#lore-discussion-spoilers

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high bison
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I had question
Are all the realms of sky part of one world or are they separate worlds?

tender dune
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He said full candle run, so i doubt the green light is the poop cuz during cr we dont pass by there

high bison
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Or are they all the same sort of place at different times?

hushed steeple
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Part of one world

edgy sequoia
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but which one

golden cave
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Actually it’s the same world but each portal make a shortcut for us

edgy sequoia
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there's a red planet shown in the credits

golden cave
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That planet just show us that we’ve flying toward the orbit where the Megabird should live

edgy sequoia
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hmm

golden cave
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Because we are reborn in space

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Maybe........

edgy sequoia
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nono not flying towards orbit

golden cave
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Not confirmed...

edgy sequoia
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like

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the literaly credits

high bison
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So like, you could walk from the Isle to the prairie and to the forest (assuming your Jesus enough to walk on clouds)?

edgy sequoia
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the camera was zooming out of orbit

golden cave
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Yeahh I mean like we’ve flying toward the space

edgy sequoia
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then the planet just go whoosh

tender dune
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Ah yeah u mean the planet on the top right

edgy sequoia
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wait

golden cave
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Outside from Earth

edgy sequoia
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so uh

hushed steeple
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There're many planets actually in credits.... Maybe other worlds (sky 2.0,sky 3.0,,..........)

golden cave
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Where we can see stars and planets

high bison
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And the whole world is connected?

golden cave
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Don’t know.......

tender dune
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I think its just showing us that we're basically zooming out of the orbit we're in to show megan in the end

golden cave
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Yeahh@high bison

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That planet just in the space where the Megan live

edgy sequoia
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crackpot theory:

Megabird's body is actually made out of tgc staff

tender dune
golden cave
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Heii I want to ask something......

lethal stump
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please do not try to dodge the chat censor, it’s there for a reason

edgy sequoia
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hh bad jkeyborad

lethal stump
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call it a crackpot theory

golden cave
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Does this kinda look like familiar and you know about it?

lethal stump
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I wrote that

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It’s a phonetic transcription of the ending song

golden cave
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I think that is the the story of sky

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Yeahhhhh

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I want to say that is the lyric for the song

lethal stump
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As far as I know, it is

golden cave
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But....do you understand it???

tender dune
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Nope

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xD

lethal stump
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No, no one knows what it says

golden cave
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Ouh.....

edgy sequoia
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I heard that the song was supposed to sound like a bit more of japanese

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in beta eden

tender dune
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(Also brikeh whats with the |uber?pEyes )

golden cave
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I thought you’ve translate it and know about it.....maybe it’s the storyteller song

edgy sequoia
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what if

tender dune
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Would be nice if someone knew the lyrics/translation hahah

edgy sequoia
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it might be the megabird singing it as a lullaby as she shepherds the light child back to home?

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I always thought of the song as a nice lullaby

golden cave
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Omg mmaaaybeehhh

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Yeah it’s a nice lullaby for us to come back home child and help me again GET THOSE LIGHTS!!!!

edgy sequoia
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hhh

golden cave
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IM DYIEEENNNGGG

edgy sequoia
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OH MY

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dfgbhsdfj

golden cave
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But please noo that is totally brutal and it’s crossed the goal for this game...

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But maybe ........

edgy sequoia
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mmm

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But please noo that is totally brutal and it’s crossed the goal for this game...
@golden cave what about the elders tho

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some say they murdered mantas for diamonds pEyes

gilded fossil
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/they mudered mantas for leather

edgy sequoia
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ah yes

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manta capes

gilded fossil
tender dune
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my manta grinder

edgy sequoia
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whoosh

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light juice

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also

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I'm actually glad someone wrote the lyrics for the song

gilded fossil
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/yea

edgy sequoia
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I actually want to try to sing it

gilded fossil
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/imagine the song stuck in your head tho

edgy sequoia
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but the only lines I know were " Niko noooo"

gilded fossil
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I actually want to try to sing it
@edgy sequoia /Oh please do stickerPlease

edgy sequoia
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"NIKO NO"

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/imagine the song stuck in your head tho
@gilded fossil it is lmao

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wait wait

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now I think about it

high bison
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Niko Niko Nii

edgy sequoia
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who's Niko

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Niko Niko Nii
@high bison niko niko niko niiii

gilded fossil
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/iss Niko an important part of the plot

edgy sequoia
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I'm starting to wonder if one of the tgc staff is a memer

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because'

gilded fossil
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/Niko is Megan's first Skid ever created

high bison
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Plot twist: Niko is King

edgy sequoia
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:0

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/Niko is Megan's first Skid ever created
@gilded fossil could be

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but I think they got corrupted in a way

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"noo"

gilded fossil
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/definitely not drunked theory or anything

edgy sequoia
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lmao

hushed steeple
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What did i miss?

high bison
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CRACKPOT THEORY:There’s this dark/corrupted sky kid named Niko and in a future season we have to fight it or something

edgy sequoia
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:0

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y e s

gilded fossil
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/yes

high bison
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We gotta break it’s Niko Niko Kneecaps

edgy sequoia
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I think he tried to meddle with darkness but when megan found out

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she was like

gilded fossil
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/since aurora sing Niko no at the begining

tender dune
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What did i miss?
@hushed steeple niko niko nii is what u missed xD

edgy sequoia
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"NIKO NO"

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@hushed steeple niko niko nii is what u missed xD
@tender dune lmao ye

boreal nebula
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citadel in particular has very strong updrafts, which is going to interfere with discerning what the actual gravitational force there is; if we assume that fast falling using emotes negates the effects of any updrafts, then that would probably imply all areas have the same level of gravity if the max fall speed is always the same
@orchid crypt @tribal pecan that's a good point, but you could force your fall with Return to HomeSpace button... (at least for those 5-7 seconds the fall will last before the white light and being warped to home) ... tapping that can even defies Vault's orange-floating force-field and let you freely fall into lower levels

gilded fossil
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that's a good point, but you could force your fall with Return to HomeSpace button... (at least for those 5-7 seconds the fall will last before the white light and being warped to home) ... tapping that can even defies Vault's orange-floating force-field and let you freely fall into lower levels
@boreal nebula /actually, I use that once to get a shiny boi i forgot at the bottom :vv

edgy sequoia
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ooh

golden cave
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Oufff scientific chats begin again

edgy sequoia
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yes

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hmm

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which language do you think the lullaby relates with?

golden cave
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It should be scientific lore discussion spoiler channel

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Ouh wait

high bison
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ANOTHER CRACKPOT THREORY: The sky kid and the cape they wear are two separate organisms living in symbiosis

golden cave
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Omg maybe.... like Maleficent and her wing!!

hushed steeple
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@high bison

I think thay are together as one

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They*

golden cave
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Hahahaha

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Yeah it just with us not separated things...I hope

hushed steeple
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Because the children require the cape to fly and without it they are wingless birds

tender dune
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I think its original language made by sky

edgy sequoia
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hmmmm

tender dune
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Like how in monster hunter the diva sings in wyverian

edgy sequoia
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ooh

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or like

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animal crossing

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or Splatoon pEyes

golden cave
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@edgy sequoia which language do you think the lullaby relates with?

I think it the niko niko mo....

Almost like come back...come back my children...or wake up....wake up my children...

high bison
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Speaking of capes... why do some of the ancestors were sky kid capes?

golden cave
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Wear?

hushed steeple
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They probably made it themselves

golden cave
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Maybe...

hushed steeple
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As superriors or perhaps fashion

high bison
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Yeah wear

hushed steeple
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Or protectionnpurposes like sneaking stance

golden cave
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I don’t think the flying race also is made for race before we summoned

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It just a fallen city

high bison
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But what does the cape symbolise? And why do only some ancestors have them but all sky kids have them?

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And use them to fly?

hushed steeple
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Thats a question, a big question

tender dune
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I think for them its like a shawl (since i remember the game inspires its architecture/stuff from mountainous regions) but to us its for flying (and cosmetics)

hushed steeple
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Or maybe they have no use of the scarf

golden cave
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Megan thinks it good for us to fly because if only we walk we can’t reach some place faster..

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Right?

edgy sequoia
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Speaking of capes... why do some of the ancestors were sky kid capes?
@high bison for the sake of cosmetics

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I'm just joking

hybrid oxide
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Easy answer: fashion
Capes are cool

golden cave
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Like our dream to fly to school faster if we are late....or you are tired and want to fly back home...

tender dune
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f e m u r

edgy sequoia
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@edgy sequoia which language do you think the lullaby relates with?

I think it the niko niko mo....

Almost like come back...come back my children...or wake up....wake up my children...
@golden cave hmmm how'd you know?

tender dune
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where is tibia

hushed steeple
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Femur breaking noise*

golden cave
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Just saying@edgy sequoia

edgy sequoia
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huh

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could be

golden cave
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Coz it’s seem like reminding me about kid

edgy sequoia
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but the last two words, though

tender dune
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ImsryicanthelpitSkyDontGo

edgy sequoia
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"So rha"

golden cave
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Niko niko it just make my head thinks it a child...

edgy sequoia
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could be, though

golden cave
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Rha...or Ra.....

I think ra is the name for the God of Sun

edgy sequoia
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"So sun"?

golden cave
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So Rha.....to the sun?

edgy sequoia
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hmmmmmm

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wait

tender dune
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Fly to the sun?

golden cave
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Comeback to the sun

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Maybe

tender dune
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Come back to the sun?

edgy sequoia
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HMMM

golden cave
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I’m easing this chat

high bison
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Maybe the cape symbolises a connection to the light?
Because all the light creatures we see can fly freely (birds, mantas, probably butterflies) while the dark creatures we see walk around (crabs) or at least hover not too far above the ground (krill)

edgy sequoia
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so uh

hushed steeple
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I agree

verbal iron
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What did I walk into

edgy sequoia
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the song mentioned "so rha" two times

high bison
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And krill make a LOT of noise when they fly

edgy sequoia
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yes

golden cave
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And.......@high bison

From what you’ve said....I think it also related to Yin and Yang power

verbal iron
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So that's the song at isle?

tender dune
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End credit

verbal iron
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Ooo

edgy sequoia
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both

golden cave
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We have our darkness and our inner light

edgy sequoia
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Since you can actually hear the credit songs in Isle too

golden cave
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Yeahhh we also make a loud noise when we honking nonstop

edgy sequoia
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HJONK

golden cave
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Like krills

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Always noisy

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That’s our darkness

edgy sequoia
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moffs

golden cave
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Hooonkkk

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And the light is the blessing from Megan

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I mean the cape of light

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Yin and Yang concept?

edgy sequoia
high bison
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Yeahhh we also make a loud noise when we honking nonstop
@golden cave But sky kid HJÖÑKS are like notes.
Krill noises are like, growling and clanking noises

edgy sequoia
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Could be very possiblle!

golden cave
edgy sequoia
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hrrkhk

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krrhshhr hrrkhrrk

golden cave
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@high bison yeah we got blessing from Megan to have both synergy and then it make a beautiful noise not like krills

edgy sequoia
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hmm

high bison
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@golden cave But who says we’re like somewhere in between light and dark instead of just light?
The concept art? (I haven’t seen much concept art)

tender dune
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Doubt im needed but @ me if needed or if u got more poop info stickerWave

edgy sequoia
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"Fly to the sun"
[...]
"to the sun"

golden cave
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Ouhhh it’s me sorry if it troubling this lore channel

mild lark
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Krill's noise maybe a design choice for making it feel scary

golden cave
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Yeah about that poop info does it confirmed yet

edgy sequoia
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"Fly to the sun"
[...]
"to the sun"
Here's what some of the lyrics most probably mean

golden cave
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It’s not from the concept art I just saying that maybe they also taking that yin yang concept

edgy sequoia
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with the help of @golden cave

golden cave
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Hahaha thanks

high bison
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@golden cave And aren’t we like, sent from the stars to bring light back to the world? So we’re basically angels?

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So light?

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We’ve even got wings

edgy sequoia
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we're a mix of both darkness and light

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hybrids if you want to call them that

golden cave
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And also in the concept art@high bison

There is like new descendants or new species...that us

high bison
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Can you send it?

boreal nebula
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Maybe they were used as living siege weapons?
@strange parrot whales as siege weapons... like elephants or Oliphaunts (LoTR animals)... since they seems quite a peaceful and shy species, discrete, coy as we can see in Pineswood ||the underground hidden area in Sunny Forest||
Something must be necessary to charging them to this much anger. Line Hannibal did against the Romans

golden cave
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Ouh...wait

edgy sequoia
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no need for spoiler tags! ^^

golden cave
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Ouhhh I don’t know where is that pic

high bison
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Maybe each creature isn’t completely light or dark, but somewhere in between (even krill)?

golden cave
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@boreal nebula as I known maybe(it’s rejected before)....the mask from GW Elder is made same as Whale Head Skeleton

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@high bison maybe....because they can have a blue light and red light they just have a disco light

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We are the hybrids

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But is this only a concept art?

high bison
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But then why in the intro cutscene, it says “When the stars were united, our light was infinite”? It wouldn’t make sense for the people that came from the stars (the ancestors and us) to be all light and not both light and dark?

golden cave
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Do you remember that stars also a little stone befor it shiny( is this true)???

edgy sequoia
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hmm

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Do you remember that stars also a little stone befor it shiny( is this true)???
@golden cave ?

high bison
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Maybe the elders and the ancestors didn’t come from the stars?

golden cave
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I’m not confirmed yet

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Let me googling

thin dirge
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Elders = Stars

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Ancestors ≠ Stars

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At least before they died, they were not stars

edgy sequoia
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I think they were the people depicted in the murals

thin dirge
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Maybe stars are more like an equivalent of someone's soul

edgy sequoia
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then they picked up the fallen starts thinking it was theor saviors or sometring

thin dirge
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But Elders are like, the greater stars or something?

edgy sequoia
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something*

golden cave
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Sorry it’s a bit heavy picture

high bison
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But if they weren’t stars, then why do they go to the stars when we relive their memories and become their friends?

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SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!

verbal iron
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Ahh this one
@golden cave I don't get who the 'indifferent ' ones are

high bison
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AAA MY BRAIN HURTS!!

thin dirge
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That's why I said that stars are perhaps what they call "souls" in Sky. Since they go to the Megabird which is in space

edgy sequoia
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orbit

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but yeah

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space

golden cave
thin dirge
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Orbit is a part of the Megabird

edgy sequoia
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space core go whee

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Orbit is a part of the Megabird
@thin dirge I think the light ball we fly into might be Mega bird's 'head'

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And Orbit is actually the mind of Megan

thin dirge
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Or the Megabird's heart

verbal iron
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I just thought of how much of a painful experience getting a wl and losing one must be stickerTired

golden cave
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You don’t need to make ur head painful as this real world....this Sky world is just a fantasy game made by intelligent people

thin dirge
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Yes. It hurts. Especially with the fact that lost wl reappers at a random spot, so it's gonna take ages to find that wl again

edgy sequoia
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it's not at a random spot

golden cave
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I’m not hurt anymore coz I’m lazy enough to collect themSkyYay

edgy sequoia
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they're in a coordinated place for you to easily come find them again

thin dirge
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I heard it was in a random place in a random realm

golden cave
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Don’t know

thin dirge
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In fact, many people said that the place they reappear in is random

edgy sequoia
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I think the reason why wl look up is because they are waiting for the day to be reunited with megan once more

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but then

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game logic go whoosh

thin dirge
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Some don't look up

verbal iron
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By painful I meant for the skids, getting a literal star fused into you SkyLOL

edgy sequoia
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Some don't look up
@thin dirge wait really

lethal stump
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the only ones that don’t look up are the 8 in the tunnel to point of no return

verbal iron
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The ones sitting at Eden?

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Yup

lethal stump
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the rest look up

thin dirge
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The ones we find in Isle of Dawn don't

golden cave
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Maybe they’ll staring at something that look like important things for their self

edgy sequoia
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yep

hushed steeple
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Some don't look up
@thin dirge only some in Eden dont look up and the shiny boi at the end(the one we hug)

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could be because they are already close to Megan

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and its just a matter of time

thin dirge
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They don't in Isle of Dawn, do they?

edgy sequoia
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By painful I meant for the skids, getting a literal star fused into you SkyLOL
@verbal ironp e y n

hushed steeple
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as opposed to the long wait for others

edgy sequoia
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They don't in Isle of Dawn, do they?
@thin dirge they do

hushed steeple
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they do look up in Isle of Dawn

thin dirge
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Oh

golden cave
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The Isle elder does not entering the chat with other Elders so....the light of child in Isle elder don’t want to see the other elder throne in orbit

edgy sequoia
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hm?

hushed steeple
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or maybe they are all looking at Eden instead of Megan. Explains why those in Eden dont look up. Looking up to save the statues??

edgy sequoia
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uh

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if they look at eden

golden cave
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Yeah I don’t know exactly how to say why they staring up for now

edgy sequoia
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they could've looked into the background version of eden'

high bison
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By painful I meant for the skids, getting a literal star fused into you SkyLOL
@verbal iron pFIRE

edgy sequoia
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not up in the sky

mild lark
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Maybe they looking at the sky

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Searching for megabird

edgy sequoia
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that's what I said

hushed steeple
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looking for megan doesnt explain the Eden ones where they dont look up right?

mild lark
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Eden is where we will go to orbit

edgy sequoia
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I think they were the ded statue kiddos who were so close to be reuniting with megan

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but they died

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before reaching the corridor

hushed steeple
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I think they were the ded statue kiddos who were so close to be reuniting with megan
@edgy sequoia makes sense

jovial nacelle
edgy sequoia
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they literally lost hope

golden cave
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Ouh yeah I remembered where did they staring now....

They staring to Megan coz they missed the Megan....

See where all the statues of ascended candle go? They go to Megan..which that statue is revived again with their light soul

jovial nacelle
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Dribagem

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Megabird - Drib a gem

edgy sequoia
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although the other ones that are standing in the corridor are still looking up, though

high bison
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Are we talking about the frozen sky kids after the point of no return?

jovial nacelle
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Hm

mellow sable
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so what's cracking

boreal nebula
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Idk since im new, but, all Ik is, at the end of eden which where u about to go up high in the sky, I saw that "elders statue"

I try to land on it but I can't pThink
@hushed steeple or do you mean this? Its diamond shape in its hands is very slippery

mellow sable
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and by cracking I mean

jovial nacelle
mild lark
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My theory suggests that this imprint of child of light is also like a spirit.. we going to relieve them. And see their memories.
As in eden ... I think the stormlock is once a beautiful place.. and the tunnel that we see is a resting area with alot of fireplace

golden cave
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It just randomly their emotions why someone light see up and some don’t

mellow sable
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what's the current crazy theory

jovial nacelle
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Drib a gem.

That matches kind of what’s happening with the megabird

gilded fossil
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/niko

jovial nacelle
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It’s dying pFIRE

hushed steeple
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what's the current crazy theory
@mellow sable shiny bois are the souls(?) of statues in Eden. Hence they look up

jovial nacelle
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Or evaporating

mellow sable
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but what about the shiny bois we get from spirits

thin dirge
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My headcanon is that the Imprints/Winged Lights were the memories of the King/Prince, which gives us light

mellow sable
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and besides, we know they're imprints of the Child of Light™

edgy sequoia
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/niko
@gilded fossil niko no

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stop

mild lark
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Those are permanent wing

edgy sequoia
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niko i beg

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fcgjnsfgjn

mellow sable
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the shiny bois are imprints of the CoL tho

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the devs said so

edgy sequoia
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hmm

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perhaps the ancient ones?

thin dirge
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The Prince could be the Child of Light

mellow sable
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no

thin dirge
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?

mellow sable
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the child of light is a different entity

thin dirge
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Is that confirmed?

golden cave
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The Ancient Children of Light like us

mellow sable
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iirc the prince is only in concept art

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which means old canon

thin dirge
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True

mellow sable
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he doesn't exist in the current lore

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why do people not get this

golden cave
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Ouh really the Prince is no longer the current lore?

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Because it’s basically a king not prince

thin dirge
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But that couldn't 100% mean its not there anymore, it could be left to our interpretation

mellow sable
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no no see

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the prince got yeeted

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theres nothing in relation to him in current sky

thin dirge
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(Even Bricky thinks the Prince may still be in the current lore-)

golden cave
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It become the prince coz he left his mech king suit

mellow sable
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he simply does not exist

thin dirge
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The devs haven't confirmed if the Prince really is 100% yeeted out of the lore, sooo...

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Plus, its left to our interpretation of the lore

mellow sable
static gull
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can someone send pic of megan?

golden cave
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And that little body from the king mech suit...is called as prince because they think it little body

thin dirge
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Did TGC really did confirm the Prince isn't in the lore anymore? Cause if they did, it should be written in the canon lore so that it won't be interpreted as a part of the lore.
Just sayin-

verbal iron
static gull
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tysmn

verbal iron
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@static gull

golden cave
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They just want us to say something like that

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That will make our head spinning with a lot of information

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Ehh wait does it true that it’s no longer a current lore?

mellow sable
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iirc ash came in and debunked the prince existing, while confirming the king still exists

golden cave
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The king still exist.......but where is he.......that’s still our BIG question....

mellow sable
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he exists, but not in the way we think

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fractured maybe

thin dirge
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Welp. Let's go back to the "King became the Diamond" theory then!

golden cave
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@verbal iron ouh yeah about this picture

mellow sable
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oh that's my theory

fossil oxide
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whos the king?

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anyone?

mellow sable
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he stuffed the CoL in the diamond and then tried to merge with it as a last ditch attempt to stop the explosion

golden cave
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Please read the pin please Pyre

mellow sable
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and then with the Winged Light, a fragment of the king remained

thin dirge
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I think the CoL is the one we meet when we die in Eden tho

golden cave
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Sorry Pyre for troubling you

thin dirge
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Since we get to interact with it

mellow sable
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so the skids are part light and part ancestor

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like what we see in the chart

golden cave
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Yeah I just thing that child we hug is the king

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Not prince

mellow sable
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part connected, part indifferent

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the connected have no cosmetics but can fly

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the spirits can't fly but they do have cosmetics

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we can do both

golden cave
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Indifferent maybe the old version of us...which is the light of child statues that will return to Megan

thin dirge
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That's just the symbolism behind the two states of the skid

mellow sable
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however, it appears the connected have an infinite amount of flying energy

thin dirge
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Darkness represent indifferent. Light represents connection

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The flame represents connection and probably still does in game tho

mellow sable
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so even when we ascend, we still hold onto our "indifferent" part

fossil oxide
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what is the pin?

mellow sable
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that's why when we ascend we're the only skids with cosmetics

thin dirge
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Though that's from the old concept of the lore

fossil oxide
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the pin please?

mellow sable
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flame still symbolizes connection, when we give the light back to the elders they're "reconnected" to megan

thin dirge
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We also use the flames to see other players and creates new friends. It definitely still represents connection

golden cave
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Yeahhhhh I think about the Megan picture that S thing...I actually think it’s the S thing is for a nickname for Sky world....and that little hundreds line connected to that S thing represent from various country....so that S represent as Sky that connected to every player that plays it...then it ended with a flame on candle which u said it the connection....

fossil oxide
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whos megan????????????

edgy sequoia
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hmm

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megabird

high bison
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whos megan????????????
@fossil oxide basically God

fossil oxide
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oh...

edgy sequoia
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I assume you might be new?

fossil oxide
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yup

edgy sequoia
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ah

fossil oxide
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today was my first rebirth

edgy sequoia
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someone get thislore moff a document

mellow sable
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megan is the canon light creature god

high bison
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I’m pretty sure the statues in Eden are dead sky kids, like how we die when we go to eden, but we don’t completely die. Our bodies die and are corrupted (become statues) and our light is drained, but our souls are essentially all right, trapped within our own corpses, and go into a hibernation of sorts, until another sky kid comes along and starts spreading his winged light around. One of the statues their winged light reaches is us, and the reason we hug the light instead of just absorb is because when we are alive, the light is absorbed into our bodies, but here, the body is dead, so instead of just absorbing it, we use it as a vessel to get us to orbit so Megan can give us new bodies. We fuse with it. And when we’re in orbit, we’ve BECOME a winged light (we’re all glowey) but we still maintain our individuality (our silhouette stays the same).

My head canon

mellow sable
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on the other hand we have karen, aka megakrill, my theoretical dark creature god

thin dirge
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There's a chance when Ash said the "Prince" doesn't exist, it means the concept or idea of the King being the "Prince" once was discarded.
So the King was always the King

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They could still be smol like in the concept

mellow sable
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yeah

fossil oxide
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the king is megan?

mellow sable
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king was always king

edgy sequoia
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on the other hand we have karen, aka megakrill, my theoretical dark creature god
@mellow sable karen SkyLOL

golden cave
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KAREN?!!!😂😂

edgy sequoia
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I can't

mellow sable
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the king is 3 skids and a chibi in a trenchcoat

thin dirge
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K-KAREN?!

edgy sequoia
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I CAN JUST

golden cave
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She’s not a irritating aunties that just summoned us for her

thin dirge
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the king is 3 skids and a chibi in a trenchcoat
@mellow sable Ah yes. More like 5 and a chibi

fossil oxide
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then if megan is god is the king is?? I thought like the king would be god...

thin dirge
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Or was it four and a chibi?

edgy sequoia
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IMAGINE THE KRILL COMPLAINING FOR BAD SERVICE

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hvjgopjkf

high bison
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pkrilleye
I nÈÉD tÔ SpEĀK TO thE M A N A G E R!!

mellow sable
thin dirge
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Was the concept of the CoL being the King still viable? Or was it jossed by TGC?

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I could search it up here in Discord, but the search ain't working on this app rn

fossil oxide
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what does the king rule? is he alive? is he a god?

golden cave
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@fossil oxide the King should be like us but he is just hidden for now....as everyone here said that the king is the child that we hugged after we died in Eden

boreal nebula
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everywhere I go
I see his face
@mild lark did you already reposted that? stickerPlease

thin dirge
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Aha, so my headcanon and theory survives

mild lark
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What what?

fossil oxide
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who are the good guys fighting in the battlefield???

mild lark
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@boreal nebula what do you mean?

fossil oxide
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the krill?

edgy sequoia
golden cave
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@boreal nebula almost like a song lyric

fossil oxide
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u know like in the golden wastelands

high bison
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I’m pretty sure the statues in Eden are dead sky kids, like how we die when we go to eden, but we don’t completely die. Our bodies die and are corrupted (become statues) and our light is drained, but our souls are essentially all right, trapped within our own corpses, and go into a hibernation of sorts, until another sky kid comes along and starts spreading his winged light around. One of the statues their winged light reaches is us, and the reason we hug the light instead of just absorb is because when we are alive, the light is absorbed into our bodies, but here, the body is dead, so instead of just absorbing it, we use it as a vessel to get us to orbit so Megan can give us new bodies. We fuse with it. And when we’re in orbit, we’ve BECOME a winged light (we’re all glowey) but we still maintain our individuality (our silhouette stays the same).

My head canon
I do not believe the King is the shiny dude we hug in Eden

fossil oxide
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who were the soldiers fighting

golden cave
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Yeah that is the concept art where everyone is corrupted and fighting each other

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Really?

fossil oxide
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in broken wasteland?

golden cave
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Yeah

fossil oxide
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they werent fighting the darkness?

golden cave
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@high bison really?

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@fossil oxide ahh I’m sorry I don’t remember much

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U should read the pins

fossil oxide
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the pins?

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where

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i want to read them too

high bison
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@golden cave Well, it’s my current head cannon

golden cave
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If u using iPad slide to left

fossil oxide
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im on a laptop

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windows

golden cave
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Ouh I don’t know

thin dirge
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Click the person icon next to the search?

golden cave
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Maybe you can try slide it or in find every inch of your screen where is that pins are

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Ouh yeahhh

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Clickthe person up there?

high bison
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@golden cave Well, it’s my current head cannon
I’m new to the lore channel so it might change

golden cave
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Ouh

thin dirge
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My current headcanon is that the King was the Child of Light and was the one that united the stars (the other 6 Elders)

golden cave
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Hmmm my head spinning right now I should go....thanks....and please tell me what happen to the POOP CLUES!!!!

thin dirge
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People started thinking it was the Green Light from Season of Enchantment, but I'm not sure if it really was that

tender dune
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pEyes there are new poop clues or is this repetition?

thin dirge
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Not sure. I dont think there was more?

tender dune
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pEyes 👌

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I think i understand the hint but im just blind. I'll slow cr today again

high bison
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I’m still trying to figure out what ‘light’ and ‘darkness’ is. It seems to be a bit more complicated than at first glance...

thin dirge
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So I'm not the only one who thinks the Krill came from the Whale?????

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The Krill resembles the Whale the most. Particularly the head

high bison
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I just think they’re like light and dark equivalents

thin dirge
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True

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That's what I thought originally too

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But we barely see the Whale. Only three times. While there's A LOT of Krills

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The three times we see the Whale might only be the same Whale everytime, meaning that there's only one

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So what happened to the other Whales?

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Are they special so there's only one? Or is there more to that...?

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Poor Whale. The last of its species tho if that's the case...

mellow sable
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this kinda looks like poop

edgy sequoia
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where?

high bison
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Maybe there was a time where light and dark didn’t exist, and there was a proto-krill/whale
Then when creatures started to evolve closer to the light or the dark, some of the proto-krill/whales evolved into whales and the others evolved into krill

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Like they had the same ancestors

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But crabs also headbut like krill and whale...

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ARE CRABS JUST BABY KRILL?!

thin dirge
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Well, I have a doc about a theory I made about Darkness, since you wondered if there's more to Light and Darkness

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(I created the doc cause I had to explain it 3 times to different ppl in a single day, lol)

edgy sequoia
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ARE CRABS JUST BABY KRILL?!
@high bisonbabey pWow

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I think Isle elder might still have his face therre

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since Valley faces in Eden are side to side

thin dirge
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I know I said this before, but I'm gonna mention it again cause not many payed attention because a lot was going on earlier

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Notice how there was a halo of light around the King (maybe it was the King?)

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It immediately disappears when the intro came into clear view, and then the words "But darkness came and the stars fell" followed afterwards

kind bobcat
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Looks more like the child of light.

edgy sequoia
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hmm

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most likely

thin dirge
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Yep, I'm gonna get inti that for a sec

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Not finished

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I think something happened with the King that cause the stars to fall (Hinted with the first part of the intri where the King first losing its light halo and the stars falling afterwards)

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Darkness is a word for "lack of light"

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Also, there's also this too

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Notice this?

lethal stump
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  • whispers *
    lucifer theory stickerShiny
thin dirge
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The star that was originally on the King's head or something from the first part appeared on the castle of Eden. We didn't see the King fall, but we see this "star" appear tho

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Then there's us, who looks exactly like the King, but without the star part on the head

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I think some event that happened with the King (that also led to the stars falling) caused the King to split in two.

lethal stump
thin dirge
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The soul (seen appear on the castle of Eden) and the body (which would soon become us afterwards)

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Which leads us into the "Mech theory"!

lethal stump
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maybe not the king, but the CoL ?
the CoL could have split into the king and the prince since in some concepts they were separate beings

thin dirge
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The Prince was said to not be in the current lore now. (Raf said it was confirmed by Ash)

lethal stump
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where ?

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i looked through ash’s messages here and didn’t see that anywhere

thin dirge
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Yeah true, I don't know where tho.

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I would probably have to ask them

lethal stump
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the only “source” i found was the theory doc where the person cited wasn’t a dev

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so i’m doubting that claim tbh

thin dirge
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Also, I can't search rn cause this app is not letting me for some reason. Keeps saying there's a no results

lethal stump
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I searched before, no mention of the prince by any of the devs

thin dirge
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Though that doesn't mean there's no sign of them rebunking it. They may have answered a question that resolves the Prince, but the answer didn't mention the Prince

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Does it?

lethal stump
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i’ve gone through their messages, no mention of the prince even if not by name

thin dirge
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Oh, it works now for me

lethal stump
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the prince’s status in canon is unclear as of now

boreal nebula
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The original Dropping of the Creb for refrence
https://youtu.be/2RnrgFhtD4w?t=353
@modest sequoia OMG, this video is amazing. There were lots of design choices I would dig ... the colors of the leading bird pManta the landscape of that tutorial Isle and the rendering of the textures of almost everything. Capes had a nice shade/gradient and the SeasonBelonging shapes are more visible on the chest too. pWow pAww

Also, NOT THE EMOTES..! OreoScream

thin dirge
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Ill probably have to ask Raf again if I see them again

lethal stump
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imma just say last time raf was saying this and i asked for sources they came up blank

boreal nebula
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Also now I get what Ktjn ment with darkplants = darkstones name thing

thin dirge
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Ohh, okay

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I was kinda suspicious with Raf

lethal stump
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So take the “prince isn’t in canon” statement with a grain of salt

thin dirge
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'Kay

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Imma gonna continue with the King/Prince thing I was talking about

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You know how there's the "Mech theory" where the big King was just the Prince in a mech or something?

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I think that since the Soul and body of the Prince was split off far away, I think the Elders ended up creating a new body for the Prince since the soul has no body and it was far away from where the soul ended up

edgy sequoia
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who's Raf\

lethal stump
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Raf is someone who comes by lore chat every now and then

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@/Raf#7220

edgy sequoia
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ohh

thin dirge
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At some point when the storm in Eden happened, the King's body got destroyed, leaving the soul of the Prince being in some limbo (the dark place where we find the CoL in Eden)

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The Imprints of the Child of Light were the Imprints Prince's memories, and their light. Everytime our kid goes and collects it, the kid finds out what happened to their other half

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The Megabird brought the body of the Prince to life, so that it could not only send the lost stars home, but to find its lost half

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That's why everytime we also lose all our light in Sky before Eden, we always go to the dark place where we see a Winged Light. It's an imprint of our own memories, or the imprint of our lost soul that was left behind when we got split

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The latter is probably more likely

verbal iron
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Hmm

thin dirge
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That's all for now I think

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To sum it all up, some event caused the stars to fall and the Prince/King was split up into two, the soul became the King and was given a new body since the original was far away. The King "died" and the soul was left in limbo and the Megabird brought the Prince's original body to life to collect its memories, send the stars home and become the Prince again

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Or the King. I like the idea of them being the same person

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Also since the new body of the King was artificial, it was easily destroyed, even with the soul.
Our body is also as fragile without the original soul being there. The Prince/King probably could've survived Eden if both the soul and body was together

lethal stump
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i love that theory butterfly

thin dirge
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But that part's more of my own headcanon

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Thanks

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Oof, I realised the last part about the Prince/King if they're whole can survive better in Eden probably doesn't make sense after our first rebirth, lol

edgy sequoia
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mm

elder geode
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i like these theoriespPopcorn
makes my brain go pFIRE

edgy sequoia
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yes

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same here

verbal iron
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I've always kinda wondered what this mini boat at prairie was

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The spirit who supposedly lived there looks like he made pots

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So why did he have a model boat?

lethal stump
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his name is “sleeping shipwright” which literally means he makes ships

verbal iron
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Hh

lethal stump
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(not the romance kind :p)

verbal iron
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Wow I'm an idiot

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Ahahah OK stickerOK

lethal stump
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no, you just haven’t memorized the names like me lmao

boreal nebula
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Do krill eat Butterfly?
@tribal pecan I think darkplants eat butterflies, after all if you're lucky to reach the GW spot in Bone Graveyard, the butterflies camp fire, you find a bunch of plant bulbs.
You burn them and butterflies get saved pButterfly 🦋

Also, on many cases, darkplants tend to grown on sealed butterflies Jars, trying to still their live force by exploiting their defenceless situation

Krills eat Us and Mantas
Dark Plants eat Butterflies and (IMHO) try to perpetually feed on tiny Mantas
Crab...? What do they eat? Tiny Jellyfish? OreoScream

lethal stump
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i’m a bit obsessed, i don’t expect others to have my level of enthusiasm

verbal iron
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So why does he have so many Pots then?

lethal stump
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storage i guess

boreal nebula
#

This would explain why we hardly see tiny jelly fish like the HF one (the only one giving just the 1 and just the first Wedge of light)

verbal iron
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Mmmmaybe ships are fueled by butterflies or light of some kind, so he keeps them There until the ship is ready to sail

boreal nebula
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But it's strange... there are no crabs in that part of the Forrest pThink SkyThink

thin dirge
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Maybe they're all gone. O.O

kind bobcat
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The ships were fueled by power diamonds, which behave like batteries pEyes

limpid plover
#

pSkyPeek lore?

verbal iron
#

Ye

lethal stump
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hello spirit ! are you new to lore ?

limpid plover
#

mhm!

lethal stump
verbal iron
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Hiii :D

kind bobcat
#

Lore chat is basically overanalyzing stuff, making crackpot theories and have one of them actually be true pEyes

verbal iron
limpid plover
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pEyes i am looking

verbal iron
#

Lore chat is basically overanalyzing stuff, making crackpot theories and have one of them actually be true pEyes
@kind bobcat this true though stickerGloomy

thin dirge
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Ooh, if a TGC staff comes, we should ask if there's a theory here that's canon! (Not asking if a specific theory is true, but if there's any theory we made that's close to the actual canon)

verbal iron
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Or at least, if they themselves actually have anything that's canon

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Cause maybe they don't have anything that's an actual storyline SkyShrug

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A question about this

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What is the "indifferent" character?

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Connection is wl, descendant is skids

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Wait is connection wl?

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Cause wl doesn't have a cape

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And ooo I just noticed

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Is this a Venn diagram?

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Someone help ;-;

thin dirge
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Ooh, I didn't notice that before

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It does look like a venn diagram

verbal iron
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Then

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Elder is dark?

thin dirge
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Well, it's only a concept of the lore.
Plus, that's not an Elder. It's an Ancestor. It just looks like the Isle Elder

verbal iron
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Ah right

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So indifferent is skids minus wl, right?

thin dirge
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Well, I think that's just us when we lose our light. Its the old version of us going dark without the light

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Indifferent is just the symbolism behind it

verbal iron
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Is this a concept art?

thin dirge
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Yes

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It's from the concept art for characters

verbal iron
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Where can I see the concept art?

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Is it in pins

thin dirge
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Yep

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Just keep scrolling down till you see the ones with the Concept art and lore

lethal stump
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Back then Elders were called “Ancestors”

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That’s meant to be an Elder

thin dirge
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Ohhh, okay

lethal stump
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In the scrapped timeline, Elders were simply Ancestors who the Prince had chosen to be his court

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and so for a while they were called Ancestors

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even after that concept was scrapped

thin dirge
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I see

high bison
#

Was this a pre-release alpha or something?

gilded fossil
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/yea i think

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/coulda been beta?

kind bobcat
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It's pre-release beta.

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prior to global launch.

fossil oxide
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do we know anything about the king

gilded fossil
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/we know

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/he's important, he exist, he probably got sth to the downfall of the kingdom, there's a ton of statues of him so he's probably a figure of importance

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/he probably has a son

lethal stump
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and he cannot be saved

kind bobcat
#

oh god he has a son?

lethal stump
#

wh—

gilded fossil
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/oh yea that's important i forgot

kind bobcat
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I don't think the king has a son pEyes

lethal stump
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if you’re referring to the prince...i don’t think there was ever a concept where the prince was the king’s son

kind bobcat
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But there was a concept whete the prince IS the king.

lethal stump
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there’s quite a few concepts like that

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and there’s also concepts where they’re separate people, but it doesn’t seem to be a father-son thing going on

gilded fossil
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/oh

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/nice

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/crackpot theory: probably because of the diamonds he didnt went through puberty

kind bobcat
#

w h a t

lethal stump
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i believe the king to be a megalomaniac 14 year old for different reasons

kind bobcat
#

i'll pretend i didn't see that, i am looking away. 👁️ 👄 👁️

gilded fossil
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/i mean

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/we have little royal boy concept art

hushed steeple
#

/crackpot theory: probably because of the diamonds he didnt went through puberty
@gilded fossil never occurred to me but sci can explain too lol. If he is made of light (or some part of him is) then the diamond can act similar to how chemicals affect our hormones soo....

gilded fossil
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/old adult royal man concept art

lethal stump
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the way i saw it, he was made a child and never grew up
the way skids don’t grow up

kind bobcat
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please, please no, not this topic. SkyScared

gilded fossil
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/where's the concept art where he broke his voice and attend prom

kind bobcat
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The elders are genderless

lethal stump
#

what ?

gilded fossil
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/oh yea

kind bobcat
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i repeat

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They're

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G e n d e r l e s s

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And they do not age

lethal stump
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we know, goob

wary barn
lethal stump
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but they are meant to represent certain types of adult, so they likely have pre-determined mental ages

gilded fossil
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/where's the concept art where he broke his voice and attend prom
/okay but can i still have the concept art where he attend prom

frail hearth
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he what

lethal stump
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what are you talking about, Jen

kind bobcat
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Jen i can't tell whether you're joking or you're serious about Alef not hitting puberty which should be IMPOSSIBLE for him since elders do not age nor have genders

lethal stump
frail hearth
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why do you say they don't have genders and you refer to the king as a he lol

gilded fossil
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Jen i can't tell whether you're joking or you're serious about Alef not hitting puberty which should be IMPOSSIBLE for him since elders do not age nor have genders
@kind bobcat /im joking hahaha SkyLOL not the prom tho

lethal stump
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pronouns ≠ gender but we don’t have time for that discussion again

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i’ve said this too many times at this point

frail hearth
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jesus sOrrY

mild lark
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King is wide thats all thats matters

gilded fossil
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/why is he so wide tho?

mild lark
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asserting dominance

gilded fossil
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/like awkwardly wide, he's like kingpin

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/he can just take the whole frame

mild lark
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Also very tall

gilded fossil
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/powerdiamonds makes him tall?

lethal stump
#

between 17 feet and 67 feet

gilded fossil
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/wait lemme go get my converter

mild lark
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Wow what .. I thought he was 17'4

lethal stump
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dépends on thé concept you’re looking at

mild lark
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Oooo

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So which one are 67?

gilded fossil
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/maybe the notes was to :Draw king very big

lethal stump
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I’m not sure, the person measuring didn’t specify

gilded fossil
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/guys he's like 500 cm oh my

mild lark
#

Hmm... Corrupted king is a good guess

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cries in normal human height

gilded fossil
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/cries in average asian heightstickerGloomy

mild lark
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Lol

lethal stump
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anyways
imma sneep

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goodnight, friends

mild lark
#

When I see king.. I usually imagine him talking like Samuel Hayden on doom... Idk he give me that I'm super cool vibe

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Goodnight bricky!

gilded fossil
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/nice

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/imagine a big giant guy talking down to you

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/and he's like

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/super wide

kind bobcat
#

you should see how we voiced him

lethal stump
#

OHOHOOO

kind bobcat
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Brick

lethal stump
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BEFORE I SLEEP

kind bobcat
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Back to sneep

mild lark
#

What?

gilded fossil
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/bricky?

mild lark
#

Am I missing something?

lethal stump
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i’ll dm it to you two, if that’s alright with you

mild lark
#

Cool DM me

gilded fossil
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/yooooo yess

lethal stump
#

ehehe

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now i sneep

#

for real

kind bobcat
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See ya brick.

mild lark
#

Bye bye!

gilded fossil
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/guys how is sunny forest stay sunny

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/what stopping them from the rain??

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/is it a very large room then?

mild lark
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Rain come from cloud and the cloud is bright

gilded fossil
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/filled with light?

thin dirge
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It makes sense that the clouds have light, since we can charge from them

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I guess that would also explain why rain drains our light. They're from dark clouds.

hushed steeple
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but dont dark clouds also charge us ?

kind bobcat
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Yes, all clouds recharge us.

thin dirge
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True

gilded fossil
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/aaaaaaargh

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/why cant we figure out the most basic thing in this game

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/water here has so many propoties

vestal sapphire
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This doesn't really have anything to do with the lore but I'm curious. The hide and seek spirit was found in a cave, and that got me thinking, was she hiding there thinking that the hide and seek game is still going? Without knowing that she and everyone else was dead?

Actually, do any of the spirits realize their dead when you first found them? I'm surprised I haven't found anyone talking about the location of this particular spirit.

gilded fossil
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/maybe cause it's more like a memory

mild lark
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When you relieve the spirit you actually seeing what they do when they were alive.. it not that they know at that exact time they're a spirit.

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Wait thats confusing

gilded fossil
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/i really would like to know why these particular spirits gets to be spirits

kind bobcat
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The spirit memories may or may not be their final moments.

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But seeing that their corpses/stone bodies are at the exact same place the memory ends

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It probably was.

mild lark
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Hmm why is it that they died at that exact moment tho

gilded fossil
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But seeing that their corpses/stone bodies are at the exact same place the memory ends
@kind bobcat /man imagine the last thing you do was a good hide and seek game

mild lark
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My main explanation for this is eden exploded and what we see is one second or less before it just completely wiped out all living things

gilded fossil
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/well i feel bad for cry spirit

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/never got to file a report for better working conditions

mild lark
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Also I think that when eden exploded.. it just turn the whole realm into ashes.. meaning that it was a burning hell. But as time goes one living things repopulate the area and it seem like nothing happened

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Because is just the case with the meteorite that ended the dinasour

kind bobcat
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Although the ruins doesnt seem scorched though pEyes

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It probably was a shockwave that killed the spirits.

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What kind? I have no idea

mild lark
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Forest is behind valley.. so idk

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They probably die from the extreme heat

kind bobcat
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And apparently it only affected the spirits, and not the light creatures

mild lark
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Not the Shockwave

kind bobcat
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Personally i think there was never any heat.

gilded fossil
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It probably was a shockwave that killed the spirits.
/i like theory that deep call= shockwave.
/what if someone made us purposfully to destroy the spirts

kind bobcat
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Just a massive mystical shockwave that killed any spirits that got hit by it.

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Yes, something like a very large deep call.

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But it flips spirits to the point they die pEyes

mild lark
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No like sometime big explosion give so much heat that it raise up the temperature up to 90 to 100°C... Not that the realm is burning.

hushed steeple
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Not sure if this belongs here but when we are releasing the manta in forest why doesnt it charge us? any specific reason?

kind bobcat
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The heat from the eden crystal fracture, assuming there was any, could've been diffused far before it hit any realms.

tender dune
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it does charge u

kind bobcat
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Plus, even the closer areas to eden dont seem to be scorched.

mild lark
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Uuuh because the manta's energy has been sucked out? Idk

tender dune
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no it does, and they also follow you around

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they always chase me to recharge me

mild lark
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Oh yeah it does that I forgot... Cries in can't play the game anymore

hushed steeple
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oh? It didnt charge me today (I dont remember before)

tender dune
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they produce v small honks so the recharge isnt that strong

hushed steeple
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or maybe i just didnt pay enough attention lol

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they produce v small honks so the recharge isnt that strong
@tender dune oh ok

tender dune
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i usually hang with them and they love circling us

hushed steeple
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thanks :)

tender dune
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np stickerHeart

kind bobcat
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Alright, let me explain to you how i think the eden explosion happened. Eden released a shockwave or something that is like a negative honk/anti-honk that takes away the light of the ancestors, which killed them.

hushed steeple
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the shock wave theory will mean that isle of dawn doesnt have spirits cause its pretty far from Eden right?

kind bobcat
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The shockwave might have been powerful enough it reached isle.

hushed steeple
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@kind bobcat thats makes sense but what abt the other creatures?

mild lark
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My interpretation of the eden explosion is more like a heatwave..

hushed steeple
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The shockwave might have been powerful enough it reached isle.
@kind bobcat wont it cause more damage in valley in that case

kind bobcat
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The shock wave was like a honk.

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Not actually a shockwave

mild lark
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Oof imagine eden mountain's honk

kind bobcat
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More of a huge massive honk of death

mild lark
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More like thanos snap for me

kind bobcat
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The connection of the ancestors to light are lesser than the creatures, so probably the shockwave crippled the creatures but not kill them.

mild lark
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you should have gone for the head

Woooooosh

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Wait a minute.. so you said that eden take all the light away?

kind bobcat
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Well, not all, most of it.

mild lark
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So does that mean the shooting beam is all the dead spirit and mantaspEyes pEyes

kind bobcat
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Explains some of the deactivated machinery which are powered by power diamonds.

hushed steeple
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that makes a lot of sense

mild lark
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I kinda wonder if the huge diamond at eden is some kind of weapon of mass destruction

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Look too cool not to lol

lime birch
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well, some theories support that SkyShrug

boreal nebula
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I think I read once the theory about all doors & windows shape to be a King Proganda...

But I think it's just the usual representation Elders & Ancestors used for their kind(s). After all, every tombstone (beside the miners) you can see has that shape

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Only Lamed (Vault's Elder) bears a rectangular shaped one, but that could be a remnant of the old beta )as I think I saw they used to be like thar, even the Twins' tombstone

topaz girder
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even in home the realms are shaped like that sqwarlockDed

boreal nebula
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Mostly. Yeah

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I once though it was a Butterfly Jar shape. But now I can't unsee it to be a battery shape SkyLOL 🔋

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SkyLOL 🔋

gilded fossil
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/lol imagine they got plug into a toy

boreal nebula
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The toy burst into flames

tender dune
gilded fossil
boreal nebula
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But it's fine. It's self preserving it's own chargeSkyCandleLighting

hushed steeple
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What is battery shaped?

short owl
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@high bison I can try. The idea is that the king is a bit of a legend or ideal. A Propoganda, if you will. Someone (Megan?) began advertising a larger than life version of the prince, either for control or because of misunderstandings.

This ideal became associated with the crown, while the person Aleph actually was became disconnected.

That would not release Aleph from the responsibilities of the crown, just make the expectations more unreasonable.

Aleph, disconnected from his constillation, would need a new one, and adopted his cape as his symbol durring times where he was less than the king. The stars in the sky were never informed, but on the ground, cape meant the prince.

Come Eden's destruction, the elders and spirits decide to seal off the realm. They agree to make Aleph the key to reopen it, and use the symbol he adopted rather than the symbol the stars assigned him.

Time passes and we are formed from Aleph's energy. Being tied to his actual identity, we form on the symbol that actually represents him, and are able to access the gate that uses the symbol that represents who he actually was, while the stars and story we are told in the vault are tied to the person he was expected to be. (Perhaps Lamed's presentation references this as a small mercy towards Aleph - the crown is used to provide an opportunity for Aleph, and us, to decide not to be either the one we were expected to be nor the person Aleph became trying to be them. But that's tangent.)

The stars do not recognise this change in identity, and continue to treat Aleph, and Us as the king figure.

gilded fossil
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/thanks Null!

hushed steeple
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Since the concepts art are no longer official canon in the current game, it opens up a whole new line of thinking and exploring of the king. I present an idea that serves as an extension to Null'

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Nulls

gilded fossil
short owl
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It helps that it's no longer past my bedtime XD

fossil oxide
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aleph?

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lamed?

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i just learned megan and karen

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how many of these word are there

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what do they mean?

short owl
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Pyre, answers to that and more

fossil oxide
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thank

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i just read it

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great document

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do animals in sky reproduce?

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do they die?

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if i wait long enough will the krill theoretically go extinct?

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are the krill robotic?

gilded fossil
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/good question actually

fossil oxide
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the krill are probably robotic...

short owl
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Well... We know animals can be killled

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And from sanctuary, it looks like they age

fossil oxide
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then the mantas will eventually destroy the ecosystem in the daylight prairie because they obviously reproduce and there are no natural predators

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what do mantas eat?

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Oh and since the stars(?) were driven from eden because of the darkness the kingdom of sky is probably less like the galactic republic and the separatists and more like the imperium of man and the xenos...

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i believe its not a civil war that ravaged wasteland but rather an invasion

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just in case i am sounding super stupid right now am i missing something?

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in the grim darkness of the golden wasteland there is only warSkyLOL

short owl
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... Yeah, me. You lost me somewhere.

Mantas do have predators though: Krill, and dark plants (Krill are confirmed natural creatures, and we see mantas trapped in dark plants in the forest)

We have no hints as to a manta's diet, only guesses, so I cannot answer your question

I have no idea what you are referencing bc I do not have a lot of experience with movie cultire.

fossil oxide
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first daylight prairie doesnt have krill and i dont think it ever will

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and also the refferences are 1. StarWars, 2. Warhammer 40k

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theyre both actually quite famous

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references

short owl
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  1. True, but all light creatures appear to need to make a migration towards Eden, so it's plausable that material gets transfered back that way through secondary means.
  2. Never engaged with Warhammer 40K so... SkyShrug
fossil oxide
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you do know it though right?

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and what do the animals do in eden

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||does the ball just keep getting bigger?||

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of animals

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you know...

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the one u see at the end...

hushed steeple
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The king statues and references around the game are an exaggeration or idyllic view of the prince, a caricature if you will. It may be that the prince was rarely seen and their presence were limited to the elders. The king's statue is then by induction the imagination or envisioning of the prince and their power indoctrinated among the ancestor spirits.

The strange piece that seems to not fit within this theory is the isle elder Daleth does not participate to seal the gate to eden yet the realm of isle contain many attributions to the prince (king), while the vault elder Lamed is shown as the central keystone on the gate of eden, but we see no direct reference or allusions to the king in the vault of knowledge. (I haven't thought of a substantial follow-up to explain it)

Based on Null's interpretation that we, the sky children, are formed from the energies of the prince, it seems unconventional that in the memories/cutscenes of the elders, they seem to be unaware of that we are the crown's descendants. Except when Lamed shows us the projections of each constellation, we begin to see the uneasiness of Lamed, as if they know our true identity. Essentially, the hesitation of Lamed opens a whole new can of worms implying that all the elders in their cutscene do know our identity as to associated with the crown, then their hostility and behavior could very well be tied to what occurred to prince and eden.

Finally, we see the all of the elders bow/kneel down toward us after the projection of the vault, the method which Samekh and Tsadi kneels down resembles that of the bows of a warrior, the difference stances each elder take could signify their degree of reverence and regrets, I have not deciphered all of the stances fully though.

That is all for now

fossil oxide
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like so we are like the primarchs?

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or the space marines!!!!

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i personally think lambdaw and null are kinda reaching though it kinda makes sense

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so then the king is narrarating in the sky intro

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right?

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i also dont get how the animals are migrating to eden since the portals are the only way there...

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if what i just said was right, the mantas mostly feed on darkness plants or some kind of invisible floating plankton(?) since that is the only common feature of realms that support manta life

short owl
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If the prince had a king identity that was nothing like him, why would he need to be hidden away at all? Aleph could likely walk through Valley and not be recognised. Probably a huge benefit if you're trying to keep an eye on the state of a kingdom.
As for Lamed being keystone... I can see it. Someone knowledgable would need to draw our constellation and make the gates/barriers. Tsadi probably also knew though, and may have been prepared to protect the vault from us... Until we choose to make a peace offering instead of showing literally any aggression.

fossil oxide
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can you make a sign of agressin at all?

short owl
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As for the portals being the only way to Eden... Most light creatures we see are far better at flight than us. They could easily have a different route.

fossil oxide
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hmmm

short owl
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Birds fly through the Eden pipes. Whales hop through clouds. Mantas may have a higher path than we know about.

fossil oxide
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ohhhhhhhh

short owl
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For light creatures to have a different route to Eden is not a stretch. They're different from us, so why would they not travel differently?

fossil oxide
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i get that one

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i kinda love that 소대교

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소대교

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Man!!!!!!!1

short owl
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... I so do not understand

fossil oxide
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소대교

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?

short owl
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Repeating will not help

fossil oxide
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why does it keep doing this

modest sequoia
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How do mantas get to Eden pThink

tender trail
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maybe the mantas come from eden

fossil oxide
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higher path rememb?er

modest sequoia
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Jellies I guess live there, but mantas are travelers pThink

fossil oxide
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theory

short owl
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Likely they fly above the clouds.

fossil oxide
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that was what kept coming out in korean

short owl
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We see them do a lot of high flying

fossil oxide
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theory

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so theoretically if i catch a manta and stick with it it will get me all the way to edn?

modest sequoia
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Oh, right, evolution has taught them to avoid giant swirling vortexes of doom SkyLOL

fossil oxide
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someone plz test this

modest sequoia
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Unlike us

fossil oxide
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so only mantas with a natural aversion to whirl pools have survived

short owl
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Probably not Pyre. In cannon you could possibly ride one all the way, but it wouldn't be a thing in game

modest sequoia
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I like that theory SkyTada

short owl
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This assumes your weight isn't a problem.

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It might be.

modest sequoia
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Never seen talk about Sky evolution SkyShrug

fossil oxide
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u know the over cloud oob in eden?

strange parrot
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Also from a gamedesign standpoint it wouldn't be ideal if you could just take a bus to the end of the game

fossil oxide
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there are no mantas above the coluds there so it would be right to assume they never make it to eden

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is arya from got?

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GOT

cold steppe
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There’s a manta in Orbit, so I would assume they ascended somehow

modest sequoia
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Whats the evolution chart for all these creatures like? What's the missing link between us and mantas pThink

strange parrot
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Arya is my first online username and it was based on the inheritance cycle/eragon
I'm not even into these books anymore but I kept the username bc I'm used to it

modest sequoia
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Did we decend from the same species even? SkyShrug

cold steppe
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I like to think of creatures and skykids as simply things that spawned independently from each other and came from the light

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Or that megabird gave life to everything

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There’s one concept art that seems to imply, if not outright state, that megabird is a sort of creator

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The devs have said that mantas come from light and you can see them spawning from the clouds

boreal nebula
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Krill as lion
butterfly as a tiny mouse
@edgy sequoia then this reaction sticker...
is the Fairtale of The Lion And The Tiny Mouse

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cBattiChubbersB↔️ 🦁 🐁

modest sequoia
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Candles Darwin: The Origin of Skycies SkyTada

boreal nebula
hushed steeple
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that makes sense

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we need a sort of food chain - might help explain

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Krills attack skid + manta
Dark Plants feed on butterflies + small mantas?
Crab attacks skid + jellyfish (cause in sanctuary both the chill crabs and jellyfish coexist so the ones that attack might hv eaten up the jelly fish)
jellyfish(?) + manta attack crabs? (iirc not seen manta and crab in the same place)

short owl
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Personally I think we have yet to see all species. There could be species that only are active at night

hushed steeple
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true but that means we should be seeing day and night cycles in all realms ?

short owl
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Not if the journey from isle to vault is always completed in the span of one day

exotic shuttle
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i love trying to think about how time works in sky... you could stay in prairie all day and it'll never become night-time. assuming it's not a game-mechanic, i wonder what it means

silver fjord
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Megan

short owl
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Alternative: we are also in time-out and thus what we can visit is time locked while we are there

hushed steeple
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I like the alternative but what if time doesnt really exist at all

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Well if you guys talking about time... The time of each realm wasn't always been like this

deft spear
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hi i just wanted to know like what happened after the battle in gw battlefield? like did they win and krill went back after a long time or did they lose and krills just lived there since?

hushed steeple
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what if whatever killed the spirits also stopped time

Well if you guys talking about time... The time of each realm wasn't always been like this
@hushed steeple

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Maybe....SkyThink

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Sof new here?

tribal pecan
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hi i just wanted to know like what happened after the battle in gw battlefield? like did they win and krill went back after a long time or did they lose and krills just lived there since?
@deft spear The war couldn't have ben fougth against Krill, they would just fly above the battlements

hushed steeple
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they didn’t seem to have any weapons to use against krill or whales, so most of us think it was a war between ancestors

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And just want to let you guys know ... In yawn emote spirit memory it's showing a prairie at night time

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oh oki... bye-bye to the no time theory then

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Look at the window👀

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ooh true

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never paid attention to that much detail

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the time destroyed theory still works tho ig?

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the time destroyed theory still works tho ig?
It seems the time has been stopped

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So it's ..

fiery drift
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Unsure if allowed here but - I have a question about an ||oob and a photo of it||

short owl
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Oobs, and any live content relating to lore are ok here

hushed steeple
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would love to visit night time prairie and sunny ForestpFIRE

short owl
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Spoiler not needed here

tribal pecan
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It seems the time has been stopped
@hushed steeple This is nightmare fuel, We need time to move through space, we, this, I just can't

hushed steeple
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Oh that .. i can help you.. .... Dm
Actually this channel is for discussing game stories and lore
@fiery drift

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Home space do changes time btw

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Home space do changes time btw
@hushed steeple right forgot about that for a min

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Bricky has a theory on it... Why the time isn't fixed in home like other realms

silver fjord
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Flat earth?

hushed steeple
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I'll check it out

Bricky has a theory on it... Why the time isn't fixed in home like other realms
@hushed steeple

fiery drift
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Thanks for heads up @hushed steeple I deleted my comment

cold acorn
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i dont think this is count as theory, but is it true that the season of belonging spirits are a family?

crimson grove
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Yeah! The seasons story is about a family reconnecting. I think TGC talked about it a few times, perhaps in a livestream

boreal nebula
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yeah, that theory popped up in here too, right down to the word choice of "mech" SkyLOL
@orchid crypt (wild idea just popped in my mind) what if those aren't King's statues (for propaganda) but are Mech for tiny Ancestors to their part in defending the Vault Of Knowledge?

After all I think we can spotted them only quite near the temple and then just in Eden (destroyed) perhaps because they tried to push forward and attack/mission to reconquest they Red Diamond

boreal nebula
crimson grove
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Flower came out 3 years before journey!