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maybe others spirits did the trials too. but only a few ones are shown in the prophets memories
Maybe there are another prophets or trainers
Maybe
I think the current mural (the one that appers after water trail) shows the 4 prophets along with the Isle elder (the one with the horns, cause they look like his mask) creating the caves of prophecies.
In the first scene ,we see,stars fall, which is probably the continuation of the intro where the stars fell. The star that fell in Isle was the Isle elder, I still don't understand how the prophets came to be but let's just say they existed for now.
Then in the cutscene, we see Isle elder and 4 figures which I believe to be the 4 propehts appear, which means that they are in Isle of dawn.
In the next scene we see a patch of clouds clear, and some stairs and a cave entry apper. This represents the cave of prophecies. This whole scene depicts Isle elder and 4 propehts making the hidden caves with their powers.
(Rest of this will continue when we see more murals next week)
Tell me what are your ideas and what do you guys think of my theory. Thanks for reading ❤️
Tell me what are your ideas and what do you guys think of my theory. Thanks for reading
@broken basin i actually saw 4 guys only in many murals too
Yeah, in all murals in Ilse, there are always 4 guys with or without Isle elder
So maybe
the mural on the pillar for the spirit under the wing before the clouds, this one has 4 dudes too
why is one guy seperated?

I think it's just welcoming us the season of prophecy
giving them stars of knowledge???
The one on the far left might be us and the four might be the spirit and the elder
Yeah, the mural shows that they are building the temple

While in the actual spirit memory, I guess those murals are made by the Isle spirit , since he was there in the caves and maybe he saw all the things, such as building of the temple
I'm gonna make a theory based on these clues
Sometimes I think it's all connecting
Idk I think they're connected but we need the other trials to make sure
Yeah
Cuz those murals are way to similar to just be coincidence
Yeah, we are experiencing what is called "lack of evidence"
Pffff
Or "lack of murals"
I'll just relive the Spirits are try to make out more details
I'll probably end up just hanging out in Isle but I'll do my best to do that too XD
ill listen to the earth prophet's reliving music cause it's so good
bruh i totally knew this was gonna happen
I kinda wanna go to wasteland to see these spirits but I'm also le scared
The piano, and when the whatever harp things starts , I get goosebumps
Oooo
🌸Aight back to lore 🌸
But I mean it must've been scarier for them cuz they actually had to live it.... haha... 👉👈
Yes!
Very much
So basically what I'm thinking is that those murals are connected
Yeah,
Cuz of Number 4
With the falling of the stars it makes sense to me at least, tho like we said there's still some missing parts
Yea
Remember the Pointing Pilgrim is the only Isle Spirit present during the memories of Prophets, meaning he learned from them and those murals that he might've drawn must've been from what he learned during his time as a pupil
skybot now prophetbot 2.0!
...
Lol
In the intro we see 1 star falling and Isle appearing
Maybe , that 1 star broke into fragments layer and that's why we see multiple falling things when the water trail murals scene starts
Oh, maybe since he saw the development and building of the temple with his eyes, that's why he points towards it, since it holds importance to him, (which coincidentally also acts as a way to direct moths towards the temple)
Pointing Pilgrim is also the one whose appearence changed the least from the time he was in the CoP...
Does this mean he died not long after he got out of that cave..?
For me it always looked as though he seemed to long for it, constantly gazing at his murals and pointing towards the temple
Oop
That's sad
Maybe he just exercised which prevented him from getting fatter like the pigtails spirit
I don't think there's much different in any of the spirits , not only Isle one
Yeah lol I'm just playing
But they do look a bit shorter in height, which means they were actually small when they were in CoP
I mean they were kids
Or teens
Yeah, but even his clothes are the exact same as the time as he was in the CoP
Yeah
None of the spirits are like that
Except him
Hey... What if he was there on purpose..?
/ ~~hi guys what are we talking about
~~
If the Prophets knew we were coming, what if the Prophets sent him to be the first spirit that will guide the skid?
Wait, aren't everyone's clothes same?
Not really
I need to relieve CoP spirits again to make sure, huh
No not really
All of the other spirits at least had different attires from the time they were in CoP aside from Mr. Pilgrim here
Yeah lol we also have a photo of all them together if you'd like me to DM it to u
Okay, what about this?
Pointing Pilgrim is one of the students of the 4 Prophets. What if soemthing happened to the prophets? They can be either gone missing or dead, no one exactly know. But whatever happened, the absence of the prophets leaving the pilgrim totally hopeless. The Pilgrim decided to live on the cave, drawing murals of the Prophet's teaching on the wall and memorizing it, over and over so they wont ever forget until death claimed him
What's all this ruckus about!? 
Not lore but im comfortable asking here, are we supposed to glow after the trial?
Honestly, the idea that he had drawn the murals which were based from the things he learned from CoP and how he was the only spirit who actually led us where to go next, and how he's often the first spirit we notice and relive (at least for me), makes me think Pointing Pilgrim was actually the top student out of all the 8 pupils there
@heavy eagle nah we didnt
Nope, its a bug
OH OKAY
Oh that's actually
Pointing Pilgrim was a much more important spirit than we thought-
That means they entrusted the responsibility to him to not only remember his teaching and pass it on to the other spirits who later join him, but they also trusted him to lead us the children of light onto the correct path
/ sorry for being offf topic yall but is lambda here? sorry lambda i forgot about the quote i ask about
Wait what about the other seven spirits though?
He's seems to be the only one who's taken at least some of the teachings of the Prophets and passed it on to us. All the other memories of the other pupils didn't seem to be directly correlated to the stuff in CoP-
Or rather...why those eight spirits specifically?
@ember temple each of the other spirits were split into different areas besides valley, but pointing pilgrim is the only one who remained the same. Literally, he never changed his clothes or appearance and seemed to draw his teaching wherever he could
Oh a sad thought just occurred to me. What if he never changed his appearance because of the prophets. We discussed earlier they mightve just disappeared, what if he never changed because he wanted them to recognize him as soon as they got back but then that never happened
sorry to interrupt but skybot is 
Makes me believe that those memories he had and his death was actually not long after he just came out of the CoP. His memory of it seems really, really fresh for him. Which is kinda depressing.... All his classmates get to live on and grow up with their lives. Pointing Pilgrim barely did...
/ res the bot is pure chaos whaaaa
That means pointing pilgrim was stuck in the past with a responsibility he lived for until death, all to make his prophets proud of him. To maybe prove himself? To be more than just what he seemed to be, but then they disappeared and he never got that same hope again. And instead, found new hope in reliving the same memories again and again and again until death
Also note the bot also said "Don't trust what the Elders say!!", seems sus...
/aaaaah???
Heh pt 4 of making myself sad for no reason
/so is the narator the prophets??
Psst hey @gilded fossil, I heard there's a prophet somewhere that's very shy, but you didn't hear it from me 
Fire boi?
Fire Prophet was missing for most of the Beta Testing
help im stuck writing prophecies
Also. Another thing I saw when I hopped on here, someone suggested that one of the fire element students is the QG?
/yall maybe we should use "fortune tellers?" or oracles? or anything but the pr- i dont want to trigger the bot
/yes marz
That was meeee...
/ could be same hair tho but i like butterfly's idea
/aaaah???
But yeah just a thought
Also
I'm just spit balling here as it comes to me. If this student is the QG, and he now has the anubis mask which is the Egyptian God of death. What exactly does that mean for his... strengths ig, and another thing. QG can recall memories with an instrument, not fire or a diamond in his hands.
Idk maybe I'm reading into it too much lol
Hm
I wanna try reliving Mr. Pilgrim
He was always my first spirit, lol
As a moth
Brb
Okay!
/so who took the time to make all these trials then? when did they start making them? what purpose? before or after the elders?
/do we know if the elders fell before or after the prophets ( idk i havent played yet
/i was thinking maybe the prophets werre the ones in charge but the elders came and took their place which is why they dislike the elders and say such bad rumors about them
/ again still havent played yet
Lmao
/~~ hey Lore lover mind if i suggest a name lmao how about Meowphecy~~
Ok im back. So with the trials, tbh I have no idea
But good questions though, definitely something to think about as we go through the trials 😚👍
/hmmmmmmm i really have to play and check but at the mean time feel free to spoil me anything with juicy info?
What’s the QG again?
What if light just responds to music naturally, so music was the old way of influincing light
Only it takes a lot more effort to control and is more limited, which is why darkstone became popular
'm back- ended up becoming friends with a moth whil I was at it-
AWWW I MISSED PILGRIM TALK
@pallid citrus quest giver
actually yeah I was kind of wondering about what the point of those trials were
not by much but still
Likely? For us to understand about the 4 elements?
So
Sources of energy : light, exploitation of butterflies and birds, diamonds, music, wind currents, clouds,
I suspect music doesn't make energy, just guide it
Clouds in general-
And for understandting the elements' importances for our journey?
Oof it send late-
Ya know- Air and Fire I can kind of get but I'm struggling a little to grasp what a sky kid would do with Water and Earth
Altho from the trial that avaiable rn the only thing i have learned is that im bad at this kinds of game mech-
Water wod symbolizing patience
don't worry dude I screamed the whole time I tried the trial cnsndndm
Earth is... hygiene???
HYGIENE DKSKDKDM
Yooo... I relived the Fire Prophet and I saw their cutscene!
Ark is the only place that has been saved from the toxic from GW light?
Gahh, someone other two people ruined things when I trying to analyse the memories
Well you can say it like that
Even then that's due to us but yeah
I feel that butter 
I mean, not canon but theories.
same- it's hard tryna do the cave alone
And the fact taht some cutscene arent played for a reason...
I noticed Mr. Pilgrim actually was super excited for the Fire Prophet's lesson-
"Yay! We got to do it with da best teacher!"
Kinda like that
It was cute~
Idk what yall say but the watwr trial means gay rights and i have proof : in the end of the trial u r supposed to recreate the last korrasami scene when they're going tk the spirit world from legend of korra
DKENDNS IT WAS WHAT THE-
I really want someone to talk lore theories I have but my friends are bored of me going "ok so here..." 
? Ain't this the place for you to do just that Sock
yea- Im scared of saying something wrong tho
Look, fire boi is an absolute unit and i love them so so so much
That's the beauty of a theory- you're never THAT wrong
@worn flint we wont get bored here, trust me
thanks ^^
I always lurk in here lol.
Ooo- so I actually have something about the these seasons spirits.
Tell tell
OwO- pls share-

Ok, so in cutscenes you can see the base game spirits right, (I have picture of them) you can see the spirits that are sitting is the base game hairs
Like, the black cape spirit's hair.
bird-call etc, etc. So these seasonal spirits are actually much older?
.. If that makes any sense.
Older... in terms like they are already exist before the ancestors?
Ah, yes that
Well, maybe they did? Since someone here pointed out that the regular spirits that appeared on prophet's memories are looking much younger
/so are you saying the pr-oracle/ fortune tellers came before or after the elders?
cough less huggable Light Catcher Lady
More like teachers?
/ she be cute dont @ her
I don't know exactly how to explain, but like- the fact that these season's spirits actually give knowledge to the base spirits. 
/so what sort of knowledge?
That's what i didn't think about tbh.
I'm just glad we get to know that yeah- they had relations with each other of some form-
Yep, that word thank you!!
Likely? Knowledge about the elements?

Some form they had relationships.- that
Maybe the spirits weren't already in their respective Realms or smthn before this
The water spirit did teach about patience and how to stay calm
Nah you good Sock XD
I guess that's why the Chibi Mask was under the Water Spirit
You need a lot of patience to play Hide and Seek and stay hidden XD
Exactly, maybe how to control stuff.
/oooh okay
Isle was school and only the kids we see in the memories attended, the others didn't want to have their brains crushed
Msncmsmdn okay in their defense- their curriculum looks awesome
I hope it's helpful ❤️
Remember that one theory about the HnS lady actually have a child? Yeh, maybe she attending the class to know how to keep her patience while child raising-
Oh thank lord
They don't have to deal with maths and stuff
If someone made me hit my chest rlly hard I'd punch them bro fr fr
/wait a second thoooo,... would that make the oracles/fortune tellers exist before the elders, stay around sky for a very long while, did research and stuff
/whats' HnS???
You guys can correct me , if I mentioned anything wrong in it🙏
Wait so that wasn't the Hunter-
HnS = hide and seek
HELLO STEALTHY SURVIVOR ALWAYS LOOKIN GOOD
Its too long la
I need to shorten it out
Isnt already stated that ancestors are already walk on clouds long before the elders fell?
So, maybe the cave of prophecies was here way more than spirits.? we can say its a spirit school
/well i thought like the ancestors exist for a years and then elders came
I believe its also already confirmed that all ancestors we have encoubtered are stars
/well i thought like the ancestors exist for a years and then elders came
I believe its like this too
/but now it's like "the ancestors stayed there for 500000 ys or sth and then elders came
/yeas!!! spirit school!
Yo i am back and Lonewolf u are freaking amazing for making that picture, I appreciate you ❤
Thank you so much for it lol.
Well, elders might can be called as "older than stars but younger than earth walker"
That's- confusing-
Elders are lack of experience on earth than the ancestors, yet the elders are technically older than the ancestors
Ohhh
Or they can be the same age ? Idk, how star age?
Thanks guys, I thought since we'll be discussing spirits and their relation with the particular prophet and realm, I thought I must make it.
❤️
If we look at stars realistically, they age very slow and its dependent on their circumstances as well. Maybe we can apply that with elders as stars as well??
/yall did the elders came, gave them industrialization which then = more food -> ancestors became bigger and strongers???
sun
@broken basin

Also, you can download it to see the small text :)🌸
@worn flint I've actually been working on that theory
Elders could just have represented the coming of a new age or smthn
Yea, anything that sun could mean?
/oooh thanks Wolf!~
Hold on
o: can i see what you have?
That pattern looks like the orbit symbol
Okay imagine like the elders are gods and the ancestors are human
When a god fall and got physical bodies, they are considered as "young" as human. But their soul didnt, cause they are technically divine
Ageless
/oh yea sock there's the 2 sheild theory
Like how Ancestors couldn't have progressed without this Elder wisdom
The sun is also on the elders shield
The elder is believed to switch sides
@stark oracle yep, thats a good techniqur
cool
Wasteland was a forest before the toxic right?
/yup! the dud switch sides!
Yeah I still think tsadi was a defector
/sock, maybe!
i dont think wasteland was a forest imo
About the topic with what the Prophets may have taught the pupils, I think the biggest hint is Pointing Pilgrim's murals-
If we look at stars realistically, they age very slow and its dependent on their circumstances as well. Maybe we can apply that with elders as stars as well??
Im reffering to this one
/ lmao meow glad you like my suggestion
Sorry i kinda confuse-
Because what I've been thinking is that the diamonds are literally everywhere, physically and spiritually. But then wasteland elder has the sun sigil so idek
I think, the trees were burned to make land for industry which is shown in this mural
I've seen people saying GW was a diamond factory, is there anything qwe know about it.?*
/butterfly elaborate
@bitter shale ohhhh ok ok
Omg thank you that helps
There was a talk earlier here about how Mr. Pilgrim was the one who drew the murals
And when I relived his memories, it definitely did look like it was him
Wait what does gw stand for
Golden Wasteland
Golden Wasteland
golden wasteland
Lol
Ah ok thank you
/jinx lmao
Arent forest more fit to be called as diamond factory? Or maybe gw have more modern technique in diamond producing?
im the last darn
Yea, forest also is i think.
Both forest and gw have artificial star factories
I'm not too sure about it being a diamond factory, I see more shields and destroyed butterfly jars than anything when I go through it
But gw had factories or something,, orr toxic is something else.
Mhm, burning trees makes sense.
Well, to refresh your memories yall...
The toxin would have had to come from SOMEWHERE don't cha think
GW also has a lot of metal as we've all noticed, and the toxic waste we've also seen
/the fire seems to be making the raining clouds in the mural? is this why rain= drain, but water does not tho
Gw have factories totally just entering the first krill area the buildings are very similar to the forest ones
Orange light was found in Forest. What it did is summon light creatures
The toxic waste is literally draining out of the metal tubes
Then the factory idea.
Take this if you will.
Yes
They’re diamond factories, to those of you who don’t know
Ah yes, manta juicer
MDNDNDJDSKDK
FJDFJGD
ah yes i love manta juicing
It would make sense they had to have two different areas for it tbh that's a lot of power and a lot of memories to store
I think forest was the starting of them discovering industry and manufacturing diamonds,
They then must've found a big forest and burned it to make land for an industrial area i.e. gw, and they took it too far there in gw
That actually does make sense
Yep that makes sense.
We dont see a lot of burnt trees tho
If anything, fire can help Forests when they're too dried out
But maybe they've decomposed?
yep not alot just a few football fields
Yea, then the toxic thing happened.
When trees are burnt thoroughly, they don't leave much behind especially if they're decomposing
Yes
What about krills, how did they come.
Okay but i found it weird that Teth's statue is located right where they formed the diamonds
And adding onto the toxins, im not surprised if the vines beneath the earth that grew the trees also withered away
And it's been a long hecking while so there isn't a very reliable way to tell
And there's a bunch of sand there now too
Hmmm, Orange light summons light creatures. Not burning-
not sure for krills on how they just come
They put teth in the machine to punish her 
Flame does not burn in any of concept lore
They put teth in the machine to punish her
sounds too cruel
oh god don't put that inage in my head
Krills i think are attracted to darkness, came from eden and therefore when toxins overtook GW they were attracted to that darkness and just went towards it
Oop
And there's broken shields right, that means the workers fought with the krills.?
Or anything
One shield has a spear in it
So I'm kinda against the idea of them using flame to uhh... Burn everything. Cause Flame works differently in Sky
So I mean
Yea, there's also spears.
soldiers mustve have fight the machine must be automatic i guess
Okay but i found it weird that Teth's statue is located right where they formed the diamonds
@bitter shale Teth’s whole shtick is creating things, as we know from their cutscene and the name of their music track “the invention”, and since the shrines are at important places to them it makes sense that it would be there.
So someone was sided with the dark creatures
This has 4 things
1.trees
2.clouds(maybe it's the pollution but we usually see clouds depicted in that form)
3. Fire element/ light of fire
4. Fire around trees and the light
I'm just wondering why this shield was so far away from where rhe others were tho
I've seen rain depicted in murals with the forgotten ark
Along with the krill
But idk if those spirits are important
LoneWolf, I think it looks like a fire burning the trees.
their maybe is a guard near the gate and saw the enemies
which result in death of course
Ark was saved maybe , from the toxic (saved by spirits)
@livid valley that's really sad then if that's true cuz then they were the first to go
Also someone pointed out that the cloud is shaped like a krill
Which may mean that they were formed when the smoke/pollution from burning the tree concentrated
This is amazing tbh
Thanks to whoever Pointed that krill shape
Let me send those murals pics over
Oh woa, so krills might be born from the fact that GW got burned.?
Thanks!
im still thinking is the people on the sec pic is holding a BIG BOI pickaxes or a umbrella
Wait... The Krill being formed the smoke of the Orange Light..?
I'm thinking umbrella tbh
We’ve mostly taken those murals to indicate a connection between lightseekers and enchantment, since the umbrellas and hats appeared there
the fact that krills were born from the fact that trees got burned seems intresting.
Tbh, idk about this. But dont you guys think that Pointing Pilgrim's cutscene giving a... lonely vibe?
My theory is, what if the pilgrim actually doing self exile? Like, maybe because of guilt? Or grief? Or maybe for another reason?
I think that was the conclusion we had reached anyway
@worn flint that is an interesting theory. Because then even though the forest has dark plants growing everywhere along with acid rain. The krill never came because of the trees
Krills being born from burning trees but werent they literally darkness
Its either he is self exiling because of grief (something connected woth the prophecy or the prophets perhaps?) Or for a reason that related to us skids?
But I mean wood trees, you know not the dark ones.
That's why I'm thinking they came from eden but idk
is fire and fire is light
^^
They seems to preserve themselves to be in that place so they can guide us?
Flame is the manifestation of light. Primal manifestation of light
They also attack because they hate light don't they.?
/need or hate?
@bitter shale butter and I actually talked about him earlier lol
I feel like hate
same
Our light takes form of a flame of a candle
Light fragments (wax) appear like flame fragments
When Manta in GW gets krilled, you briefly see an orange flame.
Makes more reason if its hate imo, since they didnt just straight ate the manta. They literally smashed the manta and destroy it
They want everything to be like them, cold and void of light
Mhm
Ah yes, emo krills
We love some emo krills
/ well i have theory they eat mantas tho but hmmm
Jen, I totally love that-
imagine krill humanized but dressed like an emo and listening to MCR-
Krills cant make me a darkness hah i wish they can
Jen you're on a roll
/they eat mantas and mistaken us as a manta
@bitter shale bruh and they're just sitting in a corner and saying no one understands them
/=> yoinks the kid but realize not food
Flos I'm listening to MCR i feel attacked
Omg the krill would be Goob from Meet the Robinsons
@worn flint i like mcr too dont worry 
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

/ someone please draw emo krill
no u
Mmmm maybe tehy did try to eat us skids but our body is much more hard therefore they cant chew us??
what about the blue butterfly
Plz draw krill as goob plz lmaooo its stuck in my head now 🤣🤣
blue butterfly is blue
/old beta leftover
someone put butterfly coloring
awh I thought it had a meaning
Oh yea... the blue one in valley right?
Yea thought it meant something 
Or iiw there nay blues in other realm
/ oh do please theorize dont let me stop you tho
oh, I just thought it was-- a different species since realms also change the creatures around
The blue butterflies like to follow us the most tho and give off more energy than the orange butterflies, which need to be in clusters to give us actual energy
Yeah, or at least with me they do
/ sock say that to pyre he like classifying species
I noticed they recharge you faster
English on its finest i guess 
Anyway... i have seen lots of Valley elders fanart with that blue butterfly and lemme tell you that most of them are depicted as sad for a reason
In valley when they follow me yeah, they recharge a lot faster
I also like that
Also
English on its finest i guess
Anyway... i have seen lots of Valley elders fanart with that blue butterfly and lemme tell you that most of them are depicted as sad for a reason
ah yes the color blue
Hear me out here
jfjdkd hey guys, idk if this is very big info. But I've noticed the Prophecy emblem looks like a "Beta" or "Past" rendition of the current Light symbol
Oh yeah... there is only one blue butter and they did charge us without any help from other butters
You guys know how every constellation is missing a spirit? Like they're incomplete and such right
oh its not big info
Prophecy - 4 streaks
Light - 8 streaks
English on its finest i guess
Anyway... i have seen lots of Valley elders fanart with that blue butterfly and lemme tell you that most of them are depicted as sad for a reason
Im guilty for this
But yea blue butterfly always gives off sad and melancholic vibes
Marz, maybe they got lost.
its being mentioned about a few million times i think
Well it is big info but we already knew it
In my brain, I theorized that why there's blue butterflies is because those are the missing spirits
Blue DOES feel like death sometimes in this place
@worn flint let me theorize
@hybrid oxide no you are not guilty
i love everyone who draw valley elders
Is there any other blue butterfly.?
ahh owki. It's my first time here, huhuhu
there’s three butterflies, even if only one flies around the arena
if you stand around long enough you can see them fly into the sky
/meow dont let people down it's new to them
haha ok
nojk wait what
nahnah it's finee. I did expect it to be pretty obvious to most people
@lethal stump the missing spirits 
Oh yeah have anyone heard about eden crown-
Is valley an ice dessert?
wait this is the first time i've heard of blue butterflies?
what missing spirits ?
Hold on
this is so many topics at once oml-
but I do get the hunch that the Cave of Prophecies is in the past.
Since you use a portal to get there, unlike literally every other realm that isn't ||office||
I feel like the missing ones got harmed while protecting sky kids.?
I'll brb prophet
Oh raze have you seen the lore moff doc?
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lore moff doc?
You guys know how every constellation is missing a spirit? Like they're incomplete and such right
@stark oracle what do you mean?
this is so many topics at once oml-
welcome to lore chat
Oh butterfly can be represent as lost spirit that wandering on the living world btw
/Synaz, areana area
@gilded fossil thank u
Yea I agree with that.
/Raz no need to spoiler! No beta tho
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Ok look
Thanks brick
Oh butterfly can be represent as lost spirit that wandering on the living world btw
Ooh, interesting
look its paddles
You see how in valley, on the left side there's four but on the right side there's only 3
Yea, is there more than one blue buterfly?
I theorize that blue butterfly at the end is the missing spirit
Even in the prophecy conste, you can see there is one missing spirit
But idk 😐
Qg is in the middle
there’s three butterflies, even if only one flies around the arena
if you stand around long enough you can see them fly into the sky
^^^
Maybe a spirit that gave their power to a sky kid.
oh so you can see them everywhere.
Naw thats just bittersweet man
Maybe TGC is planning to have a giant season where all these missing spirits are the "seasonal spirits"?
If so, that'd be super brilliant on their end, planning this all from the beginning
/ goodness chat go nyoom today i cant keep track, normally we stay silent ffor like an hourr before having a topic help
extended season to 1 year
i hope that doesn't mean it's the last season when it happens-
Did i revive a chat
i hope that doesn't mean it's the last season when it happens-
@neat bane
I mean.. all things gotta end eventually...
Should i be proud
.
Things keep happening- I doubt they're gonna stop churning seasons out with that unless Sky crashes and burns
A rwvived chat is a good chat 
Maybe if that does happen, a new mechanic could replace seasons
Did i revive a chat
thank you
it's hard to imagine what else they'd do if not seasons tbh
TGC is the first gaming company im spending my money on lmao
/yall how many missing spirit is there in the constellation?
right XD
TGC is the first gaming company im spending my money on lmao
@stark oracle
for me, it's my first and only
/yall how many missing spirit is there in the constellation?
which
Do you think its an interesting take that we can actually skate on water like we did on ice after we got the water element in the trial
I always hc that the spirit's soul = a lost/fallen star in a constellation
So the star that's not a spirit on a constellation is stars that didn't fall
But that's a good theory too
we're Sky Jesus-
Which constellations jen
/i was thinking maybe there are, idk.. 63 mising spirits in te constellations
Missing spirits on the constellations are Elders
Do you think its an interesting take that we can actually skate on water like we did on ice after we got the water element in the trial
@bitter shale this is ELSA magic right here
Do you think its an interesting take that we can actually skate on water like we did on ice after we got the water element in the trial
God gave us jesus powers for 5 minutes
No, the empty stars not the Elder.
Ah
/nuh uh like we have constellation with emp- yep Sock
how many stars does it need to form each conste? (minus the elder)
isle : 7 (currently 3, lost 4)
prairie : 8 (currently 8, lost 0)
forest : 9 (currently 8, lost 1)
valley : 8 (currently 7, lost 1)
wasteland : 10 (currently 6, lost 4)
vault : 10 (currently 5, lost 5)
Elder star are the center one
/aww man not 63
I don’t necessarily think that they’re “lost” on purpose, it could just be a stylistic choice to not have the constellations line up exactly
aww man its not 69
Oh yeah have anyone heard about eden crown-
@bitter shale pls ping me for is a discussion about this comes XD
"blue butterfly = lost spirit" this is interesting tbh.
Maybe maybe not
/ moew no
I always hc that the spirit's soul = a lost/fallen star in a constellation
So the star that's not a spirit on a constellation is stars that didn't fallBut that's a good theory too
This is how I interpreted it
hey i think discussing abt eden crown is Illegal
/
moew noice
is it really?
eden crown? nah
Just another topic to add to the confusion:
I think the "Eden Elder" was the ruler of the Sky People. But since it was their fault as to why the darkness consumed the city of Eden, they didn't survive nor did anyone in Eden survive. Both their bodies and souls were consumed by the darkness
Oh yea blue butterfly gives more.
I can't tell if that's chat sarcasm or not rjcjdn
/ in lore chat we do illegal lore
Maybe that's why in isle we only see 3 stars falling from the sky the other four just never showed up lol
its been scrapped from sky its not some beta item
which is also why no spirits can be found in Eden
@neat bane alright xP
I have yet to see Eden Elder
no one has seen him
/KINNG!
aside his statues
oh yeah i have seen him in the art
/bricky let us have king pics??
No not like that keke like his statues and art and stuff
he has cool diamond mask owo
/what socck??
Many manta
No not like that keke like his statues and art and stuff
just make a blender of king and behold
the wasteland manta?
Valley race, the one blue butterfly is-
@livid valley ooooo
wasteland manta have mask?
Meow you've brought my hopes up for the Eden elder lmao
the wasteland manta?
@neat bane
wait... how did that Manta get in Wasteland???
your welcome
I'm lost what are we talking about
@bitter shale if thats what eden elder looks like I'm very sCaReD
/eden elder is reika
@neat bane
wait... how did that Manta get in Wasteland???
@rancid phoenix ah there were theories about this, and i remembered non i'm sorry
/manta do be sneaky, he follow the tuna king
I'm lost what are we talking about
@stark oracle
butterflies, lost spirits, eden elder or king of sky people, mantas, etc.
@stark oracle lemme tell you tqht the statue is huger than it can be fit in that picture
Idk why but everytime I see the King I just get Sauron vibes
And tall as well
I need to go there
@rancid phoenix ah there were theories about this, and i remembered non i'm sorry
@neat bane
ndkdkw AAAAA
ok i feel the sauran vibes
this guy is a gigantic building of a person with a star head-
Yea the buterfly is like a spirit, it just went inside a w a l l
i remember my first time landing on one of his statues' shoulders, i got literal chills
A star? Or perhaps a constellation like the elders?
Where can I find this statue 😩
Well this channel is chaos rn so I think I’m just gonna go sleep lol... good luck keeping track of what’s going on y’all 
/ must do school guys gtg have fun loring~!
Or even better, the leader of the constellations?
Good luck catching up in the morning more like XD
Where can I find this statue 😩
@stark oracle wasteland~
Ooooooo
aa nyoom chat
I just realized. When you do Orbit, you actually go to space.
Is it possible to build a rocket in Sky and leave the planet-? (lore-wise)
@neat bane I know wasteland but where in wasteland 
my brain cannot process information this fast i do not understand whats going on pls
i'm in the same boat rn
This chat is chaos rn so, I'mma yeet away
god that's a lot of lore
@stark oracle outside elder's temple
Lmaooo
Peeks in from Science class to watch the chaos 
oop
@neat bane I know wasteland but where in wasteland
@stark oracle graveyard and battlefield. but i usually visit the ones in battlefield
you know those 4 huge pillar looking things
What are the dead creature skeletons in Wasteland?
i'm like
i understand but
do i Really process this information
We spoke about so much lore today, all of you guys are big brain and talking with yall is the highlight of my day ✨
Cause they're skeletons. Meaning they were once alive
I love it here so much
/ lore chat 2: gen chat boogaloo , with all the chaos today
What are the dead creature skeletons in Wasteland?
we call them whurtles ! basically the head of turtle and body of whale
Yall are giving me more reason to thoroughly scope out GW
Do skykids have Bones?
oOoh, whurtle
What are the dead creature skeletons in Wasteland?
@rancid phoenix the theories were either whale, megakrill, king manta i think
now that's a terifying thing I never thought to consider
Megakrill-
Do skykids have Bones?
@uncut stirrup
When we hit stuff, we make a bell sound... that's proooobably our bones
@uncut stirrup from the amount of times I've been yeeted i don't think so hahaha
Do skykids have Bones?
@uncut stirrup what are skykids even made of-
Are wicks their bones?
Do skykids have Bones?
if we do sassy stance skids must have scoliosis
SMXMSMXMSM
Are we made of stardust 🥺
clay
could be
Skids are stoned
i don't think we're made of candles for sure
Wax, maybe?
we're made of hopes and dreams of artists who had to sell their souls to earn money by making yes art
Its commonly believed we're clay or stone
so if we are wax ,, when we absorb wax do we just ,, absorb a a part of us
If they were made of wax, then would all skykid hands be sticky?
i don't think it's wax or candles, we literally recharge on fire
Pff
Mainly due to the fact that clay pots were used to make sound effects for our skid
we would melt if we were wax
maybe we're made of fire?
If we're made of wax are we just picking up stray organs
Mainly due to the fact that clay pots were used to make sound effects for out skid
@thin dirge oh this is a good theory
Not if we're hard wax 😚
mm melting skykids @worn flint Hot ?
(just ignore the times we touch water and not die)
KAT NO
Yeah, it was commonly believed we were made of stone or clay in this chat-
But if their hands were sticky, itd explain why they can hold hands so well!
BLUE BUTTERFLY
@queen locust auto cannibalism but make it pg 13
Well, in the past-
IT'S REAL!!
also second image is on chest part
Awesome- I totally needed to sleep with all this morbid info
the king is so majestic im scared
what in the world-
The king???
Quick question before I say this, has anyone seen Nausicca of The Valley of The Wind?
looks like Patrick Star's buffed iut daddy
i definitely think the devs made him based of off sauron or something
YES YES
OKAY
THESE STATUES REMIND ME OF THE WARRIORS FROM THE SEFEN DAYS OF FIRE.
What if skykids were purpousfully made without bones so they could slam into things
go on-
THINK ABOUT IT GUYS THINK ABOUT IT
I mean.. we get blown by 10 m/h winds
sorry my last braincell has been used
Okay so since I barely saw these just now thanks to flo, this theory is short as heck
that's very very sad
Still show the t h e o r y
bbBrbrbrbrb GIVE THEOR RY
Seven Days of Fire but literally only the Wasteland has been rendered useless
these lads?
who-
@stark oracle no worries
ACTUALLY. What if our bones are similar to a bird's: Hollow
It would explain why we make a bell sound when bumping into things!!
Krill fighters
In nausicca, because humans treated the earth so poorly the warriors rose from the earth and brought upon the seven days of fire. They tore down civilizations so earth could be made anew once more
And how we fly so easily
I got chills these things are terrifying
and how we cant feel pain
I also wanna say,
So... Sky kids have wind chimes for bones?
There was more animals since there's an hunter spirit with a bow.
I mean... now wind chimes irl are ruined for us
idk man Skids dosent care about getting hit by krills
That... honestly sounds kinda pretty
unless they have light ofc
That has got to be the most annoyingly loud thing
spousey I Am Looking
We go through wind all the time you know how much sound that makes rkdkdkdk
also if they have bones i would have made a skeleton as nightmarish as the fall guys one
In sky, GW and forest were quickly become manufacturing sites, toxins spewed out of the tubes and poisoned the earth. These statues remind me of the warriors as they can be seen as symbols of the stars, they came from the sky to fix the mistakes of both the elders and the ancestors. But, although they came from a good place. They rendered the entire land useless and desolate, bringing darkness upon all the realms
Ooo i should archive this theory
oh btw this is the description of the sea of corruption from nausicaa
The Sea of Corruption was the new world... An ecological system born in the polluted wastelands created by civilizations long past. Only the great insects could live among the giant fungi and the miasma they exhaled, and so the earth was slowly submerging beneath that decaying sea...
And archived
and
Wait a hot second- if we're going for the Nausicaa thing are we meant to believe the corruption here is a cleansing mechanism


I mean
Well, the darkness hasn't rly done much of cleansing tbh
I mean. Sky world brought this ruin upon themselves if we're taking the nausicca route
Wastleand looks very icky loll
wasteland is waste land
WASTE LANDSJDJSJDJSJD

I feel like all of us need to make a Google doc together, especially Lonewolf cuz do u see those edits they have
I like it...
You know what thing took the most time?
Drawing those 4 elemental things to fill out empty space at the top 
Hueheheheheh
WASTE LANDSJDJSJDJSJD
your pfp is cursed anyway
I appreciate you Lonewolf

In Nausicaa though- remember how toxic it was to humans, these new organisms
we do know for a fact that the devs did take ghibli movies for inspirations right?
The cleansing wasn't meant for the people- it was meant for the rest of the world
So it wouldn't spread any further
I would love if you guys actually read what I've written and maybe suggest what else can be theorized or make your own theories!🌸
I heard they did take inspiration from at least one movie... Cant remember which tho
Theie danger is a defense mechanism so that they'd be harder to destroy
I would love if you guys actually read what I've written and maybe suggest what else can be theorized or make your own theories!🌸
@broken basin hello yes please
Wolf you are an actual savior you know that fkekfmdkdm
Another thought just came to my head, ive said this before but theorizing the statues to be like the warriors reminds me of the line from ATLA when the owl says "do you think you're the only ones who believe your war was justified?"
@neat bane I was talking about the photo which I've posted ❤️
ah okok, I need to go somewhere so bye yall!!
whats ATLA
Avatar the last Airbender
~~I'll come back here later ~~ 
Avatar The Last Airbender
avatar the last aribender
/Lone Wolf although i do think cyan= isle but nice sheet! i love it!
oh i dont watch that so is the owl magical
No
The owl frightens me so freaking bad
Still to this day I would never cross that owl 🦉😪
i loved the owl, definitely has vault vibes
Oh, I didn't connect it with enchantment. I realted them with the elements and the look of the place in mural
Cyan looks Watery
Idk anywhere else in Sky that has floating islands
that's a well-made sheet 
@neat bane that's exactly what I was thinking 
right??
we're getting somewhere
Wait a minute big brain
spill the brain dude what's up-
yo definitely ping me if you guys are making another separate doc
THANSKSS huehshse
It’s such a good file hg
Imma give it a try
Well edited
@thorn spade can i ask who is teh man in your pfp-
I downloaded it like 5 times is this testament to how much I love it-
😳 ❤️
kfoekssk gotta go CR. Bai guyss, great meeting yall ^^
Aight see ya Raze
Maybe I'll come back here once in a while, heudhhe
Okay so the owl was the protector of the knowledge, and was a keeper of each of the four nations knowledge. Whether it be their own lore or their war strategies or just anything he could get his hands on. He was also keen on limited edition things (for instance, kataras water bending scroll) and vault in itself is the knowledge of each of the realms and each of the elders. The vault elder by themselves were taken to look after this knowledge, and their helpers even had telekinetic abilities as we saw from spirit in the third level.
I love doing lore discussions. uWAaa
I typed too long dammit
BUT EXACTLY
I think the masks at the top of trial areas are just to signify whose trial it is, since they correspond with each elemental prophets mask. But idk
regarding the owl that's what i thought too I- gimme a sec imma have mindblown moment
What if why the vault elder looks so tired, is because when GW elder failed they had to release their power. What that power is idek but im thinking
I call them masks, but I guess they’re more like lanterns
The actual masks are masks tho
@novel marten tehy give us the power of elements too
Before I leave, just wondering if you guys ever make meme lore theories like how The Office fits into the Sky world? HAAHHAHAA
/ raz are you happens to be ASEAN, sorry of topuc
@rancid phoenix oh we already did-
/
raz are you happens to be ASEAN, sorry of topuc
@gilded fossil
Asean..-?
Oop
south east asian?
Oh., I forgot to add my tag in the photos, can I write and respost it?
asean is amusing dkfndmdm
Sure!
/ yep raz
aH. Yepyep
not exactly office but got the same vibe btw
wait @stark oracle can i like, dm you?
@rancid phoenix oh we already did-
@bitter shale
ooOoooOh do tell

@rancid phoenix indonesian? 👀
@neat bane yes!
Philippines, hesuheeh
ohh i didnt remember about it xP but i recall someone did already made the tjing
oho, hello there neighbor

SKXJSNJDDJ AYYYYY FELLOW FILIPINO
@rancid phoenix indonesian? 👀
@bitter shale hi fellow +62
i see
/ ~~hello neighbors!!!!~~anyways, bacc to lore sorry
Me : an American sitting in the corner 
U guys : "hello there neighbor" "fellow filipino"
Me : cries

h e y
+63's
haha very cool but back to lore
btw. What have you guys theoriezed as to why Eden keeps endlessly collapsing wheneve you enter Orbit?
Lonewolf you are amazing
colo time, cyall in 20 more minutes-
I've also seen a theory with that as well
ahHh
i w
Especially with vault
Was Sky not an endless morbid cycle of death and rebirth-
/ooh bricky had a timeloop theory too if you wanna check out
@queen locust we're gathering evidence to see if it is
why is it that way is the question
@neat bane true true
so, did anyone actually read what I've written 
/ooh bricky had a timeloop theory too if you wanna check out
@gilded fossil wait is it in the doc? i might have missed it
ILL READ IT NOW
I think I heard another theory. Where we basically stored our memories in Vault. Your skykid actually dies in Eden and are reborn as a new skykid wheneve you finish eden. And since you visited vault, your memories are restored in the new Skykid
I just assumed since we keep living to die all the time that was a given- sorry XD
so basically. You actually did die and your first skykid has been dead all this time
Ah i'll check it out later, i've got assigments to do. Happy loring yall!!
@rancid phoenix that theory was a mess to talk out but it was fun
what if we are actually in a coma and the elders are our real life family. and the creatures are our plushies irl. im not crying you are
Good luck dude uwu
except the krills they are dad's failed tempura
@rancid phoenix that theory was a mess to talk out but it was fun
@stark oracle
yeaa I don't get it rn either. Hsusshjs
I think I explained it wrog
plushies trying to kill you? seems convincing
Also in the office it's written
Isle-birth
Prairie- childhood
Forest- teenage
Valley- adulthood
Gw- midlife crisis
Eden- oldage/death
Orbit-rebirth
There was no mention of the vault iirc
Wasn't Vault established as the Old person period-
vault isnt real so is its elder. vault elder is jenova chen in disguise. my theory has beem proven
what if we are actually in a coma and the elders are our real life family. and the creatures are our plushies irl. im not crying you are
@thorn spade
Forest Elder is your older brother trying to wake you up by shaking your hospital bed like a madman
or older sister
vault isnt real so is its elder. vault elder is jenova chen in disguise. my theory has beem proven
oh yeah? wheres the evidence to prove it
and Vault elder is your father who kinda gave up already lmao
/no need evidence lmao
i think isle and vault = our grandparents
forest and wasteland = our parents
prairie = our uncle
and valley = our older siblings
Maybe vault is just the stage of life when we are about to enter oldage and we start recalling all our moments in life in form of memories?
So maybe yeah, vault is just an illusionary memorial of all the realms
/no need evidence lmao
NO.
/unless you can disprove it all theories in here canon
vault elder isnt real theyre just jenova chen
no
Maybe vault is just the stage of life when we are about to enter oldage and we start recalling all our moments in life in form of memories?
So maybe yeah, vault is just an illusionary memorial of all the realms
@broken basin
makes sense...it explains how big vault is, like... w o a h
lift their egghead and mask. it's jenova chen i swear
/and reika= king
i'm lost who in hecc is jenova chen-
/director for Sky
O h- okay
/first name in the credits lmao
jenova chen is like tgc's boss or sumn
Jenova Chen created That Game Company and is the Director for Sky
yeaaah that
Jenova Chen was so anxious about the success of Journey, that he programed a Bot irl to take his place while he imputed his existence into a backup project: Sky
And now he's the Vault Elder
/lmaaaao
I never watched the credits I'll go look for that now ddkdk
/ i hope he made the skids gatorade
what if Sky had gore?
/youre saying me putting a moth onto the catapult isnt gore
what if Sky had gore?
No.
Tho, it's a hijab, iirc the name
/ game would be 13+ tho
Imagine play Store saying 18+ on sky
just imagine your lights turned into Skids blood when the Krill hit you
God imagine the gut spilling
🌸Back to lore🌸
sorry which question was that again-
/why they made the trials
Imo, to choose the one who has the abilities to gather all the 4 wisdoms (1 is patience, 3 are yet to be known)
/like did they knew that eden was gonna happen one way or another, and prepare the spirits so they came ascend to orbit
/why would they need someone with all the wissdom then?
There's no way Eden wasn't involved in this I think
but that probably goes without saying
Maybe someome attained all 4 wisdoms from all trails and gave it to the propehts, they then gave the 4 wisdoms to the Isle elder which made this whole kingdom possible since it granted those wisdoms to it's people.?
I think we already know water propehts that it's balance or calmness
I have no clue about earth propeht
Air prophet is looking all about balance
Fire prophet as one person pointed out looks to be about bravery or courage
And all these factors are needed while making a successful civilisation
Patience to be patient and let the civilization develop
Balance might mean that there should be balance of powers ina civilization and all power doens't have to concentrated in one's hand
Courage and bravery because one needs of stay brave or courageous to surpass all the difficult times and falls that'll come in the future of it's development
One factor still remains hidden which the the earth propehts
I feel like the prophets were sent to help in the starting of the sky kingdom by choosing the one who can manage all 4 wisdoms
Sorry , it might be messy Jen, cause it's a compilation of my old texts here
This is why trials were made
Ofc , acc to me lol, just a theory
/ no worries i love text walls with lore!
/hmm, are they..picking out someone to rule???
/the prince perhaps?
This ^
Going by that though can I assume that the King himself went through this sort of trial or smthn
Yeah, i mean , he wasn't actually the King when he did them, that title was given to him after
/is this why sky bot say sth like : the trials do be repeated ???
/with the "we = prince" theory we repeat the trials??
We do the trials, cause we are reincarnations of the king 
It's kind of connecting
/like the prince once was!
Lol, Jen, same time
/ chat less nyooming now what happened?
If that was the case then could the Prophecy have been wrong about the King because of everything that happened afterwards
But it sure is a bit connecting
And that excites me, that we might actually be able to figure it out this time💪
/is bewware the prophecyy is the prophets talking to themselves???
The Prophecy has been lost at sea, I wonder who'll find it...
wait what
/ darn it skybot
Sea is around the isle
/wait
Wait
a hot minute
The whole kingdom is around the sea ig
/the prophecy, and not "the prophets/cave?"
help im stuck writing prophecies
If Isle is, then all of it should be lmao
/the prophecy is surrounded by water? doesis sky bot talking about murals???grammar help

Maybe skybot's using a metaphor and reffering to murals as a confusing sea?
So, basically he's just saying the Prophecy is lost in the murals, and we have to find it
Hey- correct me if I'm wrong but have I seen a Sanc mural depicting the Isle Elder in this chat before or am I just insane
I hope we will
/ butter what sort of knowledge you havent told us yet
The whole chat is getting more and more interesting day by day
no really was there a mural like that
/tsadi vibe checkin the prince?
Thats a bug
Wait he said "at the sea"
Not "in the sea"
Wait that was Tsadi-
Guys its a bug..
The caves are sure at the / near the sea

Aw dangit-
Uggghhhh... If only they listeneddd....
So , he's maybe saying the Prophecy is lost in the caves which is true ig
Cause the cave has the murals
Lol
2 metaphors 
/ are we dissecting everywword sky bot sáy now?
Lmao, maybe
i thought skybbot wasnt canon
M a y b e- brophet needs a break-
I mean, one of their lines did hint something
Yes he's been spilling quite a lot of tea nowadays