Champion Stadium

[obtuse hound]

i have the full 1/5 grid

[mellow linden]

Alright, just making sure

[obtuse hound]

and ssmorty isnt refreshing

is that even one of his tiles?

[mellow linden]

It do be like that sometimes

It’s available at 1/5, yeah

[obtuse hound]

like he hasn't refreshed at all

[steel kelp]

Is unova easier than the other regions or is it something else?

[mellow linden]

I’ve gone 10 attempts straight without getting an MP Refresh on a 2 MP move before, sometimes you just get unlucky

[subtle forge]

It is easier than Sinnoh and Hoenn

[steel kelp]

Ah ok that’s probably what it is then

[obtuse hound]

huey im only struggling cause im doing 10k lol

[mellow linden]

Unova is one of the earlier CS regions, so it’s a bit easier than Hoenn and Sinnoh (and Alola to an extent)

[steel kelp]

I was able to get 10k pretty easily this week and last week

While I was barely getting 4.5k on hoenn

[obtuse hound]

my teams are a bit luck based

so its a hit or miss whether i win or not

also

i WAS gonna wuadqueue

but they queued a move

:/

and i have two moves after sync

and they legit just moved

so maybe you can't do it on iris?

[mellow linden]

You should be able to. Did a field effect wear off?

[obtuse hound]

like i was ready and prepared button mashing outrage cause i have enough gauge

nope

sun is there

[mellow linden]

Light Screen?

[obtuse hound]

yup

[keen jasper]

It might be risky, but I recommended setting up Light Screen to not ruin the queueing and use Zinnia's TM as a free move

[obtuse hound]

they're about to run out but i just checked they're still there, next moves will refresh them

[mellow linden]

Alright, just making sure. Sometimes quadqueue is hard to pull off, but as long as you don’t have field effects or passives screwing things up it should be possible

[obtuse hound]

setting up when cause i am setting it up

and refreshing it

[obtuse hound]

no like

her sync hasnt even STARTED

i added ssmorty's move and then iris queued

and then the sync began

[mellow linden]

Lemme think for a moment

[obtuse hound]

like that's not a skill issue that's a gameplay issue lol

[mellow linden]

That sounds like a passive of some sort went off or something

[keen jasper]

Ok Abbie, I'll try to simulate your gameplay

[obtuse hound]

this game is more complicated than i thought

[keen jasper]

Show me your grids

[mellow linden]

Let me try to eliminate some variables. You’re queueing Sync + Lyra and SS Morty’s moves while Iris’ side is doing their animation, right?

[obtuse hound]

oh im in the middle of a battle

[obtuse hound]

yes, i think so.

but i could be wrong

im just trying to focus

[mellow linden]

Just finish that fight for now, yeah

[obtuse hound]

also ssmorty just died before he could refresh sun

that's another issue

[keen jasper]

Show me your grids, I'll see if your team is possible

[obtuse hound]

ssmorty often dies before he can refresh sun

yeah one sec

lets see if i win by some miracle

[keen jasper]

Though my SS Morty is level 140 and EX-ed

And so is my Lyra

But I'll try to simulate it as close as possible

[obtuse hound]

nope

[mellow linden]

SS Morty should requeue Sunny Day for right after Zinnia Syncs. Should still have enough gauge for Outrage after Sync (and if not just Trainer Move instead)

[obtuse hound]

and i nearly won the first time

i remember what happened was

i delayed sun to last possible second

and as it went away ssmorty move refreshed it

he died

lyra set up light screen

and they were nearly dead and i was about to sync

[keen jasper]

Morty has damage guard when he syncs

[obtuse hound]

but zinnia was before lyra in action order by some mistakr

[tacit matrix]

what's your parameters

[mellow linden]

So once you’ve completed your 3rd round of actions you should queue Zinnia Sync -> Lyra move -> Sunny Day (SS Morty and Lyra’s moves are interchangeable on the order)

[obtuse hound]

so she took the outrage instead of lyra

[tacit matrix]

I'm picking half hp parameters and morty is not even close to be death

[obtuse hound]

like i was going to sync and it was going to kill because | was their hp

[keen jasper]

Hey Abbie, why aren't you showing me your grids?

[obtuse hound]

[mellow linden]

Probably distracted, our bad

[obtuse hound]

you have to give me a second

[keen jasper]

Ok

[mellow linden]

While you do that I’ll type up a possible action order

[keen jasper]

But my Zinnia isn't EX-ed, so it might be a little different

[obtuse hound]

im also trying to explain how i nearly won the first time so you guys can examine it and see what went wrong

[keen jasper]

Did you video?

[obtuse hound]

well what i can do again, actually

unfortunately no, that was my first try

[keen jasper]

Maybe do a video of your gameplay so that we can see

[obtuse hound]

what went wrong was zinnia before lyra in tactics

[keen jasper]

It doesn't matter, still show it to us

[mellow linden]

It sounds like the 1st attempt went wrong because of accidentally putting Zinnia as 2nd target based on what was said

[obtuse hound]

i wanna simulate what i did again

[obtuse hound]

no im saying its unvideoed

[obtuse hound]

yeah i just want to replicate what i did now that that is fixed..

anyway, grids

[mellow linden]

Anyways, next message will be possible action order to use

[obtuse hound]

zinnia, lyra, ssmorty

sigh

its cutoff but zinnia has the weather sync boost

wow a complete action order

i just

i don't think i need that

im kind of skilled at this point, been playing for bout a month

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

I’ve got it stored in clipboard if you want it later

[obtuse hound]

thank you

hmm

ill take a video

instead

[keen jasper]

How come Zinnia's first sync almost took down Iris in my simulation?

[obtuse hound]

like how far?

[mellow linden]

Was Zinnia 1st Sync?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[obtuse hound]

and do you have any exs?

[mellow linden]

Alright

[keen jasper]

Yeah, SS Morty and Lyra, but my literal 1st sync was Zinnia

[obtuse hound]

like what was the exact team, move level, etc.

[keen jasper]

And my Zinnia isn't EX-ed

[obtuse hound]

idk about ssmorty and lyra ex but their grids and passives may have had something to do with it

what was zinnia's lucky skill?

[keen jasper]

I simulated 1/5 grids for SS Morty and Lyra

[keen jasper]

Dauntless

[sick inlet]

Lyra needs Sun before you use her TM

[keen jasper]

Oh, I realized I used Draco Meteor instead of Outrage

[obtuse hound]

yeaaaa

i don't have dauntless

[keen jasper]

But it would still be the same result either way

[north crown]

I would just replace Lyra with someone else if she’s 1/5, especially if you have a better crit buffing option

Unless Lybi

[obtuse hound]

i mean? doesn't draco meteor do more damage?

[keen jasper]

It does, but it also lowers your Sp. Atk. by 2

[mellow linden]

A question: when queueing Zinnia’s Sync, is that the first action of the set, or are you queueing SS Morty and Lyra’s moves before queueing the Sync?

[mellow linden]

This is probably more of a last resort since no Dauntless on Zinnia, but it is an option

[keen jasper]

Here's what I did:
Turn 1: 1st Zinnia (TM), 2nd Lyra (Dire Hit All), 3rd SS Morty (Sunny Day)
Turn 2: 1st and/or 2nd Lyra or SS Morty (TM), 3rd Zinnia (Draco Meteor or Outrage)
Turn 3: 1st and/or 2nd Lyra (Light Screen)/SS Morty (TM), 3rd Zinnia (Draco Meteor or Outrage)
Sync with Zinnia

SS Morty's Sunny Day is the last action of the 1st turn so that the effect will last until the 1st sync

[obtuse hound]

same with me

im going to take a video

waaaait...

[mellow linden]

Wait, what round effect did you use?

[obtuse hound]

what param?

[keen jasper]

Round 1

[mellow linden]

Alright

[obtuse hound]

which is?

[mellow linden]

Sync buffs increased potency

[keen jasper]

I'm trying to simulate Abbie's team

[mellow linden]

Same one you’re using, iirc

[keen jasper]

1/5 SS Morty and Lyra

Even with grids at 1/5

[obtuse hound]

are there any ex only things ssmorty and lyra could be adding?

[mellow linden]

Though that does beg the question…could choosing increased special damage be more effective, or is it not going to work because of Outrage being used over Draco Meteor?

[mellow linden]

Maybe slightly higher bulk/speed, but nothing to affect Zinnia’s damage if she’s the only one Syncing

[obtuse hound]

often too ssmorty likes to die before anything but ill take a video and we can see

[north crown]

Wouldn’t Iris work better

Or any other dragon DPS?

[mellow linden]

Dunno what the other available dragons are rn (Cyrus was used for Shauntal)

So we’re working out what’s going on with Zinnia

[keen jasper]

I almost defeated Iris if it weren't for me messing up the quad queueing

With the same team as Abbie's

[mellow linden]

I think quadqueue is the key here, but we’ll see

[obtuse hound]

basically the story ones..

and most legendary adventures

yeah the story ones + lisia

so

[mellow linden]

Hmm…

Backup plan of Iris/Hop/Sycamore maybe?

[north crown]

Lisia could be good at high move level

[mellow linden]

True, she has a decent nuke

[north crown]

Otherwise I would consider dual striking with Outrage

Or if you got a sp def debuffer replace Lyra with that

Or any offtype options

Or you could try poison stalling

Or sleep stalling

[mellow linden]

Stall is an option, that’s true

[mellow linden]

Iris shouldn’t be too bad on that front

[obtuse hound]

this is how much zinnia sync did

[north crown]

Ditch Zinnia

[mellow linden]

At this point trying off-type with SS May + SS Morty + SS Red is looking like a better deal

[north crown]

Not even

[obtuse hound]

i just have no idea

how cight did that much

it must be the ex ssmorty and ex lyra somehow

[north crown]

SSRed, Hop, sun setter is enough for SSRed to offtype

[obtuse hound]

i did their exact action order

[north crown]

If you have a spare Lillie lying around use her instead

[mellow linden]

I think there’s probably some other weirdness going on, because it’s definitely not having EXs that don’t make use of the EX effect

Is SS Red 2/5?

[north crown]

Oh no

[keen jasper]

Damn it, I can do it if quad queueing existed

[obtuse hound]

see its pretty much impossible with iris

here i have the video

let me compress it then i can post it

it only goes up to her sync

[mellow linden]

Wait, what level is everyone on that team?

[keen jasper]

Goddamn got critted twice in a row

[north crown]

SSMorty, 3/5 SSRed, Hop/ 1/5 Lillie is enough

[mellow linden]

I don’t think their SS Red is 3/5 though

[north crown]

SSMay?

[obtuse hound]

nope

[north crown]

Anything else

[mellow linden]

Iirc they have her, yeah

[obtuse hound]

ssmay ssmorty ssred all 1/5

[north crown]

Bruh

What other offtypes

[mellow linden]

That’s why I said SS Morty + SS May + SS Red off-type might work

[obtuse hound]

they can't do it 1/5?

??

that can't be right

i won the other four battles most pairs being 1/5

including ssbrendan

[mellow linden]

I think they’re just trying to see what other options you have in case someone better exists

[north crown]

Almost no synergy

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

Wait, what about Silver?

Sacred Fire build Silver + SS May + SS Morty?

[obtuse hound]

almost all of my really good pairs are 1/5 cause i pulled them from banners and didnt want to pull again just for move level because even though i whale im not a huge one.

and im also very new

i have like 19x of each move candy token

from a month of playing

[north crown]

Oh that might work if they have silver power boost

[obtuse hound]

nope

[mellow linden]

Hmm

[north crown]

Bruh

[mellow linden]

Do you have Hilda, and if so what move level?

And barring that, do you have Gladion perchance?

[obtuse hound]

one sec sorry

[mellow linden]

It’s cool

I’m just trying to rattle off as many decent Fire options I can think of and hoping something comes up

[north crown]

We just learned towards fire cuz n that is where they have the most offtype pairs

iirc this is for the champion

[mellow linden]

Yep

[keen jasper]

I did @obtuse hound with your team

IF ONLY I WASN'T FUCKING CRITTED!!!!!!!

ON FUCKING ZINNIA!!!!!!

[mellow linden]

Other off-types might work, but since 2/3 of a great Fire off-type exist I’m trying to zero in on that

Wait

This is probably gonna sound stupid, but what if SS Morty + SS May + Zinnia?

[north crown]

Mayhaps

[mellow linden]

Sync with SS May, spam Outrage with Zinnia

And since Zinnia won’t be Syncing you can go all-in on Outrage

[north crown]

And both DPS units are self sufficient

(With each other AKA SSMay)

[obtuse hound]

yes hilda is 1/5

[north crown]

Yeah ditch everyone else and go for this

[mellow linden]

Alright, so no Hilda. But I’m liking this SS Morty + SS May + Zinnia idea

[north crown]

Yeah me too

[obtuse hound]

yeah its jyst

[mellow linden]

Just make sure to turn off stat drop immunity in parameters

[obtuse hound]

pairs are still functional at 1/5 lol

[mellow linden]

Yeah, SS Morty and SS May totally are

[north crown]

I even have a straightforward move order if you want me to type that

Should be relatively easy

[mellow linden]

Should be fairly similar to what you did with Lyra on the team, just that Zinnia uses Trainer Move twice, SS May uses Trainer Move once, and you can’t quadqueue so you gotta deal with only having 1 Sync before Iris Syncs

[north crown]

Wait you can’t quad?

[mellow linden]

Can’t do it without Light Screen setter on Iris this week

Her round effect sets it at the start

Unless…

[north crown]

Save SSMay’s TM for later

Well would you really want to do that..?

[mellow linden]

SS May has Propulsion and her Trainer Move lowers Sync Countdown

So 2 methods to still get a 2nd Sync in

Wait, nevermind

[keen jasper]

Ugh, my win was ruined by a fucking critical hit

[mellow linden]

SS May takes a full turn off Sync

1 from Trainer Move and Head Start 2

[north crown]

Yeah that’s what I thought

[keen jasper]

@obtuse hound Your team of SS Morty, Zinnia and OG Lyra can still work

[north crown]

Though I didn’t remember if she could pull off a Lear

SSMorty: Sunny day to TM
SSMay: Crit, TM
Zinnia: TM TM

[mellow linden]

Might wanna do SS May’s Dire Hit+ on her 2nd turn for more reliable Sync crit

[north crown]

Yeah

Full buffs before first Sync

Then just defense destroy

[mellow linden]

Well I know who I’m picking if she shows up on a 3k gem selector later

[keen jasper]

I'm so tempted to use Draco Meteor instead of Outrage

But Abbie doesn't have Dauntless on Zinnia

@obtuse hound Would it be fine if I used Draco Meteor instead of Outrage?

Also I wish you can EX your SS Morty to make it so much easier

[frigid iron]

Meteor zinnia is more dps than outrage, yeah

[keen jasper]

But Abbie doesn't have Dauntless

[frigid iron]

But dauntless doesnt let her do max damage on dragon ascent

[keen jasper]

On her Zinnia

I'm trying to simulate Abbie's Zinnia team

[frigid iron]

Ah i see

[keen jasper]

I was so close until the damn crit killed my Zinnia

[frigid iron]

Cant they poison stall or sleep stall it?

[mellow linden]

We’re currently waiting to see if they try SS Morty + SS May + Zinnia and how it goes if they do

[frigid iron]

Ah i see

They are doing 2k i assume?

[mellow linden]

Yep

[frigid iron]

Oh hm maybe they should try bulky parameters instead of offensive ones if survability is the problem

[keen jasper]

This would be easier if I had EX Zinnia

Why did I make such a rookie mistake

I wanna cheat a little

[tame wind]

I made the same mistake and still feel pangs of regret. Good thing Ash/SSRP/SSCL were right around the corner LOL

[keen jasper]

At least I have SS Serena, but yeah, a free unit's power wasted really still haunts me 'til this day

In fact, I even EX-ed my Silver because of that

[tame wind]

One day I'll EX her with regular powerups - but rn there's just so many better options to EX showing up that it will probably take a while.

[tacit matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrSaO7rh2GE&ab_channel=Saisis

I honestly have no idea how your Morty can die, mine never was close to die and still had a second potion. I assume you are using different parameters, I hope this video will help you

[gaunt sentinel]

wow Iris had no chance against ash lol

8,350 points not too bad

[hidden ore]

Is there a vid for Grimsley post sync?

Or sth like that?

[simple storm]

why vid

not many people do post sync

[hidden ore]

I run into these 😦

Always Icy Wind

[simple storm]

how

aaron ss morty and emmet

[hidden ore]

Emmet non ex’ed

Used those

[simple storm]

try presync?

[tacit matrix]

Is there a EX Supp?

[hidden ore]

Yes, Aaron

[frosty axle]

A lot of people do post sync like me it's more consistent

[tacit matrix]

Start attacking left side to turn denial him after EX Supp First Sync

Keep Emmett TM for his Sync to oneshot center

And then finish off right side

I can't really replicate anymore since my Emmett is EX now but I was used to clear Sinnoh bug weak without EX using Tech Parasect and a EX Supp, if you follow that strategy you shouldn't have many problems

[white gale]

I'm trying to put together a good team against dark-weak. SS Cyrus can set zone. For DPS, I can use 2/5 TMR, 2/5 Nessa or 2/5 Houndoom. Can't think of a good Support for this kind of team that also helps against enemies that are 100% Sp Att (ie, next weeks' Caitlyn). Any suggestions?

[dark osprey]

Could try using MR, Cyrus and a support (preferably EX) or Nessa Cyrus and a support (preferably EX)

Both would do

[white gale]

yeah those are my thoughts too. Just trying to figure out a good Support

[dark osprey]

Or could even go without Cyrus and MR and Nessa

[white gale]

I guess that one that increases Att/Crit, but can't find any that ALSO increases SpDef

[dark osprey]

I somehow have OCD on using Piers for dark stages. Not necessarily the best

Crit is the main to be looked into

The rest don't really matter that much. +4 attacks is more than enough

[white gale]

oh ok. that's good to know

[dark osprey]

The thing with Piers is that he's unkillable pre sync

Unless weather or poison/ burn

[white gale]

I guess Surgechu, Exeguter would probably work

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Surgechu and Lodge blue are quite nice

Lots of supports will fit in decently well there

If you specifically want special defense buffs you may have to get premium supports

Lodge Cynthia may not be accessible but she's someone who gives crit and special defense buffs

Lyra can be useful too

[white gale]

darn, don't have Cynthia 😦

[dark osprey]

I mean there's also budget Drake with team sharp entry which is enough actually

[white gale]

just an increase of 1 is enough?

[dark osprey]

I guess for Cyrus it's not fast enough but would be for Nessa

[white gale]

ideally, I want someone increases/near-maxes Att, Crit and SpDef. don't think that someone exists

ah Nessa

[dark osprey]

Special defense plus crit supports are usually the premium ones

Like ss Kris, ss Brendan etc.

[white gale]

but they don't increase Att, only SpAtt

[dark osprey]

ss dawn etc.

[white gale]

who's better 2/5 Nessa or 2/5 TMR?

[dark osprey]

Yeah. No need of maxing out

Nessa better dps, masked royal nuke

Until getting zone, both of them would go great together

With zone either would do

Also with ss Cyrus you could just sleep them most of the time

I think MR would be slightly better because of the speed as well

And his dps on type is enough for the sides especially with ss Cyrus putting them to sleep

So you just need any crit buffer since you won't be hit that much

[white gale]

cool, will give that a shot. thanks!

[obtuse hound]

@mellow linden i tried your idea

nice but sides kill

3 times tried sides still kill

help?

[mellow linden]

Did SS May need to Sync a 2nd time to KO Iris or would you be fine if she didn’t?

[obtuse hound]

yeah i ko iris everytime

but bulldoze/earthquake does 3/4 hp

of my team

from sides

[mellow linden]

Because you could try Zinnia 2nd Sync to soften up the sides a little

[obtuse hound]

hmm maybe

[mellow linden]

And if Mega Rayquaza has higher Attack (dunno if it does) then it would boost Outrage damage as well

Could even do Draco Meteor once or twice after 2nd Sync since you’re likely not getting to a 3rd Sync

[obtuse hound]

nah doesnt work

sides still killed

what if i synced with zinnia both times?

also dont think she's mega

[mellow linden]

I doubt it, SS May kinda wants to Sync

Is there enough breathing room that you could smack 1 of the sides a couple times before KOing Iris?

[obtuse hound]

there's like

0 breathing room

i barely kill iris

i kill her on the "uh oh!" right before her sync where i deny it

[mellow linden]

What parameters are you using for this?

[obtuse hound]

and if i sync with zinnia the second time?

it doesnt ko her

[obtuse hound]

post sync

i tried pre sync and it was worse

[mellow linden]

Ah

Is Skyla still available?

I hate to say it, but it really seems like you’re just gonna have to Poison stall at this point

[obtuse hound]

yeah

oh damn

[mellow linden]

At least if you want to 2k

[obtuse hound]

yes of course

i have ss leaf and janine

skyla would be a good last one

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that should work pretty well

Might be a bit RNG as stall clears tend to be so in my experience

[obtuse hound]

so what round parameters should i use this time?

for stall?

[mellow linden]

Reflect at the start, it’ll buy you more time to set up Defense before you’ll have to heal

[obtuse hound]

set up defense?

none of them set up defense

on my team

this is as far as i got

[mellow linden]

Skyla’s Trainer Move buffs Defense

[obtuse hound]

oh right

[mellow linden]

Ran out of Potions, I’m guessing?

[obtuse hound]

nah

skyla died pretty much full hp to an outrage

which for some reason grows in power

as the battle goes on

[mellow linden]

Did you leave PoH on by mistake?

[obtuse hound]

and i literally was about to potion her

[mellow linden]

Because I know I did that once

[obtuse hound]

im doing status stall params

2k

in pins

[mellow linden]

Yeah, but sometimes you accidentally leave a parameter from another set on. I did that once, so I figured I’d check

The other explanation would be Sync buffs since that’s a 50% damage increase per buff

Did SS Leaf Sync, btw?

[obtuse hound]

yes

[mellow linden]

Alright.

I don’t know how they compare, but BP Erika or Lucy might be slightly faster than SS Leaf for an individual target, so replacing SS Leaf with one of them could take Iris down a little faster.

But I’m not certain on that

Oh, right, I should also say that if you can grab Skyla’s Trainer Move MP Refresh you could definitely try to fish for that at the start of a fight, especially since you’re RNG resetting for 1st turn Razor Leaf poison anyways

[plucky pewter]

I wish I had enough trust in myself to attempt 10k 😂

[zealous karma]

If you need help and post your 5 stars only from the upgrades -> move potential menu

[plucky pewter]

I managed to get 4200 done this week (first time), it's more I just don't have a lot of grids done and a lack of knowledge on my part, but here are my initial 5 star units

[zealous karma]

You can very much do 10k!!

Brb

[toxic cobalt]

Should be able to 10k

[plucky pewter]

Yeah its as I said, more a matter of not trusting myself to be able to do it 😂

These are the teams I used to beat 4200 and I had struggles with 2 of them I think it was.

[zealous karma]

Water: Cyrus, May Sabrina
Electric: Ash and SstRed SSB
Psychic: Gio Roxanne bianca
Bug: hilbert SSRed Blaine
Dragon: Zinnia Acerola Phoebe

Oh I did not see alder

[plucky pewter]

So would Alder just stay in on bug over Ssred?

[zealous karma]

Yes

[plucky pewter]

Alright.
Out of curiosity, what is Blaines use for that team?

[subtle forge]

Sun

So red can do more damage

[toxic cobalt]

Alder Skyla crit buffer

Just to save Alder some time

[plucky pewter]

Ahh right, I was looking at Blaine as still with Alder 😅 my bad

Could I do Kiawe, Alder, Skyla? Kiawe having atk/sp atk/crit buff and potions?

[toxic cobalt]

Why? He raises it one at a time and needs an mpr.

I mean honestly you could do it with anyone given Alder's self-sufficiency but there should be a better reason

[plucky pewter]

Mpr? Sorry still learning all the terms

[toxic cobalt]

move point refresh

[plucky pewter]

I could adjust my grid slightly to get that node

[toxic cobalt]

If you want. Anyone with dire hit + would be better though.

But just pick someone and run it, should be fine

[plucky pewter]

Wait no I have the node

I was looking at focus group 2 node which I don't have

Alright I'll check for a dire hit +

Wait it has to be dire hit all which still only does 1 at a time?

[toxic cobalt]

It's fine just use Kiawe, he is an EX after all

IDeally you want someone like BP Surge or Giovanni who does 2 at a time.

[plucky pewter]

I'll use piers/obatagoon they have dire hit all +

If that fails I'll go to kiawe

I appreciate the help. I'll spend today/tomorrow getting some more of the units on the teams to 120 then I'll give 10k a go.
Any, particular paramater I should go for on the chart?

[toxic cobalt]

Pre-sync

Except for round 2

[plucky pewter]

Alright thanks 🙂
I don't have to do the fights in any particular order right, like there's no "optimal" order?

[keen jasper]

I wonder how this'll do for next week

[toxic cobalt]

Eh, don't do Shauntal last?

[plucky pewter]

Haha alright thanks 🙂

[zealous karma]

Why Mr and Karen?

[keen jasper]

Speed boost from MR and I wanna try out Karen's expanded grid

[simple storm]

is gio a good tank like compared to other pool supports

for 2k specifically

[zealous karma]

I’d say his bulk is comparable to Roxanne but he doesn’t have any defensive buffs so he can die if no endurance

[simple storm]

o i see

who could be like the best karen parter if im doing 2v3

[trail smelt]

Karen wants too many things for 2v3 honestly lol

[simple storm]

true

might be hard sadly

i could use power trip marnie

[trail smelt]

Oh do you have Sidney? He nukes hard and almost caps all his offensive stats and triggers his own multipliers, might be the easiest for dark weak. Just pair him with a defensive tank maybe

[simple storm]

i do have sydney

i could use him with aaron

ill make the teams rq

ill have to offtype ground tho

[keen jasper]

Why not try Naomi?

[simple storm]

Would sydney need ex?

[simple storm]

2v3

[keen jasper]

Ah ok

[simple storm]

ill just use steven

[keen jasper]

No SS Giovanni?

[simple storm]

nope

i got cyrus from select

but depending on datamine maxie might be my ground unit

[trail smelt]

Well EX never hurts a nuker haha. So far I’ve never needed to though, but admittedly I don’t 2v3

[zealous karma]

SSLyra/Cyrus… aka units who can solo already

Or Serena

[simple storm]

My cyrus 1/5

I would like to candy him

[zealous karma]

I think he’s still a good partner if you can sleep chain

[dark osprey]

Think maybe Sycamore could also 2v3 with Karen. Special attack debuffs and max sp defense buffs should help survive

Sycamore could duo otherwise too

[simple storm]

Ill try and see what works

[nova galleon]

Is this a good team for next week

[keen jasper]

You have SS Morty?

[nova galleon]

Nope

[keen jasper]

For your team on Grimsley, I'd suggest:

Support/Sun Setter/SS May or Silver

Also, your team on Caitlin is underleveled

[nova galleon]

Should I level them up

[keen jasper]

Definitely, otherwise they'd die to the parameters on master mode

[nova galleon]

For sun setter blaine

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing you don't have Silver's power boost?

[nova galleon]

Yes

[keen jasper]

You do? Oh perfect

[keen jasper]

Wait, do you have it or not?

[nova galleon]

No power boost

[keen jasper]

Do you have Elio?

[nova galleon]

I started playing game when zinnia power boost was going on😅

[nova galleon]

Which Pokemon

[keen jasper]

Popplio line

Besides, Elio only has 1 variant (for now)

[nova galleon]

No

[keen jasper]

Lyra/Chikorita?

[nova galleon]

I have it

[keen jasper]

Good, then her, Silver and Blaine

[nova galleon]

Ok

Is dark Type a good team

[keen jasper]

Yeah, just really underleveled

Make sure to not activate the No Status Condition parameter otherwise Sidney can't confuse them

[nova galleon]

Ok

For fighting is brawly ok there

[simple storm]

fighting looks ok if bea is gridded for max crit on entry

[keen jasper]

I suppose he can use Rock Smash and Potion, but could be replaced for someone better

[nova galleon]

Whom should I replace with

[keen jasper]

Probably someone to boost Bea's Atk.

[nova galleon]

Maylene

[keen jasper]

Sure

[nova galleon]

With maylene Bea crit will be maxed and attack also

For dark shall I grid them

[keen jasper]

Well definitely grid Sidney

[nova galleon]

Sydney is 1/5 and piers is 2/5

[keen jasper]

Can I see your dark types?

[dark osprey]

Also. Could use Nessa for dark dps

[swift swan]

Nessa never fails me for dark weak

except Hoenn

[nova galleon]

And grimsley/liepard

Any team suggestions for me

[full mesa]

Dunno mate. For now trial and error. You can always try poison stall.

[toxic cobalt]

Does Grimsley have inherently higher crits?

[late halo]

Looking for some people to brainstorm my champion fight with. Trying to solo with Zerena and I’m finding no success

I’ve played with a bunch of different point parameters and either she doesn’t survive Iris’ sync, or Serena doesn’t have the gauges to finish the job after her own

[full mesa]

Add a good support?

[late halo]

That makes it not a solo run

I could duo it no problem but that’s not the aim

[full mesa]

Is Zerena 3/5 ex?

[late halo]

Yes

[full mesa]

How about giving her fast track 2 instead of CS2?

1-2 points of speed might change something.

[late halo]

I hadn’t thought to try messing with Lucky Skills! Before I attempt that, what other skills might be worth considering?

[full mesa]

I guess you already use one sync move to kill the sides, so something that boost speed or damage even further. Super powered 3 might be ok.

[late halo]

Yeah the sides tend to be fine even on more defensive parameters but I have definitely gone overboard on that, gotten to sync, and finished exactly none of them

[full mesa]

Also rejuvenate, super guard and super syncer from the grid might be something to consider.

[late halo]

I messed with those a bit but thinking back on it, I may have switched back to the normal grid before changing up the parameters

Let me try something

[full mesa]

Also MGR on core enforcer.

[late halo]

Not sure I can quite reach the MGR while getting all the other important stuff

[full mesa]

Just do a combination between them. Keep in mind you also have the parameters.

Worst case scenario, she might just not cut it. Find another unit.

[late halo]

I am not super confident that I have any other units that can solo lol

I know I've seen some people pull this off, just gotta figure out how

Okay not bad on that attempt. Survived the sync, had damage guard and full gauges for the next hit. Sides died to sync, Haxorus still had about half health left. Couldn't put it away with that one move

[full mesa]

Haxorus has around 26k hp. If sync deals 10k then you need 3-4 core enforcers.

[late halo]

Yeah and I've got some HP params on so it's even worse lol

Do defensive params or HP params make the stage overall harder, you think?

God this Altaria is just monstrous

Why does Aerial Ace have to hit so damn hard

Oof. Closest I’ve gotten, couldn’t get the gauges in time

[sick inlet]

#1011213509071208451 message check parameters here last fight

All the fights recorded here are redoable, as this is my second clear with them

[late halo]

Looks like you didn't have any funky stuff going on in your grid either. Full offensive?

[sick inlet]

Except Shauntal

[sick inlet]

Yeah let me grab it for you

[late halo]

I never even thought about doing -sync countdown

[sick inlet]

It was my go to for both SSteven and Zerena

As both of them are squishy

Well one more than the other

But they delete stages really quick with nuke

So took advantage of that

Wait that's the wrong grid 🤡

My apologies, this is what I actually used @late halo

That SE^ after Sync is necessary I think.

[late halo]

What I'm craving most is that Sync Damage Guard but I can't seem to make it fit

From your replay, it seems like getting her to use X sp. def after sync is the key

[sick inlet]

Well I calculated that if she hits me with anything but Outrage at first, I will survive the sync

Well ofc no crits too

[late halo]

Surviving the sync, yeah

It's just that she attacks before I can after my own sync and I don't have the health for that

[sick inlet]

She can start with sp.def first and slash after sync but that might be too close for comfort

[late halo]

That exact scenario is proving to be too much

[sick inlet]

Thing is she will ALWAYS Attack up -1 Sync and Special barrier after Sync

[late halo]

Right

God she keeps opening with Outrage lol

[sick inlet]

So your rng luck is on how she starts

Yeah that sucks

[late halo]

Hmm. Even opening with a dragon claw makes my lose to the sync

[sick inlet]

My Zerena is 150 with full Dragon gear, I wonder if that makes that difference?

[late halo]

Oh shit mine isn't 150

Yeah that probably does it. It's very close each time

[sick inlet]

Full HP is 756

So with gear

Plus that regn on hit

Makes up for the damage I get from slash/dragonclaw

[late halo]

Yeah I think that's the trick

Damn. Just used up the last of my certificates

Didn't think 150 was ever going to make a difference, but lo and behold

[sick inlet]

How much is max HP 140?

[late halo]

726

[sick inlet]

It should still be possible no? Maybe you want slash 100%

[late halo]

Yeah I'm fishing for that slash now to see if it makes a difference

Iris is not cooperating

[sick inlet]

Yeah she can be a pain in the ass, first time I cleared Iris this week I actually did a Duo (mainly because I was frustrated by Shauntal)

Which leads me to ask who did you solo Shauntal with?

[late halo]

I couldn't do full solos this week because of Shauntal and Grimsley. Also because I don't think I have enough units that can do it

[sick inlet]

Ah yeah they hit too hard for stall teams (SSLeaf)

And fire spin

Smh

[late halo]

Duo'd with Gloria and egg tech Gyarados with Gyara tanking, because that's also funny

[vivid star]

I gave up and went 9.5k

u_u

[sick inlet]

Who did you compromise against?

[vivid star]

I was being dumb and forgot I used zerena and Cyrus in earlier stages

All I had left was Zinnia and she's just not that great

[sick inlet]

Zerena is more than enough, if you wanna repeat and use cyrus early :v

[late halo]

lmao Iris finally used slash. and got a crit

[sick inlet]

[vivid star]

I think I'm fine with this week. Just got Splatoon 3 so I wanted to get this week done asap lol

[sick inlet]

Ayeeee Enjoy your painting matches

[vivid star]

Thanks :)

[late halo]

Alright I'm out of patience for the time being. Might need to revisit this next week once I've got some certificates built up again

Not next week. Later in this week

Regardless thank you very much for your insight Jo, I think this will work with the right levels and the right opening moves

[late halo]

Yoooooo it finally worked!

Adjusted the grid, dropped some offensive nodes to grab sync damage guard, still had enough power to KO with 1 Core Enforcer after sync

[lunar meadow]

Congrats

[mint cedar]

3/5 ash can solo Elaine 2k if that matters to anyone

[frosty axle]

Elaine? or is that Caitlin?

[sick inlet]

I believe Caitlin is what they meant

[keen jasper]

Caitlin in another language (Spanish I think?)

[frosty axle]

ye must be

Spanish is Catleya

don't see Elaine though

[mystic pier]

I'm gonna use Cyrus against Iris

But idk what else to use.

[grand steppe]

What support do you have left

[mystic pier]

I've used Primirina and Suicune so those are outta the question

[upbeat gate]

Sycamore is a really good option for any unit that needs special attack boosts, as well as being one of the best tanks in the game

[mystic pier]

Noted

Any ideas for a 3rd with Cyrus and Sycamore?

[upbeat gate]

if you don't have the sync orbs to grid cyrus for critical focus, then anything that gives crit is a good choice imo, like sabrina

[grand steppe]

Cyrus can buff himself, you can use Kiawe and ssBlue to power thru it.

It’s normal right? (Not master mode)

[mystic pier]

Just Normal

[grand steppe]

Yeah, kiawe can potion Cyrus, and ssblue can tank.

Make kiawe and ss blue level 100 and you should be fine. I don’t see them dieing easily

[mystic pier]

Interesting
Thank you
I'll try it out

[keen silo]

Phoebe is also not bad in that scenario

[grand steppe]

Oh I forgot. Cyrus’s Gridded Hydro Pump does more in rain off-type than On-type Spacial Rend. If you have Winona or May you can run Cyrus in rain for more damage.

[full mesa]

Under rain, non expand Cyrus can easily reach 12k per hit with max att/crit.

And 2 sync buffs.

[reef garnet]

hey all, i'm struggling with grimsley on 2k. i'm on round 4, and my only real bug type attacker is guzma :( i'm currently trying post-sync params and not getting any meaningful damage off before his first sync and nearly dying to it. here are my 5 * pairs

[upbeat gate]

wait really, that's really funny

[full mesa]

What's your champion team?

[reef garnet]

I was thinking zinnia + weather setter + sycamore/brendan

[full mesa]

Sycamore/Cyrus/Rain setter for R4.
ZinniaMRayEx/Setter/Roxanne-eevee-rosaex for champion?

Or even ZinniaMRayEx/Hop/Weather setter.

You can also do ZinniaMRayEx/Setter/Brendan.

[reef garnet]

i’ll try those out - thanks! would i go for post or pre-sync r4?

[full mesa]

Try your luck with both choices.

Personally I use different parameters from the pins.

[mystic pier]

Took 3 attempts, but I beat a Champion for the first time, woo

[full mesa]

GJ mate. Now onto MM.

[mystic pier]

Well, can't do that till I have all 18 types, only have 7, so I gotta wait till reset.

[keen silo]

Nice! Appreciated if you post your clears in #1010274591601598555 instead:p

[magic crown]

I'm using this team from dark week next week should I change it or is it good

[subtle forge]

Yeah looks good

Although Falkner isn’t the most stellar tank and i think Caitlin got hyper beam so watch out for that

[magic crown]

Sweet

[manic mica]

yeah id replace him with someone who tanks better and can either +3 karens spattk or even easier +1 her crit so she is fully setup by sync

[keen silo]

Just gotta pray your fly dodges the right moves

[latent agate]

My 10k comps this week

[toxic cobalt]

Please post on #1010274591601598555 not here

[quartz valley]

Im new to the game I only have like 3 140 lvl sync pairs what do I do to the beat the unova challenge hard lvl 1

[simple storm]

how leveled are your other units

[quartz valley]

I have like 30 level 100 5 stars and maybe like 2 level 110 other ones

[simple storm]

+101

[frozen depot]

Teambuilding 101:

Step 1: pick a damage dealer ( / or with high damage)

• take a look at their moveset; note what they buff themselves in terms of offensive stats (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer)

Step 2: picking appropriate for your damage dealer

• take a look at your through the filter option and the Known Moves tab and pick two teammates that fill in what your damage dealer is missing (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer )

Addendum: if your damage dealer's needs can be filled in with only one support, then your third team slot is more flexible and you can choose defensive (potions, buffing defenses, lowering attack) or a second damage dealer

[simple storm]

read this and tell me what u understood from it

[quartz valley]

@simple storm do I have enough to beat the unova challenge in your opinion ?

[keen jasper]

Hard mode or master mode?

[quartz valley]

Hard mode

[simple storm]

yeah

[keen jasper]

Ok then, then you need to build teams composing of different types to unlock master mode

[simple storm]

if u know how to play ofc

[toxic cobalt]

Also stop levelling units to 140, waste of materials

[keen jasper]

Only level up those you really need

[quartz valley]

Can you please tell me what sync pairs to use I don't know how to play sorry for wasting your time

[keen jasper]

Are those the teams for the one who's asking?

[toxic cobalt]

Those are team's anyone can use at hard mode

Although in particular this week, Team 1 and Team 2 will be very good.

They have C!Iris as well, and can offtype with SC Hilda EX

[quartz valley]

So do I need to get them to 6 star to or is that not required

[toxic cobalt]

No. Just use them as is.

[quartz valley]

Even if not level 130 there all level about 100 I can make them 110

@toxic cobalt

[toxic cobalt]

That's fine

110/120 will work

The real limiter is

not level

[quartz valley]

Tysm for your help

[toxic cobalt]

+legexchange

[frozen depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949078726228987954/966401394825371720/unknown.png

[toxic cobalt]

You should do this for all the free legends

[quartz valley]

Do I need to get the 3 star sync pairs to 4-5 star

For the unova

@toxic cobalt

[toxic cobalt]

No you don't, although if you can it's not a bad idea

Anyway from the teams i posted your team 1 and 2 will do well

but you may want to build a SC Hilda team for the bug weak, and a C!Iris team for dragon weak.

For electric you might be able to get away with basic pikachu and sycamore

[eternal cobalt]

this week honestly felt like one of the easiest type combos

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah, except for bug it's really nice

[eternal cobalt]

i used alder for bug and he was plenty

others were all a joke though

[quartz valley]

What teams do I use for each elite four member and champion

[quartz valley]

You never told me what team I use for each like am I suppose to use team 5 for grimlsy I don't know

@toxic cobalt

[mystic pier]

What're the teams you're using?
I can maybe help

[dusty path]

@quartz valley Well I'd say it's fairly easy to tell which teams to use where: ||Team 1 (Giovanni) for Psychic weak, Team 2 (Cyrus+Winona) for Water weak, Team 5 (Pikachu) for Electric weak. Then possibly less obvious I guess: Team 3 (Viola) for bug weak and Team 4 (Ghetsis with Atk debuff) for dragon weak||

[full mesa]

Although I like dauntless on ZinniaMRayEx, ww3 is too good to pass. I can't choose...

[boreal rose]

Opinions?

Wait i think i'l change one team

Now its done

[toxic cobalt]

Should clear easily, although not sure what Grimsley is doing

Wait can Nita support that much gauge?

[boreal rose]

Idk

I just got her recently

I put Grimsley there cuz of being dark type

And i couldnt think of a 3rd sync pair

[mellow linden]

I don’t think Nita can handle gauge for both Cynthia and Maxie, she only gives +4 Speed as potential gauge support

[boreal rose]

I can change Cynthia

She is 1/5 anyway. Its not like she will do a lot

[magic crown]

Well if she is able to clear off type 2k matches she's really powerful then

[zealous karma]

PSerena is really really goo

d

I can’t imagine how she would be in fairy zone

[frigid iron]

Does anybody remember the region rotation of CS?

[zealous karma]

We expect sinnoh next month

But there’s no real rotation

[frigid iron]

Ah I see

Ok thanks

Teams

[full mesa]

Let's hope not. I'm fine with everything else.

[trail cypress]

diantha ex looks so pretty holy

[frosty axle]

After Unova is usually Kanto so don't worry

[trail cypress]

the regular one btw, idek what keldeo looks like

[frosty axle]

Its a pony

[keen jasper]

It's a unicorn with a long-ass horn

[zealous karma]

That is Keldeo Ex in the image it goes from white to blue it’s not not iceable at first but it’s way better blue

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah it is

[swift swan]

I thought it's Kanto first?

So far the rotation has been Kanto, Sinnoh, Johto, Alola, Hoenn, Unova

[magic crown]

Any suggestions for my teams next week

[toxic cobalt]

Don’t know much about Bede but the other teams are OP

[sick inlet]

Bede is the weakest team technically

[plucky pewter]

if i'm not having success with pre-sync 2k, is status stall or post-sync the "better" next option?

[tribal agate]

status stall is only mainly used for poison

so go for post sync if you feel confident you can survive the sync

pre-sync involves doing 2 of your syncs before the enemy does one

at which point the middle enemy is usually overkilled

bear in mind however that key rewards for CS MM stop at 4200 points so if you're not experienced with MM enough we recommend doing the 850 points setup

[plucky pewter]

ahhh righto then, had been wondering how the pre-sync worked out

i have completed 4200 for this week, am trying for 10k now

[full mesa]

Stall is your last line of defence when everything else has fail.

[full mesa]

Don't. Try for 7.5k first. 7.5k is the real challenge where you actually have to build teams and take into consideration both the filed effects and the parameters. After that 2k is either achievable with the same team and parameters or you need to tweak a few things.

[somber escarp]

Depends on what character you have. Most of the op unit released recently could effortlessly beat csmm at 2k both on type and off type

[plucky pewter]

Ohh alright, i hadn't been told that and was just told i should be able to beat 10k, had some teams suggested and so been trying them

[full mesa]

That's ok too but I believe that it's better to slowly ascent the ladder. You'll have more chances to test yourself and learn about the mechanics.

[plucky pewter]

Oh no i totally understand that view and actually agree with going 7.5 then 10k

do you mind if i show the teams i was suggested and then my base 5* units for some tips on changes?

[toxic cobalt]

I disapprove of this attitude. Stalling is a really simple and really reliable tactic that can save huge time.

[somber escarp]

Nah stalling was my biggest waste of time when I was a new player

Stalling is definitely last option

[toxic cobalt]

There are much more last options than stalling

There are some, really janky tactics

[somber escarp]

Last option out of the better tactics

[plucky pewter]

These are what I was suggested for 10k.
Heres rest of my base 5* units

[somber escarp]

Wait wtf is this team suggestions

You got so much good and build unit that can easily get you 10k without even trying

This is like a csmm too easy I want a challenge teams

[plucky pewter]

._.

Man im out here having only last week got my first region mvp medal and this week got first 4.2k completion xD

[toxic cobalt]

Team 3 should work, Team 4 and Team 5 are fine but I'd switch Sabrina and Roxanne. Team 6 is just overkill. Team 7 is eh replace Phoebe with Hop.

[somber escarp]

For one just use your ex supports

And both pichaku can beat any stage 2k with any tank + a pichaku

[plucky pewter]

yeah i know the ash/red combo is overkill, just thought from the suggestions id been given that i wouldnt need to separate them

[toxic cobalt]

Wait you have Lucas.

Okay yeah, no need to separate them

[toxic cobalt]

Okay, so with these suggestions in mind, what teams are you having trouble wiht?

[somber escarp]

He also has some good ex support that he not using

[plucky pewter]

yeah hes not gridded atm tho

[toxic cobalt]

Man, Smorty EX. Yeah that can handle the champ.

[toxic cobalt]

Who cares, he sets zone

Kiawe EX, Cynthiaura EX

Any others?

[plucky pewter]

I'd tried shauntal/marshal and was struggling a bith with both

my EX atm are Red/charizard, Kiawe, SS Morty and SSA Cynthia

[toxic cobalt]

Okay, well first question, are Cyrus and Giovanni gridded?

[plucky pewter]

so just the 4

Cyrus is gridded for crit focu (Without expanded grid)
Giovanni is gridded for psychic without nuke

[somber escarp]

You should put a ex support 347

[toxic cobalt]

How gridded are we talking? All 60 energy used up?

[plucky pewter]

gio is the same, maxed out for the grid chosen

[somber escarp]

Cynthia for team 3, Kia we team 4, ss Morty team 7

[toxic cobalt]

Okay, that's a decent Cyrus grid

Although you don't actually have to sync with him with this comp

Focusing on Cyrus, how close do you get to winning?

Are you able to consistently triple queue?

[plucky pewter]

i've not even gotten close

the team dies before i even take out middle

[somber escarp]

For team 7 I would also just off type with red or something you already have build

[somber escarp]

Do you triple queue moves?

[toxic cobalt]

Degrid the sync tile, take ramming speed

It's the red tile on the bottom right

[plucky pewter]

i have tried to triple queue

[somber escarp]

Go into the battle at 1x speed

Increase speed after you queue in 3 moves

[toxic cobalt]

Is Roxanne gridded?

[plucky pewter]

do i just remove crit focus 2 and then go into ramming speed? or what should i remove?

[toxic cobalt]

The sync tile

remove the sync tile

DO NOT REMOVE CRIT FOCUS 2

[plucky pewter]

xD alright, that will still leave me 2 short on energy

[toxic cobalt]

Random blue tile then

The +2 speed one

Dump it

[plucky pewter]

ok done that

[plucky pewter]

no she is not

[somber escarp]

Um you should just use your build op units

[somber escarp]

You try to triple queue? That mean your able to use 3 moves before your opponent first?

[plucky pewter]

red, skyla, cyrus, ss erika, ss blue, summer n, kiawe, alder, ssa cynthia, ash, sycamore, giovanni... thats how i have gridded atm.. next was gonna be ss morty and sst red

[plucky pewter]

ive tried, i usually can if i select all buff moves

[somber escarp]

And you use 3 move between each of your opponent moves?

[plucky pewter]

not every time

[toxic cobalt]

Well that's an issue

But also it shouldn't matter because Cyrus is OP

[plucky pewter]

im going to go try a run now

[full mesa]

Mudkip flex.

[plucky pewter]

my may isnt gridded

[toxic cobalt]

Is that important?

She exists to fill the gauge a bit and set rain twice

[plucky pewter]

my muddy water is 3 bars to use, not 1

unless the pixels are just making me not see the other 2 bars on the move in that vid

[toxic cobalt]

No that's uh. That's a fascinating point.

Still should have plenty of speed though?

If not you can use Cyrus' tm once

[full mesa]

She has rain multipliers and innate passives that boosts both gauge accel and power. You don't need grid.

[toxic cobalt]

You can use her tm twice for her first 2 moves. Then rain third.

After that, as can be seen by the fact my Roxanne left the earth, you don't even need to triple queue.

[plucky pewter]

i'm getting absolutely bullied

[toxic cobalt]

Where does your run differ from the video?

[somber escarp]

Do this Cyrus, may and alakazam. 2k pre sync. Turn 1 Cyrus trainer, may trainer, alak crit buff. Turn 2 Cyrus trainer, may rain, ala crit buff. Turn 3 Cyrus hydro, may trainer, ala heal trainer move. Turn 4 may sync, Cyrus hydro, alak heal trainer move. Turn 5 may rain, Cyrus keep hydro, alak do anything or nothing

Also alakazam tank, may second, Cyrus third in tactics

[plucky pewter]

well asides from the muddy water difference, im having some runs where i cant even get 2nd buff with roxeanne off

[somber escarp]

If you can’t queue 3 moves each you just have to practice a bit and learn how the battle mechanics for this game work

[toxic cobalt]

Mid should go down before that happens.

[plucky pewter]

no i mean using her x defense all

[toxic cobalt]

I see. Well, reset till she does 3 moves.

[plucky pewter]

like at start i do as in vid with spacial rend/ ready for this/ study buddies

[somber escarp]

Because your roxa is completely unbuild….

[toxic cobalt]

My Roxanne was unbuilt in the video

It died fast

[plucky pewter]

i am aware of that, they asked where does my run differ from the video

[somber escarp]

His/her is lv 110

[toxic cobalt]

Ah. Wanna bump that to 120/125?

[somber escarp]

Can just use a different unit

Roxa really isn’t doing much on that team

[toxic cobalt]

Roxanne is really good for Cyrus

Buffs the two stats he needs offensively

[somber escarp]

Cyrus does so much damage it kinda doesn’t matter I feel. Just kill the enemy before they hit you especially in csmm

[plucky pewter]

i've bumped roxeanne to 125

im getting within 1 more attack on mid and it would die but i just cant kill it before then

[somber escarp]

I usually just double trainer move on Cyrus and bring a crit buffer. Unless it guanlet

[toxic cobalt]

Are you getting full triple queues before the first sync?

[plucky pewter]

yes

i did on that last run where i just barely didnt kill mid

[toxic cobalt]

Can you take a screenshot?

At the time of your first sync?

[plucky pewter]

hang on ill do another run and get a screenshot for you

this actually ended up being best run so far, ended up losing on last palossand due to burn

because i couldnt use muddy water often to chip them down also

[toxic cobalt]

Muddy water isn't meant to chip, it's just meant to tick the sync counter down

Try syncing with May

And have a hydro pump queued up immediately

[plucky pewter]

ok

probs gonna take a few tries but might work, still lost just after taking out mid

[toxic cobalt]

As right won't die in one hit, you can try hitting left first. If you can hit left twice you can deny their attack.

But if you're getting rid of mid you're basically there

[plucky pewter]

ill give it a few runs see how i go.. each run seems to be a little better

should i maybe just stop trying to finish shauntal first?

[toxic cobalt]

No

It's a simple battle, so getting the techniques here will be useful

[plucky pewter]

gonna go get a fresh coffee.. this battle is frustrating me xD

[lunar meadow]

Shauntal's gimmick is aoe burn, then setting sun after syncing

[toxic cobalt]

It would be helpful to know further what is happening to you that is different to the video

[lunar meadow]

If you can kill her before she sync, you get to ignore that.

Otherwise, you want to build a team to mitigate those threats

[plucky pewter]

well each run is slightly different, like i might be missing a crit, they might dodge a hydro pump etc

[keen jasper]

Shauntal is all special and the sides are all physical

[plucky pewter]

so its like minimal things like that

[toxic cobalt]

Well if you miss the early crit just reset

[plucky pewter]

missing that extra chip damage from muddy water is definitely effecting the run imo

[toxic cobalt]

My run had no chip damage

This is round 1 right?

If you need to you can take out Roxanne and use Kiawe EX instead. If he's gridded for mpr that makes things easier.

[plucky pewter]

holy heck finally im done and yes it was round 1

got fortunate that cyrus dodged an aoe early and they buffed multiple times so i got all 4 buffs with roxeanne

[toxic cobalt]

Nice!

If you ever get the chance to grid Roxanne you can make it much much smoother

[plucky pewter]

thank you

yeah i have a few other units i want to grid first, but as all know, sync orbs arent exactly a widely freely obtainable resource so im trying to pick and choose who to grid carefully atm while im still building up

dont know if i should go for grimsley or marshal for round 2

[toxic cobalt]

What's your Grimsley team/

[plucky pewter]

Piers, alder and skyla

piers is there just for the crit buff for alder

[keen jasper]

And also, Piers can fill your gauge back

[toxic cobalt]

Can try that one if Skyla is gridded

[plucky pewter]

skyla is gridded yes

[toxic cobalt]

You'll need to do post-sync though

[plucky pewter]

alright then

still trying for triple queue?

[toxic cobalt]

Always

With Skyla it should be really easy

[plucky pewter]

alright 🙂

ill go give it a whirl

[toxic cobalt]

Don't use Alder's tm before the enemy syncs though.

[plucky pewter]

ok so after enemy sync then pop alder tm

oooft this paralysis

actually, should i just go for caitlin round 2 since having to use post-sync? or since have the ash/red combo just leave it for last

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah go on, Caitlin it

Good idea

Although can you take SSBlue out?

In case he is useful elsewhere

[plucky pewter]

yeah i could take him out

ill swap ssblue for sselesa

and done

[toxic cobalt]

easy

[plucky pewter]

now back to grimsley

[toxic cobalt]

Can presync now

[plucky pewter]

i can use alder tm early now?

[toxic cobalt]

yep

first turn

and then you can hyper beam forever as Piers handles crit

[plucky pewter]

alright

[somber escarp]

I think this stage would be a lot easier if you just use ssa cythina instead of piers

Alder can pre sync the stage with a ex support. And with Cynthia +6 def/sp def your likely to survive first sync even with pre sync parameters

Your cythina is also 3/5 she can buff crit

[plucky pewter]

I'll give that a go

thanks @somber escarp that change worked fantastic 🙂

now just marshal to go 😄

[somber escarp]

Mewtwo, bianca, kiawe/morty is your easiest path to victory

For the champion Lucas, rayquaza, kiawe/morty is your easiest path to victory

[clever bronze]

Which round should I battle shauntal and caitlin on? R3 is phys reduc and r4 is special atk boost

@sick inlet

I'm on r3

[sick inlet]

Do Shauntal R3, your Caitlin team will oblitrate Caitlin even with double sp.attak

[clever bronze]

Ok

forgot to switch cyrus grids

[keen silo]

And Shauntal R4 is generally a bad idea

Unless u kill it pre sync

[toxic cobalt]

Even pre-sync it still hits hard

[plucky pewter]

my dumbass out here wondering why giovanni dying so quick and i havent changed the damn tactics

[plucky pewter]

damn, the side boys eat me up

[keen jasper]

Who are you facing and what round?

[plucky pewter]

marshal r4

[keen jasper]

What's your team?

[plucky pewter]

kiawe/giovanni/bianca

[keen jasper]

Do you have Sabrina?

[plucky pewter]

yeah i do, i was using her inplace of kiawe

but sabrina isnt gridded

[keen jasper]

I don't think her being gridded matters, she's only there to buff Giovanni's Sp. Atk.

And also grant critical buff to Giovanni and Bianca

[toxic cobalt]

Sides are eating that up?

Are you making sure to only use psychic terrain as 3rd and 6th move?

[plucky pewter]

yeah im using psychic terrain at end of turn so mewtwo psychic gets use of it