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Ik...
Srry
Poor word choice
But u get the gist of it
More:
Why are the trials of air and water ice and snow
When the other trials arent?
Stuff like that
Could you enlighten us on the significance of this detail Pyre?
a parodox is a self-contradicting statement.
Yesyes
So it would have some contradictions, but not with itself i guess?
I said poor word choice
Yes goober
@hushed steeple if a detail contradicts your theory, your theory is invalid unless the detail is a game mech
Theory rule no.1
Yes i made that just now
But its so tru
What about the "all theories are welcome."
Oh right
A theory is a theory, you shouldnt shoot them down like that.
Invalid theories r welcome too
Huh
Just cuz a theory is invalud doesnt mean its bad and unwelcome
Well if it doesn't make any sense it can be placed in the crackpot theories section or things to think about I guess
Yes
Did you just set your own standard for welcomed theories here?
No all theories r welcome
What has this conversation come into
Idk
All theories are welcome
Just
Don't force your theory on someone else and you'll be ok
I just checked the chat right now but somehow, Pyre has become the judge if your theories makes sense or not
Nah
Whether it contradicts any canon stuff is up to u to decide
Maybe this will help someone here... https://youtu.be/t9GoM0uvZrE
I just made a video with all the changes made to the caves. It has all the glyphs. : )
Canon lore is pretty vague, so it can be anything 
You're having you're own canon theories, its good. But stop at being too stiff about it please.
That... was not wut i was saying...
nova, mind if i add that link to my pinned message of a bunch of seasonal vids?
Sharing your theory is encouraged, regardless of it contradicting canon or not. And even then, canon lore is still pretty vague and has lots of holes in it, so it can be anything.
A theory is good, and having evidence to support it is a plus. Just don't shoot down other people's theories nor enforce your own onto others.
Sure @spring blaze. Thanks!
Just a reminder.
The entire discussion about the paradoxes and such are on thin ice and could probably be considered gatekeeping if it went a little further.
Okie
Ok everytings good now
Just keep the vibes good my dudes 
: )
Whats the topic
So... what is that cave glyph?
Whats the glyph?
Let me take a picture...
If its the mural...
done and done. thanks nova!
The prophets got a prophecy
And made trials to find their ruler
They trained spirirs for the trials but they all failed
Then came the prince and succeeded...
He was crowned on eden
i have a collection of the shiny boi screenshots, but unfortunately the last one's bugged and it only shows the shiny boi
which one 
I wonder how all those people who fell off those cliffs are doing
I think those star like things are us
^
And the prince is the middle
Btw where are the old lore seekers
the who?
there are people cheering under so that might be prince
This one perhaps
Oh
For me the event in season of prophecy happened long before other seasons ir maybe ling before theres a sky kid. Each prophet of certain elements teaches mortals how to master it in preparation of a certain prophecy which is still uncertain to me. Mastering the 4 trials one can ascend and be ready to reborn as a sky kid in the future to deal with different sky areas/maps in sky. Maybe i think tahts why we lose our cape everytime we are doing the trial, for us to remember that once we are just an ordinary mortal handled by those prophets as a novice. Sorry for my english 🤭✌🏻ill stopped
skylluminati confirmed
Yeah its the prince
For me the event in season of prophecy happened long before other seasons ir maybe ling before theres a sky kid. Each prophet of certain elements teaches mortals how to master it in preparation of a certain prophecy which is still uncertain to me. Mastering the 4 trials one can ascend and be ready to reborn as a sky kid in the future to deal with different sky areas/maps in sky. Maybe i think tahts why we lose our cape everytime we are doing the trial, for us to remember that once we are just an ordinary mortal handled by those prophets as a novice. Sorry for my english 🤭✌🏻ill stopped
@thorn portal yes
skylluminati confirmed
Btw where are the old lore seekers
asneep, they tired
But we did the trials?
skybot-
Here big pic of the mural
But we did the trials?
@pure leaf well its sad
?
Well they are dead now
yeah that's eden alright.
Ok....
They cant cheer us anymore
there's even the diamond
at least we know which light belong to which realm now
yeah that's eden alright.
@kind bobcat yup its eden
Yeha
wait, or is it the vault
No
that kinda looks like the vault elevator and summit.
ya
Vault ed
Ers
they potrayed the reborning process I guess???
yup
i think it's like this
The stars are to the left tho
I think they are in the trials
eden is probably the only mountain in Sky
Valley at the background
Valley has a few
its the tallest
vault doesn't have it's own light
no like the colored light

can a collage of every single small mural in the last one help you guys rn
If yes , then i can send it 🗿
Oh you mean in the mural
but it isn't in the mural-
can a collage of every single small mural in the last one help you guys rn
If yes , then i can send it 🗿
@broken basin sure
oo wolf send it!
can a collage of every single small mural in the last one help you guys rn
If yes , then i can send it 🗿
@broken basin https://youtu.be/t9GoM0uvZrE
I made one a little while ago
OH WAIT
Sorry
i think it's good to have both video and picture formats for anyone who has preferences for either
I read that wrong
wow
Nice
lookin nice
^
The elders below are from previous murals and not a part of the actual one
the little elders are so cute
epic editing skills 
theyre like 
also the light for prairie looks more yellow than green unless you mean the actual light
Yeah, but i think that's just the way it looks cause i dont know how earth=yellow and not green😂
ye
prairie in little elder form looks so cute aaa
it's like the belonging cape debate all over again but instead of green or black it's green or yellow LOL
Yeah, the earth's actual color in game is a pale yellowish green
valley got the air lightbulb
And yeah, just like the cape, the ink of the light can appear differnet in differently lit scenarios
Guys I have question for yall but I don't know where to ask it, do you think wasteland is a cold place or a hot one?

uhhh
how do you think a place with polluted water feels like
Might be cool since very little light reaches it due to the dense cloud layer
fhats true
what environment would dark creatures live in?
crabs can be thrown everywhere
Tho they adapt everywhere
dark plants also
would eden be hot/cold? 
Cold
with that amount of wind I think it would be cold
dark plants tend to be in darker, damp areas
and also top of mountain stuff
i always saw eden as hot
Huh
maybe its because of the red crystals haha
Red crystals take your like so they prob r cold too
maybe
it kinda feels like eden is cold since it's high up on a mountain but the red rocks are hot
red rocks be vibrate
i see the crystals as hot bc they take ur light so they get warm and stuff
Red crystals r cold cuz they take your light
Did you notice they only glow red when you get near them?
ya know how red light is colder than blue light thing
Oh man I missed a lot-
Ye
Did you notice they only glow red when you get near them?
@kind bobcat they're already red tho
The crystals on the ground in eden
they vibrate more when you get closer and glow brighter too
I see we're talking red Eden crystals
they're grey at first, and then glow red when you get near them
don't eat them they'll suck the life outta you
forbidden pop rocks
and not in the grinder way
Then my eyes must be betraying me. 👁️👄👁️
Once you approach, they glow a little brighter
You need sneep. XD
you didnt need to point that out 😔
eden rocks used to be mint flavoured but since people tried to lick it the devs turned them into red
Do skids have tongues-
They dont seem to have mouths. 
Plus there's still mint colored rocks in Eden
Just jutting out of the unsalvageable skids
wait WHAT
o those are from pre-global
Yeah- there's statues before the point of no return
eden used to be blue actually
yep
the fact that in eden we can see skykid corpses crumble
kinda worried for those skids that can't be saved
ye eden used to be blue
()_()
no wonder Sky has f e a r in it's rating.
The concepts mentioned that the Eden Mountain was once a beacon, which is somewhat confirmed by the prophecy mural.
@kind bobcat but it’s still a beacon
The beacon seemed to be fully natural in concepts.
We see the beacon of Eden throughout every realm
and how do they keep appearing over and over again in the same place and crumbling every time we approach
It's still a beacon by virtue though
You guys think they created the beacon?
no wonder Sky has f e a r in it's rating.
@kind bobcat people voted 1 star for sky just because of eden-
So just lemme ask, is there a king in sky 
in the lore yes. ingame no
used to
can't be saved anymore
he's not there in the way we'd expect 
in the lore yes. ingame no
Cuz my friend didn't believe me there's a king im the lore
king went to buy milk but left to the Journey kingdom instead
they potrayed the reborning process I guess???
@undone harbor ohh
i thought he went to mario world?
Are you new here Mizo?
Not so new, just rarely go here
Ohhhh- I'd suggest brushing up on lore stuff in the pins
Hi
Oh hey welcome Maky
Welcome to lore chat
Does anyone have the lore moff doc on hand ckskxkdj
you wont be leaving soon
welcome to lore chat where we surrender our brain cells for the collective hive mind for theory crafting
There is no escape from the propaganda
you are not immune
Anywho- since you're new, I suggest poking around the pinned messages to get a feel for what we talk about here
W E L C O M E
TO THE BRAIN JUICER
Canon Sky Lore, frequent theories- all that good stuff
Plus some of the names often mentioned here.
You guys wrote so much I can’t see what was said about the cinematic-
We don't use those all that much anymore I think- purely to avoid confusion
Pinned messages?
I do suggest minimizing the use of the Elder's fanon names
It’s not pinned
Aw man.
still have no clue what any of the elder names are lol
Where is theory vault?
I wrote it.
@woeful quartz you'll see a button shaped like a push pin if you're on PC
On mobile, swipe right
Ah is there somewhere I can check out the rest of what you wrote?
Also I’m sure some pointed it out but on the final prophecy we can also see a building there is in orbit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sEGSGY4Bh8aAG67rE0RtD_oBg_ekVfaYdVRfnRvE11E/edit?usp=sharing
It's not too good....
I'm guessing a lot.
I really wonder, exactly what did they all do wrong. The intro, and the entire game made it seem the people of Sky committed a grave mistake and got “punished” for it: it doesn’t seem like the storm was a mere accident. But so far nothing they did really makes me think of a crime so bad your entire civilisation goes extinct
Thank you nova!
: )

I'm surprised lore channel doesn't have a cool down since fire trial came out
Lore chat's been sneepy for a while, unfortunately.
It was intruiging- but I think I'll have to disagree with the glowy boi being the child of light
it was put in cooldown when the season was announced though hehe
Thanks!
It was intruiging- but I think I'll have to disagree with the glowy boi being the child of light
@queen locust I'm not sure.... Just guessing.
But we did beat the trials
and find the cave
I really wonder, exactly what did they all do wrong. The intro, and the entire game made it seem the people of Sky committed a grave mistake and got “punished” for it: it doesn’t seem like the storm was a mere accident. But so far nothing they did really makes me think of a crime so bad your entire civilisation goes extinct
@little island oh boi have you heard about the grinder
No I haven’t
Yeah
Yes I think in this case the murals depict us, but we are shown as glowy to stand out
I still disagree- but I'll agree to disagree
Ah tell me
the light juicer still sound really funny-
I thought that was what you meant @queen locust !
😹 I mean I thought you meant the glowy boy was us
Oh that- no, I don't think the glowy boi was us
I believe it was the Prince instead
Why?
Mostly because the murals felt like they were depicting the construction of the Sky Kingdom
If you recount the Air Trial murals, you'll see Vault Mama climbing a mountain
All I need in lore is an explanation of what the spirits are
I think it makes sense for it to be us, because the glowy boy reincarnates
Well there's a few theories saying the prince is the child of light, so. 
^
And from the drawings it doesn’t look like anyone can do it
Son of the King, Light
Well yeah that too- but that won't be happening until way the hell after the Eden disaster
except for that one guy
At least that's what I believe
also after finishing trials we glow
Prophecy looked like it predated even Eden
By the way I’m not trying to pressure you into changing your mind I just like hearing all of your opinions because it sounds really interesting
Just in case
It doesn't even have to be necessarily a glowy boi- just a depiction of the glowy boi to distinguish from the ones that failed
did the winner also have to grab a glowy boi at the end of every trials?
spirits were the people who lived in the kingdom of sky. since theyre spirits, theyre very dead but their memories live on
if so what was taken from them?
Because I believed that the murals predate the Eden disaster, I don't believe that the glowy boi is a Skykid- or at least, the kind of skykid that we are familiar with
🔮
|| 🥯 ||
My idea is, maybe that's the whole thing they were trying to to do in Eden. A prophecy told them about a special and wise being that would reincarnate there (whether that is the Prince or us. Maybe they wrongly thought it was the prince, since the prophecy proved that it was us). And they were preparing eden to hold place for a giant ceremony/ritual to commemorate the moment the prophecy comes true, but the tragedy happened first
Oooo nice!
hello I am new here, where I can read about the plot of current season?
well we are still discussing it
just know this season is about a prophecy and its trials
Feel free to scroll up and poke around the pins a little bit if you like
/heck several people typing
The cave murals are all here if you want to see. https://youtu.be/t9GoM0uvZrE
Heya Jen lmao

||by the way, i'm still working on the website i talked about to gather up the lore and write it in a linear fashion, if someone wants to help me by giving their opinion feel free to shoot a dm and i'll send you the link||
We'll keep that in mind I guess
huh
YEahhh
Is it a grave or smthn-
NOT OREO
yes Oreo >:3
That's actually a part of TGC's concepts
its been there forever
It was used in the moss-tech concepts
lol
Also, I saw someone need the Prophecy lore thing. Well, here's Butter's theory of the Prophecy thing:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14uVgsmI5GTpanqaXUdLWZLg2ZLiP6FfGr44fZYi6Zww/edit?usp=sharing
Credit to Butter
Exactly how it looks like right now
Just covered in moss, soot and snow.
TGC used it to show off textures iirc.
SNOW
Soot... is a new one-
Winter is soon....
Nope, it's actually also a reference to the old prairie elder concept art
Will they add snow again?
I think so
SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW
Hopefully
WE GONNA DO THE SPINNING ALL OVER AGAIN

Bye Boop, cya later
That's the only way I can experience snow- in a freaking game-
YESSSsssssssssssssssssssss
Enjoy ya CR
^
Gl Boop
Ya, frozen home would be nice
🌨️☃️🌨️
Were were we before the Prairie thing again-
oh right that-
So, what about the murals?
The prince is the shinyboi, the dud that completed all the trials, the dud that gets coronated, the dud we hug in orbit, and the dud that left all those imprints
@pure leaf
Cotl is just children of the light
that’s not canon, pyre, i wouldn’t go around claiming it is if i were you
True
Oh right
eeeeeeeeee
but It's a good idea
But nova already knows all that stuff
prince just go everywhere and scatter shiny bois like salt huh
bricky i've missed you and your order
lol
Ahhh yes
I-
The lore only mod
@icy spruce is your pfp sakura from tbhk I love it
Thanks
Wait, how can you be chibi and tall @icy spruce?
You kidding- that's one of the most common names in Japan
But I wear the chibi mask
Rlly?
XD
i don’t think the top 100 japanese names is exactly lore
Yea
Yes srry
is there any docs on differences between in-game texts in different languages
Because they are the elements?
yes
Notes on Sky glyphs @undone harbor
Engravings on golden bells
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nSKhrpnzW95SOx4-x4fB924IbS9Swiah011-f_pqHgw/edit?usp=sharing
Texts in Vault of Knowledge
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IX5VDRQXrVjY0hiBvU9AJAswxqtgSr2FlqCaiyivW3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Note) These are personal notes of Mochi-daifuku, who is interested in languages and linguistics but not a linguist nor an observant person. The documents are live and I'll probably rewrite them now and then. Please feel free to use the images in these documents to build your own theory!
ALL NATIONS LIVED IN HARMONY
NOT MINE
According to alchemical theory, those are the four elements of the universe
Btw
UNTIL THE DARKNESS NATION ATTACKED
So it isn't just an Avatar thing- it's been a thing since medieval times
Ya ik
Yeah
mmmmm yes alchemy
people also tried to connect elements with the coloured lights
too bad they renamed it to chemistry
There's a fifth element that Bricky mentioned once- Aether
before prophecy and when enchantment came out
The Prophecy is here? Hide!! 
delicious
my current theory is that the ark spirits were alchemists
The red and purple lights?
YESSS
goober we have been screaming about those lights since
checks watch
may
no one knows what they are
Red and purple lights were likely artificial offshoots created by the Enchantment spirits





The prophecy once foretold of skykids that never rest. They never saw the darkness that swiftly engulfed them. Don’t forget to charge your phones 
Red is memories (murals) and purple is buildings (?) I guess.
The lights are timeless brick. 👁️ 👄 👁️
when i was looking at alchemical symbols i came to the conclusion that the purple light was either gold or soap
I-
S O A P-
soap I-
okay, that eyemoji just became more cursed.
soap
GOLDSOAP
nice
SOAP LMAO
GOLDEN SOAPLAND
LMAOOOOO
Gold soap, nice
the symbol for soap is a diamond
the symbol for gold is a circle with a dot in the centre
.___________.
doesn't help that apparently the spiritual realm is comprised of salt, mercury and sulfur
when i was looking at alchemical symbols i came to the conclusion that the purple light was either gold or soap
@lethal stump CONGRATS YOU MADE THE CHAT SOMEWHAT ALIVE
i highly doubt the purple light’s symbol is an actual symbol, its those memory cubes
which is just plain weird-
The pinnacle of self-care
....
the element of hygiene
yes
The purple light could've represented knowledge or something?
maybe the ark spirits just slipped in the bath and their fancy soaps went to all the realms
we’re just helping them take a bath
because vault glyphs
uhh
like wasteland is stinky enough
Nah, the purple made the shops in ark
purple is also often associated with magic too
^
are the shops made of soap
Yeah, and the shops sell potions.
Best place in Sky
And to make potions you need to know how to make it 
maybe these lights ARE soap
you know
eden stinks
god now that we mention this it makes me think the Alchemists aboard Ark were neat freaks- and it kinda makes sense
You gotta sterilize your workspace
and Wasteland very stinky
TRuuueee
yaaaaaassss
also for some reason we never thought about sky having alchemists despite having potions and spells before enchantment LOL
lmao
ya
they used the alchemical symbol for air for the earth light and i—

Symbols are wacc
also for some reason we never thought about sky having alchemists despite having potions and spells before enchantment LOL
i mean, sometimes when children made of clay fly around in a floating kingdom you lose your sense of questioning the things around you
if ark spirits are neat freaks I'm coming with them
we learn not to question stuff we already die and are reborn in an endless loop what else could happen-
See ya Chesca

have the alchemical table of symbols 
See ya 
Interesting
my eyes were immediately drawn to the soap
arguably the green light could also be a simplified clay
is that not where gold is supposed to be in the normal table w h a t-
wait nevermind it's off by a few places
i like how alchemists have a symbol for soap, of all things
🧼
oh THERE'S gold-
well, if you’re working with a myriad of things that stain you’re gonna need it
but yeah ever since the ts ive been trying to equate the enchantment lights with alchemical symbols
but whatever the lights are, i don’t necessarily think they’re elemental
Just the two, or all of them?
all
What do you propose the other ones are then?
well, the way i see it, they’re just made to do certain types of magic
grow things 
make wind 
make items appear 
reveal murals 
purify water 
i think this one just lit all the lanterns 
So they're basically portable, specialized orbs of convenience?
yes
why not bring your Portable Specialized Convenience Orbs™️ on your search for prosperity with your research mates ?
freaking cyan light is just a fan-
i use water to purify water
i will mention that this theory is drawn from my friend who is OBSESSED with the enchantment spirits and gave them these powers from the light they represent
and by extension made me do thonk
Man thank God for your friend then-
This brings a new perspective to those orbs- though I can't really push away their similarities to the elements just yet
i mean in regards to universal magic there’s always gonna be « elemental » similarities
Hey am back
Welcome back Maky XD
i mean everything in the world was made from the 4 elements
mostly yeah
But even in the absence of Blue light , the Alchemist catsed a blueish spell on the water to purify it but it failed.
So, i think each spirit's magic was connected to their lights. And they were
as long as they had the lights
Ok anyone have any idea what the creature in trial of fire is
Well, in a nutshell, since darkness harms us in fire trial, it's a big blob of pure darkness
So it means we can put them in a jar
Uhh
Oc stories and crackpot theorist is in my name
Though
How did they capture them and put them in this trial
Maybe they didn't 'capture'
What i think is that the trials were intentionally made by the prophets, and weren't a naturally created place.
So, those were maybe "created" by the Prophet of fire
The prophet is in
I agree with you on that @broken basin
i like to think of the trials as a living entity
But if the fire prophet could make darkness creatures like that
I have a little piece of my theories about the Season of Prophecy, do you mind if I post it here?
Could he make other darkness creatures?
Go right ahead-
@past mountain yesss pls
Please post
Came back at a nice time it looks like XD
The prophets created the trials in a time when darkness was prevalent
They also just look like a lot of accumulated darkness, and maybe those things in front is what "powers/controls" them or like acts as a holder of the darkndss
His creatures are vulnerable to light
unlike krills which can't be destroyed
ok I'll post it
Go on
Yeah, definately
The four prophets, mastering the essence of the four elements, (patience, tenacity/determination, agility/balance and bravery), predicted the impending darkness that would devour the kingdom of Sky and put a brutal and saddening end to this prosperous civilization. They gathered "the chosen ones", the spirits that we save as skykids now, in order to train them in the four trials that they constructed, and prepare them for the task that they would bestow upon them. Their purpose was to warn and inform the rest of the civilians about the looming downfall, and salvage whatever they could from the once flourishing kingdom. However, they failed to properly persuade the people as "they didn't listen" (what we are told when starting the game). Thus, they resorted to gathering their last light into winged light, to facilitate the journey of the next generation, the skykids that will be sent to restore the glory of Sky. They also shaped the winged light just like the skykids themselves, so that the clueless children that will first venture into the realms will be able to understand that the winged light are helpful.
Oh yeah, you're spot on with the vulnerability Cause in the end when we have a lot of light, we destroy them
Interesting, that the kingdom was already fully built and finished when the events of propehcy happened?
That means (how I view it) that the creatures were... constructed (...?) in a way, which means that they can only thrive in darkness and are therefore... weaker than other darkness creatures
Yeah, i think they added this weakness since they weren't gonna use them for battling and actual serious stuff. They were just meant for the trail and they isn't wasn't them to be too Powerful
And they added this weakness so that if anything goes wrong, they can be easily destroyed by light
Great theory
But how i view it is that the kingdom didn't exist at that time.
I agree- those murals really make me think that Propechy happened as the Kingdom was trying to build itself
considering prophecy is said to be an « origin story » for the kingdom, i agree with Stand By that the kingdom didn’t exist
Reaching it's peak when the glowy boi passed the Trials and Eden was finished
Plus I don't think the Kingdom could have evolved all that much without retrieving those elements
𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒆𝒔𝒄𝒂𝒑𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒑𝒂𝒈𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒂 
although i do have
certain thoughts
about the timeline of the kingdom
do y’all wanna hear my timeline?
Hehe
aight
Ofc i am
Yes

Also, weren't the ancestors stars as well? ,Since we see them as stars in the constellation
This makes me think if earlier the elders and ancestors were actually stars in different constellations, and the elders were the biggest, sort of a leading star of that constellation
I think ancestors are stars while elders are the constellations
So, maybe , the spirits too fell from the sky along with the elders as they were their leading star
Short like how our friend inhabit our constellation and we are the owner of taht constel, ort of it
We cant meet the elder before we vomplete all of the ancestors in their constellation
And maybe, the people in the isle mural are actually Prophets
And the 4 prophets were the original inhabitants of the actual isle desert and the ancestors and elders fell in front of them
what the- of course we can
I completed Valley without reliving all the spirit memories
By completed, do you mean, just ran through it, or the 100% completion?
I mean... meeting the elder in orbit... meeting them physically
@broken basin 100% completion
Wait, how in the heaven can you do 100% with no spirits re-lived
Its fine, im also wrong here because im too confused how to write it lmao-
English hard-
You can't- I was just confused, sorry
I was thinking about the running through the realm, not 100 percent
imagine if we can tho 
Lamed : ah yes, finally we me-
Moth :
Lamed : ..where is my friends

So, finally, i think that the spirits weren't actually already living in the sky world before the elders fell
I think they fell along with the elders
Indeed
somehow I doubt that but I don't know how to explain that as of now-
so
Megabird is the first being, and her child, the Child of Light, is the second
Megabird creates the first stars, what later become the ancestors
These early, godlike ancestors populate « Horizon » (a nickname i’ve heard for the world of sky that i rather like)
The ancestors eventually lose their godliness as punishment for [something im still working on]
Megabird creates the Elders, the second batch of stars, which act more like a pantheon
Darkness comes, the Elders fall, but the CoL doesn’t (yet)
The Elders create the proto-kingdom, but due to their darkness, it’s rampant with all sorts of problems
They pray to Megabird for help, and Megabird creates the trials, claiming that the « true leader » can complete them
Everyone who tries to complete the trials dies, so Megabird sends her child to complete them
The child completes the trials and is crowned king, revisiting Orbit one last time to receive their crown
Thus begins the Kingdom of Sky
there’s my general timeline
Altho its still confuse me too
Does that mean the whole 6 constells just raining from the sky-
Its kinda terrifying to imagine isnt
So, finally, i think that the spirits weren't actually already living in the sky world before the elders fell
I think they fell along with the elders
Im replying to this statement
Well, it would surely be
But let's just hope that they weren't the size of actual stars👁️👄👁️
Cause that will be impossible then
Yeah becuse if thats the case then not only the dinosaurs are in danger... 
i mean that’s just like, 37 spirits and 6 elders
37 fallen stars
Nice
I'm bacc henlou
not to mention the seasonal ones too
Hello owo
The spirits weren't the only people in the world
There are lots of others involved both in the cutscenes and in the recent murals
since all of the seasonal spirits are associated by a realm (if you look at the emotes, theyre organized by realms)
So perhaps they're the most eminent of the citizens?
Indeed they weren't- so they must have been involved enough with their respective elders to merit Ascencion?
Maybe not 37,there were many more who fell, we just don't see their memories imo
i had a little theory at one point that it was like the greek mythos, where important spirits would get to be stars
i'm having trouble tryna process questions sorry-
Perhaps... but I think the spirits' story (that we relive) is more or less narrated in the season lore
which season ?
Prophecy
and which spirit ?
I explain it in the post above
let me link it
here is my theory, not something confirmed
i already read that, I don’t really understand what you mean by « the » spirit though, you mentioned multiple
I'm open to your thoughts and suggestions
oh sorry
I meant
the spirits'
the typo 
👁️👄👁️
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You guys every think about tgc adding a new map? Maybe that's why this is the season of prophecy to show what map or project they're coming out with next?
kokichi, lets refrain from using fonts like that as they aren’t accessible to everyone, please 
Sometimes but Prophecy opens more to the worldbuilding than like- world building
also i doubt they’d make a new realm, considering the realms are based on times of day/periods in one’s life
you can’t exactly add to those concepts more than they already have
brain twisted
Yea and that would reset some theories and we would have to rethink some stuff
what other stage of life could you even think of to insert in the ones we already have tho
it would require a whole new elder top
maybe they could do it based off of weather since rain isnt a time of day 
Because there would be full of new content in a realm
We already have a mid-life crisis area for christ's sake-
also the lore is pretty much been established over time. they’d have to rewrite it a lot if theyre gonna add a new realm
The weather and stage of life theming go hand in hand in this case I think
And about the statues in GW, I don't know if someone already said this but are the tall statues supposed to be the king like in your profile prophet of brick
Yeah, they won't make a whole new realm since i think the main lore of the game is quite flowing now, and a whole new Realm might disturb it
post teen is adulthood LOL
those already exist, kokichi
Oh
yes they are @tiny portal it’s been confirmed iirc
And eden is both old age and death iirc
Oh yes they're King propaganda
Yes thats my point
Lots and lots of propaganda
it’s death, vault is old age
eden us death
A new realm would disturb the lore we have right now

that photo doesn’t contain vault
Ooo noice
I think vault is just memories of the past that start coming at the arrival of old age
ok thanks 
thats a nice way to look at it
What is rebirth then if eden is death the orbit?
A somber recollection of the life you've led
Isle: Birth
Prairie: Childhood
Forest: Teenage
Valley: Young adulthood
Wasteland: Midlife (crisis)
Vault: Old age
Eden: death
Orbit is rebirth, Maky
Ok
vault being old age makes me think of everywhere at the end of time, a series of haunting hour-long music medleys that describe one’s descent into dementia
as thé album goes on, the music gets more distorted and haunting, until by the end it’s practically white noise
makes me think of how reality falls apart as we ascend the vault
But then, "death" is just a part of what happens in eden.
imv, rest is the time of being old and about to near death
as thé album goes on, the music gets more distorted and haunting, until by the end it’s practically white noise
@lethal stump
The music in vault?
no, thé album everywhere at the end of time
wait we're talking about vault can someone tell me about vault's lore because idk what's going on with vault
Then that's not vault, is it?
also good morning everyone
pspspsps elder
Morning Marzi
we don’t know the lore for certain, Marzi
the point is for you to make up your own
Then that's not vault, is it?
you would have context if you read the comments above and below, i’m comparing vault to dementia, basically
That's... A new take- it DOES get trippier as you travel upwards
Our ascend in vault kinda remind me of the candle filling for a reason 
The music at lower level is slow and chill type
But as we go high, the notes go higher and the pace increases
Kinda makes me dwell a little on the irony of ascending something that symbolizes a descent into madness
Sorry, if I'm wrong, I'll try to hear the music more clearly
Candle meter got filled every time we collect wax, we ascend vault with those sparkly floor thing slowly filled up the vault
Conclusion, vault is a mega candle🗿
oh i just got an Angsty™️ thought
meeting Lamed isnt madness tho-
More like peaceful
oooooh angst spill
oh no- I'm almost afraid
What is lamed?
Ok
I really should learn their fanon names, huh-
All the Elders have one, but we refrain from using them
@round elbow that's what ktjn addressed, we should stop using fanon elder names as they're very confusing
Apologize, i already used to call them by fanon names 
same honestly-
I am used to it too, but we all should try to change, shouldn't we?
But Dev word is law so
Okie 
And the change will be for good, nothing too much to do

Old age disease that messed up with memories
so, the elders of each realm represent how that age sees adults
and when you reach old age, and you’re losing your memory, things are beginning to fade
you see an adult, maybe someone you used to know, reach out to you and hand you something. then you see everyone. your family, maybe ? the people you’ve been with since birth. they show you all the things you’ve done and all of the places you’ve seen. like a scrapbook.
maybe to try and jog your memory ? remember who you are ? remember who they are ?
do we end up remembering ? or do we die having forgotten our family and our past ?
Basically a disease that eats away at your brain
Slowly deteriorating
Commonly found in old people
That bring tears to my eyes
and oh god that's just plain terrifying to be aware of
Dementia is a disease when your brain cells slowly deteriorating because of old age
Well, i respect tgc for they have 2 main lores going on atst so flawlessly amd smoothly
One about the kingdom, and one about the game's actual meaning in flow with real life
Actuallyd ementia can also be found on soem young people, but it commonly found in old peeps
god now meeting the Vault Elder looking all tired like that makes me sad
how long was she even up there- just waiting

now i'm sad nooo
wait @lethal stump can you reexplain your theory? I cant grasp it
Her movements are slow- too slow- she legit just feels like she'd break right after meeting us
oh, do we have any like canon genders for any beings (elders, spirits) in sky or should I just refer to them all with they/them I wanna be respectful
I heard a theory stating that vault elder have a close connection with the former CoL... maybe when they see us they got reminded on old times with the former CoL, altho we are not exactly the same CoL they knew
it’s looking at vault through the lense of being dementia
Genders don't really exist in the world of Sky
@round elbow you can use they/them since we don't have any confirmed genders
So make of it what you will
elders and spirits and all that fun stuff don’t have genders
It isn't confirmed iirc
At least for the ancestors
Mmm yes angst materials 
got it, thanks! wanna make sure I'm referring to them correctly
heck when I first saw Vault Mom I thought they were a dude
vault elder is just.... they make me so sad like they look so lonely under all the statues of the other elders
like not alone but alone
Good thing they have a reunion literally seconds after than then XD
yessss they do and i'm happy for them
can we talk about heights for a second isn't forest elder smol
very
forest and vault are the same height iirc
they could be a model fr
and forest is around ~6’5 i think
awwww vault and forest the smol siblings
Someone measured their heights once right?
honestly i don’t go by legokid’s heights since according to those, lamed should be half of teth’s height
They're still gigantic to me I'm literally just barely 5'1
ive been slowly trying to measure the elders myself
homework does not approve, however
ah homework
oh same Viridi
the true darkness that looms over us all
ew homework hate that
homework < getting krilled
Not a long lasting reunion its seems...
Yeah, but, imo, there's not really any point in measuring their Height.
I mean, what's tall and giant for us humans, could've been normal for them sinec they are a different species and perceive things differently from humans ofc
Like for an example, an apple looks very big for an ant, but the same thing is tiny for us. That's because ants and humans have different set definitions of what's big and what's small
So, i wanna say, they could've also had a whole different system
Idk why i wrote this, 👁️👄👁️
i just want to know how big i am compared to Big Hug Uncle ok
-tries to remember who big hug uncle is-
he's so tall
there's possibly two like- Prairie and Wasteland Elder should go off in a hugging contest
the current estimated height for the king is around 17’4, from concept arts
Food for thought
chomp
Idk if King would give good hugs tho
You'd be under surveillance the entire time you're hugging
With that sharp head 
plus try hugging a whole b u i l d i n g
pffff
you’d just be slapping your face against a wall of cloak
I mean some speculated that the shiny boi we meet after we dead is actually the king or prince... soooo yeah maybe we already hug the king for many times
and if you try to hug the head then you'd get stabbed by the spikes
why the heckity heck is he so big he's probably taller than a skyscraper
cmon buddy I know you just have a rough exterior
Oh sweet a free chest pocket
that is a good question boba, and uhhhhhhhhh aethetics is the answer
although judging by the fact we see the « king » appearing like just a skid with a funky halo, i’m betting that they’re not much taller than us
Just a smol boi with taller-than-a-skyscraper mecha suit
So it could just be a mech and we're good to hug an edgy 14 year old
i love the edgy 14 year old prince headcanon so much
Which depending on who you think the shiny boi is we've probably already done several times
While dead
this is not a phase, this is who i am
why the heckity heck is he so big he's probably taller than a skyscraper
@wispy cedar
Good question but king is around 17 feet while average skyscraper Height is 810 feet 😳😳
@wispy cedar
Good question but king is around 17 feet while average skyscraper Height is 810 feet 😳😳
@broken basin zjSdidjdjsn. I suck at counting
Uawuehejejhw
the glowy hugs must be like really warm and nice though so thanks glowy boi for giving us the best hug
How much is feet in meter
Don't worry dude I suck at conversions too
3ft ≈ 1 metre
king would give awful hugs because spike but glowy boi is just chefs kiss
So uh 17 feet is 17 times 3 meter?
no it's 17 divided by 3
How king looks like?
That's about 5 meters and 2 feet leftover
Not a whole skyscraper, but large enough to be a building
thats about the height of my house
Two stories max
🤌 
i don’t think is really related to sky
There are big creatures
I DIDN'T even get to see it 👁️👄👁️
👀
is it really so horrible that i don’t know about some video game or movie or w/e ?
when did they say it's horrible
im not saying they did, just their reaction is as if it’s a major thing
anyways
sky lore
uhm I think they were just joking, please don't be so quick to make assumptions 
ah
i cant read jokes through text, i’m autistic 
Two stories max
oh... I'm sorry to hear that, I didn't know... it surely wasn't something so serious don't worry
anyways
the king is either heccing huge, absolutely tiny, or both somehow
dorito man
hmm
What are those below the guardian?
im betting they’re the king statues
oh man I disconnected for way too long
I heard a theory that the glowing figure in the centre isn't the king
it's us
a child of light
im betting they’re the king statues
Well, considering there are 8 statues total in gw, not counting the one on shipwreck, you might be right
because in another mural, they send the same figure into the caves and they're also seen completing the trials
I thought it might have been the turetes
your beloved tsadi isn’t as innocent as you think, blue
There is on big statue in eden
The middle is child of the light?
apparently
None of those Elders are innocent despite us disregarding the Skybot comments-
Perhaps the Child of light.
it seems most believe it to be the CoL or King
Perhaps the Child of light.
@kind bobcat ok
that krill tho
Or us but I digress
I think it’s the child of ligh
I guess we can learn em all
your beloved tsadi isn’t as innocent as you think, blue
do you know something that I don't, mr. brikson?


yo i just noticed something
Depends on who exactly you think the Child of Light even is
curse my late responses and poor internet
the above pic, with the elements surrounding the shiny boi, has 7 lines
3 of which are « between » the other elements
maybe a hint regarding what the enchantment lights are
maybe they’re mixed up versions of other lights
well, from the 7 elders (counting valley as one here), only 4 got elements, so the other three (Isle, Vault and Eden) had to do something
eden elder might be a walking, talking element on their own
at least, that’s the case in my theory
@edgy sequoia do u want me to Dm the pictures i took to you?
Also, there are 7 lines, but there were only 6 lights in soe
what I understand from the murals is that, somehow, the trials allowed the CoL to become king
he gained enough power to light up Eden Mountain
whatever that is
i don’t think it’s lighting up the eden mountain, it looks like he went to orbit
If the winged lights are supposedly the king’s imprints, does that mean he traveled around a whole hecking lot? I guess that’s make sense given that he has all this power and is in charge of spreading light around
so, live the elders behind and rule them from above
aren't the elders trapped in places beyond space and time
and could be kaimiiru
now that the world is ruined, yes
but before, after they fell, I don't think so
The drawing are a prophecy about us
col: hi im gonna complete these super tough trials
elders: oh cool
col: now im the king
elders: wait what
col: peace, i’m going to rule from heaven now
elders:
elders: what just happened
I wish someone could make an animation for that
Maybe the king visited the enchantment ship and gave them some light so they could live at their shipwreck.
why not bring them back to civilization if the king bothered to visit them
The enchantment spirits carried the lights with them according to the murals in ark
well, they died at some point
I’m under the impression that most of the spirits died at the same time otherwise they become faceless in the spirit’s memory 
it could be
we don't really know if they died there or not, just that their memories are from that place
well, their important memories
the ones they wish to share with us
one could make the case for everything taking place at the same time, as well as different seasons/spirit memories taking place at different times
The murals shows the past but why is all this considered a prophecy...? Is it predicting that Sky Kids are going to spread light and restore more of the kingdom maybe? Is the ending scene of the season going to show us more??? Aaaaahhh-
man imagine dying while taking your kid out for sightseeing
It's possible that it's a Prophecy that has already been fulfilled
it could be the prophecy that one day, a col would come and complete the trials. when they did so, prosperety would follow and they would ascend either to the throne or to orbit
That already happened, I think
now how it ended in such dissaster is something the devs still need to tell us 
Why do we have the fear the prophecy then, or was that a miscommunication 
The voice of @open quail is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
I kinda think the golden kid in the murals is the prince? But I’m not sure. The only reason I’m thinking this is because there’s only one of them and not multiple and there are lots of skykids
Eye of Eden 
It's a prophecy for the people that lived in the land before the elders came
god everytime Skybot says any of that makes me shudder and walk backwards into hell anyway
Why do we have the fear the prophecy then, or was that a miscommunication
maybe we need to fear the fact the prophecy even came true
I collect the colored lights during daily quests with more suspicion now 
knowing this thing was involved in giant screw-up operation somehow does that to ya
So..... what the heck is going on in this pic
tsadi flexing his heels again
Probably just the Wasteland Elder lighting up the turrets
the way i see it so far is
elders: we need help !
megabird: i’ll send help
elders: great !
megabird: [sends edgy 14 year old]
elders: what is this
megabird: help
Wasteland elder has red light, not sure what’s below him
Turrets
the way i see it so far is
elders: we need help !
megabird: i’ll send help
elders: great !
megabird: [sends edgy 14 year old]
elders: what is this
megabird: help
@lethal stump JSJJEHSJS what's the edgy 14 year old
prince/king
The anime protag
Megan pls- this ain't Evangelion-
Sky; the anime coming 20XX
If this game ever gets an anime- and I doubt it- it's a guaranteed mindscrew
I haven't even understood what this season means and already wanna know all the lore (if any) in the upcoming one 👁️👄👁️
mood-
Lesson learned never trust your god to send help in the form of 14 year old teens
Maybe someone learning what independance is for the first time shouldn't lead civilization
boi I WISH I was as put-together at 14
Are we sure they were?
This seems like a "great expectation sets great responsibility"
Guys, how do you make the gold child appear in the middle of the mural?
I just completed fire and got the thing from Anubis man but it didn't show
ah
Go to the fire pits on the floating rocks nite
You light up the pots my guy





