#lore-discussion-spoilers

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rugged jackal
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I don’t think I want to know now...

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0_0

quartz sorrel
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Oh shoot

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;-;

thin dirge
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Manta juicers

rugged jackal
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😓

queen locust
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Possibly butterfly juicers too

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Maybe even birds

thin dirge
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Why do yall think the Mantas in Forest Temple was caged in the first place..?

quartz sorrel
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Is that why mantas want our revenge and kidnap us in praire 😂

deft lintel
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They used magic crystal for some stuff
Probably they using the power of the crystal from Eden until it being broken

thin dirge
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They used small Mantas too

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Baby mantas

quartz sorrel
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noooooo

nocturne zealot
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manta is not caged in the temple??

restive sky
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Oh no I left to learn about lore for a couple minutes and now you’re taking about juicing light creatures

rugged jackal
queen locust
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You know how when you open the gates you also open the windows

nocturne zealot
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the manta fly into the temple when we open the gate

queen locust
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Those were probably cages

thin dirge
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Yes, they are caged in the Temple. They get released after the Forest Elder cutscene, that's why you suddenly see so many Mantas afterwards

quartz sorrel
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Oh makes sense

thin dirge
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All of which are small Mantas, unlike the ones in Prairie

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So I think they're baby Mantas...

deft lintel
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What about the giant animal we see 3 time flying and disappear after it scream like the one from GW during you fly to that location ?

thin dirge
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That's a Whale

queen locust
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I wouldn't call them babey- wasn't there a much babier form of mantas in Sanc

nocturne zealot
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i remember the "cages" are connected to outside, like a window

rugged jackal
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The animal whale fish thing?

nocturne zealot
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lemme check back later

deft lintel
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Yup

thin dirge
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Its a Whale

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The oldest type of light creature

rugged jackal
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I had a conversation about that once

crimson lake
quartz sorrel
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Whale fishahead fishbody fishtail
This one?

queen locust
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Yep

rugged jackal
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Here’s the theory we came up with...

thin dirge
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Well, older than the big Manta that you see in Sanctuary

quartz sorrel
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Yep

queen locust
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Have fun getting yeeted

crimson lake
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Love it

rugged jackal
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So, the first time we can see him was in Pinewood

quartz sorrel
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Pinewood?

queen locust
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What's Pinewood-

rugged jackal
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Then in wasteland hub

lethal stump
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the green area where headpat spirit is found

quartz sorrel
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Whaaaa I'm confused

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Oh okay-

rugged jackal
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And then in the after ||eden||

quartz sorrel
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I call it sunny forest mostly-

deft lintel
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Gellyfish

queen locust
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You don't have to spoiler tag dawg

rugged jackal
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The theory,

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Is that the whale was guiding us

thin dirge
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The Whale is stated to be the most ancient light creature there is, and was going to be wayyyyy bigger than the big manta in Snactuary.
And yes, that big thing yiu saw in the last quest of Sanctuary is a Manta.

rugged jackal
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Or we, as the Sky children are following it

icy basalt
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Elder Manta

rugged jackal
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It’s pretty powerful too,

crimson lake
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That big white whale?

queen locust
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If it was guiding us I kind of find it strange that we wouldn't see it earlier- in any of the main areas, perhaps

deft lintel
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I almost follow him after I die xD

rugged jackal
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As when you touch it in after-eden it takes away some energy

queen locust
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You have to go actively out of your way to see that whale

rugged jackal
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Then when you force the camera to look up,

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You’re following it.

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It’s guiding you.

restive sky
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It’s guiding us!

deft lintel
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Not exactly

thin dirge
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Probably cause its way too big, or its using up light around it to fly around, which is why it drains your light

crimson lake
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I'm a little lost here

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What is guiding who?

thin dirge
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Whale

queen locust
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I'm confused- is this guidance just an Ascencion thing

icy basalt
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I think in fact that whale is following the same path as us ...

thin dirge
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Guiding the skid

queen locust
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Or are you implying it was all throughout

crimson lake
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How??

restive sky
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We’re taking about the whalefishtail fishbody fishahead possibly guiding us through the game

thin dirge
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I think in fact that whale is following the same path as us ...
I think I agree with thsi

deft lintel
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Bird and manta guiding you more than the whale

rugged jackal
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Idk, we don’t know like anything about this whale

queen locust
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Because again- you have to actively go out of your way to see this thing in Forest

thin dirge
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Birds are meant to guide you. They're sent by the Isle Elder afterall.

rugged jackal
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We see it only three times throughout the game...

queen locust
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Yes but we see birds all throughout the game

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This whale is a rare sight

rugged jackal
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The birds are all throughout

deft lintel
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Whale just swim and flying around

rugged jackal
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Yes, exactly

thin dirge
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As I said, Isle Elder sent them to guide you to the Light

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The birds

queen locust
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But we don't see it enough for it to qualify as a good guide now does it- the whale I mean

rugged jackal
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There’s an oob where you can get a really good look at it

restive sky
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If you think about every time you head up to a place where you find the elder there’s creatures of light heading there. So I think that the creatures of light are guiding us in the same direction the whole game

rugged jackal
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Want me to snap a few photos?

crimson lake
thin dirge
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Well, we are the one who triggers the ascent to Orbit after all...

icy basalt
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I don't think there is anyone to "guide" us, the creatures of light follow the same path as us, which is up to orbit, my theory is that the creatures of light are reborn with us

queen locust
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I agree with Tik on that one, but I'm still iffy about that Whale

thin dirge
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That means we're important to the rebirth cycle

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Since we're the ones who trigger the ascension, allowing rebirth and the cycle to happen

rugged jackal
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Ok, I’ll snap some photos 😉

thin dirge
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Kinda like the skid in the mural of Prophecy...

rugged jackal
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Brb

deft lintel
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If I understand, in Eden, we need to save all the child, but after that, what is the mission now ? (I save them all btw so now I can't really get red candles)

crimson lake
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I don't think there is anyone to "guide" us, the creatures of light follow the same path as us, which is up to orbit, my theory is that the creatures of light are reborn with us
@icy basalt when you are in rebirth, before the orbit, you see some light animals

queen locust
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presumably to rinse and repeat

crimson lake
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You mean... ya saved the whole 63 one?!?!> If I understand, in Eden, we need to save all the child, but after that, what is the mission now ? (I save them all btw so now I can't really get red candles)
@deft lintel

icy basalt
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Yes, I think that the creatures of light also have a cycle of rebirth, just like us

queen locust
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You did just die getting to Orbit

restive sky
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I don't think there is anyone to "guide" us, the creatures of light follow the same path as us, which is up to orbit, my theory is that the creatures of light are reborn with us
@icy basalt that makes since since the realms are supposed to represent different times of day and i think the transition through life too

deft lintel
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Yes

crimson lake
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@icy basalt that makes since since the realms are supposed to represent different times of day day and i think the transition through life too
@restive sky The isle is the birth

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The praire is the childhood

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The Forest is the teenage hood

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The Valley is the adulthood

queen locust
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Valley= Young Adulthood
GW= Midlife Crisis
Vault= Old Age
Eden= Death

thin dirge
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Valley is adulthood, Wasteland is mid life crisis, Vault is old age, Eden is death, Orbit is rebirth

crimson lake
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The GW is the middleage

deft lintel
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First place is born

crimson lake
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That’s why is called Vault of Knowledge

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Because of the elders

deft lintel
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We are like a pheonix

thin dirge
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Also, the one who would trigger the ascent to Orbit in the concepts isn't us. It was the Prince

deft lintel
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Yup

restive sky
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So the prince trigger the death and rebirth cycle?

hushed steeple
queen locust
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amio am I dreaming is your pfp not something terrifying

thin dirge
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@restive sky Yeah, in the old concept at least. He pretty much saves us when we die, a scene similar to what happens when we die in Eden

deft lintel
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Lol

rugged jackal
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Hello again

crimson lake
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Who the hell is this Prince that I've never heard about

icy basalt
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And I also believe in the evolution of creatures of light
Something like ... Bird → Manta → Manta with 4 wings → ... → Elder Manta → Whale → Death → Rebirth → Bird...

rugged jackal
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I have completed my quest

thin dirge
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Hmmm.. Maybe

gilded fossil
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/butterflys tehn

rancid phoenix
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GW is middleage cause
midlife crisis = Krill

hushed steeple
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halloween has ended my friendpPopcorn

gilded fossil
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/oh yea someone fetch the lore moff doc

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/it has the prince explaination

deft lintel
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Crab are crab for to be eating

restive sky
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Is the prince represented as the light child we hug in the way to the light?

queen locust
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Credits to Bricky

rugged jackal
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What are you guys theorying about this time?

icy basalt
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Is the prince represented as the light child we hug in the way to the light?
@restive sky I believe so

queen locust
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I dearly wish I had their usual paragraph on me ckdkckdk

deft lintel
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The one we hug it's our light

rugged jackal
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Mmhmm... ok... bue

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Bye

crimson lake
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You guys have too much patience with me I-

hushed steeple
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He's the prince tho👀

queen locust
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In the doc I just sent are compiled info about the Prince and the King- sort of- it's a nice starting point that's what I meant-

crimson lake
deft lintel
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Did we are the prince hiself maybe ?

restive sky
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So the mega bird is the god of the sky kids and is it the light?

icy basalt
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I believe we are almost the same as him, but not quite him
Idk if that made sense

deft lintel
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Lol

queen locust
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Possibly- Megabird could literally just be a vague lump of light

deft lintel
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Hm, probably forget the past

hushed steeple
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All skykids are the prince and prince is the skykidspFIRE

crimson lake
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I was in a Brazilian server and the people here said something about the sky kids

restive sky
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I think we are all part of the light and we are going in the same journey the prince did to trigger the rebirth cycle

deft lintel
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He trigger it by the crystal from eden ?

crimson lake
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I think we are all part of the light and we are going in the same journey the prince did to trigger the rebirth cycle
@restive sky Are you a seer?!?!

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I was in a Brazilian server and the people here said something about the sky kids
@crimson lake They said that we are fragments of the Eden. Something like that

livid valley
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Of the castle or the king or prince

deft lintel
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Prince

queen locust
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Fragments of the Prince, fragments of the King- both of which I've seen come and go XD

deft lintel
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XD

crimson lake
icy basalt
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@crimson lake They said that we are fragments of the Eden. Something like that
@crimson lake I think I said it myself pEyes

queen locust
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The gist of it was that them getting reborn as a skid was a punishment by Megan

crimson lake
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Didn't saw the message

icy basalt
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I am Brazilian and I made this theory on a Brazilian server too

livid valley
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Eh alot of people have the same theory

queen locust
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I mean if you really wanted to be sure you could input it in the Theory Vault or smthn

deft lintel
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Well we are probably trying to save all the kids (probably ourselves) who always trying to fix the crystal from Eden for to stop the Darkness and for the cycle stay normal from the past over and over again

restive sky
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Well we are probably trying to save all the kids (probably ourselves) who always trying to fix the crystal from Eden for to stop the Darkness and for the cycle stay normal from the past over and over again
@deft lintel we’re stuck in a loop

deft lintel
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Yea

queen locust
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Every time travel story I've seen so far is telling me messing with time this much is gonna have a lot of nasty consequences

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Maybe we'll see in a next season idk

crimson lake
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Change the past is not good

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Nasty consequences, as you said

queen locust
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We're not really changing the past so much as we are just unearthing it and salvaging as much as we can

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There's not much left to ruin after all

deft lintel
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I didn't say to change the past
I mean by all the kids was yourself who always trying to fix the crystal from Eden and you try to save them

queen locust
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Call being a skid janitor work, if you will

deft lintel
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I didn't say to change the past
I mean by all the kids was yourself who always trying to fix the crystal from Eden and you try to save them

queen locust
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Cleaning up the messes left behind

deft lintel
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I didn't say to change the past
I mean by all the kids was yourself who always trying to fix the crystal from Eden and you try to save them

restive sky
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So maybe mega bird is punishing us because the people from the past made mistakes and the prince triggered the cycle so we all wouldn’t die

deft lintel
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Ppl of the past make mistake, that's true

queen locust
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Everyone who mattered before then were already dead so somehow I don't think that rebirth is a goal of theirs- but that's just me

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To me it just seemed like they were just picking up the pieces

crimson lake
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So many questions and no answers... my poor head

queen locust
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Letting the spirits pass on and ascend

deft lintel
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Think about the war, the darkness and the story of the beginning
It say they don't listening to me

restive sky
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I think skids were created to fix the world since it was destroyed

sinful anvil
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~~so i just created tvtropes account and have to wait for a bit before being approved to expand sky’s tvtropes page and im like … orbit? a gainax ending?

am i the only one who is not weirded out by the sequence of ascending to space? there are people who think it doesnt make sense?

or is it the lore getting to my head enough that i think it makes sense?~~

queen locust
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ah tvtropes

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Why is your Sky page so empty ckkskxdkkd

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And ye- Gainax ending normally refers to something that's confusing enough to be borderline incomprehensible

sinful anvil
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but is the orbit even incomprehensible?

restive sky
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I love that they leave the lore pretty much open ended for this game cause it lets you interpret it how you want

livid valley
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Indeed

lethal stump
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honestly what with the world that had been set up, it didn’t feel confusing

queen locust
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It's less incomprehensible and moreso that it feels incomplete

livid valley
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Like dying is fixing the world

crimson lake
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I love that they leave the lore pretty much open ended for this game cause it lets you interpret it how you want
@restive sky without being wrong or right

sinful anvil
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it has symbolism and hint about the megabird, it is a place where you purchase your candles

deft lintel
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Ppfft

sinful anvil
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i think thats where it squicked me. the orbit is actually a functional place, which is why im baffled some find it incomprehensible

restive sky
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We’re on this loop because we need to make the world better and fix it from whatever happened in the past and let spirits be free

crimson lake
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I don’t think the orbit is incomprehensible, but the other way around

deft lintel
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After you are a falling star who fall to the planet for to do the same stuff

restive sky
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So the light is the place of death and birth at the same time. You die and get reborn

deft lintel
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Darkness is the place of your end

sinful anvil
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i want to check myself in. is that trope line inaccurate for the orbit? im considering having it removed. if not i’ll add an alternative interpretation

deft lintel
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Mean, Eden

restive sky
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Man sky theories are making me think deep

crimson lake
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Same

queen locust
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Consider how the general public viewed Sky at least- and how familiar they are with the themes of the game? I dunno

sinful anvil
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actually im going to counter it. ive only see arguments between editors in Headscratchers and Fridge Brilliance/Horror/etc, but not YMMV

queen locust
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It's not hard to poke around the official stuff and see that the game had themes after all

crimson lake
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Éden is a funny name for that place, in my opinion

deft lintel
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They changing a little of how is the end of the game now
They would probably add more stuff and change more stuff

queen locust
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I think the vagueness of the game is preventing a lot of the stuff we've discussed here so far from being on that site

sinful anvil
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but the lore doc said nothing there is random

queen locust
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even so I kinda want to see the Fridge Horror section written out

deft lintel
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Btw, why that place could naming Eye of Eden
Probably the prince was naming Eden

restive sky
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Éden is a funny name for that place, in my opinion
@crimson lake if you think about it’s called eye if eden because the light is in the eye of the storm

crimson lake
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if you think about it’s called eye if eden because the light is in the eye of the storm
@restive sky makes sense

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There is light in the Eden

queen locust
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Nothing is random, but I doubt a casual player would be looking too deeply into what every little detail means

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That's what Fridge is for though I guess-

deft lintel
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Red light like the red crystal who drinks your light energy

queen locust
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And Headscratchers

crimson lake
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Still a light

restive sky
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Prophecy lights are the elements that made the world and the enchantment lights are each representing an area of sky in my opinion

pastel brookBOT
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I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?

restive sky
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I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?
@pastel brook what will be fine sky bot?

crimson lake
deft lintel
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I'm wondering if one day we could get more than 1 ending, like 1 ending when we reborn and another one when we get enough close of the crystal for to do something and see how the ending would be like (it will change some stuff lol)

queen locust
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@crimson lake if you think about it’s called eye if eden because the light is in the eye of the storm
@restive sky Oh not to mention Eden as a place is Storm in dev stuff- like how Forest is Rain and Valley is Sunset

deft lintel
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Daylight prairies it's sunny like the middle of the day

crimson lake
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I was about to say that

deft lintel
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And the first location it's like morning

gilded fossil
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/yes in concepts

crimson lake
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So> And the first location it's like morning
@deft lintel Dawn

gilded fossil
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/the realms represents the stages of life, along side the times of day

crimson lake
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/the realms represents the stages of life, along side the times of day
@gilded fossil yep

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That’s why Valley is my favorite pAww

deft lintel
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The vault is probably night because of how the place is galactic with all the stars

restive sky
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There’s a lot of symbolism in the games design

gilded fossil
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/oh yea friend, what's your name i only see question marks for your name

restive sky
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Me?

queen locust
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Isle- Birth, Dawn
Prairie- Childhood, Day
Forest- Teenagehood, Rain
Valley- Young Adulthood, Sunset
GW- Midlife Crisis, Dusk
Vault- Old Age, Night
Eden- Death, Storm

restive sky
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I feel like the mood of each place matches how you feel during the different stages of life

deft lintel
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True

gilded fossil
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/this friend, sorry for the ping btw
@crimson lake

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/yes, also, forest is an angsty teen

crimson lake
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/this friend, sorry for the ping btw
@crimson lake
@gilded fossil Omg why I have the feeling that I did something wrong

deft lintel
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I see a name

queen locust
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Relax it's probably the font of your username

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It doesn't register on some devices

crimson lake
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Oh

deft lintel
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Mine works

restive sky
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@gilded fossil Omg why I have the feeling that I did something wrong
@crimson lake they can’t see your username

crimson lake
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@gilded fossil Nayra or Nay

deft lintel
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𝐍𝐚𝐲𝐫𝐚 𝐒𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐫 { 𝐎𝐥𝐝 𝐌𝐨𝐭𝐡 } ✵
Here now you can see how it's her name guys ?

rapid juniper
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Wait i see her name tho

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I cans ee her namr

queen locust
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Not everyone can

rapid juniper
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What happend

queen locust
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Why do you think Bricky reminds Kokichi not to use a certain font sometimes-

restive sky
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Okay it’s about 11:00 at night for me so I’m gonna go to sleep. Bye!SkyWave

gilded fossil
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/yea thanks, anyways, what you think about how the lights are used in prophecy

queen locust
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Night Tik

gilded fossil
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/like the element lights

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/we see them being used, but not the specifics

lethal stump
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some devices and screen readers can’t read special fonts, it’s encouraged to use regular fonts in your nickname/messages so it’s accessible to everyone pSkyHeart

deft lintel
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The 4 spirit are prophet for 1 elements

pastel brookBOT
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The mods have to know something about this...but I'm too scared of them to ask

deft lintel
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It's ok

rapid juniper
crimson lake
queen locust
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I've always just interpreted they did what the Enchantment lights did- but if those Enchantment orbs were on steroids-

crimson lake
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Now you can see @gilded fossil

deft lintel
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Just wait about new season and more and we will see if the end or story will change

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Btw, song or soundtrack can give you a teaser too

rapid juniper
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@deft lintel thats my line

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I mean i always rely on new season XD

deft lintel
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Xd

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If you can heard some soundtrack in some location, some of them are the same but don't sound with the same instrument

queen locust
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i kind if wonder if Prairie Elder using that element was anything like the way Elsa made that castle in the first Frozen movie

deft lintel
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XD

queen locust
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just- summoning buildings and belting out some song about letting go-

deft lintel
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Not a song, more of bell
This place are great for to creat bell

queen locust
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god I kind of want to draw that

rapid juniper
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The link to concept arts is buried in the sea of commentspFIRE

lethal stump
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it’s in the pins, @rapid juniper

rapid juniper
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Not all of them in there tho but it still helpsSkyGiveLight

lean fox
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Thinking about how a concept mask for the forest elder is here

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Makes me sad thinking how much was lost for the sake of simplicity and modeling and animating

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The elder designs where 😳

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They still art but before they where woah

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Also I am having a think
Bc I am trying to think how moth society would be set as what are thier behaviors and I am kinda picking around and descarding game mechanic things that are for the purpose of telling the story of the bird civilization and customizing appearance based on the memories you experience

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So like

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I am thinking

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A lot

willow shoal
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teth’s scary mask

livid valley
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hm why is the old concept on this door

willow shoal
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What??

lean fox
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An Easter egg of sorts I think

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For us to get excited by

sly kestrel
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Scary? Nah I loved that old concept of her

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Where she was a lil more dark and....unfriendly

lean fox
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But it does make me think if I can incorporate that into the history of the birds

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Since there are many emblems

willow shoal
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Teth grabs skykids’ flame to make diamond

sly kestrel
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How does the history of birds connect to the old concepts of the elders on the door

lean fox
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This can represent this temple being much older than most

sly kestrel
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In my opinion it’s jus a lil Easter egg

lean fox
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Wich have diamonds

sly kestrel
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Well it produced diamonds but yes

lean fox
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Nothing

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Just my thinking a lot

sly kestrel
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Big brain

lean fox
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I think it'd be cool if it where more than just an Easter egg

sly kestrel
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the old praire mask is on the temple too

lean fox
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So even if it starts that way

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I can make it to something more

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REALLY????

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God now I have to look

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So excited

sly kestrel
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Here’s my basic head canon if I did wanna make it into lore
It’s the masks of who they looked like when the temple was built

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And now they look different in the present

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But in reality, yes it’s jus a lil Easter egg which I thought was kinda cool
Some of their old concepts are in the game too

willow shoal
sly kestrel
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Like the old moss tech, and the old concept of bird statues and old symbols

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Nice lil thing they did

lean fox
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Yeah :0

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That's some cool headcanons

willow shoal
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Now we can see the bird statues in murals or sanc
but i don’t think bricky will allow me to send thatpWow

lean fox
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I headcanon the elders as masses of spirits that played those respective roles
It's hard to explain
But like
They are like symbols representimg a mass of people
Some representing more spirits than others

sly kestrel
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u need brick’s permission to send pics?

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That’s new SkyCozy

willow shoal
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nope

sly kestrel
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yes it is, I never saw anyone have that theory

willow shoal
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he said some of the pics are datamined

sly kestrel
#

oh

willow shoal
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and it shouldn’t appear here

sly kestrel
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Yeah don’t send it

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It rlly shouldn’t

willow shoal
sly kestrel
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Whether it’s bricky or someone else telling u, it doesn’t matter
they aren’t allowed

willow shoal
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i know that

sly kestrel
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hehehe I kinda like ur username
Tastelessgelatin

lean fox
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Like vault are the knowledge keepers
They are the scribes the poet's and spiritual leaders
And isle are the elders and guides
Like spirits get represented by these symbols depending what key role they played in society
Like how in our society we have healers educators etc

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It's funky

sly kestrel
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Funk

icy spruce
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._.

sly kestrel
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Hello there prophet of no sneep

icy spruce
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hi

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What'd I miss?

livid valley
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i miss quite some stuff too

icy spruce
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me too

sly kestrel
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We all missed a lot

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But it’s ok
Jus make some more

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Lore talk shall last forever 😈

livid valley
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Lore talk shall last forever 😈
sqwarlockDed u sure it will last forever

lean fox
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I can't stick to one headcanon for the elders tho
I like thinking of them as individuals but also as conglomerates
But i do have many thoughts for either of these
I dont stick strictly to these headcanons
So limiting
I like to think a lot
But mangled valley elder’s arm
I think about that a lot
More clearly visible in the vault elder room oob
Tbese are the things that make me go
U are both indeviduals and conglomerates

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Brain chugs one hundred miles an hr with this stuff
Even if it may not make an ounce of sence to people who view my rambles

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It just makes sence to me kdhdjjdnsk

sly kestrel
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Technically yes, there is a good chance it will last forever bc tgc didn’t make 1 concrete canon story, it’s all up to us to make and create the details of the story and everyone’s view and interpretation is different and there are some rlly creative ones out there.> sqwarlockDed u sure it will last forever
@livid valley Technically yes, there is a good chance it will last forever bc tgc didn’t make 1 concrete canon story, it’s all up to us to make and create the details of the story and everyone’s view and interpretation is different and there are some rlly creative ones out there. Overall, as long as tgc doesn’t make a confirmed canon story, there will be no end in lore talk

icy spruce
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I-

sly kestrel
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Idk why it saws I typed it twice

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I can’t edit it out

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But oh well

livid valley
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nice

sly kestrel
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Ikr

lean fox
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And even if sky lore may contradict ur interpretations of previous given lore u can twist them in some more since its all up to interpretation

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Its very cool that way

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Leads to interesting discussion

sly kestrel
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If u want a single concrete story, play journey
Lore is pretty straightforward there

lean fox
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And many people can just add to ur thoughts and u can just chew on it like gum

sly kestrel
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Chomp chomp

lean fox
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The gum chompers of the sky community

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Nice place weve got here

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Gonna make myself cozy in this place

icy spruce
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I-

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Imma just go lurk now

sly kestrel
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U have been saying “I-“ lately
Why don’t u join the conversation pWow

livid valley
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nice

icy spruce
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I do, sometimes

lean fox
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Also another info dump
I think when we do the trials we are reliving thier memories
There may not be a spirit to collect and learn an emote but still
And what makes it cool is everyones prince is different depending on how they feel about the trials and how they did them
So u can mold the prince around ur reactions
I have bee fleshing out the prince and i want to write poetry about sky lore
I need to
So many ideas

icy spruce
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I-

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ok-

sly kestrel
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finish ur sentence...

lean fox
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please it makes me nervous
I am sorry

sly kestrel
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Also, I had theories about him being the prince too, I rlly couldn’t have any other explanations.

lean fox
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Maybe given the title of prince while not being offspring of the king

pastel brookBOT
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how many prophecies would a prophet prophesize if a prophet could prophesize prophecies?

sly kestrel
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3

icy spruce
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Oh sorry

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I'm kinda confused on what're we talking about-

lean fox
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I was adding to
It doesn’t make me cringe juat makes me worry

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Oh

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U can always ask for clarification :0

sly kestrel
lean fox
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I am always happy to share my thoughts in more depth

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I just need to be prompted on what needs clearing up

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My thoughts and words can be jumbling and i do apologize for that

sly kestrel
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The king and prince are a difficult concept to talk about
There were concepts of them being 2 separate ppl and concepts of them being the same person
Who knows, that person in the mural could be the king, it could be the prince of it could be the prince before he became king and got corrupted

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All I know is that some of my old theories are all coming true

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That mural was jus..... 🔥

lean fox
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Oo oo

sly kestrel
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Rlly showed his influence on the world like I thought

lean fox
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Tell me these theories

queen locust
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Idk if that pun was intentional or not-

lean fox
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I like thinking of them as the same or the king purposefully picks a child to be the prince so they are easier to manipulate
Wether for malicious egotistical or self righteous means

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See i think this bc this symbol isn’t visible by the temple

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It lacks the ring

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I also use this as an opportunity to think about my critiques on “the chosen one” trope that has children being placed in this role rather than adults and the fact they are placed nad not choose to take on said role personally
Usually coerced

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I also want to see how i can fit specifically Jewish kabbalist aspects into this
I have already thought how sky fits with the concept of tikun olam like a glove
But i do want to think into tjis a bit more

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A bit is an understatement

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I will be thinking A LOT more

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tips my hat

rapid juniper
lean fox
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I think that’s enough info dumping for one night

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Ooo
What about i have said makes u pog :0
Very interested

icy spruce
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yes

rapid juniper
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Yes

lean fox
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Lol
Night yall

rapid juniper
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Night

queen locust
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Night Gelatin

lean fox
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Twirls into non existence

willow shoal
icy spruce
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._.

desert sun
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hey lore chat, why do you think skykids have to power to harness winged light? if our primary goal was to "bring our lost stars home" (which is presumably the elders) then why were we given the ability to use the winged light in the first place?

torn siren
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Uh

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Were in a place of clouds

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And we are above the sky

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Idk

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But actually I think flying makes the task easier so the one who-

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Wait a second who was talking at the intro

spring blaze
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we dont know

torn siren
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**When you start sky for the first time a story plays with a narrator and who is the narrator??? **

glad vapor
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maybe losts stars refer to the winged lights, like they could be the spirits of those statues in eden, and you give them their soul back so they can go back home to orbit or smth

spring blaze
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we kinda just theorized that its the megabird

torn siren
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Mega birb

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Im starting to think the elder of eden was the one who narrated the task for us

queen locust
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Speaking of the task, the intro only spoke of the lost stars- which referred to the Elders

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Do the Fallen in Eden count for this task? Was Ascending necessary to the quest they gave us?

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am I just losing brain cells

thin dirge
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I thought it may have only been referring to us, not the Fallen. The wording of the narrator implies that we're awoken as a last resort after the Fallen... erm, fallen??

queen locust
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Fell-

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idk should we just say aliven't

thin dirge
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CN translation says "My child", which makes me think its the Light

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Cause... y'know, we're Children of the Light

queen locust
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I kind of just wanted to know if it was necessary for us to go to Eden for the task

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or was that their way of telling us to go home

thin dirge
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Maybe the lost stars being the ancestors were my interpretation

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Or continue the rebirth cycle or something?

queen locust
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Were they also slated for Ascencion- and the only way we can do that if if we'd died and are reborn so we can ensure that no one was truly left behind?

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Heck- what does Ascencion mean for the spirits

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They get in our cloak and make us stronger? But for what?

thin dirge
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Woah, I just noticed something

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About Sanctuary

queen locust
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Sanc lore?

thin dirge
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When recieving the bells, we actually use our light when we honk to conjure up some hologram of some sort of the original bell when then converts it to purple light, the same one in Enchantment!

queen locust
#

So purple really could have been something to do with architecture after all?

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It's an old bell- a ruin

spring blaze
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ive always said that the bell structure in sanctuary looks like the megabird

queen locust
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Does it? It always just looked like a weird looking structure

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that vaguely made sense if taken into consideration what each one summoned

thin dirge
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The purple light is used to make the bells reappear the exact same way as the shops appeared in Enchantment after the purple light was used

spring blaze
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for me it does haha

thin dirge
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Ohhhh

spring blaze
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for some reason the structure looks like megan haha

queen locust
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i might be going blind i don't see the resemblance-

thin dirge
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Its an old concept tho. Maybe they based it off of this concept?

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Sort of looks different yet similar

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Different enough to make it seem like a coincidence tho

spring blaze
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yeah

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idk HAHAHA

thin dirge
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But with the lights

queen locust
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Oh yeah Butters- if those lights really were the same from Enchantment then that would mean they were widespread and mass produced

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i think-

thin dirge
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If purple light was used in Sanctuary, the other four lights had a major role in Prophecy, will we see the red light make an appearance?

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Though, it'll be for something like murals, and we just had something like that from Prophecy

shy otter
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Can sky kids die?

thin dirge
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Oh yeah Butters- if those lights really were the same from Enchantment then that would mean they were widespread and mass produced
Yeah, thats what I thought too-
Maybe that's how the mural in Forest came from. It's also golden just like the murals that appearned in Enchantment from the red light!

queen locust
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Yep

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We explicitly die in Eden

shy otter
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I didn't play eden yet

thin dirge
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...

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I had a feeling

queen locust
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Oh man oof

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Are you new here by any chance?

thin dirge
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Its not death

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You dont really die in Eden, haha...

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Well, if you think about it, its not death tbh

shy otter
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Very new

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Like three days new

queen locust
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Why wouldn't it be death when that was literally the point of the area-

thin dirge
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Okay, this chat has a lot of major spoilers you haven't seen yet, soo...

queen locust
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Best finish Eden first dude

shy otter
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I'm at valley of triumph still

queen locust
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And then poke around the pins to get a feel for the stuff we discuss here

thin dirge
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Yeah, this chat has spoilers

queen locust
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We're still really glad to have you though

shy otter
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I mean I see that we kinda die in the trials

queen locust
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Just wouldn't want you confused

shy otter
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But I don't know if that's considered death or not

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Basically the light fades and you become grey and restart from checkpoint

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So maybe?

queen locust
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I don't think it's considered death? You have an entire cutscene for death- meeting glowy boi and stuff when you die

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At least that's what I think

shy otter
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Can water kill sky kids

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Like not in gameplay but as a lore

queen locust
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probably? If we're made of anything that can corrode-

spring blaze
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technically no

queen locust
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oof gotta eat brb

thin dirge
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We made of rocc

queen locust
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Take over, finish the game- have fun ya'll-

spring blaze
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we dont die from isle, prairie, forest waters aside from the rain

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if the rain hurts us but not the waters itself then the rain must have something wrong

shy otter
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Does the rain kill the sky kids

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Like I'm not sure but they witther and get grey

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So i don't know if this is some kind of death or not

thin dirge
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Well, kinda..? But you could search up what happens or try it yourself-

spring blaze
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it can if you’re out long enough

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source: i fell asleep in forest rain SkyRespect

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and woke up in the pity star room SkyLOL

thin dirge
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Or if you used up all your light energy and cant fly and go into the rain

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Then wait

hushed steeple
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If you stand in the rain long enough you lose your light, and then after enough time you start to lose winged light, which then if you allow yourself to lose all of your winged light you get sent to ||orbit||

shy otter
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Or if you used up all your light energy and cant fly and go into the rain
@thin dirge i waited
But the wing things flew away and that's it

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Or is there more?

thin dirge
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Wait until you ran out of them

shy otter
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Oh

hushed steeple
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You have to lose all of your winged light

thin dirge
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Like, none left

spring blaze
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you lose all your winged light, then the flame, then the star, then you die

shy otter
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Also can i assume that the lives of former spirits were also hurt by rainM

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?*

thin dirge
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We dont know how the spirits died

bitter shale
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oh ye guys, did you think this beam of light represent soemthing? also is it shoout out from the sky or from the mountain?

thin dirge
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They may have died for different reasons

spring blaze
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spirits are hurt from rain but idk if it did hurt them when they were alive

thin dirge
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@bitter shale Its similar to the light beam in the concepts when you ascend...

bitter shale
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because in eye of eden, if we see closely we can see that the beam of light on the diamond actually shoot up to the sky

thin dirge
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The geysers that spit out light from the Eart and sens light creatures to Megan

bitter shale
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ooh pEyes

thin dirge
#

The light beam appears...
When you save the Prince

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The Prince seems to summon the light beam in the concepts?

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That's definitely food for thought-

shy otter
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oh ye guys, did you think this beam of light represent soemthing? also is it shoout out from the sky or from the mountain?
@bitter shale i think it looks like a volacnic eruption

bitter shale
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but then in next next mural we didnt see any beam... do you think they sealed the core of the light beam inside the diamond?

thin dirge
bitter shale
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i mean it possible right-

thin dirge
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Or maybe they made the Diamond do it itself rather than the kid doing it or something-

shy otter
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spirits are hurt from rain but idk if it did hurt them when they were alive
@spring blaze oh , where could that be seen?

bitter shale
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they didnt need the beam of light again since they already have the child of light to guide all light creatures to Megan...

thin dirge
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@shy otter We dont know. Lore of Sky is vague

spring blaze
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if you relieve the shiver spirit they get hurt from rain

bitter shale
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ye

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even tht umbrella guy

spring blaze
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also the lightseeker spirit in forest gets hurt too

shy otter
#

Oh

thin dirge
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The Prince is seen to be on top of the mountain where the beam was, with all light creatures circling, like a cycle.
Makes me believe the Prince was the one who triggered the cycle

bitter shale
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yep!

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the child of light is very important to the reborn cycle since they are the main trigger of it

thin dirge
#

Anyway, @shy otter, this topic is getting a little spoilery for you, I suggest try finishing the game first

bitter shale
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think of it like the CoL is the ferryman for the light creatures

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the guide of reborn cycle

thin dirge
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Well, technically the Isle Elder does that

bitter shale
#

mmm yea you were right-

but maybe isle elder have limit while the col didnt?

thin dirge
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Well, guides ppl to the light, but I guess CoL does something similar?

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Well, I believed the Prince was the incarnation of the Light itself, which was why they're so significant compared to many of the other skids out there

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They're the one who triggers the cycle

bitter shale
#

mmmm like this

isle elder can only guide the light creatures to Megan, but CoL can directly lead them to Megan

thin dirge
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Yeah

bitter shale
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i believe the prince is only one of kind. before us there is only one child of light and that is the Prince

thin dirge
#

Perhaps that's how the Prince was meant to lead.
Someone who isn't praised as some idol, but rather walks among the ppl and the light creatures to lead them to Megan and start the cycle

bitter shale
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after the Prince demise, Megan created lots of Children of Light insteda of one

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to prevent the same accident

spring blaze
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reminds me of jesus

thin dirge
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Well, yeah, but a lot of things didn't go right with the Prince, I believe

bitter shale
#

i mean, the symbol of Prince mask does looks like the Star of Bethlehem symbol...

thin dirge
#

Shoot, how come I didn't think of that-

bitter shale
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someone mention this on Twitter

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its in Japanese anyway SkyLOL

thin dirge
#

We're pretty much fixing the mistales of what the Prince did, maybe

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But are we the Prince or are they someone else is a good question to ask ourselves... pThink

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It's clear we're at least doing the thing that the Prince was meant to do from the beginning.
Walking among the light creatures and spirits to lead them to Megan and triggering the cycle

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Well, more like flying, but still

queen locust
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the first word my eyes were drawn to was the word jesus what have ya'll been up to-

thin dirge
bitter shale
thin dirge
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Oh yeah.... Looks similar

bitter shale
#

8 pointed star

spring blaze
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8 elders

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for me, prince grew up to be king so theyre both the same perosn

queen locust
#

Technically not- Twins count as 1

spring blaze
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shhh let me live in my little world

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that valley has 2 elders

queen locust
#

as if one chaotic elder wasn't enough Megan decided to let them split like it's mitosis and now we're stuck with two chaotic elders

spring blaze
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its those “two halves of a whole thing” but i like the idea of valley having two elders

bitter shale
#

lads i wanna ask, what is teh difference between rebirth and reincarnation?

queen locust
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Think of Rebirth as starting completely from scratch

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You're still the same person

thin dirge
#

Rebirth is repeating existence
Reincarnation is your soul being born in a new body

queen locust
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In the same body

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ye that-

bitter shale
#

oh yea also

for those bone of creatures in forest and gw, is because unnatural death right?

thin dirge
#

Maybe? Can't be sure tho

queen locust
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That's what we've hypothesized so far at least-

bitter shale
#

wait, its not in canon doc? pThink i remember reaidng that in canon doc... now i need to check it again

icy spruce
#

what

bitter shale
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nvm i cant find it ._.

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i forgot where i reda that-

queen locust
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Skimmed real quick it wasn't in canon lore doc

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just a bunch if skeletons and bones-

bitter shale
#

aw

queen locust
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wait what

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What l i g h t dragon-

bitter shale
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thought it might be a hint of light dragon existence...

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its in canon doc btw

tough path
#

not really serious but yall think that mountain in the distance in journey might be related to eden in some way? Like maybe same kingdom long time ago lol

queen locust
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But it's in the observations section so I ain't too sure about that Flos

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Not really Rei- Journey and Sky are separate games and have no lore between them- but ye that mountain looks sus

bitter shale
#

also i kinda have a crazy theory (mostly since its for my sky au but shhh)

what if Skids are Ancestors that got reincarnated?

icy spruce
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hmmm

bitter shale
#

we see so many ancestors in prophecy murals, but we can actually meet only few of them in game.

i mean its possible

pastel brookBOT
#

beware the ||mods||

bitter shale
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oh also

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ancestors does have stone body too

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like skids

neat fractal
#

Sorry if I'm interrupting but I went to eden, whole shebang, used a shrink spell for stormlock
And when I got into the dark room with the child, we were same height, smol. And when I canceled the spell the other child also grew with me
Idk pretty sure most people already think/theorise both of them are us, but well make with this info whatever ya want, just thought I'd say stickerHeart

queen locust
#

okay that's actually pretty interesting tho what-

thin dirge
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Woah

bitter shale
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HOOOO

thin dirge
#

So I guess the child is some reflection of us..?

bitter shale
#

we are the prince we are the prince we are the prince aoaoaooaoaoaoaooa

thin dirge
#

Honestly, trying to figure it out is breaking my brain

bitter shale
#

we can only ascend after we hug the boi

we need to confront ourselves to proceed???

thin dirge
#

Also hugging the boi restores our light, and makes us shiny

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The same way as we do in Trials

queen locust
#

I kinda wonder if this is the same thing that the Fallen see after being given Winged Light

thin dirge
#

Oh wait, that reminds me of a theory I had. Not ine I'm particularly devoted to, but good food for thought-

bitter shale
#

share

thin dirge
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In the theiry doc I had

queen locust
#

please share we're hungry

bitter shale
thin dirge
#

About the Prophecy lights, remember

queen locust
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ah brb gotta do chores keep going

thin dirge
#

I mentioned how the four elemental lights may have been used in Eden, maybe even used in the Eden Diamond

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Which is why Eden is chaotic atm

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Well, the lights go to us after proving ourselves worthy

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in the trials

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When we lose all our WL in Eden, the Diamond suddenly glows up

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As if it's reacting to us when we lose our light

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So what if the lights, within the Diamond, are reacting to our sacrifice and finds us worthy

#

the kid we meet in Eden is actually a personification of that, which is why we start glowing like we do in Trials after our death

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Though, there's another idea I had...

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But its kinda boring

queen locust
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You don't have to share if you don't wanna but I am kinda hooked-

proven mountain
#

I am too. Hi stickerHeart

queen locust
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Hello there

bitter shale
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altho the windwall is quite annoying ngl

neat fractal
#

I dunno why, but I just had a random thought thanks to Butter's theory about the propechy elements and Eden
What if they did try to use all elements into the diamond, and that caused the explosion?
Plus, Eden is very windy, flying rocks everywhere, and dirty poisoness water pEyes
And for the fire, I kinda wanna say it sorta spread and burned everything, which is why there's no sign of life like grass or flowers or trees, cuz they're all burned to a crispt
Oh, as well as some parts of buildings or stuff all being a dark color, cuz I can't see them building a dark, black ominous castle there

thin dirge
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That's actually pretty much what my theory was haha

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That Eden Diamond exploded because it couldn't handle the light's power

rapid juniper
#

Then why did they use all the elements to the diamond

thin dirge
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Well, they just did

rapid juniper
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What were they thinking

thin dirge
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That's kinda like asking why ppl irl still use fossil fuels, even if its bad for the environment
They just do it

rapid juniper
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And why would they use it in the main power diamond that controls

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Maybe theres a traitro

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Also they could have used the little diamonds

thin dirge
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Nah, I think they did it for the prosperity of the Kingdom

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But it wasn't good in the long run

rapid juniper
#

They could have used the little diamonds for experiment

thin dirge
#

Based from the murals, I don't think it had clear negative side effects until much later on

rapid juniper
#

Hm

thin dirge
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It occurred over time, rather than immediate

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That's why they didn't notice anything at first

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By the time they realised something's up, they were too late

rapid juniper
#

Well yeah they could have tested it firsts

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For me i think they are maybe stopping darkness

thin dirge
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They would, but as I said, even if they tested it, the negative side effects wouldn't have been clear until a very, very long time passed

rapid juniper
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But it end up getting worst

thin dirge
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There's a chance they've been warned, but ppl are greedy

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Even if its bad in the long rum, some ppl would just rather use it if it benefits themselves

rapid juniper
neat fractal
#

That's actually pretty much what my theory was haha
Oh whoops, my brain too slow then SkyLOL
Guess i was just tryna connect the dots for myself lmao

edgy sequoia
#

I dunno why, but I just had a random thought thanks to Butter's theory about the propechy elements and Eden
What if they did try to use all elements into the diamond, and that caused the explosion?
Plus, Eden is very windy, flying rocks everywhere, and dirty poisoness water pEyes
And for the fire, I kinda wanna say it sorta spread and burned everything, which is why there's no sign of life like grass or flowers or trees, cuz they're all burned to a crispt
Oh, as well as some parts of buildings or stuff all being a dark color, cuz I can't see them building a dark, black ominous castle there
@neat fractal not to mention there's a body curled up there too pFIRE

neat fractal
edgy sequoia
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yes

neat fractal
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@edgy sequoia indeed pEyes
Also, try not to quote large walls of text since it takes up a lot of space stickerHeart

undone harbor
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I wonder what’s inside the diamond

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It’s really big
Does it take a lot of light to make?
If so,what creature or how many creatures were used to make the diamond

neat fractal
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We were just talking about itSkyLOL
Scroll up a bit if you'd like

livid valley
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Well

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There's no specific number for that

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But we can sayy

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It's alot.

edgy sequoia
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JOOS

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that's lotta joos pFIRE

undone harbor
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JOOS

queen locust
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J o o s

rapid juniper
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JOos

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Whay

livid valley
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Ye

thin dirge
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Wait, hold up-

bitter shale
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im... well

for the diamond i think it was used to absorb megan's light

in prophecy mural we cans ee a beam of light on the peak of eden mountain. the same beam appeared in current game as well, but its moving upward

thin dirge
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You know how there's diamond symbols in our skid, right? Leftovers from Beta

bitter shale
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on our forehead right?

thin dirge
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No, the diamond symbol that was originally on our chest

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The small diamonds in the skid's model, or something

bitter shale
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oooh

icy spruce
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what

bitter shale
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oh yea the dot of light on our chest was originally shaped like diamond right?

thin dirge
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Yeah, that symbol

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There's leftover of it in our skid

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Im wondering, is it the same thing with the kid that we hug when we die in Eden..?

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Hmm... Maybe I should just ask in the other chat...

true basin
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Hello everybody!

Just a funny thought but...

Have you noticed in the different levels of the vault, each correspond to the different elder's/realms constellations.

And when you get up to the valley of triumph floor it's very empty aside from floating bones.

And here I thought,
"Dang, the twins don't get into meetings much do they? SkyLOL "

thin dirge
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Actually, that's Wasteland. The first floor is kinda meant to represent Isle. Shown by the sand in the area, I think? Or was there no sand..?

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The floor before that area is Valley

queen locust
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Ye- so it's more like "Dang the Twins REALLY like platforming"

thin dirge
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Well, they got the air element, and the Trial of Air has A LOT of platforming-

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It's the Trial I suffered in the most-

queen locust
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yo same- it was a pain tryna figure out how trajectories work

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freaking air cannons

thin dirge
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The moving platforms does not help either

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Died way too many times because of them

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They're harder than the rotating ones in Earth tbh

rancid phoenix
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Just wondering, has anyone theorized why the Cave of prophecies uses a portal to enter it?

queen locust
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Possibly to isolate themselves from the rest of the world- the thing seemed pretty hidden-

thin dirge
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Well, my interpretation that its a seperate space entirely and time flows differently there

queen locust
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Even more so back then I'd imagine-

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sometimes I kind of seriously wonder what the heck Isle looked like before Eden

thin dirge
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Hey, imagine all the students of the Prophets in the CoP are actually gonna be the spirits we will have in a future Season
Imagine having 7 spirits and a QG pFIRE

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Oh, it will be fun

rancid phoenix
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QG?

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aHh nvm-

queen locust
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i'm still holding onto those spirits being the same ones we see in the vanilla game

thin dirge
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Quest giver

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Actually, I dropped that theory just recently

rancid phoenix
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i'm still holding onto those spirits being the same ones we see in the vanilla game
@queen locust ooOOooOh, yeah. Before they became the epic spirits

queen locust
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I saw all the evidence against it but until I see that it was just coincidental design choice I'm holding onto it

thin dirge
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Well, maybe Pointing Pilgrim, but I'm not sure.
Aside from the guy, I feel certain that there's a chance everyine else is a spirit we haven't seen yet-

queen locust
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Having them be the same spirits has merits to it

thin dirge
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Plus, if it's a spirit we've seen, they would be glowing yellow if we ascended the spirits.

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I have all my spirits ascended, but they aren't yellow

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This is the case with Twirling Champion's memory

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There's two spirits we have encountered in game in their memory, and they actually appear yellow if you ascended them.

queen locust
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Yeah that's the evidence I see against it all the time, I'm kind of disappointed that those probably aren't the same spirits

thin dirge
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Yeah, true

queen locust
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especially Pilgrim because he was sus-

thin dirge
queen locust
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i just realized you said 7 earlier in place of 8

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Is that supposed to mean something-

thin dirge
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Pointing Pilgrim may not be a student

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That's why I said 7 and a QG

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Thats 8 overall

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And there's 8 students

queen locust
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Imma guess you mean the QG themselves are a student-

thin dirge
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Yeah

queen locust
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i'm doing a mental check in my head and i might be overthinking things but

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Pilgrim is the only emote that gave us any actual direction

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And just what he was pointing at has several layers to it- the general direction of it at least

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In the direction he's pointing, are the Isle Temple, Eden, and roughly the Cave of Prophecies

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all three of which are locations integral to the game in SOME way

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In that last one, he just happened to have some look-alike in who was involved with the trials- assuming that wasn't actually him

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when I ran through those emotes real quick a moff with the Pilgrim hair befriended me I'm-

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Anyway those were the things I found sus about the guy maybe I'm overthinking things-

sacred rapids
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alright I'm back from my existential breakdown that I had in here yesterday

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hopefully it won't happen again

queen locust
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oh man- sorry to hear about the breakdown-

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then again this is a game heavy on the life and death subtext

sacred rapids
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did you actually go back and read what I broke down over?

queen locust
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Nope

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i can guess though

sacred rapids
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you might not want to

queen locust
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Fam I'm a teen about to exit high school and uses the existential dread to shield themselves from the fear of the inevitable- hit me with your worst-

sacred rapids
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aight use the discord search tool I ain't scrolling to find it

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my name and in lore chat

queen locust
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oh m y

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Yeah wth Megan what do you w a n t-

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We've ascended all your bois

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We literally have nowhere else to move forward to after that-

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wait should I be talking about that I'm sorry

icy spruce
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I-

sacred rapids
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don't let me return to the existential breakdown place pleaseSkyScared

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I should try to not over think things

queen locust
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Okay okay we'll push the scary void place for later-

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not healthy for me on a school night either

icy spruce
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How's loring?

queen locust
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Smooth I think

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i still think Pilgrim sus

icy spruce
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I-

queen locust
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he might literally just be a mechanic to remind us where The Light wants us to go but like-

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It's the same thing where Isle Elder is the only Elder who deliberately points you to Eden

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kind of-

sacred rapids
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doesn't isle elder use birds to tell us where to go?

queen locust
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He does yeah

haughty talon
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Did anyone post parallels or similarities of some parts of the game lore with the ascension of Sun God "Ra" in Egyptian mythology? Many things seems similar... I was replying to a post in reddit about why anubis headed season guide might be connected to the prophecy and trials and it clicked that may other stuff may also be inspired from Egyptian mythology..

short owl
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Ok but I maybe have an answer to where we went "wrong"

queen locust
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I'm not too well-versed in Egyptian Afterlives-

short owl
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Sorry just finished backread of Jouske's post

queen locust
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But I'm very intrigued-

sacred rapids
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SkyScared what null?

short owl
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We were sent for the stars, but fell in love with the people

haughty talon
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Did anyone post parallels or similarities of some parts of the game lore with the ascension of Sun God "Ra" in Egyptian mythology? Many things seems similar... I was replying to a post in reddit about why anubis headed season guide might be connected to the prophecy and trials and it clicked that may other stuff may also be inspired from Egyptian mythology..
@haughty talon https://ancientegyptonline.co.uk/bookgates/

Sun god ascending and having a rebirth cycle, souls being guided to ascension, before ascending, going through various gates to find gods who they need to talk to to get yhe door opened to next realm, etc so many things seem similar. I will do a write up of what I found later. But wanted to throw this out in the open for discussion

pastel brookBOT
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i do not see u_u

thin dirge
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Hmm... I'm curious.
I started questioning my existence a few time, but they only last for a short while.
The last time I had one, gave me shivers and almost broke my brain, even if it was just for a brief moment

queen locust
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Falling in love with corpses

short owl
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Sure, we evaluate that as a good thing... But maybe Megabird does not feel the same.

queen locust
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yeah that never ends well

short owl
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Not corpses, spirits

thin dirge
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Aaannddd... Idk why I even shared that

short owl
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Very diffeeent

queen locust
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welcome to the existential crisis gang I guess

thin dirge
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Well, it wa stated to be lore significant

sacred rapids
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I'm just gonna leave

thin dirge
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Well, the halo, at least

lone wigeon
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Hello, I just thought of something. So there is a room in vault, the pull-up door one.
There is a table inside. Its huge in comprasion to a Sky kid and there it a spirit there so we can also see, that it seems too big for them too.
We know that elders are bigger than spirits. What if this table was for them? What if they used to sit in vault together from time to time? After all, vault has all elder monuments at the end, so...
Why would the table be so big?

thin dirge
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@sacred rapids Oof, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have triggered that-

queen locust
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Hey yeah why IS that thing so dang big

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Even with the spirits-

thin dirge
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Well, perhaps it was for Elders

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But uhh.... Im pretty sure little Prince here is too small for that

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Unless... mech

queen locust
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his mech's too big to fit

short owl
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I like the theory that it's for the elders, but the reason we are short chairs is not cause King is missing, but because the twins SHOULD NEVER BE SITTING DOWN FOR THAT LONG

lone wigeon
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I Have no idea about that whole king and prince stuff. XD
So im just about the elders.

queen locust
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Did they have to like- make one of those high chairs and we just never saw it

thin dirge
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The Twins are the closest thing to children aside from the skid themself, lmao

short owl
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You forget baby questgiver spirit in Sightseer's memory

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That one is a total daaaawwwwww

queen locust
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Sightseer is a treasure honestly-

thin dirge
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I mean, out of the Elders

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But yeah

lone wigeon
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I should go there again and count the chairs. If by some pure luck there will be at least 6 i am damn sure that elders would pop up there for some tea time

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It sounds silly, but what a nice thought :D

thin dirge
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Wait, which word was filtered?

queen locust
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The Twins behaving and drinking tea brings me a sense of foreboding

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It went too fast for me to see- sorry :'DD

thin dirge
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More like a crazy family dinner or something

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is chaotic filtered?

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Oof, no

queen locust
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all I'm picturing is the 'who broke it' meme

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Thank god for MonoYagi-

short owl
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Someone animated that

thin dirge
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I was planning to have that Who broke It meme, but with the Eden Diamond and the Prince asking who broke it, LMAO

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Never got to do it

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Yet

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Well, I have the drawings, but they're not finished

queen locust
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Of course it was the Prince xnsmdndnd

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They don't have slits bro-

lone wigeon
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Oooooh

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So belonging capes are a bit ascended, lol

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Its because of journey references xD

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Guys, there are 6 chairs pEyes pEyes pEyes

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They are still a bit small for some elders thought

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Probably

queen locust
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i can smell the chaos

lone wigeon
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They share everything XD

thin dirge
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Oooh

lone wigeon
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Hm

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Guys I know

queen locust
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hot take but they'd 100 percent fight the Prince for a seat

lone wigeon
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One of the chairs is laying on the ground. Its because twins would never take a sit - they would just fight for it and thus its on the ground now pEyes

queen locust
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the twins are the leg

livid valley
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That is-

queen locust
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There's not enough seats so the Prince just up and made one

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would it be comfortable to sit on a Valley Elder's back-

lone wigeon
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I mean, they could always bring some more chairs, these are just chairs, also in a broken down room. Its been a long time since anybody sat behind that table, so some chairs could just be gone

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Maybe he likes standing

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Grumpy?

sacred rapids
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ok is everything died down from what I accidentally started?

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don't worry about it

thin dirge
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My headcanon that he wasn't always like that.
Ayin being a big sleeper only happened after the fall of the Kingdom. He became depressed.
Before, he was more of a work-a-holic or something

queen locust
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okay now he's big sad what the heck-

thin dirge
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Was always busy

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Being a farmer and all

lone wigeon
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I wonder how vault has 2 elders in the first place. Other realms Have one. How did it happen? That brings me to a question: how did elders become elders

queen locust
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poor guy always seemed so cheerful dndndj

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Elders were always Elders

lone wigeon
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Also, he was asleep on one cutscene, how dare you to judge him so hard on that. XD

queen locust
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at least according to canon lore

thin dirge
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He's the Elder that worked the hardest and the most dedicated out of all the Elders.
Loved playing with children, but was often too busy for it

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For Teth, my headcanon she was actually the second to that

undone harbor
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Ayin is
precious

thin dirge
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She was originally the most calm and patient out of the group

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Also dedicated

queen locust
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Fanon names guys- minimizing-

undone harbor
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Is there anyway to shorten the elders’ name without mentioning their fanon names?

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Theory:Eden diamond went boom,killed a lot of stuff,Prairie elder saw that,depressed,s l e e p

lone wigeon
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I still dont get why all of you are calling him depressed

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Because he was asleep when a kid came

livid valley
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Who's ayin again

undone harbor
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Prairie elder

lone wigeon
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Also, every elder is pretty sad for the begoning

undone harbor
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Because he has slept for SO LONG-

lone wigeon
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Dude, we saw him sleep once, and how do you know for how long

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We Have no prove he sleeps all the time

sacred rapids
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no I think he was just hibernating

queen locust
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Pretty dang long-

lone wigeon
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Orbit?

queen locust
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Presumably since the disaster-

lone wigeon
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Ah

livid valley
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Can't say how long specifically honestly

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Just long as they said

lone wigeon
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I am not a fan of that theory about his depression, not enough proof for me

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Im not buying that

thin dirge
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Wait, is it just me, or does the five elders after Isle and before Eden represent the five stages of grief?

lone wigeon
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If you meet him in the orbit, he looks like he is in a bad mood because u disturbed his sleep
@hushed steeple would you be happy if someone woke u up dood? XD

thin dirge
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Oof, I gtg tho

queen locust
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Denial- Anger- Bargaining- Depression- Acceptance

thin dirge
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I'll bring it up later, cya

queen locust
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In that order-

lone wigeon
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I do not think so

livid valley
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Bye Butter

queen locust
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I dunno- it kinda fits the bill pretty well- aside from the Twins and bargaining at least

lone wigeon
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I am not convinced

queen locust
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You don't have to be, it's a theory- everyone has misgivings

lone wigeon
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Although since this is a game, and we only meet the elders in few places, wouldn't their actions tell their personality?
@hushed steeple if someone enjoys sleep it doesnt has to mean they are depressed, not enough proof for me

queen locust
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It's very telling of their personalities- we assumed as much with both the Twins and Forest Mama

lone wigeon
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Yeah but sleep doesnt mean depression

livid valley
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I can just say he's lazy

queen locust
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I don't think he's all that depressed either actually- maybe just worn out and he's literally the only one who thought sleeping was nice lmao

lone wigeon
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Or tired from all the work? He was hardworker

queen locust
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Hibernating Prairie Elder-

lone wigeon
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I don't think he's all that depressed either actually- maybe just worn out and he's literally the only one who thought sleeping was nice lmao
@queen locust I like that thought XD

livid valley
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Man imagine sleeping a long time

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Probs a good dream

sacred rapids
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I'm going to go off and get food and maybe do a eden run

queen locust
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I can draw a correlation between Depression and Sleep though- but with how little we see of the Elders I have my doubts

lone wigeon
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I can draw a correlation between Depression and Sleep though- but with how little we see of the Elders I have my doubts
@queen locust exactly

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It doesnt seem right

queen locust
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GIANT HUGGABLE ELDER

lone wigeon
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That would be awesome

queen locust
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Prairie would make the best chair

lone wigeon
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Thats what big mantas are for

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I mean, look

queen locust
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what if that's why there's only 6 chairs the Prince just uses Prairie Elder as a chair

lone wigeon
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what if that's why there's only 6 chairs the Prince just uses Prairie Elder as a chair
@queen locust I Have no clue about who is that prince dood, but I like that theory anyway

livid valley
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Mantas can go through walls right

queen locust
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It's a pretty dang big door but the mechanism used to open it is weird if it's meant for the Elders

lone wigeon
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Also, guys, elders Have different sizes in Eden. Maybe they can ulter their size
But its just a thought

queen locust
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Prince and King are very big deals so I suggest reading up on them

lone wigeon
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It's a pretty dang big door but the mechanism used to open it is weird if it's meant for the Elders
@queen locust they could Have some spirits do it for them

queen locust
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there's barely any to read up on anyway XD

cosmic ember
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What if the worm bois in trials are krill hathlings

lone wigeon
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Yeah, I should read something..

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Oh god no

cosmic ember
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They develop legs once they evolve

lone wigeon
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Krills are evolving

cosmic ember
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AND THE EYES TURN BLUE COLLIDE INTO 1

lone wigeon
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Krills with no cooldownpEyes

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How dare u

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You know what

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Creebs are cute

queen locust
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They're smoky dust bunnies indifferent to life and warmth I legit question your tastes sometimes XD

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krebs are devil spawn

short owl
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Dark worms are really hard to see

lone wigeon
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They're smoky dust bunnies indifferent to life and warmth I legit question your tastes sometimes XD
@queen locust why bunnies

queen locust
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No clue it just kinda stuck when we were tryna decide what to name them

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Jesus Fire Prophet your abominations are ineffective for the horror factor against these guys XD

lone wigeon
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Hm... what if it doesnt matter what are these things. Maybe even tgc dont know that and put them there for the trial purpose. Maybe even tgc doesnt know the whole lore and we are the ones creating it every day

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Yes

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Go play with moths, it can bring your sanity back

queen locust
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I've got a better idea