Champion Stadium

[mellow linden]

Ok, do you have any 3-star and 4-star powerups?

Because good gosh your entire roster below 5-star rarity has been horribly neglected

[warm nymph]

Move level ups right?

[mellow linden]

Those are nice too, but I mean the potential as well (the bronze and silver tickets)

[warm nymph]

Let me check

[toxic cobalt]

Lv29 Skyla

[void wyvern]

Flint can be done in

Roxanne Giovanni Karen/Lucian

[mellow linden]

Level 29 1/5 Skyla just hurts to see

[void wyvern]

It’s risky but it could work.

[warm nymph]

These guys right?

[toxic cobalt]

Grass Ground Fire Dragon Fairy Electric are done

[mellow linden]

Yep

[simple storm]

level up your skyla to 5* if u can

very worth

[mellow linden]

At least get Skyla to 5-stars total

She’s amazing

[warm nymph]

Ok

[mellow linden]

If you have 3-star Support candies get her to 3/5 as well

[void wyvern]

Lucian can be done in

Hilbert Guzma Drake

Damnit can’t use dragon

Back to the drawing board

[simple storm]

hilbert guzma kukui

def debuffs for more damahe

[void wyvern]

Thank you

Whoever drew alder W I love you

[warm nymph]

Did all of that

[toxic cobalt]

Flint can clear with Giovanni Roxanne and Misty

[void wyvern]

Someone else sees Roxanne for how great she is!

[simple storm]

roxanne is insane wdymmm

mine is 5* since hoeen va

[void wyvern]

No one uses her

[mellow linden]

Roxanne is indeed a great Support

[void wyvern]

I’ve had her at 5 star before her grid came out

[signal kettle]

The rock type girl ?

[simple storm]

yeah she is great

[signal kettle]

She's always been super strong

As long as you 5 star her

[void wyvern]

Replacements for Misty?

[toxic cobalt]

Any spdef buffer

[simple storm]

yeah

swimisty is also good

[void wyvern]

It’s either they replace Misty or replace Hilbert so we aren’t doubling down on types

[simple storm]

if its your first week it doesnt really matter

u can clear it the next week

[toxic cobalt]

Can replace Hilbert with Hop

[mellow linden]

They don’t need to shoot for 15 types week 1

[simple storm]

yah

[void wyvern]

True true. My apologies.

[warm nymph]

I have done six is that good?

[simple storm]

anything over 10 is good for the week

[mellow linden]

That’s a good start. Ideally you want to shoot for 9-12 at least for your 1st week

[warm nymph]

Ok

[white gale]

How do these 5 teams look for next weeks Sinnoh MM? (Ignore water team) Any suggestions for improvement?

[toxic cobalt]

Can’t use Ingo twice

[white gale]

Coablion instead of Ingo, my bad

[simple storm]

hop in ice team for what?

candice?

[white gale]

fully boost CAndice for her nuke

[zealous karma]

I wouldn’t use ingo on a maxie team he needs Sun not sandstorm

[simple storm]

hop is super slow

btw

[void wyvern]

Use Marley instead

[mellow linden]

Candice can actually handle all her buffs herself, funnily enough

[white gale]

Sorry, Ingo should be Cobalion

[zealous karma]

It’s all good

[white gale]

Marley instead of... Hop?

[void wyvern]

Marley Candice Hala still holds up on 2k master mode

[white gale]

Yes, she can, just trying to speed it up so she can Nuke ASAP

[void wyvern]

Does Hilbert provide crit for himself?

[mellow linden]

SS Hilbert? Yeah, he’s got Dire Hit+

[void wyvern]

Then Marley is much better

[void wyvern]

This grid will help you max Candice.

[mellow linden]

Marley is pretty great, yeah

[void wyvern]

Marley is stupid good for a free support

[white gale]

ooh nice, so Marley insrtead of Hop. awesome!

[toxic cobalt]

Bizarrely Marley can tank

[void wyvern]

It’s so weird.

But she can

[void wyvern]

Simply set up x speed once and fish for flag bearer off of flame wheel and you’ll do great.

[white gale]

other teams look ok though?

[void wyvern]

We could replace coballion with hop if the intention is to nuke with Courtney

[white gale]

yeah, I was thinking to nuke with Courtney since her nuke damage is higher than Maxie's

[zealous karma]

Calem moment

[white gale]

what you mean to fish for flag bearer off of flame wheel?

[void wyvern]

7-73k?

[zealous karma]

Flints def the easiest psychic week stage for me

[void wyvern]

Flame wheel provides flag bearer on the grid which will boost the teams attack. I’m saying, use flame wheel In hopes it boosts your attack.

X speed/ flame wheel/ flame wheel sync with Candice

[white gale]

with candice, do x speed, all about focus, hail, nuke?

[void wyvern]

For Candice it’s TM / X speed /hail sync

Tm comes first because if you lose the super prep roll you can restart faster!

And with Hilbert. I have no idea what Hilbert does

Setup and techno blast

[white gale]

yeah, he's good for applying ice rebuff and dps

[void wyvern]

Riiiifght…rebuff

[white gale]

won't Abomasnow not have his Crit maxed though? I only see Team Sharp Entry as athe crit buffer

[void wyvern]

You’ll be running follow through 9

Gives certain crit

[white gale]

oo.. gonna have to change Candice's grid

[void wyvern]

Give this a try

[white gale]

Does Supereffective Up Next increase sync move damage?

[void wyvern]

Yes

[white gale]

Oh ok. I was running this

[void wyvern]

With grids it’s important to think more about the individual scenario rather then finding a grid that fits all battles.

It’s why you have 4 presets.

[sharp leaf]

Ready to get my teeth kicked in during mm next week like everyone's been saying

[swift swan]

Good morning CS chat

[austere quest]

Saw so much fun stuff above

[zealous karma]

I really love sinnoh CS but it feels way easier this time around

[bright furnace]

we also know the strats inside out. and a lot more grid expansion units compared to last time

[swift swan]

same

[void wyvern]

Good morning!

The parameters are definitely more forgiving.

[swift swan]

yeah

it's been a while since we had half sync countdown param

good

[bright furnace]

bruh you're gonna jynx it

[swift swan]

half sync countdown head start bertha

[void wyvern]

-cooldown count minus 1

-Cooldown count minus 2

The first time we saw sinnoh cs. We never actually got physical or special moves up

[swift swan]

oh iirc if you take sync countdown -1 on a half-sync param, it's actually rounded up. so the sync countdown -1 doesn't actually matter on the first sync cycle

[void wyvern]

Free points?

[swift swan]

bruh imagine cs stages that give SMUN and PMUN to themselves, or SEUP next

[swift swan]

yes free points, as long as you can beat the stage before opponent's second sync

so the -1 sync countdown doesn't affect the 1st cycle but it affects the 2nd

[void wyvern]

Just wait for them to randomly have prop or super prep

[zealous karma]

I hate that unova always has it

[swift swan]

I remember we had half sync for 5 weeks in a row

it was hell

[void wyvern]

I love half sync!

Sometimes.

[swift swan]

I love half sync if I can just flinchlock the stage with ss lyra and not let them sync at all

I also found that ss brendan and sycamore benefit quite a lot from half sync because they only have a 1-button set up and wants to sync quickly anyway

[void wyvern]

I just use Max offensive parameters and nuke them out.

[swift swan]

most of the time if we have half sync I use postsync params, but I've attempted hyper offensive params on half sync twice. it was wild. it was fun. it was exhilarating. it was stressful but I loved every single second

[void wyvern]

[swift swan]

hyper offensive CS do be giving me some weird dopamine boost

[void wyvern]

Hyper offensive cs makes me anxious in a good way

For the life of me. I cannot beat out Lucian

[swift swan]

what team?

[zealous karma]

I like it when my tech can sync nuke before that but otherwise

It’s not a fun param

Especially for 15K

[void wyvern]

15k?

[zealous karma]

Sound 3K points each round

[void wyvern]

Ahhh. That sounds painfully fun.

[zealous karma]

Last week was super fun

Ghetsus SSKris SCDiantha was a super fun team

81K from Ghetsus never thought I’d see the day

[void wyvern]

Even though it’s sync 3 I’m still impressed

Also critical strike 1

[toxic cobalt]

Steel-weak Bertha week 3, Electric-weak Aaron weak 4

[swift swan]

I never felt like steel-weak bertha was hard

Hop likes postsync anyway

[toxic cobalt]

I felt it

[swift swan]

electric-weak aaron felt harder because of that bulk and heal order

my EX Hau will be back with a vengeance!

[toxic cobalt]

I think I literally complained "Hop you are specifically designed for this why are you so bad"

[swift swan]

omw to use hop and gloria then

[bright furnace]

I’m bringing in the big boys to send him into the shadow realm

[void wyvern]

Don’t love going for a second sync only for that sync to…not crit

[swift swan]

me with my ghetsis runs

[toxic cobalt]

I've always preferred dps units

[zealous karma]

I recall pre syncing with jasmine

Against Bertha

[toxic cobalt]

How many head start units did that take?

[swift swan]

richuuu what happened to your specialist role I want us to match colors

[void wyvern]

[swift swan]

I took strength 12 params for steel-weak bertha because I was worried not being able to presync... but I ended up almost presyncing anyway with Hop/EX Steven/Masked Royal. could've presynced comfortably if I had used my usual hyper offensive params

[toxic cobalt]

Don't listen to Dreamy and his +12 strength lies

[swift swan]

ikr, regret

full attack full PoH or bust

[bright furnace]

I’m a strength 12 believer

[swift swan]

I love it when I kill mid before sync. presync gives me great dopamine

[toxic cobalt]

The absolute gall of this man

[swift swan]

can't relate, I use anni N and ignore the endurance

[zealous karma]

Just masked Royal and hop

[zealous karma]

I’ll put. On for now I just dislike the red and green color for the role lel

[bright furnace]

I’m so used to seeing your F2P runs I’m just learning about the non F2P units you have…

[toxic cobalt]

I've got a lv29 SS Lusamine somewhere

[bright furnace]

[void wyvern]

If you told me aurchos had never summoned in their life. I’d believe you.

[bright furnace]

Aurochs channeling inner chest

[swift swan]

??? all this time I thought aurochs just has an alternate account for f2p

then a regular account for all the limited units with EX'd legendary adventure pairs and the like

[toxic cobalt]

I don't have that much of not having a life

[swift swan]

so do you still exchange the powerboost and EX for free units, just that you don't use them?

or you just never exchanged them from the shop and let the events pass

[toxic cobalt]

I have them stored ofc.

In case I need them

[bright furnace]

Aurochs has all the OP fire units

[toxic cobalt]

Don't have AnniN

Or SS hilda

Gems too low

[bright furnace]

[void wyvern]

[plucky pewter]

gems are never to low, its always the games fault for not giving banner unit on first summon

[zealous karma]

Non saver mentality

[tired sleet]

It’s always the games fault for making Stone Edge hit smh

[chilly sparrow]

Can anyone suggest build lineup for bertha and lucian? I tried different setup but did not work

[tired sleet]

Lucian has doubled SpDef, so use a Physical strike if possible
SS Erika is a great option for Bertha

[chilly sparrow]

Is it ok for non bug physical? My only physical is 3/5 guzman non grid

[swift swan]

Yes, you can offtype

[fringe valve]

I think B Thunderbolt still should be enough under wise entry

[chilly sparrow]

Ok i will try new setup for non bug type dps

[void wyvern]

Adrenaline Noland is actually pretty decent. Not amazing but it definitely helped me clear out Lucian

[tired sleet]

Bugsy isn’t that bad either

[void wyvern]

I tried bugsy but I couldn’t actually kill Lucian in time to pre sync

Lucy my beloved

[zealous karma]

She had no way to get Spatk on that team which makes this ehen more wow

[tired sleet]

Her sync is physical

[trail smelt]

Ohh ok that makes sense

[tired sleet]

Pike Queen Poison Fang or whatever

[zealous karma]

Oh I thought it was sludge bomb sync lel

[bright furnace]

That’s a very surprising damage number

[toxic cobalt]

Redlax in zone

[swift swan]

2 sync buffs, Red, zone

[void wyvern]

Yep. Lucy sucks

[zealous karma]

I woundnt say that

[zealous karma]

If you use rock smash you can get def debuffs and probably reach 99K

[dusty crater]

Also, sshilbert was incredibly funny for Lucian.

Still was doing 7K damage even with wise entry x2.

[keen jasper]

Just like how SS Wally carried fairy types, Fall Iris carried poison types

[void wyvern]

I might 3/5 fall Iris so I can get more poison carry

[keen jasper]

I just EX-ed Glacia just because I can and I'll use her next week

For ice-weak Bertha

[swift swan]

striker Glacia?

[spring fable]

This ok now? Made some changes after some advice

Candice prolly gonna die after 1 hail

[frosty axle]

Physical bertha gets countered by ice shell and healthy buffer

going to be fun tanking in hail

[swift swan]

Looks okay!

[frosty axle]

yes at 29 level it

[wicked otter]

Damn this sinnoh, using sp atk on sp atk enemy would be hell

My zerena cant kill lucian even on hard

But it was pretty easy for victini

I wonder how hard csmm would be

[toxic cobalt]

Wise entry be like that

[wicked otter]

Yea crazy bulk, it limits sync pair for off typing

[wicked otter]

If maybe setting sun with rapidash is a hassle, maybe try using def debuffer instead

[spring fable]

How so is it a hassle? It’s just clicking it

[wicked otter]

Maybe not that troublesome in csmm, but usually it kind of hard in lg and i rarely keep track of the turn and end up using skills when no sun up haha

Though that's just an option

[spring fable]

Ah understand

If I do go with def debuffer, doesn’t really benefit because pikachu is special

[swift swan]

pikachu? they meant rapidash in that victini team

which I think is fine

in CSMM you usually only need two uses of weather anyway, so it's not that bad

[spring fable]

[rose ermine]

Bertha got swept

Rowlet just too good

[keen jasper]

Mallow did a lot of damage with Bertha only having -4 Atk. and no CS2 on her

[toxic cobalt]

The…one bird?

[onyx ice]

Selene is probably the unit that suffers the most from not being fully evolved

[rose ermine]

Oh shit Crobat is a bat not a bird

[rose ermine]

Still,ball is better ss

[onyx ice]

Yes but she loses like 70% of her kit

[rose ermine]

Can compensate restrain with grassy terrain

[spring fable]

crobird

[onyx ice]

Yes, but restrain + grassy terrain is much better, and she's a decent ghost physical dps

I mean with SS Lyra you can clear the stage even with Ramos

[rose ermine]

I still see no need to evolve rowlet

It works well rn

[mellow linden]

If you’re fine losing at least half the kit then you do you

[onyx ice]

Not that decidueye has insane DPS to being with, but rowlet DPS is terrible

Leaf blade bp is low, attack stat is low (even lower than decidueye) without restrain it loses his best multiplier, the sync also losespthe nice +1 crit but still with reduced bp

[toxic cobalt]

Rowlett abuse on my discord?

[onyx ice]

And i think you can't even pick the +25 sync tiles, because the name of the sync is different

But is definitely cuter than decidueye, that's a given

It's just that rowlet is the unit that gains the most from full evolution

[swift swan]

I can see why you don't want to evolve Mudkip or Popplio to take advantage of their one-gauge move for gauntlet purposes, but yeah Rowlet's only advantage over Decidueye is it's cuter

[mellow linden]

Primarina has Sing though

[trail smelt]

I thought sing was one of the main draws of using Elio

[swift swan]

some LA bosses get immunity eventually and I think that's when the water gun (was it water gun?) spamming can come in handy

you don't want to spam Sing if it's a guaranteed fail anyway, it just cuts down your animation window and thus reduces the time for gauge to regenerate imo

[old orchid]

Note that 50% of Elio grid is Sparkling Aria stuff

[chilly sparrow]

is it worth for elio for the sync grid for sparkling aura?

i mean u have to use it right for it to have benefits

4 slot move

[toxic cobalt]

If you want to do damage with Elio

Personally I use him as a sleep bot

[chilly sparrow]

ok, Ive been trying to up some of my sync pairs to complete the champion stadium to gain more medal in 1 week

will try to see if his upgrade will do wonders .thanks

[toxic cobalt]

Medal? There are better water types

If you want damage dealers

[chilly sparrow]

i only have limited sync pairs, been getting dupes always on 5star tickets. but thansk anyways will keep visiting here for more infos and guides

good stuff guys!

[onyx ice]

If you just care about sing, water gun is better to pass turns

Sparkling aria still has his utility, and sing can still kinda work as 1 gauge spam, but at least we can still have an argument

For mudkip we can also have an argument, you need swampert for any kind of water damage, but if you just care only about rain, water gun is an 1 gauge spam

But rowlet doesn't bring any utility, you don't get nothing by sacrificing DPS, sync and utility, since the 1 gauge spam is pointless and his kit revolves on restrain, yes you can still DPS by bringing stuffs like, nessa, allister or SS serena, but takle just doesn't add anything to the battle

But the game is easy enough that we can still prioritize favs over meta

[mellow linden]

So run Cyrus for Water damage

Run Elio or Misty + Starmie as Support for filling Water into the Type medal or something, I guess

[quaint solar]

Did anyone one did a 15/18 run for this CS.

[mellow linden]

Someone probably did, but you don't need to do 15 types week 1. Usually 9-12 types on week 1 is a good range to shoot for

[manic mica]

Hello

I cant beat lucian

Round 4

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode or Master Mode, how many points if Master Mode, and what team have you been trying thus far?

[manic mica]

Master mode

2k points

I have tried to off type it with Zerena

I know that attack does more damage than sp attack for this round but

I only have alder as bug striker

[mellow linden]

Can you show us your roster (ideally from the move level menu)? That would help us give the best advice

[manic mica]

Okay

[mellow linden]

And let us know who you already used

[mellow linden]

I question the spoiler tagging, but whatever.

Could try Sonia + Lusamine + Bugsy

Bugsy for Sync, Lusamine for Lunge

[manic mica]

Oh i didnt meant to spoiler tag it.

I apologise for it

[mellow linden]

It happens

[manic mica]

I cant do it

[mellow linden]

Why didn’t you do 1st Sync with Sonia?

And why has the left side taken so much damage?

[manic mica]

Even when i synced with sonia

Bugsy dont do enough damage

[mellow linden]

Is Bugsy gridded?

[manic mica]

Yeah

[mellow linden]

His Sync should be doing a lot of damage then. Why has the left side taken so much damage?

Wait, are you just attacking a random target each turn or something?

[manic mica]

No

I was trying to lower reniculus attack because it did a lot of damages to yamper

Also my yamper dont have vigilance. (I just went trough 100 cookies without vigilance)

Nvm

The last one was the one

[mellow linden]

Reuniclus won’t deal less damage because of attack debuffs, it uses only special moves

What parameters are you using?

[manic mica]

Post sync

[mellow linden]

Could see if pre-Sync works since you won’t survive Sync either way (Lusamine is too squishy)

[manic mica]

This is my bugsy grid

[mellow linden]

And don’t bother targeting anything other than center until center goes down

[mellow linden]

Seems fine

Though again I question the spoiler tagging on everything thus far

[manic mica]

It does it auto

[mellow linden]

Should be able to turn it off, idk though

[manic mica]

Sorry now it should be gone

Still cant do with pre sync

[zealous karma]

Do you or can you grid bugsy

[mellow linden]

You’ll need to quadqueue, which might require some resetting or using Hop instead of Sonia since if Sonia gets hit before you Sync quadqueue will be impossible.

You straight up can’t let Lucian Sync

[mellow linden]

They did

[mellow linden]

Right here

[zealous karma]

Replace sonia with Noland

[manic mica]

Im trying to quadque. But sonia literally just die right before she can do her move to grant me the sync

[mellow linden]

Uh, I do not recommend triple strike against 2k Lucian

[zealous karma]

Not sonia

Who’s her name

Lusamine

I’m trapped outside so head not working

[mellow linden]

Could try Noland and see if he works

[mellow linden]

Even using her Potions?

[zealous karma]

I don’t recall lucian hitting that hard

[mellow linden]

Unfortunately I’m gonna be unavailable for a bit now

[zealous karma]

I’ll try to help

[void wyvern]

Good afternoon

[manic mica]

Thanks

[zealous karma]

#1015843845008793690 message @manic mica this is my F2P clear for the stage if that can help you sonia is much better than hop if yours is 3/5 I can try and test it for you and record a clear if my phone data. Allows me to upload

[manic mica]

my sonia is 5/5

Also i cant open your link for some reason

[void wyvern]

Sonia/Bugsy/Redlax would work. You double sync the middle and Lucian should go down.

Another double sync setup would be Sonia/Bugsy/Champ Iris.

Use Iris’s TM after the first sync to make sure you can sync again before Lucian does.

Sonia. Tm / Tm / Tm

Bugsy. Tm/ Tm / sure crit

Redlax Rock smash / rock smash / TM

[zealous karma]

Check community content then

And scroll up a bit

https://streamable.com/r83e8j

Or if that didn’t come up @manic mica here

[void wyvern]

It’s surprising to see someone else using their support on left. Everyone I see does it on right.

[zealous karma]

I always do supoort left tech right striker mid

My sonia has adrenaline and bugsy has cs2 sorry the video didn’t catch that

[void wyvern]

Video shows bugsy with super powered 3

[manic mica]

Thanks

[void wyvern]

Good luck!

[zealous karma]

Both work one is just a slight minor upgrade

[void wyvern]

[manic mica]

im now done with this week csmm

Thanks

[void wyvern]

Congrats!

[swift swan]

hi richu, happy birthday

[zealous karma]

Ty it’s not my birthday just yet in my time lel

[swift swan]

yeah I might be busy later on so while you're active, might as well

[zealous karma]

Ty lel but I’m always active

[swift swan]

so you have no life

[zealous karma]

Yes

[quaint solar]

Not to be bothersome. Did anyone made a 15/18 video yet for unlocking MM. Or do I have to deep search stage clears to find it

[zealous karma]

Since it’s not 15K there’s def some thinns you can replace like
Psychic: Sycamore Misty Gio
Bug: Bugsy Hop Nanu
Grass: Grass striker Skyla any third
Fire: Silver/any fire strike Spd support filler
Poison: Koga Cheryl filler

[swift swan]

try searching stage clears. I'm sure there's an old video for unlocking MM since Sinnoh CS is now a rerun

[toxic cobalt]

Might have different types though.

My clear had 11 #1011675077764456519 message

You can replace Torchic for Sabrina and Acerola for any type probably

[dim depot]

Is there any Lodge N team that can beat Flint? I had such high hopes but tech nukes are overrated and he does no damage.

[keen jasper]

Did you sleep the enemy before nuking?

[dim depot]

No

[keen jasper]

Then you're missing it out then

[dim depot]

Oh, it's not about spdef drop and ramming speed?

[keen jasper]

It depends on what abilities you're going to use for damage whether Psychic or sync

[dim depot]

There was one run where the Psychic attacks were actually hitting pretty hard, but it wasn't enough.

[keen jasper]

Did it max out N's Sp. Def. and lowered the enemy's Sp. Def.?

[dim depot]

I tried one with lowering spdef with girafarig. Worth it to raise spdef too?

[keen jasper]

If you have the support for it yeah

[dim depot]

Wow even with all the buffs and sleep, sync damage still garbo. Oh well, maybe he's not ready for the hardest elite 4 yet.

[swift swan]

do you have terrain?

[keen jasper]

Can I see your grid on him?

[keen jasper]

I forgot to mention to you that Lodge N's sleep multiplier is only on his sync

[swift swan]

just grab rude awakening, double down, and the two sync tiles

if you're focusing on nuke

his nuke has an innate where it gets stronger if target's sp def is lowered so bringing lucian is already a good idea

then just make sure the enemy is asleep when you're nuking

[dim depot]

His Psychic is doing much more consistent damage. Better off letting Lucian sync.

[swift swan]

of course it does, with that kind of grid

brainteaser and smart cookie affect your DPS

[toxic cobalt]

How to choose between DPS and nuke

[swift swan]

not to mention his ramming speed passive

[keen jasper]

Also, Bappy Hirthday to you

[swift swan]

try something like this for nuke maybe

make sure the enemy is 1) asleep and 2) -6 sp defense

[swift swan]

flip a coin

[dim depot]

I guess a sleep strat works with a sleep team. N's can miss, he's better off doing something else.

Oh, but that Calm Mind tile would have been nice. He raises stats so slow otherwise.

[swift swan]

ah, no terrain

and N's special attack isn't even maxed :/

5 to 6 doesn't add much though iirc

[formal vigil]

Happy birthday

[meager agate]

my favorite moment was when koga said “it’s venoshockin’ time” and venoshocked all over the togekiss

[swift swan]

Ah yes I love that quote too. "It's venoshockin' time" is so iconic

[spring fable]

Swapped acerola out for Bertha

[summer flare]

I have

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, Koga's damage is pretty impressive against poison-weak content

He's at 4* and I didn't upgrade his poison theme skill

[summer flare]

Round 1 Aaron with silver, SS elesa and Gio classic
Round 2 Bertha with sycamore, SS Erika and hop
Round 3 flint with Giovanni, Roxanne and SS Kris
Round 4 Lucian with Alder, Skyla and BP Cobalion

Cynthia with Allister, Koga and Ingo

It didn't require multiple tries for any of the stages, but some were dangerously close

[lunar meadow]

I'm trying to understand what Cobalion was doing here...

It looks like nothing?

[summer flare]

Buffing crit so alder can shoot hyper beam faster

[lunar meadow]

Wouldn't anyone that does +2 be better?

Then you could also bring an accuracy buff. Or drop enemy offenses. Or buff your sdef

[summer flare]

It was just an easy way to slot in a fighting type for the 15/18

[lunar meadow]

Ohhhh

He was giving you the medal. Got it.

[summer flare]

Yes

[lunar meadow]

That makes sense then. I assume people are all doing master mode

[summer flare]

I never played Sinnoh before

So I'll only do it next week

[lunar meadow]

Ah ok, well congrats on getting 15!

[summer flare]

Was answering the person who asked if anyone did 15/18

Then sharing teams

Thank you!

[lunar meadow]

When I'm helping people I always aim for like 12 the first week. Because people asking for help rarely have enough good units without a couple dupes, and it takes two weeks anyway 😅

[summer flare]

I try to get 15 as a challenge

I still have some uncomfortable types to fill, such as fighting and poison

[lunar meadow]

Poison is a lot easier now with BP Janinebat

But also, you can just toxic stall a fight

Fighting I usually recommend Hariyama as a potion support or Medicham as a buffing support for players with limited options. Both are still really good for Hard Mode

[summer flare]

For now I already have enough off type carries to skip stalling if I don't need to fill types

I still wanna be able to beat everything on-type one day

[spring fable]

Same here, did 15/18!

[summer flare]

Since as much as having SST red and ash helps, I really only like seeing them on master mode when it is to enact carnage with them together against electric weak

[lunar meadow]

#1011619113501720586

I much prefer on-type full teams 😉

[summer flare]

I don't have enough pairs for that

Fighting would be a nightmare, fairy would be undoable

[lunar meadow]

I also enjoy challenges.

Ive done 15 supports runs, 5x toxic stall runs, and even a few individual fights with mono-species

[summer flare]

Since I just have 3 fairy pairs

[lunar meadow]

Ya, you need Gardevoir, Grimmsnarl, Whimsicott, etc to have a damage dealer for it

[summer flare]

Yeah. Fighting also has that painful lack of a 3/5 bea to carry things through

Electric and water are easy for me. Grass could also work against physical stages, psychic is also comfortable, having more than 3 pairs to fit the bill

Fire would be low-key miserable until silver's power boosts get a rerun

If gladion counts as normal, then I could kinda do it?

[quaint solar]

You have the screen shot

[lunar meadow]

I have a normal team as well.

Snorlax, Silvally, and either egg lickitung or egg Snorlax depending on needs

[mellow linden]

They listed who they used up above

[quaint solar]

Don't know by name. A screen shot of the hall win and or the presets would do me right

[toxic cobalt]

I posted a 12/18 above too if you missed it as well

[quaint solar]

Was it a screen shot of the presets or hall win. That would be better for me

[toxic cobalt]

Hall win

But as usual you don't need 15, you can be a bit flexible and you may have some great units

[quaint solar]

Can you send me the link of the screen shot. I scrolled up but did not see it.

[toxic cobalt]

#1011675077764456519 message This one, and I suggest switching Torchic for Sabrina, and you can switch Acerola for something else too no problem.

[swift swan]

We're barely halfway through the week and I already can't wait to kick Sinnoh's ass next week

Too much dopamine

[dark osprey]

Aaron W

Oh sheesh. Not next week

[keen jasper]

Can't wait to use SS Wally on fairy-weak Cynthia

[dark osprey]

Btw belated happy birthday Nov

[dark osprey]

What's your fairy team?

Would really like to see 3/5 ss Wally destroy fairy weak

[swift swan]

Should I go for my EX Gladion, Mina, or both

EX Red/EX Gladion/Mina doesn't sound like a gauge friendly team hmm

I failed to make Gladion work last time, wasn't skilled enough

[keen jasper]

EX Sabrina, EX 5/5 SS Wally and Lodge Lillie

Imma try to monotype ice-weak Bertha with EX Glacia, Ghetsis and Pryce

I could probably use SS Wally as a support for Lodge Lillie, or I can do the vice versa

[dark osprey]

Oh nice. Lodge Lillie dps build?

Wonder how she does

[keen jasper]

Her sync nuke can be massive

[dark osprey]

True. Guess you'll go for support EX first then

Wally does have a decent nuke himself. Wonder how they compare

Especially 1/5 Wally

[keen jasper]

Sabrina is my closest unit to SS Brendan

Though I'll use SS Wally to debuff everyone's Sp. Def.

[dark osprey]

Oh so you've got Wally at 3/5?

[keen jasper]

#1009554906568462476 message

[dark osprey]

Lolol sorry

[keen jasper]

It's all cool and good

[dark osprey]

Then definitely sync with Wally

[keen jasper]

I'll sync with Sabrina first

To get the EX support sync buff

And also mega her too

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Either ways. Wally would definitely kill centre first sync with -2 sync countdown as well

[keen jasper]

Lodge Lillie can trap everyone so that Mind Boggler can trigger

[dark osprey]

Oh that's nice

[keen jasper]

And she also has Satisfied Snarl 4

[dark osprey]

She's a really good debuffing utility unit ngl

Even has synchro healing very useful for LG

So you're doing damage plus healing the team

[keen jasper]

And she also has both physical and special attacks

Flexible too

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah nice point

Didn't notice that

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, Lodge Lillie did 25k off-type against this week's Cynthia, not bad

Though she'll perform much better on-type since she has Double Down and SEUN on her TM

[long thicket]

Managed to beat Bertha surprisingly well.
Currently trying the other 3.

Aaron's extreme healing is back.

[keen jasper]

That's on the last week

[long thicket]

He heals 8k this week.

[keen jasper]

What params did you put on him?

[long thicket]

The regular ones, I believe.

For post-sync.

This time he healed 7k.

[keen jasper]

You do realize you can put in your own parameters?

[mellow linden]

What team are you using?

[long thicket]

Yeah, but I'm too concerned.

I don't wanna do stuff too randomly.

I'd need guidance for that.

So, for Aaron, Reshiram is very good for defeating the side Pokemon and he does pretty solid damage to Heracross.

But Heracross heals a lot when he's low.

I'm trying a Blaine and N combo.

[keen jasper]

That's just the First Aid talking

[mellow linden]

And the 3rd teammate is?

[long thicket]

Been trying Evelyn as my go-to, but I can switch.
I have three EX supports left.

[mellow linden]

Evelyn would probably still work? Gimme a sec to check some things

[long thicket]

I know it's a bit dumb, but I always go for on-type support as a first try because that's how my teams have been registered.

But I know everything on-type isn't always the solution.

[mellow linden]

You have a tank that can buff crit?

Or Sp. Atk., either one is good

Also, are you making sure that “No Stat Reductions” is turned off?

[long thicket]

I think N has critical buff in his kit to begin with.
And uh, no, it's activated.

So what instead of that?

[mellow linden]

So 1), get either a crit buffer or a Sp. Atk. buffer, N will take too long to set himself up, and 2) swap No Stat Reductions for Max HP 2 so that N can get Sp. Def. debuffs via Mind Games (and depending on what you’re running maybe his Attack/Sp. Atk. debuffs from Noble Roar)

[long thicket]

I see a good amount of options in the supports, but how do I know if these affect the whole team and not just the user?

[mellow linden]

…Read the moves?

[keen jasper]

You can probably try max HP and offensive parameters

[mellow linden]

If it’s [insert name] All then it affects the whole team, and Trainer Move descriptions will say who they affect

[long thicket]

Yeah, sorry, I'm not used to do that.

I think Piers might help, he's EX as well.

[mellow linden]

You can also use the filters, though that’s not perfect

[mellow linden]

He could work

[long thicket]

Yeah, been basing myself on the filters.

[mellow linden]

Selecting “All Allies” and either Sp. Atk. or crit buffs should show you most of the pairs that do that. Though there are some outliers like SC Lillie

[long thicket]

I actually tried Piers earlier today, uh...
Well we'll see.

[mellow linden]

If he doesn’t work you could show us your Support roster so we can see who you’re working with

[formal vigil]

do you have sabrina? she buffs special attack and crit also has reflect too help with survival

[dim depot]

When a grid tile gives the buff and you can't filter for it...

[mellow linden]

Also iirc SC Lillie straight up doesn’t show up for teamwide Sp. Atk. buffs even though that’s the main point of her Trainer Move

[long thicket]

Would Blaine and N be a good combo, though?
Right now, everyone lost at first sync.

[mellow linden]

Sun + Blue Flare is good in and of itself, yeah

[long thicket]

Oh, by the way, I found some screen recorders, although it creates a small icon.

I can just reinstall one.

[mellow linden]

If you want to feel free

[long thicket]

So I don't know what other people are using, probably something paid.
But yes, I suppose that'll help you hugely.

[keen jasper]

Paid assuming you want to remove the video recorder's watermark

And OFC the other perks too

[frosty axle]

I use the free az screen recorder

[long thicket]

Sorry about the awkward cropping, but I got it.

[mellow linden]

Could do Kiawe

Get Kiawe 1 Trainer Move MP Refresh so that N can use his Trainer Move once and start spamming Blue Flare

[long thicket]

This is what Kiawe's grid currently is.
https://pokemon-masters-stuff.github.io/?e=0&grid=AAECAwQFExYXGBocHyEiJSYnKQ==&o=750&p=Marowak&s=3#/

[mellow linden]

Probably works. Could switch Shadow Bone MGR with the 2nd Potion MPR if the energy allows

[void wyvern]

Is unfortutious useful? It’s never been that game changing to me.

[long thicket]

Did that and lost at the sync.

[void wyvern]

What battle are you doing?

[long thicket]

Aaron.

Trying to beat anyone else than Bertha.

[void wyvern]

How many merges do you have on your N?

[long thicket]

What do you mean, merges?

[void wyvern]

Move level, example 2/5

[long thicket]

1, sadly.

Only got 1/5 for each master fair.

[void wyvern]

Let me do some quick thinking

Is this in hard mode or master mode?

[long thicket]

Elite.

2k.

[void wyvern]

Okay I’ve got an idea

Using your ex normal Lillie, run adrenaline on your grid and try to finish aaron with a second sync from N before Aaron sync’s

[long thicket]

I'm honestly lost at times.
I can try that.

Not fast enough.

[void wyvern]

Not fast enough for?

[long thicket]

Avoiding the sync.

I see I'd have to rework the grid, but okay.

Oh wait, actually, I already have it...

Triple queue-ing is tough when you have more limited tiles.

[void wyvern]

That’s why we would run Adrenaline so we don’t have to rely on triple queue

[long thicket]

And when you're unable to use one action per trainer.

But I have it.

On the top right.

[full mesa]

For LG yeah.

[void wyvern]

@long thicket let us know if you run into further issues

[long thicket]

Well I couldn't even beat it.

[rigid flint]

What speed do you run your battles at?

Running at 1x or 2x speed tends to help me quad queue better

[trail smelt]

Triple gotta go fast

Consequently I can’t quad queue consistently LMAO

[long thicket]

Well, I use 3, but maybe I should lower it.
But yeah, I struggle with a triple queue once I'm out of trainer moves.

[toxic cobalt]

Definitely go slower, you shouldn’t regularly struggle

[austere quest]

Going to largely Offtype Week 2 so I can unlock MM

[hidden ore]

Hmm what would you recommend for Bertha round 2?

What parameters

Tried Hop & Erika & Xerneas

Ss Erika

[keen jasper]

Can I see your SS Erika build?

Also, Bertha is full physical

[hidden ore]

@keen jasper

[keen jasper]

Is that a sync nuke build?

[toxic cobalt]

Seems a waste of a Sycamore

[keen jasper]

I have mixed feelings about that SS Erika build

[toxic cobalt]

What's a good build?

[hidden ore]

Yes

[keen jasper]

This is my sync nuke build for her

[swift swan]

#1010274591601598555

[full mesa]

I'm so confused with Flint team.

[toxic cobalt]

SS Steven in zone

[full mesa]

Yeah but even then he needs a sync or two. What does Hop do in there being weak to fire?

[void wyvern]

SS-Steven goes absolutely crazy before sync in zone.

[toxic cobalt]

Die

[void wyvern]

Hop exists to take a fire blast.

Although Flint is mostly special so weird shield is useful.

[full mesa]

Fat pig can't survive after you first sync if the Ai is aggressive.

[ripe onyx]

im having major issues with staying alive in aaron hard mode - is there a good f2p tank for him?

[toxic cobalt]

Skyla

[full mesa]

Hop too

[toxic cobalt]

Consider using a unit to lower attack as well

Ghetsis or Mina

[viral moat]

Hop is literally just there to take a few hits

Plus I like him

And couldn't find another place for him

[ripe onyx]

ah ty

my current team is silver, lyra and blaine - ill swap out lyra?

[viral moat]

I mean it'd work i think

[toxic cobalt]

What move level Lyra?

[viral moat]

Does your silver have powerboost?

[ripe onyx]

2/5 lyra, and no this is base silver

[toxic cobalt]

Terribly Lyra

[viral moat]

Oh. Damn.

Base silver kinda mid

[toxic cobalt]

Base Silver will work

Is it Dauntless Silver?

[ripe onyx]

dauntless?

[viral moat]

Can't lower spatk

[toxic cobalt]

Lucky skill

[ripe onyx]

ah no its crit strike 2

[toxic cobalt]

Ah, physical Silver

If you need to you can honestly rely on Silver for sun and just dps

[viral moat]

Silver with sacred fire is good

[toxic cobalt]

Run Silver with Hop and the buffs are sorted

[ripe onyx]

alright ill go do hop's la ty

[ripe onyx]

okay ive tried and i keep getting 1 shotted by his megahorn

[swift swan]

Hop? His passive reduces damage taken when he's on full HP so that might help

Or... Reset until you don't get megahorned early on

[ripe onyx]

okay whats happening is i can get the heracross down to 1/4hp?

and then hop gets megahorned and dies

[swift swan]

Did you manage to pull off first sync at all before hop dies?

[full mesa]

That's a BS passive. Forcing you to damage on R1 and delay your buffing.

[ripe onyx]

okay i changed my strategy a bit - im able to use 2 sync moves, kill the heracross

and then get swept by earthquake

[swift swan]

Hm? Hop's free to use his TM for the first 3 turns. It's just that his Healthy Benefits 5 gives a bit of a safety net in case Aaron decides to open the battle with Megahorn

[swift swan]

Ahh, couldn't get some potions in?

[ripe onyx]

i ran out of potions :(

[swift swan]

Welp, some bad RNG then you killed mid, that's good progress though

[ripe onyx]

just as a general - this is my first true attempt at cs - whats the general strategy i need to be doing?

[swift swan]

Master mode or hard mode? Either way, just make sure to triple queue correctly, quadqueue whenever possible, and the general rule of thumb is to kill mid first

[ripe onyx]

hard mode - ive been playing for about a week

[swift swan]

Oof, and you started with sinnoh 💀 Godspeed

Well if you need any help don't hesitate asking here CS is endgame content so it's not easy if you don't have enough minimally invested units, Sinnoh especially

Just making sure, have you maxed out all the free legendary adventures units to 5/5 move level and 20/20 potential?

[ripe onyx]

ive got most of them to that yeah

havent traded away the unique tickets

[toxic cobalt]

Is Hop gridded?

Is Silver gridded?

[ripe onyx]

hop has the minimal build in the google doc - silver has a bit but i ran out of orbs

[toxic cobalt]

I'm unfamiliar, is the minimal grid mpr?

[ripe onyx]

yep

[toxic cobalt]

Syncing twice before the opponent is fantastic btw

Alright, so you get full crit and attack. That's a good start.

You don't oneshot the sides afterwards?

[ripe onyx]

didnt get the chance to attack before they killed me w

[toxic cobalt]

Who is the third?

[swift swan]

Yeah, use their custom power ups. 20/20 gives nice stat boosts

[ripe onyx]

blaine atm

[toxic cobalt]

Dump him

Run Mina

Use her to debuff

Also are you using Hop's four bar when you get free move?

[swift swan]

Aurochs with the big brain plays then I guess Silver's grid needs to be adjusted for the Sacred Fire stuffs only

[ripe onyx]

yep im using behemoth

[toxic cobalt]

I never run Silver with a sun setter. Waste of a slot.

If you can reliably clear mid, then you can focus on debuffing the sides.

Remember the initial debuffs matter the most so getting two units to -2 is better than getting one to -4

etc.

[ripe onyx]

alright ill give this team a shot

[toxic cobalt]

Honestly impressive you're killing before they sync

Aaron is a bulky lad

[swift swan]

I never run Silver on CS these days

[toxic cobalt]

Same principle for LG

[ripe onyx]

AW MAN

i got here

[swift swan]

In LG it's the other way around for me. I use Silver with SS Erika and Silver just keeps syncing to give Erika the sun i'm still a 1/5 ss erika haver

[swift swan]

Was Silver at +3 crit, at least?

Did you get to use his TM at least once?

[toxic cobalt]

Are you being beaten up by Endurance?

[ripe onyx]

i think i took recoil or something? and silver went from 20% to 0

[toxic cobalt]

Are you using Sacred fire?

[ripe onyx]

if youre meaning ill show you yeah i managed to use it twice

yes i am

my current strategy is i spam all my trainer moves (i'll show you, hop to it) at the beginning of the round and then i start attacking

[toxic cobalt]

You only need to I'll show you once, and even then only if Hop doesn't mpr

[swift swan]

Ah, Silver can't raise his own attack with TM pre-powerboost, sadly

So Hop needs a TM MPR to get Silver to +6 attack

[toxic cobalt]

+4 is clearly fine given above. The problem is endurance. I bet you that scyther got a move off after being hit.

[ripe onyx]

ahh yeah so ill just attack with silver out of the gate

[toxic cobalt]

Try, see if you can get some burns off

Might mean you have to Mina tm first turn but speed should hold after that

Might, depends on how slowly Aaron sets up.

[ripe onyx]

okay yep my current issue is move gauge

[toxic cobalt]

Should be fine after your first sync though right?

Definitely use a Silver tm before your first sync if you need to

[ripe onyx]

its actually at the end - im having to wait for silver to get 3 move gauges even after using his sync move twice

and this allows the scyther to swift me and kill me

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm that confuses me

After your second sync just stop doing stuff with Mina?

No need to queue her up if that's what you're doing

You will sadly need hop to metal claw because endurance is pain

Nov has a sticker for it

[ripe onyx]

I DID IT!!!!@

thank you so much for the help

[swift swan]

Ah, was about to send this but got a bit late

Nice job!

[ripe onyx]

yeah after 2 charms i just stopped using mina + had good hop rng (my last runs he NEVER regained any usages of his tms)

and won

ty!!!!

[swift swan]

TM MPR do be like that sometimes

[ripe onyx]

now for the other 4

but that can happen later

[swift swan]

Good luck!

[toxic cobalt]

Good Hop RNG is so hard to find

[swift swan]

Ikr, for some reason he hates giving me that 1 final crit

[ripe onyx]

before i go
what are good psy grass ghost dps so i can get preparing

[toxic cobalt]

Giovanni. . . . Silver ... Giovanni again...

[swift swan]

You missed Helena sadly

[ripe onyx]

i have her at 1/5

[toxic cobalt]

Why do we want Ghost DPS?

[ripe onyx]

for cynthia

[toxic cobalt]

That's poison

[ripe onyx]

wait shes poison nvm

[toxic cobalt]

Gardenia works in a pinch but she needs Dauntless or no bueno

[swift swan]

Maybe you can post your roster here, from the move level tab. Or use the sync pair tracker https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

So we can recommend some pairs you do have

[ripe onyx]

alright ive got

[void wyvern]

sticker this?

[swift swan]

I've been asking for an Aaron L sticker for months but welp

[void wyvern]

Once it’s electric weak we can hope

[swift swan]

Why is ghetsis still 2/5

And where are the rest of your legendary adventures pairs? Make sure they're 5/5 and 20/20

[ripe onyx]

didnt upgrade him further out of spite i havent finished the rest of them yet but if i need them will do

[swift swan]

Plus ghetsis's EX is running right now so I recommend grabbing that asao

[toxic cobalt]

Giovanni and Sycamore are top priorities

[swift swan]

They'll all be great help. They all range from incredible to pretty useful

[toxic cobalt]

Also you only need to get to 120

Save resources

[void wyvern]

^

[toxic cobalt]

Bianca will make Giovanni even better

Not seeing a grass option. Happily you have Ash so you can cheat one stage

[ripe onyx]

ahhh cause theyre maxed my cyrus, sycamore didnt appear

[void wyvern]

Cyrus even without power boost can cheese stages.

[ripe onyx]

yeah grass is my main worry

he luckily has ex + grid - i speedran the sinnoh event last day

[toxic cobalt]

Ash or Cyrus it. And you have Bertha and SS Wally as well. Zones galore.

[swift swan]

Cyrus for bertha then. Pair with a rain setter to get rid of the sandstorm

[toxic cobalt]

AndCourtney and Volkner

[void wyvern]

Using Cyrus + Winona to cheese Bertha is a great idea

[long thicket]

Ended up winning against Lucian, but it was a clutch.

[void wyvern]

As they say, a win is a win!

[swift swan]

A win is a win especially for Sinnoh

[long thicket]

So now I'm trying to find for Aaron and Flint.
Starting to wonder if I shouldn't go offtype despite good units.

[toxic cobalt]

My Lucian win required a specific 20% chance flinch

[ripe onyx]

master mode sounds like hell tbh LMAO

[swift swan]

N and Volkner for Lucian maybe?

Ash doesn't need terrain to wreck stages

[toxic cobalt]

SS Hilby is there

[ripe onyx]

would SS hilbert work for lucian?

[void wyvern]

It’s a learning experience.

[swift swan]

You'll get used to it with constant practice

[void wyvern]

Can SS Hilbert poke through wise x2?

[toxic cobalt]

Oh damn

[swift swan]

With -6 sp def and rebuff? Imo yes

[toxic cobalt]

I forgot 💀

Glad someone is testing

[swift swan]

I mean the usual N/Hilbert/Volkner can clear electric weak Aaron

[swift swan]

Smh read the pins

[ripe onyx]

alright ill save these and try these in the morning, thank you all so much for the advice!!

[toxic cobalt]

How very dare you

[ripe onyx]

if i fail ill be back here tomorrow WWW

[void wyvern]

Don’t worry, we’re always here camping out.

Feel free to pop in and say hi. We love the company.

[swift swan]

Yeah, I lurk here most of the time

[ripe onyx]

this is really fun but also challenging

for someone so used to mainline

[swift swan]

Me playing mainline games: how do I give vigilance to my mon

My fingers will be constantly tapping the moves as if it's gonna make me attack faster

[toxic cobalt]

"What do you mean multiple weaknesses?"

[swift swan]

What do you mean immune to ground? Only LA Cresselia has that!

[ripe onyx]

'why isnt my zamazenta being instantly killed by being near earthquake'

[void wyvern]

Me playing mainline games: “Shell armour? Don’t you mean vigilance.”

Ngl I was testing normal Lyra against Bertha who sooooomeone totally not dreamy convinced me to ex and I was lowkey wondering “why can’t I use grassy terrain with Lyra?” Until it dawned on me why I couldn’t.

[swift swan]

[long thicket]

I can do a very good sync with Giovanni, doubled with Psychic Zone from Bianca, but Sabrina loses easily against Flint.

[toxic cobalt]

Tank with BIanca

[long thicket]

And Bianca gets one-shotted.

Massive yikes.

One-shot, or very close from defeat with a burn on first hit.

[keen jasper]

He has HE4

[long thicket]

Too much burning.

The sync is extreme for the side Pokemon.

[keen jasper]

Sides have Mind Games 9

[long thicket]

Aaron heals like 8k near the end.

So the healing isn't exclusive to Vespiqueen.

[mellow linden]

He has First Aid on Fire weak

[sinful brook]

Would Noland, Guzma, or a Lunge build Lusamine do best against Lucian? 5/5 on all, no EXs

[mellow linden]

If none are EX then IMO Noland or Lusamine combined with Bugsy and a Support like Hop, 3/5+ Hilbert, 3/5+ Sonia, or 2/5+ Aaron

[long thicket]

Uuugh...

Don't have much fun with that mode sometimes.

[void wyvern]

The trick is to sync nuke fire weak aaron before he can heal.

i think

[mellow linden]

Pretty much

I used regular Hilda and if she’d crit the center it would’ve been super easy. But she didn’t, so it took longer and was more challenging than it should have been

[formal vigil]

[void wyvern]

[mellow linden]

Next week should be pretty free for me

[formal vigil]

same

[void wyvern]

Next week is gonna be free. But I’m going to have to plan my support usage. Otherwise I’ll run out.

[mellow linden]

Cynthia for Aaron, Holiday Nessa + Candice for Bertha, A. Skyla for Lucian, Olivia for Flint, and off-type with SSR Cynthia + SS Korrina for Cynthia

[void wyvern]

Candice user

Offtype? Don’t you mean. Mina

[mellow linden]

Extra Hail is nice

Eh, not a huge Mina fan

[void wyvern]

That’s fair. She requires setup and Champ Iris is her best enabler.

[mellow linden]

Though I suppose I could try Fall Caitlin + Gloria + Lodge Elesa

Actually, yeah, might do that

[formal vigil]

ss wally works well with her too

[void wyvern]

On type? Based.

[mellow linden]

No SS Wally

[long thicket]

Two syncs?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if you quadqueue or have Sync accel you can Sync twice before he can even Sync once

Though if it’s on Round 2 you won’t be able to quadqueue

Btw, what round are you on?

[long thicket]

Um...

You mean the fight?

Or where I get into the fight.

[mellow linden]

How many Elite 4 have you already beat so far

[long thicket]

Bertha and Lucian.
But why would that matter, exactly?

(Noob question about something very important, I bet)

[mellow linden]

Just wanted to make sure you weren’t doing Round 1 Flint

Because that would definitely explain your issues if you were

[zealous karma]

Fairy week cynthia hype

Can’t wait to use 3/5 PSerena

[long thicket]

What does it change, exactly?
I probably didn't notice anything major.

[mellow linden]

Round 1 boosts special moves

So we’d be talking like 1k+ Fire Blast damage

I should know, I tried Round 1 Flint for my 1st attempt, saw that, and immediately switched to Bertha for Round 1

[long thicket]

I possibly could've done it otherwise, but given the difficulty of the other stages, maybe Victor was a savior on that fight.

[mellow linden]

Bertha is honestly the most consistently manageable of the Sinnoh Elite 4

And Grass is a super stacked type

You’d probably have been fine regardless, but Victor’s double AoE nuke potential is handy

[zealous karma]

I thought round one was a special shield?

I’ve been reading that param wrong

For a week straight

Anger

I used double sync buff for Koga

Instead of special

Moyai emoji

[void wyvern]

What’s a good team for P!Serena?

[viral moat]

Tech coin on Monday

[quaint solar]

@frosty axle you said to send you a message

[zealous karma]

Sabrina PDawn herself or sswally

[void wyvern]

SS Wally enables so many fairy units without even accounting fairy zone. It’s impressive.

[long thicket]

So yeah, I recall Cynthia's fight is done to counter Diantha in some ways.

I've been told to do it with a then gridless Mina and it went surprisingly well. (850 points, I believe)

[void wyvern]

It’s that bedazzle that sucks so much if my memory serves.

[zealous karma]

It was but now that fairy zone exists she probably makes the stage oook pathetic

Rip wise entry x2 you won’t be missed

[void wyvern]

I both love/hate the entry x2 skills

[long thicket]

This is kind of a nightmare.

To 10k.

How can Deoxys help with Flint?

[mellow linden]

By annihilating him, I guess?

SS Steven is kind of a win button

[void wyvern]

Support Deoxys is my favourite support /jk

[long thicket]

Can't use him well rn.

[mellow linden]

Gimme a sec to reference his kit

[long thicket]

Sure.

[void wyvern]

SS Steven is so bonkers. I partially regret not pulling.

[mellow linden]

Should just be change to Attack Forme, spam Psycho Boost, Sync when it comes up, basically

[long thicket]

I have EX Lucian, though.
Better sync still?

[void wyvern]

Yeah it’s

“Attack!”/ psycho boost /psycho boost /sync /win

[mellow linden]

SS Steven has AoE Sync in Attack Forme

[long thicket]

Oh, does he?

[mellow linden]

Yep

[void wyvern]

Expanded sync it’s called

[mellow linden]

Expanded Sync passive

[long thicket]

Should I sync with an EX support first?

[void wyvern]

No, his sync should kill just fine.

[mellow linden]

Just make sure you’ve got Psychic Terrain

[long thicket]

Aight.
Also, I'll EX this Steven eventually due to the song.

So, Bianca.

[mellow linden]

Yep

[long thicket]

And any good support?
I'm guessing Sabrina is less relevant than with Giovanni due to attack mode?

[mellow linden]

Sounds good, SS Steven is a great EX since he basically becomes both a Striker EX and a Tech EX in Attack Forme

[mellow linden]

Pretty much, if you have a better tank you can use them

[void wyvern]

A support who boosts lots of stats. SS Steven has rising tide naturally on his sync.

does crit count for rising tide?

[mellow linden]

Tbh if you have SSA Cynthia and aren’t using her anywhere else she’d be a good option since Fighting Zone and Psychic Terrain can coexist

[zealous karma]

He already maxed his own Spatk and crit

[mellow linden]

I believe so

[zealous karma]

Yes it does

[void wyvern]

Aura Cynthia is a great choice.

[long thicket]

Yeah, I skipped that Cynthia due to pitying the chus and her not having a properly functional zone.
Skipping a master fair is a questionable move, but I got two around that time, so I shouldn't regret much.

[zealous karma]

Any support that can buff 2 stats works

Skyla in this case could be nice

[mellow linden]

Nah, skipping her is fine. No must-haves in this game

[long thicket]

I'll see for a defense buffer, maybe.

[mellow linden]

Since it’s Flint you’re facing Liza, Evelyn, BP Morty, or MistyDuck would be good

[long thicket]

I'll try Misty.

She can heal burns, if I recall.

[mellow linden]

Full Heal, yeah

You’ll wanna fish for at least one Trainer Move MP Refresh tho

[long thicket]

Any specific tile for that?

https://pokemon-masters-stuff.github.io/?e=0&grid=AAECAwQFBggLDhATFBcYGSUn&o=750&id=10110010000&s=3#/

I've had this.

Okay, Flint, just KO a Master Fair support that has a +4 in defense with one move, that's cool...

[rigid flint]

Me when Flint OHKO'd my Sabrina with a Fire Blast

It's just bad luck so best to restart again

It's unlikely that he'll use the same move again

[long thicket]

I feel like giving up, tbh.

[empty portal]

Any tips to beat Lucian. Currently on rd 4.

[formal vigil]

Use physical attackers since he has wise entry x2

[empty portal]

Like Golisopod? Or an off typer like Swampert?

[formal vigil]

Physical bug units like golisopod or if you want too you could off type with any strong physical attacker you might have

[empty portal]

my golisopod keeps dying on 1st sync

[trail smelt]

Did he get smacked by an AoE first?

My Guzma can withstand a sync as long as he didn’t get hit by a different attack beforehand

[empty portal]

He survived this time but dies on 2nd sync ugh

[mellow linden]

Lucian shouldn’t be able to Sync more than once

Is this Master Mode, and if so what parameters are you running?

[empty portal]

I'm running pretty much the pre sync parameters. Should I try post sybc ones again?

my team is delphox, swanna and golisopod

[mellow linden]

1st off, that team has little to no synergy, try Hop instead of Serena at least.

2nd off, how the heck is Lucian Syncing twice on pre-Sync parameters?

Or do you mean your Sync when you refer to 2nd Sync?

[empty portal]

nope their sync

[mellow linden]

1. I’m quite frankly surprised anyone on your team survived a Sync on pre-Sync parameters, and 2) are you triple queueing?

[empty portal]

Yes I am.

[mellow linden]

Do you have reduced sync countdown parameters turned on?

[empty portal]

yes I do

[mellow linden]

That’s at least part of your problem

You shouldn’t have those on

And tbh because you’re using those I have a feeling you’re using some very weird parameters. Try the ones in the pins

And maybe try Noland or Lusamine + Bugsy + Hop, 3/5+ Hilbert, 3/5+ Sonia, or 2/5+ Aaron for the team

Idk if you have Lusamine or not, but Lunge is solid damage output

[empty portal]

I do, I'll try that suggestion. Thanks

[lost gulch]

whats next week weakness ?

[old orchid]

check the pins

[ripe onyx]

hello!

so im trying to defeat hard mode bertha with n/volkner as suggested yesterday

and im having a very hard time staying alive atm - are there any reccomended tanks?

i was unsure so i just threw in sycamore, but i know hes probably sub optimal

[toxic cobalt]

Cyrus and Winona is better. You need to get rid of sandstorm.

Cyrus Winona Roxanne will romp it

[ripe onyx]

oh right i was using SSB cyrus, winona against her and sycamore/n/volkner against lucian - forgot i had changed it earlier

ill give roxanne a try thank you!