Champion Stadium

[grizzled hearth]

Which team?

[quiet vapor]

Fall caitlin is perfect for her. We were trying to find the best 3rd partner

[quiet vapor]

Anni Lillie and fall caitlin

[grizzled hearth]

I meant which battle

[quiet vapor]

10k mm

Nothing specific

[grizzled hearth]

I meant which opponent

[quiet vapor]

No specific oponent. I know it sounds dumb but i just feel like the team can use a better 3rd slot and dont know who to use

[grizzled hearth]

Ok, that's what I needed to know

[quiet vapor]

Oh let me link my first message too

[grizzled hearth]

Honestly, I don't know what Fall Caitlin does, but I'm all to familiar with Anni Lillie

[quiet vapor]

This one.

[plush tangle]

fall caitlin buffes speed, atk, both defenses and accuracy

as well as Quick Tempo and light screen/reflect post first sync

[quiet vapor]

Def, Sp Def, crit, accuracy, gauge accelaration, 4 type of fild effect

its a lot of stuff at 3/5

[grizzled hearth]

Then how about something that gives you spa up?

If not then pair her up with another Alolan

What do you have that does that?

[quiet vapor]

I only seem to have SS kris for it, and she has better uses

[plush tangle]

why would you play fall caitlin with anni lillie tho

she doesn't really help

[lunar meadow]

Sableye is fine at 2/5

[quiet vapor]

Then who should i use?

Thats exactly why i want to improve the lillie team cause i felt like it was lacking better suporta so im open to suggestions

[plush tangle]

ok the real question is "why do you off type with anni lillie"
she really is a unit that wants to be on type tbh

[grizzled hearth]

I'm honestly thinking the only thing she can have is speed boosts and spa up and that's it

[quiet vapor]

Ive offtyped with anni lillie, kiawe and faitlin in the past

[plush tangle]

uh

[quiet vapor]

But if she really is an exclusive on type ig ill stop trying and use other stuff

[plush tangle]

I think her damage output is too low for off type hoenn

[quiet vapor]

Havent tried speed boosts, let me see what i have

[grizzled hearth]

I mean, they just want to make her be able to off type

So let's just try to help out

Actually what am I saying, ghost zone exists

Unless you don't have SSRCynthia

[mellow linden]

The obvious answer would be “use SSR Cynthia”, but I’m guessing if they had her they’d be using her

[plush tangle]

if they had ssr cynthia they wouldn't be asking us help to build a team (i hope)

[quiet vapor]

I might need to run away...

alright hear me out first

I do have 3/5 ex ss cynthia, but shes paired with marshadow and SS dawn. And these 3 make a perfect team

[plush tangle]

oh

[quiet vapor]

So since Lillie wasnt necessary and shes op i was trying to make a team just for her

But i give up if she really is only for on type

[plush tangle]

fall caitlin is actually not that bad since she gives speed and bulk in both stats and kiawe is good as well for quick tempo and potions, but you still might lack power

[lunar meadow]

I love Sableye

[plush tangle]

you should be able to survive a sync if you can't presync

[lunar meadow]

It's a great defensive unit here

[quiet vapor]

Ill just leave it alone for now and use it when its ghost week

But i do have 1 team that i cant even on type with and i wanted to know why

[grizzled hearth]

Or you could spec into potion for AnniLillie

To make the team more defensive and last longer

By sacrificing stuff like Double Down

[quiet vapor]

I was trying to create a team for Pal Marnie. I used Bisharp and Faitlin but this team just seems to suck

Which is odd considering how everyone hypes up pal marnie

[quiet vapor]

Doubt that it would help that much, since lillie is my only dps on that team she needs to constantly attack

[mellow linden]

Both teams would be Ghost-type, though, so unless you’re dead set on being able to use both A. Lillie and SS Korrina in the same week I see no reason to restrict yourself from using SSR Cynthia on both teams

[manic mica]

Not certain because I don’t own her, but I believe Pal Marnie is hyped up for her sync nuke, which is at 3/5.

[manic mica]

Caitlin appreciation!!

[plush tangle]

She enables a lot of 2v3 shenanigans yeah

I used her to 2v3 sidney with SC Emmet

took me some hours tho lol

[manic mica]

Doesn’t Faitlin also have quick tempo? Or is that a tile on her grid?

[manic mica]

I suppose she’s not solely for on typing, but she appreciates on-typing a lot more than off typing because of her passive, super preparation.

[manic mica]

I never liked Sableye until Faitlin made her debut

[plush tangle]

yeah innate quick tempo

which messes up quad queue so you have to run adrenaline

[quiet vapor]

Its just because i only have like 6 or 7 good 2k teams, so sometimes using both on the same week would help me

[quiet vapor]

Even so, people hype up bisharp but the guy dies in 1 hit because of his tm

So i really dont know what im doing wrong with that steel team

[manic mica]

Yeah, that’s why I don’t use him

[little crag]

So which one do you recommend?

🤔

[mellow linden]

Sounds like you really just need help with getting more teams put together rather than needing to improve an existing one, then

[mellow linden]

Skyla would provide Potion, Roxanne would provide more Sp. Atk. buffs and Wide Guard. Up to you, really

[manic mica]

But that’s basically the gimmick with Grimsely, even with his original outfit, it’s the same thing. Grimsely is a gamble, and gambles aren’t my cup of tea.

[quiet vapor]

Welp im trying to create a new steel team but i cant

[little crag]

I'd say I'd like to go with Roxanne

[mellow linden]

Alrighty!

[little crag]

Which Roxanne btw?

💀

[mellow linden]

Roxanne is the one with Nosepass/Probopass, Roxie is the one with Scolipede

There’s only 1 Roxanne

[little crag]

I just don't know the English character names

Lol

[mellow linden]

Hop + Palentine’s Marnie + K. Grimsley or Gladion?

[normal falcon]

Question
Im not confident in my abilities against either Sidney or Glacia this week
I just 3/5ed SSRed EX, would it be feasible to sync nuke with him against one of them?

Im gonna pull for SSRed(T) once he comes out, and maybe cynthia if Red goes well, i have 2 pities so

[manic mica]

Pop Rox 🤭

[mellow linden]

Ah, fair enough

[little crag]

I just don't see any roxanne

💀

[normal falcon]

Probobass

Nosepass

The one with the schnozz

[mellow linden]

She’s a 3-star with Nosepass or Probopass depending on if you evolved it

[quiet vapor]

I was using Faitlin plus pal marnie plus K. grimsley. But grimsley dies to any hit he takes and them both do a really low amount of damage

[manic mica]

You can filter it by rock types to find her easier

[mellow linden]

Sounds like you’re having trouble using K. Grimsley, so maybe just do Hop + Palentine’s Marnie + Gladion

Hop provides Attack and Crit + does solid damage in his own right, P. Marnie gives Steel Zone, and Gladion’s your DPS since he can be any type

[little crag]

Should I upgrade her sync grid since she's 5/5?

💀

Or is it useless

[mellow linden]

Yeah, her grid’s pretty good

[little crag]

Also is she worth powering up to 5/5?

[manic mica]

No, as you’ll find her very easily

She’ll basically be in every multi you do

🤭

[little crag]

Well yeah she usually is

[mellow linden]

Use 3- and 4-star powerups on her for sure, but avoid using move candies

[little crag]

Sorry

I meant

[manic mica]

Ah oop

[little crag]

To 5*

Not 5/5

Kek

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah she’s good

[manic mica]

I thought you meant move level, my bad.

[mellow linden]

5-star powerups are dependent on if you like her enough to do so

[plush tangle]

I raised my Roxanne to 5*

She's one of the best units to 5*, not the best but one of

[little crag]

My only problem is that I have literally 0 exp books

[toxic cobalt]

Are you levelling units past 120?

[little crag]

🥶

[normal falcon]

If you havent cleaned out training area yet, its worth doing

[little crag]

I did

[quiet vapor]

Alright, ill try that, thanks!

[little crag]

Some yeah

[mellow linden]

Can always wait a bit, you have a whole week to finish up Champion Stadium

[mellow linden]

No problem, I wish you the best!

[little crag]

Indeed

[toxic cobalt]

That is why you’re out of books. Best to avoid that early on.

[little crag]

I see

120 is fine for everyone?

[toxic cobalt]

Yep

More than enough

[little crag]

Kk

[mellow linden]

Yeah, 120 will get you through 90% or more of content

[sonic blaze]

which units have a sync grid/stuff that helps them reduce additional stats? been struggling with glacia/sydney... been trying to just nuke, but the only "stat" reducer i can think of (aside from lyra) is Kukui... or inconsistent shadow balls/psychics.

[toxic cobalt]

Have you tried filtering by known moves?

[mellow linden]

You have Lucian?

[quaint solar]

Anyone got parameters without using strength 6

[mellow linden]

Depends on how many points you’re going for. For a 2k run Strength 6 is one of the easier parameters to work with

[toxic cobalt]

Full offensive

[quaint solar]

Don't know what you mean by that
Strength 6 does way 2 much damage. Getting killed of so easily its a shame. None of presets are surviving

[toxic cobalt]

All attack parameters and then you only need to give strength +5

[true prism]

that hits even harder lmao

both presync and postsync is going to hit at least as hard as strength 6

unless you do like stall lol

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if you’re going for 2k you should expect the opponents’ damage output to be quite high unless you’re doing Poison stall

[plush tangle]

@true prism I see you

[mellow linden]

That’s what defensive Supports are for

[true prism]

lyra op

[plush tangle]

lyra op indeed

[true prism]

need to make mine 3/5 to do that 😩

[plush tangle]

not even needed lol

just flinch lock to death

[true prism]

kills faster than he can sync?

[plush tangle]

you can pretty easily survive the sync

[true prism]

i see, might try it myself, see if my 1/5 no ex can do it

[plush tangle]

and I also survived a psychic after, but that was thanks to ex

[true prism]

oh no

[plush tangle]

but I shouldn't have been hit by psychic in the first place

[toxic cobalt]

But I avoid +6 strength because of higher defence

[plush tangle]

with proper flinch lock he's just dead post sync

check my video, you'll see how dead he is after that psychic lol

[true prism]

they were saying strength 6 hits too hard for them

i do also enjoy pre sync with strength less than 6

[plush tangle]

grassy glide the mid, grassy glide a side, grassy glide the mid, grassy glide the other since
repeat

[toxic cobalt]

Hmmm hard to get less than that. Unless you’re adding HP

[mellow linden]

I think any issues about too much damage from opponents could be solved with the right team comp

[true prism]

definitely

[toxic cobalt]

Unless it’s aoe crits

[true prism]

a stage like that exists?

[toxic cobalt]

I think Bertha had one

[mellow linden]

Jasmine or Fall Caitlin says hi

[true prism]

hope she wasn't too high damage to go along with that

[toxic cobalt]

[mellow linden]

I never had much trouble with Bertha in Sinnoh CS, tbh

Aaron and Lucian were the problem children for me

Specifically Electric weak Aaron and Bug weak Lucian

[toxic cobalt]

Headstart +2 crit Bertha flashbacks. Although Aaron was the worst. I was never troubled by Lucian.

[mellow linden]

I’ll probably be smacking Bug weak Lucian around off-type with SS Korrina next time he shows his face

[sonic blaze]

i have 1/5 lucian, gonna check him lol

some very nice passives, hopefully mixed with ss seeena i can nuke

ty for the info

[mellow linden]

1/5 Lucian is absurdly good for helping Sp. Atk. DPS

[austere quest]

To

[quaint solar]

@frosty axle here it is.

[mellow linden]

Sometimes you just need to reset for good opening move RNG, though I still think you’d be better off running Hop, 3/5 Hilbert, or 3/5 Sonia over Phoebe on that team

[frosty axle]

I would focus on flinching only and using Electric terrain just before Zekrom sync

Dusknoir is also weaker to special

since it buffs defense I think

[quaint solar]

What pokemon is hilbert and Sonia

[mellow linden]

Hilbert is Samurott (or Oshawott or Dewott depending on if you evolved it), Sonia is Yamper

[sonic blaze]

fak, no luck 😦

[frosty axle]

Personally I would use a special defense and crit buffer if you can't get flinches going

[sonic blaze]

oh well, gonna try with 1/5 alder maybe lol

[frosty axle]

You might struggle with Alder

[mellow linden]

This is for Sidney, right?

[austere fable]

How hard is this CSMM? Is it harder then the the last two weeks, or easier?

[toxic cobalt]

Easier than the last two weeks

[frosty axle]

Felt easier for me, nothing too bad, Sidney is as annoying as always

[sonic blaze]

yup

[empty portal]

Any good off type teams for Sidney rd 4?

I'm struggling to beat him lol

[toxic cobalt]

Physical attacker, special tank, flincher I guess

[sonic blaze]

only offtype dps i can think that i own is SS red , SS serena or SS ethan

[toxic cobalt]

Wait no, phyiscla tank

[mellow linden]

If you have Evelyn, Evelyn + Marley + SS Serena can off-type Sidney no problem

[sonic blaze]

i can get her 🤔

[mellow linden]

If you don’t have her, MistyDuck might work instead

Would just need at least 1 Trainer Move MP Refresh

[sonic blaze]

ill try it in abit, thx!

[mellow linden]

No problem

[manic mica]

Someone mind helping me with Phobe?

[frosty axle]

What Electric types you got?

[quaint solar]

Same

[frosty axle]

Alolan Golem does surprisingly well on there

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1013804386960552027

if you need some ideas

[empty portal]

@mellow linden Will your Evelyn suggestion help me against Sidney?

[plush tangle]

So I did a little funny

4300 points steven

[manic mica]

Been trying with these fellas but it's hard to get it off before enemy sync

[mellow linden]

Evelyn + Marley + SS Serena? I don’t see why not if you have Evelyn already

[empty portal]

Which mon does Evelyn and Serena have again?

[mellow linden]

Evelyn has Entei, SS Serena has Zygarde

[empty portal]

I don't have Zygarde :/

[manic mica]

Anyone have any suggestions?

[frosty axle]

Ye electric stage is quite tanky so killing before sync is hard

[manic mica]

What do I do then?

Off type?

[toxic cobalt]

What roudn is this?

No gear?

[frosty axle]

I would think Zebstrika would hit harder sync nuke than Zekrom

if you can level it

[manic mica]

second, kinda have to off type the whole thing

[toxic cobalt]

Are you able to quadqueue?

[manic mica]

What stage is best to crack with special damage on off type?

Uh I'm not sure what that is

[manic mica]

Haven't gotten them grinded

[zealous karma]

Recording this week has been pure pain

Hours on champion stadium

• suffering *

[manic mica]

Yeah could, is she that much better?

[toxic cobalt]

Is that unusual?

[frosty axle]

She can sync nuke quite hard

[zealous karma]

How

Mine only did 15K

That’s double my nuke

[plush tangle]

Just shared my 4300 points Steven run in #1011786909011423282, if someone is interested in seeing it

maybe @true prism to see the whole strat in action

[quaint solar]

Also I am getting killed 1st sync

[frosty axle]

with same sync buffs and electric terrain?

[zealous karma]

Support Ex and E terrain yes

I even had her tm active for guranteed crit

[mellow linden]

Always good to see Elesa recommended for Electric weak stages

She’s great

[mellow linden]

Inertia tile?

[frosty axle]

how many special defense buffs?

maybe they not maxing her speed

[mellow linden]

Based on what I can see in their video, none

[frosty axle]

Doesn't burgh buff defenses?

[manic mica]

can you show me your sync grid for her?

[mellow linden]

Pretty sure he does

[frosty axle]

sure

[frosty axle]

so he must have not used happy colors

[mellow linden]

Apparently

Does N reduce his own Sp. Def.?

[frosty axle]

nope

only defense

[mellow linden]

Just checked and you’re right

[frosty axle]

since they got -1 defense means they never used Burgh

[sonic blaze]

i feel yeah.. struggling hard with 2 lol

[quaint solar]

You want me 2 change to a special defense buffer, is that what your asking me to do?

[mellow linden]

Spring Burgh does buff Sp. Def.

You have to use his Trainer Move

[manic mica]

I don't think I did something right

[frosty axle]

is that wild charge?

[manic mica]

Yay but this is after sync

[frosty axle]

are they paralyzed cant see

[manic mica]

Sync only did that much

Yeah

[frosty axle]

Doesn't seem to be EX?

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t look like she’s Paralyzed based on your screenshot

Did you use “Electrifying!” before Sync?

Because it could definitely have just not crit if you didn’t

[manic mica]

She isn't

[mellow linden]

That’s also only 1st Sync and so lacks the Sync buff damage multipliers

[manic mica]

3 star on crit

She was paralyzed

[mellow linden]

Sync Moves have innate -1 crit unless otherwise specified

[manic mica]

OH

Ok

[mellow linden]

That’s part of why Elesa’s so great, she can guarantee that her Sync crits

[frosty axle]

Yes she is amazing for that

other thing is did Zebstrika have speed buffs?

only see +1 on others

[manic mica]

With electrifying

[mellow linden]

I don’t see any Speed buffs, which would hugely impact her Sync damage. It’s also, again, only 1st Sync, which means the damage will be a lot lower than someone who’s used a Support EX beforehand (which is usually what happens)

[frosty axle]

I still don't see any speed for Inertia

[thin pecan]

Any tips for bug type this week

Just off type it again?

[manic mica]

Yeah idk what to tell you I'm only limited to 3 units

[mellow linden]

Wdym

[manic mica]

Raichu gives her speed and crit

She buffs her attack

Volkner for field

[mellow linden]

BP Surge’s speed buffs are fairly slow

[manic mica]

What am I supposed to do

[thin pecan]

Raichu doesn’t buff speed

[frosty axle]

Don't you have Hilbert?

[thin pecan]

Use Arcanine girl or something

[frosty axle]

it does

[manic mica]

Nope, 2/5 not invested...

[mellow linden]

Could do Hop

[simple storm]

hilberto

[manic mica]

Don't have 2 not 3

[mellow linden]

Not gonna help with Speed, but he’d have more bulk and Potion

[frosty axle]

You have to be lucky for speed from fast track

[quaint solar]

Not even this team surviving 😪

[mellow linden]

No one on that team gives Sp. Def. buffs

[manic mica]

Is Phoebe weak to Special damage

Or Physical

Kid at least

[frosty axle]

You could go this

[mellow linden]

I don’t think either one does more damage to Phoebe

[frosty axle]

its same defenses

[thin pecan]

Any good teams for bug?

[toxic cobalt]

Alder? SC Emmet?

[manic mica]

I'm trying to do 2k and I'm sussed that won't do it either. Not sure if it's gonna work
We could try off typing?

[thin pecan]

Neither of those

Stall it

[toxic cobalt]

Yep

[manic mica]

I stalled my first battle

[frosty axle]

Did you try the grid I just posted

[mellow linden]

Could always stall again if you’ve got a 2nd Poisoner

[toxic cobalt]

That is what the parameter is for

[manic mica]

No, I'll try now

Csmm round 4 against Drake
I've tried Olivia, valkner, ssleaf and no luck
Also Olivia Gio Persian and Skyla but didn't work either
What should I use?

[manic mica]

I used Swanna, SS Leaf and Jannie

[frosty axle]

gives 50% chance for speed when using spark

[manic mica]

I'll try again now

[thin pecan]

I mean they gave us like 3 stall teams

[mellow linden]

Could use Lucy or BP Erika + Ghetsis (or Tech Nidoqueen if you have that eggmon) + tank if you have to end up using stall

[frosty axle]

New Janine and Crobat is also good

[mellow linden]

Haven’t done anything with her yet, but she probably could be solid

[toxic cobalt]

New Janine and Crobat looks pretty good yeah

[frosty axle]

Magneton has synchro was confusing with that but she has recuperation

[toxic cobalt]

Mistyduck is also a good stall tank, as is BP Morty

[frosty axle]

Also Xerneas

[eternal mist]

How do u use it in a team? Crobat^2 and tech nido?

[mellow linden]

MistyDuck wants at least one MP Refresh in most cases though, so be warned

[frosty axle]

You go full evasion grid

[eternal mist]

Yeah I'm on full Eva for her alr

[frosty axle]

you buff and hope you evade moves nothing really more to it

besides doing poison

[manic mica]

Yeah...no

Literally 5k damage

[frosty axle]

How you not getting speed?

[thin pecan]

Use arcane

[manic mica]

Because I can't use attack moves? Like Raichu can't give her all the stats

[thin pecan]

Arcanine

[manic mica]

Like she gives her self attack, raichu gives her crit and paralyzes and Volkner sets field

[frosty axle]

Raichu can buff attack and crit so only focus on sparking

[manic mica]

He can't do all of it before sync

[frosty axle]

Spark does paralyze

funny it worked fine on my third account

[mellow linden]

I’m just gonna say that pre-Syncing is impossible on Round 4

Don’t even bother

[manic mica]

I'm sorry what speed, spamming spark does nothing

[mellow linden]

It’s post-Sync or bust

[manic mica]

it does paralyze

[grizzled hearth]

Well it's possible, just never easy

[manic mica]

Fast track 2 is only 30% of the time

This just doesn't seem reliable at all

[mellow linden]

She has innate Fast Track and a Fast Track grid tile to make it a little over 50/50

If you wanna do that

[frosty axle]

yes they apparently did that grid I posted I presume

so should be 50

I want to see a video of them playing

[mellow linden]

I think the biggest problems are 1) lack of Support EX to give a huge damage boost, and 2) this being on Round 4, so Phoebe Syncs way earlier

[manic mica]

nah it's round 2

Not 4?

[mellow linden]

Wait, what?

[frank shuttle]

I'm confused on this how come it doesn't do dmg???

[manic mica]

I'm in round 2

Of CSS

[mellow linden]

Then how is Phoebe about to Sync while you’ve only gotten to 7 on your Sync countdown?

After 1st Sync, obviously

[toxic cobalt]

No speed

[frosty axle]

use it on first turn

[manic mica]

Because set up?

[mellow linden]

That shouldn’t impact where your Sync countdown is

[frank shuttle]

I did that and I'm like wth it didn't do dmg lol

[manic mica]

that pic is after sync

[thin pecan]

I can’t come up with a good bug team

[mellow linden]

Yes

[toxic cobalt]

That's because there are so few good bugs!

[mellow linden]

But by the time Phoebe Syncs you should have 1 Sync and your countdown at like 4 at the highest

[thin pecan]

Any suggestions because we can’t off type normally either

[manic mica]

nah Phoebe sync kills

[thin pecan]

Since he is special resistant

[manic mica]

idk what ur talking about

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah don't let Phoebe sync

[manic mica]

this is all pre her sync

[mellow linden]

I know

[toxic cobalt]

You should sync twice before her sync

[manic mica]

How? Without sync countdown moves?

[frosty axle]

I want to see a video Josh

[toxic cobalt]

Pphysical striker? Or stall?

[mellow linden]

By the time Phoebe’s Sync countdown is at 1, you should have already Synced once and have your Sync countdown at 4 at the highest

[thin pecan]

But who is even a good physical striker

That can also off type

[quiet vapor]

Trying to make an ice team, the only thing that i have is Hala. Im thinking about putting Faitlin with him sicne she gives gauge accelaration and speed. I have no clue for the 3rd unit though...

Is the new froslass a good 3rd?

[toxic cobalt]

This is the normal way to do CS

[frosty axle]

Me thinks they using wrong parameters

[thin pecan]

All of the good off type units are all specials

[manic mica]

I'm using the pre sync ones

[toxic cobalt]

I reckon Maxie can do it

[mellow linden]

Do you have decreased sync countdown parameters active?

[thin pecan]

Don’t have him

Wait that’s the red team guy right

[manic mica]

Worked

[toxic cobalt]

If you don't triple queue parameters don't matter

[manic mica]

Except I replaced no status with attack 1

Amazing team!

[frosty axle]

unless you got reduced cd one

[mellow linden]

Alright, follow-up question: are you triple-queueing?

[manic mica]

Np! Glad I helped!

Yeah ofc

[toxic cobalt]

Perish the thought

[manic mica]

I just quit playing after dealing 5k at first sync to take a screenshot

[mellow linden]

So then Phoebe is somehow getting a reduced Sync countdown

[manic mica]

No.

I just don't play out the match because she'll just whipe

No point

[frank shuttle]

Yeah this guy sucks

[toxic cobalt]

Do you know how to quadqueue?

[frosty axle]

record a video lol?

[mellow linden]

Wait, hold on, I think I get it now

You do the Sync, and then don’t queue up anything else and just let the AI run wild while you screenshot?

Do I have that right?

[manic mica]

yes

Because sync didn't do damage

[mellow linden]

Alright, that mystery is solved then

[manic mica]

Yeah

[mellow linden]

I think you’re just expecting too much damage for a 1st Sync

[manic mica]

I also get 0 speed, every time I've tried it failed

It says hostile enviorment

[mellow linden]

The damage eevee got was with 3 Sync buffs

[manic mica]

Yeah dude Idk how you're supposed to survive that lol

[frosty axle]

I still got a lot more than 5k on first sync

[manic mica]

I can record a video if it's that much of a mistery

[mellow linden]

Did you get a Support EX before you Synced with Elesa?

[frosty axle]

Ye even if you count that he wouldn't get close

[mellow linden]

I think overall the team comp just won’t work for speedrunning the stage, Surge takes too much time to set up buffs unless Elesa spends some turns on X Attack and there’s no Support EX

[toxic cobalt]

Surge not the best tank too

[frosty axle]

That's why I went Blue since he gives speed on to the top

[zealous karma]

SSB Lusamine Bugsy

[frosty axle]

I used Lunge Lusamine

somehow it just survived

[toxic cobalt]

Lusamine survived what now?

[manic mica]

Yeah it takes so long to set up even base stats and then it does no damage on sync

[frosty axle]

Survived Sidney sync

[mellow linden]

IMO it’s probably best to drop Volkner, run someone like Skyla or BP Morty, and go for post-Sync. Yes, you miss out on Electric Terrain, but that’s not gonna help you too much anyways if you can’t survive long enough to actually get set up

BP Morty would be better than Skyla because of Sp. Def. buffs

[toxic cobalt]

There's a first time for everything

[thin pecan]

Which bushy

[toxic cobalt]

Hau Sycamore is always a good post-sync electric team.

[mellow linden]

Alternatively you could off-type or stall depending on roster

Switching things up to Hau + Volkner + Support (Sabrina is a great pick) would also be a great option

[manic mica]

Do you think I can just off type it, because I have a lot a lot of good units and I'm struggling with this one, literally no good fighting or rock or lightning pairs

[mellow linden]

You have Hau and Sabrina?

[manic mica]

Yeah but I'm tired of using resources\ on units I don't use

[mellow linden]

Alright, then let’s see your roster and try to figure out if off-typing is a viable option

[manic mica]

My strikers and Techs

[mellow linden]

Though if you’re not using Sabrina you really should (not necessarily for any specific team comp, just in general), she’s an excellent Support

Isn’t SS Cyrus a free win at 3/5?

[toxic cobalt]

I would say offtyping is a viable option

[manic mica]

Yeah it is, and I like it better then normal typing for stuff I don't have

Idk how to play the SS Cyrus too good? I have him grided for sync nuke

But also she has status cure so... not too much of a free win

[frosty axle]

It was a very close one was surprised lol was in my video

[mellow linden]

A Sun team based around SS May could be good, a Giovanni team with A. May and Sabrina to support could be good, SS Steven probably could obliterate the stage

[tulip snow]

I uh, think you’re pretty stacked

[toxic cobalt]

Run Steven Deoxys with May Latias

That should clear basically every level ever

[tulip snow]

You can get a 10k without much trouble

[mellow linden]

Condition Shield, not status cure, but that does screw with SS Cyrus, you’re right

[manic mica]

Yeah I was not sure where to use my Deoxys

Cuz I have all of the fights left over

Except Dark

Bug weak

[tulip snow]

Hmm

You should be good for Steven

[toxic cobalt]

Why don't you build teams for each stage first then?

[manic mica]

I was thinking about using at fourth because quick nuke kill

Steven is gonna get crushed by Erikka

[tulip snow]

Sidney is a gigantic pain so Steven may be a good idea there

[manic mica]

Nah Sidney dead

[mellow linden]

They beat Sidney already

[manic mica]

Poison stall

4 fights left

[tulip snow]

Ah good

[manic mica]

champion fight is for Leafion

[tulip snow]

Let’s see

Do you have SS blue?

[manic mica]

Supports

[frosty axle]

Why not use SS Blue then?

[tulip snow]

Hmm….

[mellow linden]

Assuming you either don’t have or don’t want to build any 5-star not in that list you’ve given us, I think maybe:

• SS May + Blaine + support

• SS Steven + A. May + filler

• SS Serena + Marley + Dawn or BP Morty

For general teams, and:

• SS Erika + 2 supports

For Steven could work

[tulip snow]

Nice supports

[grizzled hearth]

If you have SSLyra you could take advantage of both sun and terrain

[manic mica]

Don't have the SS

[tulip snow]

N would make Phoebe pretty easy

[simple storm]

cant do it with N

1/5 tho

[manic mica]

N couldn't yeah

[simple storm]

is she physically strong?

[manic mica]

she's just bulky

[tulip snow]

Because of piercing blows you can ignore her gimmick

[manic mica]

still you need a lot a lot of set up

[simple storm]

ill wait on doing it until i have red

lol

[eternal mist]

That works too

[manic mica]

Not an option for me lol, literally at rock bottom, had to pitty for Archie yesterday

[toxic cobalt]

You have plenty of units Joshy

[tulip snow]

Speaking of Archie

SS Blue, Archie, and Cyrus could work for Phoebe

I got 1.75k on it for the sync buff round, was going for 9k so I’m not sure if it’s feasible 2k though

[eternal mist]

Archie had a lot of dmg with thunder yes

[tulip snow]

Takes a bit of Thunder RNG

[toxic cobalt]

Surely Archie can 2k

[north crown]

oh wow.. glacia round 4 was actually the first problematic stage I've struggled with in a while

[manic mica]

what team do I build out of it?

[tulip snow]

I obliterated her off-type round 3, I think round 4 is just hard

I struggled a lot with round 4

[toxic cobalt]

Plenty of teams, depends what you're trying to do.

Round 4 is hard. I used the Sycamore cheat card.

[tulip snow]

Do keep in mind his Archie is 1/5

So it doesn’t have all the Thunder grid things

[toxic cobalt]

Could probably offtype with water

[north crown]

or even flinch hax with volkner

• e terrain

[eternal mist]

What is this cheat card you are referring to

[tulip snow]

That could work

[north crown]

oh no volkner

[tulip snow]

Especially since volk can status

oh nvm

[manic mica]

I do have Volk

Lol

[toxic cobalt]

I'll never tell

[manic mica]

I'm just really confused

[tulip snow]

I just ran SSBlue, Cyrus, and Archie

[north crown]

waitaminute you can just offtype with any of the may alts

[manic mica]

On what to do now

[eternal mist]

Why do u tease

[tulip snow]

I was referring to phoebe

[toxic cobalt]

lol

[tulip snow]

But he may work for other rounds

[manic mica]

trying with the fire one rn and it can't take down pho, only 3k damage per hit at -6 defense

So I think I'll use that team for something else

[north crown]

that's because phoebe needs either status condition or piercing blows

[north crown]

you got N

[manic mica]

Yeah I can't burn her

[north crown]

why not use him?

Zekrom has this passive called "piercing blows"

[tulip snow]

I’d run that team for something else

[north crown]

which ignores the status condition bullcrap

[manic mica]

Yeah I will

[manic mica]

still almost no damage, 1 out of 5

It gets close but she kills

[tulip snow]

Probably parameters

[manic mica]

nah pre sync parms

Without condition

[north crown]

use post sync parameters

use 2 bulky supports to help

that's what I did for glacia round 4

[mellow linden]

I would not recommend doing pre-Sync unless you have an uber-charged roster

[manic mica]

Okay...

what then

[north crown]

+101

[frozen depot]

Teambuilding 101:

Step 1: pick a damage dealer ( / or with high damage)

• take a look at their moveset; note what they buff themselves in terms of offensive stats (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer)

Step 2: picking appropriate for your damage dealer

• take a look at your through the filter option and the Known Moves tab and pick two teammates that fill in what your damage dealer is missing (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer )

Addendum: if your damage dealer's needs can be filled in with only one support, then your third team slot is more flexible and you can choose defensive (potions, buffing defenses, lowering attack) or a second damage dealer

[mellow linden]

Pre-Sync 2k is the most demanding team building because if you don’t KO before Sync you fail

Post-Sync is more forgiving, and I’ve used those parameters even when a team can pre-Sync

[manic mica]

i GET THAT

I've been playing for 2 years

I know how to do MM but

[north crown]

Kiawe, BP Giovanni, Hop, Aaron are a few examples of supports that can buff N's offensive power (attack + crit)

[manic mica]

it won't do damage

[simple storm]

why dont u use archie

with thunder

[north crown]

he needs paralysis

[manic mica]

1 out of 5

And needs status

too much, not enough set up

[north crown]

at 1/5 para chance is questionable

[toxic cobalt]

Sounds like it's time to roll resets

[north crown]

bro just run someone stupidly overpowered like SSB

or hack the game with piers' obstruct

[mellow linden]

Just do stall if you can’t deal enough damage, Lucy or BP Erika + Ghetsis + tank

[tulip snow]

Presynced Phoebe 1.75k with Archie, ungridded SSB, and Cyrus

[manic mica]

actually wait, tornadus

[north crown]

just get a stupidly bulky special tank (Elio, SSB, Elesa, Cheryl even idfk)

SSB + Elio duo is a surprisingly good core duo

highly recommend if you don't want to use brain cells trying to optimize teams (LG flashbacks)

[tulip snow]

Oh

You’re support syncing, right?

On sync buff round a support sync is op

[manic mica]

I'll sync with Blue

[zealous karma]

Beedrill

[manic mica]

This team might work, because Landorus is insanely op

is she worth candying to 3

Sitting on 4 supp candies

[simple storm]

hell no

[toxic cobalt]

I completely forgot about him

[subtle forge]

Dat bee

[tulip snow]

Her grid doesn’t have anything really spectacular

Most of her strength comes from her base kit

[manic mica]

Finally

[tulip snow]

Nice work!

[manic mica]

Landorus is soooo strong

Who to @ with this team

[simple storm]

ur gonna win with that no?

[manic mica]

Who do I verse

[simple storm]

idk

try it on both

[manic mica]

who is weaker to defense

[simple storm]

but i would use that team on round 4

ngl

[manic mica]

but third battle makes it faster

I think

double the lowering effects

[simple storm]

who are u gonna nuke with on round 4?

[tulip snow]

He has SSteven and Anni May

[manic mica]

SS Steven

[tulip snow]

Both EX

[manic mica]

lol

[simple storm]

may has sync accel no?

[manic mica]

Yeah

[tulip snow]

Head start 2

[simple storm]

could u in theory do 2 syncs before r4 op does 1?

genuinley curious

[manic mica]

possibly

[tulip snow]

I’ve done it.

Pain in the ass if I do say so myself

But it’s possible

It says in the tips this week to use defense debuffs on Drake

So I’d say use that SS May team for him

[manic mica]

Yup

First try lol

SS May Destroys

[tulip snow]

Awesome

So glacia is last

SSteven’s sync is stronger with more buffs. Maxes at 18 buffs. SSteven gets 10 by just entering attack form

A last teammate that can easily get the other 8 would be good

[manic mica]

what should the last stat increase?

[tulip snow]

Defenses would be nice

[quiet vapor]

Are there any general pool units that can clear poison or bug type 2k easily?

[toxic cobalt]

Koga and Bugsy

[tulip snow]

Skyla easily gets the last buffs

Although Roxanne and Lana can use wide guard

[manic mica]

I used Swanna, SS Leaf and Jannie

[tulip snow]

Which helps as I’m fairly certain she uses blizzard once or twice

[manic mica]

but you can replace Leaf with

other poison

[quiet vapor]

But can they actually easily do it? Or im better off just off typing the stage?

[manic mica]

it's just stall

it's easy

nerf their status and heal

[manic mica]

champ left

[tulip snow]

You have SS Erika if I recall

[simple storm]

ss erika solo's

[minor solstice]

idk how im gonna beat steven

[tulip snow]

You can put her next to Red for his defense debuffs and super effective next

[minor solstice]

smn pls help hard mode steven clear

[simple storm]

whats your stirker

or dps

[tulip snow]

Hop, SS Erika, and Red should make quick work of it

[minor solstice]

xerneas horn leech

ex rosa

and brendan

[simple storm]

lol

use brendan

then

what move level

[minor solstice]

1/5]

[simple storm]

ok so just give him dauntless and yeah

use good tanks

and ur done since brendan can buff himself fully

u will need support ex tho

[minor solstice]

which cookie is dauntless again

ok so rosa brendan and a tank

[simple storm]

the one that also gives vigilance

[simple storm]

yeah

[minor solstice]

blue cookie?

oh im outta those

[simple storm]

then use rosa xspatk after each leaf storm

[minor solstice]

hm ok

they dying too fast tho

which modiifer

[manic mica]

Finished 10k

Thanks for helping on Phoebe

[mellow linden]

#1010274591601598555 is a better place for that, for future reference. But congrats!

[manic mica]

Zekrom really didn't do damage but I got lucky and hit paralysis

[mint light]

Okay

[mint light]

There’s nothing yet (?)

[mellow linden]

Wdym

[tulip snow]

Congrats!

[mint light]

If i go onto #1010274591601598555 it‘s empty

[mellow linden]

Ah, you went into the post within the larger forum

If you hit the back arrow at top left you should be able to get to the place where you can post

[frozen steppe]

Sidney didn’t feel hard at all but I realize I’ve got the cheat code of SCEmmet. Not sure if the types aligned well for me this week or if the whole thing was extremely easy.

Maybe using broken pairs makes the game not feel hard

[rotund iron]

I'm here

[simple storm]

yo

show me your 5*

[rotund iron]

All of them

[simple storm]

yes

[rotund iron]

Here it is

[simple storm]

u can use ghost cynthia for drake

u also have anni N

and cyrus

all of them can do it

and brendan for steven

[rotund iron]

So Cynthia, cyrus, and Anni N can do drake?

[simple storm]

no

each of them can be the main dps

on different teams

[rotund iron]

In which ones

[simple storm]

cynthia+torchic+another support

[rotund iron]

And aren't they techs

[simple storm]

so?

[rotund iron]

What about strikers

[simple storm]

its the same thign

[crystal notch]

Classification is deceiving

[simple storm]

they do damage

[crystal notch]

To be exact, techs are hybrid damage dealers

[simple storm]

Anni N+blaine+special support

[rotund iron]

Wow

I never knew this

Actually

[crystal notch]

So you don't particularly care about whether they're techs or strikers

[simple storm]

Cyrus+Crit buffer+winona

[rotund iron]

Ok I will try that

[crystal notch]

Some techs lean more to support though, so do check the tier list

[rotund iron]

And what for Steven if I can get to him

[simple storm]

brendan+rosa+tank

[rotund iron]

I used Rosa with Ash and Volkner

[simple storm]

be sure that brendan has dauntless

[rotund iron]

Dauntless?

[simple storm]

as a lucky skill

[rotund iron]

Oh

What candy is that

[simple storm]

so he doesnt lower his spatk with leaf storm

the one that also gives vigilance

[frozen steppe]

Creamy cookie (the blue one)

[minor solstice]

battle villa closed no more cookies for me

[minor solstice]

i tried ss blue tank

no work

what modifier to use

[rotund iron]

Ok I will try this and hopefully it would work

[minor solstice]

for him

steven

[frozen steppe]

Permanent LA will be good for the cookie grind no?

[minor solstice]

i mean

[simple storm]

idk

[simple storm]

thats gauntlet

[frozen steppe]

Ah I must've misread

[astral crane]

Perm LA will be good for testing teams for gauntlet tho

[simple storm]

LA is gonna be open so u can test stuff before gauntlet

yeh

[rotund iron]

When you said torchic you mean the 3 star one with the mc?

[simple storm]

yes

its a good support

[rotund iron]

Ok I will level him rn

[minor solstice]

@simple storm what modifier should i pick for steven

[simple storm]

not the 4th one

[minor solstice]

2nd one ok?

[simple storm]

sure

[rotund iron]

Would leaf be a good support with Cynthia and Torchic

[simple storm]

she works

[eternal mist]

which cynthia and which leaf

garchomp would prefer to have a sandstorm setter like acrola/bertha/ingo in the team

[simple storm]

renegade cynthia

[eternal mist]

oh

[simple storm]

yah torchic helps finish her tm buffs

[eternal mist]

eevee covers it too with sync

[simple storm]

true but torchic does it faster

and if eevee not ex why bother

[eternal mist]

thats true too

[simple storm]

just sync with cynthia

[eternal mist]

i guess that works too

if ssrcyn can destroy mid there's no reason for eevee to buff defences

[simple storm]

true

[marsh vault]

There's only one torchic in game

[minor solstice]

any suggestions for other clears for steven

cant seem to make sceptile ss blue and ex rosa work

oh my god

i got to the END

1 hp away

[simple storm]

keep trying

[minor solstice]

and then flinched

in pain for two turns

my strat rn is ss blue sync for buffs
then rosa sync for ex buff
and sceptile leaf storms as i get them

dauntless would make this so much easier oml

[simple storm]

nonono

dont sync with blue first

rosa first sync

[minor solstice]

see thats what i was doing

but blue just dies right after

got farther with blue first sync

[simple storm]

use his x defense

first

[minor solstice]

yeah i get that up first

[simple storm]

use 1 use of blue's tm

use the rest when the acceleration of gauge ends

[minor solstice]

ohh

ok

[simple storm]

since brendan can give +2 crit and with +1 it maxed

like use brendan tm first then dire hit + once

[bleak eagle]

Anyone i shouls fight the status condition buff with? I was gonna use sscyrus tangela and seviper

[minor solstice]

ok i can do this

[frank shuttle]

Hell yeah!

Now I need bug rock steel grass

Which bug rock steel is gonna suck xD

[bleak eagle]

Maybe im missinterpreting what status condition mesnt but its doing too little dmg for me to survive long enough for the enemy to die

[trail smelt]

Status condition means stuff like Poison, Burn, Paralysis, and Frozen (lol)

[marsh vault]

You gotta make sure they are status before they sync

Otherwise if you're too late before she sets up status immunity it's gg

[trail smelt]

Phoebe has Healthy Advantage 4 which reduces damage taken if she isn't under one of those

[bleak eagle]

I had badly poisoned everyone with the tangela, maybe im fighting the wrong e4 member?

[trail smelt]

Piercing Blows skills pierces it

[marsh vault]

Are you?

[frank shuttle]

Who on the rock team would you guys pick that can carry lol

[trail smelt]

Are you fighting the ghost one?

[marsh vault]

Piercing blow shouldn't matter then

[frozen steppe]

Is Olivia gridded?

[mellow linden]

Olivia’s amazing

[marsh vault]

Blue or Olivia

Actually Olivia is 3/5

That's gg to drake

Go get em tiger

[trail smelt]

IIRC Olivia has trouble this week because lol speed debuff, but with the right support she can still kick ass.

[bleak eagle]

Idk i was fighting sydney with this team

[trail smelt]

Oh wait this is just to type clear right?

[marsh vault]

Bruh

[trail smelt]

Oh SIDNEY

That's a different fight

[marsh vault]

Sydney doesn't do healthy advantage lol

[mellow linden]

Eh, you can always grab Stone Edge Amped Up if you really need more speed

[frank shuttle]

Look at that xD

[marsh vault]

You're not gonna go far with that team @bleak eagle you can't out damage Sydney

You need a strong striker

Remove tangela and seviper

[bleak eagle]

But i need the grass and dark medals

[trail smelt]

Sidney's gimmick is he hits hard... and then he drops his Dark Zone and hits EVEN HARDER lol

[marsh vault]

Ohhhh

This is reg hard mode?!?

I thought this was master mode

Ok

[minor solstice]

YEAHHH BABYYY STEVEN STOOD NO CHANCE MY FIRST POKEMON LEAGUE CLEAR

tysm @simple storm my goat

[mellow linden]

You can slot them in later (Grass especially since Steven is weak to it) or use different Sync Pairs

[marsh vault]

Do you have another grass or poison pair?

[simple storm]

told u my man

[marsh vault]

Second this

[trail smelt]

Congrats, next week is easier

[simple storm]

congrats

[minor solstice]

:)

[bleak eagle]

Its this e4 version and those are the medals im missin

[simple storm]

good that ur gonna use 3 of them

[trail smelt]

12 types entered not bad

[minor solstice]

10 types for me

[trail smelt]

It'll be awhile before Hoenn returns so your roster should grow by then

[simple storm]

remember to do the rest next week

then u do master mode

[trail smelt]

They can't lol

[simple storm]

and then u get cool ex units

[minor solstice]

i cant

hoenn ends

[simple storm]

oh

[trail smelt]

Next week is Unova

[simple storm]

thats so sad

[trail smelt]

GOOD RIDDANCE HOENN

[minor solstice]

yeah it is :(

i got stuck on fire type last week

[minor solstice]

now i get ss morty for my hard work in the champion stadium :)

[bleak eagle]

Hoenn leaves? Sadge, but ig i got time to unlock master mode for next time

[minor solstice]

you get ex units for beating master mode????

[simple storm]

u get the stuff to make them so yes

[bleak eagle]

The materials to

[minor solstice]

oh next time hoenn comes around will my types stay

[minor solstice]

oh ok

[simple storm]

yes

they do

[minor solstice]

thats great

[minor solstice]

he/him but thank you for your inclusivity <3

[bleak eagle]

Rlly just went monke on last week's clears

Used too much brainpower fitting 12 types so i just went unga bunga on the last 2 fights

[minor solstice]

LOL sometimes unga bunga is the way

[simple storm]

well its still 6 different types

[bleak eagle]

Had alr used water and fairy on the previous 2 battles

[trail smelt]

Haha SSRynthia nuke

[trail smelt]

Love it just smashing right into Dusknoir

[marsh vault]

I forgot what unga bunga means and I'm day 1 player

[trail smelt]

Unga bunga means go all out

Overkill

[marsh vault]

Oh

[bleak eagle]

Turn ur brain off and win

[minor solstice]

unga bunga is a general term lol

like turn brain off

[marsh vault]

You mean obunga

[minor solstice]

like caveman

[marsh vault]

Obunga like Gary mod

[simple storm]

its a term for caveman unga bunga big number kill bad man

[minor solstice]

yup

[bleak eagle]

Caveman presses origin pulse and wins vs steven

Das me

[minor solstice]

no not obunga

please

[marsh vault]

Obunga is basically turn your brain off too

And cheat

[bleak eagle]

I mean if u call the pairs i use cheats, ig it counts

Renegade cynthia do be strong

[marsh vault]

It's ok it's not actual cheating

But it's cheating the CPU lol

[swift swan]

Late reply sorry, but usually CS bosses have 50% resistance to any kind of debuffs. But drake only has 30% resistance to def debuffs

[bleak eagle]

She cant nuke if ghost wish shadow ball spam kills first

Fas how i managed to beat phoebe

[somber escarp]

Infinite zone and weather is alway so fun lol

[blazing narwhal]

Oh i see

[somber escarp]

Ss lyra + ss Erika + maxie against round 5

[bleak eagle]

so in the end, the tangela, darkrai and seviper team was good, but i had to fight phoebe instead of sydney, right?

Cuz if hoenn is leaving im at least unlocking master mode so i dont have to do it again

[frank shuttle]

Haha that was easy as hell!

I hate bug...

[bleak eagle]

Man, covering ground type is gonna be pain

Its either clay or hapu

Rlly should get a ground...anything, soon enough

[trail smelt]

Well

You'll later have access to Nita

After months of saving for tickets lol

[bleak eagle]

Who's that? The landorus girl?

Tought abt getting her if so but i was told coballion was the move

[frank shuttle]

So I'm trying to figure out how can I make Ingo hit hard as hell loo

Only sucks his quick attack is only 3/3

[high monolith]

I got Wally and Roxanne for Glacia, who can I pick for the third place?

I am doing 1,500k

[trail smelt]

Yeah the Landorus BP Master sync pair

And Cobalion is better yeah

[bleak eagle]

Oh well, im at 7.6k points so ig ill get her in like

2 months or something

[dusk swan]

Can anyone help with team comps for beating phoebe idk what it is nothing is cracking her, even if I paralyze her I don’t do enough dmg

I’ve beaten the other three at 2k but can’t beat her

[wary plume]

the ash

[subtle forge]

What if no ash

[wary plume]

pull the ash

[subtle forge]

What if no gems for ash

[wary plume]

buy the gems

[subtle forge]

What if you don’t like ash

Or pikachu

[wary plume]

then don’t even try beating her

[dusk swan]

I used ash on glacia…

[wary plume]

bruh

reset

[frank shuttle]

The $23 isn't bad for 10k

[subtle forge]

🤨

[dusk swan]

No sorry on Sidney cuz I got no bug

[subtle forge]

Oh

Well that’s more believable

Understandable

Sorry bad wording

[simple storm]

can 3/5 sydney clear 2k?

[dusk swan]

Is asleep a status condition

Kk gonna try that