Champion Stadium

[silk sundial]

Got it

[proud axle]

Hau's grid is potentially optional if you just have Volkner sync

After sync, Volkner spams Thunder Fang trying for Paralyze and Flinch

Straightup never uses Wild Charge

[silk sundial]

Got it

I’ll build him next

[proud axle]

[silk sundial]

Does this activate only is Rosa uses it

[proud axle]

Correct

It is also separate for each EX Support on the team

So if you have two EX Supports and they each sync once, you get four layers of the Sync Buff

[silk sundial]

I love lillie

[silk sundial]

Oh that’s so good

[proud axle]

tbh the second sync should really be a DPSer taking the boss out but yeah

[silk sundial]

Fair enough

What grid should I use for volkner

Anni lillie is soooo gooood love her

[proud axle]

Maybe just leave it like this, we're gridding a lot of people today and this is plenty for him, for now

Maybe Thunder Fang Move Gauge Refresh

Sonia wants at least this much

[zealous karma]

~~Fully expected sync ti not crit ~~

[proud axle]

If you wanna splurge, you can do this for her. (Notice the upper-left branch is slightly different; the Spark node is slightly cheaper than the HP node and this is exactly a full load of Energy)

[silk sundial]

Oh I didn’t see this before thanks

[silk sundial]

Got it

Ty

[silk sundial]

Fr

My units who have never seen the light of day are all becoming 120s

[proud axle]

💪

[void wyvern]

A lot of the 3*-4* are either pretty good or are useful. It’s good to get in the habit of reading kits.

[proud axle]

...Did Roark's grid salvage him?

[silk sundial]

Lisia and rapidash are insane in that video

12k damage and it’s not even super effective

[silk sundial]

Most of my 5s are level 1s too

Almost all my units were untouched before I started cs

[void wyvern]

Did more than just salvage him.

[silk sundial]

Because I just bruteforced everything with red skyla Rosa

[proud axle]

...One is Roark, and the other has, uh, zo-roark.

[silk sundial]

When did roark get a grid

[void wyvern]

He’s getting one this patch, You can check it on Poma tools or game press

[silk sundial]

I was reading a not so old article the other day and they said Roark was trash

Oh

[proud axle]

Standfast 5 and 7, huh... That's about equivalent to the triple Standfast 5 on Elesa or Hilda

[silk sundial]

LOL

[void wyvern]

As a rock striker. He is getting a good nuke, is no longer getting one shot by head smash, and has some more utility on his tm.

[proud axle]

Rock-weak Malva's reprise will run until Feb 26...
I wonder if people might try him against her

[void wyvern]

I know I will. I know a few others will test him as well.

[proud axle]

Sounds fun!

Must remember to check back on that day to see the fireworks

[dim marsh]

For real?

Which f2p pairs have been getting grids on the last couple months?

[proud axle]

I just noticed he has Standfast 5, 7, and also 3
Which puts him at approximately the equivalent of Standfast 9

[dim marsh]

I've been away from the game for a while

[proud axle]

They add a few every Masters' Day (25th of each month)

[rotund lagoon]

They’re listed in #1012256199128915968

[dim marsh]

Thanks!

[proud axle]

You can sort by Grid Date, Descending and look for the F2Ps

[void wyvern]

A majority of the Poma day grids have been improving units from niche to viable.

[silk sundial]

I wish this stuff was for nonpaid too

[proud axle]

I did the first pull and got 10 3stars and 1 4star

Would not recommend

[silk sundial]

😭

[proud axle]

I hate seasonal banners

[silk sundial]

Did the 3k gems one of the same thing

Same for me

All 3 stars I believe

Don’t think I even saw a 4 star ticket

[silk sundial]

But those units are so good 😭

I want them

Palentine Mallow is a s uper cool character too

Torn between scout or dont scout

If it had shiny appletun it would be a different story

[proud axle]

The first seasonal banner I pulled on, was Halloween Acerola (not least because one of her grid skills has a hilarious name)

Halloween Acerola had, for a while, an emoji here.
The emoji's name was :whyareyousobad:

[silk sundial]

😭

Is she actually bad

That’s a shame

[proud axle]

The worst among all seasonals, apparently

[silk sundial]

Look at my pfp

I love mimikyu

[proud axle]

Workplace filter says no

[zealous karma]

If you want to 3/5 her she’s pretty solid

[silk sundial]

😭

[silk sundial]

Workplace filter bypass

[zealous karma]

2K+ pings

Actually dyint irl

[silk sundial]

It’s the animated sprite

[zealous karma]

F Acerola maybe a bad seasonal but she still works on type, she’s nowhere near HoliEirika levels

Dying irl

[silk sundial]

It was closer to 4K last week

[paper summit]

and people wonder why we don't like to get pinged lol

[proud axle]

The skill in question. I wonder how this works with Lessen Confusion. I think there was at least one boss with reduced resistance to it

[zealous karma]

A team of all stop hitting yourselves

[proud axle]

Sidney has it too. Was there a third?

[proud axle]

Interesting indeed

[silk sundial]

I have 3 of those 🥳

Omg I just accidentally called someone from here and had it on face cam

For 5 whole minutes before noticing

[grand steppe]

he's like the best f2p rock-type now

[proud axle]

Fascinating indeed

As I recall, Head Smash had very high power and there was never anything wrong with his Atk-- so giving him ~90% worth of Standfast just might do the trick after all

[nocturne pawn]

standfast 7+5 is already 87.5% dmg reduction so don’t bother with 3

[keen silo]

Does the ability stack

[proud axle]

Is it not 85%...?

30% x 50% = 15% remaining recoil?

[nocturne pawn]

oh wait 87.5% is with standfast 3

oops

[proud axle]

Is it not 89.5%?

What's more, Head Smash has a 33% recoil rate compared to 20% on Wild Charge or 25% from Flare Blitz and Double Edge

[paper summit]

you are overthinking this way too much, Roark will only take about 5% recoil instead of 33% with Standfast 7+5

taking 3 is not that worth it so you can go with other tiles

[proud axle]

Some makeshift math and gut estimation lead me to suspect that Rock Malva's team with +8Strength (and no HP modifiers) can be taken down with just Standfast 7+5-- if he throws a sync nuke in to alleviate the burden on his HP, triggers First Aid for more HP, and doesn't take any post-boss Heat Waves. He also doesn't actually have to survive the Head Smash that wins the match, so there's some room for "overflow."
This got me looking for something stronger to throw him at, and... uh, well Moltres has a Rock weakpoint but No Thank You

You might be right that 7+5 is enough for... anything sane.

[tired sleet]

Is that first or 2nd sync?

[proud axle]

Basically the math was that Malva at +8Str has roughly 20× Roark's 5star 0/20 HP, so Head Smash alone would be just about enough to take her out if he takes no other damage. Malva isn't alone, though, so First Aid 4 would cover the HP for knocking out one sidekick and at least one Sync nuke would save him the HP for knocking out the other.
This does mean needing to presync Malva herself and get KO denials on both sidekicks

EX Support does not help this very much, as the increased damage still means increased recoil

It would not allow him more output per HP; it would simply allow him to push that output through in fewer turns

Or you could bring someone with Potion.

I kinda felt like that was cheating though

[tired sleet]

I meant to ask whether roark had 0 or 1 sync buff

[proud axle]

I didn't even count that. I just counted HP per HP

I counted raw output only, not damage per turn

He has to presync, but I do not know if he can actually beat that deadline because I didn't calculate for it

[dark osprey]

EX support would probably help in denials of the sides. Think it would be similar to BP Karen, where you deny the side(s) with DPS then get in an EX support boosted sync on the center to get rid of as much HP as possible and then get in some more dps

[proud axle]

If you do side denials before taking Malva out, then I can definitely see that being a thing

Preemptively extinguish the Heat Waves

[dark osprey]

True. Just not sure if the damage is enough for sentry entry. At least the sides don't have them luckily

[tired sleet]

I was more thinking of a left side denial with 1st sync (that’s generally the strat i use for non ex strikes)

[proud axle]

Yeah, I used to do it that way too

[dark osprey]

if u can deny with the dps after the EX sync, u do get like 2 turns ahead in the next sync cycle & don't have to bother with crit on sync

#1009554906568462476 message

oh. actually here there was no EX sync

but the same principle

[zealous karma]

I need master mode I am going feral

[dark osprey]

haha

i reset the stages

have something to do over the weekend at least

especially since gauntlet is gone, its quite boring

they really need to upgrade Villa

[hazy tusk]

Gauntlet has been gone for only 22 mins and you're already bored?

[dark osprey]

i think its the anticipation of being bored

[paper summit]

my god, go find a new game or whatever lol

[dark osprey]

honestly don't do much of the gauntlet. only one weekend and that's it

expecting to touch grass

[zealous karma]

I’ve been playing 3 different new games I just really like playing poma lel

[swift swan]

Dedicated

[zealous karma]

I really have fun with this game

[paper summit]

it's called being an addict

[zealous karma]

Yes

[void wyvern]

Correct

[glossy gorge]

Very late response, and I don't have that

[toxic cobalt]

Hello, have you made any progress or still looking to start?

[glossy gorge]

I couldn't beat the last one cause I kept on dying when they were almost all dead

[glossy gorge]

And I have only beaten one rn, I don't really have time to beat the rest so that's why

[toxic cobalt]

Which one did you beat and with who?

[toxic cobalt]

Oooh it's so weird to click a stage and not have the MM menu pop up

[swift swan]

[toxic cobalt]

For you

[proud axle]

Kinda miss when they were allowed to name mons like that

It's not that they didn't gaf, it's that they decided to give a different one than expected

[toxic cobalt]

You can still rename them

Good Lord it’s bigger than the framed area

[swift swan]

reminds me of a jigglypuff toy I got back home

[hazy tusk]

Why didn't they name it

Bigglybuff

[swift swan]

scream tail eggmon when

[toxic cobalt]

Done

[hazy tusk]

Look at the size of this absolute unit

[full mesa]

Love it

[molten nimbus]

BIGGLYBUFF

[proud axle]

Yeah, I know, but Igglybuff/Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff just has a different charm than the kinds of names we see in modern Pokémon naming convention

[toxic cobalt]

Not a fan of pudding and custard?

[proud axle]

More like I appreciate being able to deviate from the JP meanings to make new naming themes

[stray sentinel]

Struggling with this battle. Is poison needed or can I survive with Lara and replace koga with anyone literally lol

Para not lara

[rotund lagoon]

So since you’re using Sophocles instead of Hau, you’re gonna need to change things up.

[stray sentinel]

Oh ok

I assume swanna is ok ?

[rotund lagoon]

Remember the teambuilding fundamentals?

[stray sentinel]

Yes

Striker first then support for striker

[rotund lagoon]

What does Sophocles need?

[stray sentinel]

One sec

Tiny bit of attack

To get to 6

He has crit and defense

[rotund lagoon]

Note you can also save a turn by using a Crit buffer. Is Sonia or 3/5 Hilbert available?

[stray sentinel]

And can para 🤔

Sonia and yamper are at 1/5

[rotund lagoon]

Hilbert?

[stray sentinel]

Don’t have

Who is hilbert paired with again

[rotund lagoon]

Samurott

[stray sentinel]

Not yet :/

[rotund lagoon]

Do you have BP Surge?

[stray sentinel]

Yep

[rotund lagoon]

Is he on another CS team?

[stray sentinel]

No

[rotund lagoon]

Switch him instead of Koga. If you have 9+ types for this week, you should be fine.

[stray sentinel]

Ok

Yamper/surge/soph?

Or swanna and surge

[rotund lagoon]

No, stick with Skyla for now. Then Surge and Sophocles.

[stray sentinel]

Ok

Here goes nothing

[rotund lagoon]

And don’t forget to Support sync!

[stray sentinel]

Yesss

Always? Or just the first

For the ex boost

[rotund lagoon]

First. Support double buff only happens the first time.

Better to do it first so you get the buffs right away.

[stray sentinel]

Right

So swanna sync then doesn’t matter next sync

[rotund lagoon]

Sophocles, probably.

[stray sentinel]

Or first sync for each support

[rotund lagoon]

Remember it is Support sync

If you know the benefits and know who of your units has it and who doesn’t, it’s helpful when making teams.

[stray sentinel]

Ok. For example I have two support ex

Would it be two boosts or one per battle

[rotund lagoon]

You sync with one Support EX, it is two buffs. You sync with the other Support EX, its another two buffs. After that, regardless of who syncs, it is one buff.

+exeffect

[frozen depot]

Each Sync Move adds a Sync Buff () to your Team, one is a 50% Damage Boost for the Team. When EXing a Sync Pair, you unlock a role specific Powerboost:
Support EX: Their first Sync Move gives your Team an additional (100% damage increase in total)
Striker EX: Their Sync Move does now hit every Opponent, but the damage is calculated as if it would hit each Opponent individually (No AoE Damage Mitigation)
Tech EX: Their Sync Move Base Power gets boosted by 1.5x

[north crown]

avoid fighting, water, fairy, bug, steel

dw this is for my personal CS run

[stray sentinel]

idk why I am having such trouble with electric weak siebold

[grand steppe]

You're inflicting Status on Siebold right? otherwise Healthy Advantage 4 is going reduce damage.

[rotund lagoon]

You have BP Surge, use Thunder Wave.

[zealous karma]

I finally got pelesa can MM hurry and get here lel

[grand steppe]

not having the reset button is torture

[paper summit]

not applying your own advice about touching grass? smh

[grand steppe]

I walked right into that one.

[stray sentinel]

I am using thunder wave but once siebold dies I get surfed to oblivion lol

Washed away into the deep sea 😭

And i think soph is my best on type for electric

[rotund lagoon]

Maybe I should try a clear again…

[stray sentinel]

Unless I just bring in my lizia and stomp

Lol let me know if it’s rng again and I’m unlucky af

I’m queue. Ex syncing. No auto or ff

I’m triple queue

[grand steppe]

When defeat sidebold are you almost at the next sync or did you already use the 2nd one?

[rotund lagoon]

Hey @stray sentinel Does Sophocles have CS2?

I took Siebold out first try.

No grid.

[grand steppe]

After siebold dies, the Right side should be the one next to queue a move. If you can target and KO the left side in 4 hits so it dies while queuing a move, that will let you get another sync off and should clean them up.

[stray sentinel]

What is CS2?

[stray sentinel]

How did you set up??

[rotund lagoon]

Critical Strike 2.

I can record again.

[stray sentinel]

one sec

hmm

is that a lucky skill?

[keen silo]

Yes

[stray sentinel]

I dont. What does that do, wont open on my app

oh nvm

Hmm. I dont have it, is that what helped you @rotund lagoon ?

[rotund lagoon]

Critical Strike 2 really buffs your damage. You use to roll for it.

[stray sentinel]

i havent done lucky skills on anyone by sycamore L3

[rotund lagoon]

How many cookies do you have?

Lucky Skills are important.

[rotund lagoon]

Wait you didn’t grind in LG?

[keen silo]

Likely didnt

[rotund lagoon]

That….poses a problem. Luckily Battle Villa and Blissful Bonanza are on, so you have an option.

[grand steppe]

Your recorded run wasn’t optimal, they shouldn’t require CS2

[zealous karma]

Do they have skyla ex as well?

[rotund lagoon]

They do.

[rotund lagoon]

That’s true, it is hard mode. I was gonna ask if they record tbh

But I’m awful at explaining visual stuff, hence why I recorded what I did.

[stray sentinel]

Hey sorry@mom visited

I can try and record in a few

[zealous karma]

Do they have Volkner cause at that point migjt as well use him Instead

If using hp surge I don’t imagine so

[stray sentinel]

I have volkner with luxray?

[rotund lagoon]

He’s more reliable in status conditions.

[zealous karma]

Yes

50% is still very high and don’t forget terrain and flinches

[stray sentinel]

Oh ok

[grand steppe]

This was gridless too?

[rotund lagoon]

It was.

I never gridded mine.

More like I forgor

[grand steppe]

It’s 12 BP and 50% from grid for Wild Charge.
Tough Cookie, SDE2

[rotund lagoon]

Yee

[rotund lagoon]

Hi @rough current Could you tell me which round you’re doing Drasna on?

[rough current]

Not sure

[rotund lagoon]

Eh? Is she your first opponent?

[rough current]

Weak against dragon round

[rotund lagoon]

@rough current

Have you…done CS at all?

[mellow linden]

Yes, that’s Drasna

[rotund lagoon]

I mean which round parameters, Cobalt

[mellow linden]

What Elite 4 members have you already faced this week

[mellow linden]

Yeah, was getting to that lol

[rough current]

Second, I used Ash, Steven and N against Wilkstrom it was probably over kill.

[rotund lagoon]

Status conditions.

[mellow linden]

Ash + SS Steven + Anniversary N doesn’t even have synergy

[rotund lagoon]

Ummmm, doesn’t Drasna have Paralysis on Dragon Breath???

[mellow linden]

Definitely should’ve spread those 3 out

[void wyvern]

Electric weak Siebold

[void wyvern]

Is your Cyrus ex?

[rotund lagoon]

Anyway, do you know the fundamentals of teambuilding?

Your team had no synergy, no Supports. So I’m just gonna send this.

+101

[frozen depot]

Teambuilding 101:

Step 1: pick a damage dealer ( / or with high damage)

• take a look at their moveset; note what they buff themselves in terms of offensive stats (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer)

Step 2: picking appropriate for your damage dealer

• take a look at your through the filter option and the Known Moves tab and pick two teammates that fill in what your damage dealer is missing (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer )

Addendum: if your damage dealer's needs can be filled in with only one support, then your third team slot is more flexible and you can choose defensive (potions, buffing defenses, lowering attack) or a second damage dealer

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[rough current]

Nope

[rotund lagoon]

Did you do Victory Road too?

Victory Road teaches you the game if you have not done it.

[rough current]

Yep

[void wyvern]

Have you completed getting all the legendary adventure pairs?

[rough current]

Yep

[rotund lagoon]

Is Cyrus EX’d?

[rough current]

Nope

[rotund lagoon]

Thats fine.

We can work with it.

I think Cyrus should be your main damage dealer for this.

Drasna has Terrify, so he should be fine.

[mellow linden]

Just real quick, try building a team around Cyrus and show it to us before you actually do the fight

I wanna get a rough estimate of how much you’ve honed your teambuilding skill

[rough current]

Is Cyrus & Palkia, Brendon & Latios, and Drake & Salemence good, or should one of them be swapped?

[mellow linden]

Is there a specific reason you picked Drake as the 3rd teammate?

[rotund lagoon]

Mono teams, I think.

You do not need to do a mono team.

[mellow linden]

That’s my suspicion, but I want to confirm

[zealous karma]

That sounds like a recommended team for an old cs ignoring ssbrendan

lel

Or an auto create

[rough current]

To buff special defences to reduce damage from enemy special damage or was that a bad choice?

[rotund lagoon]

You saw what the teambuilding said?

Build around the damage dealer.

Also Drake is……….not very good.

[zealous karma]

His Atk stat is decent

[mellow linden]

You have the right idea, but there’s better options than Drake + SS Brendan for Cyrus’ teammates in this case, since you want to try and fit at least 9 (preferably 12 or so) total different types across your teams

[zealous karma]

doesn’t mean the rest of him is decent

[rotund lagoon]

Oh yeah also note SS Brendan and Drake is kinda redundant.

[void wyvern]

Drake having team sharp entry but no mega

[mellow linden]

Sycamore can handle Cyrus’ Sp. Atk. buffs, buffs the team’s Speed and Sp. Def., and can heal statuses in case of an unlucky Paralysis from Drasna

[rotund lagoon]

Which could happen more on this round

[mellow linden]

And since Cyrus can handle his own crit buffs via his Critical Focus Sync Grid tile, that means you could use the 3rd slot to either further bolster the team’s damage/survivability or as a filler slot to add another type to the type medal

[rotund lagoon]

Actually… @rough current Have you been trying multiple types to fill the medal?

[mellow linden]

Round 2 has no effect on affliction chance, just the chance of getting fully paralyzed

[rotund lagoon]

Oh huh

[mellow linden]

I mean, since they’re on round 2 and they used Ash/SS Steven/Anniversary N on Round 1 they kinda have

[zealous karma]

I love overkill

[rough current]

yep, fire electric and psychic are filled.

[rotund lagoon]

If you’re gonna do overkill, at least use a Support lmao

[rotund lagoon]

From last round?

[zealous karma]

I’d say tribstrike is way more overkill than having a support in there lessening offensive powrr

[rotund lagoon]

Fyypos, have you figured out an extra teammate?

[rough current]

This round, so against drasna I'll try Cyrus, Sycamore and Brendan that should fill fiary and dragon.

[mellow linden]

Try someone else instead of SS Brendan, he and Sycamore fight for Sync and have redundant buffs

[rotund lagoon]

Pay attention to kit redundancies.

Sycamore and SS Brendan are redundant.

[rough current]

Instead should I add Lucas or should the third one be a different type support?

[mellow linden]

You could add Lucas for Dragon Zone, yeah. Just try to make sure you’ve used at least 9-12 different types across your 5 battles so that you can more easily finish getting the type medal done to unlock Master Mode next week

Easy enough to do as long as you don’t monotype a stage

[rotund lagoon]

Wait hang on, doesn’t Drasna do Dragon moves too?

[mellow linden]

True

[proud axle]

That she does

[rotund lagoon]

Wouldn’t that cause a bit of an issue?

[proud axle]

Lucas could get you very very killed

[mellow linden]

Possibly, can always adjust if needed

[rotund lagoon]

Unless you do not use Zone. But I recommend switching for the medal.

[rotund lagoon]

Do a different teammate.

You can plop someone of a different type. Like a debuffer, or another healer with Potion, etc.

[proud axle]

Brock has potion, your own Pikachu has potion and self speed buffs, Misty has Friendly Care

Morty/Mismagius has potion and I think you skipped using a Ghost type against the Ghost fight, so you can get credit for that too

[rotund lagoon]

Electric is done already.

[rough current]

I only have morty 1/5 is that enough or does it needs its more filled grid?

[rotund lagoon]

Just plop him in.

He’s a filler teammate.

[rough current]

Oh Morty/Mismagius I don't have that one will Driflimb help at all?

[proud axle]

Probably not

[rotund lagoon]

Do you have Helena?

[zealous karma]

They do drastically dif things lel bp morty and base

[rough current]

Whats that sync paired with?

[rotund lagoon]

Haunter.

[zealous karma]

~~They also buff the opposite stats funnily enough ~~

[proud axle]

Sabrina can heal too

[zealous karma]

One heals and the other deals damage when they die so many parallels

[proud axle]

She is physically glassy but this fight has no phys attacks

[zealous karma]

Reflect and sentry entry 2 help at least for her physical bulk

Can the pb plz give her guarded entry 2

[rotund lagoon]

Anyway, I don’t want to overcomplicate this

But you got the third teammate @rough current ?

[rough current]

I think so, is Eevee okay to be the third it has a heal, or is it to easily taken down?

[rotund lagoon]

Leaf will be fine.

[rough current]

I have her 4/5 so I just need to make a grid for her. Then it should be a bit easier.

[rotund lagoon]

I think you’ll be fine without but ok I guess

[rough current]

Without anything on grid ok I'll try it might be a bit harder when it gets to master mode though.

[void wyvern]

One step at a time.

[rotund lagoon]

Cross that bridge later.

Focus on the now today.

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Master Mode teams are often completely different from Hard Mode teams since you’re no longer trying to fill out the type medal

[rough current]

This team isn't working against drasna she keeps dealing aoe damage and knocking out palkia who isn't dealing that much to her altaria.

[mellow linden]

Did you get Cyrus’ Critical Focus tile and did you do your 1st Sync with Sycamore?

[rough current]

Critical Focus tile what's that?

[stray sentinel]

I did it 😭

[mellow linden]

It means Cyrus buffs his crit when he lands a crit. It’s arguably his most vital Sync Grid tile

[stray sentinel]

I beat soebold

[mellow linden]

Since Cyrus is more crit-reliant than pretty much anyone

[rough current]

I have Critical Focus 2 but it doesn't seem to be helping to much

[mellow linden]

What move are you using with Cyrus and are you doing 1st Sync with Sycamore?

[rough current]

Using new world order twice to start with

[mellow linden]

Don’t bother

Sycamore handles Cyrus’ buffs when he Syncs

Which is why I’m asking if Sycamore is doing 1st Sync

[rough current]

Yeah

[mellow linden]

Cyrus should pretty much only be clicking Spacial Rend until your 2nd Sync Move is ready

When he does 2nd Sync

[rough current]

Still deals very little damage to the altaria even after xerneas sync perhaps we should swap the third one out.

[mellow linden]

That won’t do much (if anything) to improve your damage without also significantly boosting Drasna’s damage

Is your Sycamore EX?

[rough current]

Nope and I only have 7 power ups left.

[mellow linden]

You get powerups for the Legendary Adventures pairs for free

Did you exchange them?

[rough current]

Yep

[mellow linden]

Why

It’s literally a terrible deal

[rough current]

What do you mean?

[mellow linden]

…When I say “exchange”, I mean “trading away the custom powerups instead of using them to increase the Sync Pair’s potential”

What did you think I meant, just to ensure we’re on the same page?

[rough current]

exchange legendary event exchange items for the 5 star power ups. Pretty much the items they give to get free 5 star power ups

[mellow linden]

So you traded 10 custom Sycamore powerups for 1 universal 5-star powerup? Or are you talking about increasing the move level?

[rough current]

I used them Steven, that was probably a bad choice to use them on.

[mellow linden]

And that confirms things

The custom powerups from Legendary Adventures are meant to be used on the Legendary Adventures pairs. Trading the custom powerups for universal ones is a terrible deal and shooting yourself in the foot for no reason.

[rough current]

Unless maybe that's something different I'll have a look

[stray sentinel]

[rough current]

Nope looks like I accidently did shoot myself in the foot, thats ok its should be fine without the ex.

[mellow linden]

Is Sycamore’s move level at least 5/5

[rough current]

Yep

[mellow linden]

Ok, then can you screenshot your Cyrus grid and show it for us please?

[rough current]

Still have a bit of energy remaining, but I'm unsure where else to use it on?

[mellow linden]

Ignore Steady Aim (no crit debuffs exist) and grab some Spacial Rend Base power, Sync Move base power, and Critastrophe tiles

[trail smelt]

You can check the pinned grids in the sync grid channel for ideas

[rough current]

Updated. This should be a bit better maybe it will make the difference against Drasna.

[void wyvern]

That grid still has steady aim. You should change it out for the sync power nodes

[rough current]

Isn't steady aim good though?

[paper summit]

no...

[nocturne pawn]

deadass useless

no one has haze or snatch therefore crit debuffs dont exist rendering it completely useless

[void wyvern]

^

[paper summit]

don't ignore the advice you are given...

[mellow linden]

Steady Aim has no current purpose in the game for players

With the sole exception of a single Extreme Battle Event that 1) isn’t running right now, and 2) Cyrus wouldn’t be used for anyways

[nocturne pawn]

wait an ebe used snatch

[mellow linden]

Lear in the Alola EBE

The 2nd anniversary one

The only enemy that ever uses a form of buff removal

[proud axle]

...And it'd only target Cyrus if for some insane reason he was tanking

...off-region

[rotund lagoon]

Please check the document in #1009587872342478908 pins for a build.

[proud axle]

There used to be a time when every enemy in the game had built-in Haze in their sync moves
But that's over

Been over for years

[rotund lagoon]

I surprisingly do not remember that.

[proud axle]

Impervious characters were highly valued because it would fail on them

https://youtu.be/T7Lafx4Jssc?t=311

Timestamped for the relevant part

Cheren uses his sync and Korinna's buffs are deleted

[rotund lagoon]

Huh, well then.

[proud axle]

Yeah, it was pretty oof. If you used all your buffs before the first enemy sync, they'd vanish and then you have to finish the fight without any

There're other historic things I could point out in that video, but the haze thing is the one relevant to this convo

[paper summit]

this was in the age of no MPR

dark times those were lol

[proud axle]

And when Lv100 wasn't "the baseline" but "a distant-future goal"

(So we didn't have the Speed to triplequeue)

(You can see that after Cheren's sync... both teams run out of gauges soon afterward and have to just stare at each other for a bit )

[bright furnace]

that sounds terrifying

i just remember those caps to unlock a third and fourth move

[void wyvern]

Training machines!

[proud axle]

Megaphones unlocked the third and fourth move
Capsules unlocked your passives

You'd recruit Silver from his event and he wouldn't have Solarize

[bright furnace]

i downloaded on release and quit after 2 weeks so i wouldn't know lol

i still have some of those lying around, just gonna keep them forever

[trail smelt]

Lol early Pokemas

[rotund lagoon]

Oh remember the first drinks?

The bronze and plain af cans?

[trail smelt]

I still wish they’d rerelease the OLD EX fights. Now that we have a larger roster more people can join in to fight them

[rotund lagoon]

Oak’s is still in my bag.

[old orchid]

He will haunt you forever

[rotund lagoon]

Oh and the reward boost tickets

[proud axle]

Funnily, some gear events are those

[proud axle]

Precursor to the daily battles!

[stray sentinel]

Sameee

[trail smelt]

Nah they’re still the same nerfed fights we had

[proud axle]

That so? I thought we just had powercreep. Hm.

[onyx ice]

They got nerfed too, initially they had basically impervious, status immunity and interference immunity, some where susceptible to 1 status, interference or stat drop

And the stats got nerfed too i think

And back then enemy sync had built in haze

And level cap was 100 for 5* units and i think 95 for 4* and 90 for 3 stars

[proud axle]

The built-in haze thing is gone in general anyhow

Yes, yes, I was there

[onyx ice]

Yes, i mean was part of what made them really hard

[proud axle]

I just never played EX Plaza before the nerf because gear farming was a big scam at the time

[onyx ice]

Plus no sync grids, and units weren't that great

Lucky skills weren't even a thing

[proud axle]

Those fall under the Powercreep umbrella and not the Nerf umbrella

[onyx ice]

Yes, is both of those, those stages got heavily nerfed and power creeped

Back then they where EB level of difficulty

[proud axle]

If they did re-release it, I wonder how the playerbase would react

Coodination and communication are very limited in public lobbies

And a lot of players are... not great at this

[onyx ice]

I don't think people will like hard co-op content if they have to rely on randos

[proud axle]

I agree

[onyx ice]

Expecially with people that play dumb or auto

[proud axle]

I feel like co-op events (gear, Masters Day) are only so well-populated because they're so easy and accessible

[onyx ice]

I remember back then, getting suboptimal teammates in co-op was a reset

I think that a fair difficulty should be something that can still be beaten with NPCs

[silk sundial]

Who was I supposed to use for siebold again

I just used volkner

Did almost nothing

This guy is built like a tank

I did 3 or 4 syncs with the sycamore team as a last resort with all three paralyzed

Not even halfway

LOL

All defenses shall fall in front of my toxic stall

[paper summit]

Aura Cynthia for a stall... kind of a waste, but I guess if it works, it works

[silk sundial]

Yes

[silk sundial]

Who shall I use for drasna

She is dragon weak

All but 2 of my dragon trainers are untouched

The 2 are level 29

Who should I build

[violet timber]

Master mode stadium looks scary

[silk sundial]

Fr

This heat wave from drasna is literally oneshotting me

[eternal lodge]

Hoping I'm ready for next week's CSMM, I've heard it's the hardest CS so far but I couldn't check this week because of MM reqs, if this doesn't work I don't know what will

[silk sundial]

Cool roster

[eternal lodge]

Ty

[sinful garden]

you are missing a drasna team but you will clear easily

its still hard mode

[civic trellis]

Which drasna stage has the go viral toxic? Fairy?

[paper summit]

no, it's the Psychic one

[grand steppe]

For Breakdowns like this:

Diantha

• Satisfied Snarl 9, Trip Up 4, Weigh Down 4 + Ripple Effect 9
• Ramming Speed, ⚠️ Head Smash, Stomp, Many Sources

Kalos CS Full List: #1009554906568462476 message

[trail smelt]

Well good thing I don’t depend on physical fairies

Too bad why I do have sucks

[zealous karma]

Lisia the goat

[trail smelt]

… that steel is gonna be annoying for me haha.

[zealous karma]

Watch Steel diantha have the all Status inflictions have increased chance

Round param

[mellow linden]

More likely increased secondary effect chance

[zealous karma]

That’s the one

[trail smelt]

Is that the one that increases flinch chance?

[mellow linden]

Yes, it’ll increase the chance that a move will flinch if it has a chance to do so

[stable karma]

Looks like it's time to pika offtype the steel diantha

[proud axle]

Volkner isn't a dps king. He is a kingmaker for someone else. This week, Siebold nearly halves all incoming damage unless he has a status on him... which Volkner can inflict

[proud axle]

Cyrus is extremely strong for Water and Dragon. If Heat Wave is a problem, consider adding Misty for SpDef. That leaves a speed booster, perhaps Roxanne if she is still available

[keen silo]

What does danger sign quad queue mean

Is it impossible to quad queue or quad queuing is a requirement?

[mellow linden]

Quad queue is basically impossible without Sync accel

With Fighting weak Wikstrom setting Steel Zone on entry

[proud axle]

Entry field effects sre like that, but most others here have ones more easily overwritten in ways that are quadqueue friendly

Wikstrom's intended answer is Aura Cynthia, whose Fighting Zone is also applied on entry, which does not fix the problem

[keen silo]

Ah i see, thank you!

[mellow linden]

But also if you have SSA Cynthia then Wikstrom is probably getting KOed before he can Sync anyways

[proud axle]

Just not via sync nuke

[silk sundial]

And here is the second

[mellow linden]

What specifically is going wrong when you try to face Wikstrom?

[silk sundial]

I used Roxanne hop and cyrus

[silk sundial]

He wipes me out

[mellow linden]

With?

[silk sundial]

I get far enough for like

Him alone

Or both his teammates and him at half

[mellow linden]

Focus Wikstrom before the sides

[silk sundial]

Ok

I was doing the sides cuz the condition is sync pairs faint

All stats drop

[mellow linden]

That parameter is honestly just kinda there, I wouldn't strategize around it

Outside of making sure your own team stays up

[silk sundial]

Ohhh ok

[silk sundial]

Alright

So who should I use?

Currently I was doing anni lillie + Cheren + hau

Just for extra type badges

But that is clearly not working

[mellow linden]

Focus on proper teambuilding 1st

[silk sundial]

So I added misty and psyduck

For defense

[mellow linden]

A. Lillie + a tank + a gauge support, if the tank and gauge support can be the same Sync Pair (like Skyla) that's great

[mellow linden]

You don't have to shoot for the maximum 15 types, 9-12 is fine for week 1

[silk sundial]

Ok sounds good

[silk sundial]

My skyla is free

However I am saving her for the champion

My champion team is skyla Rosa red, my strongest units by a pretty far amount

Well not that far anymore

But still

[mellow linden]

You're probably gonna want to adjust the SS Red team anyways

If not outright use a different team since Flying weak Diantha lowers your team's Sp. Atk. by 2 stages at the start of the fight

But if you really want to save Skyla for now you can use Marley + MistyDuck for A. Lillie's teammates

[silk sundial]

I used marley for malva

She’s out

Mistyduck is available

[mellow linden]

Do you have Hilbert, perchance

[silk sundial]

Yes

He’s still available

[mellow linden]

Then get his X Speed All MP Refresh tile and he can work as your gauge support, or you can use Skyla and adjust the SS Red team

[proud axle]

Skyla + AnniLillie should be able to crush Wikstrom with any third member

[proud axle]

Is this available at 1/5?

[mellow linden]

Yep, Hilbert gets his X Speed All MP Refresh at 1/5

[proud axle]

Excellent, it could work

If Red is 2/5, I'd prefer Hilbert with him tbh

Haymaker

Don't know for sure whether he is though

[silk sundial]

Red is 5/5

[mellow linden]

Do you have a 3/5 Sonia?

[silk sundial]

Sonia is 4/5

Level 1

Untouched

[proud axle]

Then yeah, he works way better with Hilbert than Skyla

[mellow linden]

Cool, you can use Sonia with SS Red later

Or use Skyla as your gauge support and use Hilbert with SS Red if Hilbert's 3/5+

[silk sundial]

This is very very funny because my original team was hilbert Rosa red

Then people told me to scrap hilbert and put skyla

And it’s been that ever since

[zealous karma]

Sonia is an incredible unit and very worthwhile EX’ing whenever you can

Sorry to side track lel

[proud axle]

Maybe they didn't know Red was 5/5. He gets Haymaker at 2/5

[old orchid]

[silk sundial]

I’ll consider it

[proud axle]

And Hilbert helps Red accomplish it

[silk sundial]

I want to ex characters I like

I do like sonia

I was also considering giovanni

[zealous karma]

That’s very fair

[proud axle]

EX Gio is not based on Champion Spirits

[mellow linden]

Giovanni + Mewtwo's EX materials are from an event

[zealous karma]

Maybe they meant classic?

[mellow linden]

Not the standard materials

[silk sundial]

Hilbert is 2/5

[proud axle]

Oh, Gio Persian?

[silk sundial]

Oh

Will it come back

[old orchid]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Then use Sonia with SS Red later (at minimum grid Sonia for Ruff Buff MP Refresh and Ruff Buff Critical Squad)

[proud axle]

Probably

[old orchid]

It came back once

[silk sundial]

Yay

[silk sundial]

I don’t have her gridded

[mellow linden]

So do that then

[silk sundial]

Can you share a preferred build

[mellow linden]

#1009587872342478908 has examples

[proud axle]

For Wikstrom, AnniLillie Skyla and a random third should work

[old orchid]

+gridlist

[frozen depot]

Document by Spark#8888, found in #1008010844547842079

Sync Grid Builds & Tier List - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF42uzF-xpkcfIU2gVEY4Dl7sS_I3ITj8g5X2lo1usA/edit?usp=sharing

[silk sundial]

Got it

[mellow linden]

Any build with Ruff Buff MP Refresh and Ruff Buff Critical Squad works

[silk sundial]

Alright

[proud axle]

I also sent you some builds the other day IIRC

[silk sundial]

So I can do that rn?

[mellow linden]

Pick your favorite of the builds that use those tiles

[silk sundial]

And build sonia for champion?

[old orchid]

Fish for her TM MPR to max crit and atk ^

[zealous karma]

Hopefully next month

[mellow linden]

You can do Skyla + A. Lillie + 3rd pair for Wikstrom and Sonia + SS Red + Blaine or SS Erika for Diantha

[silk sundial]

I’ll continue using cheren for the third then lol

I need a normal tile

The opportunity is rare

Or maybe ground

[proud axle]

It was here (along with a whole plan to fight Siebold but whatever...)

[silk sundial]

Are there few ground units or do I just have few ground units

[silk sundial]

Oh yeah 😭

Sorry

[mellow linden]

Naomi is a fine Ground damage-dealer, but there aren't that many non-limited Ground Sync Pairs

[silk sundial]

I have 3 and they are all under 30

[mellow linden]

Ok, so you can level them

[silk sundial]

Ok

[mellow linden]

Naomi's good, you can level her and use her for Ground weak content later

[silk sundial]

I have Naomi

[proud axle]

Is Naomi at least better than Hapu

[silk sundial]

At 5 stars

I think

[mellow linden]

Pretty sure Naomi's stronger than Hapu (ignoring EX and the physical vs. special difference), yeah

Anyways, Skyla + A. Lillie + 3rd pair for Wikstrom, and if you want to use an SS Red team then Sonia + SS Red + Blaine or SS Erika for Diantha

[zealous karma]

Even with Ex hapu is not exactly the strongest

Her sync or her DPS

[proud axle]

Quite weird luck indeed to have 5/5 SSRed but 0/5 of the other two in the trio... well, stranger things have happened

[silk sundial]

Blaine?

He’s good?

[mellow linden]

Blaine sets Sun

Which significantly boosts SS Red's damage

[silk sundial]

I’ve used him quite a few times but only when I need to do trap stuff

Oh

I’ve never used sun red

[zealous karma]

Blaine actually does have a solid nuke now lel

[silk sundial]

I have leaf

[mellow linden]

Grid SS Red for Haymaker and Solar Flare, pair him with Sonia and a Sun setter, and watch big Sync Move damage

Just make sure to use his Trainer Move twice for that setup

[proud axle]

I thought you had Eevee but not Venusaur

[nocturne pawn]

even without solar flare sun buffs fire damage by 50% by itself

so its just a good thing to have

[silk sundial]

I have venusaur

At 1/5

[proud axle]

Oh. Maybe you could've used her here

Venusaur has a really powerful set of passives for toxic stalling

[mellow linden]

Too late now, but good for future reference

[proud axle]

Yeah

I'll open Pomatools and show you, so you can know it for later

Venomous 4 means she inflicts Toxic on enemies she hits, with a 50% chance (evaluated per attack, not per target-- so if you hit them all with Razor Leaf, it's a 50% chance to Toxic them all)

But wait, there's more! When she Mega evolves, that skill is replaced by a different one!

Poison and Toxic status will do more HP% damage per turn!

[nocturne pawn]

wow adrenaline 2

[proud axle]

She's also pretty bulky

So you can use her as a tank

[civic trellis]

Oh rip, I was hoping it was fairy so I could use NY Lissi still using her anyway but that passive wouldve helped

[silk sundial]

Oh cool

I could’ve saved sycamore then

[proud axle]

She's also a pretty competent grass attacker

[mellow linden]

Iirc she needs 3/5 to really shine as a damage-dealer

So eh, Brendan and SS Erika exist

[civic trellis]

Well atleast ss wally will still help to clear dragon zone

[zealous karma]

Drasna has zone?

[civic trellis]

Fairy weak has dragon zone on entry I think

[mellow linden]

Fairy weak Drasna sets Dragon Zone before Sync, iirc

[zealous karma]

Imagine wanting zone before your second sync how dare you

[old orchid]

Free Dragon Zone for my Zerena

[proud axle]

Mutually assured destruction

[civic trellis]

Its too bad go viral toxic is on psychic and ice, I could counter it on fairy but she doesnt have toxic for fairy weak

Maybe I could still use bede on psychic weak since he sets terrain

Then ss steven to destroy the stage

[silk sundial]

Go viral toxic is the worst

[proud axle]

I want to say "Antitoxin on your tank removes that threat" but Antitoxin feels like it's disproportionately on Techs instead

[paper summit]

considering when in the fight Drasna uses Toxic, it shouldn't be an issue in the slightest when the usual strat is presync

[rotund lagoon]

Sycamore exists tho

[paper summit]

yeah, that too, it's not impossible to deal with if she does use it

will be funny to see Toxic fail and by extension Go Viral 9 when the tank is already poisoned due to other moves

[mellow linden]

I don't think Go Viral is tied to Toxic in Drasna's case

So any Poison infliction should be teamwide

[paper summit]

oh, right, all have it

I thought for a moment only she did, nvm then lol

[toxic cobalt]

What is her toxic move? I don’t remember being poisoned once

[paper summit]

Toxic...

[toxic cobalt]

That tracks

[paper summit]

they all also have a poison move of some kind

Poison Fang, Sludge Wave, Poison Tail, Poison Jab

[toxic cobalt]

Annoying

[mellow linden]

Oh, only Drasna has Go Viral

That much is true

But she also has Poison Tail and afaik Go Viral isn't specifically tied to Toxic

My bad, I was a little too vague

[paper summit]

yeah, it procs with whatever is applicable

ok, so if the sides manage to poison your tank before Toxic then Go Viral won't activate because Toxic will fail

the status has to be successful for it to proc

[mellow linden]

Yeah, assuming Drasna doesn't hit the 10% Poison chance from Poison Tail before one of the sides Poisons

50% chance for Poison Tail Poisoning on Ice weak Drasna

[paper summit]

right side has Poison Jab and Sludge Wave, Left has Poison Fang, and Sludge Wave when Drasna dies but that doesn't matter for the Toxic case

in any case, it's a bunch of RNG, just clear presync or bring something to cure poison

[toxic cobalt]

Is there a way to paralyse your tank?

[mellow linden]

Just use Shauntal as your tank, ez

[proud axle]

Lyrapuff can self-inflict Sleep

[mellow linden]

Can she?

I thought one of her big issues was that she has stuff that relied on herself being asleep but no way to inflict Sleep on herself

[paper summit]

after syncing...

[proud axle]

That says target. That's odd.

[mellow linden]

That's only opponents anyways

From the wording

[proud axle]

Does someone have her to try it out?

Errors have crept into Pomatools before

[paper summit]

oh hmmm, ok, so a considerable part of her kit is essentially useless huh

[mellow linden]

Her kit is honestly a bit of a mess

[paper summit]

or well, her TM

[proud axle]

Why the hell does a Jigglypuff not have Sing, especially attached to a Trainer with a musical name, in the starring role of an event about music

[zealous karma]

Idk how the post syncers are going to deal with this CS lel

[paper summit]

adapt or die, basically

[rotund lagoon]

Idk

[mellow linden]

Depends on the stage

[zealous karma]

Me when rising tide

[proud axle]

Isn't Steven's name Daigo? ...Kinda like Taiko, the drum? It was music everywhere in that event

[paper summit]

yes, his name is Daigo, but that translates to a tree, not a pun

[zealous karma]

Steven stone but he’s a tree

[paper summit]

man, I cringe so hard everytime I see his name in spanish, I hate it so much

[zealous karma]

Idk his Spanish name

[paper summit]

good, keep it that way

[zealous karma]

Time for bulpapedia

That’s not real

[proud axle]

Are the cutscenes for that event on YouTube anywhere? I think I remember someone saying they'll be on percussion-- but I'm not certain it's him.

[paper summit]

it is, he is called that and I feel physical pain every single time I hear or read it lol

[zealous karma]

💀

[proud axle]

Uhh, the Spanish equivalent for "Steven" is probably "Estefan" so I'm just gonna pretend it's that, rather than go look it up

[paper summit]

lol, fair, but yeah, not close in the slightest

[proud axle]

If it's as bad as you say, Estefan is probably better

[zealous karma]

That feels like a fan made name

[zealous karma]

Or a poorly translated one

[paper summit]

there are a ton of examples, moves are just as bad

[zealous karma]

They let the localization team do anythingn

[proud axle]

The EN localization for the "pudding" mon was freaking "Jigglypuff" so

[zealous karma]

His name in Spanish is worse because you don’t even have to be Hispanic to get it 🐴

[proud axle]

Maximo is an alright name, but that surname is...

[zealous karma]

And they go in conjunction with one another

[mellow linden]

That is a very unfortunate name to have English-speaking players read

[zealous karma]

💀

[proud axle]

I know the Spanish word for... the other rock-hard thing, but I can testify that, yes, it does still resemble this word

[mellow linden]

Oh good gosh, it’s multilingually bad?

[proud axle]

https://i.imgflip.com/4aw5c9.png

[zealous karma]

I do too

[proud axle]

I'm not Hispanic but, well, the Spanish word for that other thing is ||REDACTED||

So yeah, his surname still does kinda resemble... (cough)

[zealous karma]

There’s multiple names for said word

There’s another one that sounds like the pasta

And that’s what I more closely correlated it with

Early 2000’s was brazy

[mellow linden]

Probably best to delete that to be on the safe side, btw

[paper summit]

tbh I am hispanic and did not think of that correlation, so yeah, thanks I guess for changing that 💀

[zealous karma]

Oh lel

[proud axle]

I am full of compelling ideas.
"Are they good ideas?"
They are compelling.

[zealous karma]

Wrong server wrong game wrong everything

Love life

[civic trellis]

I like to keep one lucky skill on my pairs rather than change it cuz LS rng sucks sometimes

[proud axle]

In this case I mean from an innate passive or grid

Antitoxin as a Lucky Skill is... like, maybe if the tank already has Vigilance and Healthy Healing built in

[old orchid]

Or just bring a status cleaner

[grand trout]

Would cerena sweep malva next week?

Ofc I'll bring rain too

[void wyvern]

Yes Cerena will obliterate Malva

[swift swan]

definitely

[old orchid]

I would be surprised if you cant win even with Cerena

[grand trout]

I'm confused at sages' post

What does the warning at quad queue mean

[toxic cobalt]

Means quadqueueing may not be possible

[grand trout]

Oh thanks

Hmmm i might have to remove that zone with defog, i don't have fighting zone lol

[toxic cobalt]

That would allow quadqueing!

[grand trout]

Wait what

How

[toxic cobalt]

It's the zone expiring that kills the quadqueue

[silk sundial]

Which sonia one am I supposed to go with

[swift swan]

Depends, for what battle?

[grand trout]

Oh yay

[swift swan]

The zone on entry will disappear right before your first sync, interrupting your quadqueue window. If you defog it, that interruption will be gone

[silk sundial]

Vs Diantha CS

She’s supposed to compliment my red

Not sure how tho

Someone here told me to use her with red

[grand trout]

I think you misreplied

But that's cool

[silk sundial]

Oops yeah I did

Sorry

[silk sundial]

Diantha CS

[grand trout]

Nah all good

[swift swan]

Red? Snorlax red?

[silk sundial]

Ssred

With charizard

[swift swan]

If your ss red is 2/5 or higher, sonia supports him by buffing his attack for his Haymaker nuke

So what you need on Sonia is the Trainer Move MPR and the rest is up to you

[silk sundial]

What’s haymaker

Other person said the same thing

[silk sundial]

Ok

[cinder summit]

Haymaker

The more the user's Attack is raised, the more it powers up the user's sync move.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Hugh & Bouffalant
Sygna Suit Red & Charizard
Kris & Feraligatr
Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
Sonia (Special Costume) & Tsareena
Hala & Crabominable
Guzma (Special Costume) & Buzzwole
Cynthia & Garchomp
Sygna Suit Giovanni & Nidoking
Kahili & Toucannon
Brock & Onix

‎

Blue (Classic) & Aerodactyl
Roark & Rampardos
Hilbert (Fall 2020) & Mightyena
Grimsley (Kimono) & Bisharp
Steven & Metagross

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[swift swan]

Only available on SS Red if he's at least 2/5

[silk sundial]

Oh cool

I didn’t know move level gave passives

[swift swan]

move level unlocks more tiles on grid, which is how you access these passives. it's different from the innate passives each sync pair already has

have you read the #1010307000346878062 by any chance

[silk sundial]

Ohhh

I didn’t know there were passives on the grid

Regardless, they won

I don’t know if Red had haymaker or not

Thanks for the help everyone

First time skyla hasn’t been here 😞

[toxic cobalt]

Poor Skyla

[proud axle]

Remember how we mentioned Inertia gives +100% sync move damage at +6 Speed?
Haymaker is the equivalent for Attack. It gives you a reason to want Atk buffs on Red.

[keen jasper]

You mean using his own TM?

[proud axle]

Amazingly, no. His TM only gives him Atk if his Zard is Mega... meaning it's already used its sync move

So using his TM for Atk means syncing a second time with Red before you can benefit from Haymaker, and it also means he can't use his TM to give himself Sp Atk for his first sync's damage-- he'd need it from an outside source

If you're going to give Red the second sync in a fight, you'll probably actually prefer to give the first sync to an EX Support

If you think about it, he'll need either his SpAtk or his Atk to come from an outside source. The former if he uses his TM for Atk, and the latter if you want him to have Haymaker do anything for his first (and possibly only) sync

Using his TM post Mega kinda also means not using Blast Burn for two turns while you have the sync buff up

There are just... a lot of reasons not to use that TM for Atk.

[keen jasper]

I didn't even realize that lol

[proud axle]

Yeah, it sounds great until you actually put it up to scrutiny

[eternal lodge]

the karen team is meant to be that one, i just forgot to change the name and i meant master mode when i said mm

[white gale]

for steel weak Diantha next week, who is better to combat her Healthy Advantage? 1/5 Colress or 3/5 SST Red? Or just use another Steel damage dealer like KGrimsley? My main Steel damage dealer will likely be PMarnie

[old orchid]

Do you have 3/5 Sonia? Or any support having good chance to inflict status?

[white gale]

I do have 3/5 Sonia

[old orchid]

So Sonia + PMarnie + any Steel type dmg dealer (preferly physical) work

[dark osprey]

Also, doesn't Solgaleos piercing blows strike through it?

Maybe not sync though

[old orchid]

Yes it does

Sync doesnt have Piercing Blows effect

[dark osprey]

Ah. So I guess status is not an option

But necessity

[sand karma]

Dps centre and sync on sides?

[full mesa]

I'm going to try Burgh next week. Next ex.

[grand trout]

Is there a general 5* pool or bp/lodge unit that can burn?

I think burning diantha will be good, but i don't have farty

[formal vigil]

theres flannery

silver

[grand trout]

Thing is, i don't think flannery will survive mm

[cinder summit]

Conditions:

1: 5* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Burn‎

------------------------------

Ethan & Typhlosion
‎　⤷Flamethrower
Evelyn & Entei
‎　⤷Flame Wheel, Sacred Fire
Gordie & Coalossal
‎　⤷Hot to the Touch 4
Hilda & Emboar
‎　⤷Flare Blitz
Leon & Charizard
‎　⤷Inferno
Lucas & Flareon
‎　⤷Ember, Will-O-Wisp, Heat Wave
Morty (Fall 2021) & Banette
‎　⤷Will-O-Wisp
N (Anniversary 2021) & Reshiram
‎　⤷Blue Flare
Siebold (Holiday 2019) & Octillery
‎　⤷Scald
Silver & Ho-Oh
‎　⤷Sacred Fire
Skyla (Holiday 2020) & Togekiss
‎　⤷Tri Attack
Sygna Suit Hilda & Victini
‎　⤷Searing Shot

‎

Sygna Suit Lysandre & Volcanion
‎　⤷Steam Eruption, Heat Wave
‎　⤷Heat Wave: Scorching Touch 4
Sygna Suit May & Blaziken
‎　⤷Blaze Kick
Sygna Suit Red & Charizard
‎　⤷Heat Wave, Flare Blitz

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[swift swan]

I booted up 5* units only

[grand trout]

Yeahhh most of them are low chance though

I think I'll go with the entei girl

[old orchid]

Flannery has a good bulk. I used her as a tank several times and she tanks well, especially tanking physical hits. Additional healing like Potion or sun to activate Healing Sun really helps her

[grand trout]

Hmm

Raihan, flannery, ss morty for Cynthia?

Hmmm

[old orchid]

Cynthia?

[grand trout]

Diantha*

[old orchid]

Yeah thats work well

[grand trout]

Well, wish me luck lol

[old orchid]

SS Morty tanking so you shouldn't care about Flannery

[proud axle]

Flannery was the F2P tank of choice for a hecking Extreme

Her mon is literally a turtle made of rock

[old orchid]

Steel weak Diantha is made for which unit?

[formal vigil]

colress

[old orchid]

Oh him

[grand trout]

Why colress

[old orchid]

Somehow forgot he exists

He has Thunder Wave

[formal vigil]

because why not

[old orchid]

And Screech

[grand trout]

Is diantha weaker to Spécial ?

Oh physical

[formal vigil]

she has normal bulk

[grand trout]

I wanna use steven but mine is only 1/5 lol

[proud axle]

Steel Diantha? It's more that she has Def buff damage bonus skills

[formal vigil]

just slightly inflated hp

[proud axle]

You're supposed to Screech it off

[old orchid]

She has Tough Cookie andTowering Force

So yeah needs to debuff

Or she destroys you

[grand trout]

So krimsley then?

[proud axle]

And IIRC if you manage to get her Def into the negatives, she has low debuff resist

[old orchid]

Yeah

[grand trout]

I think he has screech I'm not sure

[proud axle]

Yeah, I'm gonna use Grimsley and a status-er

He does have Screech

[grand trout]

Yay

[old orchid]

Time to test my EX KGrimsley

[grand trout]

Krimsley over raihan then

[old orchid]

Havent used him properly in MM

[swift swan]

Time to test my newly EXd Kimono Grimsley

Though with non-scripted battles like this I need to get lucky with my metal burst

[old orchid]

i save MB for sides

Cuz i like SEUN sync morr

[grand trout]

Let's use flannery 🥺

[old orchid]

More overkill

[grand trout]

Yeah i think iron head ramming is the better strategy for diantha

mainly because i can't time my metal bursts right lol

[dark osprey]

Is there any other way ?

He gets like 50K or something first sync itself with SEUN, haymaker and the innate screech as well

[proud axle]

Actually I might partner Grims with SSLeaf against Diantha

Toxify and Sundering

[dark osprey]

Oh interesting

[proud axle]

Inflicts the status and helps the Def debuffing along

[dark osprey]

And the sync countdown reduction on demand is kinda a saver

[proud axle]

Especially given the way Metal Burst works

[trail smelt]

Hmm actually

Which steel can inflict a status effect?

[dark osprey]

Oh. I think there is some countdown reduction for metal burst on 3/5 grid

[dark osprey]

Coloress probably

[trail smelt]

I guess MSol can always spam Sunsteel Strike

[dark osprey]

Yeah true. But you would need sync damage as well I guess

[trail smelt]

I always forget Colress haha

[dark osprey]

Yeah. He's weird at 1/5 also

Screech and paralysis are nice but should have given him at least a damage move other than mirror shot

Also, as Gakon said for Kimono Grimsley, better to sync nuke the center and then use metal burst for one of the sides

[old orchid]

[zealous karma]

(Went to sleep and just woke up they'd have to have wise entry x6 for her to do nothing lel)

[tired sleet]

But if you deny with the sync itself, you get 3 turns ahead instead of just 2

The ex support would work with adrenaline but i’d like to avoid using head smash too much when avoidable

[dark osprey]

Oh. I meant 3 turns plus 2

Like if you deny with the sync you get the 3 turns after the sync ahead of the next enemy's move

But in the other case you sync with EX support, +1 from your non primary striker/tech/support, +2 with your primary damage dealer (denial) and then queue the 3 turns after that

With adrenaline it's +3 so you sync a whole enemy turn earlier

[tired sleet]

But you could still do that with sync denials too, and you don’t even need adren

[dark osprey]

How though? I mean getting +6 turns?

[mellow linden]

If you do a turn denial after you Sync then the one who Synced will be able to have their move queued before the next opponent action, eliminating the need for adrenaline or quadqueue

[dark osprey]

True. That's what I was saying too.

[onyx ice]

Adrenaline is only useful if you can't denial or quad queue

Or if you have extra post sync acceleration

[mellow linden]

Eh, even if you can quadqueue/turn denial it’s still useful. For QoL if nothing else

[onyx ice]

If you can quad queue/denial you will be able to sync in 3 turns

[mellow linden]

Which is why I say “for QoL if nothing else”

[onyx ice]

I mean even headstart 1 can be useful even if you can't reach -3

[dark osprey]

Adrenaline combined with a denial does help you get one whole enemy turn ahead

[onyx ice]

You can click the sync a turn earlier, so you don't have to wait at full gauge before using your moves for post sync

For double damage dealers comp, headstart can be useful because otherwise you will have to sit a 4 gauge with 2 units that need to queue moves

Too bad holiday jasmine doesn't have sync acceleration in grid, i wanted to use her with 2 turn move users

I can give se up, but i can't give ph↑ or sp↑ without sync acceleration

[dark osprey]

Unless denials I guess

her gauge isn't bad but isn't the best too I guess

[onyx ice]

My problem with stuffs like fly or phantom force and jasmine is Regen

[dark osprey]

How regen?

[onyx ice]

The Regen animation let's the fly expire before i can click the sync

[dark osprey]

Oh interesting

Was wondering how that was decided

[onyx ice]

My plan is to use fly at end of the 3rd turn and sync with support ex before it lands