The diamond has the same particle effects coming out of its top as the orbit light “elevator”
#lore-discussion-spoilers
undone harbor
what orbit light elevator-
scenic hedge
what orbit light elevator-
@undone harbor the thing after you hug the child and get your light back
undone harbor
OH
scenic hedge
bruh moment
scenic hedge
It could just be reusing assets but I think it’s a little too coincidencental
Tgc devs know what their doing when they design areas
scenic hedge
I think it’s neat because it supports my theory
undone harbor
we are on another level on top of eden
scenic hedge
The king is a terrible person theory
undone harbor
ah
him?
scenic hedge
Yes
undone harbor
I choose humiliation to cope
scenic hedge
We khow that the Eden king fell with the stars,however he falls last,implying that he wasn’t ready to leave and wanted to stay until he couldn’t and was forced down with the elders
undone harbor
that somehow aligns with my theory too-
scenic hedge
We also see two shield designs in battlefield
Implying there’s two sides of the war
undone harbor
yeah
scenic hedge
The gw elder switches between shields meaning he may if switched sides
undone harbor
which shields did he change again
scenic hedge
The vault elder was probably aware of everything but couldn’t leave because of her oath or because protecting vault was her duty
undone harbor
the sun to diamond or the diamond to sun
scenic hedge
Uh
Why the king is terrible and also the gw elder going a-wall
The vault elder seems to be the most kind and open
From body language and her cutscene
So It would make sense that she took pity on the rebels and decided to listen to them instead of shunning they like the other elders
The gw elder is the realm adjacent to her,and his temple leads into her realm
So I’d make sense that they would talk and that gw elder would believe ve
undone harbor
I have a headcannon that vault elder was a really awkward person that got the position
and she masked it with a cold face
scenic hedge
She seems serious but also kind to me
She prioritizes protecting vault but is open to outside input
undone harbor
she might be the one who shunned all and everyone followed her because KNOWLEDGE
gilded fossil
/oh yea seal mind if i dm?
scenic hedge
I mean
hushed steeple
U r literally discribing blue diamond.... in a way....
hushed steeple
U know from steven universe
undone harbor
yeah they looked the same,thought about it plenty of times
scenic hedge
If she had the knowledge then she would probably be able to put together why the power diamonds where bad and stuff
I don’t think vault elder went outside of vault a lot
scenic hedge
Skykids are Steven and Eden king is white diamond
hushed steeple
Thats white i guess
scenic hedge
Anyways
King was probably the one that shunned the rebels and forced their hand
The prophets probably told the king about the power diamonds and everything so he did it knowing he could destroy everything
hushed steeple
Nah forest made the diamonds
scenic hedge
.
hushed steeple
Anyone a fan of dirk gently?
scenic hedge
The power diamonds where made out of dark stone and light mixed together I think
hushed steeple
Not darkstone
scenic hedge
Anyone a fan of dirk gently?
@hushed steeple that is not important right now
hushed steeple
Darkstone is an old name for darkness plants i think
scenic hedge
I see you lurkers 👁️
delicate coral
We technically don’t know for sure what the other half is
It could be darkstone, it could just be wood from the trees
hushed steeple
But it isnt darkness plants cuz otherwise the crying spirit could have come out...
scenic hedge
I think it’s half darkness material half light
hushed steeple
Yup
scenic hedge
But it isnt darkness plants cuz otherwise the crying spirit could have come out...
@hushed steeple w h a t
The trees aren’t dark
hushed steeple
It is prob made of pots..... listen to its sound...
delicate coral
It doesn’t necessarily have to be half dark, could be half neutral too
scenic hedge
The darkness plants where not intentional
I don’t think power diamonds are made out of pots
hushed steeple
The trees aren’t dark
@scenic hedge no the darkness plants... if the crying spirit was mining them they could have gotten out by breaking the plants or summin but they werent...so...
scenic hedge
I
hushed steeple
The darkness plants where not intentional
@scenic hedge go to vault and listen and then think abt it plz
scenic hedge
I already have
hushed steeple
Rlly?
hushed steeple
Then go to the top of the cave in prairie and l8sten and then come back...
delicate coral
Hang on what do you mean by ‘not intentional’
hushed steeple
I spent my nights obsessing over lore
@scenic hedge oh yeah and then im so tired sneep comes naturally
scenic hedge
Hang on what do you mean by ‘not intentional’
@delicate coral I meant that after something triggered them to grow they started growing naturally
Idk if darkness plants happened before the fall or after
hushed steeple
Thats ..... not how plants work...
scenic hedge
Thats ..... not how plants work...
@hushed steeple darkness plants aren’t actual plants
They are fantasy plants
That adhere to fantasy rules
Plus things do trigger certain plants to grow
Like fire
gilded fossil
/yall imagine darkness be growing because they wanted to
hushed steeple
Hey guys i think i found the light the light miners were mining.....
scenic hedge
The light miners where probably mining stone
delicate coral
I mean, it’s in plain sight in the memory pyre 
There’s light ingots right there in the middle of the cave
scenic hedge
Darkness plants can only be destroyed with fire
Probably
It’s the only way we ever see them destroyed
hushed steeple
But they were light miners..... they mined light..... not stone... they were cracking the stones in search of something and i think i found it....its a mine not a quarry
scenic hedge
Of course it’s not a quarry
delicate coral
Just because we only see them being destroyed by fire doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the only way they can be destroyed
hushed steeple
Of course it’s not a quarry
@scenic hedge yes so its not the stones they were mining
scenic hedge
Just because we only see them being destroyed by fire doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the only way they can be destroyed
@delicate coral darkness plants grow back extremely quickly so anything else like a stone or pickaxe would probably only work for a few seconds
hushed steeple
U could stop giving it light and it would die...
scenic hedge
U could stop giving it light and it would die...
@hushed steeple D A R K N E S S P L A N T
delicate coral
They feed on light though
scenic hedge
??????
hushed steeple
Not like real light.... rather... mantas or ligut inside the ground or stuff like that
gilded fossil
/do they?
delicate coral
True story
scenic hedge
Their not a real plant
hushed steeple
Their not a real plant
@scenic hedge scroll up a teeny bit
scenic hedge
ITS A FANTASY PLANT GANG
delicate coral
Dark creatures and dark plants will try to take light from you
hushed steeple
Dark animals and plants need to consume light in order to survive
scenic hedge
Then why aren’t the darkness plants and krill dead
hushed steeple
Cuz they feed everyday
scenic hedge
They where around for hundreds of years before skykids where born
hushed steeple
Mantas n birds
scenic hedge
Ok ok ok
delicate coral
lol I don’t think it’s valid to say “it’s a fantasy plant therefore it doesn’t adhere to real plant rules”... you could equally argue the same for something like nirnroot in the elder scrolls, even though it clearly does function like a regular plant
undone harbor
they just
exist
they are darkness's manifestation
they feed on light because they can
not because they need
I think
scenic hedge
lol I don’t think it’s valid to say “it’s a fantasy plant therefore it doesn’t adhere to real plant rules”... you could equally argue the same for something like nirnroot in the elder scrolls, even though it clearly does function like a regular plant
@delicate coral ok but we don’t khow that,that plant just can vibe in your pocket for months without rotting,can a regular plant do that?
seal yes
kind musk
delicate coral
Game mech tings
hushed steeple
They r fantasy plants and they prob dont follow rl plant rules but they r dark thijgs so they follow the darkness rules of sky which is they eat light stuff
kind musk
What are we talking about?
delicate coral
In any case my real point is that I think it’s a case of Occam’s razor, it’s just a lot easier to assume it works like a real plant unless there’s a specific part of their function which suggests otherwise
scenic hedge
Plants
kind musk
👁 👄 👁
undone harbor
the plant in sky is special though
gilded fossil
/they give wax
undone harbor
lives in oilly place
gilded fossil
/for pants
kind musk
Darkness?
undone harbor
clear water place
gilded fossil
/realyy seal?
undone harbor
yeah wasteland
undone harbor
and even ground or structors
gilded fossil
/also maze in valley
delicate coral
Prarie bell tower not oily
scenic hedge
The plants grow back in seconds
hushed steeple
And prairie temples
scenic hedge
That’s not normal for regular plants
undone harbor
Prarie bell tower not oily
@delicate coral W A S T E L A N D
hushed steeple
Prarie bell tower not oily
@delicate coral that
gilded fossil
/sanctuary
hushed steeple
That’s not normal for regular plants
@scenic hedge let me introduce you to ivy...
gilded fossil
/ 1 place with no darkness is vault iirc
undone harbor
mould
scenic hedge
@scenic hedge let me introduce you to ivy...
@hushed steeple seconds
undone harbor
darkness plants be like moulds
gilded fossil
/wet and stinky?
scenic hedge
I’m just gonna say it
chilly jewel
its probably not relevant but when i 1st saw the plants it reminds me of Elaeomyxa Cerifera
scenic hedge
Darkness plants don’t behave like regular plants
undone harbor
and grow furiously in wet and warm places
scenic hedge
That is all
gilded fossil
/does mold grow on humans?
chilly jewel
look at it aa
gilded fossil
/oooh
undone harbor
THAT-
scenic hedge
HMM
gilded fossil
/looks similar wa-
chilly jewel
they are really really tiny thoughhh
scenic hedge
What about the leaves tho?
chilly jewel
Elaeomyxa Cerifera!
undone harbor
everything in sky is giant
delicate coral
Everybody gangsta until the real life darkness plant turns up
scenic hedge
everything in sky is giant
@undone harbor except for us
normal berry
b u r n i t
scenic hedge
Quick grab a candle!
chilly jewel
@undone harbor except for us
maybe sky isnt a big world but we are actually all just irl moth size
gilded fossil
/arrgh i need pants
normal berry
everything in sky is giant
except for chibis
gilded fossil
/burrn!
undone harbor
also that has a chance of burning down a whole forest
scenic hedge
Seal is working with them
normal berry
it will probably release spores irl hahahaha
undone harbor
so...you do you
scenic hedge
SEAL IS A SPY
scenic hedge
sorry seal
normal berry
oh my gosh seal is actually a child of darkness 
gilded fossil
/yeaaa
scenic hedge
normal berry
aww
scenic hedge
Seal wait
normal berry
gilded fossil
/anywayyyys
scenic hedge
What next
gilded fossil
/lore
scenic hedge
Adding plants to my never talk about again list
normal berry
I like the idea that we are canonically moths
scenic hedge
I like the idea that we are canonically moths
@normal berry like actual moths
normal berry
yus
scenic hedge
Like the bug
gilded fossil
/ sky bot what's a moth
pastel brookBOT
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
scenic hedge
I mean
normal berry
but I like to think that we are star ppl
scenic hedge
Skykids are weird
normal berry
or something
normal berry
clay?
scenic hedge
Hmm
scenic hedge
We never see another light creature die except for that one poor manta
And it just explodes into light
So idk?
normal berry
we are basically solar powered robots 😌
normal berry
🕯️
undone harbor
did someone say I was the imposter
scenic hedge
When we where first born we had no light,we just had our inner light to protect us
gilded fossil
/well
scenic hedge
Light acts as a sort of power source but also like
gilded fossil
/have you rewatch the into tho
scenic hedge
You only really have your heart to protect you
Your core
Once your first born
Once you find a wl you get a cape
undone harbor
oh my gosh seal is actually a child of darkness
@normal berry bold of you to assume I'm not one
normal berry
scenic hedge
You can’t really lose this cape properly
except for the trials
and that one 999 heart thing but we don’t talk about that
The cape becomes basically fused to your light
Making you stronger
Meaning that skykids are extremely fragile
Without a cape
undone harbor
looking at those bonks into walls,yeah we are that fragile
gilded fossil
/looking at those nose dive while landing, veerry fragile
undone harbor
but a head into a ground and still alright
I'm concerned for our legs
our entire body in general
livid valley
Not as good as teths one
scenic hedge
I mean a rock does us in
Anyways
Skykids don’t seem to need to eat or sleep
They just
Go
undone harbor
they don't have organs
gilded fossil
/pyromaniac
scenic hedge
they don't have organs
@undone harbor I mean that’s basically confirmed
undone harbor
but the sound of heartbeats can be heard??
scenic hedge
but the sound of heartbeats can be heard??
@undone harbor ????? Could just be sound design
Grrrrrr
undone harbor
yeahhh
livid valley
Game mech but you can make any theories you wanna
undone harbor
I heard somewhere that when you hold hands with somebody and listen closely you can hear heartbeats
undone harbor
I'm still not over sky's water physics
livid valley
Die breathing?
scenic hedge
WHAT ARE THESE THINGS
livid valley
I don't understand you guys rn
scenic hedge
When you give wl to the statues your skykids rip out their winged light out of their chest and throw it at the statue
undone harbor
oh-
scenic hedge
The white glowing boy in orbit
livid valley
That's breathing ?
undone harbor
he BREATHS?
scenic hedge
Ye
livid valley
W h a t
scenic hedge
I mean
livid valley
He breaths he don't breathing what
scenic hedge
Yeah I heard people talking about
livid valley
What
undone harbor
I'm sure all npc moves back and forth a little bit
scenic hedge
The only npcs we have are the spirits
Who are dead
And that one ||office|| girl
But she don’t count
scenic hedge
I mean
I try to get through Eden in like five minutes
So I really don’t pay attention
Because
Eden
livid valley
If I was that guy I wouldn't dare to breath some crystal going everywhere
livid valley
Skykids
young vale
When you give wl to the statues your skykids rip out their winged light out of their chest and throw it at the statue
that sounds like it hurts-
scenic hedge
that sounds like it hurts-
@young vale probably does
livid valley
Or probably won't
barren basin
The first time i enter this channel
livid valley
K
barren basin
When you give wl to the statues your skykids rip out their winged light out of their chest and throw it at the statue
And this is what i see
livid valley
Anyway wanna read the lore moff doc?
gilded fossil
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
/ Og by Bricky
barren basin
Oop i have bad internet
livid valley
Anyway read the doc to get started and actually won't get confused 👁️
barren basin
Imma read this in two days and then return to yall
young vale
Skykids may have organs, where are they gonna store all that WL?
lethal stump
it seems WL goes to our cape
livid valley
^^^ very likely
We literally need winged light to form a cape so it's pretty highly reasonable that it's stored there 
sharp jetty
hiii!!! Well this msg is to know if somebody has information from alef, Prince and ancestors, history from old sky, thanks!
lethal stump
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
i don’t have information from alef or the prince, but I have information about them
scenic hedge
hiii!!! Well this msg is to know if somebody has information from alef, Prince and ancestors, history from old sky, thanks!
@sharp jetty the king is a terrible person,that’s all you really need to khow
lethal stump
scenic hedge
B r u h
sharp jetty
Could you both send me info inbox pls 🥺
scenic hedge
He’s so tiny
livid valley
Boi Hes T O L
lethal stump
young vale
imagine the eden elder just YEETING the valley twins
livid valley
Probably they won't even want to go near king
scenic hedge
The prince kinda looks like a skykid 👀
Bruh
I hate the king
But I wouldn’t want to fight him
scenic hedge
I mean I do,it’s just that I’d probably die
lethal stump
in many concepts, the prince was supposed to be like us in some facets
scenic hedge
Monos only like 5 feet tall
zealous arch
Dang how do ya'll get so much lore from this game
scenic hedge
The king is about 20
scenic hedge
Dang how do ya'll get so much lore from this game
@zealous arch pay attention and get really worked up over tiny details
zealous arch
oh I know, it was a general comment of "wow ya'll smart"
livid valley
Look at that dust there? Yea make a theory about it
hushed steeple
I feel called out
lethal stump
you can make a religion theory out of this !
grand swift
is there a theory as to why at the point of no return so many rocks fall down in eden
scenic hedge
Bruh
livid valley
The big BOI diamond
lethal stump
at PNR ?
icy spruce
you can make a
religiontheory out of this !
@lethal stump
no don't-
scenic hedge
I got way too worked up over wings
And I made a whole theory
Just about wings
And patterns
And everything
And colors
livid valley
K
solar relic
all our braincells for lore 
scenic hedge
Yep
lethal stump
99% of my theories are just elaborate worldbuilding ideas
young vale
What if skykids had wings BEFORE ???
hushed steeple
economy...?
oh, like how the different social classes could afford and use different types of capes? :0
scenic hedge
My two braincells are clinking together like teacups
economy...?
oh, like how the different social classes could afford and use different types of capes? :0
@hushed steeple yea,colors indicated price
young vale
or what if skykids DO have wings but they cut em before they get long/seeable/ cover em with capes?
livid valley
Butterfly kids
scenic hedge
All capes where made from a specific pattern,as they are all identical,except for the more important people/ones who made them theirselves
I think in orbit skykids have actual wings
runic laurel
cape does look like wings sometimes especially when you are so bright... hey imma check it when i do eden run this week
livid valley
Still look the same when it's bright ngl
scenic hedge
The elders probably brought the ideas of the wings with them
livid valley
It's just bright
undone harbor
come to trials and experience the b r i g h t
scenic hedge
It's just bright
@livid valley when your in Eden it looks like your wings are merged with you because your the same color
livid valley
Ah yes colour
livid valley
So we can take off your wings and put a diffrent shaped one
undone harbor
f a n c y
icy spruce
yes, magical ponchos
scenic hedge
We where all thinking it
undone harbor
yep
livid valley
Sound like capes
runic laurel
technically the winged light is our wing, not the cape
scenic hedge
So we can take off your wings and put a diffrent shaped one
@livid valley in orbit we kinda become one with the light so??
Idk
bitter shale
why we cant take off our cape
undone harbor
I still stay with the light morphing theory
scenic hedge
why we cant take off our cape
@bitter shale we can
young vale
Our wings are just fancy ponchos
✨ Fancy Ponchos✨
bitter shale
how
undone harbor
because if we do it's like taking a part of your body off
scenic hedge
how
@bitter shale glitches / trials
livid valley
There's no animation of us taking it off or something
runic laurel
cuz game design you can't take it off
scenic hedge
So the trials just sever a part of your body off?
undone harbor
y e a h
bitter shale
lmao i mean like we can take it and give it to soemone idk
livid valley
Trials is not us who took off the cape
undone harbor
actually nah
scenic hedge
I mean
lethal stump
ive always imagined capes being attached to our bodies like appendages
undone harbor
the cape just disappear
sharp jetty
Alef is the King or the Prince?
scenic hedge
Skykids probably wouldn’t take off their capes
livid valley
Both
undone harbor
like you know light
livid valley
Maybe
lethal stump
commonly the prince is called Alef, however the King/Prince have been referred to both with the name Alef and Resh
hushed steeple
the trials are just the prophets snatching a part of us temporarily
scenic hedge
It’s like a sweater you grew attached to because you’ve had it for so long
runic laurel
trial is like a separate dimension where you don't have winged light
sharp jetty
Both? But the Prince is not the one we bug in edén? 🤔
livid valley
Bug?
scenic hedge
trial is like a separate dimension where you don't have winged light
@runic laurel you have your wl but not your cape
undone harbor
krill
bitter shale
like woods got cutted by a chainsaw
lethal stump
it’s a theory that we hug the prince in eden, but it’s not confirmed
undone harbor
maybe it's cracked already
runic laurel
O clean cut :0 interesting
scenic hedge
Oop
young vale
can skykids eat and the cape can be like a comfort item or just something we had when we were babies or sumn and thats why we dont take it off
bitter shale
livid valley
Maskeless exist and do you see mouth
bitter shale
no
scenic hedge
So the wl is stored somewhere in the skykids
undone harbor
the wl just change color
bitter shale
@scenic hedge in the cape
scenic hedge
B u t they change it
runic laurel
wl stored in the light circle on your chest I will say
undone harbor
It just change the form ok-
scenic hedge
Wl is probably stored inside their body’s
icy spruce
Right our skids have diamonds on their forehead and shirt? What if the WL are stored in there or something-
scenic hedge
And then transfers to the cape so it can be used
livid valley
I rather say the candle is at the chest which make sense when they took it out so suddenly
undone harbor
nah,then maskless is throwing away something
icy spruce
True
runic laurel
I agree, it is definetly stored in sky kids' body and show in a form of cape/wing
scenic hedge
Bruh it’s probably just a game mechanic we’re thinking about too much
hushed steeple
I'm with seal here; when we "buy" the capes, I think the spirits actually teach us how to manipulate the light so we can change the cape's color and form
scenic hedge
But I will continue to overthink it anyways
solar relic
undone harbor
this is lore chat
livid valley
K
runic laurel
maskless looks like your face's skin tone is darker than your arm 
undone harbor
we overthink things for fun
young vale
I'm with seal here; when we "buy" the capes, I think the spirits actually teach us how to manipulate the light so we can change the cape's color and form
why is that kinda smart, big brain seal
runic laurel
and yeah I think it is game mechanic tbh, its cosmetics
scenic hedge
maskless looks like your face's skin tone is darker than your arm
@runic laurel I mean actual people have different skin colors and on different parts
sharp jetty
We are half human half machine isnt it?
undone harbor
maskless is like
scenic hedge
We are half human half machine isnt it?
@sharp jetty I don’t think so
willow shoal
We are half human half machine isnt it?
omg
scenic hedge
We came from the light
bitter shale
wdym they changed it?
undone harbor
putting a black bag on our head
young vale
maskless looks like your face's skin tone is darker than your arm
gloves on the hands?
undone harbor
like how robbers do it
scenic hedge
We aren’t a a machine
livid valley
I think of us being made of clay
solar relic
we don't have any mechanical parts lol but we probably aren't fully of light
livid valley
With a hollow inside
scenic hedge
we don't have any mechanical parts lol but we probably aren't fully of light
@solar relic like the mantas and birds
runic laurel
also the pants changes the colour of maskless but its just a game design
undone harbor
proceeds to throw hollow knight in
hushed steeple
a hollow husk made to store light
willow shoal
all comes from light
livid valley
Indeed
bitter shale
@hushed steeple its not a turret lasser... they got different desigh
sharp jetty
I read some where we are half something and half something
willow shoal
With a hollow inside
@livid valley maybe light is inside?
undone harbor
we have glowing eyes
scenic hedge
Megan probably has the ability to create empty vessels and then fill them with light
She is a literal god
bitter shale
what if we are animated clay statues
livid valley
we have glowing eyes
Only with a mask
runic laurel
half light half shadow makes sense bc the pre-oribit scene?
solar relic
we could be half light half dark though it was stated in the concepts skids are a balance of light and darkness i wouldn't be surprised if it could be applied to current skids now
scenic hedge
God IT ALL COMES BACK TO HOLLOW KHOGHT
bitter shale
also we actually blink in chibi mask
undone harbor
Megan probally had some relationship with pale king or smth
lethal stump
megan is the radiance’s sister
solar relic
actually all masks could blink at one point but then it got removed
undone harbor
God IT ALL COMES BACK TO HOLLOW KHOGHT
@scenic hedge HOLLOW VESSELS THAT STORE SOMETHING TO GO ON QUESTS
lethal stump
wait really
scenic hedge
Megan was pks ex
livid valley
actually all masks could blink at one point but then it got removed
Like totally blink? Not some bug
scenic hedge
I find It funny because pk is like two feet tall and ek is like 20 feet tall
runic laurel
huh the mask blinking is so hard to explain... is it just a game design thing?
bitter shale
one thing i have noticed about this thing over here, it got broken down when we didnt lit the candle and fixed by itself when we lit the candle
sharp jetty
And what about the orbir bird, some information about it?
scenic hedge
And what about the orbir bird, some information about it?
@sharp jetty it’s called Megan
heavy eagle
God is a woman and her name is Megan
willow shoal
MEGAN: I’m the Light in your heart, do you hear my voice 
?
scenic hedge
Yess
lethal stump
@sharp jetty have you read the lore moff doc ?
scenic hedge
Megan created us
hushed steeple
Megan is light mamma
livid valley
Mega bird
scenic hedge
She represents the light
bitter shale
megan is spageth
lethal stump
megan is a horrible parent but yeah she probably made us
scenic hedge
Idk what represents the darkness
livid valley
The dark
solar relic
brick ono
willow shoal
Idk what represents the darkness
@scenic hedge maybe time
solar relic
i mean you're not wrong but i'm getting flashbacks
hushed steeple
Idk what represents the darkness
I think I remember someone making a theory about a dark Megan
runic laurel
O has anyone mention the solider by the stone thrower thing? Since it shows in a form of stone body but not spirit ghost, like the kids in eden krill area
one sec let me look up history chat
lethal stump
the way i see it, megan is both darkness and light
sharp jetty
@sharp jetty have you read the lore moff doc ?
@lethal stump no, where is it?
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@sharp jetty
bitter shale
maybe it can explain why there is two version of this logo here
livid valley
Indeed because Megan is so called God
runic laurel
BIRB
bitter shale
one is colored in golden while teh others is colored with bluish colour
hushed steeple
that's true, the way we usually see deities is 'God of life', 'God of death', but in some cultures there were Gods who had both concepts (life and death, in this case) associated to them
bitter shale
and blue represent darkness in sky... for a reason
scenic hedge
megan is a horrible parent but yeah she probably made us
@lethal stump what why is she terrible
solar relic
inb4 megan is in a persephone kinda situation
lethal stump
she sent toddlers to die endlessly to save a kingdom and peoples well past the point of no return
bitter shale
@solar relic care to elaborate-
willow shoal
well,my theory about dark creature:
just as our reality, the places where gains no sunlight all the time will grow moss, in sky world the places without light could grow darkness?
livid valley
Toddlers got used to it after all
solar relic
nah it was just a random thought because of the both life and death thing
livid valley
There is light but not much
bitter shale
aah i see
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@lethal stump oh ty :3
scenic hedge
she sent toddlers to die endlessly to save a kingdom and peoples well past the point of no return
@lethal stump I mean,what else was she supposed to do? The skykids are happy living the way they do,Eden is terrible but she really can’t control that much of what happens/
lethal stump
...send adults
scenic hedge
Plus we do save the spirits and return to Eden
livid valley
Lmao
bitter shale
what is this under this building
scenic hedge
...send adults
@lethal stump all the adults are dead brick
runic laurel
blue sky
bitter shale
the white flame thing
lethal stump
she could make more children, so just make more adults
willow shoal
The Lost Light is different from The Light
lethal stump
megabird is arguably the goddess of EVERYTHING. she could’ve made anything and decided to make TODDLERS to save the kingdom
livid valley
Now that's common sense
scenic hedge
megabird is arguably the goddess of EVERYTHING. she could’ve made anything and decided to make TODDLERS to save the kingdom
@lethal stump we see that skykids don’t age in orbit
solar relic
man you know that one post about wanting stories where the chosen ones shouldn't be 16 year old teenagers but instead grannies? imagine megan replaced skids with old people— the elDERS
sky: elders of the light when???
willow shoal
I always think about who’s the Light, now i think it’s megan
livid valley
Not only in orbit
scenic hedge
Skykids just straight up don’t age
livid valley
Yep
lethal stump
that’s just supporting my point that megabird is a bad parent
runic laurel
Now that you mentioned it, why didn't she do that? 
Did she lose the ability to creat the spirit adult? Or its something related to oh children are pure and innocent
scenic hedge
Plus Megan can’t really interfere that much,she just gives us little directions
solar relic
megan taking advantage of the naivety of children 
zealous arch
I mean, maybe megabird can't reach the land of sky through the storm, so can only work with what they have?
scenic hedge
I mean,we see baby’s of almost every species
livid valley
It might be the pure and innocent knowing they will get scared but will just get used to it maybe
bitter shale
okay but imagine this :
what if megan created us as todflers because she cant made a perfect humanoid?
okay, all we know about skids are kid-sized, immortal and cant aged. what if skids actually maed like that because megan is weakened? she cant made a perfect humanoid who can grow and aged
likely she is weakened
grand swift
where can u see megan
livid valley
Orbit
hushed steeple
scenic hedge
Mantas,birds and spirits have children
solar relic
orbit and credits scene
grand swift
anywhere else?
willow shoal
megan taught some kids to damage what itself created
grand swift
o
scenic hedge
So maybe she can only create children
And you just have to wait for them to grow up
lethal stump
@hushed steeple it’s not courageous soldier, it’s the boatmaker
livid valley
And they never will grow up
runic laurel
light creature has children makes sense tho
hushed steeple
I didn't make it tho
scenic hedge
Or she just throws the light out there with a basic idea and it forms itself
bitter shale
indeed, she can only skids liek we know now because she is in weakened state. she still ened skid, but cant make them perfect since she didnt have ability to do it
well more like since she is weakened
scenic hedge
I mean all of Megan’s children died
grand swift
can megan create a whole new light tho
solar relic
for me i have a morbid theory that the skids we have are just megan repurposing dead ancestor babies/children
scenic hedge
Of course she’d be weakened
grand swift
like she can just control v the light
livid valley
She's "God"
runic laurel
God is a women bird
scenic hedge
She’s the only one we khow
livid valley
In sky
scenic hedge
And even then
hushed steeple
God is a bird
livid valley
So your saying there might be multiple God's?
bitter shale
we noticed that skids are importan for sky realms. one of the most important is we are actually the trigger for the light creature to ascend to the orbit
scenic hedge
We don’t khow if she’s an actual god or just a personification of light
willow shoal
: Joking? Seriously?
scenic hedge
So your saying there might be multiple God's?
@livid valley probably
lethal stump
i want a t-shirt saying « I met god, she’s a bird »
livid valley
Can be minor Gods
bitter shale
imo Elders would be teh minor Gods
grand swift
I would like to see eden without the storm it would be so helpful
bitter shale
but who knows
solar relic
yall remember karen?
lethal stump
We don’t khow if she’s an actual god or just a personification of light
@scenic hedge wouldnt that arguably be stronger than a regular god
livid valley
Who's Karen
runic laurel
also what's up with the dead kids in light await spawn point? Makes me think about it a lot... The kids that failed to formed bc of Megan?
scenic hedge
Wait where?
solar relic
it was originally a crackpot theory by raf but basically there could be a megakrill being the darkness equivalent to megan and its name was megan
hushed steeple
Megan's failed attempts
livid valley
Oh light await spawn is diffrent?
bitter shale
yes
willow shoal
also what's up with the dead kids in light await spawn point? Makes me think about it a lot... The kids that failed to formed bc of Megan?
@runic laurel where??
bitter shale
in Lights Awaits
grand swift
sky light awaits
runic laurel
In Sky: Light await, there used to be 2 or 3 dead kids in isle of dawn where you spawn
bitter shale
beta sky
scenic hedge
Oh
livid valley
Man never looked that much to the app since I can't get it
solar relic
that's pre-global though, the lore was probs a bit more different
livid valley
Old Beta
grand swift
it had the shrines of the elders in orbit
scenic hedge
In Sky: Light await, there used to be 2 or 3 dead kids in isle of dawn where you spawn
@runic laurel I thought this app was family friendly
solar relic
we all thought it was until gw
runic laurel
could be used as reference but could be different lore storyline
livid valley
Oh sky is dark if you dig deeper
willow shoal
~~all are pre-testers except me
~~
runic laurel
sky is tagged as slight fear or something you had been warned before
bitter shale
also what are these golde things suppose to store
scenic hedge
Sky is very dark@if you dig deeper
lethal stump
LA had multiple different stories, and they ultimately decided on one that became COTL
hushed steeple
Oh sky is dark if you dig deeper
sky is dark, you just have to get to wasteland
grand swift
@bitter shale crabs
willow shoal
I know there are some dead skykids on the road to eden
scenic hedge
also what are these golde things suppose to store
@bitter shale they just pots
grand swift
I think
solar relic
those golden things look like the ones in forest temple
runic laurel
Sky is very very dark
livid valley
also what are these golde things suppose to store
Look like a lamp
Wait or is it used diamonds?
uncut root
Can someone explain the lore to me?
scenic hedge
Anyone need stormless pictures of Eden?
solar relic
on the two sides of the main attraction manta blender there's those diamond-shaped husks
grand swift
@scenic hedge meee
scenic hedge
Can’t do stormlock tho
runic laurel
the broken temple is almost a recreation of forest temple I think we can all agree
bitter shale
LORE MOFF LORE MOOF
solar relic
the lore is 
scenic hedge
@scenic hedge meee
@grand swift what part you need
livid valley
LORE MOFF LORE MOFF
scenic hedge
@scenic hedge all of them.
@grand swift o
runic laurel
PULL THE LORE MOFF
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scenic hedge
every single one u have.
@grand swift o h
uncut root
:0
grand swift
Send it to me in dms
solar relic
if you check the spinny thing in forest temple and in first krill area of gw you can see the tip, which is similar to that bunch of golden stuff in shipwreck
bitter shale
also what is this mark suppose to be
hushed steeple
also what are these golde things suppose to store
when I asked the same question, someone told me they were just diamond presses lmao
I think they were also used to transport already-made diamonds
bitter shale
this is where we can find the manta whisperer
livid valley
Manta juicer Boisss
solar relic
o yeah what boop sent, the centre structure of the spinny thingie matches those shipwreck stuff
runic laurel
you can see the spinny on the left hand side in dirty water, and the central meditation spot if where you can hide from krill. Broken temple must be related to forest temple in some way
willow shoal
just looking at the Tom’s concept art
livid valley
K
runic laurel
WHAT DOES THAT MEANNNN
bitter shale
also is it the same diamond like this
livid valley
Turtle quest be rollin
willow shoal
Wasteland used to be a factory
solar relic
i think gw first krill area is also a power diamond factory just like forest temple
livid valley
Indeed it is
hushed steeple
the industrial area of the kingdom
willow shoal
it’s also a port
bitter shale
gw is the finest multitasking city
solar relic
3-in-1 package
livid valley
Trading area too maybe
runic laurel
honestly... rhyme elder bird and sanctuary elder manta got me really excited to see what destroyed the ship eLder kRiLl
grand swift
when dark substances released into the air, krills and crabs and dark creatures were formed in golden wasteland
@hushed steeple no the former royal city imo used to be eden
solar relic
valley was the capital that we know
uncut root
I didn’t realize there was a king and prince???
livid valley
I didn’t realize there was a king and prince???
Eden elder
grand swift
runic laurel
also anything about the bone in hidden forest? There is a concept about light creature dying unnaturally will be left as bones
willow shoal
yes
bitter shale
@uncut root
solar relic
the bones are the skull of 
willow shoal
it crashed into the forest
uncut root
I joined right before the season of rhythm, what’s the eden elder?
Is that from where you could actually escape Eden??
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@uncut root the eden elder is gone over in here
solar relic
you couldn't see the eden elder even in pre-global
bitter shale
@uncut root ...uh you can see him in vault mural i guess
in the mural
flipping eden i only caused misunderstanding arent i
livid valley
Yea he's Tol
runic laurel
ah have anyone check the jellyfish cave in sanc? there is new wall painting update about lores but I forgot to snap a pic
solar relic
yeah that's a bug
livid valley
Mhm bug
hushed steeple
it shouldn't be there
runic laurel
Sanc be stealing lore moff
livid valley
People getting excited but got to hype 0 when they hear it's a bug
willow shoal
lore bug
solar relic
but even tho it's a bug that didn't stop peeps from theorising on it
bitter shale
anyway
grand swift
imagine eden but if at the end you had to face the corrupt kings wrath
god that would be so fun
solar relic
that was in the concepts yes but rip phones lol
livid valley
Fun and made Eden 6 times harder
bitter shale
nah
hushed steeple
we've had a fair share of mural bugs recently
bitter shale
i already raged with teh trials
grand swift
what is that picture
bitter shale
i didnt want to battle a titan
runic laurel
new trial but you have to dodge king's lightnings x
livid valley
King trying to murder you
grand swift
eden would be so fun that way
bitter shale
bitter shale
grand swift
wait was that actually a part of sky
bitter shale
no
grand swift
was it in light awaits
bitter shale
only a concept
hushed steeple
concepts
grand swift
aw
willow shoal
solar relic
only concept art
bitter shale
bones
hushed steeple
krills?
runic laurel
seems like a eden cutscene like every other ones after meditation in temple
bitter shale
the prince was suppose to be the one who drag our dead body to orbit lmao-
solar relic
those bones look kinda fishy ngl
hushed steeple
krills?
just look at their spiny backs
grand swift
@bitter shale ooooo that's fun
maybe the prince was the innocent one
Where do u get all those pictures?
bitter shale
@grand swift tom zhao's website
solar relic
tom zhao's website has most of the concept art
runic laurel
is prince one of the valley twins? I remember seeing something about it
yep nvm
grand swift
tysm
hushed steeple
the link is in the pins btw
bitter shale
@runic laurel nah
solar relic
oh that's a mix up of names. in some communities the twins are called alef and daleth for some reason. but actually the prince is alef and daleth is isle elder
bitter shale
imagien if we actually get this cape tho
solar relic
the concept arts calls the twins samekh, but some people like to split up the name for each twin to differentiate them
runic laurel
different naming in lore chat Got it 
solar relic
ooo pre-global cape designs were kinda similar to that
bitter shale
its still cool tho
runic laurel
Megan cape
lethal stump
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
young vale
brick is epic
willow shoal
well, we hug with ourselves when rebirth
bitter shale
this lad is tall
willow shoal
not the prince
lethal stump
17’4
hushed steeple
Samekh: hi, I'm Samekh, and this is my brother, Samekh
Samekh:
bitter shale
bro i just call them Sam and Mekh
livid valley
Pft
runic laurel
fire prophet is also pretty tall they can fight
solar relic
smkehr
runic laurel
sAm and MEkh
bitter shale
Samuel and Mekhane for my headcanon
young vale
this lad is tall
as tall as six and a half skykids
lethal stump
teth: hey samekh
both: yes ?
teth: no the other one
both, pointing to the other: that one ?
and this is why the twins got different hair styles
willow shoal
fire prophet is also pretty tall
@runic laurel so is the rhythm isle spirit
hushed steeple
the Samekhs
willow shoal
solar relic
damn kakashi hair really used pot clay to get their hair up
lethal stump
i do
Sam
Ekh
bitter shale
lmaooo
runic laurel
are you new to discord?
livid valley
Where are the emotes tho
What???
bitter shale
Samuel
Mekhane
i love those names lol
lethal stump
that’s not a lore question, try using google, Lavamoth
bitter shale
lmao boop-
solar relic
mekhane chemical formula ch4
uncut root
What if the winged light appear where they felt the most safe / happy?
livid valley
BOOP LMAO
scenic hedge
Bruh the spirits keep getting taller
uncut root
After they died in Eden
scenic hedge
After they died in Eden
@uncut root then why are they in Eden
livid valley
willow shoal
they?
scenic hedge
The next quest giver is gonna be the Eden king lmao
runic laurel
vault seems so strange to me, i know it is suppose to be a dreamy realm, but how come it is between wasteland and eden, the two most dangerous place, but yet so peaceful?
bitter shale
nice logo ngl
hushed steeple
The next quest giver is gonna be the Eden king lmao
you wish
bitter shale
is this the same logo with oen of season symbol
livid valley
Maybe it's just all a dream~~
bitter shale
scenic hedge
you wish
@hushed steeple I wanna harass him with tables
runic laurel
(also prophecy guide was so short in the teaser I think we are getting a smol bean guide)
pastel brookBOT
legend has it that ... everything will change
solar relic
the eden elder/king might be in game just not how you expect him to be
uncut root
Their bodies would be in Eden, but if we’re collecting the Winged Light’s spirits / light, wouldn’t it make sense for them to be where they were the most safe and/or happy?
scenic hedge
Leo
livid valley
Being happy inside your body huh?
scenic hedge
Eden is not where I would be the most happy
bitter shale
@uncut root who would feel safe near a krill tho
hushed steeple
King has krills as pets
uncut root
It depends really, on the child.
Some might enjoy the danger ✨
runic laurel
belonging might be a coincidence but 
is definitely not
scenic hedge
I mean the king was originally gonna be corrupted by darkness so yea
runic laurel
Tom has separate ones on his blog I think
lethal stump
this is slightly clearer i think ?
scenic hedge
willow shoal
they look quite same...
lethal stump
twins in ponchos twins in ponchos TWINS IN PONCHOS
bitter shale
@solar relic can you get the link-
lethal stump
the difference on mine is that you can read the lettering, on yours it’s more blurry
bitter shale
@lethal stump i would pay anything to have samekh in poncho
scenic hedge
The prince had a poncho
lethal stump
@uncut root thats beta spoilers, please delete
hushed steeple
twins in ponchos twins in ponchos TWINS IN PONCHOS
they really look like Greek gods, ngl
bitter shale
@uncut root that is eden crown
scenic hedge
Teth also had an umbrella,and a different design
lethal stump
they really look like Greek gods, ngl
part of me feel like that’s the point
scenic hedge
Honestly I wish they kept the lightning for Eden
uncut root
I censored and warned about the spoiler
livid valley
Beta is not allowed even though it's spoilered
scenic hedge
And something fighting you so you wouldn’t make it too the top
solar relic
https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977308462223360 here's the 7 days of sky thread with that pic, you can zoom in
harsh fiber
The devs intentionally made the game so we are not allowed to fight tho
@hushed steeple Play fight, anyone?
lethal stump
there is lightning in eden currently, but i think it’s rare on account of epileptic seizures being triggered by it
bitter shale
favorite forever
scenic hedge
there is lightning in eden currently, but i think it’s rare on account of epileptic seizures being triggered by it
@lethal stump Eden in the distance has lightning
solar relic
violence isn't advocated in tgc games
scenic hedge
I don’t think you would have to fight the king
livid valley
Jenova Dosent want us to fight
short owl
Twins in ponchos -> beta spoilers?!
scenic hedge
I think you would have to reason with him
frail hearth
brO "TETH'S FRIEND" THIS IS SO CUTE I
scenic hedge
AWWW
livid valley
Ah
scenic hedge
She had a fren
scenic hedge
Whale
frail hearth
whalen't
short owl
Tuna king?
bitter shale
@hushed steeple flying eggplant
harsh fiber
Yeah, but what would the normal whale named? Becaues we already have a whale... That isn't really a whale.
@hushed steeple Rock Fish
livid valley
Also if that whale was added it can just mean that the world could be the same?
Confuses me
uncut root
What crushed the Isle elders mask? (I think it was isle)
frail hearth
oh yeah human skykids
livid valley
Oh yeah what crushed the isle mask? Isle crushed it
scenic hedge
The concepts give me a mmo type vibe
uncut root
I don’t need the mockery thank you 👉👈
hushed steeple
the king yeeted him all the way to Isle
scenic hedge
I kinda wish we got to see the finished product of the concepts
frail hearth
he fell and it broke
livid valley
Bruh
frail hearth
elders are elders after all
runic laurel
grampa too old so it cracked
uncut root
Can our masks crush?
livid valley
Maybe and maybe not
solar relic
we haven't seen our masks cracked iirc 
young vale
We lose it, but not break it
bitter shale
Samekh are smol
runic laurel
cape can be riped so maybe mask can also be crack! There are too many mask maybe they just didn't design it
uncut root
But remember..there’s a cosmetic that lets us not have one
livid valley
Yeah the elder and Skid mask can be diffrent
young vale
Swag twins
hushed steeple
Samekh is my spiritual animal
livid valley
Animal
hushed steeple
guide lol
livid valley
Make sense now
runic laurel
since elders are always elders, valley twin are the princes/ princess of the valley city?! 
uncut root
Tbh,,our masks also disappear until we get recharged by a flame-
scenic hedge
Teths og concept art really is something
hushed steeple
when we lose all of our light, yeah
sharp jetty
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
@lethal stump i thought alef was the King and now alef was the Prince and resh the King?
runic laurel
i mean you do look like a dark child but with a white cape
scenic hedge
Teth give me your umbrella
lethal stump
alef can arguably be both, but the name resh was only used for the king
livid valley
Ah I misunderstood the sentence can't think properly in the middle of the night
solar relic
no @ me im sad we didn't get teth and this teddy bear lookin thing 
uncut root
So do we share a body with another light?
neat fractal
Teth could've been elegant with an umbrella
Now Teth is rocking that hammer
lethal stump
is it just me or does it seem like some of these had models, not just art ?
hushed steeple
specially Samekh(s)
lethal stump
imagine if all of a sudden the regular elders were replaced with these models
runic laurel
Teth just give angy mom vibe now
livid valley
King model will be very interesting
bitter shale
give me your umbrella maam-
runic laurel
Samekh old cutscene is so mature... The elders' personality show very differently in the cutscene we have now
UMBRELLA WITH A LANTERN UMBRELLA WITHA LANTERN
uncut root
So why are we able to respawn but none of the other children?
livid valley
Hm? Wdym
solar relic
the twins' cutscene in pre-global had more emphasis on their cooperation and general elegance of their capabilities but i love how their current cutscene adds more personality to them
livid valley
the other Skids so Respawn
uncut root
I mean, we die then are reborn, explicitly said before the credits
livid valley
Also*
solar relic
we are probably a new generation of skids separate from the eden kiddos
uncut root
But we lead the skykids after we die immediately
solar relic
wdym?
bitter shale
also, king jelly!
livid valley
Lead? What
frail hearth
teth kitsune
bottom text
uncut root
We lead them through the last spot of Eden (castle) and then through orbit to the light
livid valley
Hol up who are we leading?
solar relic
i mean,,, teth's hair is separated into nine sections,,;
scenic hedge
Kitsune hair
uncut root
The dead skykids in the point of no return ^^
runic laurel
KITSUNE HAIR
livid valley
Ah I see
neat fractal
Now I want Kitsune hair
scenic hedge
Now I want teths hair even more