Champion Stadium

[keen jasper]

Max HP and max offensive params

[swift swan]

jeez

how's it going with cynthia, mina users?

I haven't attempted CS

I'm getting more worried ngl

[static kettle]

SS Steven makes offtype 2k very funny

[vital gazelle]

does round 4 special param include flinch?

[toxic cobalt]

What is it?

Can't check right now

Need someone to rewrite #1009554906568462476 message

[vital gazelle]

status conditions and other conditions deal more damage, are more likely, last longer

i assume it doesn't include flinch

but other conditions piqued my interest

[toxic cobalt]

I don't think so, flinch is powered by "additional effects"

[vital gazelle]

ok ty

[toxic cobalt]

Usually status "conditions" is separate from status "change"

[vital gazelle]

time to try lorelei freeze hacks round 4 then

just for fun

unless that isn't included either

[trail smelt]

Huh

Didn’t expect all of my teams this week to be one and done

Not even my ICE team, where I was a dumbass and accidentally made SSteven the first target LMAO. Thankfully Glacia could make the enemy switch targets.

Ready for next week though I’m iffy on my Steel and Dragon teams haha

Trying something different for psychic weak

[keen jasper]

I mono-ed Bertha using EX Glacia, EX Ghetsis and Candice

[swift swan]

R1: When a Pokemon faints, debuffs stats for everyone on that team
R2: Physical attack moves are powered up
R3: Field effects are permanent
R4: Status conditions and other conditions are more effective
R5: Stat-lowering effects are more effective

parameters this week, can probably be pinned?

R2 will be tricky... almost every stage this week is mixed

Don't fight Bertha R2 though, I'm pretty confident about that

but Aaron, Flint, and Lucian all have some hard-hitting physical moves too

[toxic cobalt]

YEESSSSS

PERMANENT FIELD EFFECTS

Aaron has no chance

[swift swan]

ok I seriously don't know who to recommend for r2 now lmao

all 4 stages have nasty, 3-gauge physical moves

[toxic cobalt]

Cynthia

lol you're right R2 is pain

Maybe Lucian and hope for rng

[trail smelt]

I just gave it to Bertha lol

Err wait hold on

[dark osprey]

I think flint is mainly special. Maybe wrong

[trail smelt]

Yep it was Bertha

[keen jasper]

I used it for Bertha

[swift swan]

sure crit close combat postsync says hi

[swift swan]

Flint himself is fully physical this week

[trail smelt]

Hmm

[swift swan]

alright, I eventually fought Aaron r2. SS Gio three-tapping the stage was hilarious

[trail smelt]

Come to think of it

Making Aaron round 4 might have been dumb lol

But he never landed a status effect

[keen jasper]

SS Gio's Max Quake casually hits 76k damage with EX sync buff

[vital gazelle]

round 2 lucian piss easy

just did triple regional birds - staraptor 2/5 / pidgeot 5/5 / swellow 1/5

darach EX, but don't think it matters

i think lucian round 2 is solid to recommend

[prime warren]

Oh god wise entry on cynthia and flint

[trail smelt]

I mean

Flint

[old orchid]

my team for Lucian was EX Falkner Blue and Kahilo

[keen jasper]

SS Wally will still absolutely annihilate her

[swift swan]

ok Flint, try not to use Flare Blitz first turn challenge

[prime warren]

Thats the fun thing

[swift swan]

I need Hilbert to not get two-shotted, thank you

[old orchid]

hmm Flint has Wise Entry ?

[prime warren]

I don't have SSwally

Dedge did more than hyper beam

[trail smelt]

I guess if your only rock option is CBlue

[old orchid]

lel the only Rock special move in the game rn is Power Gem lel

[trail smelt]

Flint might be annoying

[swift swan]

hyper beam blue exists

[old orchid]

wait Rock Shift Hyper Beam

[prime warren]

Well blue has dedge as well

[swift swan]

Oliva can do the job

[old orchid]

and his sync is physical

[prime warren]

Cynthia is pain

[swift swan]

I just need Hilbert to uh, get his support EX sync in

[prime warren]

Had to bring gladion

[old orchid]

^

use her

[swift swan]

FLINT CAN YOU NOT START WITH FLARE BLITZ

[prime warren]

Mine is not 5* and no SSwally

[trail smelt]

If their only rock option is CBlue

Anyway MReg took flare blitz like a champ lol

Let Hildiancie crush everyone with no worry

I was most worried for fairy weak Cynthia this week

But Physical fire team smashed her down hard phew

[prime warren]

SSred couldn't clear cynthia

[trail smelt]

Naw man

[prime warren]

Tho my team is outdated

[trail smelt]

I used this beauty of a team haha

[swift swan]

whew, Hilbert finally lived long enough to get support EX sync in

[swift swan]

it's easier to offtype cynthia with a physical team than to ontype her with genpool pairs at this point lol

[trail smelt]

I am definitely not monotyping Fairy until Sycamore gets his upgrade lol

Please Crit focus 3

[swift swan]

[old orchid]

just get Spring Burgh

[swift swan]

he reruns at what possibly is the busiest months the year

alright, on to cynthia now

[trail smelt]

Spring Burgh WHERE

[vital gazelle]

faitlin on round 3 feels so nice

no gauge issues whatsoever

[lost gulch]

this cs is relatively easier

[vital gazelle]

yeah

[trail smelt]

Infinite field effect makes Faitlin shine so hard lol

[swift swan]

the amount of times SS Lyra missed her grassy glide at -1 accuracy is... astounding

alright, at least I managed to bring Mina to hall of fame today

I just gridded her a week ago maybe

[nimble shell]

Sinnoh CS is really something else

After getting 3 Anni to 3/5 ex tgt with ssgio and ssmorty

Nvr struggle in cs like this before

[trail smelt]

Vs who?

[spring fable]

What order should I fight them? Hard mode

[vital gazelle]

lorelei sweep

minced bertha

[formal vigil]

[swift swan]

Save R3 for either Bertha or Flint

what move level is Falkner? his 3/5 Quick Tempo is really good for R3

none of your teams rely on status conditions so R4 doesn't really matter. I guess don't go for Aaron R4 because of that cross poison but imo it's not that bad

[spring fable]

Falkner is 2/5

[swift swan]

ah

also I just noticed

Aaron wants status change

at hard mode you can't grab the gradual healing parameter to turn off Acute Senses yet

[spring fable]

Can reset for paralysis

[swift swan]

without status change that'll be a 50% damage reduction

status change and status condition are different

[spring fable]

Ah

[swift swan]

Status change are things like flinch, trap, restrain, confusion, gradual healing, rebuff, etc etc

[spring fable]

I’ll try Aaron first

[swift swan]

Bertha would be nice against Aaron because of her trap and weather

she's recommended for Aaron in the tips iirc

remember that Aaron hits harder when no weather is in effect

[old orchid]

all E4 stages this week use mostly physical moves lel

and there is physical move up param

[vital gazelle]

yea that's the r2 param

lucian took 0 effort that round, might be a good choice for it

[swift swan]

idk, he has close combat and drain punch that might do numbers

and then left side spams bulldoze once mid dies

[vital gazelle]

just fly 4head

[swift swan]

imo just fight R2 with whoever physical striker you're most confident with. I fought Aaron R2 and SS Gio three-tapped the stage

[vital gazelle]

darach is fantastic there

debuffs Atk

and strong nuke if 2/5

[formal vigil]

Yeah I used darach too he was pretty good

[vital gazelle]

• free 150 points via crit defence param

defog

[spring fable]

Okie Aaron down

[trail smelt]

What happened there

[swift swan]

murder

guess Acute Senses 4 ain't enough to stop Ash

not like a lot of things can stop Ash

[vital gazelle]

i also forgot to mega pidgeot and still cleared comfortably lmao

[swift swan]

what

[vital gazelle]

yeah, i nuked with darach both times by accident

[swift swan]

and here I thought that was a DPS Blue, nuke Darach team

[vital gazelle]

and brave bird on darach is strong

sides are paper thin

[trail smelt]

That didn’t look like Murder

That looked like barely winning

[chilly sparrow]

hello its my first time to finish a medal, do we have a guide here on how to do master mode?

[trail smelt]

You already have the type medal?

Then you can reset and start master mode immediately

[chilly sparrow]

yep i just got the 18 medals and unlocked the master mode, i saw about pointing system and just want to ask here for a guide reference about master mode

[vital gazelle]

i ended up just going for air slash flinches with blue since i forgot lol

[spring fable]

Should I be doing Bertha r2? Ghetsis keeps getting wrecked

[swift swan]

Bertha is fully physical. I don't recommend that, especially because Falkner isn't a defensive support

besides your team doesn't benefit anything from R2 unless you're nuking with Candice

don't give your opponent an advantage that you can't take advantage of yourself

[vital gazelle]

you could try bertha r4 @spring fable

glaciate freeze hax

you should have cold snap gridded either way

[swift swan]

generally for starters, 4.2k is a comfortable spot in Master Mode because that's where the good rewards stop at. The pinned params have a general 850 points recommendation. 850 isn't much more difficult than Hard Mode -- if anything, Hard Mode can usually be harder since you have to carry types. Of course, the pins only serve as a guide. While there are parameters that we recommend to almost always take, there are those that you can switch around. For example, if your team requires status condition, take off the "No Status Condition" parameter (which we normally recommend) and replace i with something else. Usually the best replacement is Strength

[sick stump]

oh I think I'm an idiot then I did Bertha R2 for increased Holleon DPS 💀

[trail smelt]

To be fair evidently everyone is very physical this week

[chilly sparrow]

thank you, I will look into it and try to aim at the 4.2k mark if i will be able to complete. in master mode, weak type is a must?

[vital gazelle]

r2 depends on where your best physical attacker is going

for most

it's the most problematic parameter this wk

[swift swan]

using super effective moves are recommended yes, but sometimes if you have very powerful pairs, offtyping is a good option if your ontype options are lacking

[swift swan]

which is saying something, since I remember a time when we had half sync countdown 6 weeks in a row

[swift swan]

I mean that's still a good idea since Leon can take advantage of the param too, as long as your tank can handle Bertha's hard-hitting moves

[vital gazelle]

half sync countdown sucks

[swift swan]

all stages have powerful physical moves this week, so there's really no guaranteed "don't do xxx this round" rule this week

[vital gazelle]

requires unfun levels of bulk/dps or just postsync params

but i'd recommend r4 bertha @spring fable

helps with freeze - iirc

[spring fable]

Okie round 2 Lucian

R3 flint then

R4 Bertha

[swift swan]

imo fight R2 with a physical team too

if not, then you're only giving your opponents a lot of advantages while you don't have any edge yourself

What move level is Olivia? she might appreciate the R2 param to do more damage

Lord knows non-EX Olivia requires a lot of practice to use against Flint

especially if no EX support

[summer flare]

Am I tripping or is Sinnoh much harder than other regions?

[full mesa]

Worst MM ever. Had to off type all 5 battles.

[full mesa]

It's the epitome of difficulty

[swift swan]

don't worry, it's pretty much objectively acknowledged that Sinnoh is the hardest

[sick stump]

had SSMorty to clear weather so yeah

[swift swan]

I spent months hating on Sinnoh when it first dropped but I found myself missing the dopamine and frustration it brings. It feels great to take revenge now

[summer flare]

I managed to do 10k, but flying weak forced my hand into offtyping

[full mesa]

Revenge yes. All the others no

[summer flare]

I tried to on type with darach

[full mesa]

You're good if only Lucian did that. Had to off type everything.

[summer flare]

But he didn't deal nearly enough to take the center

[swift swan]

I never felt Flying-weak to be that hard. Blue cleared it for me just fine last time

I did have to postsync though

[summer flare]

I could have tried post sync on it

Ended up with presync on all 5

[full mesa]

Had to use Volkner and Zeus'rodents for Cynthia.

[dark osprey]

has anyone tried Kahili, weather support & Zinnia for lucian?

[summer flare]

Round 1 was sydney Hilbert and BP morty

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message I'm not too proud of my Cynthia team either lol

[dark osprey]

Zinnia was supposed to be the answer to flying weak stages

[full mesa]

I'm lucky we had perma field. SSACynthiaEX and BeaEx saved the day.

[swift swan]

hmmm not sure about that

[summer flare]

Round 2 flint was Sonia, Bertha and Emmet

[full mesa]

After 2 syncs my Kahili would only hit for 18k. Couldn't drop mid.

[summer flare]

Round 3 Aaron was Ingo, Courtney and Cynthia

[dark osprey]

oh. maybe the super command thing may be needed i guess

[summer flare]

Round 4 Bertha was SS Kris, Ghetsis and Lucian

Then Cynthia was beaten by Hop, BP clemont and gladion

[full mesa]

Yes. With SEUN she can do it.

[dark osprey]

nice

[summer flare]

Bp clemont shredding defense helped nuke the middle

[full mesa]

Used a similar team on Bertha.

[swift swan]

pretty sure Kahili was used quite a lot for Flying-weak Lucian back when we had Sinnoh the first time

[full mesa]

SkylaEx/Kahili and something to give SEUN.

[swift swan]

but I don't know if anyone's tried using Zinnia yet

[dark osprey]

Mina is always chill

[full mesa]

I don't have the sanity to try ZinniaMRayEx

[dark osprey]

i meant the SEUN on Kahilis grid tbh

[full mesa]

My mina would hit for 18k after 2 sync buffs. No SSLyraEx tho.

[swift swan]

mine did 26k with SEUP

[full mesa]

Didn't thought of that.

[full mesa]

Don't have that.

[swift swan]

I used SS Lyra for flinches and took the perma field effects basically

[summer flare]

I wonder if Darach would have done enough if he had EX

[swift swan]

also she can raise Mina's attack

[dark osprey]

ah thats what I was wondering

[swift swan]

@summer flare I mean, there's this clear

[full mesa]

Had to use mine with Sycamore and tech Blastoise for Bertha.

[dark osprey]

buffs would have been slightly slow for Mina

[summer flare]

He had EX there

[full mesa]

Anyway. I'm off. Talk to you later.

[swift swan]

yeah, I don't have Fairy zone for Mina, and Red can't buff Mina's attack quickly enough. Plus both of them are slow, and my attack + speed supports are already occupied... SS Lyra it is

[summer flare]

Might EX him soon, but now I have a bazillion EX targets

[swift swan]

see you!

[tribal agate]

oh god is it the weak where i have to pressure people to use Mina

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message are you proud of me dreamy

[summer flare]

I got so much stuff these last few days that I don't know how to spend my ex resources anymore

[swift swan]

last week I used Guzma, this week I used Mina, damn I'm proud of my variety

[tribal agate]

nice job (although wtf the two others lol)

[swift swan]

gotta love Sinnoh CS for forcing me to use more braincells

[swift swan]

SEUP for Mina lol. Red and Mina are pretty slow and my attack + speed buffers are occupied, so I just grabbed Lyra and took perma field effects she missed quite a lot of grassy glides though so I can't say her flinches saved me

[dark osprey]

does Mina get through presync without the SEUN nukes?

[tribal agate]

normally yes

i can't do CS rn but i'll see if i can record a F2P option if others don't by then

[dark osprey]

no worries. just curious.

just did the initial run without experimentation

[tribal agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUwZ6Dm05E i did this on Hoenn which wasn't F2P but just so you can see the potential out of SEUP (the Lyra is purely decorative)

[dark osprey]

haha

[swift swan]

she did for me

[swift swan]

ew strength 8

[tribal agate]

you don't? that's the best presync paras imo

[trail smelt]

I always use strength 8-9 depending on whether I need status or debuffs haha

[plush tangle]

"ew strength 8"
me with strength 9:

[toxic cobalt]

So strong

[tribal agate]

people on their way to increase ATK/SPATK by flat values to end up with 2800 stats when my STR rounds them at 1900

(i used to do that for a long time then realized i was just ruining myself)

[plush tangle]

the only atk buff that I give sometimes is the 10% one for 50 points

when I need status

[swift swan]

I'm a full attack + full PoH truther

[tribal agate]

it's not 10%, it's litteraly a flat 100 on the stat

STR is a % increase

[toxic cobalt]

I switched to your Strength 12 teams for awhile Dreamy but I just couldn't clear sometimes

[tribal agate]

i don't use STR 12

[toxic cobalt]

Whatever it was!

[tribal agate]

i'm always at 8

[toxic cobalt]

I don't check the number

[lost gulch]

if u have strength 12 , u should be using tech nukes

[swift swan]

I use strength 12 only for postsyncs, usually when there's half sync countdown

[lost gulch]

imo

[swift swan]

other than that, full attack presync or bust

[spring fable]

Okie mm done

[tribal agate]

but STR presync is easier than Attack...

i showed the comparison many times why do people not trust me

[lost gulch]

cos no video

[swift swan]

I trust you, and I would recommend the pinned params with Strength 8 for presync all the time, just that I would never use that myself

[tribal agate]

#1009554906568462476 message

[swift swan]

I would never recommend my own params to people, it's too hard-hitting

I just like it

[lost gulch]

post sync tho

[tribal agate]

[swift swan]

is there really any other option for postsync other than strength 12

[trail smelt]

I use post sync parameters and presync anyway

[tribal agate]

can't speak for post sync personally i rarely ever do nowadays

if the enemy syncs me i consider it a failure

[swift swan]

fucking same

enemy syncs and I survived and yet still win at full attack and full PoH param? okay, still an L in my book

[tribal agate]

[toxic cobalt]

I just don't trust Dreamy

[tribal agate]

[spring fable]

Wait not done lol I’m trolling hard mode done

[swift swan]

okay good, now on to the real deal

welcome to Sinnoh MM

[sharp totem]

next week might suck with ghost weak lucian

[rigid flint]

Time for the fun (pain) to begin

[sharp totem]

i ex'd karen thinkin dark week was next

[swift swan]

haha, ghost weak lucian

the only time I fully rely on phantom force and shadow force DPS

[toxic cobalt]

Ah yes physical ghost

[rigid flint]

Lucian doesn't have wise entry right....?

If he does I want to cry

[tribal agate]

well SS Korrina became a thing in the meantime but otherwise

[rigid flint]

I'll take that as a yes

[tribal agate]

yeah good luck

[rigid flint]

Time to cry

[swift swan]

last time I used Red/SSR Cynthia/Morty and did not click Shadow Ball at all. The two-turn moves messed with my countdown so bad even Red couldn't fix it. Lucian got to sync, killed all 3 of my units, and I won because of Morty's Last Word

[cinder summit]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Ghost Move | Physical Move‎

------------------------------

Acerola & Palossand
‎　⤷Astonish, Never-Ending Royal Nightmare
Acerola (Fall 2020) & Mimikyu
‎　⤷Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak, Phantom Force, Trick-or-Treat Shadow Claw
Agatha & Gengar
‎　⤷Lick
Bea (Palentine's 2022) & Vanilluxe
‎　⤷Astonish
Helena (Hex Maniac) & Haunter
‎　⤷Lick
Kiawe & Marowak
‎　⤷Shadow Bone
Lillie (Special Costume) & Polteageist
‎　⤷Astonish
Morty & Drifblim
‎　⤷Phantom Force, Mystic Seer Phantom Force
Morty & Mismagius
‎　⤷Astonish
Morty (Fall 2021) & Banette
‎　⤷Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak, Midnight Fright Ghost Impact
Phoebe & Dusknoir
‎　⤷Shadow Punch, Lonely Flower Shadow Punch

‎

Selene & Decidueye
‎　⤷Spirit Shackle
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Renegade) & Giratina
‎　⤷Shadow Force, Renegade Shadow Force
Sygna Suit Korrina & Marshadow
‎　⤷Spectral Thief, Shadow Punch, Shadow-Shrouded Spectral Thief

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[swift swan]

I've been saved by Morty's Last Word in CS two times now

[toxic cobalt]

Acerola nuke

[tribal agate]

it'll be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine see

shadow bone dps

[swift swan]

ah yes, acerola and pallosand. astonish DPS LFG

[rigid flint]

Hell yeah

[sharp totem]

i got 2/5 allister and thats rly it for ghost

[tribal agate]

where are your Selene EXs now i wonder?

[rigid flint]

Phoebe dps so true

[rigid flint]

Alive

Very much alive

[swift swan]

Lick DPS Helena? incredible

[toxic cobalt]

Please don't take me back to the 2021 halloween daily battles

[rigid flint]

OH WAIT DREAMY IS A FELLOW SELENE STAN

[tribal agate]

remind me to do a 9 Lick showcase
or Spirit Shackle lmao

[rigid flint]

I FORGOR

[sharp totem]

might end up needing to offtype it a bit with ash

[swift swan]

I almost never use her

on a mission to offend dreamy as many times as I can today

[rigid flint]

Alright

[swift swan]

Lucian? Wise Entry x2 Lucian?

[rigid flint]

Time to run Kiawe, Selene and my 1/5 SS Korrina

[tribal agate]

yeah staff team knows to tell me no Selene alts whenever they wanna booly me

[sharp totem]

is wise entry spe def buff?

[swift swan]

well I suppose Ash can do it

[swift swan]

doubled special defense

[rigid flint]

I feel your pain

[sharp totem]

huh

[rigid flint]

Alola VA shall redeem us

[sharp totem]

ah

i'll run sst red then, dragon weak cynthia means cyrus wins

usually save him for the champion fights

[swift swan]

what was that? another Lillie alt?

[rigid flint]

Screams internally

[swift swan]

well, you can run the two pikachu together against Lucian, should be fine

[rigid flint]

It is easy to peer into DeNA

They do not see Alola

[sharp totem]

i can save ash if any of the others are harder

[tribal agate]

omg it's SS Brock week

[rigid flint]

They see Lillie

[swift swan]

OH YEAH

someone ping me for EX SS Brock clear

I want to see it

[tribal agate]

yeah will do, i have him EX'd

[rigid flint]

Oh yo ping me too

[tribal agate]

my staple team for him is SS Brock / Sonia / Kukui

never fails

[rigid flint]

Dream team right there

[swift swan]

Dreamy team right there

[main crow]

Granbull sweep real, that play rough under fairy zone feels good

[rigid flint]

Ohhhh I wish I could see that damage

[swift swan]

haha, fairy zone... something I do not have

[main crow]

Around 7k I believe for 3 syncs, not the best but it gets the job done

[tribal agate]

wait what

7k on type after 3 syncs?

under zone?

that doesn't seem right

[rigid flint]

Ayo what

[main crow]

Tbh I don't really pay attention much

[rigid flint]

Mina was going up to 6k for 3 syncs with no zone

[main crow]

I just remember a 7k damage

[tribal agate]

are we talking play rough or sync dmg here

[main crow]

Play rough

[tribal agate]

oh ok lol

i was spooked

[swift swan]

Nahhh if there's a unit that does 7k on sync under zone with 3 sync buffs I will be very concerned

[main crow]

Sync I only did once as the first, I want to get rid of centre quick before it becomes too annoying

[rigid flint]

Smart

Mina did 30k to cynthia on sync for me which was very nice

[sharp totem]

should be fine for next week

[rigid flint]

Took her out since I did some play roughs to her beforehand

[main crow]

Think she did around 15k as first sync under fairy zone and -6 atk

[rigid flint]

Ah

[swift swan]

Both ss morty and classic giovanni seem redundant, morty can easily carry another striker

[rigid flint]

For Mina it's probs best to have an ex sync first

[sharp totem]

my only other fire striker is emboar hilda

[swift swan]

Silver?

[sharp totem]

suppose

[swift swan]

Ah shit I just realized we have Head Start 1 Bertha next week. I have a bad feeling about this

[sharp totem]

havent really leveled him up

[swift swan]

The two ho-ohs can easily clear content in this game

[rigid flint]

Ono

[main crow]

yikes head start

[sharp totem]

whats head start do

[rigid flint]

The Solgaleo dream is destroyed

[main crow]

Ah shit it's steel weak even

[rigid flint]

Sync move countdown

So they sync faster

[swift swan]

I guess it's still fine if you postsync

[sharp totem]

is it only by 1?

[main crow]

Yeah

[swift swan]

-1 sync countdown upon entry

[rigid flint]

Hopefully

I have no steel zone to carry me

[sharp totem]

i usually do the -1/-2 cooldown parameter

[rigid flint]

Might have to bust out og red to carry

[sharp totem]

end up fine

[swift swan]

Bad param, we don't usually recommend that

[rigid flint]

Og red the saviour

[swift swan]

-2 cooldown is usually alright if you have a very strong tech nuke

But I never see it recommended, more often that not it just puts you at a heavy disadvantage

[sharp totem]

so are bertha and lucian the scary ones next week?

[rigid flint]

Yeah

[swift swan]

Imo yes, but "scary" really depends on your units

Like if you have Pal Marnie or SS Korrina, then Bertha and Lucian are pushovers

[sharp totem]

is sinnoh cs the hardest normally?

[rigid flint]

Would 1/5 ss korrina, selene and kiawe work

For Lucian

[vital gazelle]

i’m going to helena lucian into the ground next week https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604025184692731904/1023836064256893009/ch0652_68_sayoko_st_1004_128.ktx.png

unless it’s sentry entry x2

[main crow]

Does Steel bertha next week have any sand summoner bs?

[tribal agate]

she has HS1

can't recall sand tho

[rigid flint]

Nope no sand

[main crow]

Aight good

[sharp totem]

week after should be all good, i hear electric weak aaron is a menace however

[rigid flint]

Oh yeah

If you don't have the Pikas

But have like Hau

It'll take some time but it's still doable

[tribal agate]

Hau + Volkner should be enough with a support EX for comfiness otherwise EX might not be even needed

[sharp totem]

got 4/5 MR and ex karen for dark weak

should be simple enough

[swift swan]

Generally acknowledged to be the hardest

Hoenn is a strong competitor though

[rigid flint]

Damnit Lucian

[swift swan]

Wise entry x2, actually

[rigid flint]

Why must you always forbid me of my strongest pairs

First with anni lillie and then of marnie

[sharp totem]

i imagine we'll get closer to Kalos CS once its VA comes around

[swift swan]

Non-EX hau could do it with terrain and ex support. He'll be fine

[rigid flint]

Should I invest in Karen for dark weak lucian

[sharp totem]

do you have masked royale

[main crow]

Ho-oh nuke go bbbrrrr

[tribal agate]

oh i meant EX for the support yeah Hau is fine exless
i'm almost in a state where i have all EXable supports in the game so it's nearly impossible for me to not have one in the team lol

[swift swan]

I don't recall dark-weak Lucian to be hard

[sharp totem]

masked royale at 3/5 wouldnt need ex to slap silly

[main crow]

Bug type lucian is really his hardest one

[swift swan]

But to answer your question, uhhh maybe don't invest in Karen

[rigid flint]

The problem is I don't have any special dark type units

Oh wait

[main crow]

And that's only bc he has bloated hp and sentry entry

[rigid flint]

wise entry I am blind

I'm blind dw

[swift swan]

It's Phoebe that has sentry entry x2 on dark

[main crow]

And the bug types pool is...

[swift swan]

Lucian's dead easy

[rigid flint]

Phoebe was the one that gave me nightmares

Now that's right

[sharp totem]

my good bugs are aaron

[swift swan]

I just offtyped phoebe

[sharp totem]

thats it

[rigid flint]

Time for tic tac electric mouse to go ham on lucian again

[swift swan]

Though apparently Sidney can nuke her down

[main crow]

Noland I heard is pretty good to deal with bug types

He just needs an ex

[swift swan]

On the same week as electric aaron? You sure?

[rigid flint]

I have funny one hit delete button the character

Aka ash

[swift swan]

Ash for Aaron, Red for Lucian now that's nice

[sharp totem]

week after doesnt look too bad

[rigid flint]

Oh no I meant marnie as in tic tac electric mouse

I sadly do not have sst red

[sharp totem]

got ex may so that'll be fun

[rigid flint]

Ooh yes

Time for me to use ex may and ss grimsley together

[sharp totem]

usually run may and elio together, 3rd is always dependent

could go melony with rain sustain

[rigid flint]

May and Elio do go really well with each other

[sharp totem]

wish i had ss blue though

only problem with may elio is move gauge

[spring fable]

I can’t win against 850

:/

[rigid flint]

850?

[spring fable]

850 pts

[rigid flint]

Ah, what're u having trouble with?

[trail smelt]

Vs who?

[spring fable]

Aaron

[rigid flint]

Do you have any ground types?

Like Naomi?

[spring fable]

I do not

For 5*s just garchomp and hippowdon

[vital gazelle]

is garchomp 1/5?

[spring fable]

Yes

[vital gazelle]

who’s the third unit you’re running

cynthia / bertha / support could work

prob not for 2k

[spring fable]

Like hilbert?

[vital gazelle]

but it depends on support

cynthia can get max crit in sand, so yeah, your support really only needs to give attack and gauge support

bertha buffs crit anyways

[spare arch]

Flint is fucking harddd

Im just confused either which to fight, Flint or Bertha on round 3

[rigid flint]

Definitely Flint

[tribal agate]

if you do Bertha on R3 make sure you have weather

[rigid flint]

Or that

[tribal agate]

but i'd still do Bertha R3 cause R2 boosts her she's fully physical

[spare arch]

Yeah i did that but on round 4 im confused on who to use

I didnt EX Olivia anyway

Or does anyone hav the best order

[tribal agate]

there's no really "best" order

just to bear in mind R3 with Bertha's sandstorm, and R2 for her damage

[spare arch]

Ok thanks

[swift swan]

Water-weak flint kinda discourages special moves because he debuffs sp attack a lot, but no entries

[vital gazelle]

he’s getting barry’d regardless

[swift swan]

I did Nessa last time. It was so satisfying

[vital gazelle]

nessa casually having like 14 multipliers

absurd unit

[tribal agate]

Kris enters chat on the 25th

[main crow]

Water weak Flint starts at the 28th aw yeah it's showtime

[swift swan]

HELL YEAAAAH

Maybe I'll finally EX Kris

Been wanting to, for her outfit. But damn she's gonna be so good soon

[main crow]

The ex and buff she deserves, this is the respect she needs for being one of the OGs

[swift swan]

[main crow]

I hate ghost weak

[swift swan]

double edge phoebe

[main crow]

If only ghost shift exists 🤪

[swift swan]

I forgot she doesn't have it

...because I still don't have phoebe

[main crow]

Zamn meanwhile I kept getting her and Glacia

Thanks RNG you sure know what I need 2/5 Brendan and 1/5 Sydney still

[tribal agate]

https://i.imgur.com/PtkiGBw.png

what's up with this moveset Lucian are you ok

[swift swan]

Clearly not

[main crow]

Is this flying weak lucian?

[swift swan]

Let's not forget his sure crit Close Combat postsync!

It's hilarious to see Leaf get one-shotted, from full HP, by Drain Punch. At least she did her job

[main crow]

Aye screw ghost types I'll just off type

[swift swan]

Oh to have submas

[full mesa]

You have Mewtwo.

[main crow]

Wise entry

[swift swan]

Lucian is such a roadblock

[full mesa]

F.... I'll off type.

[swift swan]

Lucian has 4 stages in Sinnoh CS and 3 of them have x2 entries, it's hilarious

Half of them have bloated HP too, but at least the next 2 weeks he won't have massively inflated HP

[toxic cobalt]

“Hilarious”

[swift swan]

[grand trout]

God

I spent tries trying to make diantha and wally work against cynthia only to realize spiritomb has wise entry x2 😭

[main crow]

Do a Mina sweep

[grand trout]

That really didn't make it easier (because physical fairies are a scarcity) but still

[keen jasper]

I still dealt 96k damage against Cynthia using SS Wally

He saying he don't care if there's x2 Wise Entry

[grand trout]

Tried mina, didn't work. Used fairy!gladion instead

[main crow]

She works just fine for me in 2k

[keen jasper]

Do you have OG Lillie?

[main crow]

Then again I picked lower physical defense parameter for her

[grand trout]

Yes, why

[grand trout]

My wally is 1/5

[keen jasper]

The answer is kinda obvious

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, I think Wally will still deal a good chunk of damage even at 1/5

Just make sure you have a support that can mega

[grand trout]

I kinda want to have my fairies to have staying power and lillie isn't ex. I'm using burghepi.

[keen jasper]

Lillie does have Unfortuitous 9 so maybe she can lower the evade of Cynthia

[grand trout]

At any rate, i cleared it with burghepi, fairy!gladion and cred

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmm right

[grand trout]

We really need a striker/tech fairy in the general pool. Preferably physical

[dark snow]

To do champion stadium on hard, do I need to figure out the sync grid, do lucky skills/theme skills, etc?

How much investment is needed?

[toxic cobalt]

Sync grids usually help! Depends on the team

Some units will need them more than others

[dark snow]

But my whole team should be 125?

I'm just trying to see what I can get by with without spreading out my resources.

[toxic cobalt]

120 is fine but usually you want them all there

Can get away with only two at that level if you want

I would say you need at least one gridded unit per team

[steel kelp]

As long as you’re not doing MM

[sick inlet]

I had to offtype 3 out of the 5
What is this 💀
(I am doing duos though)

[steel kelp]

Was sinnoh the last region to get cs

[toxic cobalt]

Do a full duo offtype

[dark snow]

What's MM?

Sorry, am big nub

[steel kelp]

Master mode

[dark snow]

Oh okay, nah. I'm just trying to do the league on hard so I can get those gems.

[steel kelp]

It just feels like they injected a lot of hate into this region specifically

[tribal agate]

no it was Hoenn

[dark snow]

I see people really doing the recommended typings. Is that a must? My only built unit is Summer N and Zoroark.

[sick inlet]

Well, technically Speaking, that would be easier than the ontype ngl 😂😂😂
Maybe only the Groundweak was easy for me

[dark snow]

And I don't have any equipment on him.

Just some sync stuff, no lucky skills, no leveled theme skills.

Sync grid* stuff

[sick inlet]

Well no, but yes.

The recommended typing is what is going go deal double damage (super effective)
But there are other units of certain types that are tok strong anyways

Summer N is Dark, there is no dark weak this week?

[dark snow]

None.

[sick inlet]

His base kit kinda revolves around super effective hits

[dark snow]

That's just the one unit I just use to get thru the content.

Ahh

[sick inlet]

He's still good to use, debuffs and good gauge refresh in his grid

But will not dish out the damage you expect him to

[dark snow]

What about if I wanted to get most of my units to 120

Do I need to worry about resources? Is everything farmable?

Most, if not all.

[nimble shell]

lucian

[toxic cobalt]

Resources are locked behind stamina or daily caps

[sick inlet]

Everything that levels you up till 140 is farmable, but you're limited by Stamina and will take so much time. Your best bet is to level up the most important units or the ones that need then the stats the most

Sync orbs though, are daily capped

[sick inlet]

Don't cost stamina, you should be doing them daily anyways for daily missions.

[steel kelp]

Lodge is free orbs

[dark snow]

What I was thinking is leveling up a bunch of good supports.

Then just doing a DPS for whatever content.

[sick inlet]

If you mean exchange, I would never exchange lodge stuff for orbs 💀

[nimble shell]

i think lucian is the first time i forced to use deoxy

[sick inlet]

Supports are important, but your DPS need to be able to survive hits so they can keep on DPSing

[nimble shell]

blue fail, zinnia fail, sc diantha fail

[steel kelp]

Why Lucian

[sick inlet]

How come? He was one of the only two that i beat ontype 2v3 🙈

[nimble shell]

hope ash, red or diantha can settle cynthia

[steel kelp]

Well if you have those I don’t see why not

[dark snow]

For Aaron, my only DPS is Bertha, and I just got Courtney.

Should I level them up?

[sick inlet]

Diantha and Ash won't have a good time with wise entry x 2

[steel kelp]

I’ll probably do the same with red cause I really don’t wanna use Mina

[tribal agate]

i'm recording a f2p Cynthia 2k hopefully it'll enable some people
can't believe Hop won't MPR after 3 tries

[nimble shell]

i have ssgio

aaron is like child

just stomp on him

[sick inlet]

You don't need to stick to on type, you can have several strong DPS that can offtype stages in general.
But if you are going to pick between those two I personally would say Courtney

[sick inlet]

People sleeping on Mina

[dark snow]

Okay, I just figured Bertha because she's a striker.

[steel kelp]

Ground weak should be pretty easy

[sick inlet]

Bertha is tech, not striker

So is Courtney

[dark snow]

wheh

[steel kelp]

Don’t sleep on tech tho

[dark snow]

Oh you're right.

[steel kelp]

SST red exists

[dark snow]

Who's rhat

[nimble shell]

there's many broken tech

[sick inlet]

Many techs are as good as strikers if not better

[nimble shell]

but they're normally limited

[steel kelp]

Sygna suit thunderbolt

[nimble shell]

deoxy, redpika

[sick inlet]

There is Deoxys, the yellow rat, and many other examples

[dark snow]

I have SST, Deoxys and Redpika

[sick inlet]

Red pika = SST

[dark snow]

Oops

SST, and Ash

[sick inlet]

Well those 3 can off type 3 different stages for you

Each one on a team with 2 that supports them

[dark snow]

Okay, so those are good investments.

[sick inlet]

Really good

[dark snow]

Ty ty

[sick inlet]

Deoxys benefits the most from stats/level up

Because his stats doubles when he transforms

[dark snow]

I have him teamed up with Latinas and Latinos

Lord...

Latias and Latios

Just made an ugly ass laugh /:

[trail smelt]

It’s less that I’m sleeping on Mina and more I’m severely disappointed at her

[tribal agate]

about what

that she can solo dmg the hardest fairy CS stage?

[grand trout]

I cleared aaron using maxie and courtney. Do they override acute senses?

[main crow]

Don't think they have piercing blows or anything like that

[grand trout]

Wait

Is it because of the gradual healing param

[main crow]

Yeah

Was about to say

[trail smelt]

I have never seen this to be remotely true

She can’t do crap in a team of 3 even

[tribal agate]

https://youtu.be/pHJl74zzvzw

might wanna review your gameplay then

(note i said solo dmg not solo as in 1 v 3)

[nimble shell]

Yep I'm done

All ez clear beside lucian

Only off type Cynthia and Lucian

Ssgio, Olivia, ghetsis on another 3

[keen jasper]

I know this has been asked before but:
Does R4 params work with grid Cold Snap?

[tribal agate]

i actually have no idea tbh, never tested it myself, curious as well

[nimble shell]

Wait I have no condition para

Was about to say it didn't freeze as usual

I'll do test

Want to try can the strawhat lady replace ssgio

[full mesa]

Is your f2p playlist up? I'm waiting for your ideas.

[tribal agate]

uh i don't have a F2P playlist that's usually Aurochs here #1011675077764456519
keep that channel close it's very comfy

i just randomly record stuff

[mellow linden]

November I'm sorry, I got SS Hilda and wanted to test drive her, so no Gloria commentary

[old orchid]

no, it only affects the secondary effect of the move, not the effects added by grid tiles

[swift swan]

[austere quest]

Bertha giving me a bit of trouble with her not giving me time to get second sync

She really said she wants to kill Roxanne in like two shots

[mellow linden]

Screw it, I'm doing a run with only Cynthia on Master Mode to try Gloria

[mellow linden]

Gloria doesn't have enough damage at 1/5 to be the only damage-dealer, it seems

Granted, I could just be doing something wrong with the setup, but I'm not super interested in fiddling around for an hour on that

[trail smelt]

Who are you using Gloria on

[mellow linden]

I was doing a test on Cynthia to see if Gloria + Fall Caitlin + Lodge Elesa would work

I already 10ked today, but I'd used SS Hilda on Cynthia then

[viral moat]

I can't make this stall team work, help?

Hell I can't beat her regularly

[swift swan]

huh, I can't see why it shouldn't

does cynthia just hit way too hard or?

[viral moat]

Yeah everyone ends up dying

I might try offtype with ghost

[swift swan]

what ghost types do you have

cynthia has wise entry x2

[swift swan]

you sync continuously with dawn, right? using her TM twice can help with buffing defenses

just heal it right back up

[viral moat]

Anni Lillie, r!Cynthia and fallister is my offtype team

[swift swan]

anni lillie can't ignore the wise entry x2 and ssr cynthia's main DPS is special too

[viral moat]

Damn

[swift swan]

unless you're nuking with SSR Cynthia, whose sync is physical

you can try that stall team again, make sure all 3 are poisoned and spam venom drench. cynthia is quite weak to sp attack debuffs and with dawn's bulk and collective healing from dawn and leaf, you should survive well enough

[viral moat]

I couldn't beat it but I have a great idea

I turn off master mode, beat it, reset, do it all again but this time save sst red for her

[full mesa]

Want to try and do the e4 again on type but I need help.

[swift swan]

Olivia + Acerola + EX physical support can beat Flint, though without EX Olivia you might have some difficulties (but definitiely doable)

[full mesa]

2/5 Olivia tho.

[swift swan]

oof 💀

hmmm she already has inertia and sand blaster at 2/5 though, might be worth a try

[full mesa]

She can't. I did Flint with SSACynthiaEX/BeaEx combo.

[full mesa]

Olivia/Acerola/(1/5) Falkner?

[swift swan]

worth a try

#1011234431291359302 message here's an ontype Cynthia clear

For Bertha, Ghetsis can nuke her just fine after an EX support (mine's EX but no powerboost yet). Maybe Sabrina, plus a weather setter

[full mesa]

Ok. I'll see.

[swift swan]

oh btw if anyone clears Cynthia with Gladion, let me know

I want to give it a try but I don't think I can do it without zone (though I do have SEUP from Red)

but also because I don't wanna redo my CS just so I can reach cynthia lol

[toxic cobalt]

Anti-Clayism

This Aaron is

[swift swan]

how's clay

ping me if you manage to make him work

sometimes I forget Clay has grid now

oh also I'm curious if someone clears Aaron with Hapu

[tribal agate]

Clay grid is on 25th

Hapu i can try yeah

i mean it's not a question or if it's surefire she can clear it just how much carry she needs hehe

[toxic cobalt]

Hapu is bad though

[tribal agate]

nou

[toxic cobalt]

Fine

Research appeal

[bright furnace]

Good luck if you’re using Hapu

[toxic cobalt]

Why did they make her grid so bad

[swift swan]

...wait so he doesn't have a grid yet

man I'm having a whiplash

[long thicket]

Tried some 2k around my spare time.
It did not go well.
Best success is almost beating Aaron while the sides still had most of their health.

Really, healing is Aaron's whole thing.
It's not just Electric-weak, it's all of his fights.

[swift swan]

obligatory meme

[swift swan]

anyway, what's your team?

remember that gradual healing actually benefits you this time because it turns off Acute Senses

[long thicket]

Um...
For ground, I have Sygna Giovanni and Maxie as strikers options, both EX.
Cynthia, currently non-EX and 1/5.
I don't have Courtney yet, I went with Bertha.
As for supports, I vary on these. Evelyn has the healing, I believe?

[main crow]

I honestly would ditch sand team in this particular case, 1/5 SSGio would not benefit anything from the sand

Maxie have sun boost from the get go

Evelyn/Maxie/atk+crit support

[swift swan]

SS Giovanni works just fine

[swift swan]

this can also work

[void wyvern]

Everyone is very bulky this week.

[swift swan]

Just another day in Sinnoh

[void wyvern]

Will SS N make my life easier or harder against Bertha?

Harder

SS N my beloved but good gosh he’s miserable.

[halcyon sail]

I did 9k, quite proud, this week I unlocked master mode for Sinnoh

[swift swan]

1/5?

[halcyon sail]

Lucian is rough, Zinnia for flying is just hard to use

[swift swan]

I think with how gauge friendly he is, he can dual strike

[swift swan]

No worries, you'll get there!

10k or higher is for flex anyway

[void wyvern]

I ended up just using Candice, like always.

[wicked otter]

You really need to use the right atk type whether sp atk or phy atk, it changes a lot

[dark osprey]

He does make things much easier. You do need to change the weather to make her hit less harder

[toxic cobalt]

Urgh I used Sycamore with Cyrus. Feels so wasteful.

[devout sluice]

Cynthia was a pain once more.

Had to bring Lillie just so I can let Anni N hit his Nobel Roars.

[dark osprey]

Why Anni N and is he 3/5?

[void wyvern]

Bertha’s damage is not the issue, it’s killing Bertha that’s semi annoying

[manic mica]

I couldn't on type Bertha with Sshilbert unfortunately

But otherwise I had no issue with the entire run hehe

Ss wally and lounge lillie are great partners

[sinful brook]

Ugh this R2 parameter is a pain

[toxic cobalt]

Sad

[void wyvern]

Why did I think using Grant would be a good idea?

[tribal agate]

use SS Brock

#1011234431291359302 message

[toxic cobalt]

omgiforgotaboutssbrock

[tribal agate]

(or Olivia 2/5 if you have her lol less headache although i don't find SS Brock that awful i mean look at my team it's fairly friendly, there's only one MPR rng involved and Super Prep)

[void wyvern]

I want grant to work so badly, why did they give his sync flinch activation?

Grant is unusable.

[toxic cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[void wyvern]

Second time…I tried to make him work last rock weak stage but I didn’t learn my lesson

[austere quest]

I had to change Roxanne to SS Blue so I could get my second Sync off to kill Bertha. Otherwise very smooth 10k this week.

[void wyvern]

Now if only he could kill the sides too

[viral moat]

We need a new champ stadium icl

Kalos when

And alola

Wait no

Galar

[tribal agate]

@fringe valve please use #1010274591601598555 we advise making a personal thread or new post as you prefer

[fringe valve]

Sorry

[dark osprey]

Maybe that's where grant may be usable. Grant, Brock and Hop used to be kind useful for those Kanto ones at least

[full mesa]

We had Hoenn recently. Give them a break.

Also the only one left is Kalos. Dunno if the can make a Galar one.

[keen panther]

Uh... I'm actually stumped on Cynthia. What do I do with such a thicc pokemon?

[mellow linden]

SSA Cynthia? She can be a general tank and best works when her Fighting Zone will benefit a teammate (Bea is one of the best choices)

[robust barn]

[lunar dawn]

Think he meant the champion right

@keen panther Cynthia has a passive that doubles special defense. With the right support you may be able to 2k with Mina (if you are just trying to clear without master mode you can use an offtype physical nuke like ss hilda)

_ _

_ _
What support would I need to 2k Bertha with Ghetsis? I'm finding it hard to get spatk boosts, change weather, buff defense and support gauge all in two supports
Don't have any other decent ice types besides melony and she's a support

And yes offtype is an option though I'd prefer to use my 2 offtypes on Flint or Lucian

[mellow linden]

Oh, probably right. I dun goofed

[lunar dawn]

Also, one other question

[manic mica]

If you have sswally on 3/5 Cynthia's a cakewalk

[lunar dawn]

My question was pinned sry

😅

[cosmic vortex]

I brute force cynthia with psychic hoenn trio team...it works although she have wise entryx2

[zealous karma]

I plan to beat cynthia using

Zerena

Not PSerena

Because she’s not next weeks weakness

I cannot wait to beat wise entry with Calem

[lunar dawn]

That single change to parameters made Bertha 12x easier
I was using power on hit and attack buffs this whole time for everything
Thank you community 🙂

[swift swan]

I'm a PoH and full attack truther but yeah, I wouldn't recommend that

[zealous karma]

I’m a Max PoH max strength

[lunar dawn]

i can't nuke yet

[grand trout]

I did! I used burgh and cred

[trail smelt]

Double Power on Hit Strength 8-9 gradual healing baby

[swift swan]

It actually gives your opponents the least bulk possible. You just need a good tank

[swift swan]

Oooh, how was his damage?

And what's burgh for?

[grand trout]

Defenses and crit

It allowed me to tide Cynthia's first sync

[swift swan]

Oh, spring burgh?

I see I see

[grand trout]

His dps is supported by cred's se up tbh. I think i got lucky defeating cynthia, def took me a couple of tries

[swift swan]

No EX Gladion

[bright furnace]

no EX Gladion

[subtle forge]

No EX gladion

[toxic cobalt]

No EX gladion

[swift swan]

No EX Gladion meaning my EX Gladion has a chance!

Even without Burgh lol, I can find replacements

[hidden ore]

Is there an order to do Sinnoh this week?

Like last pinned one

Cause I dont see it now on pin

[toxic cobalt]

Don't flint round 3

[hidden ore]

Bertha which one

2?

[toxic cobalt]

Not too important

Depends on your teams

[hidden ore]

Well idk with my ices

Kinda want to try N

But idk who good

And what params

[toxic cobalt]

What buffs does N need?

[hidden ore]

Hail setter idk

Glacia still bad?

[subtle forge]

She’s not abysmal anymore

[steel kelp]

She exists

But candice sets hail

[zealous karma]

He doesn’t need hail

[candid juniper]

Wait hold up hold up

Why not flint round 3

[swift swan]

because Flint sets sun on entry and hits so hard with it

don't fight Flint R3 if you're not planning to change the weather

If you are changing the weather though, it doesn't matter

R2 is the iffy one imo. Fight R2 with whoever physical striker you're most confident with

[toxic cobalt]

Fine I'll look up N myself

Okay basically self-buffing

[candid juniper]

Ah, that’s why I didn’t struggle

[hidden ore]

So no Flint r3 and no Bertha at r2-3?

[swift swan]

save R3 if you're planning to use weather

[mellow linden]

If you're gonna bring something to change weather both are fine for Round 3

[toxic cobalt]

You want to change Bertha's weather. It's extended so you can't play around it.

[swift swan]

I've seen clears that bruteforce through her weather but yeah, I wouldn't recommend

[toxic cobalt]

The chip damage genuinely affected some of my team compositions

[swift swan]

Hilbert surviving on endurance and then getting killed by sandstorm damage after using X Speed All

^my experience when fighting Flint with a sand team

[mellow linden]

Oooo, next week I can use Clair

[toxic cobalt]

For real

Ack steel weak Bertha

[mellow linden]

Steel weak Bertha isn’t that bad

Just means post-Sync is likely a requirement rather than an option

I guess that’s problematic for people who’re used to pre-Sync, but it’s pretty much your average CS fight for me since I use post-Sync parameters near-exclusively

[toxic cobalt]

Love her post-sync aoe crit

[mellow linden]

2 Supports (so Vigilance) and Steven’s Endurance, baybee

Steel is a really weird type in this game, isn’t it

One of the best Supports when it comes to personal damage output, half the options are outdated yet still some of the better players in the type, etc.

[swift swan]

yay steel-weak bertha

I'm only worried if we have half sync param next week

[mellow linden]

Waiting for the inevitable moment where someone posts their clear with Bertha on halved countdown parameter

[steel kelp]

So will Gloria be good for Bertha next week?

1/5

[toxic cobalt]

She has reduced countdown already, just get it over with

[mellow linden]

Should be fine, may want to bring someone with flinch potential

Steven works for Steel weak Bertha, and Gloria’s damage should be higher than his

[swift swan]

Half sync countdown steel-weak bertha with -2 sync countdown param

[chilly sparrow]

Its my first time doing master mode and its really challenging for ny units especially the 4 bar gauge only lol

[toxic cobalt]

You'll get it with practice!

[steel kelp]

You can start lower than 2k if it’s your first time

[chilly sparrow]

Yep im tryig the 850 points guide i only finished bertha and trying different setup for aaron.

Is this good unit for cs master? Is the buffs on shield stacking here?

[lunar dawn]

reflect does not stack

nor does light screen

sadly

double screens is nice situationally though

especially early on

_ _

Alright so
I'm on Cynthia right now with 8k
Is gladion better than mina here (my gladions 5/5)
Also what supports should I use 🤔

[lunar dawn]

my point is I usually don't take the opponent out quickly enough before poh gets too out of hand

[mellow linden]

SS Wally is literally right there

Sonia + Mina + SS Wally, easy

[lunar dawn]

I didn't think about putting mina and wally on the same team

I was getting fuqd by sync move since ghost weakness

Should I just aim to kill before sync

[toxic cobalt]

always

[sharp leaf]

Just completed my first ever 10k clear!

[swift swan]

Congrats! and on sinnoh too!

[sharp leaf]

Thanks! I'm glad I was able to do it, especially after hearing about sinnoh cs's reputation

[full mesa]

Hearing? Didn't you witness it?

[sharp leaf]

LMAO

Well yes I witnessed it after hearing about it, since I just unlocked master mode today as well

Yeah I'd say it lived up to the hype lol

[toxic cobalt]

Hype!

[void wyvern]

[swift swan]

Hype?

[full mesa]

Run November, run. They are monsters.

[swift swan]

Ngl I do like Sinnoh. I love the dopamine and frustration it gives

I spent months hating it but I love CS regions that require the use of more than 2 of my braincells

[toxic cobalt]

You gotta do theme runs Nov

Region and single type runs are viable now

[swift swan]

I did a theme run once but couldn't 10k. Either because of skill issue, half sync param, or because I used Nate

Oh but I also did a full 5 Blue run and could 10k... It was Unova though
Edit: nvm it's actually Kanto

[toxic cobalt]

It's the last one

[old orchid]

Monotype run? Just use Blue and Kahili smh

[river pagoda]

can i off type flint with someone lik ss hilda or ss erika?

i have the phys dmg boost stage on

this is cs hard mode btw*

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, just make sure you change the weather

[full mesa]

Ι did him with SSACynthiaEX/BeaEx/Tech Gyarados

But permanent field round.

[river pagoda]

bea saved me

shes so strong 😩 and minmaxed for physatk

[river pagoda]

can i still use mina for fairy-weak cynthia if i have her 4/5 instead of 5/5?

what grid/lucky skills shud i look for?

and is she fine at 3* ?

[old orchid]

should work fine

just have to bring a spdef bufer and healer

since her bulk isnt good at 3*

[swift swan]

I've seen a 4* Mina clear but not sure about 3*. worth a try though

[river pagoda]

I have very few supports left so my options r very limited, but of these 3 spdef buffers who'd be the best? Liza offers atk buffs too for mina and Misty has healing, while drake has gauge boost

[river pagoda]

Ty, I cud barely even get two 9f the tiles here with the few orbs I have so I just got superduper eff and some power boosts for play rough

[river pagoda]

Aight

[toxic cobalt]

Misty

[river pagoda]

These r the supports I've used and have left - I cud raise whichever is necessary. I j don't know which/if I need to

[toxic cobalt]

Cynthia is a spatk stage so Misty helps

[river pagoda]

aight

thx

[toxic cobalt]

Do you still have Hop or BP Surge?

[river pagoda]

no bp surge

hop was used b4

[toxic cobalt]

Well I suppose you could try MC Torchic

Unless you have other atk/crit buffers somewhere

[river pagoda]

Tried this, got bodied before I cud even faint left side

Guess I need to come back later this week

Grid up Mina more

Raise Misty/Rosa more

[toxic cobalt]

Why are you going for the left side?

[river pagoda]

Pins said left was phys

Unless I read wrong

[toxic cobalt]

You should be going mid first