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gilded fossil
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they turn red when u thouchem
/they glow!

fossil oxide
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I know

gilded fossil
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/also how rain works?

fossil oxide
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I was wondering why

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rain is from gw

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clouds?

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are there any existing theories on clouds glowing

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I wanna disprove something tonight

gilded fossil
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I wanna disprove something tonight
/oof a bit rough there pyre

fossil oxide
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but it is sooo fun

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the art of thinning the lore herd

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refining the theories

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that is the jewel

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of the lore channel

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sooo

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what we got

short owl
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If red reflects tools, maybe that's why clouds go red? If you touch clouds, you charge using them and ooooooooh I bet I know what Eden was for

wind arch
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Wait, clouds go red?

fossil oxide
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yup

wind arch
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Omg red is the colour of the first light LightRed which is swirly like a cloud

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In teh murals

short owl
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Eden may well be a cloud generator - designed to put light into the air for use by those around it

gentle sparrow
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😳

wind arch
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I thought that too, the clouds seem to be coming from it

fossil oxide
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hmmmmmmmm

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good theory

wind arch
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In fact

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It could be a generator for matter

fossil oxide
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but isn't a symbol of evil?

wind arch
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As even rocks come from it

topaz girder
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if you get close to a cloud and have a good look it turns orange

wind arch
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It's probably something good turned evil

fossil oxide
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yup

solar relic
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for clouds glowing (i assume you are talking about them reflecting light), it's probably due to the water droplets in them reflecting off light in many directions

clouds going red? i've only see them go red when you try to step into barriers, at least that's what i think since i usually get knocked away by the red part of the clouds (in forest at least)

fossil oxide
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I still think clouds r made from precipitation in sky

wind arch
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Wha

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You mean evaporation?

fossil oxide
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the rocks r chipped off of the mountain

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same thing gramps

solar relic
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they're

fossil oxide
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I think

solar relic
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not the same thing

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evaporation is a liquid changing into a gas precipitation is a solid changing into a gas (i got it wrong oops)

fossil oxide
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oops

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got it upside down

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but still u get my point

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the rocks r chipped off of the mountain

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eden is a gate way to orbit

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nothing else

wind arch
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Oh wow

solar relic
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(i'm not sure about the precipitation thing please correct me if i'm wrong LOL)
so you think the clouds are the rocks are chipped off the mountain...?

wind arch
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It's actually the rain that gives me the most trouble; shouldn't the water take your energy too??

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They are literally made of the same stuff

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Unless it's the motion of the rain that takes your energy?

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That seems to be the difference

solar relic
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for me, i think that the rain is the evaporated wasteland/factory discharge

fossil oxide
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yup

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me 2

wind arch
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Wouldn't the clouds drain your energy if that was the case?

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The clouds giving rain

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Not all clouds

fossil oxide
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the mushrooms clean up the dirty water on the ground

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and the clouds seem to absord and distribute light

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magic clouds

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pollution on the level of wasteland wont even dent the purity of clouds

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I think

solar relic
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i think it would depend on the area

fossil oxide
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oh and guys the small jelly fish have a strange sparkle inside them

solar relic
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you don't depend much on clouds for the majority of wasteland and also forest's rainy areas now that i think about it

fossil oxide
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I think the small jellyfish are a sifferent species

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name it name it name it

wind arch
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you don't depend much on clouds for the majority of wasteland and also forest's rainy areas now that i think about it
Yeah true

fossil oxide
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guys

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small jellyfish

wind arch
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Also the only place you rely on clouds in forest has no rain

fossil oxide
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r u guys ignoring the jellyfish thing?

wind arch
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Am I?

solar relic
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so i can't really say for sure that the clouds in those areas are of polluted water or not

small jellyfish? what do you mean?

wind arch
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What do you think we should name it

solar relic
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just wanted to wrap up the cloud topic

fossil oxide
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a scientific name

solar relic
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wait why do we need scientific names though?

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in terms of lore

wind arch
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For fun

fossil oxide
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super fun

wind arch
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So we are theorising what they would be named

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So it's lore SkyLOL

fossil oxide
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and in some instances when we want to soud cool and then link the doc

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like this

wind arch
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I think we need to observe the buildings more

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Like how I just found out today that the forest door has the secret to making darkstone

solar relic
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i see pPopcorn

fossil oxide
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Chrysaora genus

modest finch
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I love how yall came up with scientific names, makes it a lot more fun honestly pSkyPeek

fossil oxide
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pls guys naming first

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then buildings

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like right after

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pls

wind arch
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What is the genus

fossil oxide
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Chrysaora

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how about coruscent

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means sparkle

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soooooooo

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Chrysaora coruscent

wind arch
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Sounds like coruscant

fossil oxide
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ha

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great sound track

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I play binary sunset every day in sky

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ok

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now lets vote

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Chrysaora coruscent

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more ideas r still welcome until OreoYes -OreoNo = 3

wind arch
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K it's threee

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Sparkly jello

fossil oxide
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no its 2

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I see 2

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.....

wind arch
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I literally see 3

fossil oxide
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why do I see 2

wind arch
fossil oxide
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hey gramps r we the only 2 still left

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whos the third guy who didOreoYes

wind arch
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I'm on mobile

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Wait what

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There's only you and me

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But I see three

cosmic ember
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Jellybois

wind arch
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Now 4

fossil oxide
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I got u me and rosella

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anyways 3

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or 4

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whatever u see

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I`ma update it

wind arch
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Sure

modest finch
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I see 3 as wellpEyes

wind arch
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then buildings
...

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Great

fossil oxide
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military hierarchy of the kingdom of sky

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oh right

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buildings

wind arch
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I think we should take things slow...

fossil oxide
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architecture of sky

wind arch
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I was thinking of documenting stuff first

fossil oxide
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lets give them all a name

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not just the famous ones

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like the citadel

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aka the orrery

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even the little ones

wind arch
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Hmm

fossil oxide
wind arch
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The thing on top of the prairie temple door... Does anyone have any ideas to what it is???

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It looks like a bull to me

fossil oxide
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pic pic pic

wind arch
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But I'm not so sure

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I'm sorry I can't get one now

fossil oxide
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me 2...…..

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lets do the naming of the buildings tomorrow

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when we can get visual confermation

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I will remind all of u when I log in tomorrow

wind arch
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I think looking at the designs will also tell us more about which side of the war the realms were on

fossil oxide
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today we do military!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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yayayayayayayayayay

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ok as far as we know

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the army wears green

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scouts wear black

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the navy wears blue(?)

wind arch
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Vault persons wear blue right

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Actually

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I think they wore according to their allegiance

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Either to the king or to megan

fossil oxide
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hhhhmmmmmmm

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yeah

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and there is standardized GI equipmet for soldiers too.

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they get this white cape

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most get helmets

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lookouts don't get weapons

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sword/spear

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and always a shield

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for the rank and file soldiers

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see the graves

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the battle of the battlefield seems to have been fought over a series of forts

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seeing that there r barricades and most of the graves on the ground surrounding the fort r sun shield graves

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we can assume that it was a siege

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the diamonds were in the fort

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and the suns were outside

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firework artillery staffs were probably used to drive away the krill guarding the forts

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and were prob also used to bring down the fort

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military haircuts did exist (lookout scout)

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but free hairstyles seems to be allowed to generals and spies

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admirals were expected to go down with his or her ship

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(the admiral salutes his troops from the sinking warship the life boats escape the wreckage)

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we know the fire work artillery staffs were weapons because first, they cost waaaaaaaaay too much to be just a stick that shoots bursts of light

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and second because that was the only thing the soldiers had on them at shipwreck

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trenches were probably dug to escape the wrath of the krill and to create defilades from fire work staffs

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and then created were the agile swordsman who jumped into the trenches and slaughtered the clumsy spearmen with their long spears

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trade ships were converted to warships

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so they had no weaponry of their own

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but regiments of firework staff guys were stationed in the warships to destroy a fort from above

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we know that forts were made earlier than warships because if warships existed first forts would be no use

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to stop the advance of the sun army`s advance krills were placed higher in the atmosphere in passes to protect the wastelands from war ship attacks

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the forgotten ark was likely collateral damage

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remember this is just a theory

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but probably the right one

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we know that the wastelands were already a militarized zone before the war because the statues and the warrior like helmets already present in valley

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the war was most likely an uprising of isle prairie and forest

cold dock
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damn

wind arch
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Woah

trim vale
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Also catapults

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If you think about it sky kids are pretty strong

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They can trigger a catapult by themselves and even open shut doors with the help of others

broken basin
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There were two separate groups of people who fought, one group used spear and one group used swords.

trim vale
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Oh? I thought ihey only used spears

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They*

broken basin
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No

trim vale
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Are there anymore swords on battlefield? I never tried looking for some

broken basin
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There are

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iirc

trim vale
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Just very big intimating spears

broken basin
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Also There's a sword display in eden trophy room

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I mean that small room where you find 1 Winged light

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The war in wasteland was a civil war

trim vale
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I Know that much just thought they used spears since one of the cutscenes shows spirits with spears...I think

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I don't watch the vault cutscenes too often

broken basin
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This is what I think happened:-
They wanted more and more power diamonds, but for that they needed light too, so the King ordered the people to use the light creatures ( like mantas, butterflies, etc) as a material. Some people went against this statement, they wanted to save the precious creatures which they had.
That's how they got divined into two groups, the one which supported the King and the one which was against. I think the which supported King was team moon and the one's against were team sun. (That's what I call them)
The against group started a war since the king's team wasn't agreeing to not sacrificing light creatures. The wasteland elder, was supposed to fight on the king's side but during the war, he changed sides, he went from team moon to team sun since he later realised how cruel it is to kill the creatures just to make power diamonds.

trail chasm
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just share my fan art of King here

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I enjoy the King lore

broken basin
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You made this?

trail chasm
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yes

broken basin
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That's soooo goooood

hushed steeple
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Wait guys what happens when you complete eye of Eden?

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Be literally never been able to do it it’s really frustrating

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Ive*

inner comet
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Watch a walkthrough

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You may lose all your winged light but trust me, its worth itpEyes

hushed steeple
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Thanks I’ll take your word for it

inner comet
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Are you new to the game btw?

hushed steeple
short owl
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@hushed steeple if you are struggling, you could ask for an Eden Uber in #looking-for-group-live . it's late in the week though, so you will likely have to finish on your own. (Don't worry, they'd drop you off at the point where skill is no longer needed for story purposes)

hushed steeple
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Thank you

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I keep thinking that you have to survive but the entire point is literally to die

tender dune
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Are there anymore swords on battlefield? I never tried looking for some
@trim vale
The weapons/shields in wasteland
First Area:
2 spears (most likely)

Graveyard:
1 Sword

Battlefield:
6 Sun shield (one is broken)
6 Diamond shield
9 Swords
11 Spears

Temple:
1 Spear
1 Sun shield

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You'll also see that one sunshield is pierced by spear and one diamond shield also pierced by spear. Which shows that both factions used spears (+ which is why there are a lot of spears)

hushed steeple
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And also gw elder used sunshield and diamond shield bothšŸ‘€

tender dune
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In temple we see sunshield but in mural we see diamond shield

sly kestrel
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Thassa better answer

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The mural and the constellation at home

hushed steeple
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It should also be noted that the shields and spears are in Ancient Greek style. Since those battles typically ended at the first injury or death unless they were fighting over something very important, that says a lot about what happened in Battlefield

short owl
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Back when I thought there were multiple light children, I thought it was about the technology of the Eden diamond being used to send the sick stars home

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At risk of... Well... What actually happened

hushed steeple
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In orbit gw has the sunshield

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Gw elder*

short owl
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Which does he have in cutscene again?

hushed steeple
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Which does he have in cutscene again?
In Temple cutscene he has sunshield

short owl
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Hmm... So the elders are all marked with diamonds (tsadi included), but ultimately Tsadi turned towards the sun...

I wonder if the elders orriginally turned because they, in their aware forms, are darkstone tech themselves

tender dune
hushed steeple
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And how does it still work? This technology is at the very least several decades old. This was built to last and its amazing that it does

tender dune
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Yeah

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The most intact places is inside temples

hushed steeple
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I wonder if the Elders’ influence helps to preserve them, since they can clearly impact the world around their shrines

tender dune
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Possible

short owl
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It was built by an expert... But things built by experts for experts may sometimes need more maintenance because experts tinker

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Uh network fail

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Not sure what is getting sent at the moment

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Ok now that's said for sure:

Though maybe that's part of the why. It's Teth's factory. Their home and prison. Their brainchild. If an elder can influence that large of an area like Overly Friendly Crypted suggests, maybe that's all Teth spent their time on.

hushed steeple
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Do wonder if teth's hammer is made of lightšŸ‘€

tender dune
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:0

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I still dunno how to oob there i accidentally went there onceSkyCry

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The hammer could be made of light?

hushed steeple
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Seems sošŸ‘€

tender dune
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Or maybe neutral but teth can buff it up with her powers??

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Not sure tbh im just thinking how she can hammer the material without ruining it (like if the hammer was made of darkness then it will probably corrupt/destroy the buttefly juice)

brittle gust
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When you enter the 3rd area of forest and the saw the first spirit you'll see has a bow

hushed steeple
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Bro remember how teth calls her hammer in cutscene.... Ngl reminds me about thor

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Teth may be a bit of a jerk and I’m still salty about it, but they do know how to act cool

tender dune
short owl
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You're not the only one here who is still salty

tender dune
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Ngl I think their action is reasonable to me. Imagine being stuck in solitute and without anything to fix the power diamonds for a very very long time. Then this child appears with a flame. I dont blame her for getting excited that her life's work was finally done and she can finally have some sort of peace and accomplishment

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Shows how overly dedicated she is to her work

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She was so overjoyed

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Compared to yeetus x2 SkyElderValley1 SkyElderValley2 šŸ˜‚

hushed steeple
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I guess that’s fair. And TGC tried to make us perceive Teth like how a lot of teenagers perceive adults, so… definitely a fair reaction, we’re just also meant to be salty

short owl
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Yeetus x2 kindaa won me over though. Yeah they took the flame but like... They asked first and then got caught up in their own competition

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pPopcorn is p accurate

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And then the music laughs at them so

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Maybe it helps that the twins did see us. They acknowledged US and clearly saw us as important enough to try to impress. Yeah, they forgot that, but the light wasn't their only foucus

tender dune
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Hahah

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Btw dont think this is lore related but im scared if its poop related somehow??
I found another one of those rainbow clocks on the side of forest temple [ before u enter]

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Anyone knows if it was there before?

primal verge
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Btw dont think this is lore related but im scared if its poop related somehow??
I found another one of those rainbow clocks on the side of forest temple [ before u enter]
@tender dune
D you have pics?

tender dune
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Only took this

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Its just there

primal verge
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Lemme go inspect 🧐

tender dune
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I dont have table to stand sadlySkyDontGo

primal verge
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My guess it's just a bug

pale kestrel
broken basin
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That's the trophy room, right?

tender dune
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2 sunshields and 2 swords SkyLOL

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and 1 missing compartment pEyes

orchid crypt
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Ginko, was that clock stone just before the forest temple doors?

tender dune
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yes

orchid crypt
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It just seems to be there whether or not you stop the rain, but no idea why SkyShrug

tender dune
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same, i sadly dunno how to read it to wait for whatever its counting

orchid crypt
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Think it’s broken like the daylight prairie one

tender dune
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i guess its just like what ignis said, a bug stickerGloomy

orchid crypt
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The other one in forest actually had a glowing spot which clearly marked 5am/pm

inner comet
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What does the clock even do?

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Ik the one in prairie means the mushroom ring thing but idk about forest

tender dune
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The one in forest would count the rainbow appearing taiga

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if im not mistaken the one in praire is also broken, it used to tell the time for the arrival of a boat that appears which u can ride but its been removed

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the mushroom rings appears every 10 mins in a hour or something like that

inner comet
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I never even saw a rainbow in forest i-

tender dune
hushed steeple
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@normal berry update, i found two spawn plates in prairies

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three if you count the one in the caverns

sly kestrel
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Those are from old beta

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Scrapped quests to be more specific

sinful anvil
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#screenshots-and-videos message in the vault cutscenes the elders have not shiny clothes. esp forest. in the forest cutscene eg u can see shiny diamond patterns on her clothes

are these elders bowing just memory imprints?

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or the diamond embellishment on their clothes is temporary

inner comet
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Wdym?

sly kestrel
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I’m confused

sinful anvil
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look at their clothes. they’re different from the cutscenes after they accepted skids’ light

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eg. in forest, she takes the light and in the next shot you can see shiny patterns on her clothes. but in this vault cutscene it switches back to just white & blue clothes ie before taking skid’s light

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i couldve grabbed more ss but that takes time

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i mean in the vault cutscene, all elders’ clothes (excl vault) are the same as in previous cutscenes before skids give them light

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because these clothes look v different after we give them light. the ā€œafterā€ clothes arent shown in vault cutscene

inner comet
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Their clothes change colour because they have no light. Its been years since they saw any light and its led to them getting extinguished (kinda like how when were out of energy were just all black)
Elders like the forest and isle elders used that light to light themselves up. Vault elder didnt use that light on herself, instead she just let you put it in some power diamond.

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Valley elders didnt use that light on themselves too ( from what i can remember,i could be wrong)

short owl
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Yeah the valley elders never even touched it XD

inner comet
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Also abt them going back to normal in the vault cutscene: they dont seem like their made completley of light (skids are basically the embodiment of light lol) so id assume they'd have to be in places with light to stay in that lit up form. Though it doesnt seem like it affects them if they have none :/
Plus the amount light we gave them is incredibly small so it was probably temporary.

short owl
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They may have also turned off their glow after we left, since they recieved so little and had no way to get more

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I still feel really bad for Lamed though... We get up there and have so little to offer them

inner comet
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She looked sad in the cutscenepCry

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They are all lit up when you call upon them in orbit though. Maybe its because orbit is a part of megan and shes basically lights itself

hushed steeple
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i feel like the cutscene of vault is a pre-recorded message for us, the history of the civilization, their past and tragedies summarized with sigils and images, the connections to the constellations and their symbolism. sort of like a golden record if you will

normal berry
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i just wanna comment how pretty the elders hair is when it glows

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Ye it might be a pre recorded message

inner comet
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The hair glows??- i thought it was only the outfitSkyShrug

normal berry
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in orbit their hair seems to glow

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its stunning pWow

short owl
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They also seem to not be all there :(

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Like nothing is fully there in Orbit

normal berry
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do elaborate

short owl
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So do we but...

hushed steeple
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I think the Elders operate like a lot of older pagan gods; they’re never entirely in one place, but you can contact them through an area that has a large ā€˜imprint’ of them (ie : temples for Greek and Roman, clearings for Celtic, et cetera)

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So part of them is in Orbit, and part of them is in their temple, and part is wherever the majority of them is (since we kinda teleport somewhere else for the cutscenes)

short owl
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pThink makes sense. That would fit the description of "outside time and space". And it could explain why their connection to Orbit is weak until we help their spirits - spirits are probably the one to provide that connection for us to use

inner comet
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Well the elders seem like their made of,,,stone?? So maybe thats why they dont fully glow bc they cant absorb alot of lightpThink

hushed steeple
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Actually!!! Science fact here!!!! Earth is REALLY REALLY good at absorbing light and heat. What it’s not good at is retaining it!

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And that would make sense with them losing our light so quickly SkyLOL

short owl
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And fit a lot of darkstone contraptions

inner comet
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Idk how light can affect them either. It seems like it only gives them a bit of strength and a shiny outfit but nothing more

hushed steeple
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It helps Daleth and Tsadi a lot though

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Daleth can barely walk until you give them your light, and Tsadi falls over entirely before your Skid goes to help them

inner comet
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True,, daleth is pretty old so i get him needing the light in order to survive

normal berry
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perhaps their disconnection to orbit/the light weakens them

short owl
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If they are stone though, I def like the implication that the elders, as stars, were given stone bodies. Likely this was by the ancestors, who lacked the ability to return the stars on their own

inner comet
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They seem blocky n stuff so thats why i think there bodies are made of stone

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Same way skids are made of clay

normal berry
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perhaps the king's exposure to corruption sped up this process, and eventually his presence was destroyed

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imo both us and the elders have tangible manifestations

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not necessarily "bodies"

hushed steeple
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That’s fair, especially since whenever we die our bodies are always fully repaired

inner comet
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Yeah, kinda like were givin a body to posses

normal berry
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Also, tagia, is that pfp you have a picrew? pWow

inner comet
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But its not really ours

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Mhm!! I can send u a link to it :)

normal berry
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yes pls!!

inner comet
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Anywaysss back to the lore

normal berry
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thank youu

hushed steeple
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In early early beta there were some shell-ish Skids on Isle beach, and you walked around as one until you were given your light. That’s kind of why I like the theory that Skids are made from Aleph’s body, but not their light or soul

inner comet
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Our bodies arent from alef, the stars you collect are

normal berry
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To best explain my theory is to compare it to gems from su, as much as i don't enjoy that its the most accurate comparison. basically we are a projection of our soul/mind if you will. however it has mass so we can interact with the world

hushed steeple
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May I just say I love reading everyone’s different theories so much, this is why I’m addicted to lore pCry

inner comet
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From what i see it: megan gives you a body, but your pretty much lifeless. The WG you collect gives you life

normal berry
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I love it toopWow

inner comet
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Aw thanks!! Im not that confident with my theories too sooo

normal berry
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It would be boring if everyone's opinion was the same

short owl
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Wg?

normal berry
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actually tagia, your theory lines up quite well with why alef cannot be saved

inner comet
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Wg =Winged light

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Im lazy lmao

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Actually oml it should be WL

short owl
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Also this opens back up the door to the war in wasteland Eden being about sending stars home vs a very bad idea

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(The later was true, sadly, but the ancestors would have wanted so badly to help their star friends)

inner comet
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WL is supposed to be the prince's (or the king,its up to u lmao) memories scatterd all over the realms as his last hope to save the kingdoms

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Although prince isnt really in the game, he looks alot like skids so maybe the wl are his memories and not the kings

normal berry
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tbh i use prince/king interchangeably

inner comet
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Wait maybe its the same person but with diffrent bodiespEyes pEyes

normal berry
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however I use "prince" for pre crowned prince and "king" for post crowned prince

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in one concept the king was basically prince's mech suit

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you can see a little shape of the prince in the kings "head"

inner comet
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Both have a star as their head right?

normal berry
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imo the prince has a star mask, but that could very well be his head idk

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my prince re design has emo hair lol

bright relic
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Is there some sort of dictionary for this channel? XD there's so many names and stuff thrown in that I don't understand at all

normal berry
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we got the lore moth document that explains the basics

bright relic
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Where can I find that?

normal berry
inner comet
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Go to the pinned messages too

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If you wanna hear some other good theories too

hushed steeple
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And don’t be afraid to ask questions if you’re confused, Kam

bright relic
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Thank you so much! pAww

inner comet
lofty hill
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Hello

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Who has interesting theories about the fall of wasteland pEyes

short owl
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Well, we believe it was over something really important

lofty hill
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What would it be

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Protecting the prince? šŸ‘€

short owl
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I have multiple theories, but I would need some anchors to give you a single naritive

lofty hill
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Hmmmm

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What anchors

short owl
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I need to know what theoretical timeline we are in cause like... My theories are all over the place.

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Is Megan considered a problem or not in this timeline? Is Megan capable of mind control? New one: are the elders light stored in stone to try to help them when ancestors can't help them the right way (cause they are planet bound)?

normal berry
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Imo forest was used for mining light to manufacture power diamond cores, golden wasteland was used to press on the darkstone shell, hence the pollution

thin dirge
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With the King, I kinda see the King being the Prince before the fall of the stars, and only became King when they became the ruler of Civilisation

hushed steeple
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I have this theory that when "darkness" (the fall of the Elders and spirits' civilization) came Wasteland was the last stand before Vault. Vault is important for 2 reasons: it's the place where knowledge and records of the spirit civilisation resides, where the wise lived and dedicated their lives to erudition, a literal vault of knowledge (no pun intended), wisdom and culture so it has a symbolic meaning attached to it besides its "library" function; also because darkness could find its way to Eden which, according to my theory, is on top of Vault (Vault being inside the huge mountain we see along our journey, while Eden being the castle and a little bit of surrounding area-what we call Eye of Eden before entering Storm).

signal cave
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One thing that’s always bothered me is the fact that not a lot of vault is visibly damaged, compared to both wasteland and Eden. Where could vault be located in such a way that its supposed surrounding realms are all damaged but not vault itself? Or rather, what sort of enemy would have Eden as its priority and not care for vault at all, thus ignoring it?

sinful anvil
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im starting to think vault is like white palace
esp the bit when u go back to starting point after uncovering something crucial

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blue palace

boreal nebula
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I think the Vault is destroyed... What we see is the basement of that intaxt (mostly, there are crabs down there too)

thin dirge
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Some places eroded with time too

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Like the Archives

boreal nebula
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It's floors above are mostly lighted by the "light of the past" and are enriched by some kind of giant memory lantern mechanism which get us closer to Lamed (its Elder)

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We see too spirit/cosmic mantas

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And the place where we met Lamed is infact, being destroyed by the storm... (As we can see later in the Eyeof Eden before seeing the Castle floating in stratosphere)

hushed steeple
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Good point, but Vault is pretty damaged. On the first floor we see the 2nd floor platforms half-buried in the sand. The archives are also a good example as we see broken walls and dark crabs. Besides, a baby spirit manta died, in Vault we learn the "pray" emote next to a tombstone and we also have the assembly of Elders at the end with Vault elder being the saddest of them (which means that she is aware of what happened and still happens).

boreal nebula
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After we finish reliving Vault we ended up in another section of the Vault. Semi destroyed ... With the power diamond of the elevator back to its original destroyed shape... IMHO we were living a dreamlike Vault (after all it was originally called Night)

hushed steeple
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After we finish reliving Vault we ended up in another section of the Vault. Semi destroyed ... With the power diamond of the elevator back to its original destroyed shape... IMHO we were living a dreamlike Vault (after all it was originally called Night)
@boreal nebula
Exactly pWow

boreal nebula
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I like to think she is sad for all the deaths and destructions that surround her realm (outside the defences put up by Tsadi, WL Elder) but since her realm duty came first she had to keep her stance there, to safeguard the Knowledge and CultureS from getting lost as all the rest

sinful anvil
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i feel like she would, given she understands and knows the most

spiral rampart
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. . . . . . .

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Okay could someone give me a basic run-down on the lore please?

short owl
kind bobcat
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ah yes.

faint warren
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Once upon a time, there were elders and a King, then everything got destroyed, the end(jk)

kind bobcat
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Well, you're not wrong.

hushed steeple
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No one knows anything for certain, that’s important to keep in mind

faint warren
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yeah

hushed steeple
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Except for what the devs have revealed

faint warren
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which is little

hushed steeple
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Yes. I like to think that when we come to meet her we have this power diamond. She looks at it not only understanding that these things are the key element that brought the fall of their civilisation, but also explaining it to us. The thingy floats upwards, foreshadowing the Eden diamond.

boreal nebula
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Maybe she could... But I'm more lean on "she couldn't". Her skills were about knowledge, she was a bookworm... And wouldn't have much ground/strength to withstand the effort

faint warren
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(I'm just here eating these lore theories like šŸæ)

boreal nebula
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Hope I made myself clear. It's late for me and Morpheus & Lamed summon me to sleep SkyLOL

spiral rampart
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I'm not here to be a Lore Moff I just wanna know the basic run-down on what the lore is. That's it, that's all.

boreal nebula
frail hearth
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(I'm just here eating these lore theories like šŸæ)
same

hushed steeple
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Goodnight! TGCBlueHeart

faint warren
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Night tebkanlo!

hushed steeple
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Nighty night! stickerSleep @boreal nebula

faint warren
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And oof, the lore is hard to explain, I don't know everything but I'll try

inner comet
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Oof whats the topic abt?

fossil oxide
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yeah

frail hearth
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I'm not here to be a Lore Moff I just wanna know the basic run-down on what the lore is. That's it, that's all.
you can find some canon lore in the pins, the rest are all theories

lethal stump
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other than that we know ✨nothing✨

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cause the lore is up to you !

faint warren
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So the stars that fell in the begginging were the elders, and they aparently started a kingdom in the clouds with the cloud people, they harnessed the energy of the light and made it into power diamonds to make technologycal advances (flying boats and gates and other stuff)
The King was the King
But then something happened, everything got corrupted, and the civilization fell

But yeah, the lore is pretty much up to anyone, but I think these are the basics I could be wrong about this

lethal stump
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the kingdom likely existed for thousands of years as per the chinese intro

faint warren
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Oh yeah

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I forgot about that sorry

lethal stump
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i wonder if i could ask Hage to include the eng, chi, and japanese intros in the canon lore doc

hushed steeple
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And we know that the power diamonds were related to the Elders’ downfall, but not how or why

lethal stump
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i haven’t seen them online in a while stickerGloomy

sinful anvil
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ya i thought the elders are stars that fell too

faint warren
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((christ, we need a mossbag in this community))

hushed steeple
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And our mission is to save what we can of the kingdom (spirits' memories and bring back light to the fallen)

spiral rampart
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ya i thought the elders are stars that fell too
Confirmed by canon to be true

sinful anvil
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on one hand we need a mossbag but on the other i want lore to b vague tho

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(coming from someone who doesnt know enough about religion and history (and a bit archaeology to dig through what happened) to speculate stories)

hushed steeple
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I want a slow reveal of canon lore and we just keep adjusting our theories and headcanons until everything TGC knows is out there in the wild

inner comet
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I think the reason the kingdom failed is bc they ran away from their problems instead of facing them, and yknow light cannot exist withought darkness so it explains why they failed so badSkyShrug

lethal stump
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And our mission is to save what we can of the kingdom (spirits' memories and bring back light to the fallen)
not necessarily save the kingdom. Just « bring our lost stars home » and « give light to the fallen »

sinful anvil
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i like applemeat’s theory that king is a comet

faint warren
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But which are the lost stars? I thought the winged light weren't stars anymore

sinful anvil
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damn i learned astronomy

short owl
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Brick, if you request edit on a document, it should send Hage an email with any information you put in the request.

hushed steeple
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Well, that's our way of saving (parts of ) it, that's why I said "what we can" > not necessarily save the kingdom. Just « bring our lost stars home » and « give light to the fallen »
@lethal stump

lethal stump
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But which are the lost stars? I thought the winged light weren't stars anymore
the stars are the elders

sinful anvil
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the elders are locked out of spacetime tho.
if megan the one who locked them out...

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crackpot theory that megan wants elders home but skykids r actually delivery bois for elders to send a letter saying ā€œno thank youā€

inner comet
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Yo what was the kings purpose tho?

lethal stump
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Cause Problems On Purpose

edgy sequoia
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wahaha I'm back from the dead

also good morning peeps

inner comet
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All i know is that hes a king and that he got corrupted SkyFaint

sinful anvil
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anyway why are the stars radiating from a person’s head at the start?

faint warren
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maybe the lost stars that we have to bring back home are the fallen? in Orbit, we see the statues we saved go up in the sky

hushed steeple
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Yo what was the kings purpose tho?
@inner comet
In my opinion he was the Eden elder, the ruler of the Sky kingdom. Just my theory btw

sinful anvil
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oh yeah! before u collect acs, they fly up to the sky and becomes stars

inner comet
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Hm true

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But i was talking abt what he does n stuff
Unlike the other elders we dont know that much abt him

faint warren
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We know that we can't save the Eden elder, I think

inner comet
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Its like hes just therepEyes

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Isnt he already dead?

lethal stump
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we don’t know

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he is in game
just not the way the other elders are

faint warren
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We do see a lot of King statues and symbols and shapes throughout the realms

lethal stump
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king propaganda !

faint warren
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you are not immune to propaganda

static spoke
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I am

faint warren
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Heyo

sinful anvil
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what if the king doesnt exist and is just a propoganda

faint warren
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I mean hello Oliver!

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the King is a lie made up by the government-

hushed steeple
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Well, I like to think that he was the one responsible for the ultimate fall of the kingdom. The spirits toyed around with the power diamonds and may have contributed to the decline of the realms, but the final push was his. Like he wanted to take the whole civilisation to the next level by creating a huge ultra-mega-hyper power diamond (don't know if that may be the true reason though. He may have gotten greedy and wanted to prove himself by establishing his Eden even further as the greatest realm of them all, the crown jewel of Sky realms).

static spoke
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The king is a fairytale made up by Skids

faint warren
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I like your theory crystalchris

static spoke
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Me too

faint warren
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Maybe the King was the one who encouraged the spirits to toy around with the power of the diamonds

hushed steeple
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I like your theory crystalchris
@faint warren
Me too
@static spoke
Thank you! SkyBow

faint warren
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Or maybe the King himself toyed with the diamonds and used that those to bring power to the civilization

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and then went too far

signal cave
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Is the moff doc in the pinned messages?

lethal stump
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no

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do you need it ?

signal cave
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Yes pls

lethal stump
signal cave
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Thanks! stickerHeart

lethal stump
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I made a discovery today in regards to the king
We see 2 kinds of king in game. One with the 8 pointed star head (propaganda around the game), and one with the 3 pronged crown (vault mural).
The 3 pronged crown is from a rather old design of the king, and it makes me wonder...are there two different entities here, or is it one entity over time ? Is one of these the Prince, one of them the King ? Is it something else ? I’d love to hear your guys’ thoughts on this discrepancy

These are the possibilities so far:

  • 8 pointed star is the Prince, 3 pronged crown is the King
  • 3 pronged crown is the Prince, 8 pointed star is the King
short owl
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Maybe it's face vs hair

hushed steeple
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we only see the crown variant once in-game, right?

short owl
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8 pointed star is the face, prominant in ancestoral matters. 3 prong crown is the hair, prominant in celestial matters

lethal stump
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that’s quite the hair gel

short owl
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moff hair is from Aleph's rebelios phase where he tried to have an identity that wasn't The Ruler

hushed steeple
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8 pointed star is the face, prominant in ancestoral matters. 3 prong crown is the hair, prominant in celestial matters
@short owl
Hmmm, interesting. I'd like to know more

short owl
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It's really just guesses

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but it occurs to me that a crown is more a hat than anything else, and the 8 pointed shape is shown to be the head in the concepts

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... that is the extent of my logic

winter harness
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Where can u find concept art of the king?

lethal stump
kind bobcat
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Tom zhao's website.

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That too.

winter harness
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Oo thank u!

hushed steeple
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but we see absolutely no remnant of the kings face, i dont think the hair/hat can cover to the side and bottom of the kings face

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face*

cold steppe
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thanks Brick

lethal stump
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no problem

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im working on an in-game version currently

cold steppe
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oooo

kind bobcat
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you'll have to screenshot everything

winter harness
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šŸ˜„

lethal stump
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Making this is what made me realize the discrepancy of the 8 pointed star and the 3 pronged crown

edgy sequoia
hushed steeple
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i changed my mind after seeing the concept art compiled by bricky

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does the king's castle have the 8 pointed star?

lethal stump
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the castle ? in which depiction ?

hushed steeple
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the eden constellation, the last scene from the vault cutscene

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the image does show an eight pointed star but i just wonder does any buildings in-game feature this

lethal stump
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8 towers

winter harness
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I think wasteland temple has it

lethal stump
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Wasteland temple has king propaganda on it, yes

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wait, maybe 9 towers

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Ill have to check

hushed steeple
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but does it specifically have a 8 pointed star on top of the buildings?

winter harness
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It’s nine

lethal stump
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Okay, counting the bit in the middle, theres 9 towers

hushed steeple
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other than the statues

lethal stump
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aside from the statues, no

hushed steeple
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ok, then this is really interesting

tired matrix
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sorry to interrupt, but I have a question about the capes,,

lethal stump
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go on

tired matrix
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so can all sky people fly??? some have capes and some don't so I'm curious

lethal stump
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nope, ancestors cannot fly

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only skids

short owl
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Yes the middle is similar to a second spine. No, we have not gotten another box from cherry! The smol, yes I am sad about that.

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I am treating this ts as evedence that our cape has independant movement

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There is no way this thing can be following our arms through all these poses

tired matrix
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thanks Bricky!!!

hushed steeple
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Don't our arms go somewhere in the cape?

earnest vapor
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Maybe it’s like a poncho

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Is that how u spell it? Idk

lethal stump
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it’s not a poncho, the front is open

earnest vapor
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Oh yea šŸ¤”

lethal stump
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ponchos have to be pulled over the head to wear

earnest vapor
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I think it might be sewed to our shirt

hushed steeple
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the eight towers and the beams that intersect through them seems interesting, especially given we see the only instance of four-pointed star figure on top of a building, and we see the familiar stance of the ancestors on the bottom, meditating or sitting. it almost feels like the king or the figure in the mural has been sealed by the eight towers, the recurrence of eight, the star symbolism and that the peak of the star is the source of the beam seems too good to be coincidental.

earnest vapor
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Or our hands since it moves with them

hushed steeple
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my image didnt get the eight towers, nooo

lethal stump
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the cape may not be a physical object
it’s been commonly put forward that it’s made of light

hushed steeple
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we dont lose the cape when our light is drained though

lethal stump
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we do in Eden

hushed steeple
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no i dont mean when we die

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unless the cape is made of more light than the cosmetics items? but the cape itself is a cosmetics item??

wind arch
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Can we glide if we lose all our energy ?

hushed steeple
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I wonder what does the sphere symbolize

lethal stump
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Could be the eden diamond

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in old concepts, there was something called « The Flame » which looked like a ball in drawings

hushed steeple
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Is it pinned? Can I find these images?

earnest vapor
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The cape doesn’t have a shadow, so it isn’t made with earthly materials

lethal stump
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You can find all concepts in the pins

fossil oxide
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ok

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guys I have a huge theory

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here it goes

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there is a gap between the prairie, isle, forest and wasteland, valley, vault

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the latter probably were king loyalists

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the former were probably the sun shield guys...

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the rebels

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wasteland was probably a military base even before the war

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b/c there r forts there

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and forts take a loooooong time to build

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and there r guardian statues

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we know the valley wasteland and vault were loyalists because they have pro king propaganda

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and use extensive amounts of diamonds

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so my theory about the war is that the rebels steamrolled valley because there were no military installations there

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the diamonds made krill to defent key entry points to wasteland

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so isle converted trade ships

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into warships

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and put firework staff guys on the warships

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we know fire work staffs r weapons

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because that's the only non defensive thing the guys in shipwreck have

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more krill were then placed in higher altitudes by the loyalists to stop the warships

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that attacked the forts of wasteland from above

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in battlefield

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we see trenches

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those were probably used to make defilades

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from krill and fireworks

short owl
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Hey Pyre

fossil oxide
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spear phalanxes were used and the X shaped barricades suggest that there was a siege

short owl
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you can shift enter to put things in the same message

fossil oxide
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oh yeah

short owl
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or start with ``` and then erase those when you're done

fossil oxide
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this makes the text block larger

hushed steeple
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yeah please do, i usually archive theories and on mobile i have to copy everyline

short owl
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Wait you have an archive

hushed steeple
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well some of them

fossil oxide
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so anyways the swordsmen were shock troops that jumped into the trenches

hushed steeple
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not complete at all

fossil oxide
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because that's what theyre good for

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fighting in small spaces

short owl
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is it publically accessable?

fossil oxide
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all soldiers seem to get a white cape

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chain mail-y things on their heads

lethal stump
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Pyre, could you write this all in one message please ?

fossil oxide
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and a spear or sword

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ohhh.

hushed steeple
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not yet, that is the project i have been working on, eventually will get turned into a site if i get a server running

lethal stump
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If not in discord, then use a separate application to write then copy-paste to here

hushed steeple
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beware of character limits though, but i don't think it would apply in this case

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right now it is literally messages copied to a server of mine

unique dagger
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what are the latters?

hushed steeple
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server i mean discord server

lethal stump
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Latters ?

unique dagger
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Pyre said something about latters being king loyalists

hushed steeple
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how long do you think it will take to scroll back and read every message to the beginning of this channel?

lethal stump
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the latter, that means the first thing listed

hushed steeple
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if someone do it, it will be me

lethal stump
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Quite a while

hushed steeple
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well i allocate 6 hours for it

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i hope it does not take more than that

lethal stump
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m8 this channel was made in 2019

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it’ll take you days

short owl
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... way too long probably

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months

lethal stump
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if not weeks or months

hushed steeple
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i will do it

unique dagger
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the latter, that means the first thing listed
@lethal stump I still don’t get it ;0

lethal stump
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no need to ping

unique dagger
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sorry

fossil oxide
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there is a gap between the prairie, isle, forest and wasteland, valley, vault
the latter probably were king loyalists the former were probably the sun shield guys... the rebels wasteland was probably a military base even before the war b/c there r forts there and forts take a loooooong time to build and there r guardian statues we know the valley wasteland and vault were loyalists because they have pro king propaganda and they use extensive amounts of diamonds so my theory about the war is that the rebels steamrolled valley because there were no military installations there the loyalists made krill to defent key entry points to wasteland so isle converted trade ships into warships and put firework staff guys on the warships we know fire work staffs r weapons because that's the only non defensive thing the guys in shipwreck have more krill were then placed in higher altitudes by the loyalists to stop the warships that attacked the forts of wasteland from above
In battlefield we see trenches those were probably used to make defilades from krill and fireworks... spear phalanxes were used and the X shaped barricades suggest that there was a siege
the swordsmen were shock troops that jumped into the trenches because that's what theyre good for fighting in small spaces

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all soldiers seem to get a white cape

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and chain mail-y things on their heads

lethal stump
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So if i said,
« do you want muffins or bagels »
and someone replied « i’ll take the latterĀ Ā» that means they want bagels

hushed steeple
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i am more concerned about new messages popping up where i scroll back

fossil oxide
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ok guys there it is

hushed steeple
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i should make a checkpoint on the latest message i started with

fossil oxide
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pls attack any part of it so we can improve it

lethal stump
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why do you think soldiers get white capes ?

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the only white cape we see is in vault

fossil oxide
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probably symbolizes purity

lethal stump
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but we have no observable evidence that soldiers wear white capes

fossil oxide
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remember vault valley and wasteland are allied

lethal stump
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the one soldier we see who’s caped has a green cape

fossil oxide
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nnot those capes

lethal stump
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do you mean a cape like Tsadi’s ?

hushed steeple
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Joy, i think the latter here refers to the collection of nouns after the and composition

short owl
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I bet Tsadi's wasn't always white

hushed steeple
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the former is then the collection prior to the and composition

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latter refers to wasteland, valley. vault in this context, former refers to prairies, isle, forest

unique dagger
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ooh ok

edgy sequoia
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how long do you think it will take to scroll back and read every message to the beginning of this channel?
@hushed steeple you can read the pins to jump to the very first message of the channel

lethal stump
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The first discussion had here was about forest rain

fossil oxide
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do you mean a cape like Tsadi’s ?
@lethal stump yup

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that one

lethal stump
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we still don’t see soldiers wearing capes like that though

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only tsadi

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imo it implies his very high rank over the soldiers

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since only he has a cape like that

fossil oxide
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ima quickly go to fandom and bring some pic

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brb

hushed steeple
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who is Pyre?SkyTada

unique dagger
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we talking about soldiers from before and during the ā€œwarā€?

fossil oxide
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yup

hushed steeple
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that misses the point though, the point is to retrieve every publicly posted theory and log them into a database

fossil oxide
hushed steeple
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pyre is a legendary theorizer

fossil oxide
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the white semi capes

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on every soldier

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bricky

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there is a gap between the prairie, isle, forest and wasteland, valley, vault
the latter probably were king loyalists the former were probably the sun shield guys... the rebels wasteland was probably a military base even before the war b/c there r forts there and forts take a loooooong time to build and there r guardian statues we know the valley wasteland and vault were loyalists because they use extensive amounts of diamonds so my theory about the war is that the rebels steamrolled valley because there were no military installations there the loyalists made krill to defent key entry points to wasteland so isle converted trade ships into warships and put firework staff guys on the warships we know fire work staffs r weapons because that's the only non defensive thing the guys in shipwreck have more krill were then placed in higher altitudes by the loyalists to stop the warships that attacked the forts of wasteland from above
In battlefield we see trenches those were probably used to make defilades from krill and fireworks... spear phalanxes were used and the X shaped barricades suggest that there was a siege
the swordsmen were shock troops that jumped into the trenches because that's what theyre good for fighting in small spaces

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lets get back to this

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anything wrong with this theory?

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pyre is a legendary theorizer
@hushed steeple oh and thank u lambdaw

lethal stump
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Isle has propaganda in it as well, would that not make it loyalist as well ?

fossil oxide
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hmm

hushed steeple
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where in vault is there king propaganda?

fossil oxide
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yeah but they diamonds aren't a big part of their lives....

lethal stump
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I did a propaganda run, only Valley, Vault, and Eden do not have propaganda

fossil oxide
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ima erase the propaganda thing

hushed steeple
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how do you do a propaganda run?

fossil oxide
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study the murals

lethal stump
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you run through the game finding all the propaganda you can

fossil oxide
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but anyways u think army gets green

hushed steeple
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sounds like i found my new favorite passtime

fossil oxide
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spies get black

topaz girder
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in valley elder oob the top of it looks like king head

unique dagger
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same lambdaw

fossil oxide
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and navy gets nothing?

lethal stump
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in regards to capes, i personally don’t believe they are meant to represent profession

topaz girder
fossil oxide
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oooh

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the green cape is probably

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for camoflage

lethal stump
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in a headcanon of mine, capes are used by ancestors who cling to old traditions of before the elders came

fossil oxide
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an black too

lethal stump
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referred to as « natives »

fossil oxide
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hmmmmm

signal cave
fossil oxide
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so there is a third species

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the native skyans

lethal stump
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what ? no, natives are the same species as ancestors

fossil oxide
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but that means megan made them too

lethal stump
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they just believe differently

fossil oxide
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hmmmmm

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so the natives were made on the ground?

lethal stump
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just like how first nations and, say, russians are the same species

fossil oxide
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like the planet

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not orbit?

lethal stump
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all the ancestors were

fossil oxide
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ohhhhhhh the Anima medius

unique dagger
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By ancestors you mean the elders? Sorry I’m kind of new to the game

hushed steeple
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ancestors are ancestor spirits

fossil oxide
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this is where scientific names come in useful

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u can say spirits

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sprits mean theyre dead

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Anima medius

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means when they were alive

hushed steeple
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spirits does not mean that necessarily though

fossil oxide
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spirits does not mean that necessarily though
@hushed steeple ?

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so they have a live body sleeping somewhere else?

hushed steeple
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i never knew there were scientific names

fossil oxide
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we made them like a few days ago

cold steppe
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People here created scientific names

fossil oxide
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took up a few days

cold steppe
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They’re not official

fossil oxide
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yeah

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ohhhhhhh

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that reminds me

lethal stump
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in my theory, ancestors were made by megan and put onto the world of sky
they lived without the elders for a while, having their own cultures, civilizations, etc.,
then the elders came, and with them brought lots of social reforms. the way the elders ran things compared to the ancestors meant that many cultures and practices died out, either by force or simply naturally
natives refers to ancestors who have held onto old culture and practices and who’s lineage has remained in their realm since before the elders
this is all my headcanon, mind you. just something i made up to explain capes

edgy sequoia
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pygmy mantas are best mantas you can't change my mind

fossil oxide
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yup

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elders r the coolest though

signal cave
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What are capes made of? You don’t see their shadow

edgy sequoia
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yes

hushed steeple
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no, spirits could simply refer to beings

cold steppe
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TGC had trouble rendering shadows for capes so they cut them

fossil oxide
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there r small purple jellyfish in the ice rink guys

lethal stump
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a common theory is that capes are made of light
however the lack of shadow is because of game restraints

fossil oxide
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yes yes

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anyways

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there r small purple jellyfish in the ice rink guys

hushed steeple
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i dont know how to explain it but in english spirits is misleading

fossil oxide
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we need to name them

cold steppe
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Why is spirits misleading?

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They’re dead

fossil oxide
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yup

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that's the point

edgy sequoia
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they lead to your death

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jkjk

fossil oxide
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guuuuuuuuuuuuys

edgy sequoia
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they only accompany you going to Orbit

fossil oxide
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there r small purple jellyfish in the ice rink

edgy sequoia
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lemme see

fossil oxide
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we need to name them

cold steppe
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Purple?

hushed steeple
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it has heavy connotations for something non-physical, but that is not all that it can mean

edgy sequoia
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I didn't notice they were purple

fossil oxide
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different from the small yellow ones

cold steppe
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Thought they were yellow

fossil oxide
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no

edgy sequoia
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I wanna seee

cold steppe
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I’ll have to check next time I’m there

signal cave
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Oh some people might associate spirit with soul and in that case it can sorta be misleading

edgy sequoia
cold steppe
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Do you have a picture?

fossil oxide
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the purple ones r even smaller

hushed steeple
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there is honestly no words i can use in english to explain it

fossil oxide
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I cant take a pic right now

cold steppe
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Sad

fossil oxide
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expedition team pls

hushed steeple
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i need help from palechild

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or johnny

fossil oxide
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some one could go....

hushed steeple
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i volunteer

fossil oxide
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pls check it out

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thx

hushed steeple
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@sinful anvil i need your help explaining the word spirit

fossil oxide
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spirit is even more misleading in korean

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doubles as soul

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I think

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pls guys someone check out the small purple jellyfish in the ice rink

hushed steeple
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i didnt find any

unique dagger
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where’s the ice rink? I’m valley?

topaz girder
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huh

hushed steeple
fossil oxide
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see

topaz girder
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might just be a bug pyre

fossil oxide
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the one in from is yellow

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all the others r kinda different

topaz girder
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bruh

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lemme

fossil oxide
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and the yellow jellyfish is bigger

hushed steeple
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i didnt find any purple glow

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where?

fossil oxide
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ok then not purple

signal cave
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They glow yellow but are sorta purple

fossil oxide
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there r some non glowy jellyfish in ice rink

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not those

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oh wait those

hushed steeple
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the medium sized ones?

fossil oxide
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they r smaller than the Chrysaora coruscent

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Chrysaora coruscent> (

hushed steeple
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this?

fossil oxide
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no...these r more like > c

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the really small ones in clusters

unique dagger
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Those?

fossil oxide
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yup

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those

topaz girder
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that isnt purple

unique dagger
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They look blue for me :0

fossil oxide
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I know sorry

signal cave
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They’re purpley bluey white

fossil oxide
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yup

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now lets make a name

lethal stump
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they look like normal jellies to me

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just
smaller

topaz girder
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yeah

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probably jellyfish children

lethal stump
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idk why that would warrant a whole new name

fossil oxide
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but they don't glow like the Chrysaora coruscent

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go near them

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they do glow

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but not like the Chrysaora coruscent

topaz girder
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they are probably still small , thats why they dont glow much

fossil oxide
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aw...….

lethal stump
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they look like they’re just juvenile versions of the other jellies

topaz girder
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yep exactly

fossil oxide
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ok then

signal cave
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Wait... ahahah @topaz girder I just realized you’re broke whale fangirl SkyLOL

topaz girder
hushed steeple
unique dagger
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So have any of u theorized on the 7th elder?
I mean, idk if there’s a 7th, I only got the idea because at the beginning of the game, 7 stars fall and at the end of vault we are also shown a 7th constellation

lethal stump
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thƩ 7th elder is likely the eden elder, the Prince/King

signal cave
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Yes

hushed steeple
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hi

unique dagger
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Yeah that’s what I thought too, but we never get to see them, not even at the end? Did something happened to the elder?

lethal stump
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The Eden elder isn’t around to be saved anymore

edgy sequoia
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Elder wants us to mind our own business

unique dagger
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Lmao

signal cave
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The Eden elder is supposedly still in the game and influencing it, just not appearing

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I think

edgy sequoia
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He can be seen thru murals and statues

unique dagger
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:0

edgy sequoia
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yep

signal cave
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Oh I think it’s back to normal now

edgy sequoia
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what happened?

unique dagger
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idk lol

signal cave
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Lol people were chatting on there, I feel like that’s pretty unusual for that channel

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The order was disturbed SkyCry SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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;the order of the jedi

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order 66

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and all the other orders

lethal stump
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please keep discussion about sky lore, thank you

hushed steeple
lethal stump
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please do not use this channel as an emoji dump

hushed steeple
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kriiiiiiill army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

signal cave
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What realm’s history/backstory is most canon right now?

lethal stump
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it’s all rather vague

hushed steeple
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pyre did it

short owl
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If your question is "what realm do we kknow the most about", then I'd have to say... hmm... Maybe wasteland?

hushed steeple
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he is my brother

fossil oxide
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?

hushed steeple
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šŸ‘€

fossil oxide
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pls

lethal stump
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Even if I did believe you, I wouldn’t care. This channel is not for emoji dumping

fossil oxide
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back to the topic

short owl
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We have reason to think we know why crabs are crabby, and what caused most of the destruction (a war). While we lack information about the krill and the fallen creatures, the final cutscene does suggest a hunt had occured, and we do know that the krill are hungry for light and willing to eat (living) ancestors

fossil oxide
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oh yeah

unique dagger
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:0

fossil oxide
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text block coming...

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there is a gap between the prairie, isle, forest and wasteland, valley, vault
the latter probably were king loyalists the former were probably the sun shield guys... the rebels wasteland was probably a military base even before the war b/c there r forts there and forts take a loooooong time to build and there r guardian statues we know the valley wasteland and vault were loyalists because they use extensive amounts of diamonds so my theory about the war is that the rebels steamrolled valley because there were no military installations there the loyalists made krill to defent key entry points to wasteland so isle converted trade ships into warships and put firework staff guys on the warships we know fire work staffs r weapons because that's the only non defensive thing the guys in shipwreck have more krill were then placed in higher altitudes by the loyalists to stop the warships that attacked the forts of wasteland from above
In battlefield we see trenches those were probably used to make defilades from krill and fireworks... spear phalanxes were used and the X shaped barricades suggest that there was a siege
the swordsmen were shock troops that jumped into the trenches because that's what theyre good for fighting in small spaces

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there we go

short owl
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Pyre, you don't need to post the same theory twice

fossil oxide
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that war prob the war

lethal stump
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for future reference, just link the original post rather than re-sending it

fossil oxide
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I thought there were new ppl…...

signal cave
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Wait how do we know that wasteland soldiers are best at fighting in small spaces?

fossil oxide
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no swordmen

lethal stump
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we don’t, it’s their theory

signal cave
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Is it just cause they lack any long range weapons?

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Ah ok

fossil oxide
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not all the wasteland soldiers

unique dagger
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maybe long range weapons were buried :0

short owl
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We also know that at least one of the major buildings is a factory, which leaves some hints about other nearby buildings. We also know it is near what looks like it was a body of water, and it appears to have several pipes just laying around, suggesting that they were dumping waste proucts from diamond production.

fossil oxide
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swordsmen in general

short owl
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This would naturally lead to environmmental isssues

unique dagger
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yeah

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šŸ¤”i have a question tho, srry if it sounds dumb and very off topic but

When we’re delivering the ā€œlightā€ or the ā€œflameā€ to the elders... the place, is it really in the physical world? Or idk spiritual realm

short owl
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There are still tons of questions like "what were they fighting over" and "what did the symbols stand for" that can only be answered in theory, but there's enough to go off of to at least understand the majority of the current wasteland

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Joy, it's "outside of space and time"

unique dagger
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:0 I knew it

lethal stump
short owl
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Some of us call it "time out". I don't remember which of us started it

lethal stump
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read this

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I think i started calling it timeout

short owl
edgy sequoia
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timeout because the elders acted like bad kiddos

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so king put them in permanent time out

signal cave
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What’s the lore surrounding megabird/megan?

lethal stump
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Imo, Megabird put them in timeout

unique dagger
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Dang must’ve been a cruel timeout cuz when we find them, they b lost hopeless and kind of broken

lethal stump
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the king was in no way an « adult » figure towards the elders

sinful anvil
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what is it like to b in timeout tho? driven mad by isolation?

lethal stump
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he’s just a spiteful child in a mech

edgy sequoia
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I was just kiddng lol

lethal stump
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read about prisoners in solitary confinement, that might give you an idea, Palechild

edgy sequoia
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plot twist

smiley is megabird

sinful anvil
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so basically isolation being a beast

unique dagger
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we are mega bird

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;00

signal cave
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šŸ‘€

edgy sequoia
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they talked about megabird sneezing or something

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and ironically they sneezed irl

gilded fossil
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SkyWave /hi guys any new theories ~~or am i in just when lore chat's about to be dedstickerGloomy ~~

edgy sequoia
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scroll up^^

sinful anvil
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i have a personal theory that we are just eden's ancestor spirits turned into skykids (assuming prince and king are rly scrapped)

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or the prince is an ancestor spirit

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im bad at theories so just wanna throw smth wild

lethal stump
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the king isn’t scrapped, he’s canon

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the prince is unknown

gilded fossil
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/wait so prince isn't cannon???

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/well at least megan's canon

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/uh? Several people?

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/wrong chat i believe?

swift helm
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Hm...okay

gilded fossil
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/anyways, pretty sure that's the fireworks staff

swift helm
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I think i just want to say something...but meh

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No it's a hammer

lethal stump
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the prince is not canon nor is he canon

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hes in lore limbo

gilded fossil
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/shrogiender's prince

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/how to spell scrhofiger

lethal stump
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schrodinger

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anyways, i made something

gilded fossil
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/nooooo bricky you crop out teth srsy???

lethal stump
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i didnt need all the elders in the image

steel aurora
gilded fossil
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/yea okay, how about making the arrows red so that it stands out?

lethal stump
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it would mess with the colour scheme :((

gilded fossil
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/or colored? Green or blue?

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/or bigger? The arrow's bit hard to notice imo

lethal stump
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hh okay fine

gilded fossil
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/what does hh mean

hushed steeple
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Honk Honk

lethal stump