I think killing an enemy after hitting them in the head should count as a headshot.

[cunning orbit]

From what I can tell, hitting an enemy in the head before finishing them with a couple shots to the body does not count as a headshot, but the inverse—hitting them in the body a couple times before finishing them off with a headshot—does count. I find this frustrating.

I'm sure I'm not the only one bothered by this when trying to do a headshot-focused daily mission; I often get a nicely aimed headshot on an enemy, but they survive it before my follow-up shots finish them off. Why shouldn't this count as a headshot like when the hits land in reverse order? Due to recoil, I think the success of the first shots in a sequence are determined more by skill than the latter ones. You get rewarded when spraying down an enemy, getting lucky, and having the killing blow hit the head, but you're left left disappointed when you carefully line up a headshot, only for them to die to a subsequent errant body shot.

[umbral talon]

The killer bullet hits in the body, not the head.
I guess it could be some confusing the task 'get headshot' instead 'get headshot kill'

[cunning orbit]

Yeah, that would clarify the objective of the mission, but from a game design standpoint, I think the accomplishment of getting a nicely aimed headshot should at least be acknowledged like the far lesser accomplishment of spraying down an enemy and getting lucky by finishing them with a headshot gets acknowledged. Y'know?

@buoyant cloak I now realize that my original post could be misinterpreted as saying hitting an enemy in the body after getting a headshot on them should also do headshot damage. Since you reacted with a '?' emoji, I'd like to to assure you this is not what I meant.

[umbral talon]

You could use VSS or even better the HK417 or M39 if you want to headshot easily.

[cunning orbit]

That doesn't solve the problem with most weapons.

[olive coyote]

just aim at the head

[twin storm]

that doesn't work. trust me the amount of times I've hit the head and it doesn't count is crazy

[olive coyote]

haha yea. u just had that in your stream earlier

[wispy plover]

Skill issue

[twin storm]

f88k you too ❤️

[cunning orbit]

@twin storm @buoyant cloak So, do you guys have any comment on the suggestion?

[buoyant cloak]

netcode issue, aim at head

[twin storm]

Head = Body

With the netcode at least

[cunning orbit]

Are you saying the issue I described is a netcode issue? It isn't.

[buoyant cloak]

Headshot kill = kill em with a headshot

everything else makes no sens

[cunning orbit]

Thinkj about it from a game design perspective. Right now, [bodyshot], [bodyshot], then [headshot] is rewarded, but [headshot], [bodyshot], then [bodyshot] is not. Why? The latter is often more difficult to pull off and is less often done by accident, yet it is left unrewarded unlike the former.

[buoyant cloak]

Makes no sens

[cunning orbit]

Please elaborate.

While they're thinking about it, @grizzled barn, what is your question?

[buoyant cloak]

Like i said before Heashot kill = killed by a headshot, anything else makes no sens

[cunning orbit]

Again, think about it as if you're a game designer. What is the purpose of counting a player's headshot kills? To highlight skillful kills, yes?

[buoyant cloak]

Your rewarded for doing headshots
Everything else is pointless

[cunning orbit]

Exactly—to reward headshots! So don't you think a kill that someone hit a headshot along with some bodyshots to get should be counted as a headshot kill, no matter when the headshot landed in the sequence of hits?

[buoyant cloak]

Imagine some1 would ask for a setting that would enable getting sniper kills but using a pistol after a hitmark

[cunning orbit]

You raise a good point; when I think about it, it doesn't really make sense for each kill to simply count toward the kill count of the weapon that made the final hit. In think upon getting a kill in a perfect world, each of your weapons that contributed toward the kill would be allocated points proportional to the damage they were used to deal to the target. This score could then be rounded to the nearest whole to get the weapon's sort of "effective kill count". That way, dealing 90 damage to an enemy with a SR and finishing them off with a pistol would count as 0.9 kills for the SR and 0.1 for the pistol. Otherwise, the SR would get no kill and the pistol would get one, despite the SR doing the heavy lifting.

To summarize, judging an entire kill only by the final hit is just not ideal. So, a headshot a player performs in bringing down an enemy's health shouldn't be ignored just because the final hit wasn't also a headshot.

[buoyant cloak]

Please stop making suggestions

[cunning orbit]

Why?

[cunning orbit]

@foggy coyote What's your question?

[cunning orbit]

@grizzled barn I noticed your reaction; what's your question?

[grizzled barn]

why are you so stupid

[cunning orbit]

You're gonna have to be more specific.

[buoyant cloak]

Purple part is stupid, yellow part is normal and it should stay like that

@cunning orbit Only because you ran the race your still not qualified for a medal, and no i am not thinking that...

[cunning orbit]

Just to make sure—you don't think I'm suggesting shots to the body do the same damage as headshots, do you?

[buoyant cloak]

You are stupid

[cunning orbit]

Losing the race but expecting a medal would be analogous to trying to hit a headshot, failing, and expecting it to count as a headshot anyway. That's not what I'm suggesting.
I'm saying that headshots shouldn't be ignored just because the final hit wasn't a headshot. Which do you think takes more skill: aiming carefully for a headshot and hitting it on the first try, or spraying down an enemy and having one stray bullet hit the head?

[buoyant cloak]

I am done... your officially the stupidest person i have encountered in this game.

[cunning orbit]

@obsidian chasm What's your question?

[graceful orbit]

Wait you found the Dr Winsky skin??

[cunning orbit]

I don't understand. Could you rephrase?

[graceful orbit]

I’ve been looking for the Dr Winsky skin for ages and you found him. You tagged him in one of your comments.

[cunning orbit]

I must be missing the joke, but that's fine.

[obsidian chasm]

Headshot isn't guaranteed kill, depends on what's impacting the head and what type of protection that keeps it from being deformed by a hot lead.
You likely still can see another day if you wear III A type ballistic helmet and got hit by 9mm or 22lr, but i doubt it if you took .338 Lapua or .50 BMG on your head so no.

Headshot is not a guaranteed 1 hit kill. Only for certain weapon and setups.
Also your point is very weird, that's it

[cunning orbit]

I know all that; how is any of that relevant?

[cunning orbit]

Could you explain why you find it weird? I think it's quite straightforward how it doesn't make sense for the order of hits you make when killing an enemy to determine whether or not your headshot is counted. If you'd prefer, we could join a voice channel if you need a thorough explanation.

@fading mango What's your question?

[obsidian chasm]

And i guess everybody here had answered your question.
Feel free tagging someone else, thank you.
Have a nice day