lore-discussion-spoilers

[neat fractal]

I mean, some boats fly
As shown in the waving spirit cutscene in prairie and that the boat to forgotten ark starts floating as it paddles and then go through clouds

[edgy sequoia]

Maybe the world of sky was filled up with water????
@dawn wasp how would it be sky when it's filled with water

[undone harbor]

Boats fly in Sky

Anyways a brighter picture of what the scholar statue in Eden is like if anyone wants to know
(The lines on the head is irrelevant, it isn't part of the statue)

[dawn wasp]

Leni_Damuffin#3901 how would it be sky when it's filled with water
@edgy sequoia
Well sky has water mostly tho, the home space or maybe sky was islands of destinations

[undone harbor]

Also clouds are water but gas form so

[dawn wasp]

That’s actually a fact

And I can applaud that

And the one thing that bugs me is that do the elders have a specific backstory?

[edgy sequoia]

Anyways a brighter picture of what the scholar statue in Eden is like if anyone wants to know
(The lines on the head is irrelevant, it isn't part of the statue)
@undone harbor how did you get the model :0

[undone harbor]

The art of Sky:children of the light on YouTube!
I was bugging around and found it,so I might as well share it here

https://youtu.be/FwcNVlpymNk

Check the pins as well,TGC has notes of that

Also comparing the size of the statue to a skykid
ITS SO BIG HOW DID THEY EVEN MAKE IT AND PLACE IT THERE-

[queen locust]

jesus christ that's h u g e-

[fast jasper]

spirits are not that taller than us but still what they doing making statues so big

[livid valley]

honour

[solar relic]

exactly why there’s a bunch of king statues in gw

fuel that ego

[brisk geyser]

fuel that king propaganda

[toxic crane]

Is it kinda suspicious that we can find same symbol of sun in praire that is also on the shields in wasteland

[distant matrix]

maybe the happiness of your childhood is your shield in adulthood?

[toxic crane]

Oooh that makes sense

[noble moon]

so i was looking on the sky reddit and this was in a post, and im interested now.

second picture is a biblically accurate angel, are there any connections between these or??

[livid valley]

ah yes the scary angels are back

[undone harbor]

I just saw that angel yesterday
now it came back to haunt me

[queen locust]

Best part is that's only Thrones

The real scary stuff is Seraphim

Maybe Cherubim if you're into amalgamations

[undone harbor]

Idk seraphims seem pretty cool

[queen locust]

not in their actual, non-watered down forms they ain't

[undone harbor]

We have the lady with thousands of hands and each hand has an eye here so

Idk why people were so into eyes back in the days

[short owl]

That's an armilary sphere... But I don't know how accurate it is of how modified it would be to match the angel

[rotund cloud]

did people discuss about the prince in the cavern of prophecies?

[queen locust]

weren't Thrones supposed to be like- angels on fire or smthn

oh man my guy you should have seen the chat when the murals first dropped-

Discussed is almost an understatement

[undone harbor]

More of who that glowy boi was

But yes

[queen locust]

So far we're split in between the glowy boi being us or the Prince

Depending on how you interpret glowy bois

[undone harbor]

Discussed is almost an understatement
@queen locust we need a word for that

[queen locust]

Freaked the hell out?

wait that's not a word

[undone harbor]

Exploded

[queen locust]

By some miracle we didn't flood the chat enough to go into slowmode

[undone harbor]

There were more people getting stuck in the trial

To even see the mural

Can't blame them

[queen locust]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14uVgsmI5GTpanqaXUdLWZLg2ZLiP6FfGr44fZYi6Zww/edit?usp=drivesdk

Credits to Butters for the essay

I recommend giving this theory a read if you're inclined to believe that the glowy boi is the Prince

@rotund cloud

There's several other theories that have gone over the glowy boi being us instead, but I don't have enough material to go over that- much less do those theories justice

[rotund cloud]

pretty sure it's the prince

looks like prince

[queen locust]

So am I but the others gave pretty compelling arguments

Even if I don't necessarily agree all that much-

frankly I still believe that the murals predate Eden but until anything is confirmed that's just speculation

[rotund cloud]

hummmm

wonder when we will get whole picture

[queen locust]

We'll likely never get anything direct but it's fun to imagine either way

[unborn orchid]

Does anyone has an answer as to why the Isle elder is the only elder not appearing at the Eden door?

[queen locust]

Some say it's because he rebelled against the King in some way

[unborn orchid]

Old guy with a stick

Cannon

He's Gandalf

[queen locust]

what exactly it was that he did is something I've got no clue on but it's one of the theories I've seen floating around

I kind of believe that it might have something to do with Prophecy

[solar relic]

technical answer: isle was a tutorial realm back in pre-global and the eden door model from then was carried over to global
argument: it’s been a year since sky has been released globally so why hasn’t the door been modified?

i agree with viridi, i think it’s because of isle elder’s involvement with the prophecy gang that their mask wasn’t put on the eden door

[unborn orchid]

Hmm

I need to inspect the murals with a friend who's historian, maybe they've got some ideas

He'll prolly kill me for even asking tho so just in case, bye forever guys, it's been nice

[undone harbor]

Maybe isle wasn't that much of an important place so its elder wasn't included

[queen locust]

Aw come on- game discoveries are just as interesting XD

[undone harbor]

I theorised that Isle elder came later to the realm,like ok new place explore we'll hire

This old guy because knowledge

[queen locust]

'we'll hire this old guy who knows stuff this definitely will not backfire- he's wise and stuff'

[undone harbor]

But at the same time I follow the theory that prophecy stuff was before elders and king

[queen locust]

Out of all the Elders, I'd daresay Isle Elder was probably the most familiar with the elements

He was the one distributing them across the realms after all

I'm basing this off the Air Trial murals mostly

[unborn orchid]

Ok

So

Maybe

[queen locust]

Not to mention the Cave of Prophecies was in his realm

[pastel brook]

i do not see u_u

[unborn orchid]

I just filled him in real quick

Either King was the leader of skychildren

Or he was a skychild who studied under all elders and reached the light before anyone else

[livid valley]

i do not see u_u
i see u_u

[unborn orchid]

He says from the video about murals it seems some elders were obsessed with certain element, so maybe they gave up ont he light in it's stead

[queen locust]

When you say obsessed all I'm picturing is the Wasteland Elder committing arson-

[zealous cargo]

I just realized that the bones in the graveyard is actually the bones of the creature you see in vault

[unborn orchid]

xD

[queen locust]

or the Twins going absolutely insane with the wind-

[unborn orchid]

Well valley is windy

And you do have to burn a lot of stuff in the wasteland

Plus it's a dessert

[queen locust]

i do so love an oil-flavored dessert

Jk-

[undone harbor]

'we'll hire this old guy who knows stuff this definitely will not backfire- he's wise and stuff'
@queen locust imagine they said the same with darkness

[unborn orchid]

His main argument being the last image

[queen locust]

Also Rhen could you provide some pics for that-

[unborn orchid]

Where every elder was depicted before the "ultimate light being"

[zealous cargo]

Brb I forgot to pic 😂

[queen locust]

Tis okie, take your time my guy

mostly cuz I never noticed the bones too much either I was too busy not wanting to die

[wheat sigil]

I am finally brave enough to venture into this channel time to do some reading-

[queen locust]

Oh hi- welcome to lore chat!

Aka the brain cell juicer

Have you poked around the pins yet Kiku?

[wheat sigil]

Looking at them right now!

So many links @_@

[tight sinew]

Ok so
I'm 100% a moth in lore
But I just seen a detail and I thought about a little thing
Maybe it has nothing to do with the story but...still
Sorry if it's a dumb theory
So, you guys know that there is a bonfire cooking crabs in graveyard right?

[queen locust]

Nice- always good to have a look in there first

Yep- crab roasting spit

Take your time reading through the pins though Kiku, it'll be worth it

[tight sinew]

I think someone is living in graveyard
Or lived and left
Or just died
And yes that's it

[queen locust]

Eat the thing one bite at a time

[tight sinew]

I just thought it's a nice little detail ;-;

[queen locust]

kind of amusing that crabs are edible-

[tight sinew]

Maybe-

[queen locust]

I've been told it was an Easter Egg but still-

Edible crab-

[tight sinew]

Who would have to eat it?

[queen locust]

Ancestors, most likely

We can't be too sure about it tho

since y'know- none of them have visible mouths

[tight sinew]

I think someone is living in graveyard
Or lived and left
Or just died
And yes that's it
That's what i thought basically
That someone stays in graveyard and cooks them to eat them

But since no one in game seems to need food...-

[unborn orchid]

Just a thought

[edgy sequoia]

I just imagined a scenario abt the crabs edible:
Moth: munches on crab
Moth: why it spicy?

[unborn orchid]

But since no one in game seems to need food...-
@tight sinew What if there is though

[tight sinew]

Then no one I know myself

[edgy sequoia]

soldiers perhaps?

[unborn orchid]

Have we ever considered there being like

Children of darkness?

Like creatures aren't the only thing turned

[queen locust]

I've seen the idea float around the chat a few times

[tight sinew]

Ooo
I want to know more
If there would be
How they would affect the world of sky? Is there any proof there can be corrupted skykids?

[unborn orchid]

What if they hide from the light (us)

[queen locust]

I actually kind of doubt the idea, but it's not like much is confirmed regarding skykid biology

[tight sinew]

Well, we first have to see how skykids got created
I mean why

[unborn orchid]

Man this is interesting

[queen locust]

One theory that I see pop up often is that Skykids are vessels for light

[unborn orchid]

Wish I didn't have to go back to work

[tight sinew]

Maybe there can be a connection?
(And as I said I'm a moth in lore I'll understand nothing)

[unborn orchid]

Welp see ya

[tight sinew]

For wings?
And bye! Have a great day

[queen locust]

Oof- see ya Vort

How so? Regarding the wing thing

[tight sinew]

..I'm confused
You talk about the corrupted skykids or vessels for light?

[queen locust]

I dunno, you mentioned a connection and wings and I wanted to see where it goes

[tight sinew]

I meant connection with how and why skykids got created with the skykids being corrupted

;-;

[queen locust]

Ohhhh-

[tight sinew]

And wings i meant
The thing you said about light vessels

[runic cove]

Heyo! Anyone have that image of the elders names?

[queen locust]

Well I dunno much about how they can be corrupted exactly

Oh- gimme a minute

I'd suggest minimizing the use of these names though- mostly to prevent confusion

Credits to Bricky for the source material

[runic cove]

Thank you!

[tight sinew]

Are these official?

Or?

[queen locust]

They're concept names for the Elders

Mostly accepted as fanon, but they are no longer canon

Ktjin came in here to tell us to refrain from using them too much to avoid confusion

[runic cove]

Oki

[tight sinew]

I'm so dumb i didn't read the Note and i asked when the answer was there ;-;
Anyway thx!

[queen locust]

Tis okie- Bricky's doc isn't pinned so-

The names are still in the pins somewhere though, in Theory Vault

[tight sinew]

ViridiAve, what is one of your theories that you work on? I'm curious

[queen locust]

Just Vir is fine, no need to pain yourself with the full thing skckdkdk

And I don't really work on too many theories much less am I just someone who's really interested in reading others' theories

Most of whatever thoughts I might have had were already said, so I just go along with whoever said it :/

[tight sinew]

Well there are a lot of people in the community so it's normal to have people repeatedly say things
I've actually didn't been here too much so I know... no theory that I can remember

;-;

[queen locust]

That's okay too- you can always help expand upon other theories with ideas of your own

Things others might have missed

Though there is one theory I kind of want to expand on-

And that's the idea of an Underworld in Sky

If we have an Orbit for heaven- a place of light, there might also be a place of darkness

[neat fractal]

Place of darkness..before or after Eden?

[queen locust]

Because their home was in the clouds, it's not farfetched to imagine there's something underneath

Even before Eden ye

[neat fractal]

Ah gotcha

[willow granite]

Is there an eden elder(A concept art or something)

[queen locust]

The lowest point that we see in Sky is on sea level

Oh thanks Rhen-

Also that depends, I think?

[neat fractal]

Does the underground part in sunny forest not count as a lowest point maybe?

[livid valley]

Is there an eden elder(A concept art or something)
tons

[queen locust]

On whether or not you consider the King or the Prince as the Eden Elder

[neat fractal]

Also pretty sure there used to be an Eden elder but he's not able to be saved anymore

[livid valley]

it just how who you consider :)) the eden elder

[queen locust]

Oh no- the Underground's lowest point still had clouds

Unlike Sanctuary and Isle and Wasteland

But that's just kind of it, what if their Underworld was just the ocean

The same way that there's eldritch horrors possibly lurking beneath our own oceans irl

A place where not even light can reach

Past a certain depth, light will not be visible underwater

[fading bear]

What's the Underground?

[queen locust]

The Underground Caverns in Hidden Forest

The one with the whale-

[fading bear]

ooohh

[queen locust]

man that emote took way too long-

So here I was wondering, if krill really were organic beings, could they have manifested underwater?

[lethal stump]

we see them come out of a liquid, so probably

[queen locust]

Deep, deep underwater- where light cannot reach them?

But that's just my two cents on the Underworld thing

[zealous cargo]

And they leave darkness particles

Are mantas different from the whale

[chilly shoal]

It makes sense cus the darkest place in The world IS deep under the sea

[queen locust]

Mantas are different from whales- iirc whales aren't light creatures

Backing this up, maybe krill really do just thrive in dark places with little light, and the only two places we see them in are dark places like Wasteland and Eden

Places where darkness thrives

[lethal stump]

probably why they live in toxic ooze

[queen locust]

yeah that's kind of the clincher in this one- perhaps they just live in toxic places, who knows

Not clean untouched waters like the ocean

But if a krill was sighted from a time as far back as Prophecy maybe that isn't so true?

I dunno- still just a two cents of mine

[midnight oxide]

This channel is fuelling my lore hunger

[boreal bone]

Okay, anyone else believing that the Proph ulti is Xolotl and not Anubis? Just me?

[livid valley]

This channel is fuelling my lore hunger
your hunger will never be filled

[queen locust]

Probably? Who's Xolotl- to begin with-

[shadow carbon]

Xolotl is an Aztec god, often depicted as a dog-headed man and was a soul-guide for the dead

[boreal bone]

Pre-colonial Latin American mythology

[livid valley]

looks like i have to learn a little more about Gods eh

[zealous cargo]

For me I think it looks more like anubis

[boreal bone]

Even their other gods seem to look like the Prophets' masks

[pastel brook]

help im stuck writing prophecies

[boreal bone]

Well, the whole aesthetics of Prophecy is on the stone side. Egyptians used more of a combination of stone and gold

[livid valley]

it looks more like anubis ngl

[queen locust]

god I keep disconnecting but keep going-

Which other gods could the Prophets be?

[rapid pollen]

Daily Food for Thought:
Trial of Fire

What's that big darkness?

What are the creatures in it?

Where did they come from?

[topaz girder]

krillfart

[livid valley]

its all a illusion

[rapid pollen]

o-o

[livid valley]

tbh idk

[rapid pollen]

Smert

That could be it

[steady pollen]

[rapid pollen]

The big darkness

Could be

WAIIIT

if its all an illusion

then the illusion is in our minds

and the trials are us

faceing our emotions

facing*

Trial of Water faces our recklessness

[sacred rapids]

I think the darkworms are the souls of those who didn't make it through the trial

[livid valley]

yes

[rapid pollen]

Trial of Earth faces our uh

i forgot

lol

well from what everyone usually says

[queen locust]

personally I still just think those worms exist solely in the trial-

[rapid pollen]

the trials determine if we are worthy to become the king

[queen locust]

Simulating darkness but not quite

[rapid pollen]

each trial makes us face something bad bout ourselves

[livid valley]

thats what everyone says :))

[rapid pollen]

recklessness, fear etc.

[hollow python]

i have read the chat and now i want to know m o r e

[rapid pollen]

and by doing the trials we face this

and become better people

and better leaders

[queen locust]

Get ready to get more of your brain cells juiced then Fenira XD

[rapid pollen]

the skills we learn are something a king needs

patience from water

courage from frier

fire*

what werer the other ones i forgot

[queen locust]

Earth= Resilience

Air=Balance

[rapid pollen]

ok

see a king needs this

to be a good king

the prophets are like

[livid valley]

King flying be pretty funi

[hollow python]

my head is already burning

[rapid pollen]

yall watched naruto

the Village elders

[queen locust]

It was balance last I checked-

[rapid pollen]

they help the Hokage

decided things

the prophets could be like the elders

testing you before you can lead fully

so that

there isnt a repeat

and we dont become corrupted

because my theory is

the king is a skykid

but in a mech

[hollow python]

thats

whoa

[livid valley]

another one that is mentioned ;))

[rapid pollen]

cuz the prince concept art shows him as a skykid

or at least

[hollow python]

my brain burns

[rapid pollen]

skykid-sized

[queen locust]

when you say that all I'm thinking is that we're being tested if we're worthy of riding a mech lmao

[livid valley]

kinda Skid

[rapid pollen]

when you say that all I'm thinking is that we're being tested if we're worthy of riding a mech lmao
@queen locust worthy of the title

of the leadership

what if

WAIIT

[livid valley]

i sure would want to control a mecha a size of a giant

[rapid pollen]

I JUST MADE A HUGE CONNECTION

[queen locust]

I know, but I'll take the mech over a kingdom any day

[rapid pollen]

EVERY TIME

WE GO RESTORING TEH ELDERS

HELPING THE SPIRITS

EACH SEASON< HELPING THE ANCESTOR SPIRITS

AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE KINGDOM

UNTIL NOW WHEN ITS PRETTY CLEAR WE R BEING TESTED

ITS ALL BEEN TO PREPARE US

TO BE THE NEXT KING

[hollow python]

OH

[rapid pollen]

[livid valley]

lower down your caps user

[rapid pollen]

antHjfsnadfahtbfn afnigo7eesIUweho

im so hyped my hands are shaking

[livid valley]

and your unknown alien words

thank you

[hollow python]

[rapid pollen]

my brain power went from 8% use to 100% for a second there

my synapses are firing

[livid valley]

back to 8%

[rapid pollen]

maybe

more like 12

my hands are shaking

still

oh god

[hollow python]

this makes so much sense

[rapid pollen]

ikr

[hollow python]

i want to scream

[queen locust]

That's the most incomprehensible set of keyboard mashing I've seen- the actual keyboard smash I mean-

[rapid pollen]

im suggesting it in the lore doc rn please dont credit any of it to yourself bc im pretty proud of my idea

[queen locust]

We're not heathens relax

[livid valley]

ikr

[hollow python]

as a reward i can send you the entire shrek script

[rapid pollen]

nah

im good

[livid valley]

its on the internet

[queen locust]

IMDB is a beautiful place

[rapid pollen]

IMBD*

i think

or not

idk

my brain isnt working straight rn

[hollow python]

my brain burns like roasted and stuff

[queen locust]

Maybe breathe first dawg those caps must have been exhausting

[rapid pollen]

i feel like

harry wells

from the flash

after hee used the thinking cap

with dark matter

o-o

[hollow python]

haha

[livid valley]

what is this pirate accent? anyway back to lore

[queen locust]

I don't get the reference but if you're that paranoid about your theory being stolen better get typing my guy

[hollow python]

[rapid pollen]

I don't get the reference but if you're that paranoid about your theory being stolen better get typing my guy
the reference is about my brain

[hushed steeple]

𝚈𝙾𝚄 𝙲𝙰𝙽𝙽𝙾𝚃 𝙴𝚂𝙲𝙰𝙿𝙴 𝚃𝙷𝙴 𝙺𝙸𝙽𝙶 𝙿𝚁𝙾𝙿𝙰𝙶𝙰𝙽𝙳𝙰 𝙷𝙰𝙷𝙰𝙷𝙰𝙷𝙰

[rapid pollen]

Harry Wells' brain got fried basically from using the cap

[hushed steeple]

𝙸𝙼 𝙰𝙻𝚆𝙰𝚈𝚂 𝚆𝙰𝚃𝙲𝙷𝙸𝙽𝙶 𝙴𝚅𝙴𝚁𝚈 𝚂𝚃𝙴𝙿 𝚈𝙾𝚄 𝙶𝚄𝚈𝚂 𝚃𝙰𝙺𝙴 𝙸𝙽 𝙻𝙾𝚁𝙴 𝙲𝙷𝙰𝚃 𝙷𝙴𝙷𝙴𝙷𝙴𝙴𝙷

[hollow python]

oop

kokichi oma is alive

[hushed steeple]

Hehe

[hollow python]

my brain reallly burns

[lethal stump]

@hushed steeple please don’t use fonts like that, since they aren’t accessible to everyone to read

[hushed steeple]

Really?

Can't it be seen by anyone tho?

[lethal stump]

people who use screen-readers or certain phones can’t read it

[hushed steeple]

Ok

[queen locust]

Preparing us to become the next king makes me feel kind of iffy though

[hollow python]

yeah

[bitter shale]

nnaaaah

i cant even hold responsibilty on myself, let alone a whole kingdom

[hollow python]

haha its weird, just think abt it, maybe someday there will be another cutscene when you get reborn

thats how i imagine it

haha

[zealous cargo]

It looks like the current sky kid is looking on what the kid have done in this kingdom

[bitter shale]

unless...?

[zealous cargo]

Since sky kid = prince?

[bitter shale]

skid hold the fragments of the prince

orr at least the former col

maybe

[queen locust]

the source of my iffiness actually just comes from the notion that we'd be given empty reign over what's essentially a corpse of a kingdom

[hollow python]

ahhhhhhhhhh all of this makes my brain go brrrrr

[bitter shale]

indeed

like what are we suppose to do? we might be the king but of what kingdom? the kingdom already lost, nothing but a corpse of past glory.

become a king of an empty kingdom doesnt sounds fancy

[zealous cargo]

Is the prince and king the same person?

[bitter shale]

speculated

maybe

no strong proof yet

[queen locust]

Also like- you have two whole realms rendered uninhabitable

that's your responsibility now child

Kinda like Hollow Knight but less... Dour

[hushed steeple]

I think I found out what a krill was based off of 👀

[rapid pollen]

I think I found out what a krill was based off of 👀
@hushed steeple eaten by whales

explains why no krills until the second part of wasteland. theres a whale near the first part

[hushed steeple]

So does that mean that the Krill in sky are eaten by the whales in sky?

[rapid pollen]

Maybe

[sly fractal]

probably not exactly that, but they could have countered each other

[hushed steeple]

Maybe if we put on our whale call it will scare the Krill away

[sly fractal]

i dont think so, but i can test it later because i dont mind suffering

[hushed steeple]

I can try it and screen record it for proof

if it works im convinced that whales eat Krill

[sly fractal]

i really dont think it'll work

[willow shoal]

[sly fractal]

i mean, they're not canonically called krill, sky community calls them that because that's what they look like

[hushed steeple]

true

[gilded raven]

huh it makes sense that the dark worms are made of smoke since they can go through the maze walls

I don't get the weird red light tho maybe it could be like the krill eye thing

[hushed steeple]

I think the red things are their eyes

[sly fractal]

i dont think they dont go through maze walls though?

[hushed steeple]

yeah

[gilded raven]

I deep called and zoomed out and I saw tons of them going through the walls

[hushed steeple]

which part of the maze?

[sly fractal]

ill check when i go through again, but i think they traveled on some other paths

[viscid coyote]

@hushed steeple that’s why we call it krill, it’s not it’s oficial name

[gilded raven]

the part where I deep called a lot and saw was near the end

[viscid coyote]

probably not exactly that, but they could have countered each other
@sly fractal bam, bam!

[hushed steeple]

Maybe the whales don't eat krill but krill are scared of whale? Ill test it out when I do my cr in gw

Then we might find out more about the whales because we dont know a whole lot about them

speaking of whales what do they do? We have only seen they're appearence in the green area of the forest, entering gw, and eden

[sly fractal]

i dont think any of the creatures have a "purpose" but i think the whales we saw may have been trained to fight the krill

[undone harbor]

the whales floats around cloudy places,wonder why there aren't many of them

but they're so chonky I want to pet them so much

[gilded fossil]

/yessssss

/hey is the whale present on the prophecy murals?

[lethal stump]

no, but the elder manta is

[shell sluice]

Is this ts like siblings with theeeee other small ts with the bowwww

[neat fractal]

Pretty sure yeah

All the spirits for belonging was a whole family I believe

[hushed steeple]

I realised that the worm eyes look like isle elders activated staff

[icy spruce]

Huh

[hushed steeple]

You need to look closely in the cutscene

[shell sluice]

oooo yea I think they were a whole family, the current ts and bow one just seem like they’d be twins or something with the height and matching capes

[icy spruce]

And the other one, uhhh this one also I think-

[inner basalt]

Now that I knew I feel his eyes watching every time I go there xd

[spring blaze]

you cant escape king propaganda

[icy spruce]

I-

[hollow orbit]

the king always watches

[solar relic]

you are not immune to propaganda

[hushed steeple]

king propaganda? I just came to check the channel, and I see this

[rose gorge]

ignorance is strength

[solar relic]

i found the original one this makes me nostalgic

[hushed steeple]

[solar relic]

also i saw some people speculating here that the statues might have been turrets due to the latest murals 👁️ 👁️

[waxen oracle]

I been to this spot countless times and I just noticed this

[neat fractal]

Yo that concept art looks s i c c

imagine if corrupted king was a final boss you had to defeat/reform

[solar relic]

hello, that's actually not concept art- it seems to be someone else's fanart that i've seen making its rounds around here sometimes

[neat fractal]

Oh! Well it's still very cool!

[solar relic]

(you may want to delete the art though, since fanart reposts aren’t allowed in here)

as for the official concept art

this was probably what they were referencing

[waxen oracle]

Well my reference was pointing out that the statute in the shipwreck looks like the king and there are 8 pillars around it, there are 7 realms and 7 elders plus us (1) 8

[solar relic]

7 elders?

ohh counting the twins as separate

[waxen oracle]

Yeah lol I often mistaken the twins as 1 as well

I don’t think I posted the second picture did i?

[solar relic]

hm but they are collectively referred to as elder of the valley like a 2-in-1 package huhu
interesting observation

[solar relic]

second picture?

ahh yes

[waxen oracle]

Will the king be coming in the further maybe?

[solar relic]

since the king is probably dead though perhaps he could come back through spirit memories and flashback

or,, maybe he’s in game already and we don’t know it

[neat fractal]

If king = Eden elder, then he really can't be saved
Although I'd die if there was a king memory
Imagine following that big unit

[pale copper]

Big man

[solar relic]

i would laugh if he really was a small guy with a giant mech suit to match his gigantic ego

[waxen oracle]

🤣🤣🤣

[pale copper]

But then I’d probably have to follow his memories in Eden probably and imagine how chaotic that would be

[waxen oracle]

I think not adding the king right away was a good choice, have we saved or restored or met the king technically speaking our purpose would have been fulfilled

Corvus I think you’re onto something

[pale copper]

But...I wanna see big man. The one and only too

[waxen oracle]

Maybe the kings memory would be showing us what really happened, how did darkness overcame the kingdom

[pale copper]

He’s kinda scary but in a beautiful way

Liek a flashback?

Kinda liek in sanctuary, there’s candles that light up a mural, so it’d be the same in Eden.

[waxen oracle]

I was wondering what the prophecy had to do with the origins but I was late to realized that maybe the prophecy is about the child that was gonna help restore the kingdom

Yes like a flashback

[pale copper]

Each elder has their own personality, what do u think his was like if u were to meet him >_>

[waxen oracle]

Oh! Imagine the king taking our light and wings and he’s like “thank you, you’re purpose has been fulfilled” and we go to sleep

[pale copper]

[solar relic]

i’d imagine the king to try and keep a cruel and prideful exterior but inside he’s still a scared child with insecurities

[pale copper]

Aww

[waxen oracle]

He’s probably some sort of counselor or like someone who looks after you like a care taker

[pale copper]

I think it’d be cool if there was liek a secret area in Eden where u could meet him, but the thing is, even though it lets u in, you shouldn’t go bc you’ll “die” early bc he takes all your light. But each time you go back it’s like a different reaction from him?

[waxen oracle]

Lately after I’m done farming I let my kid take a nap, so maybe the king will carry us and let us fall asleep on his lap sitting in his throne as the light flies up back to the kingdom

[solar relic]

i’d like to think the child we hug at the end is the king

[pale copper]

Sleep on big mans lap

[waxen oracle]

I used to think the kid at the end of Eden was the first kid who tried to get to king

[pale copper]

I think it’s us looking at out past selves before we became who we are now

[zealous cargo]

This what it looks like when the turret is activated

[pale copper]

Wait that’s a turret?

[waxen oracle]

That also makes sense

[zealous cargo]

Yes

[sly kestrel]

Who said that

[pale copper]

Heck

[zealous cargo]

Idk

[sly kestrel]

Ok

[zealous cargo]

Rumors

[undone harbor]

That's a king statue

There were turrets in concept arts but they didn't make it into the game

[pale copper]

I’m such an idiot it even disappoints me

[sly kestrel]

Well, there were a lot of turret concepts but their main weapon was on the head part, not a single focused canon that faces one direction and can’t move

[undone harbor]

It's ok most of us don't know that either

Yep those are king statues

[sly kestrel]

Think about it, how will that defend anyone if it jus looks at ONE single point

[zealous cargo]

Ikr I'm also confused

[undone harbor]

I wonder if turrets exist what will it target?

[zealous cargo]

Probably krills

[sly kestrel]

That thingy coming out of the statue prolly isn’t a turret, and who knows that whole turret concept that I’ve seen was prolly scrapped a long time ago

I jus thought it was weird to call that thingy a turret

[hushed steeple]

@pale copper your message on how the statue looks is not family friendly at all, please delete it

[pale copper]

Bc once the gate is opened krill appear?

Mk

Lol

[undone harbor]

Though the thing on the face of the statue looks like a power diamond

[sly kestrel]

They may exist currently but there’s no guarantee, it was only a concept

[pale copper]

Ye

[undone harbor]

So it might be used to power something

Maybe turrets

[zealous cargo]

I think the gate has nothing to do with the krills coming out

[pale copper]

Oh?

[zealous cargo]

It's more of game balance (?)

I think lore wise krills are there already

[bitter shale]

lads, why do you think isle got only one candle, vault got 6 while other realms have three?

[pale copper]

Well yes, but they come once the gate is oppened’ like the sound of the gate woke them up

[undone harbor]

Yeah and the krills conveniently come at that time

[bitter shale]

seems like isle and vault is special. but why?

why isle got one candle? why vault got 6m

[undone harbor]

Well yes, but they come once the gate is oppened’ like the sound of the gate woke them up
@pale copper seems like so
They look like they're sleeping under the ground

[bitter shale]

also why other realms got three

[pale copper]

MHm. In the second area, once u enter, the krill emerges from the murky waters/ oil. So I think they sleep in the water/oil

[bitter shale]

i mean if you get near the krill spawn point you will be slapped by wind wall

they are indeed reside under the oil

[undone harbor]

Isle is less important and vault is the most

[solar relic]

oh i have a theory on that but

[undone harbor]

God krills are oily

[zealous cargo]

Well yes, but they come once the gate is oppened’ like the sound of the gate woke them up
@pale copper we can't really say if krills have senses but I agree

[solar relic]

im lazy to type itout

[bitter shale]

:<

[solar relic]

i can give a summarised version

[undone harbor]

Please type it out-

Y e s

[bitter shale]

i think it have some connection with isle symbolizing birth while vault symbolizing old age

still idk how to connect it

[solar relic]

it could represent their allegiances (based on that whole mess of leitmotifs i posted some time ago)

[hushed steeple]

Anyone full theory about what's happened in sky realms?

[bitter shale]

birth is the start of a soul life

old age is when everything nearing the end???

[waxen oracle]

Now you have my attention lol

[undone harbor]

But why does valley has 3 red candles tho

[bitter shale]

Anyone full theory about what's happened in sky realms?
diamond went boom, castle goes yeet, people goes rip

[undone harbor]

Yeah that

[bitter shale]

But why does valley has 3 red candles tho
not red, it because the lightning there

[sly fractal]

@hushed steeple you might be able to check pins?

[solar relic]

isle - 1 as they were outcasted from the other elders
prairie, forest, gw - 3 as they were all against the king
valley - 3 as the twins and vault elder were on the king’s side
vault - 6 to symbolise all the elders; the vault elder worked with all of them

[undone harbor]

Maybe candles were like the "I trust and like this person" system

[undone harbor]

Everyone vote for eachother by putting candles

[junior robin]

This thing terrified the hell out of me I swear

[pulsar iris]

Guys guys

Well first morning everyone

[undone harbor]

Idk I love its fuzziness

[pulsar iris]

Hope y’all slept well or had a good day 🥰

[pale copper]

Maybe the isle elder had only one to represent the fact he was alone. Weather he put it there himself, or his followers or smthn

[solar relic]

ok that was enough brainpower for my single braincell for tonight even though i didn’t do much happy theorising everyone

[pulsar iris]

I had a dream about Karen if y’all wanna hear about it

[undone harbor]

GO AHEAD

Karen omg-

[pale copper]

Pfft

[undone harbor]

Megan
It's Megan

[pulsar iris]

I was messing with krill when I realized it couldn’t fly. But then things got intense..

When it saw you it didn’t do the red flash open thing and stand up. Instead it’s face opened up like a flower and the red dot was in the middle. Once it saw you it was over cause it DID NOT LEAVE YOU ALONE. There were arrows shot at you when you run on ground and if you tried to fly away it would knock you out of the sky. It would try to impale you with it’s many legs if you got too close. I was carrying a friend like a football cause we just couldn’t get away! It’s scream was louder and more terrifying than the regular krill.. it was also smarter...

[undone harbor]

What is this horror

[sly fractal]

krill 2.0

[junior robin]

OH MY GOD-

[pale copper]

OMGGG

That’s terrifying

My brain is telling me to draw that

[pulsar iris]

You can’t fly cause the arrows were poison

You could not hide because she will remember.

Only way was to have someone else be her prey while you tried to escape

[pale copper]

Damn

[sly fractal]

weren't we talking about having a sky australia last night? yeah put that in there

[pulsar iris]

Think her her as... a giant centepede with rlly long spider legs

[pale copper]

So her mouth opened like the demigorgon or whatever from stranger things?

[pulsar iris]

Yes!

[pale copper]

Spooky

[pulsar iris]

But before she sees you she looks like a walking krill

Then the eye is pushed back and her face opens up

[pale copper]

Walking???

Eeeee

[pulsar iris]

Yea Karen couldn’t fly

She didn’t need to though

Hold on

[pale copper]

That’s real funky

Mk

[pulsar iris]

I’m going to sketch the face out to give you guys an idea

[zealous cargo]

Does she run though?

[pulsar iris]

YES!

SHE WAS VERY FAST

[pale copper]

I think I have a good idea of that..

[pulsar iris]

TERRIFYINGLY FAST

[pale copper]

Knojexojoejox

Sonic speed

[zealous cargo]

[pulsar iris]

Now that I draw this out I can rlly see how terrifying it is

Oh Christ

[rose gorge]

oh damn

[zealous cargo]

It looks like a demogorgon

The head

[pulsar iris]

Yea just like one I think

Like the one from stranger things?

[zealous cargo]

Yup

But this one has ton of legs

[pulsar iris]

She gets floofy when she sees sky kids

To be seen by her is to know true despair

[zealous cargo]

So the one above is the neutral state?

[rapid lynx]

Does it stab moths with its head thingys

[zealous cargo]

O.o

[pulsar iris]

Yep just a walking krill

Her legs are for stabbing

[rapid lynx]

Oh

[pulsar iris]

She shoots arrows from the head

[rapid lynx]

Wait it shoots them

[pulsar iris]

Ye, she had arrows, they poison

So you can’t fly away

Only run

[rapid lynx]

Can moths even be poisoned

[pulsar iris]

Poison water

[rapid lynx]

Oh

[pulsar iris]

Great though, the home trick still worked lmao

[rose gorge]

even the most mighty of foes falls before it

[pulsar iris]

Now that I see her, I hope she’s like... an elder manta, you can see Each but cannot interact

[fast jasper]

just realized that daleth gets taller through out the murals in the cave

[sturdy olive]

hey y'all I've been poking through the lore channel (this is so cool!! great ideas!) and I was wondering if anyone had specifics as to who/what King is? they're referenced a whole bunch so I kind of have the gist but does anyone know where the info originated (like concept art, statement, etc)?

[near moss]

uhhhhhh king is a figure that you see in a lot of images and stuff

like in eden and in orbit you can see statues of him

There are 7 stars that fall to the clouds and there are only 6 elders so some people theorize that King was the 7th star, or that there was an Eden elder

You can look at like concept art and the canon sky lore doc for more info I'm not well versed in him myself

[pulsar iris]

@sturdy olive are you new here?

[sturdy olive]

Ah very cool! thanks :D Ik there's a lot of theories I'm j kind of curious as to like,, where they originated yk

[warm breach]

Have you checked lore moff doc?

[sturdy olive]

@pulsar iris to lore channel? somewhat, but I've poked around before and read up on things in the doc

[pulsar iris]

Lemme see if I can find you the lore moff doc

[sturdy olive]

tyy!!

[warm breach]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[pulsar iris]

Ah thanks @warm breach

[warm breach]

Anytime

[sturdy olive]

thank you! I'll take a look :p

[pulsar iris]

So like, I know journey and sky are two separate games. But they lore is extremely parallel... are they connected ?

[rose gorge]

i think sky is like

a spiritual successor

[lethal stump]

their lore is not connected

they’re not in the same universe

[short owl]

for legal reasons

[mossy vector]

I have rather dark ish lore; ||sky is the afterlife.||
||-we don't eat, we collect||
||-we don't die, we fly||
||and most importantly we can communicate with the dead. (spirits)||

[near moss]

we do die though

or at least a lil bit

when you lose all your light and spirits, like in eden

[short owl]

So we're tiny reapers, taking the form of children to put souls at ease?

[near moss]

ooh that'd be interestnig

Taking light to the spirits to bring them to eden can fit into that

[tranquil cedar]

wad if we, the players are the reborn of the king?

[short owl]

And being friendly and fun for the same reason, as occasionally we may need to tire out a soul before they're ready to come with us, but also making sure to listen to their most important stories so that the soul is never forgotten completely?

Stories of family and loss, joy and sadness, miracles and horrors, fun and responsibility

[strange parrot]

I really like that theory

[pulsar iris]

so does that mean we go to eden to drop them off?

[vestal glade]

Actually in the first thing you see when you get sky you see a person saying”I” and “our” and they say they “summoned” us to the world of sky to help after the downfall

Hinting towards not a afterlife but a mission

And the season of prophecy really gives a lot of hints for lore!

In the wall art/ stories

[near moss]

yeah I think that one is more probable and

If Sky was the afterlife it'd have to be purgatory since Orbit would be heaven

[vestal glade]

Yeah but when you get reborn you are the same with all cosmetics and progress. I think it’s more like not accepting your own fall. It’s like we are all determined to help sky

Also a thing that I feel is overlooked is that the spirits of our ancestors could have children. You see a child in the sight seeing spirit in valley

[near nest]

Speaking of purgatory, this seems like it could kinda be connected to sky (it’s from dante)

Like we could draw connections from the realms to the levels of purgatory, not that it’s actually canonically inspiration or anything lol

Plus eden is at the top

[vestal glade]

True

Also in the mural in the cave of prophecy after trial of fire there is a triangle with the creatures flying at the top and there is a large glowing figure at the top. I think it might be Eden

[hushed steeple]

In the credits we see some other stars and some of them get visited by light creatures too.

You See particels flying there

[vestal glade]

Where is MatPat when you need him lmao

[hushed steeple]

Ia this a spoiler?...im confuse

[urban ginkgo]

It’s an Easter egg that new players should find out on their own, as it’s more fun that way! I remember my excitement when someone led me there the first time

[hushed steeple]

I see..that was suprising me

[pure fjord]

Uhhh have ya'll found the cutscenes that show up when you go near the added lights in the prophecy area from after the fire trial?

[vestal glade]

Yes

[pulsar iris]

Cute video, love the song up over it 🥰

[lyric isle]

I did Fire Trial
time to dissect murals aaaaaaaaa

[sacred rapids]

out with the price in with me

[queen locust]

jouske is now propaganda-

[sacred rapids]

sometimes you just gotta be

[lyric isle]

so is war machine krill debunked you think

the way krill are displayed in that mural

[queen locust]

Likely?

[lyric isle]

if so that kills off a very large percentage of my theories

[queen locust]

There was still ancient tech displayed on the mural though

Like the Vault's elevator

[lyric isle]

yes

but the way krill are presented is making me scared as I have so many theories based off krill being machines but as of this if so I’ll have to rethink literally everything

[queen locust]

I think you can still work with those- I'm sure they still have merit

Like- how about you go over one of them now Voluntary?

[lyric isle]

They come off as mechanical to me

[queen locust]

Paths and movements and the sounds they make and stuff?

[lyric isle]

I had this rough idea once that it was to do with
saying the war was about whether to continue with industrialisation or not
and they were built by the pro-industrial side as some sort of incredibly elaborate weaponry

though that idea’s not my best at all

that’s very shaky

[queen locust]

Shaky indeed if krill were older than the industrialization itself

Key word is if

[supple sluice]

War machine krills? Interesting 🍵

Idk what's going on but im intrigued-

[vapid comet]

Anyone know where the current traveling spirit can be found?

[pulsar iris]

@vapid comet check the two door cave in isle of dawn

[lyric isle]

@supple sluice That’s been my headcanon for a very very long time
but it’s at high risk of collapsing

[pulsar iris]

Did you guys see the picture of Karen I made?

[lyric isle]

I just want confirmation on this as I’m really worried

[pulsar iris]

I mean it might work? Stranger things have happened in sky and the krill do sound mechanical

[supple sluice]

Yeah, and it'd make sense too...but my question is why would they have a war over technology? If that's the case then why is Valley's citadel filled with those orbs that moves around?

[lyric isle]

I’m unsure on that.

I’ll think about that

[supple sluice]

Yeah, and i do think that if there was war it explains why all of sky fell...

[pulsar iris]

I saw an earlier theory where half the elders felt like they were sucking the life out of sky and decided to go to war over it

[lyric isle]

just what if that single deep-rooted belief of mine is disproved just like that

[pulsar iris]

(Supports the two shield theory)

[lyric isle]

I’ll be hopeless

[supple sluice]

Oh, the two shield theory?

What's that?

[pulsar iris]

!!! :3333

I’m glad you asked

[lyric isle]

Basically
the fact that there are two different shields implies a civil war

[pulsar iris]

So in wasteland there are two types of shields found on the battlefield

[supple sluice]

Oh...! OH

Okay!

[lyric isle]

the war is such a fun topic jendjdjcjdjjf

[pulsar iris]

I’m behind the civil war theory

[supple sluice]

Tbh i thought they corresponded to different ranks... Cuz the helmets are different for each rank...

The scout mask, the captain mask, the Warrior mask... All different

But yeah, they could all totally be part of different armies

[pulsar iris]

I mean... look at this sheild for example. The sun definitely was on the defensive. So the diamonds were the attackers. Forest elder had diamond boom civil war

That was the case everyone uses the same weapons but different shield signs?

[lyric isle]

I lean towards ‘war is about usage of light and light creatures and power diamonds’

[pulsar iris]

Feels like they were fighting each other

[supple sluice]

All my lore knowledge is surface level yall will have to forgive me X3

Hm

[lyric isle]

The way the diamonds are made is...pretty gruesome, to say the least

[supple sluice]

Also.... Now that i think about it... Have we talked about why the captain has a firework staff of all things??

[pulsar iris]

Yea... and it seems like half where okah with it, half weren’t? Or at least how they went about it

[supple sluice]

Hm

[pulsar iris]

I don’t think so...

Let’s see

The firework staff resembled the staff of the isle elder right?

[supple sluice]

Yeah

[pulsar iris]

🤔🤔

And it seems like all the elders possessed an object that represented their role in sky...

[supple sluice]

Mhm

[pulsar iris]

So yea why would the captain have it?

[supple sluice]

Imo i thought it'd be to distract krills but like-i doubt they work like that in the actual game

Unless if krills adapted to not care about fireworks-

[pulsar iris]

I remeber watching a beta video where beta testers begged to have it added

[supple sluice]

Cuz again, a long time has passed...

Op

Interesting

[pulsar iris]

So it wasn’t apart of original lore in that way maybe? But since an elder has it... and we don’t get any elder items besides that...

[supple sluice]

Yeah...

Hmmm

What happened in the Isle again?

... Wait...

[pulsar iris]

Isle elder has a stick

That sends the birds to lead you to eden

[supple sluice]

Ah

I didn't notice the birds led you there! Omg that's amazing-

Anyway-

Was somehow thinking maybe staffs control light?? But idk

[pulsar iris]

There is also a light staff come to think of it..

Remember laughing light catcher?

[supple sluice]

Oh yeah!

[pulsar iris]

They caught the light with the stick

[supple sluice]

And I'm assuming those lights were collected to make more butterflies-

[lyric isle]

ok random thought

[pulsar iris]

Yea that would make sense

[lyric isle]

Remember Captain with the staff too

the fireworks are prob made out of channelled light

[supple sluice]

Ooooooyea

[lyric isle]

and used as a signal maybe

[pulsar iris]

!!! So a staff to collect and a staff to emit!

[supple sluice]

That could work! That could definitely work!

Cuz you can aim fireworks too!

[pulsar iris]

!!!!

[supple sluice]

Okay then! Nice!

[pulsar iris]

We did it guys

We solved sky

[supple sluice]

Yesh, staffs are totally key to everything-

Pfff in all seriousness- the captain has it to do stuff like send messages

[livid valley]

captain

[pulsar iris]

Makes sense for that too

That’s got me thinking about the other items in sky as well

[livid valley]

the firework guy?

[supple sluice]

Yeah the firework guy

[pulsar iris]

Yea

[livid valley]

looks like a cewmate to me

[supple sluice]

Omg yeah I'm thinking about every hecking cosmetic-

Like the chair-

[livid valley]

wow so amazing

[pulsar iris]

The chair....

🤔🤔

[supple sluice]

Like... There aren't chairs anywhere else in Sky

[pulsar iris]

!!!!!

Just benches!!!

[supple sluice]

All of them are set in stone (Haha pun)

O-

[pulsar iris]

Haha

[supple sluice]

And the vault does seem like a place where most of the innovating happens? Like the telekinesis fellas?

[livid valley]

this only chaitr is made of wood right

[supple sluice]

So yeah a guy could totally be like "Yanno what? We need portable benches" and everyone goes :0

[pulsar iris]

From what I can tell maybe and probably the harp too

[supple sluice]

Oh yeah, those guys

[pulsar iris]

Telekinesis... levitate

[supple sluice]

Yeah... Lots of magic going on

[pulsar iris]

Did everyone in sky have access to this place as well? Didn’t seem very homey to me. More like a university library

[supple sluice]

Makes sense, vault is the most fantastical realm out of all of them with s p a c e

[livid valley]

how does the chair went from one to a table with 3 other chairs

[supple sluice]

Yeah, it's in an odd place...

[pulsar iris]

LET ME SEE YOUR SECRETS VAULT

[supple sluice]

Like WHY ARE YOU IN A SCARY WAR ZONE

[livid valley]

weirdos having such power be suddenly like they are too tired and needed a magical portable chair

[pulsar iris]

...maybe the war zone was to defend the vault

[supple sluice]

Okay but like-... Now that i think about it... Since Forest elder made the diamond that went to the vault...

[pulsar iris]

We dumb kids we can’t even access in there

[supple sluice]

.... And there's arks in wasteland...

[pulsar iris]

Half that knowledge is just going to sit there

Hm?

[supple sluice]

I'm just thinking that surely the elders met at some point

[pulsar iris]

Yea I think so as well

[livid valley]

of course whats the point of making all the shrines of other elders in the vault eh?

[pulsar iris]

Cause the first diamond factory was in forest, but wasteland has one as well

Yes yes!

[supple sluice]

Oml that too

Hm...

[pulsar iris]

Ok but like

What do you guys think about the time travel theory

[supple sluice]

What's that theory...?

Sndjfjfif

[livid valley]

time travel

:))

[pulsar iris]

Basically, it’s a theory that every realm in sky is same place at different points in history

[supple sluice]

Ohhhh

[pulsar iris]

So like technically the elders never met, but they remembered each other

[supple sluice]

That'd be interesting but also if that was the case why can we traverse the entire game without using portals

Do clouds have time travel powers or something??

[pulsar iris]

True, and also when the stars fell it wasn’t one after the other, they fell at the same time

[supple sluice]

Yeah, and the mural depicts each realm being made togetherish

[pulsar iris]

They could? I mean we are tp into the realms as well

[livid valley]

home is weird

[supple sluice]

Yeah, why is it even a thing

I get its a hub for the game but lore wise why is it there

[pulsar iris]

Home is a liminal space. A cosmic bus stop on a highway to nowhere

[supple sluice]

Kstkfktjt also

... Who do you guys think called to us to begin our journey?

[pulsar iris]

Either Megan or the king

[supple sluice]

Cuz they sent us to home

Instead of right into the Isle

Who's Megan?

[pulsar iris]

True!!!!

Back in beta kids used to go straight to isle

[supple sluice]

O-oooo

[pulsar iris]

Megan is the mega bird, goddess of sky

[supple sluice]

Oh- i see

It'd make sense for her to pluck a skykid from the sky and be like "Your ancestors screwed up, pls help them"

[pulsar iris]

Yes but also

I saw another theory here a day ago

[supple sluice]

Oh?

[pulsar iris]

That said the king called us to save the lost stars

We save the stars and give our light and die

But we are secretly powering the diamond in eden

[supple sluice]

O-

[pulsar iris]

The kids are saved, we die, but come back

The stars are in danger again

[supple sluice]

.... I Just had another thought

[pulsar iris]

We leave for eden, lose more stars to the diamond, die again, rinse and repeat

?

[livid valley]

repeat dying

[supple sluice]

... Uh

So

Usually in the game when we see Eden from a distance Eden is right ahead of us

But Wasteland is off center...

Why is that?

[pulsar iris]

🤔🤔I guess it is huh...

The clouds block?

[supple sluice]

Hmmm

[pulsar iris]

Can’t even see eden from wasteland

[livid valley]

the angles

[pulsar iris]

Cause it’s like a huge dip down

[supple sluice]

Yeah... I think Eden is like to the left of where we fall... So...

[pulsar iris]

Can you see eden from forest?

[livid valley]

going from valley to GW you can notice were going down

[supple sluice]

Yeah

When you fly into the forest eden is right ahead i think

[pulsar iris]

Ahh okay

[supple sluice]

... Also... Wait...

If Wasteland is off center, is Vault just.... Casually long enough to recover the distance between Eden and Wasteland???

If so then vault is HUGE

OH

Wait

Nvm

I was gonna say maybe there were 2 routes to Vault but from what i can tell that's not true

The Wasteland's intro text sounds like Vault is in there only...

[pulsar iris]

2 routes?

[supple sluice]

Yeah

One that doesn't result in being yeeted into a storm

[pulsar iris]

Where is second way in?

[livid valley]

y?

[supple sluice]

It doesn't exist

That's why i said nvm ksfjdjdkd

[pulsar iris]

Oh mb lmao

I just realized though

[supple sluice]

It's okay

[pulsar iris]

We as a species only show up on one Mira

*mural

At the beginning

Where we are dark creatures, with golden wings

[livid valley]

i dont belive i am some living creature or something(sky)

[pulsar iris]

Hm?

What are we

[livid valley]

something

quite a number of theories already have said what we could have made of for example clay,ash, etc

[supple sluice]

Hmmmm

[pulsar iris]

Oh wow like reanimated statues ?

[supple sluice]

.... Wait

......... Has anyone asked if we are ancestors in a way too?

Cuz like- we can hold and interact with things but they all dissappear when we're injured

[livid valley]

i do not remember

[pulsar iris]

Ancestors to whom

[supple sluice]

Dkskfkr i really did just pull a "what if we're all dead"-

Which is a nvm cuz well-

Actual dead folk are transparent and more blue-colored

We're not

Dmkdckfkf unless if our friendship has ascended with them

[pulsar iris]

I saw a theory that was like

Everyone is dead already

But we guide the dead to heaven

[supple sluice]

Oh?

That does make sense

[pulsar iris]

As sky kids, bring the stars homeeee

[livid valley]

were dead like 10 times more

[pulsar iris]

We live in their realm to make them more comfortable, do things that are involved with their lives to get closure

Then we take the light they give and use it to fly to eden

Like a spirit faer

[livid valley]

faer?

[pulsar iris]

Yeah like the game

[supple sluice]

Oh! That game! I love that game

.... Yanno i do kinda get the war idea (iknowweareinanewtopicbutshush)

Cuz Sky is a spiritual successor of Journey and in Journey things fall apart when their scarf powers suddenly become scarce

[pulsar iris]

Lmaooo ... (spirit faer is good but it makes me incredibly sad so I’m currently taking a break rn 😅)

So you’re saying the light creatures started to decline?

[supple sluice]

Well... Probably not

[teal orbit]

well, in some places, yes,
in other places no

[supple sluice]

Cuz light creatures are everywhere in sky

[livid valley]

indeed

[pulsar iris]

Also I like how that’s a reoccurring theme with tgc games. The darkness in flower was caused by over industrialization destabilizing the natural world

[supple sluice]

But not in darker places like Eden and the wastes

Yeah, industrial bad 👌

Jkjk

[livid valley]

eden have birds flying into pipes all right

[pulsar iris]

Pipes away from the smog and smoke

[supple sluice]

Wait really? I never noticed those

[teal orbit]

i think that was meant to be a good thing.. meow...

[pulsar iris]

Yea they take you all the way to eden, even after you die

[livid valley]

:))

[supple sluice]

Ohhh! The rebirth sequence

[pulsar iris]

Bords never leave you

[supple sluice]

Right right sjdjfjrjr

[pulsar iris]

Yea birds were send to guide you home

[teal orbit]

after all, their hive mind made us...

[supple sluice]

Mhm...

[pulsar iris]

(I think it helped too cause lot of beta folks had trouble figuring out where to go)

[supple sluice]

(ah pfff)

[teal orbit]

rlly?

[pulsar iris]

If you ever lost, look for birdies