#Champion Stadium

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austere quest
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No lmao

summer flare
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The Kalos one

austere quest
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It’s not the hardest MM we have

summer flare
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Might be doable

sonic blaze
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problem is people have too varied boxes, so some struggle

summer flare
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Boxes?

sonic blaze
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like characters

summer flare
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Oh

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So, for fighting, I have a perfect sir fetch'd

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Iirc it's 5/5 150 EX

rotund lagoon
sonic blaze
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for example i don't have much in the room of bug/fairy, so i tend to have to think abit more when trying 2k and offtyping

summer flare
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For steel, I either have 5/5 ex grimsley or 1/5 raihan

sonic blaze
summer flare
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For bug, 1/5 150 ex alder

lunar meadow
# austere quest It’s not the hardest MM we have

I found the wikstrom fight this week to be the hardest fight I've seen in years.

Because I do mono-type clears, fighting only has CynCario for good supports, Sdef buffers, and zone setters... So without her I had to give up on mono on-type.

(Mono dragons had no issues)

sonic blaze
summer flare
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Yes

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There's a fairy stage, right?

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For that, I have the shiny Galarian rapidash, but I don't have zones

sonic blaze
summer flare
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Forgot the name of the trainer

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I could do with any crit buffer + Lucian, perhaps

austere quest
summer flare
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Ontyping water could be hard

austere quest
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I didn’t struggle because SSTR

sonic blaze
austere quest
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But it looks annoying

summer flare
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Since I'm on spotlight

austere quest
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With the Steel Zone setting

summer flare
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When it comes to water damage dealers

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Could try Hilbert, Kris and a random rain setter

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Like winona

sonic blaze
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so you should be able to do it

summer flare
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I kinda wanna pull on a limited water damage dealer, at some point

sonic blaze
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def bring a rain setter as well

formal vigil
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Kris hilbert and winnona was the team I used to 2k malva cleared pretty easily

summer flare
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But since half anni is closing up

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And I already have plans on pulling this month

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Since crobat 3 solves my poison issues sorta permanently

sonic blaze
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so u can definitely wait before pulling

frosty axle
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ye drasna down to stall

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now champion and done my F2P run

summer flare
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I have 96k gems

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Even if they do 3 desirable banners, I should be fine, shouldn't I?

prime warren
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Ontype kalos done CyrusSweat
My bug type rly need improvement

frosty axle
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I am surprised I got so far 😅

sonic blaze
prime warren
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If I get to unlock charging inflicting in colress grid I can do it with less worries

sonic blaze
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but if you're unlucky those 96k gems could not amount to too much units lol , so with that mentality think what's best what u need

summer flare
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I don't have a limited poison pair

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Which means my poison ceiling is pretty low

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Colress is also THE fave

sonic blaze
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like Kris is a very good water unit, so if i was struggling with ontype for other 5 types.... i'd prolly leave water to last

prime warren
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Poison ceiling is low for anyone without firis

sonic blaze
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unless they brought some crazy utility

lunar meadow
sonic blaze
summer flare
prime warren
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I am talking abt now

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Crobat isn't out yet

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Unless you mean koga

frosty axle
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lets hope once I do this F2P I will get lots of views

prime warren
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Koga ex when Dena

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I don't want to roll cringe poison dps meta

summer flare
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I don't remember her name

sonic blaze
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like for new years

frosty axle
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once I finish champion I will work on the video

summer flare
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I haven't played through kalos

sonic blaze
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there were 5 master sync pairs

summer flare
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So, I have a mental list of unsolved types, as in

formal vigil
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It's Emma her name is mentioned in the kalos va story

summer flare
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Could use new pairs

sonic blaze
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and depending on luck and wanting them that could've been rough... cause u could only guarantee almost 3

summer flare
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Fighting is sorta fine, though I miss SSA Cynthia a bit

sonic blaze
summer flare
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I need alder to go 3/5 before I say anything about his power level

prime warren
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I hope next month is skip
Then I can roll for ssdiantha dupes SophoKEK

frosty axle
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wish me good luck on Diantha

prime warren
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I am so broke on tech candies

sonic blaze
prime warren
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I actually have only ssdiantha to candy

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But she needs atleast 3/5 for me and only 1 candy on hand rn

sonic blaze
prime warren
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I often don't roll for units when I don't have candies on hand if they need em

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I only have 8 limited techs coz of that

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While more than 15 strikers SophoKEK

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Since they are fine at 1/5

sonic blaze
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and just like that my list expands ;v

prime warren
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Alder is great now

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He's worth candy if SShilbert didn't exist

sonic blaze
prime warren
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5/5

sonic blaze
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yeah, fk that shit lol

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(at least for me)

prime warren
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He gets easier setup and big boi damage

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It's worth if you care abt volcarona

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But why raise volcarona

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When Chad genesect exist

sonic blaze
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very steep price though...

sonic blaze
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i was a simp for hilda so F on victini xD

prime warren
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Tbh alder looks fine at 1/5 for CS to me atleast.....

nocturne pawn
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steel weak diantha just needs a status unit right

prime warren
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I use cblue as hyperbeam unit and they both are similar range

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Yes

nocturne pawn
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so raihanx2 and serena should work

prime warren
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I'll roll genesect if it drops on dead week

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Can't rly afford to go for him actively when I have 3/5 escavalier

sonic blaze
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and hyper beam misses as well xD

prime warren
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Oh yea
He gets pinpoint entry

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Just 2/5 him for that

sonic blaze
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but let's c, tech units i need to candy... latias, grimsnarl, shaymin, marnie, darkrai, blaziken, shiny diancie.

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tech candies in storage, 1

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xd

prime warren
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Darkrai Defo doesn't need candies

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Diancie too if you have good rock dps

summer flare
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Ever since her buff

sonic blaze
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i'm thinking of 3/5 candying diantha, just seeing if i get lucky on another daily paid pull lol

summer flare
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I kinda wanna see her at 5/5 just because she makes sandstorm smoother to use

sonic blaze
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so i don't have to commit 2 candies

summer flare
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Oh

prime warren
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Cynthia is pretty capped at 3/5 itself

summer flare
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I candied her due to the way I got her

prime warren
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4/5 and 5/5 are just qol if your roster is shit for some reason

summer flare
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5/5 is mostly QoL I'd like to have

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She's strong enough at 3/5

sonic blaze
prime warren
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I might candy her just to make TLraihan usable

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Coz 5/5 cynthia has good synergy with him

summer flare
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I got her during the Raihan banner

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Or wait, no

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It was the N one

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I got N 3/5, Raihan and Marnie 1/5 and then used the pity for cynthia

frosty axle
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Diantha ended up being super quick and easy lol

summer flare
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Which is why I've candied her

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To 3/5

prime warren
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I actually want to 5/5 zekrom as well
But I have both rats and elesa got buffed

summer flare
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Same

prime warren
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They are giving less and less reason to use him

summer flare
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For now I wanna 3/5 ex ash

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While he doesn't need it and likely never will

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I just wanna go over the top

sonic blaze
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both my red and ash are at 2/5 xD cause while i do love the chars, their kits are very broken and others could use candies in my roster

prime warren
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I actually like 3/5 ash for BV speedrun

sonic blaze
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so i decided not to lol.

summer flare
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But first I need to give alder 3/5

prime warren
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For CS it's Defo overkill

latent eagle
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This team isn’t working for R2 pre-sync VolknerDed

summer flare
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So I have a strong bug representative

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I don't like base alder that much

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Though SS Kris helped him quite a bit

sonic blaze
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only old champ pokefair i have 5/5 is lance 😂 , back when i didn't think much about my roster and just fed him candies cause dena was more generous with them ;v

summer flare
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I don't have lance

prime warren
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My highest is 4/5 SSred
Waiting for his expansion

summer flare
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I'm considering to get him once I have the chance

prime warren
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Can't wait for him to get to T0 back

prime warren
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Coz red shouldn't be below T0

summer flare
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I mean

sonic blaze
summer flare
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Snorlax would also need a bump

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To go up to t0

prime warren
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Redlax is fine

sonic blaze
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grid has a stupid amount of +25, but 0 multipliers so the sync sucks lol.

prime warren
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Already T0 unit

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Closest they can give is headstart

summer flare
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Isn't redlax T1?

prime warren
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That's on sparks list

summer flare
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What makes it t0, then

latent eagle
nocturne pawn
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bro the side got a fucking triple paralyze with discharge on wikstrom 💀💀💀💀💀💀

prime warren
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Coz he's still better utility

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Than stuff on top

summer flare
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SS Kris is otherworldly in utility

rotund lagoon
prime warren
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Psure ropa's list has him at T0

summer flare
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And ccalem has zone and rain

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Which is a bit absurd

nocturne pawn
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this is so bullshit

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like this is r4 and all but the chances of a triple paralyze proc is disgustingly low

rotund lagoon
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You’re doing Wikstrom R4???

nocturne pawn
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why

rotund lagoon
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No wonder you’re having trouble lmao

sonic blaze
nocturne pawn
rotund lagoon
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He’s not recommended for R4, it says in the pins.

sonic blaze
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redlax i wish gave more defenses/speed, that's my only complain... BUT the fact that he reduces so much sync cd and that is somewhat spammable

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i think is very good

rotund lagoon
frosty axle
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hopefully my F2P run will be uploaded in next 2 hours

sand karma
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What did you find for wik

sonic blaze
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as for speed, i like when i can "spam" strong attacks from my teammates

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but with red i got to be mindful of the gauges sometimes

rotund lagoon
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My point is C Red is for teams where you wipe the enemy quickly.

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Not for prolonging it.

frosty axle
sonic blaze
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that sync cd thing makes you nuke the enemy if u can lol

sonic blaze
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was just saying my overall opinion of the unit , nothing more

frosty axle
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least these hard CS make me think of something different to win

sand karma
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It's the best part

verbal karma
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Okay, I tried with Hop/Mina/Sycamore

nocturne pawn
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ok whatever i did it

sonic blaze
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i think in legendary arenas :3

nocturne pawn
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fuck wikstrom goddamn thats annoying

verbal karma
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and guess what: it didn't work out 😦

sonic blaze
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using old units that i saw as "pretty useless" work out well is kinda cool.

frosty axle
sonic blaze
umbral plaza
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I’m doing something wrong I’m surviving her sync but she one shots

rotund lagoon
frosty axle
verbal karma
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I am actually running out of options at this point

umbral plaza
verbal karma
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if not even Hop/Mina/Sycamore works out, then what does?!

rotund lagoon
tribal agate
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Hop / Mina / Sycamore works

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but it's very rng

umbral plaza
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Sycamore doesn’t heal much to survive

frosty axle
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so far only see one F2P run on youtube search but with sleep

sonic blaze
umbral plaza
tribal agate
verbal karma
frosty axle
verbal karma
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and Mina STILL gets insta-killed by Drasna's sync

nocturne pawn
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bro auroras crit raihan with icy wind and did 789 dmg 💀

tribal agate
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you shouldn't get to Drasna's sync, that's pmuch guaranteed death

nocturne pawn
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this is actually silly

tribal agate
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if your fairies can't tackle it, then you'll have to resort to powerful off type or reduce points

nocturne pawn
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you can survive it

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its just

frosty axle
nocturne pawn
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very not recommended

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and probably reliant on rng

rotund lagoon
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Let’s not suggest that… T~T

frosty axle
tribal agate
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i think Annie meant the sleep stall that's high end stuff

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you can post-sync with debuffs and defenses

frosty axle
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well both

rotund lagoon
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Nov’s video is pretty good, I legit do not see how you can fail.

frosty axle
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RNG has a way to make you fail no matter how good a team is

rotund lagoon
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Oh I mean other than RNG, but yes lmao

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Idk they could be giving up too easily, high af expectations.

frosty axle
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but then again like my stall run rng was in my favour with potion refreshes

verbal karma
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and reducing points is only a limited option

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because I still wanna get a total of 9500 points

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that's, like, the absolute requirement that is not allowed to budge even one millimeter

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that means that if I reduce the points in R4 to 1.5k, R5 is absolutely required to be the full 2k

rotund lagoon
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What’s wrong with 2k? Anyone can do it tbh

tribal agate
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you can follow the linked video at the top for a full F2P Drasna 2k

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if you don't have the roster, the aptitude or patience to follow on these videos then your sole option is to reduce points and take the loss this time.

verbal karma
sonic blaze
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that video was cool, didn't think granbull's sync would do some juicy damage lol

tribal agate
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Granbull is amazing

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underrated

rotund lagoon
rotund lagoon
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#1073655215363985498

verbal karma
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it's why I always ask for videos to be uploaded onto Discord directly

sonic blaze
# rotund lagoon I can link you to my test runs.

do so!, tbh i have not used too much f2p units outside utility, so seeing something like granbull be usefull is abit of an eye opener lol, especially since i lack shit like bug/fairy dps xd.

tribal agate
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i think you should seriously consider troubleshooting why one of the top 5 most used apps on the internet doesn't work properly for you

rotund lagoon
nocturne pawn
tribal agate
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don't think that's related, location matters for certain videos, not the app/site itself
it takes less data also than playing pmex if you're not on wifi
could be a bad install or hardware issue

rotund lagoon
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I agree.

nocturne pawn
rotund lagoon
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YT is an extremely accessible site

verbal karma
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I should mention: Youtube itself works on my browser, it's the videos that fail to load for some reasons

frosty axle
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so didnt want to do the same thing as others

tribal agate
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definitely try reinstalling the app if it's on mobile, could be some broken files

sonic blaze
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it doesn't just randomly not load

keen jasper
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Quite similar damage to my Nessa's sync a while ago

tribal agate
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Night i think you're aware this isn't a flex thread but a help thread

keen jasper
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Hmmmmm, fine

verbal karma
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Oh yeah, I can't seem to get good damage with Mina's sync...

grand steppe
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that didn't crit

mellow linden
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Sync didn’t crit

verbal karma
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ugh

tribal agate
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did you sync with Syca first?

grand steppe
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:dogpile:

verbal karma
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I did sync with Syca first

tribal agate
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i guess you did yeah mb i'm just blind

keen jasper
verbal karma
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...man, I really don't wanna deal with sync crit RNG, tho

mellow linden
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It’s 80% chance

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Not a huge deal

sonic blaze
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yeah, it ain't too bad

nocturne pawn
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you have to deal with it because a lot of units dont have soften up

verbal karma
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well, guess what: the 20% chance of it not critting...happened to me 5 times in a row

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...is it really 20% at this point?

mellow linden
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Welcome to Pokemon

grand steppe
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Oh I've been watching diantha not crit, like 50 times in a row now. So I'm taking a break.

sonic blaze
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that means the 6th time is prolly the charm

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xD

tribal agate
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since you don't have access to the video here is the checkpoint

mellow linden
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Where Scald burns every other use

tribal agate
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you should have a Moonblast prep'd to finish off mid after Mina syncs

nocturne pawn
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ive had anni n not crit like 10 times in a row before with sync and thought my game was bugged

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it just happens

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also dont do r5 diantha with the r4 parameter

verbal karma
nocturne pawn
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60% flinch is a menace to society

verbal karma
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...that's kinda a requirement, though

mellow linden
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Moonblast finishes the job

tribal agate
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Sycamore kills Drasna

sonic blaze
mellow linden
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In the vid

verbal karma
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oh

tribal agate
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Sycamore has +3 crit and +6 spatk with Fairy Power

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don't underestimate his dmg, he's clearing the sides

verbal karma
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the one thing I was missing

keen jasper
sonic blaze
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mina just does a heavy chunk ;v

verbal karma
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okay, I gotta try again

tribal agate
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you got it

nocturne pawn
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sycamore is known for immortality with horn leech but fairy power 5 makes him decent for fairy damage too

keen jasper
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JK

nocturne pawn
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bro dont

keen jasper
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Ok, GL to you @verbal karma

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And may your syncs crit everytime

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Serious

verbal karma
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...okay, Mina's sync critted this time, but now the problem was that Drasna dodged the last Play Rough before the second sync

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and that's probably why Sycamore's Moonblast didn't kill

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...fucking hell, that means I also have to deal with dodge RNG, too 😦

tribal agate
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lemme just send the video on discord

verbal karma
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nonono

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no need for that

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I at least know what to do

tribal agate
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also yeah sadly there's some rng involved but that's what happens when we budget a lot

verbal karma
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I just need to obtain the "do"

keen jasper
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Why not use Mina's TM to copy Drasna's accuracy buff?

tribal agate
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but there's a certain gratification in being able to tackle the litteral latest content with those kind of pairs

verbal karma
tribal agate
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i don't see it either

keen jasper
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Oh

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Must've mistaken it

sonic blaze
keen jasper
verbal karma
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yes

keen jasper
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And is her theme skill upgraded?

verbal karma
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the fairy one? yeah

keen jasper
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Fairy mainly

tribal agate
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Mina's rotation is : charm > charm > charm > charm > play rough > play rough > sync

Sycamore is : TM > moonblast > moonblast/horn depending on state > sync > horn > moonblast > moonblast

Hop just spams TM with one MPR and potion as needed or free gauge

keen jasper
tribal agate
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ah yes mb it's fierce entry

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edited

umbral plaza
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ALMOST THERE

keen jasper
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Yeah, Fierce Entry, so Terrify will be mitigated but 3 Charms will be enough to fully lower Drasna's attack

tribal agate
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that's a super weird team

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idk why i ask i litteraly see the fairy weak i'm tired

keen jasper
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So that it will be easier to read

verbal karma
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oh my FUCKING god!

umbral plaza
verbal karma
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I finally manage to defeat Drasna, and what happens next?

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fucking Rock Slide

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flinches my ENTIRE party

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ALL AT ONCE

keen jasper
tribal agate
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wdym Drasna is too fastRosaThink

keen jasper
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Double flinch chance by R4

tribal agate
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she can't queue more than you

keen jasper
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But it rarely happens to me

tribal agate
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that's a complete non issue

verbal karma
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at this point, I am tempted to replace all the lucky skills with unflappable JUST so I don't have to worry about RNG related to THAT as well

grand steppe
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If you have a passive skill like Revenge boost trigger, the enemy will queue their move immediately.

keen jasper
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My Calem is 1/5 and ungridded

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CCalem that is

tribal agate
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the speed down is unnecessary

umbral plaza
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her attacks like thunderstorms to me lmao

sonic blaze
tribal agate
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yeah don't get rid of CS2

keen jasper
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Yeah, just weaken the sides with Sycamore

tribal agate
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the flinches is unlucky considering the % chance but it gets better

umbral plaza
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1/5 ss wally is a beast regretting not exing him

tribal agate
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SS Wally at 1/5 is mainly there for zone support
so you'd have far more success putting a Mina or other Fairy you have there to benefit the zone and rebuff rather than relying on him

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with very questionable supports

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then again it's close-ish but it's really unorthodox imo, dunno if you're on 2k

keen jasper
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SS Wally, the very first pokefair with 5/5 grids, also the very first one I went all out to 5/5

verbal karma
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oh, just my luck, now Hop's TM MPR just refuses to trigger, no matter what

tribal agate
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the game do be like that sometime lol

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imagine LG players who streak at 149

keen jasper
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Imagine F2P EB strat

tribal agate
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keep going i'm sure it'll be ok

manic kiln
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you can try this if you run out of options @verbal karma , the 1st one was good rng (got flinched 1-2 times), 2nd bad rng (flinched 3+ times) and still clear comfortably. no cs2 no crit luck SophoKEK
Kali grid for xdef mpr and stat leech. Lillie grid for satisfied snarl, trap n sync and double down, lucky skill mind games or def crush, mind games better for lillie sync and def crush better for sycamore heal. you probaby don't have that many 1* purple cookies so just get def crush
with both sp atk and atk debuff they can try to flinch all they want because their dmg will drop significantly, other than dragon rush spam under zone which is very rare they can't kill you
sync with sycamore first, then lillie everytime after, she can heal with her sync and help sycamore survive. this was very close to a stall run SophoKEK

dim marsh
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I need a tip, I'm doing a 15K run and I have no fairy strikers

tribal agate
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that's a very classy fairy team

verbal karma
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honestly, I gotta agree

keen jasper
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Pick your poison

dim marsh
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They can't do it tho, right?

tribal agate
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15k?

dim marsh
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Yea I find it fun

verbal karma
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...I am kinda tempted to try Lost's team instead...but I already got so far with the Mina team...I'm not sure if I am ready to lose it all again with a new team...

dim marsh
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I know it's useless

tribal agate
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without fairy strikers and without knowing your roster, i'm afraid we can't do much

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you'll have to rely on hyper carries that can off type

manic kiln
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3k?, better off type CourtneyBruh

verbal karma
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...okay, what are all the grids, Lost?

dim marsh
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Ik, my best carries are probably SS Gio, Cynthia(Renegade), SSteven, Anni Red

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And stuff like Gladion or Sidney that probably won't do much

manic kiln
tribal agate
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probably give the params too if you can

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since it's somewhat fairy stall? that's so funny

keen jasper
manic kiln
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no need to crit

tribal agate
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who needs crit when you have synchro heal

manic kiln
prime warren
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+1 sycamore crit BarryPogChamp

manic kiln
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you can replace kali with like sonia tho

prime warren
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So do it after expansion

manic kiln
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but i think they need for diantha

prime warren
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Wait a sec.....why no offtype?

manic kiln
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i just do mono team so i used this

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they failed to off type so

dim marsh
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Is SSN worth candying 2/5 to 3/5?

prime warren
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I remember they have shit like zygarde

nocturne pawn
tribal agate
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i doubt SSN is gonna be able to off type 3k frankly
i can't say for certain, but i don't think it's a good investment

nocturne pawn
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somehow

prime warren
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Wut PrycePain

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If they can't make zygarde work
I wonder how that sycamore team would

nocturne pawn
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idk either lol

manic kiln
verbal karma
# manic kiln

...okay, removing Adrenaline on Sycamore is absolutely not an option, sorry...

manic kiln
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this is post sync

rotund lagoon
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You really think you should use that bias of all things?

manic kiln
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sycamore grid is not that important

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...oh...

manic kiln
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use whatever you want

tribal agate
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time to practice quad queue regardless Dogkek

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I thought this was pre-sync

manic kiln
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did you not see 4-5 sync buffs

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I somehow missed that part

manic kiln
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i already said this was a very braindead and low rng and effort clear

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no fancy pair no quadque no crit

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if you can quadqueue it's good, more heal

peak stirrup
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Both physical and special seemed to be weak vs Siebold.
But also my bug types are bad.

sand karma
peak stirrup
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I used Alder

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He’s only 1/5. Had to bring a speed buffer plus a MGA mon

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Gauge was brutal

sand karma
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Anything if it works

hot shadow
peak stirrup
umbral plaza
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as I said 1/5 ss Wally is a beast
need ex him asap (also cookie is super powered 3)
thanks to ss morty’s ex shield and healthy healing endurance speed down joltik elesa what bought me time
it was fun

hot shadow
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Drasna bested

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but now Diantha is a problem

frosty axle
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Solgaleo takes Diantha down quickly

manic kiln
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manic kiln
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kek

frosty axle
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Diantha was the easiest for me surprised people struggled

manic kiln
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good for u

gilded stream
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Got all 18 medals. Can I reset to play MM? Or should I wait for next weekly reset?

manic kiln
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you can reset rn

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anyway, I am currently trying to do R5 Diantha with BP Surge/SS Elesa/Gloria using the R3 setting

mellow linden
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Use Sonia instead of either SS Elesa or BP Surge

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Depending on whether you want the more reliable Paralysis or the Sync accel

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Since iirc your Sonia is 3/5, she’s way better at setting up Gloria’s buffs

rotund lagoon
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I literally told you earlier to use her.

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and even if I were to use the R4 setting, that would still be only 60%

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and that's not reliable enough for me either

mellow linden
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So you could use her in place of SS Elesa and take advantage of Gloria’s Sync accel to negate the need for quadqueue

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...but I need SS Elesa

mellow linden
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For?

rotund lagoon
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…no you don’t.

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because I need both Gloria's Sync accel AND SS Elesa's sync accel

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at the same time

mellow linden
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No you don’t

rotund lagoon
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You seriously, truly, unbelievably, do not.

mellow linden
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You need only 1 Sync accel source to counteract being unable to quadqueue

candid juniper
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Why would you need both.

rotund lagoon
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Gloria’s sync accel is just fine.

mellow linden
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Not quadqueueing puts you at 1 move behind if you’re aiming to Sync twice before the opponent Syncs once. Literally any form of Sync accel will set you back on track

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maybe even get 3 syncs in

rotund lagoon
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Do you see where Cobalt is coming from?

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You’re trying to do 10x more than necessary.

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Stick to the necessities instead of doing wild strategies that make no sense.

mellow linden
# verbal karma maybe even get 3 syncs in

You don’t need to Sync 3 times before the opponent Syncs, and the amount of MP Refreshes you’d need to be able to do that anyways is at a level where it surprises me that you’d even consider it

frosty axle
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Here is my F2P run #1072581173546586194 message

mellow linden
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Yeah, Poison stall for Drasna seems about right

rotund lagoon
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Lol nice

frosty axle
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thanks and ye as long as you live its easy enough

rotund lagoon
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...so wait, BP Surge/Sonia/Gloria then?

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I...guess I'll just try that then

latent eagle
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collapses onto the floor

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...nope

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BP Surge/Gloria/Sonia isn't working out either

mellow linden
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What specifically is going wrong?

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Actually, quick question: is it you that has Classic Elesa, or am I thinking of someone else?

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I actually do have Classic Elesa!

mellow linden
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And you’re bothering with BP Surge why?

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I use BP Surge for guaranteed paralysis

mellow linden
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Classic Elesa instead of BP Surge

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Y’know, Paralyzes the entire opposing team in 1 turn?

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mellow linden
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Debuffs all stats except accuracy/evasion/crit when she hits a Paralyzed opponent?

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oh, well, I won't be able to use the debuffs

mellow linden
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Has built-in Sync accel so you can save Gloria’s Trainer Move for the sure crit?

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but mass para is good enough for me

mellow linden
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and then have to give the enemies more HP? no thanks

mellow linden
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Trust me, Classic Elesa’s debuffs will more than make up for it

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If there is one thing you can trust me on, it is that I know how to use Classic Elesa in CS

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so...is it bad that Classic Elesa is only 1/5?

mellow linden
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No, her kit is basically complete at 1/5

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ah, good

mellow linden
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3/5 is some nice extras, but nothing vital

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alright, understood

rotund lagoon
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ah, good

paper summit
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I don't refuse to listen to every advice given to me

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only specific ones

paper summit
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Why?

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I'm seriously asking here

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because some of the stuff suggested is stuff I tried myself and didn't work

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"Max HP ^2" in particular is a setting that doesn't work for me, like, 80% of the time

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it just makes the enemy entirely too bulky, sadly...

mellow linden
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I’m just gonna say that turning off No Stat Reductions not working in one situation, does not mean that it will fail to work in every situation

rotund lagoon
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You need to adjust to the match.

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And learn how each parameter affects it.

mellow linden
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Especially when the pair in question you’re turning it off for basically makes the fight lol-tier when she can apply her debuffs

rotund lagoon
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This game wants you to learn it and when you’re so focused on us making clears for you, it diverts your own brain away to learn.

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This is how my brain is when I follow walkthroughs, I can actually prove this.

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When I am stuck in a game and go “I’m pulling up a walkthrough.” I follow the thing and I instantly go braindead.

mellow linden
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Gimme a sec, I’m gonna reset CS and go do a Gloria/Sonia/Classic Elesa run. Is your Sonia EX or nah?

rotund lagoon
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okay, I tried Gloria/Classic Elesa/Sonia now, with the setting Cobalt suggested

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sadly, I can't get to kill Diantha before she does her sync

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which means it's not working out

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hell, Gloria's sync attack, even when it crits, just hits like wet paper

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I genuily get more damage from just Gloria's regular Behemoth Blade at that point

mellow linden
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Does Diantha KO with her Sync?

verbal karma
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yes

mellow linden
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Is your Sonia EX? I’m about to test the team myself

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nope, Sonia is not EX

mellow linden
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Got it

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No Syncing with my Sonia then

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I do have a suggestion though

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Try Syncing with Classic Elesa

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Instead of Gloria

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...wait, my Classic Elesa isn't EX'd yet either

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what do I gain from that?

mellow linden
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More Sync Base Power

umbral plaza
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what’s your teams for siebold

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Gloria's sync has 220 base power

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while Classic Elesa's sync has 200 base power

rotund lagoon
paper summit
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Gloria doesn't have reliable multipliers, CElesa does, so the base BP difference isn't a big deal

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Guess you have no clue how tech syncs work

umbral plaza
rotund lagoon
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Checking for fun is different than being like “Hey can you help me with this?”

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So lemme know if it is help you need.

mellow linden
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Gloria’s Sync modifier won’t come into play until after Diantha Syncs

umbral plaza
rotund lagoon
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Oh Gaming Eevee posted a F2P run.

mellow linden
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Plus Classic Elesa can Sync with Electric Terrain active

rotund lagoon
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#1072581173546586194 message

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I’M A DOOFUS I SHOULD JUST LINK THE VID

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zealous karma
verbal karma
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damn

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syncing with Classic Elesa first somehow gives me worse results

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...maybe this team just doesn't work for me 😦

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...actually, I only need 9.5k, not the full 10k...maybe I can remove some settings after all

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yeah, I'll just remove "Max HP^2" and "Strength ^2" outright...not like I'll need them anyway

umbral plaza
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also thanks for the patience poma community is warm and kind teehee AAAElio

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FUCK

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almost won

dim marsh
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In the end, I off-typed 3K with Red let's go

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sadly, there's still one big problem left: Classic Elesa dies entirely too fast to AoE attacks

zealous karma
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I am fighting Diantha

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and Sonia is not EX'd

rotund lagoon
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They do not have Sonia EX

zealous karma
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I see

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Well I think gloria should still be fine

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if sonia is 3/5

rotund lagoon
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Can you not EX Sonia anyway?

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nope

zealous karma
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My gloria might be ex but jasmine did more for mein this fight

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I forgot diantha had healthy advantage but the stage was still quite easy for Jasmine + Gloria

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Would not recommend if Jasmine is not ex

zealous karma
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okay, got better paralysis RNG this time

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Diantha defeated with at least 9.7k points

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which is good enough for me

zealous karma
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isnt nuzzle guranteed paralysis

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that's not what I meant

zealous karma
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oh

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what I meant is the enemy getting their move denied

zealous karma
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I see oops

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congrats on the clearSquirtleThumbsUp

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thanks

zealous karma
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when my phone is charged I will attempt a F2P kalos

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it seems some people are struggling and would prefer a more available option for others

dim marsh
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alright, now that I have finally EX'd a Sinnoh support sync pair, it's time to pick a Hoenn support sync pair that would be worth EX-ing...this is gonna be tough...

rough sigil
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Finished my 10K run!

mellow linden
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I'm like 90% sure it's doable, but it's difficult and a moot point now, so I'm calling it here

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It'd be 100% doable with EX Sonia

rough sigil
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?

zealous karma
mellow linden
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Clear I was testing before

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Don't worry about it

paper summit
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#1010274591601598555

zealous karma
mellow linden
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I was testing a clear for someone, don't worry about it lol

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I whooped Diantha this morning with EX Sonia + EX Steven + (EX) Classic Elesa

zealous karma
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Classic Elesa rerun when Dena I am going to cry

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(preferably when I have gems)

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Sync accel strats my beloved

paper summit
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I cleared with Solgaleo as usual SophoKEK

zealous karma
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Soga ex when

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they alreasdy teased alola va

bright furnace
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solgaleo ex with more mc customization

rotund lagoon
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I DIDN’T REALIZE MM IS A SUPPORT COIN THIS MONTH, I AM SO CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO CANDY C CALEM WeezingLFG WeezingLFG WeezingLFG

mellow linden
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I have 2 Support candies' worth of coins rn thanks to that, am waiting for datamine before I decide how to use them

rotund lagoon
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I have been waiting to candy Calem for two months, I just need this so bad DPitHyperCry

dusty path
dusty path
sonic blaze
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abit of effort hahaha, and yeah, just isn't as quick ;v, but i still really like it

dusty path
tribal agate
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yes fair enough, i was thinking solely for that one video to watch at the time

dusty path
dusty path
peak stirrup
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Man Siebold doesn’t die
I’d really not like to revert to frogs or rat but Alder/Bugsy (Scyther)/Skyla got smacked and it wasn’t close

nocturne pawn
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he has like 30k hp with pre sync params and gradual healing

peak stirrup
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He heals almost as much as I was doing with hyper beam

nocturne pawn
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wait wut

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alder should be doing more than that

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did you pick hp up parameters

peak stirrup
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He was doing about 3k

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Healing about 2k

nocturne pawn
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that sounds low

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for hyper beam

peak stirrup
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I was +6 SpAtk +3 crit

nocturne pawn
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hm

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well try debuffing spdef

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you have lucian?

peak stirrup
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No
He’s the only sinnoh e4 that’s evaded me

nocturne pawn
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very unfortunate

swift swan
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What's bugscy for?

nocturne pawn
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if i had to guess mga

peak stirrup
nocturne pawn
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though with skyla you shouldnt really struggle with gauge so he could be redundant

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and hes a physical supporter

peak stirrup
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Alder maxes his own SpAtk
Doesn’t need someone to do that for him

swift swan
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Get sp def debuffer

peak stirrup
swift swan
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Mind games koga then

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Or just another damage dealer

nocturne pawn
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if i had ss morty i couldve used burgh

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but no

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330 scout points and he didnt show up

peak stirrup
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I have both those

trail smelt
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I used LDawn/Alder/Aaron and crushed Siebold comfortably. I even played dumb and got sync’d and they lived with HP to spare lol

nocturne pawn
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lodge dawn

trail smelt
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Lodge

nocturne pawn
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wormadam

peak stirrup
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Oh

hot shadow
peak stirrup
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Didn’t even kill Starmie

hot shadow
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2k params?

peak stirrup
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Yeah presync

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But he synced anyway

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Wasn’t close

trail smelt
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EX Skyla?

peak stirrup
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I could try endlessly until I get MPR on breathtaking

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Both Skyla and SS Elesa

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Pretty much every team is subway bros or rats

zealous karma
zealous karma
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Beat round one hop bruno and Korrina are goated

bright furnace
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F2P 10k?

zealous karma
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Ye lel

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This is a bit rough

paper summit
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The fact you didn't reset the first time of no crit...

bright furnace
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Good luck

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Lol

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Hope you have enough battery life

bright furnace
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Wow Cyrus Vs Malva isn’t any better

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This is pain!

paper summit
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skill issue

swift swan
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what

paper summit
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But for real, how are you struggling? That makes no sense

swift swan
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Rain boosted Cyrus failing water-weak? CyrusSweat

paper summit
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Are you still refusing to reset if no crit? Grid Sharp Entry ffs

swift swan
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I always have Sharp Entry on him lol

zealous karma
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I don’t grid it on him because what if this video reaches someone who doesn’t have Pb Cyrus

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It’s why I refuse to use SwiMisty or CGio

swift swan
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pre-powerboost cyrus should still be fine

zealous karma
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He hits 9K but can’t one shot sides

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I’ve never had worse crit focus luck

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Im@going until their sync when j crit

prime warren
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Just bring crit support at this point

zealous karma
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There’s like 4 F2P crit buffers who can also tank special Atk 🐴

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I bring a crit buffer and suddenly Winona can’t flinch

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Love aoe moves ❤️

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Im going to have to waste SSB on this

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I had to waste SSB for a water stage

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And it was still difficult

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Going to die irl

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Im going to have to use a lodge unit :/

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I’m screaming and crying and it’s not even 3K!

dusty hamlet
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this cs is pretty fun acttually im very surprised

prime warren
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Use more PUs for Mina

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Ez

zealous karma
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Im not 20/20’ing my mina 💀

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I already hade to make her 5*

candid juniper
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I have a novel idea for you

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What if you 20/20 Mina?

grand steppe
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pray team shout doesn't activate and you can quad queue

prime warren
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But 20/20 Mina can clear elesachocolate

grand steppe
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I cleared with Hop & Sycamore, and my mina was 4*

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is this one of your 3ks?

prime warren
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Well he's probs saving hop for someone else

zealous karma
prime warren
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That doesn't look like 3k

zealous karma
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That salamance might as well have hostile environment because it feels like it

zealous karma
prime warren
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I also got destroyed by waterfall flinch in my SCemmet run

swift swan
prime warren
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But that's using hop

zealous karma
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Im getting very unlucky

prime warren
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And hop has real dps

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Unlike surge

swift swan
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my Hop was busy healing and buffing most turns

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he only got to use behemoth bash once

prime warren
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That 1 behemoth bash hits harder than anything bp surge pulls off SophoKEK

zealous karma
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Also discord and apple suck

swift swan
zealous karma
grand steppe
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I mean Surge is almost Hop, just no potions. Did syca need potion to live?

zealous karma
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No he doesn’t

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This is why I can’t clear the stage btw

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If the videos want to send

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39 MB hype love my phone

grand steppe
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I delete stuff as I record, I don't keep the failures.

zealous karma
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Why is it

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Uploading

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The full video

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Bdkakdkssksksks

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If he didn’t get fully paralyzed the turn before

grand steppe
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You need to save as new clip.
if you share a clip you trimmed down, it will upload the whole video

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Apple stores the entire video on your phone (because of the Revert Option)

zealous karma
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It didn’t work like that before

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Crying

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Im going to cry

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I accidentally closed the app

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I’ve never had worse luck

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In my life

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What’re the odds of getting paralyzed and flinched this game is very funny

grand steppe
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33% iirc

zealous karma
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Paraflinch hype

swift swan
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what are the odds of paralysis on 3 opponents again?

grand steppe
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How much strength?

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I only used +7 in my clears.

prime warren
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If it's 30% chance on opponent side, then it's 90% chance to proc
If it's 90% chance on our side then it's 9% chance to proc
True rng moment

zealous karma
grand steppe
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-_-

zealous karma
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I inflict pain on myself

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This is just like smash ultimate

prime warren
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Then inflict more self pain

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20/20 Mina

grand steppe
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this is the equivalent of tying bricks to your thumbs and trying to play Smash

zealous karma
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I ran out of Pu’s

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Because I EX’d lusamine for the all Ex CS run which I forgot to post

grand steppe
swift swan
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Mina needs as little bulk as possible

grand steppe
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Discharge is 15% of applying paralyze to 3 targets.
20% to 2 targets.
30% to 1 target.

zealous karma
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I almost won

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I ALMOSY GOT OT WOOOOOO

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Didn’t even need to quad queue

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Doable!

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Mina missed two play roughs in a row so I got ah gottem ggs’d

grand steppe
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AOE Penalty applies to the secondary effects of moves that apply a status condition.
AOE Penatly DOES NOT apply to secondary effects of moves that debuff a stat.

zealous karma
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Wow premium fairy units are really dumb in comparison to F2P

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Til

swift swan
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first time? SophoKEK

grand steppe
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Calem do you have 1/5 Diantha?

zealous karma
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When you get flinched by an enemy and no passive procks is it the same as quad queueing to require another move

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I do

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Calem

swift swan
grand steppe
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Is she EX?

swift swan
zealous karma
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Yes

grand steppe
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okay, do the stage without 5* supports. :3

zealous karma
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Without interesting

prime warren
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I used my diantha with redlax for drasna

zealous karma
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Lucky for me I have head start on my Roxanne

grand steppe
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Without limited units. BP Lodge are okay

zealous karma
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Time for double propulsion procks

grand steppe
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But no spotlights.

zealous karma
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Idk who the lodge units are

prime warren
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Can Roxanne tank enuff hits from drasna?

grand steppe
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She has Endure.

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But it will only last enough for pre-sync typically.

prime warren
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Well 1/5 Diantha can presync but need support ex

grand steppe
dusty path
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Yeah TLDawn is a good special support

zealous karma
grand steppe
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I asked if 1/5.

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Ungrid everything in 2/5.

zealous karma
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Kk

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She gets 2 sync toles at 2/5 I didn’t know that

grand steppe
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Also, no flinches please.

nocturne pawn
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god this sucked

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i hate auroras with a burning passion

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dusty path
grand steppe
grand steppe
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You'd have to be really lucky to get -3 in a single cycle.

dusty path
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Ah still 3 move cycles

grand steppe
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and even then, it'd be the 3rd cycle

dusty path
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I mean... even getting one lets you sync earlier and have more gauge for after the sync

grand steppe
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True, which is useful for quad

dusty path
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Yea

swift swan
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aaaand the diantha tests continue

grand steppe
zealous karma
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I forgot skyla had staggering

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So o had to reste

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And I was one mb from winning

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But this isn’t that bad

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I know the point sages is trying to make but my diantha is 150 Ex lel

grand steppe
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skyla and who was 3rd

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Are you doing pre-sync btw?

zealous karma
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Im running my pre sync params against a post sync fight lel

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But it’s still easy

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Im still using Ldawn

paper summit
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You are using Strength 12 again, aren't you? WEEZing

prime warren
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Just use serena coz kalos ticket SophoKEK

zealous karma
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I memed at the end and still

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LDawn is funny she cleared the sides for diantha

minor blaze
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hi

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do you think i can go through with the units i have?

dusty path
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Hard mode? Yeah, you'll get it done

minor blaze
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just regular i think, i want to get champion spirit

zealous karma
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I think it’ll be a bit tough

bright furnace
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Bruh I thought you had 1/5 diantha not 2/5

zealous karma
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Once you get your 18 types complete I’d just aim for 4K as to it new and it’s comfier

minor blaze
dusty path
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As always, and everyone has to, you might need to try again, reset a battle a few times, but yeah everyone has to at some point

zealous karma
bright furnace
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No wonder I’m fainting all the time lol

minor blaze
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or im just weak

zealous karma
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Oh I did

minor blaze
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💀

zealous karma
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I candied diantha like yesterday lel

bright furnace
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My 1/5 diantha is like not staying alive

zealous karma
bright furnace
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I’m tempted to off type

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And yeet this drasna

zealous karma
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It doesn’t feel to bad maybe cause mine is ex

dusty path
bright furnace
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…I just ex my 1/5 diantha lol WEEZing

grand steppe
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EX adds the stats. But your kinda cheating with 2 supports. But I'm not gonna make you redo it.

zealous karma
minor blaze
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its just on a certain moment they will crit an 800, damage on my out of somewhere lmao

dusty path
zealous karma
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Or ssbrendan if he has double adrenaline

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Not adrenaline head start

bright furnace
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No vigil???

zealous karma
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I don’t run vigilance in my Brendan

dusty path
bright furnace
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Having a bad run with diantha, first LG now this PrycePain

minor blaze
zealous karma
# minor blaze its just on a certain moment they will crit an 800, damage on my out of somewher...

The teams I have been trying for CS and think will work for you, if you can grid them albeit which I doubt you can because early game orbs are rare but,
Wikstrom: Bruno Korrina Hop
Malva: Cyrus (no power boost) Rosa Winona (only Cyrus wants grid here)
Drasna: BPSurge (any crit buffer) Sycamore mina (or a SpDef debuffer for sycamore)
Bug: not sure yet
Steel: Masked Royal Slowgaleo a crit buffer

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Tempted to rock zone this drasna lol

dusty path
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Im not using Valerie ever lel

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Well for a double strike comp alongside diantha lel

minor blaze
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Azumarill is more useful than Valerie

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I ain’t ever using sylveon

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she is a support so granted BarryPogChamp

swift swan
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I mean, they do different stuffs

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Kali is a support. Valerie is meant to be a striker

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You get what I mean

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I do lel

swift swan
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Valerie tanked Latias in my Cerena/Valerie duo so she's valid! ValeriePlead

bright furnace
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Yeah but richu and I don’t go for streaks lol

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A lot of support units do offer crit buffs which are amazing early on and some lodge units are good

bright furnace
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Ok let’s try attempt 15 at 1/5 EX diantha

dusty path
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Wth

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My diantha artemps of sages challenging me took me one lel

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Or else I’m sending in the electric rodents

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HECK

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I forgot to exit the stage before I beat it with diantha

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Have to reset these painful F2P clears

minor blaze
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is there anyway to get champion spirit aside CS?

swift swan
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currently this is the only mode that gives it

bright furnace
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How many hours into F2P clear lol

swift swan
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we had neo champion stadium a few months back

minor blaze
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minor blaze
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maybe i will wait for better chances, i think i obviously lack in many manners

grand steppe
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I see

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And this is why strength 12 is the best params!

bright furnace
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I haven’t seen Sages use lel before MonkaScottie

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(Maybe not for an F2P clear)

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lel>>>>lol

swift swan
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smh Mina presynced Drasna with full offense just fine

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Lol

grand steppe
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I was mocking it.

prime warren
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Can I abuse shit like darach or ssblue

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I play a different game than everyone else

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How is drasna nkt debuffed in Spatk

prime warren
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I picked param for that

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For so 1 less str

dusty path
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Move level your SS Brendan, richu?

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Mines 3/5

bright furnace
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Ah 1/5

swift swan
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also make sure you understand basic gameplay. triple queue, buffing, quadqueue if possible, setting up your sync moves

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Ye to what November said

bright furnace
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Tempting

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3/5 ssbrendan is very worth I highly recommend 🦦

bright furnace
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I mean I got 3 support candies and 1 general one

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Lol

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Im not sure on which types or if you cleared CS at all last week so I didn’t exactly optimize on that front of you need 15 types I will recommend new teams

minor blaze
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Oh alr BlueYea

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Screw it let’s do it for the memes clear

swift swan
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I held out even longer for SS Morty

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But they both 3/5 now

swift swan
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# minor blaze im on my way there 🥲

A lot of new players including myself struggle with CS at first because it is a large jump in difficulty and I cannot imagine starting with Sinnoh/Kalos/Hoenn as they are very difficult you have all week so do not be afraid to take your time and enjoy the game You can always due the event battles or the legendary adventure battles to practice skills such as quad or even triple queuing as they tend to be on the easier side, with Kalos I do recommend taking time with it lel

prime warren
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Kalos feels noticably harder PrycePain

swift swan
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players starting out with Sinnoh/Hoenn/Kalos are built different

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I didn't have trouble with kalos this week but maybe next week it will kick my ass, who knows