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/okay bacc to my all time quesstion:prophets before or after the elders
cuz the stone masks and everything
@teal orbit this
even tho they learned stuff from daleth, the prophets prob worship megan
and treat daleth like an angel or summin
cuz the order is old
most likely before the fall of the elders
OMG WE REALLY NEED A TIMELINE FOLKS......
THIS IS SOOOOOO CONFUSING
@pearl void the elder masks r somewhat more chromy and metalic
@teal orbit i wanna say, prairie granpa may be one of the prophets too
Maybe one day I can be a prophet too! 
Ohmaigadd botttt
/goober has a very uncannon timeline
oooooh i wanna see
/ i say everything skybot says is canon
i could revise it to match our current undestanding of the world of sky
/yea i dont have link rn
But why do prophets prepare spirits for the trials & try & help em as much as they can, clearly it's not to know who the chosen one is... I think it's more than that it's as if they need the spirits to succeed

/sorry pyre
Yo, bot. U alright?
/yes im questioning bot wellbeing
But why do prophets prepare spirits for the trials & try & help em as much as they can, clearly it's not to know who the chosen one is... I think it's more than that it's as if they need the spirits to succeed
@dense umbra the trials r like a graduation test to see if they learned everything right
prob
i think
/maybe they wanna make chosen ones
hey guys we should make a timeline doc
Now now, a prophecy is told not necessarily by prophets, and prophet not necessarily a god, maybe just normal spirits with extraordinary astrology prediction, you know about planet and all
/huh tru
guys we should make a timeline doc
/lol too many docs tho Pyre?
Now now, a prophecy is told not necessarily by prophets, and prophet not necessarily a god, maybe just normal spirits with extraordinary astrology prediction, you know about planet and all
@pearl void prophets in most cultures dont act like that u know......
i better not prophe-see any spoilers here 
/and, besides, theory vaults has a timeline! you can edit it tho?
wait theory vault has a timeline?
I think pun unintended
/yea but like filled with theoried pyre
the thing about the theory vault is that everyones contradicting each other
and i know thats the point
so thats why we need a timeline doc or timeline pic
/well, there will be contradicting docs and pics if we each made one, and that will be too many docs, and that might confuse lore moffs. I get where you going tho
Maybe a doc is the wrong format then
/hmm?
We have contradictions because we are all exploring in the dark. Things aren't cleanly layed out in a way that google docs supports
We need something more open to exploration
/oh
What would you suggest then?
the theory wiki that is not out yet?
/yea tbh that might be what we need?
/nuh uh
/null i think bricky's and someone is doing the wiki, do tell him when hes online
Wikis at least allow referencial links that allow reducing the linear constraints of the document
I know they are
Sometimes I wonder what the spirits and elders think of sky kids. Do they like us? Or are they more indifferent- “what are these strange, short, light babies?”
/they thibk us be gatorade
Spirits probably like us more over time.
At first we are meh, but we kinda grow on them
do we tho?
Yeah that’s fair
/probably
I always thought that they don't know us at all, we are just watching something that was recorded a long time ago
/maybe the just see us as workers
i did an accomplished emote+high candle emote ata a frustrating spirit onece.......
I always thought that they don't know us at all, we are just watching something that was recorded a long time ago
@wide path
I agree- but I like pretending that they’re real-
/small little workers who want nothing more than hearts and pants, idiots who set things on fire
oh that reminds me
Pyrokids
That would make sense, I just thought they could see us because the elders interact with you, but I may be wrong
Lol
lol
guys if u light a fire in gw the whole place should go up in flames
so much sulpher and oil heck the lakes r oil too
/wastewater =oil theory?
or summin like that
I also believe that sky kids are made by who ever the spirits were at one point, like a golem, and sky kids are stuck doing thier last task over and over again
it's like leaving your perpetually-charging device on with spotify/your music player of choice looping the same song over and over again
Yes
guys just to be clear its: creation of sky> banishment of daleth> fall of the rest> creation of diamonds> golden age> fall of eden> us
right?
isle elder being banished isn't confirmed though
Ye
thats the most likely timeline i think
Not quite with the "most likely" tho
huh?
I don't know lol, but the last ones could have created the sky kids with the task of save us but they couldn't do it fast enough or something
/why water in the trial toxic?
@gilded fossil you can swim on it for a short amount of time during the lowerjngt tide (as soon as it starts to tise the tide kills you)
I think it is not "toxic", I think it is too cold, in that moment it is even really dark
/anyways, must sneep, have fun loring
What is this sneep you're talking about? I've never heard about it! 
any theory on why there arent any vault spirits in the prophecy cave?
/teb why you ping my og acc tho
There's a chance Daleth wasn't banished. There's also the other theory he got his face smashed cause he held back the storm and guided the other Elders so that they could escape and seal Eden
There aren’t?
@gilded fossil you can swim on it for a short amount of time during the lowerjngt tide (as soon as it starts to tise the tide kills you)
I think it is not "toxic", I think it is too cold, in that moment it is even really dark
@boreal nebula the trial is prob happening in your mind like a dream or a halluciantion
so it doesnt have to make sense
Vault could have been created after the events of prophecy
/yall this is Jen stop pinging the other accouny
Geez, my current headcanon timeline is entirely different from this...
Can't share yet tho
Lol
/oh
Nope
They happened later in the timeline?
So this natural elemental new aspect of sky is clearly important as it was first introduced in enchaintment & btought back again in this season here is an edit i made
Couldn't find the last one
they seem to be different things since their symbols are different
Bye folks imma sneep now...
Sleep well pyre!
my friend suggested that the enchantment lights are a crude attempt at mimicking the power of the elements
Remember, the one in Prophecy is probably ancient compared to the ones in Enchantment
So the symbols may be different-
I believe purple and red are artificial
The others are pretty much what Brick said
Could be that enchaintment spirits are the one who actually saw the prophecy & they got prophets to be ready for it
Though the Prophets, as I said, are probably ancient compared to the Enchantment Spirits. So they may not have known each other
does that mean the base game spirits are ancient too?
They do look like wizards & can predict a prophecy
the spirit timelines are weird. judging by the fact they all have the same styles of clothes n stuff i wouldn’t be surprised if they coexist
spirits in different time periods would wear different clothing styles
The main different, unique stuff about the Prophets is that their masks are made of stone and are painted
so are the lightseekers spirits
light seeker had painted masks too and im pretty sure all masks are made of stone
Hmm.. Yeah...
does anyone else headcanon the journey guys to be teenage/banished/failed skykids (sorry for interrupting I just needed to share this)
Can we talk about the princes symbol on the drum of quest giver & in one of the enchaintment balls?
Well, since we go through a portal to the Cave of Prophecies, time may work differently there
So they probably been there for ages, but didn't age much cause time shenanigans
You think the king or prince created their element?
more time singularities 
Or maybe time passes there much slower, I mean
is it strange that there’s no crabs in prophecy’s cave ?
Nah
cuz crabs are generally found in closed areas in sky that hold humidity
Profecy cave looks like a peaceful cave place where spirits are trained.
And we go through trials too-
such as sanctuary caves, wasteland or vault’s library > cuz crabs are generally found in closed areas in sky that hold humidity
@jagged lichen
Another thing i noticed

vault spirit also hold an enlighted cube in cutscene
Can we talk about the princes symbol on the drum of quest giver & in one of the enchaintment balls?
@dense umbra
You think the king or prince created their element?
@dense umbra
Diamond symbols usually represent the ancestor’s technology in this world, it’s interesting that this time it’s a diamond with light marks coming out, like the combination of the technology and the light
Damn-
Interesting
I tried to wrap to my friend and idk where I am but saw this blue gas like thing floating around- (also-
Sometimes I think we are in a scientific experiment done by scientist something like mazerunner- sky version)
👀😶
Bug ig lol
huh, that's pretty weird
Its supposed to be shadow?
shadow of what?
does anyone else headcanon the journey guys to be teenage/banished/failed skykids (sorry for interrupting I just needed to share this)
Yeah what are the weird floating diamonds
shadow of what?
@wide path
Maybe a bug
I see them everywhere
They are skids
I'm like 90% sure that they mean the black spot behind the sky kids residue
That hav not been loaded completely
Isn't that the back of our cape?
This how the shadow looks in close up-😶👀
Looks normal 😕
Also possibly was referring to the giant black cube in the sky
Yes
@junior robin Baymax ?!
lololol
Shadows look like that because of rendering I think, making it detailed would force the phone to work harder to process
Also, on the first picture, are you standing on the box?
Lately shadows have been looking really wack
Where are you standing in the picture where it looks like you are standing on nothing?
What is this channel about? Lol (sorry for the ignorance)
I don't know what lore is
ah
basically the story of the game
it's intentionally presented as vague so that we're pretty much free to go wild with our theories here
Ahhhh, thanks haha
Just what I wanted to know(?)
And I’ve got a new theory on why the Eden king is a terrible person
@scenic hedge tell us
In the intro cutscene we see the stars(elders) falling from orbit,which in the final cutscene is revealed to be destroyed,however the elders still want to return,they/the spirits each assign themselves a realm,possibly on power/age the Eden king of course gets Eden,which is revealed to have a huge power source,The Diamond,(it’s not too far off to assume that the diamond is connected to Eden as the effects coming out of the top are the same as the orbit “elevator”) He sets up the pipes to control the diamonds power to get back into orbit,due to the new prophecy lore implying that he was told that activating the diamond would make the darkness overun the realms and kill everyone,he ignored the prophets and went ahead,abandoning everyone including his son and his closest friends to try to get back into orbit,and then he got trapped in the diamond for all of eternity
don’t worry citizens, your prophet is here
This theory is more spur of the moment and not really that well written sorry.
Sullied/poison/dark water
Choose your favorite
I need to rewrite that theory oh god
have you guys ever thought that the kind status in waste might have been golems of sort?
What statues ?
the ones at battlefield
AAA
IVE GOT A NEW THOERY
GOTTA WRITE IT
IM GONNA USE SOURCES
IM GOING ALL OUR
OUR
OUT
OH BOI BE READY
the ones at battlefield
@sacred rapids I thought those were king statues
Ya know worshipping the king
they are but what if they where like golems that could defend the big one (going off my head cannon that the king is in the biggest one like a sarcophagus)
I can see one now just decking a krill
brb gonna go draw that
yes
quick interpretation
BRO
Beautiful
why is he strangling a krill
To take back all the light he previously stole/yeeted to journey
Oh and is there any discussion or lore on the shrine thing in forest, in the same area as the first (shiver) spirit?
should I add in a thwack on the impact point?
Yes
here we go
Beautiful
since this is somewhat lore related, ill ask it here: what would happen is a skykid's cape was destroyed/ripped?
I think the lights stored within it would explod everywhere
Hmm, or it could be that light helps the cape maintain its strength or even make it stronger
so light would regenerate the cape? or is the cape actually indestructible?
the cape goes away when you lose all the winged light
so it's kinda indestructible
but if they poof the WL outta the cape then you're screwed
so if i tried to cut the cape, it wouldn't work
The winged light keeps the cape "alive", when you do eden you give your light and your cape becomes weaker as you progress. I suppose the cape is indestructible.
Basically yes
nice
It’s made of light. You can’t cut light
tell that to krills
is there any stories for the shrimps?
Corrupt light dragons
Or creatures made for war, they sound kinda like a machine, not very natural
I think they’re war machines very strongly
I personnally believe they tie into the pollution theory
I agree- I think they either caused the pollution or were corrupted by it
Maybe they were born of smoke, and seek light to combat the feelings left by the dying of the very flames that sustained them?
someones failed experiment which was intended to consume the darkness and destroy it , but instead consumes and absorbs it and becomes the krills we know today?........
So uhm.... A question, do you think there is a time where skykids can fly infinitely? I mean, without recharging the cape power?
OMG
I just noticed a thing
The crabs in sky look almost exactly similar to soot Sprites carrying stones in spirited away
Yes
They've already told us that things in sky are studio ghibli inspired
So maybe
So, maybe, sky crabs are spiders carrying stone on Their back
That's cause they're dark creatures and they want light
Fair enough
Since we have light, they attack us in hope to take it from us
They are basicly mini krills whos trying so hard to scare a player
I gtg now goodbye and see you tommorow peeps))
So uhm.... A question, do you think there is a time where skykids can fly infinitely? I mean, without recharging the cape power?
in the clouds ofc and later in orbit (because that just wants you to fly up and up)
A potential theory: what if we play the majority of the game without our own light? Like our light is trapped in Eden, and we only have access to borrowed light until we reach ours.
Ok I will theorize on lore when full content is released
Because my fingers are sore
And my pronunciation committed wl
And honestly my brain be hurtin
I think that darkness isn’t evil, but a form of light. They tried to harness darkness as energy but it corrupted everything and destroyed things.
Doesn't this first krill area in wl look very similar to the end temple in forest? Platform+ giant crystal turning thing hanging overhead (crashed down)

The one at wasteland is a bit bigger tho
And on the sides of the map u can see even BIGGER factories
So I’m pretty sure they took the production to the next level and....yeah now issa wasteland
Diamond factories.
The meditation statue has blue eyes until you bring the elder the light, then they turn white/yellow, and the light creatures return (birds and mantas) into the temple area
in forest ? yea
all the elder shrines have blue eyes before you meditate and then they turn yellow when you’re done
i bet the large base thing in the forest temple is the manta juicer
The “temples” aren’t rlly temples
It was confirmed that they were simply buildings that had importance to the specific elder
they were still called temples by the devs tho, weren’t they ?
So in forest elder’s case
The first diamond factory had importance to her
Do you think she was holding the shards of Isle elder head?
Nope
Those were the materials that represented the diamond production
And our candle in the cutscene represented the light needed to make it
Well....idk for sure
But it seemed like this is what it was showing
In my view, the forest cutscene showed a little bit of how the diamonds were made
I don’t think anyone knows why the isle elders face was in shards
Someone prolly punched him
🥊
I have this theory that the isle elder somehow opposed the production of the eden diamond, plus he is not included in the eden gate (yes, I know this is due to isle being considered a tutorial realm but I'm using it anyways). maybe some sort of conflict that ensued between him and the king (?) and resulted in the Isle elder's broken mask
he got bashed
Oh yes I love scrolling trough this chat
Same
I have a small theory. What if Krills were supposed to be like mantas,taking skykids to higher places but something went wrong when making them and they became dark?What if they drained the skykids light [the dark crystal vibes from this theory] But then Gw was abandoned?So now they constantly search the wasteland and factory for more light?What if Golden wasteland was once bright like the others but the krill drained the light and are endlessly looking for more?I feel like I sound stupid
I said small then litterally made a paragraph
That’s how theory’s be-
Y e p
I mean, following this logic, I had the theorie of Gw being actually golden in the past, like a beautiful place, just vast and empty. But if the people actually tried to replicate a creature like the Krill and failed, creating the desolated place we know now, it makes sense.
Yeah
I have a theory that there was a villain: a dark spirit.
He created the darkness crystals that fuel the krill and make the water poison and crabs angry.
The large pipes are relics of the dark spirit's handy work.
Now, the question is whether or not the pipes were present BEFORE the wall's destruction or came AFTER....
I belive golden wasteland was a peaceful forest which was burned down for industrialization.
The mural in caves of prophecies is here to support this idea (, just see the last one ,ignore the other 3😅)
And i think dark dragons were formed by the pollution / darkness released from Burning down the trees, since the top cloud is almost like a krill shape and we see the smoke from the light going up and forming it.
Though it may just be a co-incidentally shaped cloud, but hey, we can still theorise🌸
We were born for this 
I'm really having suspicious thoughts about this, so don't mind me putting this here, these signs both look so SIMILAR***, did anyone else realize this?
headcanon: skykids are partially made of light and so they don't always interact with the environment in the ways you would expect, which would explain chibi glitch and how skykids can lie down on the edge of ledges that there's no way they shouldn't be falling off of
@hushed steeple hello can i ask where do you live !!? Why the pass cost 13$
@hushed steeple hello can i ask where do you live !!? Why the pass cost 13$
@left axle haha Canada prices goes brrr
Just realized I said familiar, I meant similar
What if the glow child we meet in Eden is actually super precious and krill attack us because they believe we are rushing in to steal it (which we kinda are)?
Like they’re guards?
I belive golden wasteland was a peaceful forest which was burned down for industrialization.
The mural in caves of prophecies is here to support this idea (, just see the last one ,ignore the other 3😅)
And i think dark dragons were formed by the pollution / darkness released from Burning down the trees, since the top cloud is almost like a krill shape and we see the smoke from the light going up and forming it.
Though it may just be a co-incidentally shaped cloud, but hey, we can still theorise🌸
@broken basin i really love this
Yes
If that's the case then why does it look like a warzone as you approach the end of the golden wasteland? The angled things in the ground look almost like anti-tank defense
the thing about wasteland is that it simultaneously looks like a factory And a warzone at the same time
and that anti tank defense thing is really cool, i havent seen that be brought up before 
If that's the case then why does it look like a warzone as you approach the end of the golden wasteland? The angled things in the ground look almost like anti-tank defense
@kindred edge There's also a catapult in the graveyard, who's to say there still wasn't a war between light and darkness after everything was burnt?
crackpot theory: The King Is a Hero
Elders and the king did “nothing wrong”. A dark monarch wages war on them and they fought back to protect their realms, and the most intense attack happened in Eden. In the process, the king corrupted himself to secure victory, the Elders were kicked out of spacetime because they died or the catastrophe warped spacetime, or whatnot. Teth acted harsh to us out of hatred for the king’s self-sacrifice, maybe.
It was the first thing I thought of (read a lot of WW2 fiction as a kid), and there are giant spears stuck in the ground everywhere aren't there?
Could be a war between dark and light, or could be a civil war that led to the downfall
Corporate greed and manufacturing versus living in harmony and co-existing with nature
I belive golden wasteland was a peaceful forest which was burned down for industrialization.
The mural in caves of prophecies is here to support this idea (, just see the last one ,ignore the other 3😅)
And i think dark dragons were formed by the pollution / darkness released from Burning down the trees, since the top cloud is almost like a krill shape and we see the smoke from the light going up and forming it.
Though it may just be a co-incidentally shaped cloud, but hey, we can still theorise🌸
@broken basin i kinda agree with ur theory but i thought that maybe the krills got angry (and maybe want to protect sth )cuz golden became a wasteland (cuz of spirits or elders? idk)
Oh
Maybe
I just think they formed when the pollutants accumulated and became pure darkness
There also has to be a relation between these lights in the murals and the coloured lights from the forgotten ark.
these lights mean something. for examole orange means light, red means fire-life, green means air or grass( these are examples)
I think these lights are the lights of creation, they made the kingdom possible,
I belive, the small lights from enchantment are broken fragments of these, and the red and purple lights were maybe made by vaUlt scholars while experimenting with the fragments
so in the season of enchantment we learned what these lights are for
@broken basin i will agree mostly to the phrase "lights of creation"
but i dont disagree with the rest statement
Shall i post the full length lights of creation theory? 👀
haha yes i am interested
Shall i post the full length lights of creation theory? 👀
@broken basin yes please!
There also has to be a relation between these lights in the murals and the coloured lights from the forgotten ark.
@sage hemlock I also agree that the forgotten ark is much more important to the beginning of the story than most people think
Photo 1(top left)
In this , we see a blue coloured light, which represents the element, water. I think this realm is forest, since we are seeing that it's raining and a river is forming , which is exactly what happens/happened in forest
Photo 2 (top right)
Here, we see a green light, which
represnts the element, earth. The mural has a place with grasslands and blooms which screams daylight prarie, since it has a lot of blooms and green earthy grass
Photo 3 (bottom left)
Here, we see a cyan light which represents the element air, and the mural suggests that this place is valley, and is a depiction of either race, since we are seeing frontward winds and floating platforms. And the clouds are at the base, just like in the races.
Photo 4 (bottom right)
This is a red coloured light , which represents the element fire. I think this realm is the golden wasteland. Surprised? Me too. We can see that the trees are being put on fire here. Well why? I think maybe to clear land for building an industrial area. Also, the top cloud is shaped very much like a krill, which further suggests that the dark dragons in wasteland were formed due to the pollution caused or darkness released by the burning of trees
Conclusion
What I want to say is that, maybe, earlier, all the relams had nothing, forest had no water/rain, prarie had no blooms, valley had no wind and wasteland was a peaceful forest. So, when these elemental lights were brought in the realms, they produced their elements due to which we see what we have today.
I really like this thesis and your expression on this paragraph.
I am not sure and I haven't understood this thought I have in my head very well but I think the 4 elements from this season are linked somehow to these lights
Yeah
maybe these elements tamed gave life to the avatars
I think the are the wisdoms that we'll collect in tge trials
I'm positive the lights are also linked to the prophets
maybe they shaped all the worlds?
idk
Maybe someone succeeded in all the 4 trials and gained all 4 wisdoms and gave them to the Elders who made the realms will the help of the lights/wisdom
Aaa I'm just rewriting stuff
Wait
i am not sure if there were the trials. i am thinking that the trials are for the avatars mostly
i mean that they exist now
but u are not wrong
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_xNgV4k5gtT2KalrVHvz0JO6-dG58swRUdNVbcof_ZI/edit?usp=drivesdk
Everything's in this
Note that this is all my interpretation, you don't have to agree
i understand that this ur opinion, its okay.
there is an idea in my head about the Light in the game and its meaning.
is it okay to say it?
(What’s lore?)
story
i think
more like knowledge and traditions
lore: a body of traditions and knowledge on a subject or held by a particular group, typically passed from person to person by word of mouth.
Yeah but here, sky lore Just means the story behind the sky Kingdom 🌸
Do the masks represent anything other than the animals-
well maybe the animals represented give meaning
I just feel like there is a deeper meaning and I cant feel it 
for example the mask of lion may represent strength
is there any info about The Elder?
I just wanna know who was driving tanks in the golden wasteland, lol
Lol-
is there any info about The Elder?
@hushed steeple i mean that entity who decided to give life and light to children, elders and spiritos
easter eggs
wait literally Easter Eggs
literally in both context
Mmkay thanks
omlette
Yes
is there an image of the crab call spirit?
this one?
@hushed steeple
thanks
Those eggs might be there for something... or not lol
Whats interesting is you’re glowy and immune when you conpleted the water trial. It’s like almost as bright as glow spell but looks more like other sky star kid thing
And that immunity only wears off once you either log out of game for a period of time or go home
Like it doesnt cross over to central cave either
But why would immunity have limits? Does that explain something akin to the sky post apocalypse?
the glowing effect upon returning from the trial is a bug
Hey! Imma c/c from the seasonal chat but-
Does anyone know the meaning or the location of the drawing that appeared on the wall of the cave after you finish the Water Trial? 🙏 I'm confused and so curious!! Like is this like those secret areas there were in Sanctuary?
I think when you finish all 4 trials a d see The Who,e Pictionary will make more sense to you, Hint- go look at the poster paintings in office by the table I the kitchen, study them
oh okay!! Thank you @quaint flint !!
Yes I have a theory but do not want to spoil it, a lot will be added to this mural - critical you complete the trials,then light the candles in the cave up by the mural Hint
Now I'm interested!
Ooo I'm hype now
Don’t know if this belongs here but I spent a good few hours measuring the spirits heights
Well yea cause formatting and screenshots 
Wow
what method do you use to do measurement?
you did this using projections right? as in viewing the spirits from their constellations at home?
Stood at the middle of the constellation table at home and took screenshots from the same zoom out and angle 👁️
Crap I took those in beta
Hold on I’ll crop it
And then I just drew a line at the height
Impressive
Thought: Its called Eden yeah? Like the Garden of Eden, the place where the first people came to be. Big crystal there yeah, kinda like the ones in our foreheads? Kinda thinking there's a connection there.
Okay wait- yes- you know how Eden already fell and stuff? What if we were what was left of the big diamond that wasn’t (or was- I’d take both-) corrupted?
about the heights: i thought the questgiver is small on the poster but when the season went live i cant believe he’s that tall
I mean, put him next to the fire prophet-
food for thought (regarding eden being corrupted and all): the stormlock area in japanese translates 'original sin'
the japanese translation of sky was done in-house 
in-house?
since there are japanese staff who worked on the game they also did the translations
the same goes for the chinese translation
Ooh, ok
I have a theory about what happened to Eden, but literally everything at my disposal are full of major spoilers-
.-.
Do the spoilers involve anything beta?
Bc beta spoilers r the only spoilers you can’t have here
Anything else is fair game
Yep, beta
I can't wait to har about this when it gets to live
or maybe I'll just snoop around the beta channels for my own theory
Uh, hey, someone knows if this is suppose to happen?
that's probably a bug, it didn't happen to me
but i think it'd be best to ask around?
Saturation go brrrrrrrrr
Yes
Why are we called children of the light though, if we are half light half darkness 
light won the custody battle 
Sounds like Light and Darkness had a divorce 
Cuz that’s what we act on?
@elder zenith
Do we?
we use winged light to fly, and recharge with creatures of light
maybe something like that?
and candles lol
Ye
We are just darkness vessels for light, going around setting stuff on fire
our purpose is... arson

what if we're not the ones who were supposed to beware the prophecy
it was the elders
Well, the bot also did say don’t trust what the Elders say...
But I believe we’re also meant to beware
Also the Elders and Prince but they didn’t listen~
Hopefully, our skid does listen...
Well, the bot also did say don’t trust what the Elders say...
@thin dirge
Well, yes, adults are stupid
^^
i don't know what to feel about that statement
Lmao yes 
Sometimes children can outsmart adults tbh
"I told them this would happen but did they listen?" Is a direct reference to the intro cutscene at the start of the game: "If only they had listened"
skybot quoted that line too

Skybot is dropping a lot of info 


Yeah... But it’s getting a little sus. I feel like they’re giving maybe too many hints...
The question is, who is that sentence reffering to? And who say that sentence??
And yet the hints are so vague...
I already have an idea... but...
The question is, who is that sentence reffering to? And who say that sentence??
@bitter shale I think Megabird is the one talking here
'they' in the context of the intro seems to imply the elders
at least, that is the most likely case
Yup
And that one is a skykid like all of us
Jeez, I almost got a full chronological timeline, but full of spoilers that I can’t talk about for more than 3 weeks-
i'm guessing that's the base prophecy
The voice of @solar relic is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
SKYBOT
WAIT
Is skybot the king?
"echoes thru the ages"
i feel another orbit brain moment coming from vibatu 👁️👁️
BRO THIS IS LITERALLY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF "Rebirth"
He wants to meet with you again in eden res
,,,,, my theory is that Skykids are the reincarnation of the kid
We meet with our past selves at Eden
What if the prophecy telling about skids coming? Like, it might be a second coming or smt
Anothe child of light arrival
Could be a second coming...
yeah that's what i think is the prophecy
also another interesting thing skybot said
maybe the skykids are hte next generations of prophets?
Cycle starts again, literally the Skykid being reborn
May we meet again in the eye of eden...
Now idk if thats can be counted as a threat or not-
Prophecy cycle
I think it was confirmed that the season was canon backstory for the villagers and elders
Wait is that mean the prophecy tell the prophets about the rebirth cycle?

Idk
The Prophecy Cycle tho reminds me of the repeat history thing
History Repeats Itself...
i think the prophecy is that the king will be reincarnated into skids in the future

But the thing is, if history will repeat in sky... what kind of repeat? The kingdom will fall again? In whose hand? Skids hands?
“We saw of your return to us”
I eman we did have ability to do arson but-
Isle Elder Pin
The first mural reveal for the season is people looking at stars falling out of the sky (aka the Elders falling down to the world).
With the arrival of the elders more stories and prophecies begin.
Eventually, there's the prophecy of the chosen one, that apparently saves everyone in a time of darkness
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming 
I’m starting to think it’s a History Repeats itself thing... But it ends with a different outcome...
“We saw of your return to us”
@thin dirge m-my Skykid is Eden King reincarnation theory likes this one a lot
We saw your return to us...
Your return... who is taht reffering to?
The king comes back, just not in the way you'd expect
Now thats a good material for my sky ocs 
same
I did theorize that the skid may be the Prince/King, but now, I’m starting wander off of that
I guess my focus isn’t really the Prince/King rn
Oho, who is it now butter? 
I can’t tell you cause everything in my disposal are full of beta spoilers-
OH HECK
.-.
I can't wait until next week honestly
The trials are so cool and the mural reveals are,,,, interesting
@heady sinew is that noragami guy i forgot his name-
Hmm... I wanna share it when it comes to live...
I CAN'T WAIT TO JUMP AROUND WITH MY FRIENDS :D
and to see how the hub will look 
I made a full doc, but it’s super long now
Alright, i understand 
seems like all the beta people have a lot to say 
I shall wait until everything went live then

@heady sinew is that noragami guy i forgot his name-
@bitter shale yesYato
i now realise that yeah, the horned dude on the mural rn is probably isle elder
anubis guy's mask is too upright
They seems to be waving toward the door on the clouds....
bongo man
Dundun man-
They are flying-
The murals are incomplete tho. We’re guessing the full picture based from a single one of its puzzle piece on it’s own-
Lmao no flying
Wait a sec,,,, if the Isle elder is already there before the stars fall
Does that mean he's not 'celestial'?
Like, the rest of the elders would be celestial beings since it's a theory that they are the ones who fell out of the Sky
i don't think we know whether this is before or after the fall though
With the theory of the stars falling... Y’all are assuming the events from the Intro are in order...
Likely? I assume Daleth is the first to fall and it because its their duty to prepare the ancestors for the other stars sell
I think it's before the fall. This is a beginning story and the falling stars are clearly out there

With the theory of the stars falling... Y’all are assuming the events from the Intro are in order...
@thin dirge Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave
You do realise the first part of the intro could actually be talking about the end rather than the beginning...?
XD
HDJSJWJWJBW DNW YOU JUST OPENED MY THIRD EYE
About the end rather than the beginning..?
Which end? The fall of the kingdom?
im confused-
After the fall of the Kingdom
Certain things don’t line up with the first part of the intro
I suppose it’s sort of fine to talk about this without spoilers...
wait wiat the child taht connected to the 6 constells??? Can that be us after we meet every elders???
No I mean, what happened to the stars when the Kingdom fell
all i got from this was the feeling that our theories before prophecy are going down the drain rn
Maybe we should play the intro backward 
Suddenly everything is clicking
The biggest evidence of this is the JP intro
And at the same time it doesn't
orbit brain moment time? 👁️👁️
It said the stars made a mistake and were drawn from the Sky
The sky....
But... there’s the Original Sin
It can mean orbit or sky kingdom
The Eden Diamond is there, known as the Original Sin in JP
But then that’s when things get mixed up and confusing
The intro said the stars made a mistake or wrong choice.
Eden diamond is called as original sin in jp...? Wow okay now thats interesting-
But if the Original Sin is the Eden Diamond, the one thing that made them fell, then that means the first part of the intro couldn’t possibly be before the Kingdom fell-
It has to be during the fall
And the EN Intro also said “If only they listened”, lining up with what the JP intro said about a “Mistake”
Or wrong choice
👁️👁️
Is that sentence become 'if only they realize their mistake...'?
So the first part of the Intro may not actually before the Kingdom
It’s during the fall
The second part is some flashback to how it happened in the first place
it's like the aurora borealis...
@pine stirrup yeah lol, it keeps changing colors, hot pink to hot blue
THIS FLIPS MY THEORIES
Lmao
Sigh, writes everything again
Yeah. The intro may not be in chronological order as we thought
why did chinese say “the stars have enough of suffering” when it seems to b their choice to fall and be selfish? is it implying they feel great remorse over what they did?
so is the Timeout not caused on Megan’s end? seems like megan wants us to lessen the suffering from being trapped out of spacetime
Lolololol
Plus, it’s super simplified so that a child could understand
so what would be the chronological order of the intro now?
First part of the intro-the fall of the stars after what happened in Eden and corruption
Second part-Flashback to the Kingdom and what happened
Third part-Present, awakening of the skid
That’s how I see it
I probably have more evidence, but not now~
wait i am pea brain i need to type out the lines from the intro to make sense
a child cant understand not-chronological
I think a child can't understand chronological order, but ok
If the first part of the intro is the fall of the elders after the eden accident... then, why they are connected to a child?
what if the intro narrator was taking advantage of a child not being able to understand
In the first scene
it's ok lambda me too
I think a child can’t understand chronological order, but ok
children...aren’t mindless. it’s not hard to understand « a happened before b »
I have a theory that the Prince/King was actually an skid
Though it’s mainly based from the concepts-
Since Prince looked exactly like an skid and even does stuff like an skid
What if the trials were to see if the Skykid was already among the villagers
But, hidden
P sure children understand what a flashback is
That one concept art that depict the prince dragged our unconscious body to the orbit
Lmao
Are we secretly evil??
children...aren’t mindless. it’s not hard to understand « a happened before b »
I meant it as in a child can not understand its significance, and the importance of order. A child wonders why A should be done before B, but he knows that A happened before B if he were to witness an event
Prince : oi mate you awake?
Skid : literally dead
Prince : ... oh well nvm i will just drag you
yeah but that’s not « not understanding chronological order » that’s just questioning why it’s like that
A thing I just remembered: some stars die and become other stars
I specifically mentioned order though
Its more to difference in perseption i think
Perception
Flipping hell whats the englsih for that
Point of view???
What if that's the relation between prince and king? King was a star who died and became the first star kid.
And the colours of stars tell you a lot about heat and size
Blue stars are bright and hot
fair point, I could of worded that better
White stars are the coldest
You’re talking about white dwarves...
Blue stars are the youngest, the more redder a star is the more older and cool it is
so the elders established the realms and prospered
light was infinite
darkness came (eden diamond go brr) and the stars fell)
the skid alarm clock turns on to wake them up
is this your current intro theory butterfly? sjdjdn sorry i am 🐌
Actually, bigger and hotter stars are blue-white
Red stars are smol
Lives up to a trillion years due to how slow they burn
different colored wl would be cool 
This... May fit rather well with current and old lore: king dies, becomes kid. Elders are likely dying. If phoenex energy flows through all stars, chances are this is not the first time this has happened. But if stars get smaller each time... Perhaps we may have a different tale.
Maybe elders die to ancestors die to kids? And Megan needs them all home because too many deaths will mean all stars are itty bitty

Kingdom prospered with Elders and Ancestors.
Eden go BOOM, Elders fell into limbo
Skid awakens
But it brings something... interesting...
The skid/Prince in the first part of the intro is the only one who didn’t fell along with the Elders...
All what happened to them is that they lost the circles around them. Circles often represent connection in Sky
Ehh, what happened to the Prince/King is starting to get more and more mysterious for me.
i have a feeling my king = col = prince = us theory is either going to be a bit more solidified or it's going entirely down the drain due to this season
i think us and winged light r both part of the king
it's back to square 1 
It’s somehow gonna be both I bet-
Winged lights are from the Fallen statues
This is shown from the text when you enter the point of no return
“Return the light of the fallen”
So there were many skids before us
But based from the intro, the Light awakened us as a last resort or measure-
This can be used as evidence that we used to be the Prince/King
real
Or there might be generation of skids before us that failed in eden?
Its actually connected to what skids real purpose is
i do wonder why the fallen skids couldn't reincarnate like us, also there was one in second area of eden that just fades away
Wait, if our skid is not the Prince/King but we’re both Children of the Light, does that mean we’re... the Prince’s sibling..???
Fades away? Which one?
it's not the blue crystal ones from beta eden
there's a kid statue in the second part of eden that will fade away if you run past it
yeah that's what i was referring to
Is it on the pnr cave entrance?
I never see it since the krills got my full attention-
in the CN translation, do you guys want to hear it?
Sure
Original text
预言山谷
远古试炼, 重现预言
Translation
Gorge/Ravine of prophecies
[Complete the] Ancient trial(s), recurrence(re-fulfillment) of prophecies
this is the subtitle and description when you enter the cave of prophecies
it's the prophecy cycle all over again

Aha! Oohhhhh boyyyyy!!
Re-fulfillment!
dropman omy nice name 
So there was a col taht complete the trials before us!
lol thanks res 
We’re fulfilling a Prophecy that’s already been fulfilled in the past!
the future is already written bruh...
Congrast butter! Your theory is on the spot!
So this leaves the question of whether the cycle repeats until it’s finished fully or whether everyone before us failed to fulfil it completely
So does that mean skids are second coming-
i think the prophecies are timeless
in a way they are primordial
it is how it is significant in a point in time
point*
The question is... will it have the same outcome as the previous Prophecy..?
Likelt, thr trials purpose are different from the past and present
Our present trials might reward us in telling what happened to the kingdom, while the past trials might reward the winner something precious....
i think i missed your theory butterfly
If it is indeed re-fulfilment
Ahh, I didn’t quite share it
Cause I was worried it would spoil stuff
BUT I WAS RIGHT WHOOO
Likely, the basic reward is to claim the 4 elements, but our present skids might using it differently unlike the winner of the trials in the past...
Ooh?
Or can we actually use the 4 elements? The past winner might using the 4 elements for difefrent purpose
Tell us
do you guys want to see the current one, i will keep you guys updated when new ones come out
While for us... is to understanding the elements and know about the past?
ok
Oh what if the past winner giving the elements to each realms? It can be seen from the cave entrance murals
But why only 4 realms when there is 6 realms?
Do we want to fulfill the prophecy tho? The last group that did kinda...
Last group?
Hmm...
The ancestors
Flos, maybe the other two didn’t need them
I can understand that the least who need the elements might be vault
But ither than vault, which realm that didnt need the elements?
Hmmm...
Isle?
Wasteland had the red light which was an aritificial light
So maybe Wasteland?
Also, Wasteland and Valley used to be conjoined together
Golden Valley
Maybe isle - few people would live on the isle itself, and instead it would mostly be a port
Wasteland and vault is connected too
Yeah, but the two realms were the two parts of one big city for civilisation
Now i need a picture of sky realms as one continent lmao-
There were, but they’re concepts
Lemme dig a lil further
Probably Tom Zhao’s website
That secret island tho-
Right-
I think that secret island is the cutscene island or even our home island
But dang thats a lot of secrets area in one map-
Original text
湖水的试炼
耐心之道, 跬步致远
Translation
Trial of water(the lake)
^Wisdom(Way) of patience, ^^[take] small steps to reach afar
^technically it is tao from taoism, but way would be the closest contextual translation, though it loses some of it meaning in english.
^^this is a constructed proverb, but a direct translation is difficult because the introduction of ambiguity in meaning, here i provide an alternate verse that attempts to construct the intended parable "small steps accumulated arrive far-away"
the map with secrets is a very old concept so take it with a couple grains of salt
proof that i didn't make this up
butterfly can i message you something?
it is a question but it would be beta spoilers
Okay
“Trial of the Lakewater
The path of patience, far to reach a great step to leap”
The Cave of Prophecies
“Ancient trials, revisualize the prophecy”
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming 
My bold guess is none of the cosmetics we receive from spirits are real, they are just illusions
cause how can we receive a real thing from a ghost?
@humble barn the emperor moth finds itself naked.
in a real world would they work as illusions?
hey. in eden void room ur still clothed without light
Hm so our clothing is physical as opposed to capes made of light
Heya 
I see there's no topic at hand, so I'll try to develop on something I've been thinking
See how at the entrance we only have 4 lights: blue, green, yellow, and orange?
well, there's also 4 prophets whose elements coincide with the elements of the lights pretty neatly.
perhaps the prophecy is about these lights coming into existence, the very start of the kingdom
help im stuck writing prophecies
thx skybrophet, really cool 
The voice of @solar relic is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
ok see you in eden 
back on track...
these lights are a manifestation of Megan, some sort of "mini rulers" or something that oversee some aspects Megan just can't
we see in FA how this lights can affect the environment, turning a barren wasteland into a... well, not-so-barren wasteland
today we can find them in their "natural habitat", but it's highly likely that, just as we see in FA, they were kept somewhere else, perhaps inside of the castle, as a source of power or something else
do you think the prophets were sort of shepherding the elemental lights?
The prophets foresee everything 👁️
if they are like, mini megans
perhaps they were teaching how to properly use them in their favor
which ones? the lights?
the lights and maybe even the prophets as you said
something that really sets off my theory are the remaining lights, you know, the red one and purple one
The symbols are different too
Gib-
Would anyone like to hear the tail of the lion cub?
Vote yes and I’ll watr 20 minutes of everyone’s life xd
Waste
Do ittttt
Ok so my theory is
Everywhere you can go to in sky
Represents a phase of life
The use of dawn
Isle
Is birth
Everything is simple
Everything is beutiful
The daylight prairie
Your a child
Everything is magical and wonderous
It’s impressive that you came up with that on your own! It’s actually confirmed
And relaxing and calm
The forest is your first loss weather it be a pet or a close relative
Everything is dark
And rain is tears
The valley is the teenage years when you feel like everyone is judging your actions
So you feel the need to succeed
The wasteland is the later teenage years
You fear of becoming an adult
You realize how fast time goes by
And are aware how little you have
The krill are regrets and fears
The vault is adulthood
You realize the world isn’t as scary as it had seemed
You begin to understand it better
Wasteland represents adult life or adult crisis
You grow wise with age
The teenage part is Forest
Eden is death and the journey beyond
Yep
The teenage part is Forest
moody teenage years
When you are close to death you begin to panic because you don’t know what to become of you
You fear what’s ahead
If there is an ahead
Orbit is the second Vault
teenage year is bittersweet. u have the rain and this beautiful music
You have reached the beyond
You begin to calm down
And home is where the cycle begins again
Your first breath
Your first look at the world
And the cycle repeats
I just read the other messages
You should write poetry-
Yes it it confirmed, in the ||posters in office||
I’m poetic yes but not enough to be an actual poet
And as butterfly said some of the times are a little bit different to what you said
Wait how do I get to the ||office?||
wait, hold on
talking about home... I think it's pretty much confirmed that home is located outside of time and space, right?
well...
hot take: home is part of our own elder realm 
Valley is adulthood, wasteland is midlife crisis
i don't think yall need to spoiler office here 
Also I have another theory if you guys wanna listen 
ik but I figured that since they came up with this theory on their own it meant they didn’t know about office
Isle-Birth
Prairie-Childhood
Forest-Teenage
Valley-Adulthood
Wasteland-Midlife Crisis
Vault-Old Age
Eden-Death
Orbit-Rebirth
ah sorry
i guess i was the one that spoiled it
This is confirmed in the Office posters
@solar junco To fo there you need the office cape
*go
Which you need to buy in office-
Find a friend with a blue cape with black underneath
Yep, friend a person with cyan with black in. And go to vault to the hidden place
And go pass the barrier in the portal and boom
Wait you can get an office cape?
Office
I know about the party hat from office..
you can't get it currently unless you buy it. it's known as the "beta cape" because it was a gift from tgc to the beta testers that helped make the game sky is today
Well yeah that I know.
You can ask people in the #looking-for-group-live to go to office
Beta and office cape are 2 very different things
I don’t think I have any friends who have the cape
Bright blue, same color as the TGC logo you see everytime you enter da game
Anyway fellow sky folks I have a really weird question...
But would anyone like to hear my other theory?
Make sure you spoiler tag anything office related outside of this channel though
Go to the hidden place and light everyone up and if you see someone with the cape, friend them.
Given how big the realms are geographically in the world of sky what would the chances of large intelligent species existing in the world of sky be?

Isn’t that us
huh
Inklings-
cloud people? aka the spirits
Xd
Arent we cloud people-
I think all sentient life was wiped out by whatever happened in Eden
Or Manta-worshippers that are so devout they legit evolved to be like Mantas in biology


I-
Hi my lore boys
Heyo
Hlelllo
heya

are you saying krills aren't an intelligent enough species? 
Definitely there was some apocalyptic event that eradicated all the ancestors, so I assume the same would be true for any potential other species
Welcome to this segment of lore theories
Wowow many people here, what are yall talking about?
Right now it's a "Talla spouts out a wild crackpot idea that might be possible" theory.
Well I have a theory
Tell us
That kinda defines Eden
Tell us
AAAA imbed work on this server
What if there’s a bigger meaning behind the name of the game
What if the giant diamond in Eden is a gateway
Y'know.
And that’s why all the fallen fly to it soon released
I'm waiting for someone like boundary break to try and get to the diamond.
My theory suggests we’re are all true children
And Eden is a trial
But we’re still too immature to pass the trial
So were sent back to grow wiser
But then why we reborn and die once and once again?
...
trial of death 
Phoenix logic?
Ibecause

We’re still to young
To be shown our real reality
We’re too immature
We make everything seem childish
oh someone did get to the diamond, they got under it but nothing much happened
Here’s one price of evidence I have
cause how can we receive a real thing from a ghost?