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/like i mean, how did it got stuck on the cry emote;s friend head
Do we have maps of every area that are reasonably topographically accurate?
/OOOOB
Calculate valley flying race area
Fly up high, get a pic, and then begin with measuring the sizes of measurable parts?
/okay i mighte be free at around 3pm GMT+7 who;s with me
this is subjected to horrible prospective distortion though
/saturday
The real problem us that not all areas are immediatly next to eachother
what is gmt
Greenwich Mean Time
/a timezone
There is an unknown amount of space betwren birds nest and village
/table stacking?
/
sorry for interupting but like can we try calculating the length of each realm
HAHA YES
hmm
/just do the clean table stack ( as we call it)
wait yes table stacking works
you just need to find out the dimension of the table first
3pm for you would be 10 pm for me
Watch out fot reset barriers
apologies for my randomness I shall leave now
come bacc nite

/we need someone with chibi and table
/i have table
I have chibi but I'm not that dedicated
/but nô chibi
hi folks wut r we talkin abt?
i dont have anything to do at saturdy
oh lets make mesurements!!!!!!!
How will you measure the distance between wasteland broken temple area and ark
tables
we need 2 ppl each with one table
also jen, the analogy for spirit memory is like a system restore point, if some directories have not been modified, it will utilize the current one unmodified, but if some directories are not present, it will restore from a barebone copy
Amio, that is sadly an insurmountable problem with current tools
so darkness plants are unmodified, so in memories, they are manifested as ones from our time
/ v= s/t
@gilded fossil aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
/lamb can you like, explain again but with easier words
/ v= s/t
That's..the formula for velocity, isn't it?
That's..the formula for velocity, isn't it?
@neat fractal yes i hate it
once i used table travelling for 2 hours long to reach ark without using the boat
/we should actually start with isle tho
omg wow
pythagoras?
That's for right angled triangles I believe
/like
That's for right angled triangles I believe
@neat fractal yup
/dont do sth too hard or we die trying
we make one huge triangle
I love this channel
That time the boat wasn't there jen👀
/wdym ????
I did that Before enchantment officially launched in sky
That means the enchantment map was there but the season didn't start yet
Just like some people glitched in the sanctuary area
/anyways
u get me the distance from the broken temple to the smol seasonal candle bridge and smol seasonal candle bridge and the ark and i can get u broken temple to ark (roughly...)
/that be illegal
/glitching into areas
yes
/since isle is like, actually flat and stuff
/we need tables and chibis
/also maybe a pair that have piggyback
/we should assign a team that does this
Topographic problems in Sky
We are on a big project now
lemme see if i can be a part of it
Impossible to have a decent measurement with our means
Propagation of Errors is the big issue in any kind of 2d measurements
/wdym 2d now???
You know that glitch when a chibe literally went through wall when get carried
We might can us eit
But we need a long line of chibis for it
oh lord what have I started
If you tilt the table just 1 degree in one step, that error is minimal
But repeat that for many iterstions
/people with school trying to meassure nite
we can fly at high altitudes
@neat fractal nothing. You just redirected it.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE REAL PROBLEM STARTS
/can we like, have someone be a base
🤓 😅
I'll just be the guy that tags along and watches you guys
/ a fixed base where we will base all calculations to
/ i have 3d theory math problems but i doubt i will do it
On a 2 Dimensional surface, not on a plain
/ this is better
/wdym 2d now???
@gilded fossil
guys lets make a team that does this...... and leave it to them...
who wants it
not me
so confusing
but who wants in
Not me but I have an idea
ok, so jen, so lets say i want to build something with 3 aluminum beams, but then i found i already had 3 aluminum beams, so i would use that instead of making them from scratch
/anyone perferably with chibis and tables?
I don't have enough time aaand the table 
You know how sometimes you can get below the ground?
ok ppl who want in react with yes
That would create a flat surface for run based measurements, though you will need to adjust for swim speed
ppl who want in react yes......
I have no idea what's happening in this channel. Can someone explain?
/hello friend
I think it could be better to measure on a plain surface how many tables there are before the Honk To Warp to a friend is too out of reach.
Then use this wide "ruler"
Lore moff

/we're trying to measure how big sky is
Moth doc moth doc moth doc
I've table... But sadly i can't join
/are you lore moff tho username?
Yes
Even Warp as a maximum/minimu range to work
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
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How do you know what's lore moff
Welcome to lore channel

So using the maximum range would make things.... Sort of easier
Propagation of Errors is the big issue in any kind of 2d measurements
this is only a problem because the camera is in perspective view, so all rays travel different distances in reality, but it is mapped to the same distance in 2d
/okay someone please compile all the methods tho, i must leave sorrryyyyy
if it is in ortho we would have minimal errors
the table trick will solve all problems...
Plus consider that 1 table could mean nothing if the surface is a dune with great inclination
I've mastered all table tricks
guys watch the clip
and ok next more precise way to do the first three realms
/did they patch the table tricks tho
So Honk Warp Max Distance could be the easier because its the best direct rectline
the first realm you can use use the table on land
I can't go now isle,forest and wasteland elder room 
and count how many tables
yes
exactly
assuming you know the length of the table
Compare the table length with a chibi
for bird's nest you build an oscillating table stair, it is going to be a lot harder to be precise though
We know the height of skykid in real life
I have
Cause i always get pushed by wind wall whenever i tried to fly up 
guys...........
But wity piggy 
Oh yeah piggy! I should ask kadal to join me 
pls could u just listen for a few secs...
It won't be hard if you attach your table on side walls of vault and use table teleporting
like no interruptions.....
like just 10 secs
plz
yes?
thx
there is a map if isle in this link
measure a smol landmark
and multiply or summin
same goes for prairie and forest
the other realms dont have scale maps
/the map is stretch thoo
Interesting
Otherwise tablets would be just a single straight line
/no where did they claimed it was scale
i have no idea
/seems to be redrawn
Tbh it doesn't seems like scaled with actual isle of dawn

/we need to check then!
how do people make maps like this
Ya look at that floating island right side in corner... Way bigger than actual
ok then
lets focus on the table trick idea
fly high up into the air and place tables at the smallest length possible
/actually, lemme ask the dude, i have found his reddit, it coullda been scaled
we will call it tables
like 1 table
kinda like 1 foot and 2 feet
good idea eh?
ok folks gtg bye
imma sneep now
Cya pyre
ping and dm if u got suggestions
and ping and dm to tell me wut happened to the table thing i just wrote plz
thx

table teleport, what?
@hushed steeple teleport has a minun range (below, less than which it doesn't work)
Pretty sure there is a maximum range too
By measuring the Max (honking till you friend is no more visible/teleportable to) in the most plain surface (like Homespace or whatever is a smooth plain as possible
Could finally define how many tables is long One Honk Max Range Warp
That maybe is the more easier way to measure the Longest Straight Line Unit
Other wise using just tables on a surface full of dunes will get a Polyline between 2 points≠Distance from 2 points
If u go enough far... The server will change
/that some mind boogling big science there
U could fly real high and then table trick to measure even forest in a staright line u know...
And table teleport is different thing
I already failed logarthm and then this
interesting

No like placing tables in a line
2 ppl
Moving forward by placing tables in the air and walking on them
What height is the table?
Ok imma rlly sneep now
table teleport, what?
@hushed steeple teleport has a minun range (below, less than which it doesn't work)
Pretty sure there is a maximum range too
By measuring the Max (honking till you friend is no more visible/teleportable to) in the most plain surface (like Homespace or whatever is a smooth plain as possible
Could finally define how many tables is long One Honk Max Range Warp
That maybe is the more easier way to measure the Longest Straight Line Unit
Other wise using just tables on a surface full of dunes will get a Polyline between 2 points≠Distance from 2 points
I see, yes but how would you find out this in time without server splitting ||seems like it would only work in beta||
Btw u can teleport to a friend even standing too close of them... Just move your camera towards the opposite way where they're standing ... Honk and teleport👍
I thought you meant the table teleport glitch
Table teleport glitch tutorial is in that video pyre sent earlier
/oooh maybe the beta peps can measure it
all im seeing is table physics but broken
/ I summon the beta testers in lore chat
If u go enough far... The server will change
@hushed steeple pretty sure I once was following a friend who was flying out of my warp range, but server didn't split us.. and given The fact HE was flying fast.... I think a couple of steps outside the Honk Warp Max Range shouldn't split us
hmm, I always split when I do not have warp with a friend and teleport to them
it is just a matter of 5 seconds
/yall do please bring up this topic for ppl with other timezones tho
Me watching what I've done go down like, 
Is this a good or bad thing everyone is talking about measuring sky
/ not spam, not gross, not offensive, only pure chaos, i say good thing
Discuss, in this physic topographic meeting:
What is the best way to measure long distances (of realms)
tebkanlo, the weird thing is if you are OOB then you can still warp even if it is beyond the initial warp distanc. if you piggyback straightup from vault and go for a full minute, you can still warp to your friend below
/i say tables
so what is actually the criteria for the warp distance?
/we need to make sure they dont clip
Is this lore?
What about glide to speed
/yea

/this is geography!
Geolorephy
/hey one time lore chat name every creature in sky so nothing stopping us
Sooo. Max Warp distance works just in X Y distance.... Not in Z distance?
Interesting
You set up a friend you can't warp to at one end, fly to the other then use follow to get a straight and constant flight to your friend.
Sooo. Max Warp distance works just in X Y distance.... Not in Z distance?
Interesting
what do you mean in Z?
/height
tebkanlo counterargument: valley oob
the distance is a scalar?
Z in a Cartesian Coordinate System is the height of a point from the ground/sea level
tebkanlo counterargument: valley oob
@short owl what do you mean?

Ooor the quickest way to know the total length of Sky:
Let's ask devs and easily solve this problem😅
/ppppfffffy
I know that but like what do you mean by Z distance, the warp distance is just the radius of the sphere which a friend will show the warp option?
/im never online when devs ever came
I cant grammar today
Yes, I think it is the max radius
The valley oob is a reasonable distance away, yet warp still works
So maybe OOBs prove the Max Range works just on regular X Y in the Cartesian Coordinate System, but not if a friend is flying on a straight vertical line?
I am still confused
So first, before starting measuring, my Honk Warp Max Range must be proved ... to be working....
Daaa
Mmmn
We need Devs to know those lengths
so you are saying the Z axis is not considered in warp distance?
but when you piggyback straightup, you are well over the max range on the y axis
Imma go sneep snorp
Hope you guys figure out the measuring stuff soon xd
I wish you luck 
/same imma sneep too
I don't know, never experienced that infinite warp distannce
Can't we summon Reika?
Mother of Krills
Breika of chains
The Shipwreika
*Modder of kirlls
YOU SPEAK FORBIDDEN WORDS
what are we talking about ppl
we were talking measurements but that discussion seems to have ended
I think the warp distance measurement is probably the most accurate
realms
hight?
length
length?
oh
uhh
with those wind walls
and teleport walls
its quite impossible
also the time
wayyyyy too long
I tried at the valley flying race oob and OH BOI DID IT TAKE LONG
There’s a thing I’ve been overthinking about
I’ll talk about it later
welcome to the club
I send crackpot theories
if you're expecting serious theories
best not to come to me
greetings children of the lore 
I'm just
shaming and humiliating king at this point
good
I have been lore child for a while
just choosing my profession
and it is crackpot theories
i make logical theories by day, crackpot theories by night
I make crackpot theories all day
once in a blue moon will I make an actual serious theory
that has supporting evidence
i make theories in the shower and completely forget them the exact moment i leave the bathroom
i just want to have a cutscene with the king/prince
the day we get that, Quinoa, i will explode
i will too
this chat
i will cry
tears of joy
I want to dig the game up
but that's...illegal.
eh,better safe than sorry
BUT THAT KING SURE IS BIG
my friend estimated that version of the king would have been between 1000-2000ft tall
What are those pictures
concepts
Wait is that orbit-
eden
Ohh okk
the first one is the beginning of orbit
the other two are eden
I want to dig the game up
digging?
umm..
you mean for lore?
it shouldn't be discussed anywhere near here.
But yeah I really want to see what devs haven't given us yet-
yeppp-
also
the king
if he yeets us around
do we just
lose wls by being smashed into stuffs
or darkness consume us
coughs
maybe we shouldn’t talk about what may or may not be in the game files eh ?
I TOLD YOU NOT TO-
if the devs want us to know about it, they’ll show everyone
?
there’s no reason to be afraid of the mods
if thé situation is dealt with they likely won’t intervene anyways
anyways
maybe the light losing from hitting into walls was an old mechanic and stayed in game
from the king still existed time
but isn't children of the light the first chapter?
then Light Await would be the prequel
oh yeah it does, the foundational story wouldn't be call the first chapter
like the legendarium isn't the first chapter of middle earth, it just sets the expositions and core
Light awaits I thought it was the very 1st version of sky.....Is it a different game... Or I'm just getting confused
it is a different game, but essentially it is the first version of sky
Ohhh cool
it is kind of sad that Sky: Light Awaits was suppose to come to Apple TV, but it never came..
yeah eden in Sky Awaits isn't above the clouds yet, so the eden castle must have been drifiting upwards
"Sky Awaits", yes
*Light Awaits
essentially it’s a different game, lore wise
the story of LA changed frequently, as did it’s direction
We never got King fight in Light Awaits, but if King Fight is cannon for the LA story, then perhaps the prince was saved in the LA backstory, but only due to the sacrifice of the Elders, who are but barely attached to the places where they used to be. But then how was Tsadi's shrine rebuilt? Did a couple of kids restore it and move it inside after the King's defeat, installing a power diamond to fuel the memory of the gate lifting? And are we now just trying to pull the elders out of the states they entered long ago?
but COTL has more of a stable idea
Oh. :( ok.
tbf, LA is like sky's true beta
i do think king fight was intended to be in LA, considering the LA mural of 4 skids approaching the king/eden mountain
but is eden lore consistent?
but is eden lore consistent?
nothing was consistent
in COTL ? yes
but between LA and COTL, no
but what about the eden being in its place?
we don’t know what between LA and COTL changed, all we know is that lots did
there’s some stuff that’s obvious
other stuff that’s unclear
you can see in the pins an imgur where LA it's pretty much compiled, with the pass of time
afaik the eden mountain in the background has remained practically the same, aside from improved graphics
it just looked like a staircase of clouds
brick is def vault vault
same, do you have picture evidence, lambda ?
LA or COTL?
you’re claiming that in LA, you couldn’t see the eden mountain from the first two realms, yes ?
you can see this in the trailer for LA
ok
uhhh, which trailer tho? I can't find a trailer for LA ;;
there's the full gameplay that lasts 11 hours 
oh boy 11 hours of pre-global 
poggers to anyone who has watched it completely, without skipping anything
i went through through tgc's channel and i found pre-global teasers
idk if this is the trailer
well it’s a teaser
o i thought they meant the same thing in english 😔
teaser is like « ooo hey look at this short clip of something we’re working on » and trailer is meant to showcase the game and interesting aspects
the one on the main site isnt on youtube though
i have been enlightened
it is the same video just as a webm
my bad then
you can clearly see eden tho 
what
yeah
eden is there, just a different model
i am building on this that the castle is gradually drifting upwards
dam i was monkey brain and i thought that was orbit
supposedly LA and COTL is in the same universe
so you think that LA and COTL are in continuity with each other ?
yes
well me and null sort of agree that LA is a prequel
but COTL is the first chapter
11hrs, woah
that’s gonna be a lot of differences to explain
well, we can't really shut down your theory
godspeed
What's LA and COTL?
Light Awaits and Children of the Light
Mm thx
did LA release in 2017?
I think so
rather, think about a space in between 2017 and 2018
soft launch was in december 2017
Here's a message from the pins that tracks the development during LA
Sky beta history albums by @ShiraCheshire
Isle
https://imgur.com/a/1cYLqtx
Prairie
https://imgur.com/a/qOYH0ch
Forest
https://imgur.com/a/D13B7hK
Valley
https://imgur.com/a/ChyHlMY
Wasteland
https://imgur.com/a/j8LO1XE
Vault
https://imgur.com/a/McjDeo4
Eden
https://imgur.com/a/fDWUUyy
Orbit
https://imgur.com/a/PSXLmRM
Home/Aviary
https://imgur.com/a/ZbOOVnv
it going to be hard to explain all the differences , rip my theory
orbit wasn't even implemented in LA
I really want to see what's in the first version of Sky
Bet the phone was even hotter than right now
Not having Orbit makes a lot of sense if it's a prequel though. It just means it wasn't until the king was defeates in Light Awaits that Orbit was even accessable. Before then, children were focused on "returning the light" i.e. restoring ancestors and elders to the point where they were strong enougb for the events of cotl
I mean, technically, orbit did exist in LA, just not in the way we have it nowadays
just check the link to the orbit album
I haven’t seen anyone make the Laniakea(the supercluster the Milky Way is in) Megabird comparison yet 
Megan is real 
I'll have to investigate a bit to be able to articulate something
Laniakea in Hawaiian means 'open skies' or 'immense heaven'

always has been to my knowledge
I have looked around many of times and havent seen it
it's related to an old beta quest
like the bird just before citadel
Yeah it was an old beta quest to go and land on it
Aahh I see
Like the citadel bird, the eggs in boneyard, etc
I feel like the general rule of thumb is if something seems out of place or not important it’s either an old beta thing, or an old seasonal nook, like the gratitude forest tunnel
or some Easter egg like oreo 
Haha
Even the invisible boat is an old beta thing I believe
what invisible boat?
in prairie
don't think that's descriptive enough ηoom
lol, sorry sorry
it's in the village area of prairie (where we activate the bells), in between the clouds I believe
hmm
very interesting
it's better if you look it up, I'm not a knowledgeable person
you can but office was confirmed some time ago not to be cannon to the sky world
(right?)
I think I have the LA-> cotl timeline mostly figured out.
- Home is deep under water, but still creates caterpillars (wingless moths) regularly. The caterpillars cannot sustain their light and pass out.
- caterpillars are carried by the waves to the isle of dawn, and litter the beach.
- One of the birds accidentally gives light to one of the bodies. It awakens and begins to explore while the bird watches curiously.
- Megan decides to use the caterpillars, and instructs them on how to do stuff, eventually granting them wings.
- Sky Kids learn to follow ancestors and give light. Ancestors learn that this new race will do a lot for identity and expression. The candle trade is established.
- Through the trade, ancestors become significantly stronger. Additionally, Sky Kids collect pieces of spirits and bring them to the castle to be properly recombined.
- Sky kids face the king and fail. A lot.
- one group succeeds in bringing light to the king. The prince escapes the crown that made them king, and guides the first sky kids to Orbit.
- after the kids are reborn, the Prince is tasked with helping the remaining kids make it to orbit, and calls to the children in Horizon to guide them on their journey.
- The water level at home is reduced, and new caterpillars can make it to the isle shores while awake.
- beached caterpillars are awakened until there are none left.
- the candle trade continues, and makes the ancestors strong enough to make the trip to Orbit.
- Further candle trade makes the ancestors capable of bringing the elders with them.
We are caught up to present day
Thanks for that 
Gah I forgot a thing hold on
not to take that down but what about the caccoon that caterpillars go into?
i thought moth was a fan name?
or would that be the name they have while under the teaching of megan?
@hushed steeple it is. But you know exactly what I am talking about when I use it
Jouske, caterpillar cause pre wing moth
yeah I know
what exactly caused the Storm?
but the stage in-between that where they would be in a caccoon?
Nah, just naming scheme
the fundamental problem with local supercluster, there is no way you can view it with a naked eye, it is simply too large. by the distance where you could, it would mean we are outside of the supercluster to be able to view its full image, so we are not the megabird's children ;(
unless we "see" diferently
i was watching the 11-hr light awaits gamplay but iirc capeless starts at Home rather than in isle?
where can you watch it?
the first mural in the isle temple is eden...
if only Children of the Light gave eden lore that easily
ikr
light awaits had so much
but then again their idea of the light was just a fat bright circle skykids ran into
then u had to do everything again
funny thing is tgc defied the idea that ascent is a good thing ... initially
reminds me of a particular animation
That's ok. I am sure we are gonna get a good payoff
lore is subtle in children of the light
one day we will get an eureka moment
unless we "see" diferently
it could be an astral projection
so we have hubble eyes
sounds about right
Maybe it's like a memory? Not quite what's there, but also not quite not what's there?
lol an astral projection is an out of body experience (lemme go and look it up real quick)
oh
I thought you meant
nevermind
I think that darkness isn’t evil, but a form of light. They tried to harness darkness as energy but it corrupted everything and destroyed things.
cant u blind a krill
i mean in battlefield when you wake up the krills
their light blinks then turns blue again
so there are moments when they cant see at all
are you new to the lore?
Matter CAN move but it would deconstruct every atom in you body. So it is more likely that your soul teleports and you body is disposable. Possibly clay. It is also possible that you enter the body of the next return shrine and your old body goes to the one you started at.
wait what
Process: Soul moves, body enters return shrine one, soul enters return shrine two, return shrine one gives to return shrine two
woah
Matter CAN move but it would deconstruct every atom in you body.
i feel like this is what happens, tbh
other creatures in sky are made by their respective « elements » (light/dark) coming together like atoms or molecules
i don’t think it’s far fetched to believe we are similar
lmao what’s time
We are neither Lipitor or dark we are fluid constantly shifting between the two
i just think we’re both
or are we...? 
reincarnation my friends
if the king wanted every source of light for himself
or he was forced like the other half of is believe
the king just eats light
no theories are right and that’s the fun part 
We are neither Lipitor or dark we are fluid constantly shifting between the two
my theory was that we decompose into raw light and travel through the siphon/portal
I think it's the early morning crowd that thinks the king is innocent
like 6am est
eats popcorn in beta
bricky
no theories are right and that’s the fun part
a cursed gift
he has returned
If the devs could confirm one thing....
Does anyone know what the big bones are in graveyard is?
the creature in graveyard has been nicknamed whurtle
we should make a doc for dev questions
it’s a creature with a turtle head and a whale body
they apparently look the the mask of the water prophet
so when a dev is online and some lore members are on, they can ask on the behalf of others who may be away
You know there are two things that stars do when they get to big
Supernova or white dwarf
Mega bird supernovad destroying wasteland
Creating stardust
Yes
I personally believe that we're the king / a creation of king's final light before he became fully corruted
We are stardust made from Megan
Ooo speaking of Megan the credits scene looks so pretty
And the king will supernova soon
they could also become a neutron star if they are massive enough
No matter can ever be created or destroyed, as there is a fixed amount in the universe
Also, can I just mention that I saw a theory that we're the Skids V.2; but what if we're the v.1 version, and the v.2 just failed in restoring the world's balance?
The reason I say this is because The skids we lead through eden and into orbit only need 1 one WL (perhaps an improved version of the 10 max WL?) and we need at maximum, 10, to actually go there.
cough blackhole cough information paradox
like
Orbit is a black hole
@mossy trellis
Black holes have the absence of any and all light, so it's not a black hole.
It's just space ^^
Megan supernova’d creating orbit and pulling mass up from the ground making eden mountin
There's nothing more to orbit than it being space
White hole is a theoretical physics concept
it’s possible
Orbit is a black hole but somehow ypthe center of black hole connects to home pulling in the light
Megan may have created Orbit (As far as I'm aware that's never been confirmed) but Megan isn't as technologically advanced as the Spirits and Skids
die, teleport to a friend who’s in stormlock too, et voilà, no storm
yes but i think that only goes up to the final stage of eden
Megan May have died
Orbit is a black hole but somehow ypthe center of black hole connects to home pulling in the light
@mossy trellis
Orbit, again, isn't a black hole. There's light and Black holes have absolutely no light; it's the absence of light itself.
Hey we are in a fantasy world
In the presence of a black hole time breaks
Everything ever is happening at once
It doesn't matter; black holes are scientifically described as the absence of light, and based off the pictures we now have of a black hole, it can be confirmed that there is absolutely no light.
we are a form of light entering orbit tho
A black hole has no light, and everything dies; the pressure within a black hole is so powerful everything, including light, planets, etc, are destroyed.
but we already died in eden
Force = mass*acceleration Has anyone found our mass
orbit is literally the opposite of a black hole. it’s a big ball of light !
We would be dead after entering said black hole, any form of our body would be destroyed. We are still light, and there is light in orbit.
White hole
orbit is literally the opposite of a black hole. it’s a big ball of light !
@lethal stump
THIS
imo we are spirits when we travel to the light
We would never be able to escape a black hole, spirit or not.
We still give off light, though.
Our wing power shows this.
cause we couldnt have any light when we flew to the light otherwise we would die
but that doesnt necessarily mean we have light
but we don’t look the same as spirits in orbit
they’re translucent, we remain solid
solid & glowing
fair enough but i think we are not light when we enter the light
thats my personal opinion
I've gone through eden so many times, and now we glow in eden and orbit
@lethal stump The. Orbit is> orbit is literally the opposite of a black hole. it’s a big ball of light !
we are some form of light tho
we’re half light half darkness
not the one we usually are
So you cannot say we do not have light; we quite literally glow in orbit.
Orbit is white hole
it aint the normal light
It's the same exact light that we have during the trials.
« cannot be entered from the outside »
stares at the scene where everything is flying into orbit
orbit is literally the opposite of a black hole. it’s a big ball of light !
@lethal stump
We enter from a warp point
We do not, though.
i wanna talk about the junk we see when we ascend eden now tho, after u guys have finished discussing what orbit is
We enter from the big ball of light
we just fly straight into it
as does everything else
also we dont have a choice but to go to orbit after we die in eden
King statute in eden social hub... but it looks like a key too 
is that in light awaits?
no, thats there
Regardless, if a black hole / white hole were that close, the world of the Sky People would be destroyed; everything would be sucked in.
Aren't stars big balls of light?
...no
White holes push out not in
So orbit is not a black hole / white hole
stars iirc are masses of Really Hot gas
White holes push out
Which kinda produce huuuuuge amounts of light
we aren’t teleported
We would be pushed away constantly then, and never be able to go into orbit.
White holes push out not in
@mossy trellis
we are literally PULLED into orbit
I stand corrected
When you hug the shiny lad, the beam shows up and if you even jump, itll pull you in
and from there it’s a one-stop track to orbit
It's not a black or a while hole, orbit is a mass of light that all creatures of light swarm
The beam is a warp zone
orbit literally pulls us in
The beam is not though!
Like at home
i wish we had more about the eden elders to talk about
Also how are all our freind in orbit, not really
In EARLY beta, we flew up, I'd like to believe it's leading us up to the sky, the same exact way!
like i really want to be able to save the elders
everything is the sky
in the opening intro, it states that
I'm aware.
theres basically a fat amount of darkness right under us
What if all the elders combines o turn into king
Nope, they don't/
literally eden is a small glimpse of what is underneath is
tbh i don’t think GW is in the clouds
Also notice that ascended spirits are orange
yes because orange in sky is a sacred colour
gw is a realm so it must be
orange/yellow represents light
We shoot down though, way far
theres basically around 500000 krills worth of darkness lurking way underneath us
Past the clouds themselves
also there’s massive bodies of water/ooze in GW, and all the clouds are above you, and to get into GW you go through a whirlpool of clouds to get down there
eden just became unbalanced
speaking of golden wasteland,
it is under the clouds
so maybe it was a secret place only the factory workers could visit
and the king
i believe that at one point it sunk
also there’s massive bodies of water/ooze in GW, and all the clouds are above you, and to get into GW you go through a whirlpool of clouds to get down there
@lethal stump
We also shoot straight downwards from Valley, and it's from the land of sky where the dressing rooms are. I believe that GW could be the world that was inhabited by those who couldn't fly / were trained as an army.
yeah that storm sucks us into gw
also the "white krill" that travels between the clouds from valley to gw
There is no White Krill.
you mean whale ?
yes
All Krill are made of darkness
i call it the white krill cause you lose light touching it
its not hostile tho
we see it again ascended eden
ascending
I've touched it plenty of times and have never lost light
hm thats weird
what
Also, it's in the area that was added during the Season of Belonging
there is no white krill? that is the whale
i dont mean an actual white krill
there is no white krill? that is the whale
@hushed steeple
They said they call it the white Krill since you lose light from it, but I've never lost light from it lol
this happens with all whales
anyway
I've...never lost light from touching the whale in GW
I don't know if that's a glitch ut
but**
the one in the cavern and the whale from the ascension sequence all exhibit this behavior
I mean you do see them in orbit if you complete all constellation
but i mean go through the storm
maybe not give light to all the statues but just go through the storm and ascend eden
Maybe! There is all elder statue before orbit right after whale hit
it must be suggesting something about elders...? There is building in eden, maybe it can also be abondened in the castle...??? But I think the elders ascended idea is better
was the season of rythmn before the season of enchantment?
yup
i think
yeah
gratitude
lightseekers
belonging
rhythm
enchantment
sanctuary
prophecy
yes you are right
imagine a season in eden
so much funnn
the spirits more than anything else would be interesting
the spirit memories would be the KEY
i can imagine it
hide and seek in eden and first place get ultimate gift
eden constellation? You mean the "you and me" one in orbit? :o
eden constellation is a crown
O that one
my bad I was thinking about the two sky kids one in orbit
lol
before turning into that it's simply a crown which looks awfully similar to the fav friends
is the person sitting in front of the castle the king or the prince or someone?
the person is holding... a circle...? What's that
some say it's the Flame
OMG @grand swift I NEED A SEASON IN EDEN
eden constellation is a crown
@grand swift
That's the constellation for the deleted eden elder 🥴
I AM LITERALLY READY TO PAY 100$ FOR THE PASS
but what other constellation is there
@uncut root if theres another show me
@uncut root if theres another show me
@grand swift
The constellation is for the king, who WAS the eden elder I believe
Elder being used very loosely
just because the eden elder isnt here doesnt mean he isnt existent anymore, and that is the constellation
wait no im dumb
hang on
was or still is, they're in-game ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ
Eden used to be a small city right? I can't remember I might need to pull out timeline again-
yeah they have tons of statues and stuff
We have the constellation now, and it's used as our friends list (they used to be identical)
Hence the theory of why we're the king reborn
ezra, have u seen tom zhaos website?
I haven't.
We are too late to save eden like we saved 6 realms so that's why there're no spirits nor elder there. But since its a realm and has constellation there probably have been spirits and king was the elder.
The ultimate probability would be the
Kings mask
there actually is a kings masks, but im afraid i cannot discuss it
otherwise i shall get mued
Ooooo can u discuss it in dms?
i NEED to know
i cant send u dms tho
Yes please
man i was thinking about a draft about lore yesterday before sleep now I can't remember a thing 
Oh
tom's sky stuff djchnf https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
can u turn dms on
Neither can i, brb
Hold on.....doesn't this mean we use dead creatures of light to recharge...
@grand swift it says my dms are on what am i doing wrong(
wait it is darkness bc darkness will "trap manta"
HOLD ON WE ARE A HYBRID...
check ur privacy settings
@uncut root welcome to the club, explore further more
helps alot
WE'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO THE SKIDS IN EDEN
mhm
mhm
Ta daaaa
Wondering if the light creatures were more human than they are now, and helped to create the current skids...
I had a theory about this pic.
Someday some season will come and we'll be given the option to become cursed

could be old concept, but it make sense that kids in eden need to be saved by us in order to reborn or be freed
Since the Sky People are more advanced...some weird experiments went on..
maybe if we become corrupted we could actually communicate with the king
corrupted like the kids with blue stone in them 
hm...We're not as peaceful as we should be..
Based on this we are cursed to an extent (Reliving the same journey over and over)
dead kids in eden are stones -> we wear stone mask -> ???
oh no
We're made of human, animal, and flame.
Some weird experiments had to've happened
Quinoa still can't send u dm((( can u sent me a friendship request?
kids in eden is the ones who failed to "return the light"...?
Reminds me of megan and journey...
since they are "damaged by dark creature or storm"
So different amounts of light(flame) in skykids makes them different?
Ezra those are in pins you don't have to send everything 
Those are small mantas inspired by doves
Huh...we see a lot of the bottom right in eden..
DW IM ONLY SENDING STUFF I FIND INTERESTING-
I think so
@uncut root You sure?
So different amounts of light(flame) in skykids makes them different?
im assuming
too much light = winged light
no light at all = corrupted
okay uh this is stupid nvm
Hey yall I’m trying to read up more about the general storyline of sky so far... is there something like documents filled with information on solid theories so far or is everything word of mouth?
Hey...turrets, where are these located?
there are a bunch of docs with canon stuff in the pins
^^
i guess i gotta send the moff doc now hh hold on
lol
hold on I got it
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
Og by Bricky
ha
dang to slow
rip
This confirms locations of what's on the ground and what's not
i really like tom zhaos art its very good
ezra keep in mind most of the art he produced was concept
ezra this is concept art it might not be in the current game
yeah
hey there is no vault in the map :0 Could be added later on but I think at that time the dawn to night concept has been created
I wanna know if creatures were tamed for travel at all
you can ride mantas but thats it
b o a t
hey there is no vault in the map :0 Could be added later on but I think at that time the dawn to night concept has been created
@runic laurel
Maybe because Vault is inside the mountain, I think (not really sure)
spirit are friends with light creatures! Animal calls
Can someone tell me why the camera moves? Like why is it not able to just stay still? I already read about it in a doc but I did not understand. So can someone tell me so I understand better?
wdym
don't have to spoil office quinoa
wdym
@grand swift When you move the camera to take a pic of a spot it moves back to a direction. Not sure if it’s specific.
I don't think it portrays to the lore of the game imo
Does not matter. You just move the camera and the camera does not stay still it moves back.
the camera drift sometimes
thats just how it is
because it auto focus on the character
because it auto focus on the character
@runic laurel ?
hidden forest somehow reminds me a lot of eden
Yes it focus on your sky kid, it is auto drifted
the power diamonds, the rain that makes u lose light
camera control is very difficult in sk
@grand swift So your telling me the reason the camera in Sky is the way it is because it’s difficult to get it to stay still when you move it?
some think that teth and resh where related in some way
Yes it focus on your sky kid, it is auto drifted
@runic laurel Gotcha.
it is confirmed somewhere that forest and vault elder are related
it focuses on ur skykid
@grand swift I see. Take it the camera is gonna stay like that then if they try to change it.
I don't remember names
the elders have names
Reminder that the elders and spirits are made of darkness
right here bud
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
yes
It's hard to remember names 
also sam and mekh AHAhaHAAHAhaH Still laughing at this from yesterday
well for the elder names
daleth makes sense for me
daleth is d, and there is delet which means door
so it means door unto the sky universe
lamed also makes sense for me
cause it means learn, knowledge and the letter sounds very similar to the word idk what it is
so isle is door and vault is to learn cause they were scholars and stuff
stuff has been changed alot from the time we first saw the elders with these names
idk if that one means anything tho
show us a pic
Btw, Elder names are no longer canon and aren't connected with the game's lore.
They're just fanon now
ik that
they're almost hidden around the map

