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then i must try h a r d e r
am i crazy or does the big ol crystal in eden kinda looks like an anatomical human heart
like you can make out the left and right atria, and the left (when looking at it from the front, it looks like it is the right) atria is even thicker than the right atria which is how actual hearts normally are


the what? 
@ashen bloom that belongs in #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat
the candle arrangment for valley twins statues is quite interetsing isnt
separated, but one at the same time
looks like either a fat manta or some sorta shield thing
does look like a symbol
fat manta
agree on fat manta
its kinda painful to take a good picture of the whole area sksk
also what are they doing? seems like the whole crew doing some kind of summoning, even our skid helping too
they are doing that before summoning the final murals

m a g i c?
why they need to do this on final mural only?
other murals didnt need to do this kind of move
iirc
maybe it gets more difficult to do prophecy things as more of it is discovered?
The fates have spoken
skybot why must u be so cryptic
r they a skykid or a spirit
a spirit looking through a door window peephole thing
skybot what do you know about the lore
pl s
h e l p
maybe the power of the four elements is so powerful together that they ahve to channel it somehow
mmmm maybe
Isn't that just them trying to show the skid the rest of the murals-
but they dont do that for the other things
also what are they doing? seems like the whole crew doing some kind of summoning, even our skid helping too
trying to touch the rock 101
was the lore packed in the last one too much for just Jackal Jesus to handle
XDDD ye s
weve had like 10 different theories on that one mural
the theorizing was too much to handle
indeed, but why they have to do taht move to summon the final murals when the other murals are just... appeared without any special move from the prophets?
oh-
wifi so bad it showed the other messages late 
rip
Hello lore chat! What chu loring bout today?
were trying to figure out why things are thigns
Oki
also kakashi pigeon human-manta centipede megan
Uh huh
so not much
oh ye i got a glimpse of this thing when im dying in eden and my soul somehow went underground
b l u e?
that blue streak is my spirit btw
every time u say kakashi I cri he was my favorite and his back story so sad
ngl same
this kakashi isnt as... not cursed?
mmmm what are those things under the diamond? four pillars?
and the uh
elevator
i think
v a u l t
its the vault
does that mean diamond was originally build on vault or what
Looks more like the big ol window thingies
its kinds confusing ngl
Rather than the statues
vaults in the mountain
Ye what I said
:< its kinda sus innit
creatures

manta juicer goes brr
ominous
this lady
mop mom yes
She made a diamond with some rocks and her big ol starry hammer
hmm
But it's a common theory that diamonds were mass-produced
In factories in Wasteland and in Forest
And then vault lady gave one to You ™
i dont think diamonds necessarily caused the war tho bc the elder has both a sun shield and a diamond spear
in gw
something good invented will be always be mass produced
i guess she made a few first till factories
light creature rights lmao
y wouldnt they like it tho
also the problem is thta gw elder has both things
tst=...
Two Shields Theory
o
lol.
That's what the juicers are for- kind of
If they had unlimited light, they'd be juicing them for all eternity
which is all kinds of painful
If you're a being that's literally composed of light at least
but creatures of light are able to give off light without being juiced
unless we juice them
They had to concentrate the light into something
everythime we get light
interesting
You can imagine that the Ancestors didn't have that luxury
our flap mechanic is kinda like water rocket
That's why the diamonds exist
we ejected light whenever we flap, can be seen whenever we flap our cape become blueish and our light depleted from our wedge
a fancier jet pack 
well they seemed to have created candles since who else put those there and if they get a creature of light to even go near it (which wouldnt be a problem since they can just call them over no problem) then u can presumably light ur candle
which then likely stays lit
There's wind and things that can put it out dawg
t r ue
If it's candles- never expect them to last-
have you ever saw the candles melt
Plus they aren't exactly a sustainable source of light
the only candles that actually runs out are those candles on benches
Especially if we're having to light them up every now and then
but were talking about sky world not real life world
how does the only bench one melt while the others dont
but when that happens they can get a manta to presumably willingly come over and light it for u
different kind of candle
maybe they can secretly fire bending, idk lmao
nah
Game mechanic Meowphecy?
id like some lorewise stuff
but like
its most likely the same sort of light
also
when u relieve a spirits memory they leave behind a little was light thing
dude are you really willing to kill a person for light-
Perhaps the bench candle is just made out of weaker wax? If that makes sense
So it actually melts when burnt unlike the other candles we use
They do that because they're spirits
but they can be called with manta call
it is a dif candle
but what if they already had it
the spirits are capable of magic
why not light
I don't really have an answer for that but it's probably best to think of the diamonds as some kind of battery
I mean, do we even light up the candles we use as currency? They could just be made out of weaker material (like how money is made with paper etc) and the candles that give wax orbs everyday are a special magic candle
In Valley there's also a line of candles we cant light
is it in hidden corridor valley temple?
also ya in valley (the windiest place in sky world) the candles are always lit
on the slidey part
It doesn't stay lit, and it's made for other functions- it isn't necessarily used for light
lit
The diamonds I mean
and theres light fragment things just lying around
all the time
light seems to be renewable
and very reliabel
Hey yeah are those things from the race even something leftover by the spirits
theyre still light things
Or is it seriously just some game mechanic
even if its "just a game mechanic" its a cannon part of the game
also butterflies
they can most certainly be called over
oh those butterflies also got juiced
tbf tho they are trapped in pots
but this method is inconvenient
Anyway, if we believe that the Ancestors fell from the same place that the Elders did, they likely also knew what an infinite source of energy felt like
bc they rnt directly powering the diamonds
And you can assume that this is something that they were doing in order to reach that level again
When you're yeeted into an unfamiliar place with unfamiliar materials, of course they'd start a little slow from scratch
juicing wouldnt be a likely first thought
Those diamonds likely aren't their final product
And you're right- it wouldn't be- that's how advancing through a civilization works
There was probably a time where they were satisfied with the harmony they've found
At least- that's how I think of it
A self-sustaining, reliable source of energy- that's probably what the Eden Diamond was supposed to be
but having like a pet manta that followed u would be a much more efficient option
try telling that to those people-
In fact- maybe some of them realized that and midway they were like 'hey MAYBE we SHOULDN'T juice these semi-sentient creatures for our own gain'
Thus the War thing
though I kind of doubt that's what the war was about
^
tho how exactly would they juice these
as far as i know theyve never been shown to fo that
There was a whole mechanism in the pins if iirc
But the basic idea was that they'd concentrate the light into some kind of extract and incorporate it into a hollow shell- the diamond
Possibly made of dark material
the light became the diamond?
great now I'm craving some lemonade made of butterflies
honestly i just thought that was a fancy light XDD
and mantas
and jellyfish
Quite wrong- that thing is present in the first temple of Wasteland
But like- broken
ya..
Can't just be a fancy light if it opens gates and doors and windows and stuff
plus imagine having that thing as a chandelier
THAT'S what I call inconvenient-
XD
manta squisher
but also why would the sun shields (which were against the diamonds i think) be protecting the vault which is filled with diamonds
manta : woo woo
manta squisher : my time has come
Idk too much about the Two Shields Theory myself but yeah that does raise quite the question
magic?
ya
but if i remember correctly the sun shields face away from the vault implying that the sun shields are protecting the vaukt
vault
i thought gw elder has sun shield and diamond spear too
also why would teh spears turn around
Uh cuz he controlsthe diamond spear
AND the sun ppl?


Wait so the devs are watching us all along
always
And the poll thing we did here
theyre watching us s u f f e r

Well yeah
I was curious about the theories spinning up about fire trial.

i dislike smokey eyes very much
Me to
t h e y p a i n m e
Don’t we all love getting killed by those w h a t eyes
They look like somthing in my nightmares
Since the cave drawing at the end has the golden person who passed four trials and other white ppl laying down at the trial. Also this is origin story, I guess back to time, the spirits might have soooooo many ppl died in the trial
y would it be an origin story tho
Damn
Yea
a prophecy is a fortelling of the future (tho for us it would likely be the past since the prophets are ded)
The prophet is in
You cna see in the walls of propchecy
THE PROPHET IS IN WHAT SKYBOT
I think they mentioned it’s origin story some where when the trailer of this season came out
Yeah all spirits are dead so since tables can touch them tables are dead to or tables have special power
but i dont think its the original origin story and more of the origin story of the world we go through
vault tables?
bc part of vault is likely not even reak
Our tables
No living table.
Chat tables or chat chair
our tables w a l k
No the magical tables i
I mean we can’t really die in trials, so back to those spirits really die in trials and cannot go back to live again
we cant rlly die permanately
Tables! Don’t you seen a chat table?
in anythign
True
Yeah i call it chat chair
The mega won’t let us died
also if prophets are dead then the trials are prob not real either so we cant rlly die there either
I haven't been this scared since my creator got stuck in someone's basement 
o
Oh yea, I heard about it using table put the quest giver high up
Here comes to boy get way to intelligent that stuck creator in basement story
Panicccccc
Eeeeeee
t e l l
Oh n
Um whats the lore
what were we talking about last?
Uh about diamond spears and chairs i guess
it doesnt make sense for the gw elder to have both a sun shield and a diamond spear
So where did gw elder get sun shield
wdym
What does wdym mean
what do you mean
What does wdym mean
Lmao oki
XDDD
sun
being the elder protecting the vault would imply that hes on the diamond side
Why did gw elder get sun sheild
so why does he have a sun shield
because sun
He nas sun shield
but W H Y

Or hes stronger than praire elder
prarie be sleepin
but hes representing btoh armies
; - ;
Uh maybe hes the most technology elder
but then why does he have sun
which is against technology
and why do sun shields face outwards
which protects vault
which is full of the technology
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Uhm im out of idead
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Yes idead
vault isn’t meant to be a place full of tech
I mean it does but
It’s called vault of knowledge for a reason
but its full of diamonds
Vault is a library i yhink or place full of lanterns
and the diamonds are the peak of their knowledge
That’s not the orignal purpose for vault tho
not the original maybe but it became that
How about the vault word
its literally filled with diamonds
No wait no not the vault word
elevator ie
which is powered by a diamond
theres diamond symbols everywhere
on the elevator, the lanterns have diamonds, etc
Words from the devs
The vault is meant to hold knowledge and history to pass onto future generations before they go extinct. The elevator part is a simulation made to teach us skykids about the history of the world before we venture into Eden
Yeah vault is powered by diamonds 
Some knowledge is forbidden in the vault, it’s called the archives and it has been broken into before
The place with the most diamond tech and peak of power is valley
Wasteland intended to have more but abused production and failed miserably
but vault has the most diamodns
Uh how about forest diamond
They are lanterns, they have the most but it’s not meant to be a place that’s specifically to hold diamonds, it’s meant to hold its knowledge USING the lanterns and diamonds
Forest is a factory
Which started the diamond production
And the door thing boop showed
Where to find darkstone
in vault archive theres shelves filled with diamondy things
But archives jus holds the ones that are forbidden
proof that those are forbidden?
We have no way of looking at this forbidden knowledge, not only is there no game mechanic but also bc skykids don’t kno how to use it
No
how do we know its forbidden tho
It’s from a live-stream from the devs, when they were making the archives they gave details about it
Whats the livse teredcc
And vault isn’t a factory bc it was never intended to be, there’s no proof of it either
^
Forest and wasteland were the diamond producers
ya
So vault is a noledge
vault is a place that stores knowledge
vault=vault
Vault of knowledge
yes'=
May I ask what ur confused about
gw elder has both sun shield and diamond spear
Im confused at evreything
its a huge hole in the whole sun vs diamond theory
well the story is meant to be speculated and head cannoned on our own but
I have my theories on it
tell?
He switched sides bc he knew that it was all wrong, what the king did and the corruption the darkstone was bringing, the “sun” is actually a symbol that represents a lot of things but look at it like the symbol of the natural light. In other words, the good guy symbol, in rebellion to the king he joined with the ppl that were against him as well
There’s a lot of different theories about the war at wasteland
But most of them revolve around the fact that it wasn’t a battle with creatures
but it wouldnt make sense for him to end up holding both
Wheres darkstone
His mural represents him siding with the king and who he used to be
screenshot?
But many events later he is seen with the “sun” shield
Which I explained earlier was him joining them
Basically he jus switched sides
then why would he remain elder
but he woukdnt be in the temple, at least, since he betrayed his ppl
What’s ur theory
So his people are dead now
What do u think happened there 🤔
Everyone died a long time ago rizel
Us skykids came into the world long after everything and everyone went extinct
i agree with the whole diamonds technology knowledge thing (another thing supporting that is that diamonds symbolize intelligence) but its hard to say what exactly the war was about
So
So
There’s no saving the kingdom anymore
i feel like theres some holes that make it a bit difficult to call for sure
It’s gone
or we can gather up our numbers
AND BUILD A NEW KINGDOM
hehehEheheheh
Skykid kingdom

unfortunately thats not in the game mechanics ; - ;
tis a shame
i also think that the ultimate thing that caused the explosion thing was the prince
i n t e r e s t i n g
is the constellation the most present version of elders or their cutscene
me knowing nothing of the sky lore: :)
XDD
this is fine
XD i still dont understand the lore ur good
probsbly XDD
naughty elders get sent to the crime box
megan: BAD ELDER. SIT IN THE BOX
omgomgomg
did u guys dee that?
the mods gave the dark worm
an
OFFICIAL
name

SHADOW
[chorus sings]
i hate them tho
ya same ; - ;
sounds like a villian name
Shadow the edgehog
e d g e h o g
I don't know if they're watching tho...
it unsettles me that no adults are sent in the realms as if another kingdom is gonna be rebuilt and repopulate the realms; ik elders wont like the idea that their realms are overrided
its ruins and will always be that way
but if u bonk them u d i e
@ashen bloom Unless you are invincible where they burn to the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and technically skykids are ageless soo...........
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
HEY DO WE HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHERE THOSE BONES IN GRAVEYARD CAME FROM CAUSE THOSE ARE SOME BIG FRICKIN BONES
Dead whales
but its like. no experts, no new civilizations
its not like in our world like abysserian & sumerian & roman empire got replaced by present day continents
Big worms?
yum
oooh and crab pets and manta cars!!!


ooohhhhhh! Krill cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11



I got all depressed yesterday thinking about how the spirits and elders are all SO much taller than our Skykids... and then realized it's probably because they're skyKIDS and the spirits would be adults... and then got sad thinking about all these kids repeatedly going on what are essentially suicide missions
Dead whales
@quick grail whurtles.... not whales
= whales. That is what i meant
the giant white things that fly arround
@quick grail whurtles.... not whales
@teal orbit that is what i meant
no thats not a whurtle
a whurtle is never seen alive in game
a whurtle is a flying rl whale with a turtle head
@quick grail
Osteoglossum cetaceans > whale
Balaenoptera coalescentibus whurtle
whurtles r the dead bones in graveyard
Is the vault technically a realm compared to other places like prarie and wasteland? Or is it more of like a gateway for Eden (not that that’s its only purpose)
Hi
I'm inclined to believe that Vault is a realm of its own
Mostly because we have an Elder associated with it
My God what happened while I was off drawing a 30 year old virgin
@queen locust hmm, I get that you mean by it having an Elder associated with it. But I think it’s more of like, a guardian to it more than anything else
I'm just glad this time it's the Vault being called into question XD
why does he have eyes though
Tell me- what is it that you consider a realm though?
nothing else has eyes
What has eyes Kitten?
vault dude
They all have eyes?
What about Forest Mama then? She doesn't look like she has a mask
could you provide a picture
wait nevermind I just checked
yeaj
I think a realm is like a grand like, piece of land I guess? And when I think of vault, I just think of a structure allowing passage from wasteland into Eden
Mhm
So a realm to you would be a natural piece of land
not always
Eden being a mountain helps its case but I still standby my assertion that Vault is a valid realm
a realm is a place that has a name
Mostly because it serves an important purpose- artificial or otherwise
so the forgotten ark
I like to think that a realm is anywhere accessible with a portal from home
and the sanctuary
Forgotten Ark and Sanctuary both aren't realms
Theyre sectioned off parts of realms
extensions
They do- and so does the Cave of Prophecies, doesn't it?
mini realms, you might say
Other places inside of the realms have names, like that one place in valley
oh the cave is definitely a realm- it has a portal into it
What’s it called
citadel
Yes that^^
Citadel itself is a significant place WITHIN Valley
yes
No well, i think the vault is its own realm but not like the others. Sort of like the isle. The isle is introductory and the Vault can be considered the conclusion. Neither the isle or vault have social areas anyway
true
So why would Sanctuary and the Forgotten Ark be any different?
because they have introductions
Is that really enough for it to become a realm , I wonder
No but theyre just different sections of the realms
mI NI REALMS
Theyre all in the same space so i wouldnt consider it its own separate, even mini realm
Its just an extension
I think it’s just considered an expansion
Neither of those really have their own Elders either
Mhm
uh
well no don't they lead that part
Forgotten Ark was an accident
so they all own different things
They aren’t considered elders though
Going back to elders being a sign that a place is a realm. Wouldnt that mean that Eden isn’t considered a realm?
Eden has an Elder my guy
yeah
It does ?
oh?
also
Most people assume that the Eden Elder is the King or the Prince
Either way, they aren't around to be saved anymore
the prophecy cave is a realm because it has a portal
So the devs say
No thats not how that works
not the Prophecy part
I think a realm is a portal accessible from home
it could've just been a loading zone and some low poly cave
but that means home isn't a realm
even though there's a home portal in vault
I don’t consider home a realm its more of a social area
It isn't- it's merely a gateway to other realms
A realm in Sky plays roles- consider them story beats as part of a greater narrative
There are no home portals, Theres meditation stones but those are different
Like how one would associate Daylight Prairie with Daytime and Childhood
Or Valley with Sunset and Early Adulthood
So a realm is anything that they attached a meaning to like shown in office?
Neither Sanctuary nor the Forgotten Ark would represent a story beat
Sort of like that- but that's how I view it at least
Vault represents Night and Old Age
Eden represents Storm and Death
Yeah i agree
Both viable realms- with respective Elders to boot
I consider the vault to be a sort of conclusion as the isle is an introduction
It goes through each other realm up until the end with the elder cutscene summarizing the journey
Vault actually feels more like Catharsis than an actual conclusion- you know how some heroes in narratives come to an epiphany before facing the root of the conflict
side-note I like the Fuyuhiko profile pic
Thanks 😎😎
👀 don’t encourage her
Leave me alone
hehe
Don’t worry we know eachother, she’s obsessed
Anyway moving on from the topic of realms, im really interested in the illustrations in the cave of prophecies
Which parts of it?
I figured you were gonna say that
Butters wrote an essay about it if you'd want to read that
After the fire trial its all covered with murals and i sort of get an idea of what its supposed to mean but i cant really tie it together
Omg i wrote one too but my friend had disagreements about vault being a realm
Did you do the part with the lighting up the braziers thing-
because so far everyone's been pretty split about who glowy boi's supposed to be
Mhm
And it's been the most entertaining thing lmao
also I'd like to read that essay aasjkajkasja
I think the glowy boi is supposed to be a sky child, it resembles the shape of an unlit child
Also sure
Its a lot so
Okay so in game each light corresponds with an element. Blue being water, yellow being earth, turquoise/green being air, and red fire. The figures holding each of the lights resemble the elders of each realm in the game, minus the first and last one. The yellow one belongs to the daylight prairie, which can for the most part be spent on the ground with minimal flying. The blue light belongs to the Hidden Forest, the forest is constantly raining and has water puddles everywhere, its basically flooded. The green one belongs to the Valley of Triumph, which is a realm mostly consisting of flying, there even being a race for flight. The final one, red, belongs to the Golden Wasteland. In that realm, light aka fire is most important to players, as the water/ooze hurt the player and drain their light. There are also dragons and krabs that steal light, dragons stealing up to 8 winged lights at a time. Anyway now that the intro is out of the way, when reliving each spirits memory in the cavept1
I'm alright with large stuff- I write words in my sleep
You can see that there are two or more spirits from the regular common realms each corresponding to the given element. This makes me believe that the start of the whole world begins with the elements, and the spirits residing in the cave are the first settlers of the world, teaching the common spirits, making them belong to a constellation corresponding to what they were taught. The simplier figures, the ones who only have a head and a peopa pig bult body, represent the sky children, aka players. Players dont belong to a single realm and can travel to each realm to their own liking. Most likely represented by the mural of the child with each light surrounding them. Thus, sky children are capable of more. Spirits are confined and stuck to their single realm, only to be revisited by the player. And so, to my conclusion, the first settlers of the sky world stumbled upon spirits (who were at the time alive) and taught them each accordingly. Resulting in the split of realms, elements, and constellations.
btw pretty sure Earth light is green
Is it
I get the two mixed up
Just interchange them srry abt that
Anyway i got most of the idea from this part mostly
Tis okay- it's hard to tell with how bright the light is
The broad shouldered person resembles the wasteland elder with the red light, the twins from the valley with the turquoise light, the rounder elder of the prairie with green light, and the slender elder with the blue light.
i
LMAO
Nice
then again that's technically who she was in concepts- lurking around like an actual Slenderman
heck you're even in a forest
Oh no-
Conspiracy within a conspiracy
Slender mama
She's camouflaged

I really like this interpretation of the murals- wait are ya done-
Uhh wait lemme go see if i have more to say
Im copying and pasting from a convo with my friend
She went on about it for about 20 minutes so I’m sure there’s more
Sift through the chaos take your time XD
Yes
Okay so
This season just added- so much more to the mix
Almost too much too fast
It added more pain into my brain
Yes
I think this image resembles the first cutscene when first beginning the game and when completing eden
My brain cells are finally working for once I'm kinda grateful
Indeed
What both those events have in common is your being born, in the eden instance your being reborn
I think this mural is sort of representing that
And and
Wait a second I never noticed that image on the mural
I literally showed u </3
They’re like making sacrifices to glowing child???
Jusr shows u werent listeninf 💔
Why not
surprise- extra glowy boi
gasp
Anyway so
I would make sacrifices to some glowy child
Same
I'd sacrifice the glowy child
What a turntables 
I’d give my college tuition to glowy child
This one i think shows how sky children, players, have access to each realm and constellation, each belonging to an element, represented by the lights
god I'm gonna need to complete that freaking trial soon
Very- I'm just glad it's in Live now so it technically isn't a spoiler to me
But if you don't do it you didn't die thirty million times
I feel like after seeing that the Elders seem to be sacrificing to the glowy child, that really lowers the chances of glowy child being a symbol for playable character
elders and other spirits^
I did it and died thirty million times I just rage quit after 30 million
I dont think thats supposed to be a sort of sacrifice but maybe an offering
I didn't even done a single trial if rather just chill ya
Like how if you complete a constellation you get an ultimate gift
ye that’s what I meant, I’m just illiterate
Somehow I'm thinking it's the other way around instead
I feel like I’m constellation, you’re the one offering things, not the other way around
Yes
I'll let ya finish first tho-
This is just so confusing because before this, we were kinda left to believe that the glowy figure was you as the playable character, but now that seems unlikely
Or actually this just occurred to me, doesn’t the image depicted in that mural sort of resemble the cloudy mountains visible from every realm ?
Hold on let me show you what im talking about
I'm paraphrasing a bit from Butters's essay but the Tl;dr is that the glowy boi is the Prince, he completed the Trials, distributed them across the realms, and was crowned King
We're seeing a Prophecy that has already been fulfilled
Not one that is yet to be fulfilled
Reason I believe that is because it feels as though the murals themselves predated Eden- but the essay provides better insight on it despite needing to bepolished
I like yours too- even if I don't completely agree
Yeah yeah i can sort of see your view
Nice
The idea of it being a prophecy that already happened seems reasonable
I’ve been looking at the fire mural for a bit and I’m kinda getting the vibe that before all of the mass pollution, wastelands was a bright city with a lot of life around it
But something must’ve gone severely wrong since the other realms managed to thrive off of their given elements but they didn’t
Yeah you can see that with the mess and ruins scattered around it
Oh yeah- that's kind of a big thing- that Wasteland was a nice realm before everything
I for one believe that it was a whole forest
It looks like there was some sort of pollution they didn’t fix before it was too late, leading to the ooze
Before it was burnt down and cleared away for factories
Yeah, I feel like that was a big point of wasteland for a long time. This just gives me reason to believe that the fire was unable to be controlled and might’ve been a leading cause to the chaos
I don't necessarily believe that the element got out of control so much as they took things too far with it
Greed, and expanding and stuff along those lines
Power hungry
Yep- razing everything to the ground until you're left with nothing but a deadly ruin
that's now also infested with giant fried shrimp
Probably trying to stop any further damage by hunting down anything that dares disturb the land
Oh yeah
Ooo
See those silhouettes- they match the Wasteland Temple from a distance
I don't think it's Forest at least given that the Forest Temple doesn't have turrets off to the side
It would make a lot of sense. Especially with the release of ark that basically confirmed a lot of traders passed through and took shelter in wastelands
Off topic, I’m not saying this is true or anything but its just something i found interesting to me. sometimes i think of the realms as a progression of civilization, in prairie it was mostly land and cave, the only time we see structure is with the shrines and the elevator place. In the forest there are more structures and buildings and paths. Valley ls more civil, structures being everywhere, and even sources of entertainment (races). Things maybe got out of hand and turned into the wasteland, i just speculate that because some of the wastelands structures resemble some if the valleys near the ends of the races. But i don’t expect this to be the case i just like imagining it
I've seen that in the pinned docs somewhere that kinda alludes to that
It's a nice thing to think about
Yeah
at night unable to sleep and having my brain work for nothing but Sky lore-
Omg me too-
Sleep.
I spent like two hours looking at the murals trying to figure our what they mean
Don't worry- I'm confident that I have a decent sneep schedule-
I sneep at like
10 pm
Nice
imagine waking up at 1 am
that's where the sneep deprivation comes from
i don't go back to sleep if that happens
Oof
Imagine ur sister waking up at 4 to go to the bathroom and she sees u on ur phone 💔
anyways-
That was fun
Thinking about what we should dive into
Hmmm
Thank you random cave for giving us 10x the amount of more than before
I told you the cave was BEAUTIFUL
Fire trials alone is enough to debunk that.
freaking worms
Evil.

The fire trial was fun ur just a baby
Speaking of the Fire Trial-
Ohh ??
I'm low-key confused as to why it's a labyrinth of its own- is this to capitalize on the fear of being lost
Or the dark-
Most likely
The more you progress in the levels the harder it is to see the next candle to light
The entire thing feels like a cavalcade of phobias stuck inside a giant smoke ball
Thats how me and my friend got lost
Aye- doesn't help if you keep disconnecting
We waited like 2 days to do it because of the chat being disabled so it wasn’t too bad for us
I think making it a labyrinth was supposed to add confusion as well, like “wait didn’t i pass by here already” vibes
Then again if it capitalized on that I think it does the job
That too- cuz apparently all those previous wisdoms apply here
Resilience probably plays a role in its mazelike structure
Organized chaos- those worms have a distinct pattern to them
Kinda like krill but without the threat of actively being hunted down
Maybe patience plays a role too, if you don’t wait at a candle long enough before running off into an already lit path you’ll die
That happened to my friend
And i yelled at them for it
god you're gonna hate me if you were stuck with me for that trial
I did that a lot-
LMAO
Its cool i am a patient person for the most oart
just saying-
Seems to be very based off of krill
Yuppers
I forgot where I was going with that
Except they aren’t alive they’re fixed in a set path meant to corner you if you’re in the wrong place at the wrong time
It's krill-like but the notable difference is that you can't aggravate it
Yes, that’s true
You just die if you happened to be in its way
patience in the fire trial has a certain tact to it. wait too long & u might start off at the wrong time or never reach the destination; wait too short and the worm catches you
Omg 😳😳 krill 😳😳 fire 😳😳 WASTELAND 😳😳 ?!?!
(similar thing goes with that annoying part in the maze)
If it were based off actual krill I have a feeling Fire Proph was going easy on us
Probably
Imagine literally having things hunt you down in the dark
its already tough imo
Yeah i agree with Eye
Graveyard but you can't tell where the hell you are
& fire prophet only taught spirits to be proud without teaching them how to be resilient
The mods have to know something about this...but I'm too scared of them to ask
In the final stage if you wait too long at a candle a fire monster will just ram into u
yea in the final stage those monsters seem to sense us
does anybody have any fluffy thing theories?
i think they re AIs
Lmao you came at a nice time Gab we're talking about them now
Oop haha hai virdi
I think the creatures were simply designed to implant fear in the participants of the trial. Since it’s reminding them of a predator that they’ve come across before.
Yeah
Since the trial is set in darkness you csnt really see the monsters until it’s nearly too late
We avoided them by luck
If we go by the theory that these Trials are happening purely in a dream-like state, it could just be us simulating fear
Or what the Prophets from way back when thought best portrayed fear
I noticed that when they pass you if alot of ppl spam honk you will live so they only take a certain amount of light about just enough to kill you
Ah i see i see
Would that be saying that the krill were always bad then?
No- not that they were, but simply as things to be feared
Maybe krills were always just trying to protect something
though I wouldn't blame them if they thought they were bad like
of course you'd think that of something that goes aggro once you're in its line of sight
Plus we only ever sat down our bodies are still there so they actually might be dreams 
Shown in the wasteland, maybe they were trying to prevent the destruction of the ecosystem
Yeah that's what I was thinking of Gab-
Nice
Oh so sort of like meditation ?
I’ve always believed that they’re just protectors to other creatures in the world, so they wouldn’t start attacking spirits and light children until there was something they’d done wrong
^like polluting wastelands
I've done something wrong :0
Maybe krills were always just trying to protect something
@keen obsidian
Yeah I'm still not sure whether they where trying to protect the area or destroy it. I think their just protecting the teritory
Yeah like back then before everything eas polluted and destroyed
Yeah, there were structures there before so I’d assume the krill either just chilled or weren’t around until stuff went down
And at that point they just wanna preserve what’s left of their homes
Chilled or people have just learned how not to aggravate the big scary shrimp monster
I don't think they where there to protect BC if they where they would be every where else. Buttttt
From the places that the krill are in their habitats are places with alot of darkness so I don't think they where there when wasteland wasn't destroyed
They do just seem to thrive in dark places
So do you think at the wasteland’s peak, they were able to fend off the krill?
Then maybe they are really just protecting their territory
I think they just moved in BC there was a lot of darkness and now just lurk there krilling for food
They show agression to creatures of light like sky kids and mantas
Personally I don't think it was the krill that they were fending off against but I doubt they'd be able to take down an outright aggressive creature like a krill
Yes but they don't attack crabs do they?
They eat the crabs
Do they even have mouths
So I think they just krill for food
No they don’t attack crabs but crabs are sort of dark creatures instead
but
Do they attack crabs ?
The crabs being cooked?
Yes but they are the only other species that can do harm
Do you think krills can cook?
No
Ofc not.
Maybe some spirits lefft their oven on nay dont be mean 🙄
I'm not sure you want the shrimp to be any more grilled than it already is
Burned
I feel like, spirits wouldn’t be the type to just eat crabs, so maybe they tried to use them as a sort of bait?
Plus im not sure the gigantic krill can handle a tiny thing like that
Its like a trex trying to play the piano
I don't think they used crabs
Maybe the cooking crabs are simply a little easter egg or something
I'm not even sure that krill even need to eat to survive
It well a Easter egg
Remember the time of ancestors and now are hundreds of years apart so crabs maybe weren't around when ancestors where
But lorewise 
Oh they were- Enchantment murals show they were present
Hm
The ones in the crab-infested cave
Yeah so lorewise maybe spirits back then did eat crabs
Who else would be roasting them on spits
The flavor <3
Did they even need to eat??? Remember these aren't humans sky kids don't even eat 
If anything I think spirits just found fondness in crabs, like the spirit in ark that researched them and was obsessed
Skykids and Ancestors are fundamentally different
So I don't think we should rule out that Ancestors couldn't eat just yet
WAIT
Yes but ancestors and humans are also fundentally different 
Well i cant really think of any other explanation for the crab kebab
Ok I wait
THE SKYCHILDREN HAVE MOUTHS
What
THEY CAN MAKE NOISES WITH THEM
Where.
For beeping
U mean the HONKS
That- doesn't necessarily mean they have mouths
Wait no they don’t?
Is food even in sky 
um..
Crab being grilled is food
Maybe the noises are just there for the emote effect
H O W D O T H E Y M A K E T H E N O I S E T H E N
The shh emote can simply be a motion to tell someone to be quiet
I dont think its meant for the lore
Game mechanics
mouth
That- we're still tryna figure out lore-wise
No
I don’t think that sky children would be able to eat. Especially being that they’re literal light
mouth
Remember SKY KIDS DONT NEED MOUTHS TO MAKE SOUNDS . THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM HUMANS
WHAT
But we know for certain they don't have mouths- maskless things


