shotguns rework

[ancient aspen]

1. move all shotguns to the main weapon category
2. give them attachment (you know scopes and laser for hip fire)
3. new bullets type for shotguns

• buckshot(regular one)
  -----(purchased)-----
• flechette (mb same with SP bullets increase aimpunch)
• slug (like magnum, more dmg, i dunno...)

4. give them same movement speed like 92 or 94
   smt like this i guess...

[grizzled wagon]

If they do this make it have 100 mobility
Having low mobility with a short range gun is horrible

[ancient aspen]

100 mob bad on my mind because imagine how strong it will be in close maps like island in the apparts you just trying to walk there and guy already pushing you in close quarters with the shotgun and you can be oneshoted

[grizzled wagon]

The thing is in this game shotguns is a hit or miss gun
Sometimes its one shot from across the map and sometimes it's a dead on shot but 33 damage, the only consistent shotty is the m18, aside from that when they add attachments 100% the only shotty that can have attachments are the modern guns, only thing that soundsbad is the slug shot without A penalty equipping it

[ancient aspen]

slug just the idea nothing wrong with it
mb the variants of buckshot like you have less in shell but higher distance

[grizzled wagon]

Slug is not a bad idea it's just gonna be too good
If implemented like some games

I'm having PTSD

A firerate penalty or/and hip fire spread -50
Only gonna be 100% accurate when scope-in

[ancient aspen]

now you not the only one here having PTSD

[grizzled wagon]

A shotgun more like a sniper

[ancient aspen]

battlefield 3/4 flashbacks

[ancient aspen]

[broken vault]

As much of an idea this is. Moving shotguns to be primaries will just have them exist with how inconsistent they can be and relying on you to be in peoples face to be effective.
Everything else is good with attachments and ammo types but classing as a primary just would feel right.

[ancient aspen]

ok now imagine you have the pistols for the "long" range to your shotgun

[broken vault]

But why would I do that when I can have an AR/LMG for that and carry a Shotgun for short range

[ancient aspen]

glock

[broken vault]

19 rounds. Low damage but good RoF with okayish recoil. I'll pass and don't even try the KARD cos its in the same boat except with its better recoil

[ancient aspen]

crossbow

[broken vault]

[ancient aspen]

why not?

[broken vault]

You would end up being a free kill in most situations unless you are sitting in a cqc area.

[grizzled wagon]

Only viable options for shotgun are attachments that makes the gun semi viable and prolly the mobility option

Attachments that makes the gun have longer range,tighter spread, slugs

And 100 mobility to close in the distance between AR sniper players

Well in this game SMG hip fire build works better than the shotgun in most times
Because shotty is so inconsistent

[ancient aspen]

[timber bough]

Who played too much BF4 here?

[ancient aspen]

pfff bc2 with 870 on slugs

[ancient aspen]