#lore-discussion-spoilers
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He said full candle run, so i doubt the green light is the poop cuz during cr we dont pass by there
Or are they all the same sort of place at different times?
Part of one world
but which one
Actually it’s the same world but each portal make a shortcut for us
there's a red planet shown in the credits
That planet just show us that we’ve flying toward the orbit where the Megabird should live
hmm
nono not flying towards orbit
Not confirmed...
So like, you could walk from the Isle to the prairie and to the forest (assuming your Jesus enough to walk on clouds)?
the camera was zooming out of orbit
Yeahh I mean like we’ve flying toward the space
then the planet just go whoosh
Ah yeah u mean the planet on the top right
wait
Outside from Earth
so uh
There're many planets actually in credits.... Maybe other worlds (sky 2.0,sky 3.0,,..........)
Where we can see stars and planets
And the whole world is connected?
Don’t know.......
I think its just showing us that we're basically zooming out of the orbit we're in to show megan in the end
crackpot theory:
Megabird's body is actually made out of tgc staff

Heii I want to ask something......
please do not try to dodge the chat censor, it’s there for a reason
hh bad jkeyborad
call it a crackpot theory
I think that is the the story of sky
Yeahhhhh
I want to say that is the lyric for the song
As far as I know, it is
But....do you understand it???
No, no one knows what it says
Ouh.....
I heard that the song was supposed to sound like a bit more of japanese
in beta eden
(Also brikeh whats with the |uber?
)
I thought you’ve translate it and know about it.....maybe it’s the storyteller song
what if
Would be nice if someone knew the lyrics/translation hahah
it might be the megabird singing it as a lullaby as she shepherds the light child back to home?
I always thought of the song as a nice lullaby
Omg mmaaaybeehhh
Yeah it’s a nice lullaby for us to come back home child and help me again GET THOSE LIGHTS!!!!
hhh
IM DYIEEENNNGGG
But please noo that is totally brutal and it’s crossed the goal for this game...
But maybe ........
mmm
But please noo that is totally brutal and it’s crossed the goal for this game...
@golden cave what about the elders tho
some say they murdered mantas for diamonds 
/they mudered mantas for leather

my manta grinder
whoosh
light juice
also
I'm actually glad someone wrote the lyrics for the song
/yea
I actually want to try to sing it
/imagine the song stuck in your head tho
but the only lines I know were " Niko noooo"
I actually want to try to sing it
@edgy sequoia /Oh please do
"NIKO NO"
/imagine the song stuck in your head tho
@gilded fossil it is lmao
wait wait
now I think about it
Niko Niko Nii
/iss Niko an important part of the plot
/Niko is Megan's first Skid ever created
Plot twist: Niko is King
:0
/Niko is Megan's first Skid ever created
@gilded fossil could be
but I think they got corrupted in a way
"noo"
/definitely not drunked theory or anything
lmao
What did i miss?
CRACKPOT THEORY:There’s this dark/corrupted sky kid named Niko and in a future season we have to fight it or something
/yes
We gotta break it’s Niko Niko Kneecaps
/since aurora sing Niko no at the begining
What did i miss?
@hushed steeple niko niko nii is what u missed xD
citadel in particular has very strong updrafts, which is going to interfere with discerning what the actual gravitational force there is; if we assume that fast falling using emotes negates the effects of any updrafts, then that would probably imply all areas have the same level of gravity if the max fall speed is always the same
@orchid crypt @tribal pecan that's a good point, but you could force your fall with Return to HomeSpace button... (at least for those 5-7 seconds the fall will last before the white light and being warped to home) ... tapping that can even defies Vault's orange-floating force-field and let you freely fall into lower levels
that's a good point, but you could force your fall with Return to HomeSpace button... (at least for those 5-7 seconds the fall will last before the white light and being warped to home) ... tapping that can even defies Vault's orange-floating force-field and let you freely fall into lower levels
@boreal nebula /actually, I use that once to get a shiny boi i forgot at the bottom :vv
ooh
Oufff scientific chats begin again
ANOTHER CRACKPOT THREORY: The sky kid and the cape they wear are two separate organisms living in symbiosis
Omg maybe.... like Maleficent and her wing!!
Because the children require the cape to fly and without it they are wingless birds
I think its original language made by sky
hmmmm
@edgy sequoia which language do you think the lullaby relates with?
I think it the niko niko mo....
Almost like come back...come back my children...or wake up....wake up my children...
Speaking of capes... why do some of the ancestors were sky kid capes?
Wear?
They probably made it themselves
Maybe...
As superriors or perhaps fashion
Yeah wear
Or protectionnpurposes like sneaking stance
I don’t think the flying race also is made for race before we summoned
It just a fallen city
But what does the cape symbolise? And why do only some ancestors have them but all sky kids have them?
And use them to fly?
Thats a question, a big question
I think for them its like a shawl (since i remember the game inspires its architecture/stuff from mountainous regions) but to us its for flying (and cosmetics)
Or maybe they have no use of the scarf
Megan thinks it good for us to fly because if only we walk we can’t reach some place faster..
Right?
Speaking of capes... why do some of the ancestors were sky kid capes?
@high bison for the sake of cosmetics
I'm just joking
Easy answer: fashion
Capes are cool
Like our dream to fly to school faster if we are late....or you are tired and want to fly back home...
f e m u r
@edgy sequoia which language do you think the lullaby relates with?
I think it the niko niko mo....
Almost like come back...come back my children...or wake up....wake up my children...
@golden cave hmmm how'd you know?
where is tibia
Femur breaking noise*
Just saying@edgy sequoia
Coz it’s seem like reminding me about kid
but the last two words, though
Imsryicanthelpit
"So rha"
Niko niko it just make my head thinks it a child...
could be, though
Rha...or Ra.....
I think ra is the name for the God of Sun
"So sun"?
So Rha.....to the sun?
Fly to the sun?
Come back to the sun?
HMMM
Maybe the cape symbolises a connection to the light?
Because all the light creatures we see can fly freely (birds, mantas, probably butterflies) while the dark creatures we see walk around (crabs) or at least hover not too far above the ground (krill)
so uh
I agree
What did I walk into
the song mentioned "so rha" two times
And krill make a LOT of noise when they fly
yes
And.......@high bison
From what you’ve said....I think it also related to Yin and Yang power
So that's the song at isle?
End credit
Ooo
both
We have our darkness and our inner light
Since you can actually hear the credit songs in Isle too
Yeahhh we also make a loud noise when we honking nonstop
HJONK
moffs
Hooonkkk
And the light is the blessing from Megan
I mean the cape of light
Yin and Yang concept?






Yeahhh we also make a loud noise when we honking nonstop
@golden cave But sky kid HJÖÑKS are like notes.
Krill noises are like, growling and clanking noises
Could be very possiblle!

@high bison yeah we got blessing from Megan to have both synergy and then it make a beautiful noise not like krills
hmm
@golden cave But who says we’re like somewhere in between light and dark instead of just light?
The concept art? (I haven’t seen much concept art)
Doubt im needed but @ me if needed or if u got more poop info 
"Fly to the sun"
[...]
"to the sun"
Ouhhh it’s me sorry if it troubling this lore channel
Krill's noise maybe a design choice for making it feel scary
Yeah about that poop info does it confirmed yet
"Fly to the sun"
[...]
"to the sun"
Here's what some of the lyrics most probably mean
It’s not from the concept art I just saying that maybe they also taking that yin yang concept
with the help of @golden cave
Hahaha thanks
@golden cave And aren’t we like, sent from the stars to bring light back to the world? So we’re basically angels?
So light?
We’ve even got wings
And also in the concept art@high bison
There is like new descendants or new species...that us
Can you send it?
Maybe they were used as living siege weapons?
@strange parrot whales as siege weapons... like elephants or Oliphaunts (LoTR animals)... since they seems quite a peaceful and shy species, discrete, coy as we can see in Pineswood ||the underground hidden area in Sunny Forest||
Something must be necessary to charging them to this much anger. Line Hannibal did against the Romans
Ouh...wait
no need for spoiler tags! ^^
Ouhhh I don’t know where is that pic
Maybe each creature isn’t completely light or dark, but somewhere in between (even krill)?
@boreal nebula as I known maybe(it’s rejected before)....the mask from GW Elder is made same as Whale Head Skeleton
@high bison maybe....because they can have a blue light and red light they just have a disco light
Ahh this one
We are the hybrids
But is this only a concept art?
But then why in the intro cutscene, it says “When the stars were united, our light was infinite”? It wouldn’t make sense for the people that came from the stars (the ancestors and us) to be all light and not both light and dark?
Do you remember that stars also a little stone befor it shiny( is this true)???
hmm
Do you remember that stars also a little stone befor it shiny( is this true)???
@golden cave ?
Maybe the elders and the ancestors didn’t come from the stars?
I think they were the people depicted in the murals
Maybe stars are more like an equivalent of someone's soul
then they picked up the fallen starts thinking it was theor saviors or sometring
But Elders are like, the greater stars or something?
something*
Sorry it’s a bit heavy picture
But if they weren’t stars, then why do they go to the stars when we relive their memories and become their friends?
SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!
Ahh this one
@golden cave I don't get who the 'indifferent ' ones are
That's why I said that stars are perhaps what they call "souls" in Sky. Since they go to the Megabird which is in space
Here survey this
Orbit is a part of the Megabird
space core go whee
Orbit is a part of the Megabird
@thin dirge I think the light ball we fly into might be Mega bird's 'head'
And Orbit is actually the mind of Megan
Or the Megabird's heart
I just thought of how much of a painful experience getting a wl and losing one must be 
You don’t need to make ur head painful as this real world....this Sky world is just a fantasy game made by intelligent people
Yes. It hurts. Especially with the fact that lost wl reappers at a random spot, so it's gonna take ages to find that wl again
it's not at a random spot
I’m not hurt anymore coz I’m lazy enough to collect them
they're in a coordinated place for you to easily come find them again
I heard it was in a random place in a random realm
Don’t know
In fact, many people said that the place they reappear in is random
I think the reason why wl look up is because they are waiting for the day to be reunited with megan once more
but then
game logic go whoosh
Some don't look up
By painful I meant for the skids, getting a literal star fused into you 
Some don't look up
@thin dirge wait really
the only ones that don’t look up are the 8 in the tunnel to point of no return
the rest look up
The ones we find in Isle of Dawn don't
Maybe they’ll staring at something that look like important things for their self
yep
Some don't look up
@thin dirge only some in Eden dont look up and the shiny boi at the end(the one we hug)
could be because they are already close to Megan
and its just a matter of time
They don't in Isle of Dawn, do they?
By painful I meant for the skids, getting a literal star fused into you
@verbal ironp e y n
as opposed to the long wait for others
They don't in Isle of Dawn, do they?
@thin dirge they do
they do look up in Isle of Dawn
Oh
The Isle elder does not entering the chat with other Elders so....the light of child in Isle elder don’t want to see the other elder throne in orbit
hm?
or maybe they are all looking at Eden instead of Megan. Explains why those in Eden dont look up. Looking up to save the statues??
Yeah I don’t know exactly how to say why they staring up for now
they could've looked into the background version of eden'
By painful I meant for the skids, getting a literal star fused into you
@verbal iron
not up in the sky
that's what I said
looking for megan doesnt explain the Eden ones where they dont look up right?
Eden is where we will go to orbit
I think they were the ded statue kiddos who were so close to be reuniting with megan
but they died
before reaching the corridor
I think they were the ded statue kiddos who were so close to be reuniting with megan
@edgy sequoia makes sense

they literally lost hope
Ouh yeah I remembered where did they staring now....
They staring to Megan coz they missed the Megan....
See where all the statues of ascended candle go? They go to Megan..which that statue is revived again with their light soul
although the other ones that are standing in the corridor are still looking up, though
Are we talking about the frozen sky kids after the point of no return?
Hm
so what's cracking
Idk since im new, but, all Ik is, at the end of eden which where u about to go up high in the sky, I saw that "elders statue"
I try to land on it but I can't
@hushed steeple or do you mean this? Its diamond shape in its hands is very slippery
and by cracking I mean
My theory suggests that this imprint of child of light is also like a spirit.. we going to relieve them. And see their memories.
As in eden ... I think the stormlock is once a beautiful place.. and the tunnel that we see is a resting area with alot of fireplace
It just randomly their emotions why someone light see up and some don’t
what's the current crazy theory
Drib a gem.
That matches kind of what’s happening with the megabird
/niko
It’s dying 
what's the current crazy theory
@mellow sable shiny bois are the souls(?) of statues in Eden. Hence they look up
Or evaporating
but what about the shiny bois we get from spirits
My headcanon is that the Imprints/Winged Lights were the memories of the King/Prince, which gives us light
and besides, we know they're imprints of the Child of Light™
Those are permanent wing
The Prince could be the Child of Light
no
?
the child of light is a different entity
Is that confirmed?
The Ancient Children of Light like us
True
Ouh really the Prince is no longer the current lore?
Because it’s basically a king not prince
But that couldn't 100% mean its not there anymore, it could be left to our interpretation
(Even Bricky thinks the Prince may still be in the current lore-)
It become the prince coz he left his mech king suit
he simply does not exist
The devs haven't confirmed if the Prince really is 100% yeeted out of the lore, sooo...
Plus, its left to our interpretation of the lore
can someone send pic of megan?
And that little body from the king mech suit...is called as prince because they think it little body
Did TGC really did confirm the Prince isn't in the lore anymore? Cause if they did, it should be written in the canon lore so that it won't be interpreted as a part of the lore.
Just sayin-
tysmn
@static gull
They just want us to say something like that
That will make our head spinning with a lot of information
Ehh wait does it true that it’s no longer a current lore?
iirc ash came in and debunked the prince existing, while confirming the king still exists
The king still exist.......but where is he.......that’s still our BIG question....
Welp. Let's go back to the "King became the Diamond" theory then!
@verbal iron ouh yeah about this picture
oh that's my theory
he stuffed the CoL in the diamond and then tried to merge with it as a last ditch attempt to stop the explosion
Please read the pin please Pyre
and then with the Winged Light, a fragment of the king remained
I think the CoL is the one we meet when we die in Eden tho
Sorry Pyre for troubling you
Since we get to interact with it
part connected, part indifferent
the connected have no cosmetics but can fly
the spirits can't fly but they do have cosmetics
we can do both
Indifferent maybe the old version of us...which is the light of child statues that will return to Megan
That's just the symbolism behind the two states of the skid
however, it appears the connected have an infinite amount of flying energy
Darkness represent indifferent. Light represents connection
The flame represents connection and probably still does in game tho
so even when we ascend, we still hold onto our "indifferent" part
what is the pin?
that's why when we ascend we're the only skids with cosmetics
Though that's from the old concept of the lore
the pin please?
flame still symbolizes connection, when we give the light back to the elders they're "reconnected" to megan
We also use the flames to see other players and creates new friends. It definitely still represents connection
Yeahhhhh I think about the Megan picture that S thing...I actually think it’s the S thing is for a nickname for Sky world....and that little hundreds line connected to that S thing represent from various country....so that S represent as Sky that connected to every player that plays it...then it ended with a flame on candle which u said it the connection....
whos megan????????????
whos megan????????????
@fossil oxide basically God
oh...
I assume you might be new?
yup
ah
today was my first rebirth
someone get thislore moff a document
megan is the canon light creature god
I’m pretty sure the statues in Eden are dead sky kids, like how we die when we go to eden, but we don’t completely die. Our bodies die and are corrupted (become statues) and our light is drained, but our souls are essentially all right, trapped within our own corpses, and go into a hibernation of sorts, until another sky kid comes along and starts spreading his winged light around. One of the statues their winged light reaches is us, and the reason we hug the light instead of just absorb is because when we are alive, the light is absorbed into our bodies, but here, the body is dead, so instead of just absorbing it, we use it as a vessel to get us to orbit so Megan can give us new bodies. We fuse with it. And when we’re in orbit, we’ve BECOME a winged light (we’re all glowey) but we still maintain our individuality (our silhouette stays the same).
My head canon
on the other hand we have karen, aka megakrill, my theoretical dark creature god
There's a chance when Ash said the "Prince" doesn't exist, it means the concept or idea of the King being the "Prince" once was discarded.
So the King was always the King
They could still be smol like in the concept
yeah
the king is megan?
king was always king
on the other hand we have karen, aka megakrill, my theoretical dark creature god
@mellow sable karen
KAREN?!!!😂😂
I can't
the king is 3 skids and a chibi in a trenchcoat
K-KAREN?!
I CAN JUST
She’s not a irritating aunties that just summoned us for her
the king is 3 skids and a chibi in a trenchcoat
@mellow sable Ah yes. More like 5 and a chibi
then if megan is god is the king is?? I thought like the king would be god...
Or was it four and a chibi?

I nÈÉD tÔ SpEĀK TO thE M A N A G E R!!
Was the concept of the CoL being the King still viable? Or was it jossed by TGC?
I could search it up here in Discord, but the search ain't working on this app rn
what does the king rule? is he alive? is he a god?
@fossil oxide the King should be like us but he is just hidden for now....as everyone here said that the king is the child that we hugged after we died in Eden
everywhere I go
I see his face
@mild lark did you already reposted that?
Aha, so my headcanon and theory survives
What what?
who are the good guys fighting in the battlefield???
@boreal nebula what do you mean?
the krill?
I just randomly searched up Niko for no reason at all
@boreal nebula almost like a song lyric
u know like in the golden wastelands
I’m pretty sure the statues in Eden are dead sky kids, like how we die when we go to eden, but we don’t completely die. Our bodies die and are corrupted (become statues) and our light is drained, but our souls are essentially all right, trapped within our own corpses, and go into a hibernation of sorts, until another sky kid comes along and starts spreading his winged light around. One of the statues their winged light reaches is us, and the reason we hug the light instead of just absorb is because when we are alive, the light is absorbed into our bodies, but here, the body is dead, so instead of just absorbing it, we use it as a vessel to get us to orbit so Megan can give us new bodies. We fuse with it. And when we’re in orbit, we’ve BECOME a winged light (we’re all glowey) but we still maintain our individuality (our silhouette stays the same).
My head canon
I do not believe the King is the shiny dude we hug in Eden
who were the soldiers fighting
Yeah that is the concept art where everyone is corrupted and fighting each other
Really?
in broken wasteland?
Yeah
they werent fighting the darkness?
@high bison really?
@fossil oxide ahh I’m sorry I don’t remember much
U should read the pins
@golden cave Well, it’s my current head cannon
If u using iPad slide to left
Ouh I don’t know
Click the person icon next to the search?
Maybe you can try slide it or in find every inch of your screen where is that pins are
Ouh yeahhh
Clickthe person up there?
@golden cave Well, it’s my current head cannon
I’m new to the lore channel so it might change
Ouh
My current headcanon is that the King was the Child of Light and was the one that united the stars (the other 6 Elders)
Hmmm my head spinning right now I should go....thanks....and please tell me what happen to the POOP CLUES!!!!
People started thinking it was the Green Light from Season of Enchantment, but I'm not sure if it really was that
there are new poop clues or is this repetition?
Not sure. I dont think there was more?
I’m still trying to figure out what ‘light’ and ‘darkness’ is. It seems to be a bit more complicated than at first glance...

So I'm not the only one who thinks the Krill came from the Whale?????
The Krill resembles the Whale the most. Particularly the head
I just think they’re like light and dark equivalents
True
That's what I thought originally too
But we barely see the Whale. Only three times. While there's A LOT of Krills
The three times we see the Whale might only be the same Whale everytime, meaning that there's only one
So what happened to the other Whales?
Are they special so there's only one? Or is there more to that...?
Poor Whale. The last of its species tho if that's the case...
where?
Maybe there was a time where light and dark didn’t exist, and there was a proto-krill/whale
Then when creatures started to evolve closer to the light or the dark, some of the proto-krill/whales evolved into whales and the others evolved into krill
Like they had the same ancestors
But crabs also headbut like krill and whale...
ARE CRABS JUST BABY KRILL?!

Well, I have a doc about a theory I made about Darkness, since you wondered if there's more to Light and Darkness
(I created the doc cause I had to explain it 3 times to different ppl in a single day, lol)
ARE CRABS JUST BABY KRILL?!
@high bisonbabey
I think Isle elder might still have his face therre
since Valley faces in Eden are side to side
I know I said this before, but I'm gonna mention it again cause not many payed attention because a lot was going on earlier
Notice how there was a halo of light around the King (maybe it was the King?)
It immediately disappears when the intro came into clear view, and then the words "But darkness came and the stars fell" followed afterwards
Looks more like the child of light.
Yep, I'm gonna get inti that for a sec
Not finished
I think something happened with the King that cause the stars to fall (Hinted with the first part of the intri where the King first losing its light halo and the stars falling afterwards)
Darkness is a word for "lack of light"
Also, there's also this too
Notice this?
- whispers *
lucifer theory
The star that was originally on the King's head or something from the first part appeared on the castle of Eden. We didn't see the King fall, but we see this "star" appear tho
Then there's us, who looks exactly like the King, but without the star part on the head
I think some event that happened with the King (that also led to the stars falling) caused the King to split in two.

The soul (seen appear on the castle of Eden) and the body (which would soon become us afterwards)
Which leads us into the "Mech theory"!
maybe not the king, but the CoL ?
the CoL could have split into the king and the prince since in some concepts they were separate beings
The Prince was said to not be in the current lore now. (Raf said it was confirmed by Ash)
the only “source” i found was the theory doc where the person cited wasn’t a dev
so i’m doubting that claim tbh
Also, I can't search rn cause this app is not letting me for some reason. Keeps saying there's a no results
Though that doesn't mean there's no sign of them rebunking it. They may have answered a question that resolves the Prince, but the answer didn't mention the Prince
Does it?
i’ve gone through their messages, no mention of the prince even if not by name
Oh, it works now for me
the prince’s status in canon is unclear as of now
The original Dropping of the Creb for refrence
https://youtu.be/2RnrgFhtD4w?t=353
@modest sequoia OMG, this video is amazing. There were lots of design choices I would dig ... the colors of the leading birdthe landscape of that tutorial Isle and the rendering of the textures of almost everything. Capes had a nice shade/gradient and the
shapes are more visible on the chest too.
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Also, NOT THE EMOTES..! 
Ill probably have to ask Raf again if I see them again
imma just say last time raf was saying this and i asked for sources they came up blank
Also now I get what Ktjn ment with darkplants = darkstones name thing
So take the “prince isn’t in canon” statement with a grain of salt
'Kay
Imma gonna continue with the King/Prince thing I was talking about
You know how there's the "Mech theory" where the big King was just the Prince in a mech or something?
I think that since the Soul and body of the Prince was split off far away, I think the Elders ended up creating a new body for the Prince since the soul has no body and it was far away from where the soul ended up
who's Raf\
ohh
At some point when the storm in Eden happened, the King's body got destroyed, leaving the soul of the Prince being in some limbo (the dark place where we find the CoL in Eden)
The Imprints of the Child of Light were the Imprints Prince's memories, and their light. Everytime our kid goes and collects it, the kid finds out what happened to their other half
The Megabird brought the body of the Prince to life, so that it could not only send the lost stars home, but to find its lost half
That's why everytime we also lose all our light in Sky before Eden, we always go to the dark place where we see a Winged Light. It's an imprint of our own memories, or the imprint of our lost soul that was left behind when we got split
The latter is probably more likely
Hmm
That's all for now I think
To sum it all up, some event caused the stars to fall and the Prince/King was split up into two, the soul became the King and was given a new body since the original was far away. The King "died" and the soul was left in limbo and the Megabird brought the Prince's original body to life to collect its memories, send the stars home and become the Prince again
Or the King. I like the idea of them being the same person
Also since the new body of the King was artificial, it was easily destroyed, even with the soul.
Our body is also as fragile without the original soul being there. The Prince/King probably could've survived Eden if both the soul and body was together
i love that theory butterfly
But that part's more of my own headcanon
Thanks
Oof, I realised the last part about the Prince/King if they're whole can survive better in Eden probably doesn't make sense after our first rebirth, lol
mm
i like these theories
makes my brain go 
I've always kinda wondered what this mini boat at prairie was
The spirit who supposedly lived there looks like he made pots
So why did he have a model boat?
his name is “sleeping shipwright” which literally means he makes ships
Hh
(not the romance kind :p)
no, you just haven’t memorized the names like me lmao
Do krill eat Butterfly?
@tribal pecan I think darkplants eat butterflies, after all if you're lucky to reach the GW spot in Bone Graveyard, the butterflies camp fire, you find a bunch of plant bulbs.
You burn them and butterflies get saved🦋
Also, on many cases, darkplants tend to grown on sealed butterflies Jars, trying to still their live force by exploiting their defenceless situation
Krills eat Us and Mantas
Dark Plants eat Butterflies and (IMHO) try to perpetually feed on tiny Mantas
Crab...? What do they eat? Tiny Jellyfish? 
i’m a bit obsessed, i don’t expect others to have my level of enthusiasm
So why does he have so many Pots then?
storage i guess
This would explain why we hardly see tiny jelly fish like the HF one (the only one giving just the 1 and just the first Wedge of light)
Mmmmaybe ships are fueled by butterflies or light of some kind, so he keeps them There until the ship is ready to sail
But it's strange... there are no crabs in that part of the Forrest

Maybe they're all gone. O.O
The ships were fueled by power diamonds, which behave like batteries 
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Lore chat is basically overanalyzing stuff, making crackpot theories and have one of them actually be true 

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Lore chat is basically overanalyzing stuff, making crackpot theories and have one of them actually be true
@kind bobcat this true though
Ooh, if a TGC staff comes, we should ask if there's a theory here that's canon! (Not asking if a specific theory is true, but if there's any theory we made that's close to the actual canon)
Or at least, if they themselves actually have anything that's canon
Cause maybe they don't have anything that's an actual storyline 
A question about this
What is the "indifferent" character?
Connection is wl, descendant is skids
Wait is connection wl?
Cause wl doesn't have a cape
And ooo I just noticed
Is this a Venn diagram?
Someone help ;-;
Well, it's only a concept of the lore.
Plus, that's not an Elder. It's an Ancestor. It just looks like the Isle Elder
Well, I think that's just us when we lose our light. Its the old version of us going dark without the light
Indifferent is just the symbolism behind it
Is this a concept art?
Ohhh, okay
In the scrapped timeline, Elders were simply Ancestors who the Prince had chosen to be his court
and so for a while they were called Ancestors
even after that concept was scrapped
I see
Sky Light Awaits [iOS iPhone] Gameplay Part 34 - Solo Man Eye of Eden - YouTube
Was this a pre-release alpha or something?
do we know anything about the king
/we know
/he's important, he exist, he probably got sth to the downfall of the kingdom, there's a ton of statues of him so he's probably a figure of importance
/he probably has a son
and he cannot be saved
oh god he has a son?
wh—
/oh yea that's important i forgot
I don't think the king has a son 
if you’re referring to the prince...i don’t think there was ever a concept where the prince was the king’s son
But there was a concept whete the prince IS the king.
there’s quite a few concepts like that
and there’s also concepts where they’re separate people, but it doesn’t seem to be a father-son thing going on
/oh
/nice
/crackpot theory: probably because of the diamonds he didnt went through puberty
w h a t
i believe the king to be a megalomaniac 14 year old for different reasons
i'll pretend i didn't see that, i am looking away. 👁️ 👄 👁️
/crackpot theory: probably because of the diamonds he didnt went through puberty
@gilded fossil never occurred to me but sci can explain too lol. If he is made of light (or some part of him is) then the diamond can act similar to how chemicals affect our hormones soo....
/old adult royal man concept art
the way i saw it, he was made a child and never grew up
the way skids don’t grow up
please, please no, not this topic. 
/where's the concept art where he broke his voice and attend prom
The elders are genderless
what ?
/oh yea
we know, goob
but they are meant to represent certain types of adult, so they likely have pre-determined mental ages
/where's the concept art where he broke his voice and attend prom
/okay but can i still have the concept art where he attend prom
he what
what are you talking about, Jen
Jen i can't tell whether you're joking or you're serious about Alef not hitting puberty which should be IMPOSSIBLE for him since elders do not age nor have genders
@wary barn #screenshots-and-videos ?
why do you say they don't have genders and you refer to the king as a he lol
Jen i can't tell whether you're joking or you're serious about Alef not hitting puberty which should be IMPOSSIBLE for him since elders do not age nor have genders
@kind bobcat /im joking hahaha![]()
not the prom tho
pronouns ≠ gender but we don’t have time for that discussion again
i’ve said this too many times at this point
jesus sOrrY
King is wide thats all thats matters
/why is he so wide tho?
asserting dominance
Also very tall
/powerdiamonds makes him tall?
between 17 feet and 67 feet
/wait lemme go get my converter
Wow what .. I thought he was 17'4
dépends on thé concept you’re looking at
/maybe the notes was to :Draw king very big
I’m not sure, the person measuring didn’t specify
/guys he's like 500 cm oh my
/cries in average asian height
Lol
When I see king.. I usually imagine him talking like Samuel Hayden on doom... Idk he give me that I'm super cool vibe
Goodnight bricky!
you should see how we voiced him
OHOHOOO
Brick
BEFORE I SLEEP
Back to sneep
What?
/bricky?
Am I missing something?
i’ll dm it to you two, if that’s alright with you
Cool DM me
/yooooo yess
See ya brick.
Bye bye!
/guys how is sunny forest stay sunny
/what stopping them from the rain??
/is it a very large room then?
Rain come from cloud and the cloud is bright
/filled with light?
It makes sense that the clouds have light, since we can charge from them
I guess that would also explain why rain drains our light. They're from dark clouds.
but dont dark clouds also charge us ?
Yes, all clouds recharge us.
True
/aaaaaaargh
/why cant we figure out the most basic thing in this game
/water here has so many propoties
This doesn't really have anything to do with the lore but I'm curious. The hide and seek spirit was found in a cave, and that got me thinking, was she hiding there thinking that the hide and seek game is still going? Without knowing that she and everyone else was dead?
Actually, do any of the spirits realize their dead when you first found them? I'm surprised I haven't found anyone talking about the location of this particular spirit.
/maybe cause it's more like a memory
When you relieve the spirit you actually seeing what they do when they were alive.. it not that they know at that exact time they're a spirit.
Wait thats confusing
/i really would like to know why these particular spirits gets to be spirits
The spirit memories may or may not be their final moments.
But seeing that their corpses/stone bodies are at the exact same place the memory ends
It probably was.
Hmm why is it that they died at that exact moment tho
But seeing that their corpses/stone bodies are at the exact same place the memory ends
@kind bobcat /man imagine the last thing you do was a good hide and seek game

My main explanation for this is eden exploded and what we see is one second or less before it just completely wiped out all living things
/well i feel bad for cry spirit
/never got to file a report for better working conditions
Also I think that when eden exploded.. it just turn the whole realm into ashes.. meaning that it was a burning hell. But as time goes one living things repopulate the area and it seem like nothing happened
Because is just the case with the meteorite that ended the dinasour
Although the ruins doesnt seem scorched though 
It probably was a shockwave that killed the spirits.
What kind? I have no idea
And apparently it only affected the spirits, and not the light creatures
Not the Shockwave
Personally i think there was never any heat.
It probably was a shockwave that killed the spirits.
/i like theory that deep call= shockwave.
/what if someone made us purposfully to destroy the spirts
Just a massive mystical shockwave that killed any spirits that got hit by it.
Yes, something like a very large deep call.
But it flips spirits to the point they die 
No like sometime big explosion give so much heat that it raise up the temperature up to 90 to 100°C... Not that the realm is burning.
Not sure if this belongs here but when we are releasing the manta in forest why doesnt it charge us? any specific reason?
The heat from the eden crystal fracture, assuming there was any, could've been diffused far before it hit any realms.
it does charge u
Plus, even the closer areas to eden dont seem to be scorched.
Uuuh because the manta's energy has been sucked out? Idk
Oh yeah it does that I forgot... Cries in can't play the game anymore
oh? It didnt charge me today (I dont remember before)
they produce v small honks so the recharge isnt that strong
or maybe i just didnt pay enough attention lol
they produce v small honks so the recharge isnt that strong
@tender dune oh ok
i usually hang with them and they love circling us
thanks :)
np 
Alright, let me explain to you how i think the eden explosion happened. Eden released a shockwave or something that is like a negative honk/anti-honk that takes away the light of the ancestors, which killed them.
the shock wave theory will mean that isle of dawn doesnt have spirits cause its pretty far from Eden right?
The shockwave might have been powerful enough it reached isle.
@kind bobcat thats makes sense but what abt the other creatures?
My interpretation of the eden explosion is more like a heatwave..
The shockwave might have been powerful enough it reached isle.
@kind bobcat wont it cause more damage in valley in that case
Oof imagine eden mountain's honk
More of a huge massive honk of death
More like thanos snap for me
The connection of the ancestors to light are lesser than the creatures, so probably the shockwave crippled the creatures but not kill them.
you should have gone for the head
Woooooosh
Wait a minute.. so you said that eden take all the light away?
Well, not all, most of it.
So does that mean the shooting beam is all the dead spirit and mantas

Explains some of the deactivated machinery which are powered by power diamonds.
that makes a lot of sense
I kinda wonder if the huge diamond at eden is some kind of weapon of mass destruction
Look too cool not to lol
well, some theories support that 
I think I read once the theory about all doors & windows shape to be a King Proganda...
But I think it's just the usual representation Elders & Ancestors used for their kind(s). After all, every tombstone (beside the miners) you can see has that shape
Only Lamed (Vault's Elder) bears a rectangular shaped one, but that could be a remnant of the old beta )as I think I saw they used to be like thar, even the Twins' tombstone
even in home the realms are shaped like that 
Mostly. Yeah
I once though it was a Butterfly Jar shape. But now I can't unsee it to be a battery shape
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/lol imagine they got plug into a toy


What is battery shaped?
@high bison I can try. The idea is that the king is a bit of a legend or ideal. A Propoganda, if you will. Someone (Megan?) began advertising a larger than life version of the prince, either for control or because of misunderstandings.
This ideal became associated with the crown, while the person Aleph actually was became disconnected.
That would not release Aleph from the responsibilities of the crown, just make the expectations more unreasonable.
Aleph, disconnected from his constillation, would need a new one, and adopted his cape as his symbol durring times where he was less than the king. The stars in the sky were never informed, but on the ground, cape meant the prince.
Come Eden's destruction, the elders and spirits decide to seal off the realm. They agree to make Aleph the key to reopen it, and use the symbol he adopted rather than the symbol the stars assigned him.
Time passes and we are formed from Aleph's energy. Being tied to his actual identity, we form on the symbol that actually represents him, and are able to access the gate that uses the symbol that represents who he actually was, while the stars and story we are told in the vault are tied to the person he was expected to be. (Perhaps Lamed's presentation references this as a small mercy towards Aleph - the crown is used to provide an opportunity for Aleph, and us, to decide not to be either the one we were expected to be nor the person Aleph became trying to be them. But that's tangent.)
The stars do not recognise this change in identity, and continue to treat Aleph, and Us as the king figure.
Since the concepts art are no longer official canon in the current game, it opens up a whole new line of thinking and exploring of the king. I present an idea that serves as an extension to Null'
Nulls

It helps that it's no longer past my bedtime XD
aleph?
lamed?
i just learned megan and karen
how many of these word are there
what do they mean?
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do animals in sky reproduce?
do they die?
if i wait long enough will the krill theoretically go extinct?
are the krill robotic?
/good question actually
the krill are probably robotic...
then the mantas will eventually destroy the ecosystem in the daylight prairie because they obviously reproduce and there are no natural predators
what do mantas eat?
Oh and since the stars(?) were driven from eden because of the darkness the kingdom of sky is probably less like the galactic republic and the separatists and more like the imperium of man and the xenos...
i believe its not a civil war that ravaged wasteland but rather an invasion
just in case i am sounding super stupid right now am i missing something?
in the grim darkness of the golden wasteland there is only war
... Yeah, me. You lost me somewhere.
Mantas do have predators though: Krill, and dark plants (Krill are confirmed natural creatures, and we see mantas trapped in dark plants in the forest)
We have no hints as to a manta's diet, only guesses, so I cannot answer your question
I have no idea what you are referencing bc I do not have a lot of experience with movie cultire.
first daylight prairie doesnt have krill and i dont think it ever will
and also the refferences are 1. StarWars, 2. Warhammer 40k
theyre both actually quite famous
references
- True, but all light creatures appear to need to make a migration towards Eden, so it's plausable that material gets transfered back that way through secondary means.
- Never engaged with Warhammer 40K so...

you do know it though right?
and what do the animals do in eden
||does the ball just keep getting bigger?||
of animals
you know...
the one u see at the end...
The king statues and references around the game are an exaggeration or idyllic view of the prince, a caricature if you will. It may be that the prince was rarely seen and their presence were limited to the elders. The king's statue is then by induction the imagination or envisioning of the prince and their power indoctrinated among the ancestor spirits.
The strange piece that seems to not fit within this theory is the isle elder Daleth does not participate to seal the gate to eden yet the realm of isle contain many attributions to the prince (king), while the vault elder Lamed is shown as the central keystone on the gate of eden, but we see no direct reference or allusions to the king in the vault of knowledge. (I haven't thought of a substantial follow-up to explain it)
Based on Null's interpretation that we, the sky children, are formed from the energies of the prince, it seems unconventional that in the memories/cutscenes of the elders, they seem to be unaware of that we are the crown's descendants. Except when Lamed shows us the projections of each constellation, we begin to see the uneasiness of Lamed, as if they know our true identity. Essentially, the hesitation of Lamed opens a whole new can of worms implying that all the elders in their cutscene do know our identity as to associated with the crown, then their hostility and behavior could very well be tied to what occurred to prince and eden.
Finally, we see the all of the elders bow/kneel down toward us after the projection of the vault, the method which Samekh and Tsadi kneels down resembles that of the bows of a warrior, the difference stances each elder take could signify their degree of reverence and regrets, I have not deciphered all of the stances fully though.
That is all for now
like so we are like the primarchs?
or the space marines!!!!
i personally think lambdaw and null are kinda reaching though it kinda makes sense
so then the king is narrarating in the sky intro
right?
i also dont get how the animals are migrating to eden since the portals are the only way there...
if what i just said was right, the mantas mostly feed on darkness plants or some kind of invisible floating plankton(?) since that is the only common feature of realms that support manta life
If the prince had a king identity that was nothing like him, why would he need to be hidden away at all? Aleph could likely walk through Valley and not be recognised. Probably a huge benefit if you're trying to keep an eye on the state of a kingdom.
As for Lamed being keystone... I can see it. Someone knowledgable would need to draw our constellation and make the gates/barriers. Tsadi probably also knew though, and may have been prepared to protect the vault from us... Until we choose to make a peace offering instead of showing literally any aggression.
can you make a sign of agressin at all?
As for the portals being the only way to Eden... Most light creatures we see are far better at flight than us. They could easily have a different route.
hmmm
Birds fly through the Eden pipes. Whales hop through clouds. Mantas may have a higher path than we know about.
ohhhhhhhh
For light creatures to have a different route to Eden is not a stretch. They're different from us, so why would they not travel differently?
... I so do not understand
Repeating will not help
why does it keep doing this
How do mantas get to Eden 
maybe the mantas come from eden
higher path rememb?er
Jellies I guess live there, but mantas are travelers 
theory
Likely they fly above the clouds.
that was what kept coming out in korean
We see them do a lot of high flying
theory
so theoretically if i catch a manta and stick with it it will get me all the way to edn?
Oh, right, evolution has taught them to avoid giant swirling vortexes of doom 
someone plz test this
Unlike us
so only mantas with a natural aversion to whirl pools have survived
Probably not Pyre. In cannon you could possibly ride one all the way, but it wouldn't be a thing in game
I like that theory 
Never seen talk about Sky evolution 
u know the over cloud oob in eden?
Also from a gamedesign standpoint it wouldn't be ideal if you could just take a bus to the end of the game

there are no mantas above the coluds there so it would be right to assume they never make it to eden
is arya from got?
GOT
There’s a manta in Orbit, so I would assume they ascended somehow
Whats the evolution chart for all these creatures like? What's the missing link between us and mantas 
Arya is my first online username and it was based on the inheritance cycle/eragon
I'm not even into these books anymore but I kept the username bc I'm used to it
Did we decend from the same species even? 
I like to think of creatures and skykids as simply things that spawned independently from each other and came from the light
Or that megabird gave life to everything
There’s one concept art that seems to imply, if not outright state, that megabird is a sort of creator
The devs have said that mantas come from light and you can see them spawning from the clouds
Krill as lion
butterfly as a tiny mouse
@edgy sequoia then this reaction sticker...
is the Fairtale of The Lion And The Tiny Mouse
↔️ 🦁 🐁
Candles Darwin: The Origin of Skycies 
@verbal iron but because they do not have a natural predator they should still be a lot of them if they are an invasive species
@hushed steeple I think theyhave natural predators under our nose, but we don't notice in daily candle runs
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/748480695781031936
that makes sense
we need a sort of food chain - might help explain
Krills attack skid + manta
Dark Plants feed on butterflies + small mantas?
Crab attacks skid + jellyfish (cause in sanctuary both the chill crabs and jellyfish coexist so the ones that attack might hv eaten up the jelly fish)
jellyfish(?) + manta attack crabs? (iirc not seen manta and crab in the same place)
Personally I think we have yet to see all species. There could be species that only are active at night
true but that means we should be seeing day and night cycles in all realms ?
Not if the journey from isle to vault is always completed in the span of one day
i love trying to think about how time works in sky... you could stay in prairie all day and it'll never become night-time. assuming it's not a game-mechanic, i wonder what it means
Megan
Alternative: we are also in time-out and thus what we can visit is time locked while we are there
I like the alternative but what if time doesnt really exist at all
Well if you guys talking about time... The time of each realm wasn't always been like this
hi i just wanted to know like what happened after the battle in gw battlefield? like did they win and krill went back after a long time or did they lose and krills just lived there since?
what if whatever killed the spirits also stopped time
Well if you guys talking about time... The time of each realm wasn't always been like this
@hushed steeple
Maybe....
Sof new here?
hi i just wanted to know like what happened after the battle in gw battlefield? like did they win and krill went back after a long time or did they lose and krills just lived there since?
@deft spear The war couldn't have ben fougth against Krill, they would just fly above the battlements
they didn’t seem to have any weapons to use against krill or whales, so most of us think it was a war between ancestors
And just want to let you guys know ... In yawn emote spirit memory it's showing a prairie at night time
oh oki... bye-bye to the no time theory then
Here
Look at the window👀
ooh true
never paid attention to that much detail
the time destroyed theory still works tho ig?
And here... It's from belonging season end cutscene
the time destroyed theory still works tho ig?
It seems the time has been stopped
So it's ..
Unsure if allowed here but - I have a question about an ||oob and a photo of it||
Oobs, and any live content relating to lore are ok here
would love to visit night time prairie and sunny Forest
Spoiler not needed here
But that may be a #questions-and-help question, not a lore question
It seems the time has been stopped
@hushed steeple This is nightmare fuel, We need time to move through space, we, this, I just can't
Oh that .. i can help you.. .... Dm
Actually this channel is for discussing game stories and lore
@fiery drift
Home space do changes time btw
Home space do changes time btw
@hushed steeple right forgot about that for a min
Bricky has a theory on it... Why the time isn't fixed in home like other realms
I'll check it out
Bricky has a theory on it... Why the time isn't fixed in home like other realms
@hushed steeple
Thanks for heads up @hushed steeple I deleted my comment
i dont think this is count as theory, but is it true that the season of belonging spirits are a family?
Yeah! The seasons story is about a family reconnecting. I think TGC talked about it a few times, perhaps in a livestream
yeah, that theory popped up in here too, right down to the word choice of "mech"
@orchid crypt (wild idea just popped in my mind) what if those aren't King's statues (for propaganda) but are Mech for tiny Ancestors to their part in defending the Vault Of Knowledge?
After all I think we can spotted them only quite near the temple and then just in Eden (destroyed) perhaps because they tried to push forward and attack/mission to reconquest they Red Diamond
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/748126375013122158/FyseIMX.png
isn't this ancient concept something very close to what TGC's Flower later had become? (I just saw very little about that game, but I think it was their second game, after Journey)
Flower came out 3 years before journey!


the landscape of that tutorial Isle and the rendering of the textures of almost everything. Capes had a nice shade/gradient and the
shapes are more visible on the chest too. 

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