#lore-discussion-spoilers

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ashen bloom
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this isnt a drawing i expected to make

queen locust
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Neither have I but it almost makes me feel sorry for Megan

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Almost

ashen bloom
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then i must try h a r d e r

west basin
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am i crazy or does the big ol crystal in eden kinda looks like an anatomical human heart pEyes pEyes pEyes like you can make out the left and right atria, and the left (when looking at it from the front, it looks like it is the right) atria is even thicker than the right atria which is how actual hearts normally are pFIRE pFIRE pFIRE

ashen bloom
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o

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hello?

west basin
ashen bloom
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hi

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hath thou seen the cursed one yet..

west basin
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the what? stickerHuh

ashen bloom
bitter shale
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lmaoooaoaooa

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kakashi bird--

ashen bloom
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forgive me for i have sinned

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yes

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unfortunately

lethal stump
ashen bloom
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srry

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a n y wa y s

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l o r e

bitter shale
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separated, but one at the same time

ashen bloom
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looks like either a fat manta or some sorta shield thing

livid valley
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does look like a symbol

bitter shale
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fat manta

livid valley
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agree on fat manta

bitter shale
ashen bloom
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giving power?

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doing some sorta magic rhing

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like the emote

bitter shale
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they are doing that before summoning the final murals

ashen bloom
bitter shale
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hmmm

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yeah but

why

ashen bloom
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m a g i c?

bitter shale
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why they need to do this on final mural only?

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other murals didnt need to do this kind of move

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iirc

ashen bloom
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maybe it gets more difficult to do prophecy things as more of it is discovered?

pastel brookBOT
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The fates have spoken

ashen bloom
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skybot why must u be so cryptic

bitter shale
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skybot pfp is a skid opening their eyes... is this some kind of foreshadowing?

ashen bloom
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r they a skykid or a spirit

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a spirit looking through a door window peephole thing

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skybot what do you know about the lore

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pl s

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h e l p

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maybe the power of the four elements is so powerful together that they ahve to channel it somehow

bitter shale
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pThink mmmm maybe

queen locust
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Isn't that just them trying to show the skid the rest of the murals-

ashen bloom
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but they dont do that for the other things

livid valley
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also what are they doing? seems like the whole crew doing some kind of summoning, even our skid helping too
trying to touch the rock 101

queen locust
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was the lore packed in the last one too much for just Jackal Jesus to handle

ashen bloom
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XDDD ye s

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weve had like 10 different theories on that one mural

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the theorizing was too much to handle

bitter shale
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indeed, but why they have to do taht move to summon the final murals when the other murals are just... appeared without any special move from the prophets?

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oh-

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wifi so bad it showed the other messages late stickerGloomy

ashen bloom
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rip

meager canyon
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Hello lore chat! What chu loring bout today?

ashen bloom
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were trying to figure out why things are thigns

meager canyon
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Oki

ashen bloom
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also kakashi pigeon human-manta centipede megan

meager canyon
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Uh huh

ashen bloom
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so not much

bitter shale
ashen bloom
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b l u e?

bitter shale
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that blue streak is my spirit btw

ashen bloom
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oh wait

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also

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c l i ff

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s

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ravine

meager canyon
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every time u say kakashi I cri he was my favorite and his back story so sad

bitter shale
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ngl same

ashen bloom
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this kakashi isnt as... not cursed?

bitter shale
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and the uh

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elevator

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i think

plush pine
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v a u l t

ashen bloom
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its the vault

bitter shale
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does that mean diamond was originally build on vault or what

plush pine
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Looks more like the big ol window thingies

bitter shale
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its kinds confusing ngl

plush pine
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Rather than the statues

ashen bloom
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vaults in the mountain

bitter shale
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i think those are pillars

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to place the elements

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to made the diamond

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idk idk

ashen bloom
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its vaults window things

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on top floor

plush pine
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Ye what I said

bitter shale
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:< its kinda sus innit

plush pine
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But arent the diamonds made by like

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uhhh light ?? or rocks

livid valley
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creatures

plush pine
bitter shale
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manta juicer goes brr

ashen bloom
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ominous

plush pine
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this lady

livid valley
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mop mom yes

plush pine
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She made a diamond with some rocks and her big ol starry hammer

queen locust
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Juicy juice

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Oh ye- she might have been the one who invented them

ashen bloom
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hmm

queen locust
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But it's a common theory that diamonds were mass-produced

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In factories in Wasteland and in Forest

plush pine
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And then vault lady gave one to You ™

ashen bloom
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i dont think diamonds necessarily caused the war tho bc the elder has both a sun shield and a diamond spear

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in gw

livid valley
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something good invented will be always be mass produced

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i guess she made a few first till factories

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light creature rights lmao

ashen bloom
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y wouldnt they like it tho

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also the problem is thta gw elder has both things

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tst=...

queen locust
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Two Shields Theory

ashen bloom
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o

livid valley
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lol.

ashen bloom
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but creatures of light seem to have unlimited light

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soo

queen locust
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That's what the juicers are for- kind of

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If they had unlimited light, they'd be juicing them for all eternity

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which is all kinds of painful

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If you're a being that's literally composed of light at least

ashen bloom
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but creatures of light are able to give off light without being juiced

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unless we juice them

queen locust
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They had to concentrate the light into something

ashen bloom
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everythime we get light

queen locust
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You can't exactly store emitted light

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Not for long anyway

ashen bloom
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but u kinda can in the game

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thats what we do everytime we have flap thigns

bitter shale
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interesting

queen locust
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You can imagine that the Ancestors didn't have that luxury

bitter shale
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our flap mechanic is kinda like water rocket

queen locust
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That's why the diamonds exist

bitter shale
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we ejected light whenever we flap, can be seen whenever we flap our cape become blueish and our light depleted from our wedge

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a fancier jet pack SkyLOL

ashen bloom
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well they seemed to have created candles since who else put those there and if they get a creature of light to even go near it (which wouldnt be a problem since they can just call them over no problem) then u can presumably light ur candle

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which then likely stays lit

queen locust
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There's wind and things that can put it out dawg

bitter shale
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it can be said that the spirits are always lit SkyLOL

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anyway

ashen bloom
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t r ue

queen locust
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If it's candles- never expect them to last-

livid valley
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have you ever saw the candles melt

queen locust
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Plus they aren't exactly a sustainable source of light

bitter shale
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the only candles that actually runs out are those candles on benches

queen locust
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Especially if we're having to light them up every now and then

ashen bloom
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but were talking about sky world not real life world

livid valley
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how does the only bench one melt while the others dont

ashen bloom
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but when that happens they can get a manta to presumably willingly come over and light it for u

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different kind of candle

bitter shale
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maybe they can secretly fire bending, idk lmao

queen locust
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Do we ever see a manta light up anything

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Let alone candles

bitter shale
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nah

livid valley
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Game mechanic Meowphecy?
id like some lorewise stuff

ashen bloom
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but like

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its most likely the same sort of light

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also

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when u relieve a spirits memory they leave behind a little was light thing

queen locust
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dude are you really willing to kill a person for light-

neat fractal
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Perhaps the bench candle is just made out of weaker wax? If that makes sense
So it actually melts when burnt unlike the other candles we use

queen locust
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They do that because they're spirits

ashen bloom
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but they can be called with manta call

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it is a dif candle

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but what if they already had it

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the spirits are capable of magic

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why not light

queen locust
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I don't really have an answer for that but it's probably best to think of the diamonds as some kind of battery

neat fractal
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I mean, do we even light up the candles we use as currency? They could just be made out of weaker material (like how money is made with paper etc) and the candles that give wax orbs everyday are a special magic candle

bitter shale
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In Valley there's also a line of candles we cant light
is it in hidden corridor valley temple?

ashen bloom
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also ya in valley (the windiest place in sky world) the candles are always lit

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on the slidey part

queen locust
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It doesn't stay lit, and it's made for other functions- it isn't necessarily used for light

bitter shale
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lit

queen locust
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The diamonds I mean

ashen bloom
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and theres light fragment things just lying around

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all the time

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light seems to be renewable

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and very reliabel

queen locust
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Hey yeah are those things from the race even something leftover by the spirits

ashen bloom
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theyre still light things

queen locust
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Or is it seriously just some game mechanic

ashen bloom
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even if its "just a game mechanic" its a cannon part of the game

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also butterflies

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they can most certainly be called over

queen locust
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oh those butterflies also got juiced

ashen bloom
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tbf tho they are trapped in pots

queen locust
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Easy to carry towards the juicers

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You'll want a lot of them

ashen bloom
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but this method is inconvenient

queen locust
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Anyway, if we believe that the Ancestors fell from the same place that the Elders did, they likely also knew what an infinite source of energy felt like

ashen bloom
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bc they rnt directly powering the diamonds

queen locust
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And you can assume that this is something that they were doing in order to reach that level again

ashen bloom
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wdyn

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wdym

queen locust
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When you're yeeted into an unfamiliar place with unfamiliar materials, of course they'd start a little slow from scratch

ashen bloom
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juicing wouldnt be a likely first thought

queen locust
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Those diamonds likely aren't their final product

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And you're right- it wouldn't be- that's how advancing through a civilization works

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There was probably a time where they were satisfied with the harmony they've found

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At least- that's how I think of it

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A self-sustaining, reliable source of energy- that's probably what the Eden Diamond was supposed to be

ashen bloom
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but having like a pet manta that followed u would be a much more efficient option

queen locust
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try telling that to those people-

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In fact- maybe some of them realized that and midway they were like 'hey MAYBE we SHOULDN'T juice these semi-sentient creatures for our own gain'

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Thus the War thing

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though I kind of doubt that's what the war was about

ashen bloom
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^

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tho how exactly would they juice these

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as far as i know theyve never been shown to fo that

queen locust
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There was a whole mechanism in the pins if iirc

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But the basic idea was that they'd concentrate the light into some kind of extract and incorporate it into a hollow shell- the diamond

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Possibly made of dark material

ashen bloom
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the light became the diamond?

queen locust
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great now I'm craving some lemonade made of butterflies

ashen bloom
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honestly i just thought that was a fancy light XDD

livid valley
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and mantas

ashen bloom
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and jellyfish

queen locust
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Quite wrong- that thing is present in the first temple of Wasteland

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But like- broken

ashen bloom
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ya..

queen locust
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Can't just be a fancy light if it opens gates and doors and windows and stuff

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plus imagine having that thing as a chandelier

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THAT'S what I call inconvenient-

ashen bloom
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XD

bitter shale
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manta squisher

ashen bloom
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but also why would the sun shields (which were against the diamonds i think) be protecting the vault which is filled with diamonds

bitter shale
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manta : woo woo
manta squisher : my time has come

queen locust
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Idk too much about the Two Shields Theory myself but yeah that does raise quite the question

ashen bloom
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magic?

queen locust
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look at all those pots

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filled with butterflies ready to be juiced

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sad-

ashen bloom
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ya

queen locust
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Oof- gotta go- grouped homework- gotta draw a 30 year old wizard

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Cya guys

ashen bloom
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but if i remember correctly the sun shields face away from the vault implying that the sun shields are protecting the vaukt

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vault

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i thought gw elder has sun shield and diamond spear too

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also why would teh spears turn around

rapid juniper
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Uh cuz he controlsthe diamond spear

ashen bloom
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AND the sun ppl?

agile galleon
ashen bloom
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it wouldnt make sense

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; - ;

agile galleon
rapid juniper
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Wait so the devs are watching us all along

agile galleon
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always

rapid juniper
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And the poll thing we did here

ashen bloom
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theyre watching us s u f f e r

torpid ravine
rapid juniper
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Well yeah

agile galleon
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I was curious about the theories spinning up about fire trial.

ashen bloom
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o h g o d

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very

agile galleon
ashen bloom
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i dislike smokey eyes very much

rapid juniper
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Me to

ashen bloom
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t h e y p a i n m e

torpid ravine
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Don’t we all love getting killed by those w h a t eyes

ashen bloom
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t h e y h u r t

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if u hug them u d i e

rapid juniper
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They look like somthing in my nightmares

orchid field
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Since the cave drawing at the end has the golden person who passed four trials and other white ppl laying down at the trial. Also this is origin story, I guess back to time, the spirits might have soooooo many ppl died in the trial

ashen bloom
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y would it be an origin story tho

torpid ravine
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Damn

rapid juniper
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Yea

ashen bloom
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a prophecy is a fortelling of the future (tho for us it would likely be the past since the prophets are ded)

pastel brookBOT
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The prophet is in

rapid juniper
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You cna see in the walls of propchecy

ashen bloom
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THE PROPHET IS IN WHAT SKYBOT

orchid field
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I think they mentioned it’s origin story some where when the trailer of this season came out

rapid juniper
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Yeah all spirits are dead so since tables can touch them tables are dead to or tables have special power

ashen bloom
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but i dont think its the original origin story and more of the origin story of the world we go through

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vault tables?

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bc part of vault is likely not even reak

rapid juniper
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Our tables

ashen bloom
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those are spells thi

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magic

orchid field
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No living table.

rapid juniper
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Chat tables or chat chair

ashen bloom
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our tables w a l k

rapid juniper
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No the magical tables i

orchid field
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I mean we can’t really die in trials, so back to those spirits really die in trials and cannot go back to live again

ashen bloom
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we cant rlly die permanately

orchid field
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Tables! Don’t you seen a chat table?

ashen bloom
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in anythign

orchid field
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True

rapid juniper
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Yeah i call it chat chair

orchid field
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The mega won’t let us died

ashen bloom
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also if prophets are dead then the trials are prob not real either so we cant rlly die there either

pastel brookBOT
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I haven't been this scared since my creator got stuck in someone's basement stickerCold

ashen bloom
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o

orchid field
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Oh yea, I heard about it using table put the quest giver high up

ashen bloom
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do t e l l?

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yes

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@pastel brook e x p l a i n t h y s e l f

orchid field
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Here comes to boy get way to intelligent that stuck creator in basement story

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Panicccccc

rapid juniper
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Eeeeeee

ashen bloom
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pPopcorn t e l l

rapid juniper
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Oh n

ashen bloom
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byee

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s o

rapid juniper
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Um whats the lore

ashen bloom
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what were we talking about last?

rapid juniper
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Uh about diamond spears and chairs i guess

ashen bloom
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it doesnt make sense for the gw elder to have both a sun shield and a diamond spear

rapid juniper
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So where did gw elder get sun shield

ashen bloom
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wdym

rapid juniper
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What does wdym mean

ashen bloom
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what do you mean

rapid juniper
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What does wdym mean

ashen bloom
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..

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o

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wdym=what do you mean

rapid juniper
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Lmao oki

ashen bloom
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XDDD

rapid juniper
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So where did gw elder get sun sheild

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Shiel

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Shield

ashen bloom
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the question is

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why

livid valley
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sun

ashen bloom
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being the elder protecting the vault would imply that hes on the diamond side

rapid juniper
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Why did gw elder get sun sheild

ashen bloom
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so why does he have a sun shield

livid valley
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because sun

ashen bloom
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but w h y

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sun is against diamond

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so why is diamond elder

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have sun

rapid juniper
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He nas sun shield

ashen bloom
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but W H Y

rapid juniper
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Cuz he the only buff elder

ashen bloom
rapid juniper
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Or hes stronger than praire elder

livid valley
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prarie be sleepin

ashen bloom
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but that doesnt give him incentive to have both

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prarie lazy

rapid juniper
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Uhm

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Cuz he have an army

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Or megan gave it to him

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OR

ashen bloom
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but hes representing btoh armies

rapid juniper
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Som

ashen bloom
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; - ;

rapid juniper
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Uh maybe hes the most technology elder

ashen bloom
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but then why does he have sun

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which is against technology

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and why do sun shields face outwards

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which protects vault

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which is full of the technology

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ahhhhhhhhhhhh

rapid juniper
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Uhm im out of idead

ashen bloom
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

rapid juniper
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Yes idead

sly kestrel
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vault isn’t meant to be a place full of tech

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I mean it does but

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It’s called vault of knowledge for a reason

ashen bloom
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but its full of diamonds

rapid juniper
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Vault is a library i yhink or place full of lanterns

ashen bloom
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and the diamonds are the peak of their knowledge

sly kestrel
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That’s not the orignal purpose for vault tho

ashen bloom
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not the original maybe but it became that

sly kestrel
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Yes they have diamonds but vault isn’t meant to store them

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No it didn’t

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Wait

rapid juniper
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How about the vault word

sly kestrel
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Where’d u get that

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Head canon?

ashen bloom
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its literally filled with diamonds

rapid juniper
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No wait no not the vault word

ashen bloom
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elevator ie

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which is powered by a diamond

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theres diamond symbols everywhere

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on the elevator, the lanterns have diamonds, etc

sly kestrel
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Words from the devs
The vault is meant to hold knowledge and history to pass onto future generations before they go extinct. The elevator part is a simulation made to teach us skykids about the history of the world before we venture into Eden

rapid juniper
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Yeah vault is powered by diamonds pEyes

sly kestrel
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Some knowledge is forbidden in the vault, it’s called the archives and it has been broken into before

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The place with the most diamond tech and peak of power is valley

rapid juniper
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So we are going extinct

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Skids

sly kestrel
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Wasteland intended to have more but abused production and failed miserably

ashen bloom
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but vault has the most diamodns

rapid juniper
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Uh how about forest diamond

sly kestrel
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They are lanterns, they have the most but it’s not meant to be a place that’s specifically to hold diamonds, it’s meant to hold its knowledge USING the lanterns and diamonds

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Forest is a factory

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Which started the diamond production

rapid juniper
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And the door thing boop showed

sly kestrel
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Or should I say

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Darkstone

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The door represents how they are made

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And the factory

rapid juniper
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Where to find darkstone

ashen bloom
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in vault archive theres shelves filled with diamondy things

sly kestrel
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Not jus archives

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It’s all over vault

ashen bloom
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exactly

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thats what im saying

sly kestrel
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But archives jus holds the ones that are forbidden

rapid juniper
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Archives

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So vault is a factory

ashen bloom
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proof that those are forbidden?

sly kestrel
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We have no way of looking at this forbidden knowledge, not only is there no game mechanic but also bc skykids don’t kno how to use it

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No

ashen bloom
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how do we know its forbidden tho

sly kestrel
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It’s from a live-stream from the devs, when they were making the archives they gave details about it

ashen bloom
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oh

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okie

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still

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they utilize diamonds

rapid juniper
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Whats the livse teredcc

sly kestrel
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And vault isn’t a factory bc it was never intended to be, there’s no proof of it either

ashen bloom
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^

sly kestrel
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Forest and wasteland were the diamond producers

ashen bloom
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ya

rapid juniper
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So vault is a noledge

ashen bloom
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ya

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its a vault

sly kestrel
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vault is a place that stores knowledge

ashen bloom
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vault=vault

sly kestrel
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Vault of knowledge

ashen bloom
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yes'=

sly kestrel
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May I ask what ur confused about

ashen bloom
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gw elder has both sun shield and diamond spear

rapid juniper
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Im confused at evreything

ashen bloom
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its a huge hole in the whole sun vs diamond theory

sly kestrel
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well the story is meant to be speculated and head cannoned on our own but

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I have my theories on it

ashen bloom
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tell?

sly kestrel
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He switched sides bc he knew that it was all wrong, what the king did and the corruption the darkstone was bringing, the “sun” is actually a symbol that represents a lot of things but look at it like the symbol of the natural light. In other words, the good guy symbol, in rebellion to the king he joined with the ppl that were against him as well

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There’s a lot of different theories about the war at wasteland

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But most of them revolve around the fact that it wasn’t a battle with creatures

ashen bloom
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but it wouldnt make sense for him to end up holding both

rapid juniper
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Wheres darkstone

sly kestrel
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His mural represents him siding with the king and who he used to be

ashen bloom
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screenshot?

sly kestrel
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But many events later he is seen with the “sun” shield

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Which I explained earlier was him joining them

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Basically he jus switched sides

ashen bloom
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then why would he remain elder

sly kestrel
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He can’t turn into an ancestor

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Or skykid

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Of course he’s gonna stay an elder

ashen bloom
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but he woukdnt be in the temple, at least, since he betrayed his ppl

sly kestrel
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What’s ur theory

rapid juniper
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So his people are dead now

sly kestrel
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What do u think happened there 🤔

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Everyone died a long time ago rizel

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Us skykids came into the world long after everything and everyone went extinct

ashen bloom
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i agree with the whole diamonds technology knowledge thing (another thing supporting that is that diamonds symbolize intelligence) but its hard to say what exactly the war was about

rapid juniper
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So

sly kestrel
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So
There’s no saving the kingdom anymore

ashen bloom
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i feel like theres some holes that make it a bit difficult to call for sure

sly kestrel
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It’s gone

ashen bloom
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ya

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all we can do is try over and over again

sly kestrel
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or we can gather up our numbers
AND BUILD A NEW KINGDOM

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hehehEheheheh

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Skykid kingdom

ashen bloom
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unfortunately thats not in the game mechanics ; - ;

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tis a shame

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i also think that the ultimate thing that caused the explosion thing was the prince

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i n t e r e s t i n g

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is the constellation the most present version of elders or their cutscene

night pecan
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me knowing nothing of the sky lore: :)

ashen bloom
#

XDD

night pecan
#

this is fine

ashen bloom
#

XD i still dont understand the lore ur good

night pecan
#

did eden elder commit a crime

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and then

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eden happened

ashen bloom
#

probsbly XDD

night pecan
#

naughty elders get sent to the crime box

ashen bloom
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megan: BAD ELDER. SIT IN THE BOX

teal orbit
#

omgomgomg

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did u guys dee that?

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the mods gave the dark worm

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an

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OFFICIAL

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name

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SHADOW
[chorus sings]

ashen bloom
#

o

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tis a miracle

night pecan
#

oh i hate them-

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had to honk to see em

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:V

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i wish to bonk them

ashen bloom
#

oh my

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but if u bonk them u d i e

night pecan
#

i hate them tho

ashen bloom
#

ya same ; - ;

livid valley
#

sounds like a villian name

ashen bloom
#

s h a d o w

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they are indeed villains

neat fractal
#

Shadow the edgehog

ashen bloom
#

e d g e h o g

pastel brookBOT
#

I don't know if they're watching tho...

sinful anvil
#

it unsettles me that no adults are sent in the realms as if another kingdom is gonna be rebuilt and repopulate the realms; ik elders wont like the idea that their realms are overrided
its ruins and will always be that way

quick grail
#

but if u bonk them u d i e
@ashen bloom Unless you are invincible where they burn to the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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and technically skykids are ageless soo...........

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

umbral fossil
#

HEY DO WE HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHERE THOSE BONES IN GRAVEYARD CAME FROM CAUSE THOSE ARE SOME BIG FRICKIN BONES

quick grail
#

Dead whales

sinful anvil
#

but its like. no experts, no new civilizations
its not like in our world like abysserian & sumerian & roman empire got replaced by present day continents

umbral fossil
#

Big worms?

quick grail
#

But the empire of skykids tho

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and crab curry for all the meals

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mmmmmmm

ashen bloom
#

yum

quick grail
#

oooh and crab pets and manta cars!!!

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ooohhhhhh! Krill cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

umbral fossil
#

I got all depressed yesterday thinking about how the spirits and elders are all SO much taller than our Skykids... and then realized it's probably because they're skyKIDS and the spirits would be adults... and then got sad thinking about all these kids repeatedly going on what are essentially suicide missions

quick grail
#

Hmmmm

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interesting but we are much more powerfull and much more cuter so...

teal orbit
#

Dead whales
@quick grail whurtles.... not whales

quick grail
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pWhale = whales. That is what i meant

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the giant white things that fly arround

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@quick grail whurtles.... not whales
@teal orbit that is what i meant

teal orbit
#

no thats not a whurtle

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a whurtle is never seen alive in game

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a whurtle is a flying rl whale with a turtle head

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@quick grail

quick grail
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oh

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but i did not mean that

teal orbit
#

Osteoglossum cetaceans > whale

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Balaenoptera coalescentibus whurtle

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whurtles r the dead bones in graveyard

strange marsh
#

Is the vault technically a realm compared to other places like prarie and wasteland? Or is it more of like a gateway for Eden (not that that’s its only purpose)

icy spruce
#

Hi

queen locust
#

I'm inclined to believe that Vault is a realm of its own

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Mostly because we have an Elder associated with it

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My God what happened while I was off drawing a 30 year old virgin

strange marsh
#

@queen locust hmm, I get that you mean by it having an Elder associated with it. But I think it’s more of like, a guardian to it more than anything else

queen locust
#

I'm just glad this time it's the Vault being called into question XD

dapper pagoda
#

why does he have eyes though

queen locust
#

Tell me- what is it that you consider a realm though?

dapper pagoda
#

nothing else has eyes

queen locust
#

What has eyes Kitten?

dapper pagoda
#

vault dude

queen locust
#

They all have eyes?

dapper pagoda
#

no that's

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mask lights

queen locust
#

What about Forest Mama then? She doesn't look like she has a mask

dapper pagoda
#

could you provide a picture

queen locust
#

wait nevermind I just checked

dapper pagoda
#

yeaj

strange marsh
#

I think a realm is like a grand like, piece of land I guess? And when I think of vault, I just think of a structure allowing passage from wasteland into Eden

dapper pagoda
#

yeah

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it's just a big tower

strange marsh
#

Mhm

queen locust
#

So a realm to you would be a natural piece of land

dapper pagoda
#

not always

queen locust
#

Eden being a mountain helps its case but I still standby my assertion that Vault is a valid realm

dapper pagoda
#

a realm is a place that has a name

queen locust
#

Mostly because it serves an important purpose- artificial or otherwise

dapper pagoda
#

so the forgotten ark

keen obsidian
#

I like to think that a realm is anywhere accessible with a portal from home

dapper pagoda
#

and the sanctuary

queen locust
#

Forgotten Ark and Sanctuary both aren't realms

dapper pagoda
#

but they have names

#

so they aren't just

keen obsidian
#

Theyre sectioned off parts of realms

dapper pagoda
#

extensions

queen locust
#

They do- and so does the Cave of Prophecies, doesn't it?

dapper pagoda
#

mini realms, you might say

strange marsh
#

Other places inside of the realms have names, like that one place in valley

dapper pagoda
#

oh the cave is definitely a realm- it has a portal into it

strange marsh
#

What’s it called

dapper pagoda
#

citadel

strange marsh
#

Yes that^^

dapper pagoda
#

wel no

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that's a part of valley

queen locust
#

Citadel itself is a significant place WITHIN Valley

dapper pagoda
#

yes

keen obsidian
#

No well, i think the vault is its own realm but not like the others. Sort of like the isle. The isle is introductory and the Vault can be considered the conclusion. Neither the isle or vault have social areas anyway

dapper pagoda
#

true

queen locust
#

So why would Sanctuary and the Forgotten Ark be any different?

dapper pagoda
#

because they have introductions

queen locust
#

Is that really enough for it to become a realm , I wonder

keen obsidian
#

No but theyre just different sections of the realms

dapper pagoda
#

mI NI REALMS

keen obsidian
#

Theyre all in the same space so i wouldnt consider it its own separate, even mini realm

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Its just an extension

strange marsh
#

I think it’s just considered an expansion

queen locust
#

Neither of those really have their own Elders either

strange marsh
#

Mhm

dapper pagoda
#

uh

queen locust
#

I don't think we can count the Guides as Elders

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They're Ancestor spirits

dapper pagoda
#

well no don't they lead that part

queen locust
#

Forgotten Ark was an accident

dapper pagoda
#

so they all own different things

keen obsidian
#

They aren’t considered elders though

dapper pagoda
#

true

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wait

strange marsh
#

Going back to elders being a sign that a place is a realm. Wouldnt that mean that Eden isn’t considered a realm?

dapper pagoda
#

why is the ship in ark still there

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eden is a realm

queen locust
#

Eden has an Elder my guy

dapper pagoda
#

yeah

keen obsidian
#

It does ?

strange marsh
#

oh?

dapper pagoda
#

also

queen locust
#

Most people assume that the Eden Elder is the King or the Prince

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Either way, they aren't around to be saved anymore

dapper pagoda
#

the prophecy cave is a realm because it has a portal

queen locust
#

So the devs say

keen obsidian
#

No thats not how that works

queen locust
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not the Prophecy part

keen obsidian
#

I think a realm is a portal accessible from home

dapper pagoda
#

it could've just been a loading zone and some low poly cave

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but that means home isn't a realm

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even though there's a home portal in vault

keen obsidian
#

I don’t consider home a realm its more of a social area

queen locust
#

It isn't- it's merely a gateway to other realms

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A realm in Sky plays roles- consider them story beats as part of a greater narrative

keen obsidian
#

There are no home portals, Theres meditation stones but those are different

queen locust
#

Like how one would associate Daylight Prairie with Daytime and Childhood

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Or Valley with Sunset and Early Adulthood

strange marsh
#

So a realm is anything that they attached a meaning to like shown in office?

queen locust
#

Neither Sanctuary nor the Forgotten Ark would represent a story beat

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Sort of like that- but that's how I view it at least

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Vault represents Night and Old Age

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Eden represents Storm and Death

keen obsidian
#

Yeah i agree

queen locust
#

Both viable realms- with respective Elders to boot

keen obsidian
#

I consider the vault to be a sort of conclusion as the isle is an introduction

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It goes through each other realm up until the end with the elder cutscene summarizing the journey

queen locust
#

Vault actually feels more like Catharsis than an actual conclusion- you know how some heroes in narratives come to an epiphany before facing the root of the conflict

keen obsidian
#

Yeah yeah i understand that

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Since eden is sort of the climax afterall

queen locust
#

side-note I like the Fuyuhiko profile pic

keen obsidian
#

Thanks 😎😎

strange marsh
#

👀 don’t encourage her

keen obsidian
#

Leave me alone

strange marsh
#

hehe

queen locust
#

Lmao we don't judge here

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unless it's a theory in which case we scrutinize

strange marsh
#

Don’t worry we know eachother, she’s obsessed

keen obsidian
#

Anyway moving on from the topic of realms, im really interested in the illustrations in the cave of prophecies

queen locust
#

Which parts of it?

keen obsidian
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Like

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All of it

queen locust
#

I figured you were gonna say that

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Butters wrote an essay about it if you'd want to read that

keen obsidian
#

After the fire trial its all covered with murals and i sort of get an idea of what its supposed to mean but i cant really tie it together

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Omg i wrote one too but my friend had disagreements about vault being a realm

queen locust
#

Did you do the part with the lighting up the braziers thing-

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because so far everyone's been pretty split about who glowy boi's supposed to be

strange marsh
#

Mhm

queen locust
#

And it's been the most entertaining thing lmao

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also I'd like to read that essay aasjkajkasja

keen obsidian
#

I think the glowy boi is supposed to be a sky child, it resembles the shape of an unlit child

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Also sure

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Its a lot so

strange marsh
#

visual confusion

keen obsidian
#

Okay so in game each light corresponds with an element. Blue being water, yellow being earth, turquoise/green being air, and red fire. The figures holding each of the lights resemble the elders of each realm in the game, minus the first and last one. The yellow one belongs to the daylight prairie, which can for the most part be spent on the ground with minimal flying. The blue light belongs to the Hidden Forest, the forest is constantly raining and has water puddles everywhere, its basically flooded. The green one belongs to the Valley of Triumph, which is a realm mostly consisting of flying, there even being a race for flight. The final one, red, belongs to the Golden Wasteland. In that realm, light aka fire is most important to players, as the water/ooze hurt the player and drain their light. There are also dragons and krabs that steal light, dragons stealing up to 8 winged lights at a time. Anyway now that the intro is out of the way, when reliving each spirits memory in the cavept1

queen locust
#

I'm alright with large stuff- I write words in my sleep

keen obsidian
#

You can see that there are two or more spirits from the regular common realms each corresponding to the given element. This makes me believe that the start of the whole world begins with the elements, and the spirits residing in the cave are the first settlers of the world, teaching the common spirits, making them belong to a constellation corresponding to what they were taught. The simplier figures, the ones who only have a head and a peopa pig bult body, represent the sky children, aka players. Players dont belong to a single realm and can travel to each realm to their own liking. Most likely represented by the mural of the child with each light surrounding them. Thus, sky children are capable of more. Spirits are confined and stuck to their single realm, only to be revisited by the player. And so, to my conclusion, the first settlers of the sky world stumbled upon spirits (who were at the time alive) and taught them each accordingly. Resulting in the split of realms, elements, and constellations.

queen locust
#

btw pretty sure Earth light is green

keen obsidian
#

Is it

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I get the two mixed up

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Just interchange them srry abt that

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Anyway i got most of the idea from this part mostly

queen locust
#

Tis okay- it's hard to tell with how bright the light is

keen obsidian
#

The broad shouldered person resembles the wasteland elder with the red light, the twins from the valley with the turquoise light, the rounder elder of the prairie with green light, and the slender elder with the blue light.

queen locust
#

we're calling Forest mama Slender Elder from now on akajaskaj

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jk jk

strange marsh
#

i

keen obsidian
#

LMAO

livid valley
#

Nice

queen locust
#

then again that's technically who she was in concepts- lurking around like an actual Slenderman

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heck you're even in a forest

keen obsidian
#

Oh no-

strange marsh
#

Conspiracy within a conspiracy

keen obsidian
#

Slender mama

livid valley
#

She's camouflaged

queen locust
#

you cannot escape the l e g

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Anyway-

livid valley
queen locust
#

I really like this interpretation of the murals- wait are ya done-

keen obsidian
#

Uhh wait lemme go see if i have more to say

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Im copying and pasting from a convo with my friend

strange marsh
#

She went on about it for about 20 minutes so I’m sure there’s more

queen locust
#

Sift through the chaos take your time XD

strange marsh
#

Yes

keen obsidian
#

Okay so

strange marsh
#

This season just added- so much more to the mix

keen obsidian
strange marsh
#

Almost too much too fast

livid valley
#

It added more pain into my brain

strange marsh
#

Yes

keen obsidian
#

I think this image resembles the first cutscene when first beginning the game and when completing eden

queen locust
#

My brain cells are finally working for once I'm kinda grateful

livid valley
#

Indeed

keen obsidian
#

What both those events have in common is your being born, in the eden instance your being reborn

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I think this mural is sort of representing that

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And and

strange marsh
#

Wait a second I never noticed that image on the mural

keen obsidian
#

I literally showed u </3

strange marsh
#

They’re like making sacrifices to glowing child???

keen obsidian
#

Jusr shows u werent listeninf 💔

livid valley
#

Why not

queen locust
#

surprise- extra glowy boi

strange marsh
#

gasp

keen obsidian
#

Anyway so

livid valley
#

I would make sacrifices to some glowy child

strange marsh
#

Same

queen locust
#

I'd sacrifice the glowy child

livid valley
#

What a turntables pPopcorn

strange marsh
#

I’d give my college tuition to glowy child

keen obsidian
#

This one i think shows how sky children, players, have access to each realm and constellation, each belonging to an element, represented by the lights

queen locust
#

god I'm gonna need to complete that freaking trial soon

keen obsidian
#

IT SUCKS DOESNT IT

#

we died thirty million times

queen locust
#

Very- I'm just glad it's in Live now so it technically isn't a spoiler to me

livid valley
#

But if you don't do it you didn't die thirty million times

strange marsh
#

I feel like after seeing that the Elders seem to be sacrificing to the glowy child, that really lowers the chances of glowy child being a symbol for playable character

#

elders and other spirits^

queen locust
#

I did it and died thirty million times I just rage quit after 30 million

keen obsidian
#

I dont think thats supposed to be a sort of sacrifice but maybe an offering

livid valley
#

I didn't even done a single trial if rather just chill ya

keen obsidian
#

Like how if you complete a constellation you get an ultimate gift

strange marsh
#

ye that’s what I meant, I’m just illiterate

queen locust
#

Somehow I'm thinking it's the other way around instead

strange marsh
#

I feel like I’m constellation, you’re the one offering things, not the other way around

#

Yes

queen locust
#

I'll let ya finish first tho-

keen obsidian
#

Hmmm

#

No i wanna hear ur thoughts ive been kinda rambling

strange marsh
#

This is just so confusing because before this, we were kinda left to believe that the glowy figure was you as the playable character, but now that seems unlikely

keen obsidian
#

Or actually this just occurred to me, doesn’t the image depicted in that mural sort of resemble the cloudy mountains visible from every realm ?

#

Hold on let me show you what im talking about

queen locust
#

I'm paraphrasing a bit from Butters's essay but the Tl;dr is that the glowy boi is the Prince, he completed the Trials, distributed them across the realms, and was crowned King

#

We're seeing a Prophecy that has already been fulfilled

keen obsidian
#

This thing

queen locust
#

Not one that is yet to be fulfilled

keen obsidian
#

Ooo

#

I like your theory, or your friends theory

queen locust
#

Reason I believe that is because it feels as though the murals themselves predated Eden- but the essay provides better insight on it despite needing to bepolished

#

I like yours too- even if I don't completely agree

keen obsidian
#

Yeah yeah i can sort of see your view

livid valley
#

Nice

keen obsidian
#

The idea of it being a prophecy that already happened seems reasonable

queen locust
#

Here's the essay btw- I haven't done it justice

#

Credits to Butters

strange marsh
#

I’ve been looking at the fire mural for a bit and I’m kinda getting the vibe that before all of the mass pollution, wastelands was a bright city with a lot of life around it

#

But something must’ve gone severely wrong since the other realms managed to thrive off of their given elements but they didn’t

keen obsidian
#

Yeah you can see that with the mess and ruins scattered around it

queen locust
#

Oh yeah- that's kind of a big thing- that Wasteland was a nice realm before everything

#

I for one believe that it was a whole forest

keen obsidian
#

It looks like there was some sort of pollution they didn’t fix before it was too late, leading to the ooze

queen locust
#

Before it was burnt down and cleared away for factories

strange marsh
#

Yeah, I feel like that was a big point of wasteland for a long time. This just gives me reason to believe that the fire was unable to be controlled and might’ve been a leading cause to the chaos

queen locust
#

I don't necessarily believe that the element got out of control so much as they took things too far with it

#

Greed, and expanding and stuff along those lines

keen obsidian
#

Abused it maybe

#

Fire is a feisty element

strange marsh
#

Power hungry

queen locust
#

Yep- razing everything to the ground until you're left with nothing but a deadly ruin

#

that's now also infested with giant fried shrimp

strange marsh
#

Probably trying to stop any further damage by hunting down anything that dares disturb the land

queen locust
#

Oh- remember that mural under the Forest bridge by the way

keen obsidian
#

Oh yeah

queen locust
#

This one

#

Once we speculated that it was Wasteland

keen obsidian
#

Ooo

queen locust
#

See those silhouettes- they match the Wasteland Temple from a distance

#

I don't think it's Forest at least given that the Forest Temple doesn't have turrets off to the side

strange marsh
#

It would make a lot of sense. Especially with the release of ark that basically confirmed a lot of traders passed through and took shelter in wastelands

keen obsidian
#

Off topic, I’m not saying this is true or anything but its just something i found interesting to me. sometimes i think of the realms as a progression of civilization, in prairie it was mostly land and cave, the only time we see structure is with the shrines and the elevator place. In the forest there are more structures and buildings and paths. Valley ls more civil, structures being everywhere, and even sources of entertainment (races). Things maybe got out of hand and turned into the wasteland, i just speculate that because some of the wastelands structures resemble some if the valleys near the ends of the races. But i don’t expect this to be the case i just like imagining it

queen locust
#

I've seen that in the pinned docs somewhere that kinda alludes to that

#

It's a nice thing to think about

keen obsidian
#

Yeah

queen locust
#

at night unable to sleep and having my brain work for nothing but Sky lore-

keen obsidian
#

Omg me too-

livid valley
#

Sleep.

keen obsidian
#

I spent like two hours looking at the murals trying to figure our what they mean

strange marsh
#

Not even kidding/

#

I watched her do it

queen locust
#

Don't worry- I'm confident that I have a decent sneep schedule-

#

I sneep at like

#

10 pm

keen obsidian
#

Nice

strange marsh
#

Imagine not sleeping at 1am

#

Couldn’t be me

queen locust
#

imagine waking up at 1 am

#

that's where the sneep deprivation comes from

#

i don't go back to sleep if that happens

livid valley
#

Oof

keen obsidian
#

Imagine ur sister waking up at 4 to go to the bathroom and she sees u on ur phone 💔

strange marsh
#

anyways-

keen obsidian
#

That was fun

strange marsh
#

Thinking about what we should dive into

keen obsidian
#

Hmmm

strange marsh
#

Thank you random cave for giving us 10x the amount of more than before

keen obsidian
#

I told you the cave was BEAUTIFUL

strange marsh
#

Fire trials alone is enough to debunk that.

queen locust
#

freaking worms

strange marsh
#

Evil.

livid valley
keen obsidian
#

The fire trial was fun ur just a baby

strange marsh
#

.

#

ur simply just wrong

#

There’s nothing more to it

keen obsidian
#

U just hate me

#

💔💔

queen locust
#

Speaking of the Fire Trial-

keen obsidian
#

Ohh ??

queen locust
#

I'm low-key confused as to why it's a labyrinth of its own- is this to capitalize on the fear of being lost

#

Or the dark-

keen obsidian
#

Most likely

#

The more you progress in the levels the harder it is to see the next candle to light

queen locust
#

The entire thing feels like a cavalcade of phobias stuck inside a giant smoke ball

keen obsidian
#

Thats how me and my friend got lost

queen locust
#

Aye- doesn't help if you keep disconnecting

strange marsh
#

We waited like 2 days to do it because of the chat being disabled so it wasn’t too bad for us

keen obsidian
#

I think making it a labyrinth was supposed to add confusion as well, like “wait didn’t i pass by here already” vibes

queen locust
#

Then again if it capitalized on that I think it does the job

keen obsidian
#

To make you panic

#

And then they hurl fireballs at u to make u even more terrified

queen locust
#

That too- cuz apparently all those previous wisdoms apply here

strange marsh
#

lies.

#

It’s just chaos

queen locust
#

Resilience probably plays a role in its mazelike structure

#

Organized chaos- those worms have a distinct pattern to them

#

Kinda like krill but without the threat of actively being hunted down

keen obsidian
#

Maybe patience plays a role too, if you don’t wait at a candle long enough before running off into an already lit path you’ll die

#

That happened to my friend

#

And i yelled at them for it

queen locust
#

god you're gonna hate me if you were stuck with me for that trial

#

I did that a lot-

keen obsidian
#

LMAO

strange marsh
#

Who was it that completed it though.

#

When you were

#

RUNNING IN CIRCLES

keen obsidian
#

Its cool i am a patient person for the most oart

strange marsh
#

just saying-

keen obsidian
#

Right nay

#

👁👁

strange marsh
#

anyways

#

The ‘smoke creature’

keen obsidian
#

Mah heart

#

Mah soul

strange marsh
#

Seems to be very based off of krill

keen obsidian
#

Yuppers

strange marsh
#

I forgot where I was going with that

keen obsidian
#

Except they aren’t alive they’re fixed in a set path meant to corner you if you’re in the wrong place at the wrong time

queen locust
#

It's krill-like but the notable difference is that you can't aggravate it

strange marsh
#

Yes, that’s true

queen locust
#

You just die if you happened to be in its way

sinful anvil
#

patience in the fire trial has a certain tact to it. wait too long & u might start off at the wrong time or never reach the destination; wait too short and the worm catches you

keen obsidian
#

Omg 😳😳 krill 😳😳 fire 😳😳 WASTELAND 😳😳 ?!?!

sinful anvil
#

(similar thing goes with that annoying part in the maze)

queen locust
#

If it were based off actual krill I have a feeling Fire Proph was going easy on us

keen obsidian
#

Probably

queen locust
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Imagine literally having things hunt you down in the dark

sinful anvil
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its already tough imo

keen obsidian
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Yeah i agree with Eye

queen locust
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Graveyard but you can't tell where the hell you are

sinful anvil
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& fire prophet only taught spirits to be proud without teaching them how to be resilient

pastel brookBOT
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The mods have to know something about this...but I'm too scared of them to ask

keen obsidian
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In the final stage if you wait too long at a candle a fire monster will just ram into u

sinful anvil
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yea in the final stage those monsters seem to sense us

meager canyon
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does anybody have any fluffy thing theories?

sinful anvil
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i think they re AIs

queen locust
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Lmao you came at a nice time Gab we're talking about them now

meager canyon
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Oop haha hai virdi

strange marsh
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I think the creatures were simply designed to implant fear in the participants of the trial. Since it’s reminding them of a predator that they’ve come across before.

keen obsidian
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Yeah

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Since the trial is set in darkness you csnt really see the monsters until it’s nearly too late

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We avoided them by luck

queen locust
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If we go by the theory that these Trials are happening purely in a dream-like state, it could just be us simulating fear

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Or what the Prophets from way back when thought best portrayed fear

meager canyon
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I noticed that when they pass you if alot of ppl spam honk you will live so they only take a certain amount of light about just enough to kill you

keen obsidian
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Ah i see i see

strange marsh
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Would that be saying that the krill were always bad then?

queen locust
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No- not that they were, but simply as things to be feared

keen obsidian
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Maybe krills were always just trying to protect something

queen locust
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though I wouldn't blame them if they thought they were bad like

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of course you'd think that of something that goes aggro once you're in its line of sight

meager canyon
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Plus we only ever sat down our bodies are still there so they actually might be dreams pEyes

keen obsidian
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Shown in the wasteland, maybe they were trying to prevent the destruction of the ecosystem

queen locust
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Yeah that's what I was thinking of Gab-

livid valley
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Nice

keen obsidian
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Oh so sort of like meditation ?

queen locust
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its destroyed enough though I don't think there's much left to destroy-

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Eden too

strange marsh
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I’ve always believed that they’re just protectors to other creatures in the world, so they wouldn’t start attacking spirits and light children until there was something they’d done wrong

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^like polluting wastelands

livid valley
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I've done something wrong :0

meager canyon
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Maybe krills were always just trying to protect something
@keen obsidian
Yeah I'm still not sure whether they where trying to protect the area or destroy it. I think their just protecting the teritory

keen obsidian
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Yeah like back then before everything eas polluted and destroyed

strange marsh
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Yeah, there were structures there before so I’d assume the krill either just chilled or weren’t around until stuff went down

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And at that point they just wanna preserve what’s left of their homes

queen locust
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Chilled or people have just learned how not to aggravate the big scary shrimp monster

meager canyon
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I don't think they where there to protect BC if they where they would be every where else. Buttttt

From the places that the krill are in their habitats are places with alot of darkness so I don't think they where there when wasteland wasn't destroyed

queen locust
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They do just seem to thrive in dark places

keen obsidian
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Youre right youre right

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Hmmmm

strange marsh
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So do you think at the wasteland’s peak, they were able to fend off the krill?

keen obsidian
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Then maybe they are really just protecting their territory

meager canyon
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I think they just moved in BC there was a lot of darkness and now just lurk there krilling for food

keen obsidian
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They show agression to creatures of light like sky kids and mantas

queen locust
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Personally I don't think it was the krill that they were fending off against but I doubt they'd be able to take down an outright aggressive creature like a krill

meager canyon
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Yes but they don't attack crabs do they?

queen locust
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They eat the crabs

livid valley
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Do they even have mouths

meager canyon
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So I think they just krill for food

keen obsidian
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No they don’t attack crabs but crabs are sort of dark creatures instead

strange marsh
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but

keen obsidian
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Do they attack crabs ?

strange marsh
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The crabs being cooked?

meager canyon
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Yes but they are the only other species that can do harm

livid valley
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Do you think krills can cook?

meager canyon
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No

livid valley
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Ofc not.

keen obsidian
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Maybe some spirits lefft their oven on nay dont be mean 🙄

queen locust
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I'm not sure you want the shrimp to be any more grilled than it already is

livid valley
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Burned

strange marsh
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I feel like, spirits wouldn’t be the type to just eat crabs, so maybe they tried to use them as a sort of bait?

keen obsidian
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Plus im not sure the gigantic krill can handle a tiny thing like that

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Its like a trex trying to play the piano

meager canyon
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I don't think they used crabs

keen obsidian
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Maybe the cooking crabs are simply a little easter egg or something

queen locust
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I'm not even sure that krill even need to eat to survive

livid valley
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It well a Easter egg

meager canyon
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Remember the time of ancestors and now are hundreds of years apart so crabs maybe weren't around when ancestors where

livid valley
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But lorewise pPopcorn

queen locust
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Oh they were- Enchantment murals show they were present

meager canyon
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Hm

queen locust
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The ones in the crab-infested cave

keen obsidian
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Yeah so lorewise maybe spirits back then did eat crabs

queen locust
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Who else would be roasting them on spits

keen obsidian
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The flavor <3

meager canyon
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Did they even need to eat??? Remember these aren't humans sky kids don't even eat pEyes

strange marsh
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If anything I think spirits just found fondness in crabs, like the spirit in ark that researched them and was obsessed

queen locust
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Skykids and Ancestors are fundamentally different

livid valley
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Yep

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Diffrent

queen locust
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So I don't think we should rule out that Ancestors couldn't eat just yet

dapper pagoda
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WAIT

meager canyon
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Yes but ancestors and humans are also fundentally different pEyes

keen obsidian
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Well i cant really think of any other explanation for the crab kebab

livid valley
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Ok I wait

dapper pagoda
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THE SKYCHILDREN HAVE MOUTHS

queen locust
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What

dapper pagoda
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THEY CAN MAKE NOISES WITH THEM

livid valley
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Where.

strange marsh
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For beeping

dapper pagoda
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WHICH MEAN THEY CAN EAT

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no

keen obsidian
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U mean the HONKS

dapper pagoda
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the shh eMOTE

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THE SHH EMOTE

queen locust
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That- doesn't necessarily mean they have mouths

strange marsh
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Wait no they don’t?

meager canyon
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Is food even in sky pThink

strange marsh
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um..

livid valley
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Crab being grilled is food

keen obsidian
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Maybe the noises are just there for the emote effect

dapper pagoda
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H O W D O T H E Y M A K E T H E N O I S E T H E N

queen locust
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The shh emote can simply be a motion to tell someone to be quiet

keen obsidian
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I dont think its meant for the lore

livid valley
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Game mechanics

dapper pagoda
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mouth

queen locust
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That- we're still tryna figure out lore-wise

livid valley
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No

strange marsh
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I don’t think that sky children would be able to eat. Especially being that they’re literal light

dapper pagoda
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mouth

meager canyon
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Remember SKY KIDS DONT NEED MOUTHS TO MAKE SOUNDS . THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM HUMANS

dapper pagoda
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WHAT

queen locust
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But we know for certain they don't have mouths- maskless things