Upgrades for Bio in PVP servers

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Make the bio glow decloak SS
Bios have no use on PVP servers currently, a bit of minor tracking help, but I think they should be able to do more.
I think if its on a PVP server it should be able to do something, otherwise it is just a waste.
Plus with the major buff that SS got, something that actively counters them would be awesome.

[stable rose]

bios aren't supposed to be useful. they're entirely cosmetic dragons with no other purpose than to be pretty and make other people glow. consider it a waste if you will, but that is what people bought it for, as it was never meant to be a real additive to base gameplay.

[clear badge]

but what is the problem with making them more useful?

[tribal fox]

Because it's a Kickstarter exclusive dragon. Even though you can get nested as them most people can't 'unlock' them. Hence them being cosmetic. The same will happen with the Patreons Mimikor

[heavy junco]

I still think the bio should be given more use. What's the point of playing the animal if you can't play much of a game with it. "Looking pretty" isn't gameplay to me. Merely an addition to improve gameplay

[tribal fox]

Plenty of people still enjoy playing it, particularly in PvE

[jaunty root]

To put it more direct as to why it is useless, the problem is that the moment it -is- useful, the constant whining and complaints about not being able to get it easy peasy to fill that strategic niche will flare up even more than it already does even when it is only cosmetic.

It is effectively making something exclusive to only a comparatively few people (in that they can always have it) a necessity and those people will face endless spam and downright harassment to be constantly available to nest, which reduces the overall number further.

So heavy No from me.

[stable rose]

on top of that, it would have more fingers being pointed at this already very unreputable game for being "pay to win" if this supposed-to-be useless dragon that is unobtainable outside legitimate means suddenly had an appeal to core gameplay in pvp. the devs like to flaunt bio as a playable dragon, but again, it has no inherent purpose other than to be a celebratory cosmetic. as gamarasa elaborates, it's better that way for all parties involved.

[clear badge]

we arent talking about pve.

[polar rover]

To counter an SS, the fs has it's special ability of seeing heat, it simply would be unfair imo to make the bio more useful as the majority of people cannot obtain it, especially if you play solo in PvP.

It is already able to make people glow and due to that easier to track if they aren't able to wash it off imminently + the fastest dragon and can follow people with that, I personally would say it's already strong enough for a dragon that isn't obtainable anymore and probably won't ever be obtainable again

[torn hawk]

The Bio dragon is not designed to fight or have any use ingame, it's so to say a "cosmetic dragon" purely for its looks and RP purposes.

[clear badge]

FS heat sense is useless in an air fight, or tracking SS through trees. Have you ever played Pvp? lol

[clear badge]

thats unfortunate, super wasteful especially for a game that is in dire need of content

[light lance]

once more dragons are in the game the BIO and Mimikor being cosmetic will be fine.
its just not good at the moment because of the small roster and lack of content.
ive found Bio's are used as speedy scouts into enemy territory on PVP servers.
because of their fast growth and fast speed in air and on ground- some people will waste a bio just to scout out an area.

[polar rover]

Yes and I never had an issue seeing a moving SS lmao, the coverage isn't that good, I personally also got shot the second I moved with an SS so I doubt that others have an issue seeing moving ss lol, yes they get away easier, but it's not like they are completely invisible, especially close to the ground imo

[gloomy rampart]

Bios arent meant do anything but spit on dragons. They are cosmetic.

[steep condor]

What ever happened to the topic with nearly 300 likes that wanted the bio to be useful?

[hard gyro]

IT got locked for not being constructive enough with the replies...
And what most PvP players tend to forget is that the bio being useless doesn't stop others from attacking IT and involving IT in PvP no matter what, most of the bios just want that, be pretty, glow up some friends and chill, but they can't because Other players find IT funny to hunt the defenseless midget...which results ín the bios dieing out because it's not a fun gameplay loop for anyone, not even for those who like to play prey Animals.
So I think the bio DO needs a balance, the ability to decloak SS was even written ín the lore, so I don't see why IT shouldn't happen...bio bile is short range, maybe make IT so the bio have to empty all it's bile on the SS to decloak IT? if a cloaked SS lets a bio so close IT can spit on IT, that SS deserves to be revealed

[heavy junco]

I think "cosmetic" dragons for a PVP survival game is bad practice to begin with. Why put resources into creating something that can't provide good gameplay. I don't think it needs another special ability. I just think it should be able to do small basic attacks like claws and a bite so at least it can be a fun troll dragon. "Looking pretty" isn't gameplay

[upper kettle]

I'm surprised more people haven't thought of utilizing the bio as a recon. It's super-fast and can highlight people. Just spit on someone and help keep track of where they are, and your clan can do the rest.

[jaunty root]

It's the only real use for the little ones in actual PvP and it still comes at the downside of missing a potentially vital actual fighter in case of a bigger fight

[upper kettle]

Sure, but the concern is Bio not having any "use". If your objective is to purely hunt and fight, then you shouldn't be choosing a smaller/weaker species in the first place. My argument is that despite Bio being designated as a "cosmetic" dragon doesn't mean you can't be creative with it. Plus, it doesn't have to be set in stone, the devs could expand its mechanics in the future if they see fit.

[drowsy moss]

Because as soon as you give it more uses in pvp than it is currently, clans will now for sure continue to hunt it and not only that but they will also for 100% lock it to clans only (if it's not already more clan only enough lol, some people do nest it in on pvp). Since it's a cosmetic it won't be often (unless the bio ai is just everywhere) and unlikely that most people will get a nest anyways.
Also people chose to hang out with their friends on PvP, expect ALL playable dragons to die, expect to be killed. Bio is already used for clan scouting or making something glow and it's the fastest dragon in game atm.
A bio will catch up to an ss in no time and the only way to stop a bio from decloaking an ss is if the ss has a fs buddy near, can fly through trees, or the bio ID dumb.

If the bio got changed to decloak a good chunk of SS will be dead within minutes of a fight.

For what I've seen in fights people will go for actual damaging or any form of debuff / most negative effecting dragons. They will ignore bio unless they can spare the time or it's convenient just because bio is so fast and tiny.

[steep condor]

they hunt bio regardless... instead of not giving it nothing just make it decloak things.. whocares pvp people kill it regardless what you do..