#Hybrid Dragon Quest

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plush comet
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I saw the quest you need to complete in order to unlock the Hybrid Dragon and it is way too hard. And on top of that you only get one chance to live as it until you have to do the quest again. This is a really good game and it is hard to stop playing it and go to another dragon. I find it incredibly unfair that a game with such good graphic and everything have a single dragon with four wings and for it to be almost impossible to play as, where as the backers don't have to do anything. As for my opinion, I think in order to get the Hybrid Dragon, you would have to have all dragons be elder at the same time. You do not have to have the dragons that require a quest to unlock them at elder, just the free dragons and the DLC's need to be an elder. Then you don't only complete for one lifetime but you have it permanently. I've been searching on google for a long time for a dragon game that includes a four - winged dragon only to find that it is not out yet and will be incredibly hard to get, so, please consider my suggestion. Thank you for reading this far!

civic fox
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What kind of quest do you refer to? Last time I heard it'll be a treasure hunt, not a quest
And altho I agree with your idea on making the hybrid unlock a personal quest instead of a "go out and be lucky" find, I don't think tieing it to eldering would solve the problem, since we already see that eldering is gatekeeped by big clans , so unless they rewamp the eldering into a line of quests or conditions needed to fulfill what can't be affected by others, hybrids would be the privilege of big clans
Or at least remove the dlc dragons from the requirements list ...the unlocks have more place to be in the requirements than something you have to pay extra money for

grand sedge
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It is important to note that Kickstarters will also have a cool down if their hybrid gets killed before they can spawn as a new one. The Devs want to keep the Hybrid a rare dragon to see, and while I completely understand the want to have everything on demand it also cheapens the experience if there are not some challenges to get what you want.

civic fox
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And there will be other hybrids later on what will be locked even for Kickstarters and patreons, so any kind of access to one of them won't be so detrimental

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Altho I personally wouldn't mind a permanent unlock method for others as well, but just eldering (in the current system) is too easy AND too hard at the same time, because
-you can just login every 12 hours for a free tick and have everything eldered within what, 1,5 month without any input or risk from you
-big clans are guarding eldering spots so only their own can access them which would set back small clans not only In eldering but in aquiring the only dragon what might be able to pick up the glove with elders without being one

civic lintel
# grand sedge It is important to note that Kickstarters will also have a cool down if their hy...

I think part of their point is that the kickstarters can seemingly play the hybrid whenever, and there are a lot of kickstarters, so the hybrid will probably end up being more common than the devs would want, if the kickstarters can just spawn as it whenever. Plus, how long are we thinking for a cooldown? 1 hour? 12 hours? 2 days? Even then, the kickstarter players would be able to have a new hybrid dragon every day or every other day, which isn't that long to wait.

civic fox
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i would prefer a week long cooldown tbh, a week should be the longest time anyone should need to find an egg for themselves as well

grand sedge
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The truth is we won't know until it comes to the game. There are a lot of concerns about how it will work out, cool downs and how its stats will increase (which the none kickstarter eggs will have a head start on) so its very understandable that people are worried they might struggle to play the dragon. Thankfully rarities, spawn timers and things like that are a fairly easy thing to adjust as balance tweaked.

plush comet
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Lusewing I watch all your vids, I simply just wanted to say that I am honored to have you comment on my suggestion lol.

grand sedge
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Aww thank you, I'm just another player the same as everyone else here

vast temple
jolly grove
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I like the current version of Hybrid Dragon being rare hard to find and strong, u think it is a really cool concept. BUT the strongest flying dragon should not be only for kickstarters or people that are lucky, it will hurt overall game play since clans with kickstarters will priority grow them and rule the ser pretty easily with just two of them.

Just unlock the dragon after you find the egg once and make its timer doubled for none kickstarters, yes thus would make it less rare but it would also make it so clans cannot just be the only ones with it because people would have it unlocked and not take the egg anymore.

civic fox
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if i remember correctly it was talked about that ks spawned hybrids will have lower base stats than wild hatched ones
Eg (not confirmed) spawned hybrids will have the usualy Egrade stats while hatched ones will start with D or C

vast temple
civic fox
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me too, but it was indeed aknowledged that the ability of ks to spawn in a hybrid anytime is pretty op even with the cooldown

vast temple
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Cause to be honest living creatures can level up by hitting the gym and eating things that don't poison them.,.

civic fox
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yeah same

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because if spawned in hybrids will always stay weaker than hatched ones, that will just urge kickstarters to hunt for the eggs as well, increasing the already big competition for them even more

grand sedge
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I believe what was said was that the spawned hybrids would not have the benefit of being incubated by the Brood watcher, thus would have lower stats. Though it would only be two stats lower.

civic fox
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I just hope that even if spawned hypbrids start out lower they'll have the option to grind out the same max stats As hatched ones, just with a bit more work

jolly grove
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If the spawned Hybrid (strongest flying dragon in the game) has same stats and is mostly unavailable to none kickstarters the clans with kickstarters will rule without dispute the server and no one outside of a large clan will get to play the hybrid on PVP. Kickstarters should have more than the average player because without them we would not have DOD, I am 100% for that.

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But it is really bad game practice to give any players something stronger that cannot be accessed by another player. It will make people not want to play and add an insane unfair advantage to other players within the PVP community. If this was strictly a PVE game there would be no problem, but within PVP you need to make sure everyone has an even playing field or at least very close to even, if you don't than people will stop playing very quickly.

civic fox
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even KS will have a cooldown on how often they can spawn in as a hybrid, we don't know much and how it will function yet, but i kinda hope the cooldown would start upon the death of the ks hybrid, so people can't just keep it alive long enough until the cooldown ends and then instantly spawn back when it dies
and i do agree that one group of players shouldn't have access to something what's op and the rest of the players can't have it
but on the other hand, you shouldn't punish a group of players for having a special perk either, and by permanently making the KS spawn hybrid worse it is making that perk useless, that's why i think having the ks spawn hybrid start out with lower stats but the potential to max them out would be a good option to compensate, it would take longer for a ks to get highest stats, since they start out lower, but it's not a permanent handicap either

grand sedge
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It's great to have these concerns however since we don't even know how strong the Hybrid will be compared to other dragons (other than 'stronger') we can only speculate on hybrid Vs hybrid.

A two stat boost from the nurse (added on to whatever random stats each hybrid will naturally get regardless of if it's spawn or found) will not make a big difference. Particularly when you also add on the seven mutation points, pearl bonuses and overall skill of the player behind the dragon.

civic fox
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we all know how fixated people can get over max stats, it will matter to them even if it doesn't give advantages haha

grand sedge
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Which honestly is why I think it's okay for the Nurse to give two extra stats to found eggs when we know, no matter how long the cooldown will be, there will be Kickstarters who will respawn kill until they get starting stats they are happy with.

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It's unlikely the Hybrid will ever have full or even stats, it won't have a cap to reach, and that's a good thing really. There are a lot of people who want a dragon they don't have to worry about breeding down for stats. A dragon they can get without needing a complicated clan setup to breed down stats.

Honestly having a system where players could eventually grind up to, say full A stats, could be detrimental since it would add onto all of the other bonuses longer lived dragons already get and it would make the first wave of Hybrids the strongest.

At least with bred stats new players can get a leg up with off casts or just helpful clans.
A time consuming stat progression system for the Hybrid however (on top of the mutation system) would just mean everyone starting on a new hybrid would be at a severe disadvantage.

civic fox
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IT was already said that the hybrid Will have it's own method of increasing their stats ín place of nesting, so I just hope it's a repeatable thing, or Will have enough steps to max IT out even without the nurse
And isn't that how every dragon is? The older the dragon the more powerful they are (eldering) putting New players ín a "disadvantage", without a well established clan nesting for high stats also takes a lot of Time putting New players ín disadvantage, it's not a New "problem" created by the hybrid

grand sedge
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Again just looking at different issues and advantages for methods being both discussed and already planned. That's why I said it could be an issue.

And yes, that is how every dragon works with eldering and mutation gathering. However adding an extra stat system could compound that.