Champion Stadium

[onyx ice]

With Regen i can't unless i use sync acceleration

[dark osprey]

Have to say that SSN's two turn move is really good in that way

[mellow linden]

It’s actually not doable in general without Sync accel

Sync countdown doesn’t decrease when using Fly until the attack portion has queued

Source: tried to do it with Palentine’s Elesa once

[onyx ice]

But without Regen i have the time to click the sync before the invulnerability expires

Just queue fly as the last action of the 3rd turn

[dark osprey]

Oh shoot. Pal Elesa seems fun to experiment with

[mellow linden]

What I’m saying is that the Fly attack will be queued before you can queue Sync

[dark osprey]

Just that super effective needed on fly to reduce sync countdown is a bummer

[mellow linden]

So the order will be Fly attack -> Sync

[onyx ice]

Without Regen is fly > sync > landing

[mellow linden]

I will go test this right now

[onyx ice]

I do this all the times

But the fly unit can't have regen

(don't know if stuffs like hail or healing passives will screw the things, but renegade Cynthia super preparation doesn't screws things up

[mellow linden]

I stand corrected, it’s doable

Tested on Latios

I must’ve been too slow or had something like Hail screwing it up when I tried the 1st time

[onyx ice]

Regen 100% screws it

Didn't tested weather

[mellow linden]

Turns out I’m simply blind and never noticed that Classic Giovanni gives the whole team Gradual Healing with his Trainer Move

[onyx ice]

Yes once i wanted to use him with NY lance, but i got screwed by Regen

I need sync countdown to counter Regen

[tired sleet]

You don’t even need adren if it’s the last move in a turn, or a sync itself

If you use a move after an ex support sync, that’ll be the 2nd move in a turn

[clever bronze]

How are my teams for this week?

Think I’m missing fighting psychic steel and fairy if anyone can confirm

[nocturne pawn]

you are

[proud axle]

The Malva team... Calem can't summon the rain on turn 1, which might be a problem if she opens with Flare Blitz

Sun+Flare Blitz + Charging Sun 5 = owwwwww

[nocturne pawn]

evasion hacks

ez

[clever bronze]

can you recommend me another team if i post my units?

[nocturne pawn]

do you have bertha

if so

[clever bronze]

yes

[nocturne pawn]

then drop nita from diantha and use ccalem there

and bertha for malva

since she has sand on entry

[proud axle]

The short answer is to just throw another weather unit in Janine's slot

[mellow linden]

Isn’t this for Hard Mode?

[nocturne pawn]

they want the type pieces im assuming

[proud axle]

It is, but I'm still kinda worried about Sun+FlareBlitz+ChargingSun5

[nocturne pawn]

its just easier to swap ccalem for bertha on malva

[proud axle]

That's kind of a lot

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

[nocturne pawn]

and then use ccalem over nita

[clever bronze]

it's a new cs

[proud axle]

Bertha's pretty sturdy so that plan could work too

[clever bronze]

[nocturne pawn]

i mean like

removing sun instantly makes malva pretty fangless

[clever bronze]

i have ingo

[nocturne pawn]

just use bertha imo

[clever bronze]

or is insta sand ut

[proud axle]

Does your Wikstrom team have enough speed...?

[clever bronze]

it

[nocturne pawn]

shes easier to just leave and forget

[nocturne pawn]

it has ssr cynthia its dead as hell anyway

[clever bronze]

idk giga

it's 1/5 ssrc

[nocturne pawn]

nah like

oh

mines 3/5

hmmm

i also had kiawe and mr so

yknow

maybe swap marley and gladion for drasna

shes the easiest e4 imo this rotation

so you shouldnt have any problems with her

[proud axle]

You might also get your Normal representation by swapping Jasmine/Ampharos out for Leaf/Eevee (and ASteven loves her sync), and putting someone else in Gladion's place

Mewtwo is Psychic, and that's one of your missing types...

[clever bronze]

diantha has close combat

flying weak

[proud axle]

Nita can tank

[clever bronze]

i read the pins

[nocturne pawn]

i think she only uses it after post sync

[proud axle]

It's in her regular moveset, she can open with it IIRC

But Nita can take that hit

Plus Leaf brings potions so Nita can take many hits

[proud axle]

Gio's got great base speed, so that might alleviate the issue

[clever bronze]

oh i forgot fire

[proud axle]

New problem I didn't see until now:
Aaron can't give him SpA...

Feck

[clever bronze]

should i save ss lusamine offtype for next week?

[proud axle]

Perhaps

[clever bronze]

i have 2/5 sc jasmine

[nocturne pawn]

honestly i think ur overthinking it a lot

[proud axle]

Normal is double-represented again with GioPersian here. Think think thonk...

[nocturne pawn]

like its only hard it wont be that bad

[clever bronze]

it's discussion

marley for drasna

sycamore with gio

[proud axle]

I guess "Gio doesn't have SpA" can be worked around by giving him the first sync for mega

[clever bronze]

he has ex now

[proud axle]

So he can Psystrike

Ah, that might be even better

Only worry is that Sycamore is Steel-weak

[clever bronze]

damn there's always a catch

[proud axle]

[clever bronze]

do you have a section in stage clears giga?

[proud axle]

Hm?

I only went for 10/18 types this week; I planned both this week and next week at once

I'll get my teamcomps, they're a little different than when I last posted them

(When I last posted them, I forgot to include a status condition source for the next week's Diantha fight)

[proud axle]

Still going back and forth between using Raihan (EX and stronger move) or Kimono Grimsley (not EX but can sync snipe) for Diantha 2

[clever bronze]

thanks for helping/playing along giga

[nocturne pawn]

kimono grimsley is fun but my god he was annoying to work with in this battle challenge

weak to ground had me going 💀

[proud axle]

Oof

[clever bronze]

i don't bother with his gamble

i use iron head

[nocturne pawn]

you should though

its not that difficult to use its just that the diantha battle challenge had sides with eq and aurorus had hyper voice

so there was a bunch of side sniping

and everyone had surging sand 💀

[proud axle]

Ah... an answer appears.
We can get your rock representation from Roxanne instead of Kukui, and put her on the team with Gio and Cynthia. She has teamwide +Speed and can supply SpA to Gio, and she's not weak to any of Wikstrom's team

[clever bronze]

🧠

and cronine with red

i have ss hilbert for bug weak next week

[proud axle]

I'm not sure how much help Red even needs against Siebold

[clever bronze]

none

[proud axle]

Only way to make the Siebold fight easier is to have, like, James instead of Cronine. For Poison Gas

So you can skip the GMax move

And just go straight to Volt Tackling

[clever bronze]

so i only need fighting, steel, and bug next week?

[proud axle]

Yup

[clever bronze]

after an hour i can finally play the game

[nocturne pawn]

which are also on type

i ended up leaving those types last by accident

but hey if it works it works

also beware siebold has sentry entry x2

[clever bronze]

what week?

bug week 2?

[nocturne pawn]

next week

[proud axle]

That's okay

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

but uh

[clever bronze]

i have ss hilbert

[proud axle]

They're using a special attacker

[nocturne pawn]

that

jesus fuck

240

[proud axle]

Yeeeahhhh

[clever bronze]

and ex lusamine

[proud axle]

It has the same attack power as his hecking sync

[clever bronze]

now what order should i battle them in?

i didn't look at params yets

[zealous karma]

Why is techno blast 240

[clever bronze]

it's a 4 bar move

balanced

[nocturne pawn]

bro that’s literally hyper beam tier

💀

[zealous karma]

All units are made equally

[nocturne pawn]

i mean its also an aoe

[clever bronze]

r1- malva
r2- wikstrom
r3- siebold
r4- drasna

any thoughts?

[nocturne pawn]

194 for an aoe is really good

[zealous karma]

This week is really easy so jt shouldnt matter

[zealous karma]

This one even has an accuracy penalty

[nocturne pawn]

i mean thats a hyper beam reskin aint it

[proud axle]

In the main series they would have the same attack power
Normal-type moves in PMEX tend to be assigned higher attack power than other equivalent moves to attempt to compensate for being unable to hit weakpoints
Type-shifted Hyper Beam is just fucking cheating

Normal-type attack power pity bonus except not actually Normal-type

[zealous karma]

Ik lel

I looked at other 4 bar moves and most have a tax cause of status wield effect or bp norma boost, why is techno 240

[tired sleet]

It has 100% acc, but it’s a normal move

[zealous karma]

Ohhhh

[proud axle]

Ah, so it is.

It's just... cheating the same way type-shift Hyper Beam does

[zealous karma]

I wasn’t even aware it was a normal type move

[proud axle]

Neither did I, though it makes complete sense that it is one

Its whole job is to type-shift, even in the main series

[tired sleet]

Curious, what type did you think it was

[zealous karma]

I just thought it was bug

I wasn’t even aware Sshilbert had the bug shift passive

[proud axle]

I don't think I've ever had Genesect before. So when I saw the bug Techno Blast in his banner's preview, I just sort of... assumed that was its default. So it'd get STAB with it.

Joke's on me, apparently it can't get STAB with Techno Blast

[old orchid]

smh cant change types with drives lol

[tired sleet]

If it was released in a more recent gen, it totally would actually change type

[old orchid]

[paper summit]

well, it was more a design decision

Rotom was created a generation before Genesect

granted for that guy it works a bit different

but there is also Arceus, who does change type depending on the plate, not only Judgment is affected

[tired sleet]

That’s fair

[proud axle]

(Do we pronounce its name Gene Sect or do we pronounce it like "Genesis" but with "sect" as the last syllable)

[tired sleet]

The 2nd one I’m pretty sure

I’ve watched the genesect movie; i don’t recall the prononciation being different from what i thought

[zealous karma]

I pronounce it Gen a sect

[tired sleet]

That’s basically the same as that 2nd option

Gen eh sect, Gen a sect, potato patato

[toxic cobalt]

I pronounce it genesect

[tired sleet]

So apparently it’s “Jen-uh-sekt”

||And this is all very relevant to the cs thread ||

That’s how i’ve always said it

[swift swan]

very relevant and important indeed

I need to know how to pronounce genesect, otherwise I'd refer to it as "fossil resurrected as mechatronic" to new players!

[paper summit]

Genesect is a paradox pokemon, confirmed

[proud axle]

I mean, it's in good company in this series

[paper summit]

tbh all fossil pokemon kind of fall into that category

[swift swan]

BW predicted the gen 9 gimmick!

[paper summit]

more like Gen 1

[proud axle]

Missingno. intensifies

[paper summit]

Huh? Missingno is a glitch, paradox pokemon are not that

[swift swan]

the whole SV sure is glitchy tho

[grand steppe]

I wonder if my whole life is a glitch, and I'm going to suddenly wake up-- Game Boy Color in hand -- surfing on the edge of Cinnabar Island, bouncing between TV channels: Fox Kids & Kids WB to catch both Digimon & Pokemon

[swift swan]

sages u ok bud

[keen silo]

I wonder if my whole life is a glitch and I wake up as a sync pair that supposedly counters the entire Hoenn Champion Stadium at once but whoever is controlling me doesn't have the slightest bit of games mechanics

[swift swan]

so SST Red

I recall seeing him solo an entire week of Hoenn CS

[keen silo]

I get pikachu? Cool

[queen ore]

Uhhh I'm checkin CSMM next week and THIS ONE SEEMS ANNOYING???

Siebold needs special bug

Wikstorm sets steel zone

Wow

[swift swan]

New CS regions generally have annoying gimmicks

[onyx ice]

The newer cs are harder than the earlier ones

[keen jasper]

It all started on Sinnoh CS

[main crow]

I can't wait once Paldea CS comes in 2 years and they started implementing rebuffs

Also CSMM tomorrow

[trail smelt]

Finish yo type clears and do Kalos CS MM for the first time

[full mesa]

SSTRed/Ash/SSACynthia-Bea/SSSteven/Twin Frogs. I think I'm covered.

For now and in general.

[proud axle]

I feel like Hoenn and Kalos are easier than Sinnoh

[trail smelt]

I mean saying that about Kalos is something haha

Since we haven’t experienced it yet

[sand karma]

It's very roster dependent
If you don't have counters to the gimmicks they can make life very hard
Esp newer players
Fairy is a sore spot in all cs

Sinnoh has steel weak Bertha that crushes Solgaleo with head start
And many wise entries

Hoenn has abhorrent bulk so it becomes really difficult for the niche types like ghost and fairy and it has that sentry entry steel Glacia

Kalos looks even more restrictive with weathers, zones, bulk, sentry entry rock weak malva, multiple guaranteed status, sentry entry bug weak siebold, and post sync nightmare Wikstrom who also happens to have ghost weakness

[old orchid]

I have a good roster and the hardest region not counting Kalos is Sinnoh, since it has many entry x2 stages, especially Bug weak Lucian since i dont have SCEmmet

[sand karma]

But atleast their hp is only around 17k

I got away with SSWally on wise entry Cynthia
(But it's SSWally) and most people here would agree it's doable with Mina

[spring fable]

will 1/5 calem, 3/5 wally and 2/5 bea be a good team for 2k Wikstrom?

[old orchid]

I dont have much trouble on Cynthia, its just the some CS stages limit my choice for dmg dealer. And some bs stages like Psychic weak Flint. The dude one shot SS Blue at full health

[formal vigil]

You will likely struggle with guage alot with that team replace wally with a speed buffer

[old orchid]

No, replace Calem with another tank

Preferly a mega support

[toxic cobalt]

It’s gonna be fun!

[formal vigil]

I think there talking about fighting wally

[old orchid]

Oh OG Wally

[spring fable]

yupp og wally

[old orchid]

Well my point is still good, just ignore the mega part

[mellow linden]

Bea + Hilbert + 2nd Support is probably gonna be the ideal team if you don't have SSA Cynthia

[spring fable]

hmm

skyla?

[sand karma]

PTSD
Resetting to avoid opener flare blitz

[spring fable]

my thought process for including calem was

1. atk and crit supp
2. can replace wikstrom's zone with dark zone
3. gauge supp? cause wally and bea drinks gauges

[formal vigil]

Also has the master passive and physical move up next

[old orchid]

Its CCalem??? Lmao

I thought you said OG Calem

[formal vigil]

[spring fable]

sorry

i didnt specify

[old orchid]

Just Calem

[spring fable]

hahah sorry

[old orchid]

Is he exed?

[spring fable]

yes

but 1/5

[old orchid]

he should tank well

[dark osprey]

Does 1/5 C Calem tank well on them new age CSs?

[old orchid]

he has good bulk, and a bit healing

if you are not confident can bring a defense buffer / a healer

[dark osprey]

Oh. Don't have him. Just curious but yeah the stats did seem good

[spring fable]

oh ty!

[sand karma]

Does wikky have field extension?

[dark osprey]

Guess not

[old orchid]

no

[dark osprey]

So quad queue ruined

[sand karma]

Won't CCalem changing zone be a bit too late then?

Since it's time based and not turn

[dark osprey]

Yeah true

Mainly need to tank those first 3 hits

Or just stall the zone I guess

[sand karma]

I feel if you're not clearing zone at the start you can just go ahead and tank it anyway
Maybe flinch centre

I'm planning Elio/Hilbert, Darach and Wally
Hopefully wik becomes as crippled as Bertha without her sand

He gets 30% from passive and the innate 50% from zone
So no way I'm keeping the zone

shudders

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Worst case, can even sleep cheese

[full mesa]

Or flinch.

Or sync countdown accel

[dark osprey]

Don't know if sync countdown accel helps that much if they're attacks are difficult to survive. Will have to see

[void wyvern]

Keep in mind that steel zone will only be active until about your first sync so flinch, sleep, and regen can stall out the timer.

[proud axle]

Damage Guard...
Which funnily is on the sync pair intended to counter the Steel Zone anyway

Could use another pair's Max Guard or something though

[dark osprey]

Fight steel with steel maybe with hop and healthy benefits

[sand karma]

His attack and spatk is a whopping 1301 like fire weak Glacia and psychic weak flint so

[mellow linden]

Oh, is that why Fighting weak Wikstrom is concerning without SSA Cynthia? Didn’t realize he had the potential to pull a “Flint’s 1k damage Fire Blast opener”

[paper summit]

Well, you can just reset, but yeah, it'll be funny to see tanks get one shot in another stage sometimes

[mellow linden]

I still remember when I tried to 2k Flint on a “special moves are boosted” round

Saw a 1.2k Fire Blast and decided to fight him later

[void wyvern]

Endurance with heals might be useful here to survive.

[dark osprey]

Yeah piers is also a decent option

Just hope for a few mprs though

[void wyvern]

Piers is risky in that you’ll need some sync accel otherwise queue will get ruined,

[dark osprey]

Oh. I don't use obstruct on piers. Just the unlimited endures

But with the hope of tm mprs

Just hope that he can take like 2 hits or so

Then 3 endures with TM is great

[rotund lagoon]

PSA, I’m gonna clear CS in a sec, so I won’t be able to do any more test teams for this week!

~~Hopefully no one asks last minute for help ~~

[paper summit]

Oh they will

But no reason to withhold your game

[rotund lagoon]

Lol

[zealous karma]

CS RESET

AT RESET

WOOOOOOOOOOO

[proud axle]

[tired sleet]

Darach’s defog could be nice for Wikstrom

[bright furnace]

I don’t even know what to expect at reset, but I’m excited about completing 10k Kalos for the first time

And I hate mondays lol

[rotund lagoon]

Oops, forgot Malva has , yet I took her down with SC Hilda anyway

[void wyvern]

Hilda! Hilda!

[bright furnace]

week 130 has rock weak malva again. double diancie time

[rotund lagoon]

Done!!

[zealous karma]

Wrong game

Wrong series

🐴

[tired sleet]

I didn’t forget and steamrolled them with subway bros anyway

[rotund lagoon]

Lol nice

[zealous karma]

Victors max move even after support Ex nuked the entire stage

No different than CSMm normally

[paper summit]

wdym even after support EX? Of course it's gonna be strong after that, why wouldn't it?

[zealous karma]

Sentry entry is lame happy ambiguous cresture

[paper summit]

Come back to us when you try the "funny" 3k memes

[zealous karma]

Will do

[paper summit]

Inb4 crying and screaming

[zealous karma]

I love doing both!

I have no confidence in bug or steel

I’m going to be forced into using burgh

Pain

[bright furnace]

sweats in gradual healing

[weak sleet]

So I was wondering if I could have some help to fix these to use more types for the medals this week?

Usually I use Snorlax for normal.

[rotund lagoon]

So SST Red and Zerena should be self sustaining, you can switch the teammates out.

Just plop any random peeps

Also Skyla is used twice??

[zealous karma]

For 3K I’m forced to take it lel

Can replace hilbert with hop

[weak sleet]

Yeah these are my default teams so that's definitely gotta change...

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t forget Rock has so you are gonna need to change that.

[mellow linden]

Even generally I’d recommend using a Support other than Skyla on the Flying team

[zealous karma]

Olivia will be fine

[weak sleet]

What is that?

[zealous karma]

It’s not 2K and Olivia has a good nuke

[mellow linden]

Sentry Entry x2

[zealous karma]

They have double defense

[rotund lagoon]

Sentry Entry X2, doubles their defense.

[mellow linden]

Defense is doubled

[weak sleet]

Oh

I was wondering what that meant, gross

[rotund lagoon]

This isn’t the first time…

[zealous karma]

Electric week Aaron has it if you’re familiar with him

[weak sleet]

He dies so fast to Pikachu power I barely even notice 😅

[zealous karma]

Back in my day the rats didn’t exist

[rotund lagoon]

SST Red has Piercing Blows.

[zealous karma]

That doesn’t ignore sentry entry

[rotund lagoon]

And Ash just takes care of it anyway lmao

[zealous karma]

X2

[rotund lagoon]

Oh fuck that’s right

He’s still OP af tho lol

But anyway, I think I count….7 types on those teams?

Could change things up for sure.

[bright furnace]

Richu with the grandpa Simpson impression, yelling at a cloud

[zealous karma]

Old 🐴

[bright furnace]

You don’t want to go for 15 types, Ariel?

[weak sleet]

Swapped the electric and dragon around a bit if those two can single clear it. But maybe Marley is better with ghost? I really don't know.

[weak sleet]

The more the better

[rotund lagoon]

Would you like to see what I used?

[weak sleet]

Yes please

[rotund lagoon]

Ofc you can change ones you do not have, but mine was mainly plopping a third teammate on top of damage dealers sufficed by one Support.

Also my SC Hilda was cause I forgot about T-T

[zealous karma]

Wow fighting wikstrom twice

[rotund lagoon]

It was fun :0

[weak sleet]

Is Cyrus a dragon or water type for the medal?

[paper summit]

Sync move

[rotund lagoon]

Dragon.

Categorized by sync.

[paper summit]

That's what counts

[weak sleet]

Why that team for dianthia? I'm curious how that works. I have everyone for that.

[rotund lagoon]

Flying requires a physical damage dealer. I didn’t feel like using Kahli (but damn Darach was my MVP) so I off typed. Also was a good excuse to get Grass and Fire in.

[weak sleet]

Oh that makes sense

Do I have to grid any of them?

[rotund lagoon]

Are there any you haven’t? I think Cyrus is the big one.

At the point I’m at, I’m trying to use all my

Also my SS Erika is stuck at 2/5

[weak sleet]

There's like only a few I haven't gridded

[rotund lagoon]

Are they damage dealers or the fillers?

The fillers don’t need to be gridded

[weak sleet]

Mostly garbage filler stuff like Brock and onix

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah don’t worry about the fillers for this.

[weak sleet]

Is this a bit better?

I'm not sure if I need to level anyone further.

[rotund lagoon]

Any reason you’re sticking with both SSR Cynthia and Anni Lillie? Or using Hilbert on that team?

[weak sleet]

Well speed for Hilbert

I'm not sure how else to do ghost damage honestly.

[rotund lagoon]

I think you should use either Anni Lillie or Cynthia, not both. Considering Hilbert is there, probably Cynthia.

[weak sleet]

She is strong enough to do it?

[rotund lagoon]

This is Hard Mode, I don’t think you should worry on that front

And no better way to find out than to test that team.

Also why not stick Will down? I use his Air Slash for Flinching Aegislash then Stored Power when he gets enough stats.

[weak sleet]

Oh I didn't think about the flinch

[rotund lagoon]

Do him instead of Lillie.

Will benefits from a lot of stat increases, which Hilbert provides.

[weak sleet]

Do I need to grid will? Apparently he is one of the few I have never gridded....

[rotund lagoon]

Lemme see…

Ah right, I did grid him.

I’ll send the whole thing

The main tiles I would worry about are Fortuitous and Aggravation 1 on Air Slash

[weak sleet]

Thanks, having too many orbs is a blessing sometimes 😅

Well I guess I can give this a try? Is there an order I need battle these people?

[rotund lagoon]

You saw my list, right? If you’re almost copying my teams, try that.

R3 isn’t as recommended for Wikstrom, but Will’s flinch should work just fine if you keep using it.

[weak sleet]

Oh right I didn't think about that

[rotund lagoon]

Yee

[weak sleet]

Okay I'll give this a try

[rotund lagoon]

[weak sleet]

Zygarde literally one shot sync killed everyone

[weak sleet]

Does this matter for Diantha?

[rotund lagoon]

Whichever you feel works (I did the top tho)

[weak sleet]

And like that all clear, although darach almost didn't make it.

Thanks!

[rotund lagoon]

Great!!

[dusty crater]

@grand steppe what do you mean by the quadqueue on Wikstrom?

[grand steppe]

Wikstrom sets when he enters the battle.
On the player's sync turn, it's going to end causing the AI to queue a move.

[dusty crater]

So it stops any type of quadqueueing on that turn if you have your sync?

[grand steppe]

Assuming, the player isn't utilizing sync countdown acceleration.

[proud axle]

It's the same problem as Quick Tempo, or Entry Phys/Special Shield

[tired sleet]

So i guess you really want to defog/override it

Or denial left side

[spring fable]

Wait defo removes zone?

*defog

[cinder summit]

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_FLYING:967452395820945438> Defog

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Clears the entire terrain and zone effects. Clears all field effects from the opponents' field of play. Lowers the target's evasiveness by 1 stat rank.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Darach & Staraptor
Lisia & Altaria

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[grand steppe]

Zones, Terrains, and things like Reflect, Light Screen, Crit Shield.
It doesn't affect Weather.

[spring fable]

Damn

If c calem’s zone override comes too late, should I switch to defog strat?

[old orchid]

yes

its safer

[rotund lagoon]

Aren’t the only Defoggers non-boosted?

[tired sleet]

Wdym boosted, this is CS? You mean off type?

[trail smelt]

Hoo hoo Kalos CS MM how exciting

[rigid flint]

Well Darach can kinda help

He does lower Atk

Tho ngl Atk and SpAtk debuffs don’t reduce damage much in CS

They still hit for like 200+ damage

[proud axle]

Next week's Wikstrom fight is also mixed anyway, so it won't even help against about half the enemy's offense

Right sidekick is full phys, left sidekick is full special, Wikstrom himself is mixed leaning special

It'd mostly just be "screw your Steel Zone and Gauge Accel"

And in Master Mode, also "Screw your Phys shield, Spec shield, and Crit shield"

[tired sleet]

Better than nothing; and he could also be good to indirectly buff the accuracy of focus blast/cross chop

While also generating gauge

[proud axle]

I do wonder, though...
Wikstrom's team is very loaded with 3gauge moves. Wikstrom himself has Quick Tempo and both sidekicks have Metallic Accel 2.
If we defog the accel field and the Steel Zone away, might they actually run out of gauges?

With grid, Darach can also nerf enemy Speed

I don't feel like being the one to try it, but I'm kinda curious if it might actually work.

[zealous karma]

Even with paralysis and -6 spd I’ve never seen the enemy struggle with gauge

Even if it’s with like 3-4 bar loves

Moves

[trail smelt]

Only one I ever see struggle is Tapu Bulu haha

[zealous karma]

But if you had -6 spd and paralysis on your units you’d be cryimg

[proud axle]

Wikstrom only has 65 speed

And he's weak to Speed Down

His sidekicks have 198 but they have zero Speed Down resistance

[zealous karma]

Watch them sto have good gauge

I will count on it

[proud axle]

Actually, KO denials are looking great now

They completely obliterate his gauge income

Wikstrom has three TMs, so it won't hold out forever. But still...

[trail smelt]

Speed down meta could work? Haha

[proud axle]

Gotta be difficult to stay light on his feet in all that heckin' platemail

[tired sleet]

So they want you to use Wally? ||(Or SC Diantha but I’m saying Wally)||

[proud axle]

In this case it's still The Case For Using Darach

Griddable Slo-Mo 9 and innate Ripple Effect

Seems you can only lower his speed to -1 with that (Feather Dance stops succeeding once the enemy is at -6Atk, and Wikstrom can regain 2Speed via X Speed All)

So maybe Wally it is?

[zealous karma]

Doesn’t slow Mo also work for his brave bord

It also works for defog

Unless it was specific to his feather dance which idt it was

Oh it is

I was thinking of weighed down

[swift swan]

hello CS chat

are you ready for the real Kalos CS

[devout sluice]

Another easy CS.

[zealous karma]

Idk why but seeing chat looked wrong for a second

Dang calling Kalos CS easy what roster do you have lel

[swift swan]

we haven't even experienced Kalos CSMM lol

on paper, some of them look nasty

buuut we'll see

[zealous karma]

Rising tide pecking order

(:

[tired sleet]

Pre syncing :)

[zealous karma]

I know the gaming eevee almost exclusively does post sync

I wonder how they’ll manager

Cause a lot of the Kalos staves have inmates

Ina res

Innates

[paper summit]

huh, didn't know that, tbh I don't pay too much attention to their clears, they tend to be... not ideal as a guide imo

[zealous karma]

I just like watching them lel

But ye I feel it’s for a certain kind of F2P player

With my F2P guides when I do them I try to make them like widely available to an extent

I might do one for Kalos depending on if I see many struggling with Kalos

[bright furnace]

Wish the F2P clears had a little more variety tbh

So I don’t really watch them

[zealous karma]

So I heard you like Barry

[bright furnace]

[mellow linden]

Who’s ready to bully Malva tomorrow?

[zealous karma]

What’s she weak too water?

[bright furnace]

I don’t even have a theme ready

[paper summit]

yes

[bright furnace]

Think of one now, richu

[zealous karma]

L + rip bozo + ratio + water is free

[mellow linden]

Winona + Sycamore + Cyrus, everyone has them

Unless you’re super unlucky regarding Winona

[paper summit]

the other types are not particularly great funny enough lol

[zealous karma]

Do a 3 in one, units with their secondary move as main DPS, along with having to match at least 3 theme skills per team, no more than 4 different regions

[paper summit]

but there are options for everything as usual

[zealous karma]

I usually just on type bug with Noland hop and bugsy

But sentry entry says lol

[paper summit]

pick Alder in 2 weeks, problem solved

[zealous karma]

So I will off type with Cyrus I think, and then I’ll use Barry for wayer

3K

I’ll use may and kris and hold the champs for a harder fight

There’s no way we don’t get perma fields this reset

[bright furnace]

Guess I’ll have to think about that while at work

[zealous karma]

I’ll use Lusamime and burgh because I really want CIris

[bright furnace]

That’s why you get alder in the summon itself duh

[paper summit]

another tech?

[zealous karma]

I just really like her debuffing + sync accel Utility lel

[zealous karma]

True true

I’m fine with these units remaining at 1/5

[bright furnace]

Fake Serena fan

[zealous karma]

Well not lucian or darach I’d prefer them at 3/5

[bright furnace]

Not 5/5

[zealous karma]

She can 3K off type she’s fine

[paper summit]

it's not a matter of her needing the upgrades...

[zealous karma]

I j ow

I’ll 5/5 her when I have 4 candies ready

[paper summit]

which will never happen lol

[bright furnace]

[zealous karma]

I was saving for SSDiantha but I had 3 already before I got her so lel

I love my 1/5 unit hitting 34K !

I really like this clear lel

Same with my recent dawn clear against Bruno 3K i think it showed off why I like using her so much

[bright furnace]

Think of the 5/5 damage

[paper summit]

rookie numbers

[zealous karma]

I think that’s like 87K

[paper summit]

I'm still mad I didn't get a screenshot of SS Wally hitting for 144k, flying pokemon ruined the chance

[zealous karma]

Pain

Wth!

[mellow linden]

Is it really that surprising?

[zealous karma]

Yes….

[mellow linden]

Iirc Champ Serena is the strongest Water nuke in the game

[zealous karma]

That’s not on type is my issue

[paper summit]

it's Power Play twice ffs

[mellow linden]

By a huge margin

[zealous karma]

Im@easily surpised

What’s more surprising is SCDiantha being the highest nuker without rebuff

I get she has 3 multipliers that are like the full multiplier but still lel

[prime warren]

500+ atk and +50 sync tile moment

[paper summit]

and the opposite of Rising Tide twice

and water rebuff of course

[proud axle]

Bug Siebold doesn't come back in two weeks, problem solved

[prime warren]

SCdiantha doesn't even stand chance when her field isn't reliable enuff for her to nuke in

[paper summit]

and you require Aura Cynthia, Serena can get rain even from an eggmon

[main crow]

[paper summit]

lol, that's gotta be the best lfg emote I've seen

[prime warren]

I hope siebold can be nuked down by escavalier

[paper summit]

possibly, Entry x2 passives make it so you are basically "off typing"

[prime warren]

OOF
Offtype escavalier is mediocre coz no zone

[paper summit]

huh? wdym no zone?

[prime warren]

Well atleast no other gimmick to look out

I don't got scingo

[zealous karma]

Do you have colress or Kukui?

[prime warren]

I use bugscyther and sonia with him

Thinking of using colress but he feels harder to slot than either of em

[main crow]

What's the move level of your SCEmmet?

[prime warren]

3/5

[zealous karma]

You should be fine

Just replace bugsy with colress and GGs

[main crow]

You got his other sync multipliers available, shouldn't be the hardest thing

[paper summit]

worst scenario, you off type with a special OP pair and call it a day, but I don't think that'll be the case

[prime warren]

So colress better

[paper summit]

I beat Lucian with Burgh, you'll be fine lol

[zealous karma]

Who do you use alongside burgh?

[paper summit]

I used to run him with SS Morty and PDawn

[tired sleet]

Probably like Lucian or smth

[paper summit]

yeah, Lucian is another good option

[tired sleet]

Ideally, SS Morty and a SpDef debuffer (or Bede/Anni Raihan, who do both), but he works with just SpDef debuffs in a pinch

[paper summit]

yeah, the alternative to Morty would be a support with the special defense drops and then a sun setter, if you want the full sync boost

[prime warren]

I actually prefer Lucian over paldawn for basically everything

The +1 spd is so good

Paldawn has suk gauge

[paper summit]

yeah, he offers speed on top of the other perks, that's nice

you trade that for slower debuffing tho, but still

[tired sleet]

Pal Dawn doesn’t debuff speed?

[paper summit]

I meant how fast they do it

bad phrasing

[prime warren]

She has charm and fake tears for debuffs

If only paldawn ripple effect was guaranteed

[tired sleet]

Lucian is great for setting up a strong 2nd sync, or if you want to debuff for a side denial

[prime warren]

I feel robbed whenever it misses to aoe

[proud axle]

Careful what you wish for; judging by her Lodge pair, they might try fixing this with On A Roll 1

[swift swan]

[trail smelt]

I’m not looking forward to Drasna honestly

[swift swan]

[trail smelt]

And I think I’m gonna have to try Steel a few times haha

[swift swan]

I still haven't made my teams lmao

[trail smelt]

Business as usual haha

[old orchid]

Me never planning my teams

[void wyvern]

Mood. Just throw random stuff and hope it works.

[main crow]

Just wing your team tbh

[trail smelt]

WOO LAST MINUTE PEOPLE! Almost time

[old orchid]

LETS GO

[keen jasper]

MM time

[main crow]

[keen jasper]

Round 1: Preemptive Light Screen
Round 2: When a pokemon faints, entire team gets debuffed
Round 3: Sync buffs are more effective
Round 4: Additional effects of moves are more likely to occur
Champion Round: Physical moves deal more damage

[old orchid]

no half sync countdown

good

[proud axle]

Hell, Round 3 is a blessing when it shows up

[zealous karma]

Never in my life did I think “Yeah ssbrendan is going to get one shot”
I thought @
“ he’ll be fine”

[green path]

What a quake fest I love it

[tired sleet]

Dragon Rush chunked Sycamore with def buffs even before I turned on master mode

[green path]

4 quakes before sync WOW

[zealous karma]

What’re the odds of propulsion 1procking 6 times in one battle

May the goat

Why would she do this

[swift swan]

Oh, not so bad

Just finished classes, gonna have lunch before tackling CS

[main crow]

So lads how's the Kalos CSMM experience so far?

[paper summit]

my idea of using SS Diantha as a boost to Wally's Cakewalk wasn't bad at all lol, love Rock Zone overriding steel

[tired sleet]

I did the same lol

[paper summit]

only issue could be Rock Slide from the right after Wikstrom is gone, but that's assuming they were still alive

[tired sleet]

Smh no ex wally
Unless the reason why they may not be alive is because he is exed

[paper summit]

yeah, that's the thing, between my Wally being EX and Diantha's AoE spam

they just die

[keen jasper]

18/18 done

[fringe valve]

Did a 10k off type run blind and holy shit they hit hard lol.

[queen ore]

That starmie hydro pump has no right to hit that hard

It fucking 2HKO my Xerneas

[fringe valve]

Malva one shot my calem lol

This week was fun

[tired sleet]

Drasna’s Dragon Rush/Pulse is also insane

[untold mesa]

Way easier than last week

[void wyvern]

Drasna dragon rush hits verrrry hard

[dusty path]

I can't figure out the best turn order 😅 They're all the same to me

[fringe valve]

Wtf drasna's theme is a bop

[dull yarrow]

This week wasn't too bad imo

[prime warren]

SCemmet can't ontype

So had to offtype it

[main crow]

Not even -6 def?

Oof either way

[prime warren]

I need to quadqueue for another mega horn after 2nd sync it seems

But can't pull it off

So close

[undone ether]

uh

what's the order?

o-o?

[keen jasper]

Damn, they all hit really hard

[prime warren]

Megahorn->potion->mirror shot is the order

Dragonrush getting SSmorty to red and flashcannon destroying SSblue is funni

[main crow]

Eugh why does Diantha have healthy advantage

Is it only her or does the sides have it too?

[undone ether]

both sides have Tough Cookie

[keen jasper]

Man, I wanted to try Nessa's nuke against Malva but failed miserably

[swift swan]

Recommended teams according to the tips:
Bug-weak Siebold: NY Lillie, Lucian, SS Hilbert
Water-weak Malva: SS Kris, Wallace, Summer Gloria
Fighting-weak Siebold: SSA Cynthia, SC Diantha, SC Guzma
Fairy-weak Drasna: Spring Burgh, Diantha, SS Wally
Steel-weak Diantha: Hop, Colress, Steven

I can replicate exactly none

[keen jasper]

I used Burgh for Siebold

[verbal karma]

Okay, I already know who to pick against R4 Drasna and R5 Diantha, but I still need to build good teams for R1 Malva, R2 Siebold and R3 Wikstrom

[undone ether]

R2 Siebold for me would be

Yamper, Guzma and Aaron

[verbal karma]

Is this good against R1 Malva in MM?

[undone ether]

Definitely needs SS Kris 😦

i'd also probably do Surf sheningans with Lodge May

[main crow]

0/5 Colress and 0/5 SST Red 🥲

[verbal karma]

Alright, guess I'll just try

[undone ether]

Guess ill try this mmhmm

[swift swan]

Hard mode done, time for MM

[swift swan]

Can that diantha team inflict status condition?

[verbal karma]

This isn't working out 😦

Both May and Archie can't survive Malva's sync...

[keen jasper]

Well, Malva's Sp. Atk. can't be lowered

[verbal karma]

And it shouldn't be

[keen jasper]

Should

[verbal karma]

Well, no, because I am trying to beat her before she can sync

But I am, like, 15% of her health short

[keen jasper]

Quadqueue?

[undone ether]

Take thaaaat

Kek didnt get a chance malva

[swift swan]

Quadqueue should be possible with this. Grid ssb with adrenaline, sync with him first. Reach second sync safely. Profit.

[undone ether]

8 Sync Moves with Guzma

why

WHY?!

he gets like 90k HP. for what purpose ;_;

at least i could kill the sides easy.

[trail smelt]

UGH

As expected

Drasna was THE WORST

… when I’m trying to monotype Fairy with no powerup sycamore, Bede, or SS Wally haha

The rest were easy and I gave up on Drasna with fairy. Killed her with Psychic team instead

[undone ether]

Drasna seems like you need to rewrite the thing

[verbal karma]

No need, SS Blue has Adrenaline

Anyway, I was able to beat it after all

[keen jasper]

MM?

[verbal karma]

Yup

[keen jasper]

How many points?

[verbal karma]

For R1, I went the whole 2000 points

[keen jasper]

Nice

I'm pretty sure you can 2k all of them

Your roster is built up to that point now

[prime warren]

Kalos feels hardest to tank hits but generally more doable than hoenn and sinnoh if you nuke down

Hoenn and sinnoh were felt harder to brute force than this one

Except for diantha coz diantha suk

[swift swan]

Idk if it's just this week not hitting so hard or something else, but I feel like Hoenn still hits harder

[keen jasper]

Would you like to speak to Drasna?

[verbal karma]

I really hope THIS team is good enough for R2 Siebold...because I have no confidence...

[keen jasper]

[prime warren]

You have alder......

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message yes

[verbal karma]

He eats a lot of MG, tho

[swift swan]

This week has the additional effect param. Just flinchlock drasna

[swift swan]

Idk what viola is there for

[keen jasper]

I used Burgh, SS Morty and Lodge Dawn for Siebold

[polar dome]

can alder survive at least 1 sync

[swift swan]

Then bring a fast support

[verbal karma]

Further debuffs

[keen jasper]

I think Siebold's sync is special?

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[swift swan]

I doubt Lusamine is gonna survive even at -6 sp atk and +6 sp def

[verbal karma]

Damn...

[prime warren]

Alder can pre sync

Psure abt that

[keen jasper]

That's true tho

[trail smelt]

Funnily enough my bug team survived the sync pretty well

I was using Alder tho not the stick

[swift swan]

Why are y'all postsyncing

[keen jasper]

My Burgh almost defeated Siebold if it weren't for me queueing up Bug Buzz before Siebold synced

[trail smelt]

Oh I misclicked my first sync

[verbal karma]

...wait, how CAN Alder work if he eats a lot of move gauge and I need moves that eat little move gauge to reach sync attacks faster?

[trail smelt]

I was supposed to go with Aaron… but went Lodge Dawn instead LMAO

Siebold managed to sync with 1 HP left or so and tickled me with his sync

Then I beamed his ass lol

[swift swan]

Bring a fast support who can buff the speed of the entire team

I brought two four-gauge users in Alder and SS hilbert this week. Smooth sailing

[formal vigil]

Who was the support

[undone ether]

Took 2 tries lol i forgot to buff bea xD

Drasna now hum

[verbal karma]

Aaron/Skyla (EX)/Aaron should let me cook Siebold then

[undone ether]

double aaron?

o.o

he's very bulky

like DEF Bulky

but once you kill the sides

all you need to do is just Flinch .-.;

crap

forgot about no status conditions

[swift swan]

Ss brendan

My favorite special support whenever my ss kris is occupied

[main crow]

That was a fun CSMM

[undone ether]

pfft

okay

screw this

[verbal karma]

Nope, not working out in the slightest

Alder can't survive Siebold's sync

[undone ether]

2x Aarons? how? o.o

my Guzma has vigilance .-.

[trail smelt]

Really? My Alder survived Siebold’s sync very comfortably

-6 special attack +… I wanna say 2 special defense?

[undone ether]

what the heck....

Drasna actually hits hard why 😭

[trail smelt]

She does

[verbal karma]

He was only able to survive it once, and he only had 10% of his health left 😦

[trail smelt]

Because of zone haha

[verbal karma]

Not to mention that Aaron also only barely survives the sync

[dusty path]

Oh we were supposed to status Diantha? 😂 Jasmine/SCJasmine/PalMarnie ftw

[trail smelt]

I just had MSol smash her to the ground

[undone ether]

damnit

almost had her

dies in a corner

[main crow]

Her sync is nasty strong

[manic kiln]

Bruh

1/5 wally and bede

[undone ether]

i give up.

[trail smelt]

I have none of those units LMAO!

[undone ether]

Fairy Zone required.

[trail smelt]

Well aside from sycamore obviously

[manic kiln]

Oh i though you used them

Yeah without them it’s a trouble to mono

[sand karma]

Has nov not written a round bonus guide this week?

[undone ether]

the only zones i have is Steel and Dark 😭

[trail smelt]

I thought we’re going with the new format of info in the pins

[sand karma]

I was talking about the round bonuses like perma field etc

[dusty path]

Go dark, sleep them to death and just zone after they zone

[undone ether]

sleep with who even?

😦

.-.

guess its 9000 BP time huh

1k bp .-.

[swift swan]

I find it hard to believe that team can't 2k

[swift swan]

Someone wrote it but I guess it hasn't been pinned yet

[undone ether]

presync nukes?

i could but too tired ._....

[verbal karma]

...my initially planned R4 Drasna team doesn't work 😦

[swift swan]

R1: Special damage reduction on entry
R2: When a pair faints, debuffs the stats of all team members
R3: Sync buffs are more effective (postsync is not recommended)
R4: Additional effects are more likely to occur (be careful with Wikstrom and Siebold here)
R5: Physical attacks are powered up

[old orchid]

what team are you using?

can resort to stalling if you feel you cant beat her

[verbal karma]

This one

[old orchid]

uhhh

[swift swan]

Gotta check pal dawn's kit first, can she max crit?

[old orchid]

no

Pal Dawn isnt good at nuking

[verbal karma]

Stalling won't work by default because Sycamore can't tank at all

[old orchid]

Hop - PDawn or Mina - Sycamore then

[verbal karma]

Mina replaces P Dawn?

[old orchid]

yeah she is better at dmg

[swift swan]

Sycamore not being able to tank at all is the most ridiculous take I've read all week, and it's only Monday

[old orchid]

Dragon Rush hits too hard smh

[manic kiln]

Can try this, mono but pretty safe, need lodge lillie tho

Def buffs help

[swift swan]

R4 is additional effects right? Flinchlock Drasna

[verbal karma]

It's either that, or Drasna randomly became a Hydrogen Bomb

[manic kiln]

Sycamore can tank at least 3 dragon rush

[swift swan]

3 is generous

[old orchid]

with crit buff he should be unkillable

[swift swan]

Hmm okay, 3 but he dies on the 3rd one

[old orchid]

she flinch locks your tank instead

[swift swan]

With crit it's a completely different story tho, yeah

[old orchid]

k

[keen jasper]

I EX-ed her just for this moment

[verbal karma]

Coughing Sycamore vs Hydrogen Drasna

[swift swan]

Dragon rush is 20%, with that round param it becomes 40%. It's fineeee

[keen jasper]

Oh damn, I forgot about restrain

[swift swan]

Considering how much of my 40% water pulses failed to confuse Uxie in my LG runs

[keen jasper]

Gotta do it again

[verbal karma]

So wait, do I replace Lillie with a flinch locker then or what?

[swift swan]

Damn. I should've used Nessa this week. I knew something was missing

[old orchid]

do Hop / Mina / Sycamore first, its easier to manage

[swift swan]

Replace pal dawn with a more self sufficient damage dealer like Mina, or replace Lillie with Hop to buff crit

[old orchid]

if that team fails (i hope not), use flinchlock team

[sand karma]

Thanks

[swift swan]

Flinch is an option but it's iffy to pull off

[verbal karma]

Hop is already on my R5 team, tho

[old orchid]

so BP Surge then

[swift swan]

Since Cs isn't a scripted battle, we can't really predict when drasna decides haha dragon rush go brrr

[verbal karma]

I can replace Pal Dawn with Mina, though

[old orchid]

Lillie does nothing other than giving sure crit in that team

plus no defensive buffs

[verbal karma]

Lillie debuffs, actually

She has Unfortious

[old orchid]

defensive buffs are better

her debuffs are too random

[verbal karma]

...okay, def buff or sp def buff?

[old orchid]

the mid has resistance to debuffs too

[old orchid]

def buffs sice Sycamore can max spdef

thats why i recommended either Hop or BP Surge

[verbal karma]

Ah

BP Surge then

[undone ether]

Done... 9k csmm haah

time to rest uwu

[keen jasper]

Goofy ahh damage

[undone ether]

😦

[swift swan]

Nessa Sweep lfg baby

[undone ether]

i went with Lodge May

her DPS is pretty good .-./

[verbal karma]

...nope, BP Surge/Mina/Sycamore isn't working out

[undone ether]

is it drasna?

i tried redchu... still got punched

she hits extremely hard even without zone 😭

[old orchid]

something went wrong?

what parameter did you use?

[grand trout]

YAY I CLEARED KALOS MM

@proud axle i used celesa instead for diantha, worked wonders 🙂

[swift swan]

Did you use Charm to debuff mid's attack and have Pecking Order gridded on Mina?

Her nuke should be good post support EX sync

[old orchid]

and you even have good chip dmg from Hop

[grand trout]

Who's the hardest for y'all?

I'd give this one to wikstrom

I kept praying he won't use eq

[verbal karma]

Pre-Sync, but with "Max HP ^2" instead of "No Stat Reduction"

[verbal karma]

and I did

[old orchid]

do you have Adrenaline gridded on Sycamore?

[verbal karma]

Yup

[old orchid]

you shouldnt pick HP up

[verbal karma]

Wait, what

[grand trout]

Yup

[old orchid]

pick Atk up 1

[grand trout]

Do all the atk params

[old orchid]

less health for them = easy win

[grand trout]

Btw gakon

[old orchid]

no need to, just pick one atk up

[grand trout]

Is it better to pick strength 1 or ally hp -5

[old orchid]

depends on team

[swift swan]

HP 2 is not recommended

[verbal karma]

But Sycamore is already bad at surviving Drasna as is

[swift swan]

Only if you're very confident with your nukes

Replace it with strength 1

Same 100 points

Much less inflated final HP

I've shown you the final stats of HP 2 vs Strength 1 before, they're very stark

[grand trout]

The hp nodes are for stall right

can you even stall kalos cs

[swift swan]

Stall, yes. Or if you're just confident with your nuker

Like, very confident

[old orchid]

keep spamming Horn Leech

and only use Moonblast when his health is full

Hop also has emergency Potions

[swift swan]

Ally HP -5 is kinda iffy. I rarely take it, only when I'm running SS Dawn who can burst heal on sync. In most cases, strength 1 is safer

[grand trout]

Yeahhh i don't want to nuke only to find out the opponent survived by the skin of their
Teeth thanks to increased hp

[grand trout]

Oh, i mean healing - 20

Not hp

[swift swan]

Ally healing down? I pick that most of the time

[grand trout]

I somehow don't lol

Idk

[verbal karma]

Not working out either

[swift swan]

In presync your dmg dealer will kill before healing matters anyway

[grand trout]

It feels like living on the edge but then again mm is

[old orchid]

if you can record your gameplay, it will help us giving good advice

[verbal karma]

Except Mina can't 😦

[grand trout]

So healing down over strength +1?

[old orchid]

yeah

[verbal karma]

Won't be able to until I am back home, which won't be until another 7 hours at least

[grand trout]

Oh I'm the opposite lol but that's just me

[grand trout]

Do you have lodge Lillie?

[verbal karma]

...I actually do!

[old orchid]

yeah can try her instead of Mina

[grand trout]

She has se up

[old orchid]

note that her dps isnt as good as Mina

[grand trout]

She can be used alongside mina too

[old orchid]

her main dmg source is from SEUN nuke

[grand trout]

For the debuffs

[old orchid]

no crit buff

unless replace Sycamore

[grand trout]

Yeah that's for the third one lol

[old orchid]

Hop Lodge Lillie Sycamore should work

[grand trout]

Oh yeah sycamore can't crit lol

[manic mica]

how is kalos cs? up there with hoenn/sinnoh cs levels of difficulty?

[old orchid]

on par with Hoenn

[manic mica]

[old orchid]

might be easier/harder depends on your roster and skill

[manic mica]

ill send what teams i can make later and judge it from that

[verbal karma]

Oh god

Lodge Lillie does even LESS damage than Mina 😦

[old orchid]

i already said it earlier

her dps isnt good

but her sync nuke is better than Mina, with SEUN

[manic mica]

SEUN can affect syncs?

[old orchid]

yes

[verbal karma]

But that one is ALSO weaker than Mina's

[old orchid]

and max moves tô

[manic mica]

wtf

[old orchid]

you did something wrong

what grid is Lillie using?

[old orchid]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11800/76400?s=5&l=140&r=4&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDhMUFRcYLi8

use this instead

focus on nuking

use her TM before she uses sync move

to get SEUN

[spring fable]

Uhhh

Need help with this cs please

Only managed to win Malva so far

[sand karma]

Ooh I'm done
I love Kalos
Wikky and Malva did not hold back
Drasna also hits quite hard but i used SsBlue
Diantha went down easier than i expected

I wouldn't have managed wik without elio sleephax

[old orchid]

can you post your roster here?

either under move level tab or sync pair tracker site

[spring fable]

sure thing

[umbral plaza]

how did u beat 2k Wilkstrom
My team of Marnie’s Brother, Shiny Ho Oh support and SST Red keeps dying

[old orchid]

do you SSA Cynthia?

or any zone setters that not named Palentine Marnie
or Darach or Lisia
to override / remove Steel Zone

[old orchid]

should replace Piers, he does nothing in that team

[umbral plaza]

no aura cynthia
I’m using both electric terrain + sunny to beat Steel zone but it didn’t help much

[spring fable]

Strike

[old orchid]

you dont have Lisia or Darach?

[spring fable]

Tech

Support

[old orchid]

you should visit Sync Pair Tracker site

later

[verbal karma]

Even with this grid, Lodge Lillie's sync can't kill Drasna 😦

[old orchid]

to avoid spamming like this

[old orchid]

so switch to post sync params then

[verbal karma]

Are you sure Lodge Lillie can survive with post sync params?

[old orchid]

yes

[umbral plaza]

I have but I don’t think it would be much help in long term

[old orchid]

bruh

their job is removing zone

[spring fable]

let me try using sync pair tracker