#Champion Stadium
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I got other types then dark obviously but gotta be based around it prob
What are the move levels on those sync pairs
And do you have Nessa? (Water type galar gym leader)
First of all, use her, she’s pretty good dark dps
Aight yeah she’s a dope unit
Aside from her, I believe masked royal is a good pick
Thinkin masked royal for striker
Yeah agreed
But then what. Obstagoom boosts crit right?
And round it out with hop, I think
Try hop, your support doesn’t really need to be dark
Shield dog guy
Steel galar
I’ll have to look
So what you’ll probably do is use both of masked’s speed up trainer moves and then start attacking with him, because hop buffs crit and offense at the same time
One sec getting food at dining hall
S’fine
Alright cool thanks bro
Don’t forget Sidney
I opted for the 3/5 masked over the 2/5 Sidney, but yes, he’s also a good pick
honestly karen is straightforward and easy to use
striker and relatively self sufficient
So is Sidney, even without 3/5 lol
Don’t blame ya
And I like using Nessa as well, but Sidney and MR are more gauge friendly iirc
Nessa needs rain or else shes pretty bad with regards to gauge
but as long as she has it then shes fine
I like running her with masked for the speed up
I used Speed Supports before I got C Calem
Oh yeah he does raise speed
oh yeah ccalem is like one of the best possible pairs for nessa lmao
If not the best.
Oh absolutely
Buuut I personally think he is
Him and Dgloria are both great for entirely different reasons
Both do Water and Dark, C Calem buffs Attack more, and can do Rain and Dark Zone.
For Nessa, that is
But Calem hits both types, exactly
how do i build her
Who, Nessa?
i got her speed and rain nodes but the def modifier is in the corner
Both in Attacks and in Sync?
and idk how to get it without sacking a dps node
im wondering if its possible to get relentless while keeping her other nodes in rain and speed debuffing
Racer is good at sync grids, see if they’re there.
I meant in regards to weather you’re running her in water or dark
Yeah, Annie has the right idea with checking the sync grids, you should go there
Dude you can even do both
Rain to give her TM boost
And Dark Zone for the rest
True, but he already gives mgaccel, so I think it’s almost always a better use to boost dps straight up with dark zone, or focus on water instead
Jawlock is better in general cause it activates her passives.
imagine if she had oar 1 for that guaranteed def drop
Oh yeah for sure
I believe her jaw lock is better dps, but her water nuke is something else
does she outnuke may
You know what I just noticed? I literally joined this server one day after you
I… think so?
cuz ive gotten some big numbers with her
LOL OMG YOU RIGHT
Yeah I wouldn’t compare the two tbh
Agreed
I really need to look into running Sidney more often
I’ve been almost always been running masked for a full year now and it’s starting to get boring
You should! I didn’t have him for so long, so after I managed to, I ran him and boy oh boy no wonder Gaming Eevee uses him in clears.
Is it his nuke that’s good, or his dps?
Or both lol
He’s better in nuke, but DPS is pretty good too
Because I run masked because of his dps being relatively good and his nuke being pretty powerful
Also AoE Brutal Swing when it Crits is 
Yeah Sidney is hilarious
though actually
Nukes very hard and after he syncs his brutal swing hits like a truck
probably use brutal swing with +3 crit
I’ll try it out now then
to get the aoe confuse
YEAH—
Be back in 10 or less minutes
You can use both MR and Sidney haha

Sidney appreciates Def debuffs
i mean tbh i like masked royal besides the fact he gets no crit buffs
I have to try him, I got him in dec/jan so havent had him for too long
I use the Greninjas and Sidney, but one point, I should focus on Sidney as main DPS
May do ccalem sidney and mr
0/5
MR and Sidney both 1/5 CCalem 3/5
Can’t grid yet, but he still crazy at 1/5 when main damage dealer
I could also run cerena instead of either mr or sidney
also uh in my experience a 1/5 mr is just for debuff spreading
Do Cerena instead of MR
Alr
cuz everything damage wise is locked behind 2/5 or 3/5
and cerena can actually do damage while debuff spreading so 
Usually I just use karen ccalem and ss kris
Ccalem and ss kris can buff karen so she can immediately start spamming snarl for her nuke
C Serena dark rebuff can help tbh
She really can be a tech when you want her to be.
do you have her gridded with satisfied snarl
No
you should get it
Im going down my 5* list from ML 5 -> 1
-2 every snarl makes her setup easier
Currently at 2 so should do her soon
Oh karen
I thought u meant cerena
I have her 5/5 EX and gridded
oh i shouldve made that more obvious
tbh i dont find myself using ccalem’s dark zone very much
mostly cuz he for some reason ends up getting paired with special attackers but i also just dont have that much for dark
Really? •.•
like i have mr and karen thats really it
You should try it tbh
actually i know why
I knew I COULD do that, but then it wouldn’t be all Sidney
its cuz i need the self recovery of water mode more than gauge economy of dark mode

I always use CCalem for the dark zone. mainly because I already have ss kris that covers water
yeah ss kris just does what water b double team does ig minus the evasion
that's not a very high chance to recover tbf
unfortunately i dont have ss kris
That’s an oof
It depends who I use him with
dude hes survived a lot of stuff he shouldnt have because of that passive

Cerena ill use rain but karen dark zone
I see CCalem as an offensive support with decent bulk. his main draw is his offensive buffs so I don't need the heals that much
I only ever rely on his heals when I'm doing LA solos
I wish he gave both phys and special MUN to help karen
its mainly to just keep him alive
though you can say that water form is a lg bot
which isnt exactly wrong
He’s still rlly good tho
I didn’t really get why chalem was so good for like a solid month
And then I tried to replace him with someone else and was like “wow, chalem sets up a team really fast”
what annoys me is the +2 spatk
like it screams use me with cerena and i get why but its just
He can’t do everything, I suppose
its frustrating to see it
But I like him for his physical dark buffs the most, which is really convenient
but honestly its still a stupidly good tm for what it does soo
Same
I saw the black outfit and was like “DENA TAKE MY MONEY”
Except I didn’t pay
But I’m pretty sure I was literally the worlds first chalem owner
Idk you should see when my pull was
OH WAIT—
I PITIED THE MF 
So it was eight minutes after reset 
Do any of the W1 kalos fights have entry passives?
Idk I would check poma tools
Aite, I'll look into it then
I trust in Olivia
Since it’s Hard Mode though Olivia will still probably nuke no problem
Why are they repeating week 2 not week 1
Oh well, can still try Malva week 3
no no no no i dont wanna be traumatized by aegislash
💀💀
I’m just gonna do the 9-12 types range, probably
I see no reason to overly reduce team efficiency when you’re forced to do 2 weeks either way
I reduce team efficiency as a matter of course
Switch Koga and Red
Easy fix
Or break up whatever is going on in that Kalos bonanza
This?
That seems like you shouldn't have a problem
Nice, now to wait till next week
I just realized, what did Drasna ever do to you
That you’re throwing Greninjas + SS Serena at her

exist
The option was given, the option was not taken 
Drasna must suffer
She's not playable
She deserves it
For not being scoutable
how should i get started in playing master mode? should i just try using the recommended parameters within the pins? trying to decide which ones to go for is a bit overwhelming ngl
start at 850
you can always reset after if you want to go for a higher score
start with the recommended parameters at 850 points. if you need to replace a certain parameter, for example you need status condition or stat reduction, replace them with Strength accordingly
the pinned 850 are your basic building blocks and every time you go for higher points, you just add to that.
oo i see, thank you!
Baby steps. Since you can reset as many times as you want, there’s no harm in starting low, then resetting and try more parameters.
You still get to keep the rewards

Is there a list of like good F2P units I should be raising up that would be helpful in this mode? (Outside of the legendary adventure units). Not sure which 3/4 stars to prioritize raising up to 5 star/level up first
skyla (swanna) and misty (starmie) are good support pairs to start out with, they fulfill the most basic role for healing / defensive stats buff
4* is fine
so mostly just leave things at 4 star and like level 120?
i'll go for those!
You can go to 5* but don’t be afraid to use them sooner
Yes, 120 is fine, so is 4*
Roxanne is a star
Hail Roxanne
forgor about roxanne
Some really love the buffs from 5* stats but not needed. it just helps
i actually don't have much 4 star tickets so that's good to hear
i have a shit ton of the 3 star ones tho
For example 5* helps roxanne tank slightly better
Trading them up is an option but maybe not if you're super new
I would dump them into units
so i should mainly just use them on supports for now?
Generally, yes. Though some 3* supports are far superior than others
I wouldn't recommend you upgrading marlon, for example 
...hey aurochs what's our 3 and 4 stars command again
List below shows general usefulness of 3 & 4 star pairs.
Some pairs are harder to unlock than others and usually most require to be gridded.
There is no specific order within the tiers!
For more details, feel free to ask people in #poma-questions !
Ah thank you
Yeah, this is just a rough guide. Along the way with trial and error, you'll find out which difficulty level that suits you best, and you'll also want to choose different parameters from the guide itself based on your team composition
@zealous karma did u have any lucky skills?
Cz maybe thats what dragging me down
For me glalie dies after 1st sync move and by the time venomoth is down its just me againt conk and pinsir
Also give a spd buffer in this set
Otherwise,
Will: Nessa Kukui Hop
Koga: Blue Elessa Glacia
Bruno: Gio Rosa a spd buffer
Karen: Bea Nanu Phoebe
Lance: Cyrus Sycamore Plumeria
For Koga, i would replace Glacia with a defensive support
Like BP Morty or Misty
For Bruno, do you have Bianca (or Anni May or HWhitney)?
Dont use Phoebe on Karen, she is dark weak, replace her with other tank, preferly Skyla or Hilbert
Plumeria doesn't offer much for Lance fight at all, at least imo
here is week 5 runs #1059457677002031184 message
Can just use lucian over plumeria for spdef drops
I did have cs2 on blue and stuffs yes 🐴
For karen kiawe and bea ok?
Yes
That too, but Cyrus destroys Lance anw
Not the correct channel but if you find that you use him a lot and you’ll sync with him definitely any support Ex is valuable especially one as good as he is
He is like skyla right and he buff a lot sp a, attack and speed. Do some debuff also
For karen i plan to use kiawe and bea. I dunno who to put for the 3rd
Wanna save hop and xerneas for lance and bruno
He’s not much like
Ok done it karen 1.5k use kiawe bea and ss diantha. Somehow my diantha kill all of em
i want to try a 10k with this teams. Any opinions what i can do bettter or is this fine?
i want to offtype flying type with SS N
It's Johto CS, you have nothing to worry about
well I tried it last week and i fell on my nose for thinking that it is so easy
You have to know each rounds
And use them to your advantage
You shouldnt struggle with Johto CS with these teams. Although replace either Sycamore or Falkner with a psychic terrain setter
I feel most supports are worth exing
I don't have one 😫
Do you have Lucian?
Tell me about all and how to get em
yea i have her
Use him then
How to get cookies? You get CS2 from
. The gauntlet rn is great for grinding those cookies
Replace either Sycamore or Falkner
I have cookies
And ik how to get lucky skills but i want to know which specific ones for each
Rule of thumb, tanks should have vigilance unless they already have access to it via grid or passive. And most damage dealers like CS2
Some exceptions include Zinnia/Rayquaza (who mostly runs Dauntless due to Draco Meteor)
and Brendan/Sceptile (Leafstorm)
For some of them is still worth rolling it as lucky skill if it costs too much energy to get
Cs2 works too for outrage build
Brendan mostly wants dauntless
However stuffs like SS Erika, definitely want weathered warrior 3
Do outrage builds just let them get confused or?
Draco meteor is better than outrage in most scenarios
She has clearheaded in grid
Zinnia has clearheaded on grid
Ah
I see
Also weathered warrior 3 could work on Zinna if you have the relevant cookies for it
First 2k try damn it was so hard, how can i beat rest 4 haha, looks like I have to give more time ⌚to beat 👊those.
Should I change something for rest fights 👊
Round 2 is the best to bully Koga, can you show us your Flying roster?
One min

But if you feel like the opponents are hitting way too hard, it's fine to remove some atk and replace it with strength, like the 2k presync params on pins
Sometimes I do have to reset to avoid a lot of strong moves in early turns because with the full offense params, even my best tanks can get 3 shotted
Those are my only hopes for flying ✈️
and even Nate
Blue and Kahili then
Koga has high sp def but if Blue can handle Koga, then Lysandre can I believe
Or Lysandre and Kahili
Idk how good he is 1/5 though
Can you show your support roster?
He can work as a flying dps, mostly to clear sides
Kahili is the nuker here
Kahili needs grid
Those are my support damn my Internet sucks today
So what is the dps / nuker grid for lyzender & khalili
Check #1009587872342478908 pins
Your lysandre is 1/5 so just pick every oblivion wing tile
Btw just for reference, next time screenshot from the Move Level tab or use sync pair tracker https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
Note it uses debuffs
My Kahili nuke grid no idea what sparks is
Because Kahili gives herself atk and crit you can go nuts with the other two pairs. Why not Lysandre
Ok 👌I will try with khalili lyzender & skyla
Noted
@zealous karma u here
Which spd buffer should i choose
Lunatone
Salamence
Lapras
Starmie
Also give me what lucky skills i should get
If all that you need is Sp. Def. buffs then any of them work
You can take a look at the pinned document in #1009587872342478908 for some Lucky Skill recommendations
Ok
So all healing moves heal more with the ally healing down now with this last update? First Aid 4 seems to heal completely. Not sure what actually changed now
Hmm
Apologies I had school lel I’d say Prolly Lapras as she also offers shields with her max move and also has sing to stall turns
Hmm i see
(I’d recommend grabbing troublemaker lucky skill@if you can)
Im done tho
Oh lel
Im doing the foghting weakness one
Fighting if Phoebe Nanu bea isn’t working I’d recommend hmm
Can u show how to use?
Sure
Yea thnx
(this was way easier than when I initially did it I think had my 2K params last time)
Everyone but Nanu is gridless he has fast track and screech charging infliction
I hope I get 3/5 Bea before the Galar VA 
Oh wow I’m shocked you don’t have her 3/5
In my experience bruno + Korrina is still a very consistent fighting week duo
I used Hop as the support in the past but my is MGR reliant lel
Dm me this vid as im going to sleep rn
Kk
Any tips for 2k master mode karen?
You the GOAT @frosty axle took me an 1HR of reset. It worked out in the end 💪 😁
Fighting type with some accuracy like MC Solgaleo
either bring a strong nuker so you don't have to worry about evasion check, or raise your own accuracy. don't postsync if you can, karen just gets nastier with x evasion all
gratz 👍
Serena too stronk
rookie numbers

Rookie numbers, where's the 999,999
Gib me Redlax or Jampharos 
Bruh i'd donate you my 5/5 redlax if i could
I thought I had priority for redlax donations
Why 5/5 Red?
Wow being called a whale when I'm f2p is the highest honor I can get
I got 2/5 from his debut and when he reran in a joint banner with CBlue I pulled again hoping for dupes. Guess who showed up to 5/5 and who never came
lol
Had to candy my CBlue to 3/5 smh
that was me when the train bros reran, didn't have either, got Ingo to 4/5 but I got him 3 times in one multi and had to pity Emmet 
Lesson learned: no matter what other featured units there are, I am NEVER pulling on a banner that features Red ever again
Cleared my first 10K MM 😍😍 it was pretty satisfying!!!
Congrats 
Thanks ☺️
Congrats, it gets easier as you get stronger
Well maybe not for the hard trio of Sinnoh, Hoenn, and Kalos lol
Kalos debuting next week right?
Yup
Is it harder than other regions?
Same level as Hoenn
Remember to type clear Kalos in the first two week
And watch out because we can’t reset before getting the type medal
Got 10k finally just had to offtype koga with ghetsis
Nice mate. Now let's try for 15 types next week.
Oops wrong chat...
In 2nd week u can reset after getting all the medals to play MM right?
Yup
Yeap
honestly im just hoping hard mode kalos be easy
what kind of sync grid r you using ??
What's the but part?
Here
It's hard mode, it should be fine
Hard mode should be the least of our worries 
and yet, you know who will struggle
So...I am pretty new, couldn't beat Hoenn on Hard but I have been breezing through Johto, and my rosters are much improved. How scared should I be of Kalos next week?
Quite similar to Hoeen on paper, you've mentioned your rosters has improved since, if you're planning to tackle hard mode only
I'd say you should be fine and if you're struggling you can always come here to get suggestions
Thanks, I appreciate it! I want to one day do Master Mode but I don't have a diverse enough roster to get all the types to clear yet (...normal, I'm looking at you...)
Cheryl???
no MM next week 😔
If a stage is easy enough for you and you have an overpowered unit of that stage weakness bringing a normal type just for the sake of it is always an option lol
you can always carry scrubs to unlock MM, most people do that
Hard Mode is a lie
besides, this is not like event missions where you need to avoid a certain amount of units from fainting
There is no way to unlock MM in 1 week
beating the stage and filling the types is all there is to it, and again, you can just come here and ask for advice to pull it off
I struggle at Lance but would love to get 2k points with him to finish 9,5k
any team idea?`the team above just doesn't kill him fast enough and post sync impossible because palkia dies
Um….your team doesn’t fully work?
even with full health
Take out Anni Lillie
Cyrus can be the damage dealer.
I guess Skyla can be the third option?
Skyla, cyrus, shit no swimsuit misty
Having both skyla and swimsuit misty makes it easy to last
Because of the stupid crithit defense
Okay?
can just bring lisia
Is Crit Shield that much of a problem? 
to some people yes
when they don't presync and lack dps to muscle through it, it is a bit of an issue
and yeah, Cyrus does get hurt a ton if no crits
I guess if it is an issue, then use Lisia instead of Sycamore
But Skyla isn’t EX, is she?
I can make her ex
I would have suggested aaron but i dont think he cuts it at 1/5
She’s a good investment, may as well.
Man I just spent far too long fiddling with Iris then switched to Clair and won first try 
Or maybe grid leaf and use her and skyla
Sycamore Cyrus and Elio
They’d compete for sync…
Can’t crit shield if you beat them first
I would say to use 2 units with potion to outlast the crit shield and then would have a 3 on sync move so cyrus can one shot sides
Nah, just use Elio
What would Elio be for, might I ask?
Sleep, presumably

Crit shield means you don’t have two damage turns you usually have
So you take them back 

You got a point
And since lance moves are special elio would also buff special defense
But sing has to land
90% with troublemaker
Wait troublemaker increases accuracy of status?
Yes
I thought it was just used for things like lick
Troublemaker doesn’t affect lick sadly
That’s its sole purpose, Hostile Environment is what affects secondary effects
elio might be quite good, due the buff cyrus also get 1 more attack in
but sadly, cannot grid troublemaker since he is ml 1
It’s a lucky skill
oh
Isn't Troublemaker from the Crunchy cookies?
Even if it isn’t, 45% isn’t bad. You’re not trying to sleep chain just interrupt

Urgh thanks the two pink emojis look the same to me

Acerola is another option with a one bar interrupt

Acerola good with two tiles
1/5?
Yes
Oh snap
crit shield doesn't get stopped by sleep...
damn, everything worked out so well this run and then sing hits... and crit shield still happens lmao
The point is not to stop crit shield, it’s to use sing as much as possible before then
oh.
Rend -> Syc tm -> sing -> Rend -> dazzle
Only then the opponent moves
So you get five moves instead of 3
crit shield is basically a TM, so you can't stop it
Not to stop the shield but to stop lance from attacking during the shield
but you can delay it, as Aurochs says
should I use bonus to status con?
We should have probably told you this too
all good, was my mistake
Ideally there is no crit shield because Lance is already gone
But of course having sides sleep is always a good backup!
3 extra turns due sleep, still not able to kill him with Palkia alone
how RNG depended is that run?
I would assume it’s moderately RNG-influenced
Since Air Slash isn’t guaranteed flinch
I gave up and settled for 9k, thx for the help still 
Lisia is still the braindead choice and you didn't try her, ingame tips also suggested her
pretty sure I would've failed with her as well
I don't see how, even with post sync clear, she also doesn't need investment, 1/5 is enough to clear shield and spam twister to flinch
I actually need to learn how to use Lisia.
shes easy to use
before i got any dragon support i used to tank with her 
With Elio, I got 4 more turns and it still didn't work, I bet Lisia wouldn't change a thing except being annoying that the flinch doesn't occur when needed
flinch is the last thing you need or when you fail to quadqueue, mostly she is used to clear shield so cyrus can kill before they sync
the shield is one turn before sync ...
then use an extra turn to clear then cyrus sync
It didn't worked out for me
clearly you did something wrong, i wouldn't said so if I haven't tested her. Others might try to suggest many teams, i only suggest the most braindead team base on the user's roster
Good for you
but you already cleared so
just remember to test her next time
I wonder if you reduced the sync move countdown…
also post sync clear also works with everyone alive, if your cyrus die then you probably used his tm, sycamore already buffed speed and spatk for him
pressure cooker passive exists
When it does work lol
Flinch did not work for me
I have her 4/5 used her sycamore and skyla did not work
She got KO by first sync lol
Wait why that team??
Or did you do Cyrus, Lisia and Sycamore/Skyla?
Lisia sycamore and skyla
weird team, it should works but very slow cause lisia dmg is non-existence 
Lisia’s damage is awful, especially since Cyrus exists.
The team we were talking about is Sycamore/Skyla, Lisia and Cyrus.
not that great of a team but it's johto, can use anyone 
Rain Clair go brrrr
Lisia as your main damage dealer in general just sounds unnecessarily long winded,
yeah she can't presync clear but her dmg still enough for early region CS 
Sycamore/Skyla Cyrus, lisia should have a lot less trouble and be less finicky.
i know, just want to test that weird team above 
Lisia power boost when?
Next year's concert
When Karen’s sync dealt 1K (:
oh wait, hang on, that's Will's sync and Karen's Umbreon, nvm then
you are gonna enjoy getting hit by syncs in Kalos CS, they have multipliers everywhere!
Why hard mode?
They made me invest cs2 into Karen smh my head
huh? what did you have before?
I know you hate Gauntlet but at least run an auto team 
Paint
I’m curious what are others opinions on gradual healing parameter? I have always hated it and I think it makes the battle much harder than if u were to use that 150 on something else. Thoughts?
hmm, it's free points for me tbh, but that's coming from having strong units that don't care they heal back a little bit
I also have always hated it
Tbh it’s why I’ve always just ran strength 12
you are memeing with 3k battles now tho
I do ye but I only take it cause it’s that or crit shields
lel
But it still feels like it ruins my runs
my dumb self would pick Attack & Special Attack 5 instead 
You have to pick it lel
or maybe HP 4 since again, strong pairs
You have to be grab pretty much every param except crit shield for 3K it’s so pain
I hope we get more params
you do, if you want 3k stuff, not for the regular folk going for 2k tops
Oh true
I prefer pre sync clears, where the amount of bulk they get from healing is negligible
I’ve got “PTSD” from losing when j was new from grad healing and now I cry
yeah, for Aaron is a must so you don't have to worry about bringing a unit for that
and Kalos has another stage with that passive
Can’t wait for them to give a stage rough skin 4
I agree I don’t mind it either when I’m using op teams that can “ignore” it, but for closer battles I just feel like gradual healing causes way more trouble than the 150 points is worth and I disagree that they recommend it for pre sync params
If it’s like actual gradual healing, it should just be 8 turns (not that most cs battles last long enough for them to get off 8 Pokémon moves)
I don’t mind gradual healing, because I don’t take no stat reduction since I love my debuffers lol
Same
Gradual healing is free points for me, I’d be very annoyed with 150 more strength or whatever.
Gradual healing and strength are usually my go tos for pre sync
Attack + defense up is usually a scam
I use it but why does it never run out
same reason their damage shields are also permanent
Gradual healing runs out though
guess those battles just don't last enough 
and it's been ages since last time I stalled a stage
Can anyone help me make a team for this?
Here are my 5stars and 4 stars
I can't use these sync pairs cause that's what I used to beat the first 4
Alright
Does this person have Dauntless on their Zinnia?
Can do outrage if not.
Zinnia Acerola Hop my OG Zinnia team
Is probably the only parameter that actually gives you a bit of advantage, since the Regen animation helps with gauge, and for presync, that Regen isn't a big deal
Maybe sync countdown -3 can give you an advantage too if you are about to one shot the stage with the sync, so the mid will use the trainer move instead of using another attack (however in some cases it may be a problem, if it uses something like crit shield)
In general, gradual healing is much more recommended for new players compared to sync countdown. I've never had issues with gradual healing
If you're one-shotting stages with first sync you're generally not really that fussed with parameters
Your units should still survive by the time you reach sync
Maybe by picking sync -3 you can let the opponent use a scripted worthless TM instead of maybe something like an earthquake
Could anyone possibly send a video of them beating dark mode champion stadium 2k with masked royale, hop, Drednaw/nessa
Using pre sync conditions or honestly whatever
The tricky part is hoping Hop doesn’t die. His spdef is pretty weak here.
The smart person would grid wise entry. As you can see, I am not such a person.
as I just said
Just don't use that No stat reduction parameter as we told before, and yeah, gridding Wise Entry on Hop is a good idea
I’m reasonably convinced not taking ally healing down would be good too.
A more alive Hop is worth it. As you can see from my video I cleared with a whole round to spare.
You can also guarantee quadqueue by gridding Adrenaline and syncing with Hop, which is fine becuase MR and Nessa will clean house.
Y’know, I wish there’s a F2P Support that can raise both Atk and Sp Df, that would honestly be helpful for times like this.
Thank you so much
Oh I kinda forgot about Elio too
Anyone have any challenge ideas for me I want something very difficult
All strength and health parameters? Not difficult but fun.
That’s smth j already do kinda lel
im having trouble with lance, trying to quadqueue but he has that damn crit hit defense 
Do you have sycamore Ex and Winona available ?
Oh do you have any other ex support available
If you’re struggling with quad queue there’s pins and if you have any supports with adrenaline those as well
ye i have skyla, rosa, leaf and lyra available for ex's
If you can flinch spam the stage you can buy yourself a cycle and can get you to hopefully beat the stage before he uses crit shields
Leaf Cyrus winona
does the flinch rotation go middle>right>middle>left or something else
Yes it does go like that
Queue flinch last
But if the center is still flinching when rigjr is flinched it’ll go from middle to left instead
And then center right again
So let’s say this cause SSLyra is an easy example lel
Center -> right -> middle/left -> whoever’s not flinching anymore so likely middle but sometimes it’s the right Mon -> left -> center -> right
Paying attention to their flinch timer is important
ok thanks
Watch thegamingeevee video to sync b4 crit Shield comes up. That's what I did.
https://youtu.be/piHlF0tBz5Y
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Is it weird to be excited for kalos when it's actually hard
hardly. A challenge is always exciting
Is there something I should change for this?
It seems so
I'm trying to do Koga next and flying is a massive issue. Is there any good options?
How many
do you have?
Too many to count
Try running Kahili with Skyla and Lysandre
Last I knew like 40k and almost everyone has their grid to some degree.
The toucan? I always get that mixed up with the fairy one.
Yep. That’s the one
That is why I asked!

Is there a specific grid I should use?
Should I sync with Kahili or Lysander?
Yep. Helps lysandre cleans up sides too
Mid resists special attacks, well the sides resist physical attacks. That’s why we recommend Kahili nuke here.
Definitely going to keep her on hand to increase to 5 star.
If she’s someone you enjoy using, it’s a good investment,
Something wrong with me
I still can’t beat 2k with the same comp I was using as the person in video
Same moves and I’m doing more Damage
What specifically is going wrong?
I get two hits away from killing middle guy before dying by sync. Or I kill him and then right after one of the sides eventually kills me
Got as far as 2 hits left on 1 side guy left
do you possibly have to many atk up params or power on hit?
I see
What stage and fight is this I feel I am missing context are you fighting will with MR Hop and Nessa?
Consider trying post-Sync (replacing “No Stat Reductions” with “Max HP ^ 2”) if you’re unable to KO before the opponent Syncs
Because if so Mr and Nessa kinda want debuffs for some of their kits I know Aurochs beat it without but I feel with debuffs it'll be much easier
Oh, wait
And is it possible you can grid either nessa or Mr I am aware they can clear without it but It would offer an easier time or give them cs2 if they do not have it already
If you’ve been spamming Darkest Lariat you can also try using Brutal Swing instead
So that the sides can get KOed faster once you KO the center
It also sounds like you are struggling with quad queuing unfortunately Hop's freevenge can prevent it at times in which you could aim for side denial which I know Mr's sync even non ex can either kill them or get close meaning you can kill them with nessa buying you another turn for DPS which accomplishes the same thing as quad queuing but do not have to rely on the rng aspect of it
I also kinda just assumed that is what you were talking about if is not could you tell us which stage cause you left it very vague
This is why I suggested syncing with Adrenaline Hop
in Aurochs video they didn't quadqueue and beat mid with sheer jaw lock power alone
Yeah ur right im using hop, nessa, and MR, and I have been doing it without the stat reduction condition
Yeah idk how that jaw lock was so strong
Restrain power up moment
Well as you can see from the video aurochs sent, it's doable with no stat reduction on
With a turn to spare what a unit
Taking it off and actually debuffing with MR makes things much easier
Yeah it made things easier but I still can’t win
Did Hop get TM MPR? Nessa wants the max crit
Yeah
Screenshots would be best, yes
Along with Mr
I'll be honest whenever I run MR and Nessa I just focus my crit buffs on Nessa and let MR just do debuffs. If he crits, good, if he doesn't, it's not the end of the world
Nessa is enough to clean house 
True his sync can be dumb at times with ex he doesn’t even need to crit to kill mid lel
Mine's sitting at 2/5 
1/5 Nessa should still work, just get all her jaw lock tiles
Yeah that’s what I did
Did you triplequeue consistently? And did you manage to quadqueue too?
Yeah I triplequed as fast as possible
IMO ditch the Behemoth Bash MGR, Hop is only using that move if he has Freevenge up
Like every time I could do a move I was on it
What is the level of your units?
140+
Oh, quick thing then:
During your 3rd round of moves, are you waiting for your Sync to become available before queueing moves again?
So move order should be
- Sync
- Move on unit 2
- Move on unit 3
Sync should always be first
Nah I don’t wait, I still queue
That’s at least some of your trouble
That's where you could try to fix your queues
Did you attempt side denial?
Size denial?
Watch this again and see how Aurochs waited to queue MR's sync, and then nessa and hop
When you target the left most mon and kill them to buy you some time
Ahhh I gotta kill the middle before sync tho
I’ll try to save sync this time
I swear I’ve done it 40 times
You kill mid before their sync, and by queueing like this, you don't waste any sync countdown on your end
Let's not worry about side denial right now
Something like this
It helps prevent the need of having to quad queue and gets one of the sides off the board
ik you probably just ungridded mr to prove a point but that hurts
Because that's a more complex technique. They should learn to queue sync correctly first
In this situation j feel it would net them an easier fight
It wouldn't, in your fight they got the +2spatk off
tbf everyone sucks at some point. that's why we're here
in my fight they didn't
I’m sure I probably could’ve also denied the right side but I didn’t bother I was in a rush doing it lel
Also my Mr was already ungrudded before I selected this fight idk why but he was lel
pathetic
That's because MR is unnecessary, Nessa can actually do it on her own 
why do you hurt me like this
exactly. MR is great for his debuffs and AOE speed
but Nessa can clean house on her own
I love the Nessa appreciation hours we're having here 
of course!
Yes
Also you have 48 hours
That’s plenty of time let’s not add unnecessary pressure lel
Can take a break if needed 
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT 
Oh lel
I never uploaded my Johto on Johto run! 
🐴
I still haven’t sent it, cuz I keep failing so horrible
Well if you don’t send your failure attempts we can’t see what you’re doing wrong
I thought that’s why you wanted too lel
Ik this doesn’t play much of a factor at all but, just curious, what speed do you have ur battles at?
If you are struggling I would suggest using a lower speed so you can time what you’re doing initially
No like it’s me failing failing cuz I clicked wrong move or didn’t click something else
Idk
I’m frustrated as fuck
The game is too fast for you slow your game speed down
Yeah
Looks like it's the sync delay thing others brought up earlier
But very impressive speed
Also I swear speed 3 is not that fast for me 🥔
Did they show what params they’re using?
also you’re losing a lot of damage by not maxing crit
No but they almost won despite losing Hop to bad luck so a decent enough param set
They maxed crit?
they also didnt use her tm
Ah I see. Well, it was a very unlucky run. Two Jynx Psychics is like a 12.5% chance.
They’d also didn’t triple queue first turn
Mmm yeah the way it’s being done won’t work out too well
Try using all the TMs first then start using Jaw Lock and Brutal Swing
Oh wth i guess I was focused to much on smth else lel
If Hop gets MP Refresh then use his TM until MR gets max atk and crit
If they can sync on time, they'll win
And if psychic is used, restart the battle cos Hop will basically die to it
If you watch my video, you can see how I don't queue moves after the third round
I got orbs I’ll try that
wise entry helps but it's not the end of the world if you don't have it
just get lucky
the most important part is how you queue your moves on the cycle you're about to sync
We're up all night to get lucky 
oh maybe the reason why i cant presync 99% of the time is cuz i always end up queueing extra shit by accident
That’s an old song the user base here might not have heard it before
the pains of playing on 3x speed permanently
Yeah I’m ngl I never not do 3 time speed
The game is way too slow on the other speeds for me I physically can’t put myself through that
Speed 2 is where it's at
coming from a solo enthusiast like you, I can see that
I used to play at 1x speed all the time but now I've ramped it up to 2
only play at 1x speed for the first cycle to triple queue. my fingers aren't fast enough to triplequeue at 2x speed sometimes 
I always play at x1 speed for the first cycle then play at x3 for the rest
x1 speed first cycle, then x2 or x3 for the triple queueing, and then x2 for quad queueing
i think i’ve played 3x so much that triple queueing on 3x is pretty easy for me
quad queuing 3x is 💀though
I find it easier
love it when i miss 4 attacks in a row on +2 evasion
i mean on latias ur not under the threat of instantly dying to sync
either way you reset
and I'd much rather reset CS than LA battles
Hop only having tm MPR 2 my beloved
prime candidate for Team Sharp Entry 1, and they love to hand that out these days lol
I hope so plz give him like Barricade buddies too
What happens when you try and be fancy and deny this side
The true Nessa play is six chomps, straight down the middle
I don’t think doing side deny is too fancy lel
It’s how I usually beat dark week when I didn’t have Ex Furburt which is a majority of this games life span but that doesn’t matter
Furburt being as strong as he is feels apparent now that I’m using Nessa
Does sirfetchd need help setting up? I only have him at 1/5
needs +1 crit, and ideally someone to help either for attack or speed, just because Bea has all those TMs doesn't mean you have to fully rely on them
So maybe pairing it with Kiawe and swanna?
Sure
yeah, sounds fine
he is a straightforward striker
like, there is nothing special about him
He combusts after one dark@ move!!
He has one of the more creative names of any pair
This game is so good
Roark moments
Had wronf grid
I need CS2 🐴
I still haven't won a BP Karen f2p run without something dumb like winning with Sycamore
I’ve won with BPKaren F2P usimg@hop and Nanu
Nice work
(It was pain)
I had to screech the side 3 times so she could one shot it and die then flinch spam left
my guy rampardos looking like he used final gambit 😭
you need his grid, Soon™️
With Nanus new grid, BP Karen, hop and Nanu should be quite comfortable right?
Cannot come soon enough
Not against will because of sentry entry 4 hating fun
Unless@you run def crush Nanu
Defence crush doesn't trigger from status moves
It works on bite spam
Which I use him for lel
Also helps against the sides too
Which j hate
It's a very reliable clear now with Nanus grid
No need of flinches
Wait you're clearing using Nanu without flinches?
With BP Karen mainly
No external healing for BP Karen is actually required
Did grid her with first aid just in case
But not required I think.
Interesting ty
Just that BP Karen has been getting all the hate ever since she came out even when there were no options other than Furbert and regular Karen
Well your double denial plan is quite innovative too
I honestly try to clear the same way for all CS battles without sync countdown -2 since there's no need for quad queuing
Not really good at that
Maybe even DeNA meant that in the battle tips when they said get rid of the sides first and then the center
Kalos next week?
death 🫠
Thankfully its only hard mode.
Yeah so don’t forget to type clear these first two weeks
Nice turn denial
Woooooo 
I'm looking forward to it
Going to be a fun week
Last stadium release I cleared each stage with a fire-water-grass trio. Good fun, I recommend.
f2p trios too
I don't mind teambuilding based on types and having to carry units because that's just LG planning in a nutshell
But missing out on MM rewards 
I need to restock my EX resources after LG drained me
Yeah. Funny thing is that the first few LGs had a net negative on cookies for me personally
LG drained me of so many things. My EX resources, my lucky cookies, my life force. But enough about that, time for Kalos CS to replenish my spirit
Just wish Kalos CS doesn't have too many AOE wipes pre sync
i never knew how much I needed blissful Bonanza after doing this lg
Yeah. Totally understand
Run out of spirits? Wow. That's good use of resources
Initially didn't EX that regularly and the spirits just stay in abundance after that
Same, I think every hoenn stage had one
Or atleast one stage of each e4
True. They just made things inconvenient
One day I’ll beat this mode
It could be today 
Yeah. Hard mode is very much doable
And can set for like 7500 pts or 4200 pts initially
I think they're trying 2k
Oh sorry. Then yeah. Better do it today itself
Coz once Kalos starts things are going to be a bit more complicated
Yeah I’m tryna get dark mode still
I’m straight up doing what people told me to do, and what was done in videos and nothing working
Plus now my guys just aren’t getting their trainer moves refreshed at all almost like there’s a bug
Bro think the game is just messed up
It won’t refresh any TM’s
Oh, by spirit I didn't mean my 
I don't think I'll ever run out of those lol
Luck issue. Happens a lot more often than you think
That and him getting psychic every fuckin round
Too much patience lmao. I’ve played this thing like 40 times
Anyone else have a suggestion for a support pair that doesn’t die from 2 hits or 1 psychic
Another one of me just getting close again
Final-funkily
@everyone who was tryna help me the other day
Fuckingly*
Damn dragon was easy
i see Water Weak Malva
for weak 129
Fairy Weak hum.
Fighting Weak
that Grass Weak will be my end
Isigh
Congrats! So you did beat CS 
Yuhhh
After 40 tries on dark mode lmao
Could have used the greeninja
If I had him
MR/Nessa works wonders. You'll get used to it





