is gridded for if she is, but if she’s syncing, better be a nuke grid. MC Torchic is just there for the buffs, two bar spam and moral support.

[north crown]

Last time I checked, their May was 1/5

So not much

[rotund lagoon]

Then that’s fine too.

No grid works just fine

[civic trellis]

They have 4/5 may

[north crown]

Ah

So basically this is an ez match

I was probably thinking of someone else’s roster

Ok yeah 3/5 May has the potential to offtype so

[brave halo]

These are May's grids

[north crown]

Just go for accuracy buffs and nuke grid

[civic trellis]

Oh rlly? Good to know

[rotund lagoon]

Second grid.

The one where the top is highlighted.

[north crown]

Waitaminute is that an earth power grid I see? Goddamn

[rotund lagoon]

She does have a recommended Earth Power grid

Not needed here imo

[north crown]

Bruh

[rotund lagoon]

If May is nuking, you use the nuke grid

[north crown]

Which she is since no support ex and cyrus has dragon

[brave halo]

Yeah I originally had Seibold over cyrus due to being a strike with rain passives

[north crown]

I mean… his nuke can be good, but may is just better lol

[rotund lagoon]

And Cyrus is even better-better

[north crown]

*for DPS

[rotund lagoon]

Hydro Pump grid, plus Ramming Speed, good af DPS

[civic trellis]

If ur using sdr8 cyrus’ EX may do nothing anyway

[rotund lagoon]

Using wha?

[north crown]

Technically not true, since ex gives stats

[rotund lagoon]

It’s not the EX, but the 20/20 that gives stats

[north crown]

Oh

[rotund lagoon]

You just do it all at once, except for the Legendary Adventures pairs when you’re given the free custom

[civic trellis]

Standard reduction 8

Or is it hard mode

[brave halo]

Just regular hard mode

[rotund lagoon]

Well you should be good to go at this point anyway

[north crown]

Bruhhhh your should be worried more about your type medal 💀💀

Waitaminute is that why you wanted to use cgio? Ah makes sense

Eh nah just use a filler meatshield mon. The rain duo are both self sufficient anyways

@brave halo How many types did you get in your type medal?

[brave halo]

Sorry was driving but this'll be my first run into alola cs

[civic trellis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009554906568462476/1100344356319277076/AlolaCS.png

Uh there’s no water weak

[brave halo]

Already had that saved

Second week

[civic trellis]

For first week atleast

[brave halo]

Already have teams for first week

[north crown]

Oh shit speedty planning for 2 weeks

[civic trellis]

Oh

[north crown]

So could u paste those teams? Want to analyze

[brave halo]

Give me a bit to find them all

Tho electric is pretty easy at least

OK I know ssmorty needs to change in electric but regardless that's pretty easy

[north crown]

You do realize that to unlock MM, you need to use all 18 types right?

[brave halo]

I honestly completely forgot about the medal thing, I had no intention to attempt mm just yet

[north crown]

Bro you have the roster to do so, wait scratch that a f2p player can do so

[toxic cobalt]

Valerie

What are these teams. Just do the medal!

[brave halo]

Didn't have any other gridded fairy strikers at the moment

[north crown]

Fuck that sycamore carries anyways

[brave halo]

I swear sycamore should've been a tech

[north crown]

The actual fuc

[brave halo]

??

[toxic cobalt]

WHY DID YOU GRID VALERIE 😭

[brave halo]

I don't remember I think it was a long time ago

[toxic cobalt]

Well, you can use Sycamore, or you can off-type

[brave halo]

Honestly you know who I want to use despite he's only a 2/5?

I want to use gladion

[toxic cobalt]

Go for it

[civic trellis]

Just off type with zerena, will help with the dragon piece anyway

[brave halo]

Isn't dragon the week after tho?

[civic trellis]

If u add zerena u will have 11 types, 12 if u replace ss morty with a support of a type u havent used yet

U can still complete the medal

[brave halo]

But wait, I was told zerena and sycamore didn't work properly together

[toxic cobalt]

They don't but this isn't a hard battle

You can use whatever

[civic trellis]

zerena is strong enough and alola is in between the older and newer stadiums I think

Tho I didnt know she doesnt work well with sycamore

[brave halo]

I could do drake with ash and red cause well...

It's ash and red

[toxic cobalt]

Just use Ash or Red

[brave halo]

Covers dragon

Wait I forgot classic gio was in one of the teams, can't use normal if I did use gladion

[civic trellis]

U can repeat a few types, 10 and 8 should be doable

Plus if ur not going to mastermode u have 5 weeks to complete it

[brave halo]

Yeah I know, I had no plan to do MM for a while

[swift swan]

so why worry about min-maxing the types

[brave halo]

With how the teams are now, by the end of the second week I would've already finished the whole medal anyway, I think

[civic trellis]

Ig just use the teams ur currently using and after week 2 see what u have left and fit them in week 3

[brave halo]

Wait nope, forgot about poison

[civic trellis]

U could add maybe aaron with the pikachus since u dont have bug

[brave halo]

Wait, long shot but I could try sycamore, NY lillie, and sabrina

[swift swan]

all supports? why?

you don't need that many. bring a damage dealer

[brave halo]

Isn't that usually what sycamore wants to do a lot? This is why he confuses me to no end

[swift swan]

huh? can you elaborate

sycamore may be able to do decent damage but his role first and foremost is a support

[rotund lagoon]

What is it about Sycamore that confuses you?

[swift swan]

sycamore is pretty straightforward I feel

make him tank, sync with him

[brave halo]

The idea that he's a support but only one TM, and just constant attacking moves

Honestly the way the set looks, feels like he should've been a tech

[rotund lagoon]

Did you see his sync effects?

You read his full on kit, right?

[old orchid]

How can he be a tech with 0 dmg sync?

[civic trellis]

He’s a vampire cuz of horn leech I think

And 1 mp tm doesnt mean tech

[old orchid]

Tbf some tech have 1 mp TM

[civic trellis]

Like champ calem has a 1 use tm, same with ssac I think

[civic trellis]

Strikers do as well

[rotund lagoon]

I mean, Sycamore gives buffs for the team, just not in the traditional way

[crystal notch]

Sycamore's a support because his sync boosts all types of attack and defense stats to +6 (Except maybe crit, I forgor)

[civic trellis]

I think special defense/attack and speed

[rotund lagoon]

Sp Atk, Sp Df and Speed maxed at sync

Attack and/or Sp Atk buffs from being hit cause Team Shout

[brave halo]

Still the idea of just 3 full attacks, not a single status, that's where it throws me off

[swift swan]

status?

I mean, he's a support what do you expect

he's not there to bamboozle the enemies the way techs do

[rotund lagoon]

I Horn Leech spam cause maxed Speed at sync and he has tiles that help him heal himself better

[old orchid]

He doesnt have any tech-y stuff in his kit

Well maybe Moonblast On a Roll 1 but thats a bonus

[rotund lagoon]

Not big, basically

[brave halo]

Still I wish at least dazzling got changed

[rotund lagoon]

Nothing we can do about that

[old orchid]

The best you can do about that is sending feedback to dena, not to us

[brave halo]

Yeah that wouldn't go anywhere anyway

[rotund lagoon]

All you can do is read his kit and practice using him

[brave halo]

Well for now I need to change NY lillie

If I want bug, I have two options right now, being lusamine and guzma

[rotund lagoon]

Bugsy or Noland tho

[rigid flint]

Noland erasure smh my head

[old orchid]

Bugsy is better than Guzma unless Guzma is EX

[brave halo]

Neither bugsy or noland got grids, and at the moment guzma is 20/20

[rotund lagoon]

........remember what I said earlier?

[brave halo]

Actually wait, won't they not get as much from sycamore?

[rotund lagoon]

Who you planning to be the damage dealer? And what type?

[brave halo]

Well naturally this would be for the fairy stage next week

[rotund lagoon]

You got Mina?

[brave halo]

Only as 140 but that's it

I was gonna do Valerie, but you saw that got reacted to

[rotund lagoon]

In Mina's case, yeah she does want the grid over Valerie

[brave halo]

Actually wait could a 2/5 gladion work well with sycamore?

[swift swan]

Valerie's grid couldn't save her

[swift swan]

you still want a crit buffer

do you have Sycamore's EX and powerboost?

[brave halo]

Correct

Wait, NY lillie is a crit buffer

How's this look?

[swift swan]

for fairy?

[brave halo]

Correct

[swift swan]

sycamore doesn't help gladion much other than speed (his attack buffs are slow) but eh, if it's only hard mode, this will be fine

I think with teamwide +6 speed from sycamore, you'll have decent enough gauges to spam Sycamore's moonblast for extra DPS anyway

[rotund lagoon]

And PSA, I use Moonblast if Fairy weakness and Horn Leech for healing

To clear up some confusion

[swift swan]

I used to switch between them in CS, but now with standard dmg reduction and phys/spec damage reduction, not anymore

[rotund lagoon]

I exclusively use Horn Leech DPS

[brave halo]

Tho I'm gonna hope soon I pull gladion in tickets to get 3/5

I want to use him more often cause I like the type swapping

[swift swan]

that's great and dandy but most of the time you'll have better options

[rotund lagoon]

Problem with Gladion is because of his gimmick, the damage is not good

[swift swan]

currently he's just... unsatisfactory, to put it bluntly

[rotund lagoon]

You know who does cover multiple type weaknesses and does good damage? SS Hilbert

[marble orbit]

How do i build teams with this types i legit dont have a lot of pairs for these types

[old orchid]

On this week right?

[marble orbit]

Yeye

[old orchid]

Show us your roster by using this site

+tracker

[frozen depot]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

For newcomers/beginners, check the video below on how to properly showcase your pairs : https://i.imgur.com/A0XcAgZ.mp4

[marble orbit]

Do i show Just 5*s?

[old orchid]

Show all units you have

And their move level as well

[tired sleet]

I mean they don’t need to show 3*s

[toxic cobalt]

Yes just show 5*

[toxic cobalt]

Leaf, Koga/Janine, Clay/Hapu, SKYLA, Bugsy, ROXANNE, ACEROLA, HOP

I mean half of these are slam dunks that I'm shocked aren't in your teams

Wait screw bugsy you can use Viola

[tired sleet]

Cheryl is very good to support another tank

[toxic cobalt]

Koga Viola Leaf in one team does three

[swift swan]

gotta love the capitalization there

[tired sleet]

Replace Leaf with Cheryl

Wait this is a stall team—

[toxic cobalt]

Skyla Hop Clay does another 3 in one

[swift swan]

Janine then

though Viola becomes redundant other than for trap

[tired sleet]

That doubles up on types tho

[toxic cobalt]

Janine is only regular poison

Then you can run Roxanne and Acerola with Giovanni or Cyrus to get all the types

[swift swan]

hmmm true, but venom drench debuffs are nice

depends on the stage though

[swift swan]

if it's special-oriented, this is fine

[toxic cobalt]

If it's a special stage viola debuffs, if it's physical Skyla def buffs The perfect team

But yes just do special orientated haha

[marble orbit]

im sorry for the complete lack in units

[swift swan]

those are legit good units

idk why you're having problems

leaf, hilbert, falkner, aaron are amazing supports

[toxic cobalt]

Why are we filtering for water?

[marble orbit]

maybe cause i put all 5*s and don't use 3 and 4...

[toxic cobalt]

Oh i missed water entirely

[swift swan]

because water isn't used yet

[swift swan]

3 and 4*s are great too

[marble orbit]

yup i tried Roxanne

[toxic cobalt]

Okay I'm sticking with Koga / Leaf / Viola

[marble orbit]

she did great in my grass CS run

[toxic cobalt]

Bertha is obviously the ground choice.

[swift swan]

you're not filtering for steel?

anyway, Hop/Solgaleo/Skyla for steel-weak, easy win

[marble orbit]

oh god i forgot steel

[toxic cobalt]

Roxanne is obviously the rock choice. Acerola is obviously the ghost choice. Hilbert is the obvious water choice.

Hop is the obvious steel choice

Skyla for flying as Nov repeats

[swift swan]

since this is hard mode, I'm sure SC Ingo can clear Blue just fine

[toxic cobalt]

I missed SC Ingo okay no viola

Electric or Ghost: Koga, Janine, Leaf
Ghost or Psychic: Roxanne, Giovanni, Acerola
Steel: Hop, Skyla, Bertha
Bug: SC Ingo, Hilbert

[fiery canopy]

aight r3, lorelei or agatha

[swift swan]

it barely matters. just remember R3 prevents your quadqueue so pay attention to your team

[fiery canopy]

kk
having trouble deciding on a team...

[toxic cobalt]

Do you have teams planned for the remaining fights?

[versed jetty]

Any ideas for Poison Stall Teams? Doing this for the Champion.

[swift swan]

aurochs deploy your clear

nevermind I'll do it myself

#1011675077764456519 message

[versed jetty]

I don't have Wormadam.

[zealous karma]

Do you have Janine

[rotund lagoon]

Uh, did you only glance at one team? ^^;

[versed jetty]

Nevermind, I'm not doing Poison Stall.

[swift swan]

viola is a good substitute

[versed jetty]

Please, can you use Pokémon Names?

[swift swan]

masquerain

[versed jetty]

Thanks.

I'm Italian, that's why I'm asking.

[swift swan]

you can use the quick pair command in #bot-zone next time you're confused

[cinder summit]

Viola & Masquerain

Acquisition:

Main Story

Alternates:

None

[versed jetty]

Beat the Champion in MM. Using 2150 points for a total of 8000 points.
Parameters:
Strength 1, Physical Dmg Reduction 8, Gradual Healing at Start, Strength 2, Strength 3, Gauge Max -2, Max HP 8, Strength 6. (wasn't going to reach 8500 anyways)
Team: Venusaur 6EX 2, Volcarona 3, Blastoise 6EX 1.

[swift swan]

you didn't pick up the damage reduction shields?

[trail smelt]

Yeah those are free 50+50 points

[old orchid]

also no Standard Damage Reduction 8?

[waxen parrot]

I dont have a good electric striker/tech, and stalling lorelei doesnt seem to be working out. Any tips ?

[swift swan]

hmmm, no Volkner at the very least?

Volkner + Hau (must be 3/5 for his nuke though)

[waxen parrot]

Both arent built

[old orchid]

2/5 Hau already has Inertia

[toxic cobalt]

Volkner can be paired with almost any electric striker or tech. The key is to make sure you don't use electric terrain until right before sync

Eg. Hau or Potionchu

[primal field]

How difficult is alola Cs compared to others?

[old orchid]

a bit difficult than Unova and significantly more difficult than Kanto

its easier than Hoenn, Sinnoh and Kalos

[primal field]

Ok, thks

[waxen parrot]

My problem with that is, my attacker has always died after sync, or at least half hp (so never survived post 2 syncs

Oneshot with sync is way more often

[toxic cobalt]

The general idea is that you never let the opponent sync

Are you triple queueing?

[waxen parrot]

Ofc

[toxic cobalt]

What teams have you tried?

It's strange they get to two syncs

[waxen parrot]

I dont remember and i've replaced the team

Iirc its elesa (rotom), archie and somone else

[toxic cobalt]

If that isn't working something is off with your queueing

Have you tried Archie Roxanne and Volkner?

[waxen parrot]

Like i said, i dont have volkner built

[swift swan]

it doesn't matter, he doesn't need grids or anything

leveling up to 120 should be cheap too. maybe even 100 is enough if this is hard mode

[crystal notch]

Bugsy Mayziken ssa cynthia

Do they want any params

On blue

R1?

Or would sc steven be better vs mayziken

[old orchid]

SC Steven with Bugsy

[crystal notch]

Ok

Round parameter? Don't care at all?

Just don't take phys down?

[old orchid]

Blue mostly uses special moves

so you can take phys down to benefit Bugsy

[crystal notch]

Did you mean special down

Isn't bugsy phys

[old orchid]

i thought you were talking about physical down round parameter which means boosting physical moves

[crystal notch]

Ah

I was thinking phys down as in reduced physical damage

[crystal notch]

That would have been worded as def down wouldn't it

But yea can see the confusion

My fault

Wait does bugsy want his grid

[old orchid]

he wants Blind Spot at least

[crystal notch]

Wait does bugsy want his grid

Wait

No one is boosting his damage

As in

No one is boosting his atk

Swap ssa ex cynthia

[old orchid]

use an offensive support then

[crystal notch]

For someone like blue?

Yea

Time to ex blue jg

Also the special damage reduction field is causing quad queue issue

[swift swan]

do a turn denial or use a unit with adrenaline

or well, pick a different round parameter

[crystal notch]

Yea

Understood

[fiery canopy]

not reallyyyy but i am going to use special ingo + emmet against blue

[toxic cobalt]

That sounds like an easy fight

[fiery canopy]

lol
i gotta clear the other two elite four b4 i can do that tho

[crystal notch]

...blue...turns out to not be able to handle sp atk from his champion counterpart

poison stall time, I guess

oof

[swift swan]

Which Blue

[crystal notch]

Ss blue

[swift swan]

Rip, one of the best tanks in the game too

Which set of params?

Mine loves to get 4-shotted but that's because I pick masochist presync all the time

[crystal notch]

Pre type on sync

Which is why I was like ????

I now wonder if EXing him was a good idea

[swift swan]

Tank friendly?

[crystal notch]

Ended up poison stalling though

Yeah tank friendly

[swift swan]

Always has been

[swift swan]

Hmm now that's odd

[crystal notch]

Hmm, he gets atk up through team shout 9 right?

So I guess not too bad

But yea I was like "what on earth"

[swift swan]

Could he have been hit by psychic too often

[crystal notch]

Yeah actually

[swift swan]

That's the only reason I can think of

Bad RNG

[swift swan]

You're not going to rely on him for attack/sp attack buffing, it's unreliable

[crystal notch]

What does he have that makes EXing him good? I want to know

So I don't feel too sad

[swift swan]

He's a great EX candidate because

1. EX support
2. Gains more bulk from mega stats
3. Teamwide endurance via Safety Net

4. Adrenaline at 2/5 to get you 2 syncs without quadqueue (because Arceus knows how hard it is to quadqueue with him thanks to Team Shout ruining it)

[crystal notch]

Ah yeah team shout also ruined my quad queue

But yea he died before I could even sync a second time even with endurance

Which devastated me

How was I theoretically supposed to play sc steven - bugsy - ss blue?

For future knowledge

I already cleared the stage so I can no longer test out things

[swift swan]

Well for one thing

Drop SS Blue

His attack buffing is too slow for Bugsy

[old orchid]

anyone that can tank and buff +6 atk is fine

since Bugsy has sure crit

[swift swan]

Seems like Bugsy has some speed multipliers but sc steven already handles that

[old orchid]

yeah Ramming Speed

[swift swan]

So just any physical support. Preferably it can buff crit too so you can actually deal some damage outside of sync

[old orchid]

if they are low on orbs prioritise getting Blind Spot first

[swift swan]

Aaaand as always, the holy trinity of Hilbert, Sonia, Hop

[crystal notch]

Ah, yeah

[swift swan]

reset CS and beat the E4 again so you can test on blue

[crystal notch]

I was thinking to swap to either Sonia or Hilbert

But the devastation of losing blue before second sync

Just caught up to me

[swift swan]

Both great options if 3/5

[crystal notch]

Also yeah both are 1/5

[swift swan]

Eh, if you lost Blue before second sync then Hilbert won't stand much chance

[crystal notch]

So

[crystal notch]

Exactly

[swift swan]

You just got bad RNG, is all

Sometimes that's what ruins our runs

Presync especially

[swift swan]

Also remember Sonia might ruin your quadqueue too if team swift reaction procs

Hop will also ruin quadqueue if freevenge procs, smh all these tanks

[old orchid]

seems like you chose too many attack and strength params

[swift swan]

Me, picking full attack params after watching SS Kris got oneshot: I don't know what you're talking about

[crystal notch]

hmm, really? I did use +1 strength instead of +2 hp due to bugsy

[swift swan]

The better choice

[crystal notch]

but otherwise I stuck to the presets

[old orchid]

you can reset if Blue spams Focus Blast too much

[crystal notch]

Noted

Felt a bit sad

After building bugsy

And then whoops

Ended up poison stalling

He's still useful in future CS right

[old orchid]

yeah

[junior crown]

or as I said, if you have low resources, focus on saving when you really need it

if you already have a team builded, then use it, if not try poison stalling to save resources

We have LG for example that may need more pairs builded

Or for some extreme battle you'll need to build specific pairs to clear

so better save resources for those times if you don't really need to build them for CS

[crystal notch]

yeah noted

don't worry, I'm not low on resources

just a bit sad that I didn't get to actually play a new tool successfully

[full mesa]

But now you know how he works.

Next week you'll get it right.

[lunar meadow]

@white bramble

This week is electric/psychic/ghost/steel/bug.

Who are your damage dealers of those 5 types?

And what is your goal?
Completing it? 4200 clear? Or higher?

[white bramble]

just giovanni

[modern warren]

How bout your other types

[lunar meadow]

No Alolan Raichu?

[brave halo]

Would this be bad for rock in week 2? I know I have Ex Olivia but I'm already using Bertha in a ground team for the same week

[lunar meadow]

If you are only going for 2k points, I know 3/5 EX Lycanroc-Olivia and Palossand can work

Personally, I've never used those three units. I know Landorus does some good stuff but I feel like regirock is pretty useless and rampardos is suicidal

[brave halo]

It's just regular hard mode

[manic kiln]

it's hard mode anything should work Olivia without sand can still do 2k5 so

[brave halo]

I wish I could get to lodge raihan faster for the sand part, seeing as a lot of Olivia's stuff is catered to sand

[manic kiln]

he only has sand on entry, still something but not doing much

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t you have Acerola?

There’s also Bertha if you have her.

[brave halo]

Bertha is already in the ground team for the same week

And acerola only has level 140 invested in her right now

[manic kiln]

This is just an example, hardmode offtype no sand and not even max atk so you should be fine with anyone

acerola is just a flinch bot and sand setter, even lv100 no grid is fine

[brave halo]

Can I ask during this? Did you sync with support or her?

[manic kiln]

just her

2nd sync, on type she should kill with 1st sync

[brave halo]

Cause as it has been stated i believe, I only have ssmorty ex

Well ok sycamore but still

[manic kiln]

see i only had 1 sync buff in the pic

kukui is just a -def bot so he doesn't need anything else, makes up for no sand

but acerola is better if you can use her

[white bramble]

Nope

[brave halo]

That better then?

[manic kiln]

yeah it's ok

atk speed and crit max for olivia + sand

[lunar meadow]

I don't have a single unit over level 140.

You don't need anything over 125, really

[brave halo]

Ngl naturally I would've ran Bertha, but I couldn't keep her out of ground since she helps naomi, who I've been using for ground recently

[lunar meadow]

Go do the story mode, Jesus Christ 😅

You are missing a ton of viable units and gems if you haven't finished.

[brave halo]

My issue now is deciding how to go about the tactics for the naomi team

[manic kiln]

bertha tanking is fine, sabrina is not a good tank

[trail smelt]

Naomi needs sand right? Seems Bertha is fine

[brave halo]

She's mainly there for tm

And healing

Funny enough, I forgot I already used the team once during this month's cs

[trail smelt]

Wait why are you making a Naomi team?

[brave halo]

Second week ground stage

[manic kiln]

2nd Alola week planning that far ahead

[brave halo]

Yeah got really nothing else to do in game at the moment

[manic kiln]

learn how to do MM if you have the time, seriously your roster is capable of doing 2k5 you're just afraid to try because you think you lack ex units

doing 850 requires no effort at all

[brave halo]

I just want to wait a while more and rack up the ex's, if i want to get to 12k, I'm gonna need them

[manic kiln]

you're not even doing 4k5 stop thinking about 12k

[civic trellis]

Its going to take much longer to get EXs without MM

[manic kiln]

it's more about team building and getting used to the parameters and not relying on busted units and more copies or ex

[brave halo]

I'm willing to wait, I mean I went through the whole gear farming and not one issue on my end

[manic kiln]

taking standard dmg reduction, ally move gauge and physical/special dmg reduction is 700 points already and it's the same as doing hardmode

[civic trellis]

This discussion is probably not going anywhere

[paper summit]

as it always goes

[manic kiln]

yeah i know it's been said before

[paper summit]

you'd think someone would be open to actually learn the game, and listen to more experienced players, but here we are

[manic kiln]

there are a few stubborn cases in this channel, at least a few of them are getting better but this one

[bright furnace]

you helpers have been dealt with some stubborn folks lately

it's a thankless job sometimes

[manic kiln]

luckily no EBE this month, it's worse than CS sometimes

[paper summit]

you say that, but there is also a Gauntlet coming

[rotund lagoon]

Well I noticed the Alola pairs outside of gen pool are…….lackluster

[paper summit]

luckily it is on the easier side this time around

maybe they "learned" from the 2nd anniversary situation

[trail smelt]

On the one side I’m glad because yeah Alola needed a power boost but I didn’t wanna pull lol

But on the other side EBs are fun for me

[bright furnace]

no cress in LG yet

maybe dena will switch between special CS and LG every month

[civic trellis]

But anyway prob tank with bertha since I think A-Dugtrio uses physical moves

[rotund lagoon]

I can check

[manic kiln]

bertha buffs both def and under sand she's pretty tanky

[rotund lagoon]

All physical

[civic trellis]

Oops my msg sent late

[rotund lagoon]

I love Naomi, she is so fun to use

[brave halo]

I wish she could've gotten an ex

Ngl I bet the sandslash colors would look great on that dress too

A funny thing to note was I did use this team back in another of this month's cs without realizing it by the time i was building this, like I think I accidently erased it and rebuilt

Still not sure if I should swap out Sabrina but the tm's are helpful along with reflect

[grand trout]

There's no pasio stadium this may?

[trail smelt]

Sadly no

I think they’re have Gauntlet 1 month and then Pasio CS another

[white bramble]

My bad I forgot I completed the history im just missing one legendary arc

I defeated Bruno

[marble orbit]

Sorry, missed this out as i was busy. Will try with these pairs :D

[drifting sleet]

Anyone to be worried about this week?

[swift swan]

eh, no one in particular

[ruby bluff]

[keen silo]

maybe blue if your bug/offtyping isn't that good

[keen silo]

I hope this is the case for the guy who refused to ex sonia in extreme battles channel

Hopefully its better now

[swift swan]

well uh about that

[manic kiln]

They ended up exing sonia but not for the ebe

[sinful garden]

ill be real with you if you are good at teambuilding ex doesnt have a big impact

and this is kanto its the easiest cs

[fiery canopy]

blugh. team recs for lorelei?

[rotund lagoon]

Electric Weak?

You should have free options, and you know how to teambuild, right?

[fiery canopy]

I Do My Best
trying elesa + surge + misty (evasive up for elesa) rn buuuut it is not going well

[rotund lagoon]

Send me your electric types?

Also which Elesa?

~~I’m also hoping you’re not using base Surge… ~~

[swift swan]

it's bp surge, right...? right?

[rotund lagoon]

Omg same brain

[swift swan]

it applies to all 3 units ngl

which elesa, surge, and misty

because if it's base (Zebstrika, Electrode, Starmie), that's a bad team

[fiery canopy]

ss elesa and bp surge dw

[swift swan]

2nd question

why all supports

[fiery canopy]

oh fuck
HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THEY WERE ALL SUPPORTS LOL
blinded

[swift swan]

I mean Thunder DPS SS Elesa exists as a meme clear but that's about it

[rotund lagoon]

Can we see your Electric types, please?

[fiery canopy]

kk

crying

[old orchid]

Do you have a 4* strike candy rn?

If yes, feed Hau

Level him up to lvl 120 as well

[brave halo]

I still can't just go diving on into mm without the ex support boosts, if anything it's just been bad luck that a lot of people suggest characters I haven't given a grid to yet, they will soon at least

[fiery canopy]

i dont Think so but ill check

[old orchid]

Aurochs has been doing non EX clears on MM for ages

#1011675077764456519

[fiery canopy]

oh hey i do!

[old orchid]

Please turn off ping next time

If you have enough candies to raise him to 3/5, do it

[fiery canopy]

oh sorry
kk!

[rotund lagoon]

Hau is good, you’ll be fine!!

[rotund lagoon]

If one of our mods has been doing non-EX clears on 12.5k, then you can too.

[fiery canopy]

doneeee ^_^
who goes with him?

[manic kiln]

crit/sp atk buffer + terrain

[brave halo]

I really just don't feel ready for it, I'll try eventually tho

[fiery canopy]

gotcha!

[civic trellis]

U dont have to do 2.5k, u can try 850

Its alot easier and there’s params u can choose that will make it only slightly harder at most

[fiery canopy]

shoot, i dont have any mons w electric terrain

[brave halo]

But that still doesn't reach enough for even getting spirit, that's not enough for me

[civic trellis]

Spirit is at 4200

[brave halo]

Well only 10 spirit, but that still feels like nothing for me

[fiery canopy]

hau + sselesa + bpsurge worked yay!

[junior crown]

wait are you on hard mode

or master?

[fiery canopy]

hard! but im starting to add extra parameters or whatever bc i unlocked master mode

lol costume submas + skyla fuckin CRUSHED blue

[swift swan]

850 per round should be very easy now with new parameters

[tired sleet]

If you want some , aiming for up to 7.5k may be a nice idea if you’re confident

Sometimes your teams with stronger units can handle many more points than your normal teams, so don’t feel obligated to meet certain milestones if you can go slightly above them for more rewards

[latent eagle]

Is there an order i should do the rounds/look out for this week?

[swift swan]

not much

just be careful R2 and R3 prevents you from quadqueueing

[tame gust]

Oh… I completely forgot that Elec Weak Loreli takes reduced physical damage regardless of parameters or the like.. But shouldn’t N/Zekrom be able to ignore that?

[swift swan]

Hm? Lorelei does nothing of the sort

[paper summit]

that's not true tho?

yeah, she doesn't have any damage mitigation other than just buffing defense and evasion

which crits will bypass

[tired sleet]

That’s aaron you’re thinking of

[paper summit]

and no, N can't ignore Sentry Entry x2 anyway

[tame gust]

Really? I just tried to fight her and it said she took reduced physical on the tips menu.. I guess my N’s just not strong enough to bust her down.

Party is EX Hilbert, 1/5 Zekrom, and Volkner.

[tired sleet]

Lorelei’s stage was designed after OG Elesa afaik? Check the tips for the stage

[tired sleet]

That’s physical shield, aka reflect

[paper summit]

that crits also bypass

[tame gust]

And crit should bypass it.

[tired sleet]

You’d already take the reflect param for every clear

[paper summit]

and N should be clearing her just fine if you sync with Hilbert, so yeah...

[tired sleet]

So it literally has 0 impact

[tame gust]

I might not be using the moves in the right order

[swift swan]

What's the team anyway

[swift swan]

Oh I just saw

This is pretty straightforward, no?

[paper summit]

very

[tame gust]

Yeah I shouldn’t be having issues on On Type Pre Sync but I.. actually I think I skipped an N TM was the problem

[paper summit]

it's a tried and true team, so

[tame gust]

Pilot Issue, I know

[swift swan]

I like to go TM -> bolt strike -> TM on N, so I can get two SEUPnext

My staple electric team before sst red took volkner's spot

[paper summit]

yes, send the edgy gym leader to oblivion, I hate his face

[tame gust]

Yeaaah I just realized I didn’t touch his TM.. and also, right when I should’ve gotten the kill she got the evasion boost and my bolt strike to kill pre sync and missed.

[paper summit]

his TM buffs accuracy so yeah... don't skip it

[swift swan]

Volkner raises AOE accuracy under terrain too

[tame gust]

Like I said, “Pilot Issue”. Then again I was doing the fight at like 3AM because I woke up for no reason.

[pseudo gulch]

do you guys have tips for off-typing with cynthia+garchomp (EX-ed, 4/5)? I've mainly been pairing her with Raihan+Flygon plus some support like Blastoise or Swanna; my main concerns are around who to EX with first (do I do the support and then garchomp? or do I only do garchomp?), plus if there's some support that works better with her that I'm not aware of.

I've been trying to kill pre-sync, but I'm always a bit on the damage..

[fiery rivet]

Support ex imo

[pseudo gulch]

also probably related: my flygon has headstart 1 and I use sandstorm propulsion, but IDK how to really take advantage of those to speed up my syncs since it makes my move queues no longer a multiple of 3

[fiery rivet]

Can show roster?

[pseudo gulch]

I can link the image from the tracker website; it's kinda long tho if that's ok

[fiery rivet]

U could use SS Brendan if u not using him for any other team

U have good roster

[pseudo gulch]

doesn't he debuff spdef tho

[fiery rivet]

Yea

Actually nvm

[pseudo gulch]

yeah i have no issues doing 12.5k i just want to use garchomp more

[fiery rivet]

Wait

Skyla quite good

[pseudo gulch]

i guess yeah, I could just try old reliable with her

[fiery rivet]

Cuz u have acces to ramming speed and she exes

Exed

[pseudo gulch]

oh true

on the note of propulsion stuff tho, is there a general guide on how queue-ing changes with those abilities

because I can understand doing sets of 3 moves but I tend to end up letting the AI queue up too fast when I wait for propulsion to trigger

[fiery rivet]

Um

[junior crown]

you can flinch with skyla

[fiery rivet]

Yea

[junior crown]

and that'll help with sync faster

[pseudo gulch]

raihan+skyla would make my flinches more reliable yeah

[junior crown]

if you have head start + propulsion + 1 finch you already get 1 round to sync earlier

[pseudo gulch]

ah ok

[junior crown]

I don't know how much of a increse if Cynthia Mega

but I'd sync with skyla first then cynthia, if skyla is EX

[pseudo gulch]

I might need to re-grid cynthia, since I have the node that sets sand on sync + 2 entry skills

but if I only sync once with cynthia, that stuff gets a lot less valuable huh

[junior crown]

well, not that much, because you'll sync with a supp ex bonus

depends on if you'll be able to kill with her sync or if you need another move after it

[pseudo gulch]

like, I don't actually have ramming speed LOL

[fiery rivet]

She is gonna do a lot of dmg since it’s is 4/5 so u should be able to clear easily

Even if u make a few mistakes

[junior crown]

if you're not using ramming speed maybe it's better to bring another supp

[fiery rivet]

Yea