Btw
#lore-discussion-spoilers
compact olive
hushed steeple
The best oob for lore is vault elder cutscene oob
compact olive
So who spoke to the devs about Oob use and file use ?
mild lark
King body size is twice the wasteland elders height right?
hushed steeple
That's only oob that has lore stuffs i think
tender dune
not me oz, i asked the devs about crabs and they havent replied yet 
mild lark
Maybe busy doing stuff
delicate coral
I was under the impression that looking through the files and stuff was against the terms of service, and that’s why people shouldn’t have been doing it
Nothing about going oob in the TOS though
tender dune
i mean, if bricky didnt oob in stormlock then we wouldnt have seen the mysterious body because we're too focused looking at the rocks and statues
gray bridge
oo yes true
compact olive
I’m not against Oob lol I love Oob.
mild lark
What is that body anyway?
lethal stump
we don’t know
tender dune
lethal stump
we’re still theorizing
tender dune
i had an idea before i slept yesterday but the only missing link for my theory is why would wasteland go to war
too lazy to type a paragraph rn
compact olive
I am trying to understand why one form of lore hunting is restricted but the other is okay as they are both using methods the game was not intended to be used for to gather information.
mild lark
Or maybe defending it?
lethal stump
you can’t right now, Mo
surreal helm
its been done mah friend
@tender dune oh that's good. No numerical value tho? Hebrew alefbet has numerical value.. could have special meaning, but eh, haha
lethal stump
the values are in the picture......
tender dune
the numerical value was very random @surreal helm so i guess its the meaning thats more important.
lethal stump
look beside the letter names
surreal helm
Aaah, got that
tender dune
So like i was curious about the elder names and i
isle: daleth 4th letter
prairie: ayin 16th letter
forest: teth 9th letter
valley: samekh 15th letter
wasteland: tsadi 18th letter
vault: lamed 12th letter
Prince/Corrupt King: alef 1st letter /resh 20th letter
here u go @surreal helm
delicate coral
I am trying to understand why one form of lore hunting is restricted but the other is okay as they are both using methods the game was not intended to be used for to gather information.
@compact olive I think that unintentional does not necessarily need to be equated to bad. I would reason that the only reason looking through the files is bad is because it is explicitly against the TOS, not because it’s an unintended way to find info.
mild lark
I think the lore difficulty of this game is hardcore. Like we barely know any stuff(tbh)
I know that some theory was made some of it is pretty logical.
Do you guys know little nightmare? Yeah the community is like very passionate about getting that game's lore. Even tho it is hard. It is not hardcore like sky. So I think if we struggle finding the lore of this game. It just basic hardcore stuff.
runic zenith
Sky's lore interests me so I decided to hop on this channel
i have no idea what anyone is talking about
mild lark
Check the pins for cool lore stuff!
runic zenith
Ooh
lethal stump
Hello, new Lore Moff, welcome to Lore Chat !
- Check the pins for concept art, canon information, and common theories
- All theories are welcome !
- Let your mind run free, the story has been left vague for us to make for ourselves
Here for the elder names ?
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
Enjoy your stay in Lore Chat !
surreal helm
the numerical value was very random @surreal helm so i guess its the meaning thats more important.
@tender dune oh not really, it's part of the gemateia... Alphanumeric assignment of the letters, so each really correspond to a number... Hence why some people can calculate the numerical equivalent value of a word or name, sort of
Gematria
tender dune
ah, i dunno what that even is
surreal helm
Sorry can't spell
Hmmm... Lemme wiki that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria#:~:text=Gematria (%2F%C9%A1%C9%99%CB%88m,depending%20on%20the%20cipher%20used.
tender dune
interesting
runic zenith
so much pinned messages
I must see them all
wispy canopy
Hey guys what I miss
runic zenith
wispy canopy
Hey clay and teth
lethal stump
oh eden more ways to spell Tsadi 
tender dune
still here bud
wispy canopy
Glad to hear that bud
surreal helm
Sometimes tsadi the letter is called tsadik, which means saint or righteous man in hebrew
lethal stump
runic zenith
Who's prince and corrupt king?
lethal stump
Who’s the King ?
The King is the presumed monarch of the Sky Kingdom. He is important to the lore, and is in game, just not in the way you’d expect. Most information about him comes from the concept arts and devs, so there’s lots of room for your personal headcanons.
Who’s the Prince ?
The Prince may or may not be canon. He was a very prominent, important character in the concept arts, so many people believe he is in game much like the King is.
surreal helm
And reish... Resh... Is like the first letter of evil, tov v'ra (good and evil)
lethal stump
why are you guys laughing at it 
surreal helm
Oh my ahahaha
runic zenith
tender dune
proves how many ppl are repeating the same questions enough to copypasta xD
lethal stump
gray bridge
all hail king bricky brikson 
tender dune
short owl
Maybe we need a way to give Skybot the ability to do usermade copypastas
wispy canopy
runic zenith
ThatSkyLore
gray bridge
one day™️
wispy canopy
ThatSkyLore
@runic zenith
That should be the name for this server
runic zenith
:D
tender dune
Forest top seems to be made of diamonds (Can't go higher it will reset the map)
lethal stump
seems so
hushed steeple
Remove the reset wall
tender dune
u think the butterflies change color from yellow to pink because we're draining their light/life force away? (or its giving a bit of its life/lightforce to us)
is that why krills and crabs are red colored (no light in them - dark creatures)
proven sigil
I mean, when they charge us/help us fly, they turn bright yellow before going dim
mild lark
Any explanation on why the shiny boi at point of no return is like relaxing?
lethal stump
all of the stars in that hallway are in different poses i think
tender dune
maybe they gave up after seeing stormlock? (in despair)
hushed steeple
Relax ... Next area is peaceful
mild lark
Maybe it is peaceful before it exploded.. who knows
compact olive
What imprint are the star children ?
Bricky you had said something almost a week back maybe about the star children being someone imprint ? (Maybe I’m misremembering )
gilded fossil
/imprint???
compact olive
And what is the Child of Light
lethal stump
we don’t know
compact olive
(Where did we get the canon name?)
compact olive
I have. It’s huge. And the links need to be organized a little lol
So we know their canon name but we don’t know exactly what they are
Any theories ?
short owl
If it be prince, I think those were moments where he was trying to recover before rushing in AGAIN to try to fix the mess he made
lethal stump
my theory goes
CoL = prince = king = us
and i stand by that
mild lark
So we are king
short owl
Which causes him to fail, leaving behind more stone and memory bound energy
compact olive
Reincarnated I believe, sMiley
tender dune
So we are king
thats bricky's theory
short owl
I believe we are king prison
hushed steeple
I like that skykids are king theory
mild lark
a game theo-
compact olive
Aleph, in Jewish mysticism, represents the oneness of God.
mild lark
While my theory is like king is big.. that's all
compact olive
If Aleph was a place holder name for the prince then maybe this is why we see the sKids coming from the symbol representing the 7th elder
Aka prince Aleph
gilded fossil
/so we like the king but cut into pieces or sth?
/connect with ourselves by light and candles
lethal stump
personally, there’s only one skid canonically, so it’s just the king’s soul in a new body
but that’s my headcanon
compact olive
Gods Sending their children to save the day is a common theme in the world
hushed steeple
Alef or aleph?👀
lethal stump
in the concepts it’s spelt Alef
mild lark
Fly and phly
compact olive
Alef also means oneness with god
mild lark
Kinda weird that there is no mention of angel when religion is included.
Isn't there any kind of angel in this game?
tender dune
megan?
short owl
Aleph probably was more ripped into pieces and split across the world than cut
Much more violent since it was bc of crystal and not actually Megan's fault that time
mild lark
Wait is this credit scene contribute anything to lore?
lethal stump
yes, thats Megabird !
glad forge
I think its Megabird
mild lark
Is that just small part of it or?
tender dune
unknown
compact olive
The sky kids light comes directly from the same star that represent Aleph/Alef
lethal stump
because we’re Alef
glad forge
I dont think anyone knows how Megabird looks
lethal stump
Megabird looks like that picture that Smiley just sent
mild lark
Only concept art
short owl
's prison as they watch us go week after week through Eden without actually healing the crystal
mild lark
That has full picture of megabird
compact olive
Then I think I can confirm reasonably that Bricky is right about the Child of light being the Prince/us
mild lark
wait king is us?
Always has been
compact olive
(Rummaging through photos)
lethal stump
short owl
The prince would be pretty powerful as a being right? What if we're wrong that they are us because they're actually the beacon?
mild lark
Wait is that krill?
hushed steeple
I love sky lore memes
mild lark
Yeah I know
lethal stump
The prince would be pretty powerful as a being right? What if we're wrong that they are us because they're actually the beacon?
kinda depends on how you interpret his creation and fall
I believe he was made very godly, but when he fell his wings light was taken along with his powers
short owl
The prince could have turned himself into a gateway for creatures of light and others to escape Horizon, and jettisoned part of himself to find someone to lead the way for others
lethal stump
but, thats just my headcanon, theres likely many more
tender dune
Out of topic report (sry for intruding) the manta in praire is different from the sanc manta (this one is much bigger and doesn't have 3 pairs of horns)
The sparkly stones of prayer temple praire compared to the broken tower/pipe in eden (eden's is red)
mild lark
Manta like to launch me into the space
mild lark
Lol sometimes it help me go faster
glad forge
Ugh, I think this thing in Eden is the Vault tower, right?
compact olive
The image of the narrator is the same image (Gold light instead of blue) as the sky kid image. Implying heavily they are also a child “of light”
The head of the image of the narrator also lands on the Eden castle image heavily imply it also represents the 7th elder.
The prince/king
tender dune
cant see so dark
glad forge
That big high blurry thing In backround
topaz girder
ah, its too blurry
glad forge
I sadly cant make better pic because of the wind
tender dune
it ok
topaz girder
its alright
mild lark
Don't you guys think that the king body trying to look like a 🕯️?
compact olive
The candle shoes the wall mural Smiley.
topaz girder
shoes
tender dune
Don't you guys think that the king body trying to look like a 🕯️?
more like its trying to look like megan's mountain
compact olive
It implies that like sKids the narrator also has (or is ) the red candle too
topaz girder
megan's mountain?
mild lark
new unlogical theories... King is just a big candle
compact olive
The narrator speaks for many. (Lol king HAS candle)
“Bring our lost stars home”
glad forge
I tried to make the image It brighter, hope its a better result.
Its still blurry as something
tender dune
its possible lasi, in which part is this?
mild lark
Lasi maybe you can oversaturate that photo so that we can see some outline..
A possible solution
Maybe
glad forge
Its when you climb up the pipe, from here head up and look back
tender dune
awh
compact olive
I believe Vault is located beneath eden’s location. Perhaps that is another castle/tower in Eden?
tender dune
dunno if i wanna climb that far, so its possible its the vault
hushed steeple
Actually you can see Vault's top from 1st area
topaz girder
what pipe...
compact olive
The out of bounds for the end of vault shows vault’s top ends at the gates of Eden
hushed steeple
Maybe that's as well
compact olive
Lasi, perhaps you found one of the king’s towers?
topaz girder
picture of vault's top
glad forge
Woah, I didnt think about the king tower
tender dune
ofcoursethegamecrashedwhenitrytotakeaproperingamepicture
mild lark
Oof
topaz girder
also is this the door u were talking about, oz?
mild lark
Is that what you trying to show @glad forge ?
glad forge
Yes Smiley thanks!
hushed steeple
Maybe that's... Or maybe not
mild lark
Oh boi.. I'm going to sleep. Next day is a painful day. Goodnight!
topaz girder
oh i gotta sleep too-
thanks for reminding me smiley, and gnight
compact olive
In the intro, The sky kid is told by narrator to “bring our lost stars home” as a star imbues it with light/wing power
This defines a few things.
A) the narrator leads (or is one of) the stars
B) the sky kid is either a star as well (bring our lost stars home) or is a part of the star’s “team”
C) the narrator is the star above Eden.
compact olive
So the narrator must be the 7th elder
hushed steeple
Umm but 7th elder means the king... Who corrupted...
I feel like the narrator is Megan
compact olive
The 7th elder doesn’t only mean the king. That would lock it in a definitive time restraint. To be corrupted one must have first been uncorrupted
glad forge
Megan saves the world
compact olive
The 7th elder (and the reason I didn’t say “king”) was to represent all aspects of the life cycle of the star above eden
lethal stump
thats
that’s just megabird then..?
glad forge
Maybe the star in Eden is just the sun
compact olive
I don’t know bricky, there could be a “trinity” type of thing going on there
lethal stump
you’re describing megabird
that’s what it sounds like to me
but afawk, megabird isn’t considered an elder
compact olive
I don’t know if Megabird is exactly what I’m meaning to describe. But it could be a part of it.
The visuals are clear.
There’s a child who has a light in the center of all of the stars and is the brightest of those 7 stars. That star (the brightest one) is in Eden the same way the lesser stars (6 elders) are over their respective fortress/towers.
The same bright star gives life/light to sky kid
I’m trying to make sense of this imagery
It says “United”
The narrator says “United our light was infinite” at this point.
If you flip this image upside down, combined all of the stars in the image look like Megabird
Maybe it’s only Megabird when they are all United?
lethal stump
but how do we see megabird at the end, when the CoL/Prince/King/us legit can’t join the elders ?
compact olive
The devs said the 7th elder couldn’t be saved. What was the exact phrasing they used?
glad forge
Perhaps we united them somehow
lethal stump
« The Eden Elder isn’t around to be saved anymore »
we can’t unite them without the eden elder, and that elder cannot be saved
compact olive
“The Eden Elder isn’t around to be saved anymore “
I find that use of wording very interesting
Follow me down this line of thinking...
Isn’t around.
Not there
Not present
glad forge
He is on vacation
compact olive
To be saved anymore
Meaning they could have been saved. But not anymore.
hushed steeple
He's in Mario world
compact olive
So there are two reasons (that stick out in my mind) why the 7th elder couldn’t “be saved anymore”
The first one is I think the one everyone in here initially thinks of
Couldn’t be saved anymore
Because they no longer exist
Dead?
Destroyed, obliterated ? Right?
But.......
What if the reason the 7th elder is no longer around to be saved anymore because...they were already saved......?
glad forge
Here is my list of posibilities why he isnt here to be saved anymore:
1 He dead
2 He on vacation
3 He is corrupted that bad that we cant save him
4 He already is saved
5 He left the kindom
lethal stump
6 He’s us, and we can’t be saved either
compact olive
The light from the sky kid clearly comes from the 7th elder’s Star
Yes Bricky
Precisely
We’re not here to save ourselves. We are sacrificing ourselves to save the others
And if we are (or are of) the 7th elder then our sacrifice is what brings unity to all of the other stars (elders)
We are correcting our own mistakes
That’s why we join with the “child of light” at the end (hug child in pre-orbit)
We become one
We become “full”
Whole
And our oneness
(Ah, those who know the alef thing come on..references!)
Our oneness completes the Megabird
radiant lava
Hi im new to lore, i heard about this star headed spirit but never knew what they are, can someone tell me
Or should I ask in a different channel?
lethal stump
Hello, new Lore Moff, welcome to Lore Chat !
- Check the pins for concept art, canon information, and common theories
- All theories are welcome !
- Let your mind run free, the story has been left vague for us to make for ourselves
Here for the elder names ?
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
Enjoy your stay in Lore Chat !
are you talking about these guys ?
lethal stump
Who’s the King ?
The King is the presumed monarch of the Sky Kingdom. He is important to the lore, and is in game, just not in the way you’d expect. Most information about him comes from the concept arts and devs, so there’s lots of room for your personal headcanons.
Who’s the Prince ?
The Prince may or may not be canon. He was a very prominent, important character in the concept arts, so many people believe he is in game much like the King is.
some info 
radiant lava
Thank you!
compact olive
#Alef=onenessWithGodChildofLightHug=onenessWithMegabird
(The 2nd longest hashtag in hashtag history?)
We are the prince
Or rather the prince was a part of us
Bricky can you add “alef = oneness with god in Hebrew/Jewish mysticism” to that intro you give Lore moffs and then add like a “mic drop” gif to it
And like an atom bomb or nuclear explosion gif.
compact olive
I’m only joking around lol
lethal stump
no ones headcanons, even mine, will make it into the intro blurb
compact olive
But what do you think about the oneness with god theory?
lethal stump
Seems plausible
I think of it in terms of Alef being an archangel of sorts, but to each their own
compact olive
Well that’s the great thing about the ideology of judaeo-Christian Gods...
To have oneness with their God doesn’t only imply being God. It could be an Angel
wispy canopy
Hey bricky and oz, I'm back with final report of the day
compact olive
Angels are actually “messengers” and messengers in the Talmud actually closely mean “the voice of”
wispy canopy
Wanna hear
lethal stump
yes, please Infinity
compact olive
Wb iKing
short owl
Brick
compact olive
Now thats what I call Can(n)on
short owl
Where did you get the budget for this
wispy canopy
This is the shield of the elder
This is another shield different design
There is possibility that these are 2 gros that fought here
Seems to be a shut gate at shipwreck
compact olive
Reminds me of a dam (the water levels Reika was talking about)
cold steppe
oh true
lethal stump
yes, I live by a canal/shipyard, those are used for boats to go up/downhill
wispy canopy
Those skulls could be dead Sea life creatures that existed before
cold steppe
though a dam may make more sense
wispy canopy
At graveyard
lethal stump
myself, Syd, Blue, and Kukubi were hanging around there last night and theorized that graveyard was once a reservoir
wispy canopy
It is
cold steppe
the only thing is the spirits
cold steppe
with that theory, are you saying that the spirit memories were after the reservoir was drained?
wispy canopy
On the other side should be graveyard
lethal stump
yes i am, Wren
lethal stump
im betting it dried up, leaving nothing but the denser, polluted water at the bottom
cold steppe
hmm, could be a possibility
wispy canopy
There is gate in graveyard that shoves forcefully into shipwreck
This could be underwater piping
lethal stump
delta p
wispy canopy
Delta p?
compact olive
#ReikasDam
lethal stump
Differentiating pressure
compact olive
So they were pumping the manta sludge into the sea
As seen by the pipes and possible water levels
lethal stump
when there’s a narrow opening (like a pipe) funnelling water away, the pressure in/outside is different
this creates a vacuum which would pull you into the pipe extremely quickly and will not let you out
the common procedure if someone gets caught by Delta p and no one knows proper safety to save them is to just...leave them
the force at which the pipe pulls us in/ejects us reminds me of that
compact olive
The death “drowning zone” ? Bricky?
lethal stump
What do you mean ?
compact olive
What you’re referring to. Isn’t the nick name a “drowning zone” where the pressure is so powerful in a circular motion under the water that anyone stuck in it is pretty much dead?
lethal stump
thats a drowning machine !
compact olive
That’s what I mean. What Bricky said
lethal stump
They appear by low-level dams
They are not caused by piping
drowning machines are caused by different things than delta p, however they’re both similar and highly dangerous
compact olive
Is this wasteland dam too high to have a drowning machine ?
cold steppe
*dam
compact olive
(Autocorrect)
lethal stump
cold steppe
ooh, interesting
lethal stump
far too tall, unless the entire place was submerged
compact olive
What do you think Reika implied about how much was submerged ?
cold steppe
it couldn't have been submerged, imo since the entrance to Battlefield would have been flooded otherwise
it's not a very steep slope up
compact olive
In other words .... how high do you think waters got in both shipwreck and battlefield ?
Normally water covers (In human construction) the pipes, no?
lethal stump
most likely yes
we see a steep valley into graveyard, but a not-so-steep way out, which is what’s puzzling me
wispy canopy
I don't thi k battlefield was submerfed
cold steppe
yeah
wispy canopy
Yea bricky rite
glad forge
It could just been a wall
wispy canopy
Only graveyard and shipwreck
cold steppe
it may have been a wall
lethal stump
W A I T
I HAVE AN IDEA
glad forge
To seperate the flooded shipwreck and dry battlefield
wispy canopy
Graveyard submerged, shipwreck with some water level to it
hushed steeple
lethal stump
the structures we see in graveyard might be rotted dams
wispy canopy
They are
glad forge
WHAT STRUCTURES
lethal stump
which keep the water from going into battlefield
wispy canopy
It was completly submerged
cold steppe
which structures though
compact olive
Brilliant Bricky! Knew there was something wrong with why those structures looked weird
wispy canopy
Oh I got it
lethal stump
wispy canopy
What if the water drained out and people took water from prairie then crabs angry
wispy canopy
So we all can agree that graveyard was submerged
cold steppe
we have very few confirmed water creatures, if we have any at all
lethal stump
they might have been about the height of the big thing on the right, but decayed (as we can see, some bits of dam are sideways/broken)
cold steppe
most fly
wispy canopy
compact olive
Wait, Wren has a point...
Bricky, what’s death toll around dams ?
lethal stump
i don’t think the bones are of water creatures
wispy canopy
Maybe elder
lethal stump
3 creatures, two adults one child
we call them Whurtles cause they’re whales mixed with turtles
compact olive
Wait wren... || isn’t Sanc cutscenes showing us they can submerge? Or come from the water? ||
lethal stump
the bones don’t match the elder creature at all
compact olive
By the way my wife pointed this out to me yesterday....
glad forge
Yes they could live in water, sleeping, whatever else
cold steppe
yeah, the Sanctuary creatures may be an indication of more aquatic creatures
there's fish at the very least
wispy canopy
True
glad forge
And come out of water when they needed
wispy canopy
Like mantas
glad forge
Maybe they could even breath air
compact olive
Ready?
wispy canopy
For?
glad forge
And that killed them, because they were hiding from krills in water for too long
compact olive
wispy canopy
Oh yea
compact olive
My wife says this reminded her of Sanctuary
wispy canopy
Ofc
lethal stump
that looks like ponyo ngl
compact olive
Tomcepts show that life goes back to the crust of the sky planet and comes back out through underwater geysers
And in sanc cutscene
cold steppe
hmmm, that could definitely be a possiblility
compact olive
The animals are coming out of the water
cold steppe
though at the very least in current canon, the devs confirm that the creatures more or less come from light
glad forge
So the sanctuary is actually a rebirht place for light creatures?
cold steppe
there's a mention of that in the canon lore doc
compact olive
Yes wren but look at the picture closely
lethal stump
is there light under water then ?
compact olive
The second one shows that light energy is what’s under the water
cold steppe
are those recent tomcepts, or old ones?
lethal stump
we need a concept timeline of when things were made
compact olive
Additionally...
cold steppe
it could be a possibility that there's light in the water which gives life to the creatures
I guess the underwater geysers are spewing light?
compact olive
This concept art shows that there was intent to have jagged black bones be the remains of the whales (great elder creatures)
cold steppe
at the very least, I think the skeleton in forest is a whale
are there pictures of a comparison between the bones in Forest and the ones in Wasteland?
glad forge
The spirit that has the call is called something like whale whisperer so yeah
lethal stump
wren, do you mean whale as in...the actual animal, or just like the tuna king ?
cold steppe
the tuna king
lethal stump
aight
cold steppe
there's no whales as we know them in Sky
lethal stump
our resident biologist has confirmed it’s technically not a whale
🐳
lethal stump
however the bones in graveyard are whales
with turtle heads
which created the « whurtle »
lethal stump
two possibilities, credit to @/bluespirit#8811 !
lethal stump
most of my wasteland pics are of krill, this was one of the few that wasn’t
this shows most of the bones n stuff
ask Blue for better pics, as they took more of the bones
tender dune
Did i miss anything interesting?
compact olive
Not entirely helpful but the concept art matches the concept art of both types of bones. (Can’t get on game, at work right now)
Wb Teth
You missed alef=oneness with god / sky kid hugs child of light = oneness with Megabird theory
tender dune
There are some jagged vertebrae spines in graveyard too ill see if i have pics
compact olive
Can you get the bones at forest ?
If you can’t we’ll understand
The chat is theorizing that wasteland might have a dam and confirm Reika’s theory that water levels were higher in wasteland
tender dune
Shoot sry
Wifi
U want a pic of the baby whale at the temple right?
I can go grab a pic quickly
compact olive
Only if it’s not too much trouble
still holly
What is the small spider like creature which is seen in wasteland?
night sleet
That is a crab
night sleet
The ones that charge? Yeah it’s a crab
compact olive
Well crabs wall crawl in sanctuary so...
night sleet
Never thought of em as spider like creatures
still holly
Crab walks sideways, right?
tender dune
If u want my crab report u can find it waay up. I took many pics of them even when their body splits in half
Also
Incoming babeh pics
still holly
Body splits??
tender dune
still holly
Wow
tender dune
Why does it send it twice im-
Wow
@still holly lemme find the crab pic
My guess is the top part is a rock to attack/protect themselves and the bottom part is the real body
compact olive
They looks like South Park Canadians
tender dune
This is my guess
cold steppe
oh interesting
still holly
Crab doesn't walk straight?
cold steppe
like a hermit crab but bulkier and less efficient
tender dune
You'll always find my crab reports in here, i posted a lot of stuff
compact olive
A side-ways ram would be hilarious
tender dune
Crab walks in circles and sometimes ar infinity
compact olive
Like a hip bump
compact olive
I think it’s a spider crab hybrid. Like bird mantas
tender dune
dev hint about crabs: their walk cycle mimics something related to how they’re made
- credit lore doc
lethal stump
nnono, crédit lore doc
tender dune
I should lay down with the crabs again to record their movement
They just kinda
Chill then hide
compact olive
Amio!
hushed steeple
?
tender dune
Want me to take any other pics?
compact olive
I drop 7 friends off to the side and quietly swoop down to burn darkness at the beginning of wasteland and they never attack me unless... I make sound.... bats!
jade river
Everyone here: discusses about the lore and try to make a timeline
TGC: I love how they are making the lore that i had no idea it existed
lethal stump
there is a story tho, they have it planned
tender dune
Yeah i noticed i dont get attacked cuz im quieter than my friends 
still holly
I get attacked all the time
mortal viper
Yeah, same
tender dune
I almost never honk
hushed steeple
proven sigil
They're making it up as they go along
Of course, keeping in mind what's already canon
mortal viper
Excuse me, that is called creative process!
tender dune
@ me if u need pics
compact olive
I think they’re heavily inspired by Tomcepts as we have now seen several Tomcepts included in current updates and in game lore
still holly
So wasteland was a dam?
mortal viper
Maybe
tender dune
I shall nyoom to wasteland to see my viewpoint
compact olive
The ark, the pointers to sanctuary, the creatures coming out of geyser laden waters, quad wing mantas, so many old school concepts being inserted today
lethal stump
the forgotten ark and royal ark are very very different though
still holly
If it was a dam, dead creatures would be away from dam, right?
compact olive
The same way that the forest elder umbrella was different from the umbrella in the light seekers update
lethal stump
wdym ? you find dead creatures by dams all the time
compact olive
But they seem to be drawing heavy inspiration from the art
lethal stump
i do think they were killed after the dam dried, tho 
still holly
Sorry, I was thinking of dam breakage
compact olive
Do you think killed or died?
lethal stump
killed
mortal viper
sometimes even critter that aren’t aquatic, because dams flood big areas and we can’t get all animals out
Their skulls are cracked
lethal stump
sharp force trauma to left eye socket
mortal viper
My poor whurtles
wintry tiger
oof
still holly
What if a meteor or something fell and broke the dam, killing the creatures in that impact?
lethal stump
that wouldn’t cause sharp force trauma though
wintry tiger
Well aren't the Crabs covered in that weird black stuff?
mortal viper
what if the king bombed it with the eden diamond power
lethal stump
i believe they were killed using spears, like the ones we see in battlefield
that would cause the fracturing we see over the eyes
still holly
That makes sense
lethal stump
meaning they were likely killed on purpose...just...why ?
lethal stump
it looks like the bodies were just left there to rot and be scavenged
still holly
Water transport?
still holly
I meant warfare on water
mortal viper
If they were killed, I assume they were used in battle, be it for troop transport be it for mounted attacks
They could still use boats for that, but maybe
still holly
Perhaps enemies used the creatures
mortal viper
The creatures seems to be native to wasteland, considering that is the only place we find their bodies
still holly
Perhaps, that place was captured
mortal viper
Wdym?
sonic urchin
Oh like by a conquering army or something?
still holly
Yes
sonic urchin
That’s actually an interesting theory. Maybe not all the realms were cooperating well
vague adder
raises hand What are the Elder's names again?
sonic urchin
Ohhhhhh uhhhhh. I have no idea
lethal stump
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
sinful gull
Bricky saves the day
mortal viper
All hail bricky king propaganda
vague adder
Thank you!
wispy canopy
I like how when someone needs names, bricky
When someone need to know about a king, bricky
Bricky is the legit info keeper of this server as far as I know
lethal stump
i am secretly vault vault
lethal stump
short owl
Anyone else notice how Lamed seems to have gone through the most changes?
Valley the primary change was the twins supposed to introduce the priestess got a promition. Tsadi was always a beefcake. Aleph love muffin. Daleth some old dude. Teth a confidant Karen with no respect for you. Lamed... Kept changing shape, personality and size?
Also what if Lamed didn't give us the diamond to send to the sky, but instead it had a message for Aleph? And then we just... Didn't know what it was aside from the fact Teth sent one into the sky
mortal viper
Yeah, valley twins were actually supposed to be one priestess in the original concept
Tgc ended up splitting them in two bickering siblings
tender dune
K im back 
with a lotta graveyard pics
That's all. Sorry for the spam and sorry if some pics have been duplicated
In my pov i don't see any sign of a dam being there. Reason why is because the entrance to battlefield is low and the entrance to shipwreck is also low (the one near crab bbq)
The animals seem to all be the same species. Two skulls are small and two skulls are big (sry if i miscounted). There was one big skull with trauma on the left eye [the crack is visible] whether the animal died from that or not is unsure since the crack doesn't penetrate the skull
lethal stump
both skulls have trauma
tender dune
Sorry it was dark dunno if i missed stuff
lethal stump
only one that doesn’t is the « baby » skull
mortal viper
There are only three skulls, no?
only one that doesn’t is the « baby » skull
It is there, just buried
mortal viper
All three skulls craks
hushed steeple
The bones in the graveyard are enormous , i just noticed
mortal viper
Rl Whale bones
sinful gull
I didn’t even know those were skulls.....
mortal viper
Turtle skulls
tender dune
There was one small skull but it was too dark to be able to take a picture of it clearly
If someone has a map of the skulls it would be nice
mortal viper
Hum
hushed steeple
I have like 9 glow spells maybe i can map it
tender dune
I think these are the skulls
Arrow points to the big skull down
The amount of ribcages doesn't match the amount of skulls found
lethal stump
we were thinking it’s segmented
they probably just broke apart, and belonged to a rlly long creature
compact olive
Teth is an ostrich
Ohhhh my goodie goodness !! (O_O)
Crackpot theory cooking up let me serve y’all!
A little
mortal viper
we were thinking it’s segmented
they probably just broke apart, and belonged to a rlly long creature
@lethal stump or maybe skulls just got buried in sand or broke to pieces
lethal stump
that’s a possibility too
lethal stump
yes, that was mentioned earlier
tender dune
Teth is an ostrich
HAHAHAHAHA
mortal viper
the nose is also broken?
mortal viper
time to go back home aka wasteland
tender dune
I think they used the same bone format for all tbh..
I dont think its one long creature
hushed steeple
Which ones do you still need?
compact olive
The “prince” was sucked out of the king into the dark stone/giant power diamond and that’s where you go when you die at Eden, inside of the crystal. That’s why the yellow light that sucks you up into orbit looks exactly like the light at the top of the crystal. (Dark matter sucks up / absorbs light)
Rather... the child of light was absorbed into the giant Eden crystal... the child of light imprints you follow like bread crumbs to where he/she/they are sitting alone ....inside the crystal... then you hug and bam... back to orbit out of the crystal
tender dune
compact olive
Mic.....
Drop....
tender dune
Both big skulls noses (slightly cracked)
Lowkey i wanna count the vertebrae
And ribs
mortal viper
what for?
tender dune
Interest and to compare them to the big bones in vault
tender dune
Thing about bones is sometimes you cant take every small crack to be the cause of death. Pretty sure after the bones dried up after such a long (millenia?) they get a bit brittle and end up cracking in some easily cracked spots. The above orbit cracks seem to be more interesting than the nose [my viewpoint]
tender dune
Just a fun little similarity of both dorsal views of the skulls [irl sea turtle skull]
Yeah it could be after they fell
So basically postmortem crack
mortal viper
oh I love this
tender dune
compact olive
What’s a nare?
tender dune
Nare is nose
Dorsal is the sky view (like the game screenshot) ventral is the opposite
compact olive
Fish have noses... check.
lethal stump
that’s not a fish
compact olive
Whales are not fish... check
lethal stump
its a turtle
compact olive
Wurtle
tender dune
😂
lethal stump
compact olive
So like... the they give birff’ ta butterflies.... this lines up with concept art implications
tender dune
Fish are fish
compact olive
But there’s a nest of butterflies by mama wurtle bones
mortal viper
tender dune
lethal stump
but we see what might be a baby whurtle, implying they don’t come from butterflies
compact olive
Mama wurtle bones... I love the sound of that out loud
tender dune
To me the rocks at the butterflies thing look like transported rocks from sanctuary
mortal viper
improvised fireplace
tender dune
Sea turtle eggs are usually ping pong shaped and soft so i doubt they'd survive
mortal viper
they are buried, tho
tender dune
Then we'd either see hatched eggs or find dead hatchlings
compact olive
So sad
cedar radish
Maybe the eggs were eaten.
compact olive
Ancestors are boneless ?
tender dune
So to me they seem like normal rocks like the rock circle you'd find in forest sunny Side
tender dune
And turtles dig their eggs deep
They wouldn't lay them up above in the mountain like birds
😂
mortal viper
yes
compact olive
Mantas have bones, mama wurtle has bones, everything except birds and ancestors left bones behind.
tender dune
I think the ancestors left the gravestones (since ppl would actually bury them)
I dont think the game would be dark enough to show us ancestor remains (unfortunately)
lethal stump
unfourtunately
compact olive
There’s a spear and sword in the place where a skeleton should be I. Wasteland, and Bricky found the only “body” in Eden. But no ancestor bones period.
tender dune
hushed steeple
Has anyone noticed when a dark dragon attacks, it cast a light aura as it dives down, the same aura that light creatures make when they call.
compact olive
I think it signifies the “krill call”
Which... (if the devs are reading) I think should be in the next season
#wheresMyKrillCall
tender dune
hushed steeple
When you run out of light, are other players see your light marker when you deep call?
lethal stump
hushed steeple
i guess i have to ask there
compact olive
When you run out of light, are other players see your light marker when you deep call?
@hushed steeple yes
But cannot warp to them
Happens to my wife like all day in Eden
wild lintel
Crabs’ aggression/corruption = a result of pollution? This might explain the friendly crabs on an island in sos.
Though it doesn’t explain the ones inland that are still aggressive
compact olive
I thought it meant being angry because ancestors were stealing (because the water level gets lower in each mural)
sly kestrel
The only thing I got from the murals was that the land used to be rich with mantas and butterflies
compact olive
And crabs?
tender dune
Blue spirit,
I wanna update my skull findings to both orbital and nare fractures happened after they fell on the ground (unsure whether they died and fell or they fell then died).
also i suggest underaged kids and people who can't handle irl pics of fractures NOT TO GOOGLE IT for your protection
Ty thats all from my side
hushed steeple
Crabs dont need waters necessarily though, the ones in the caves of sanctuary islands are seen not near bodies of water
sly kestrel
Mantas have bones, mama wurtle has bones, everything except birds and ancestors left bones behind.
@compact olive mantas.....don’t have bones. The corpse at vault doesn’t match the manta. A manta doesn’t have a skull and ribs
hushed steeple
Water*
tender dune
@compact olive mantas.....don’t have bones. The corpse at vault doesn’t match the manta. A manta doesn’t have a skull and ribs
@sly kestrel it do ma friend
tender dune
Go google manta ray skeleton
compact olive
So what bones do you do the manta call on in Vault that summon a spirit manta to come out of those bones?
tender dune
Look at that
sly kestrel
They don’t have ribs pointing up
compact olive
So what is your theory as to why both the call and the spirit that come out of it are for a manta?
tender dune
Could be added from the game since they're not 100% based on irl creatures. Other than that im not sure
mortal viper
Mantas have bones, Teth. They do not look like the ones in vault but they have a skeleton made of cartilage
I have some pics i can send here if you guys want
tender dune
I know blue, i believe the skeleton we find belong to vault baby manta
tender dune
Maybe they have a different bone structure in game?
That's my theory too. You can take a bit of irl animals and then compare it to the game ones
compact olive
My question is has anyone asked a dev to confirm if those bones belong to another creature and why they decided to have a manta call and a manta spirit come out of the ones in vault ?
mortal viper
For comparison
compact olive
I will never sleep again, Blue
tender dune
My question is has anyone asked a dev to confirm if those bones belong to another creature and why they decided to have a manta call and a manta spirit come out of the ones in vault ?
Probs no one asked them sadly
Manta bones are so pretty
mortal viper
honestly I think they might have reused the turtle skull and the whale ribcage to make this “manta skeleton”
compact olive
Were you burying a sKid ?
mortal viper
The one buried is myself
hushed steeple
Oops
compact olive
😂
mortal viper
the tuna king skeleton also has whale vertebrae
compact olive
They don’t look like sKid bones that’s for sure
tender dune
Thing is the game devs seem to only love using ribcages and thoracic vertebrae
I need my other bones
compact olive
Lol
devs: “We need degrees in biology and archeology on top of gaming degrees?!”
tender dune
Gib. Me. Bones
hushed steeple
Is there a butterfly call in game?
tender dune
I think there is bricky xD
compact olive
Lol
mortal viper
Game develop is a degree!
tender dune
Just wanna clear up something someone said when i mentioned the butterflies turning pink
mortal viper
I have a friend doing it
compact olive
Blue is that friend using that degree to join the TGC to leak us juicy lore morsels?
mortal viper
No
compact olive
Drop that friend
Lol just kidding.
How do you strike out your comments like you guys do with the line going through it?
tender dune
Butterflies circle around us voluntarily to recharge us (white color) - they do it for a short time
But when we call them using the emote they seem to be forced to use their energy to recharge us or ex. use their energy/life to recharge the diamonds to open oreos door. (They turn pink) and they're forced to stay in our hand until we remove the emote
Then I wondered if thats why krills and crabs are red colored (no light in them = hence dark creatures)
Thats what i meant to clear up
phew im done
compact olive
Has anyone mapped the Child of light imprints in one easy to view document ?
I noticed the majority of the child of light (winged light kids) are looking up. It might be times in its life where it was looking up at mega bird?
hushed steeple
Teth, if krills are devoid of light, how can they produce a deep call similar to light creatures? What is your interpretation on this?
compact olive
I’m excited to lore hunt for star children (child of light) breadcrumbs to see if the final child ||possible king/prince child of light|| is in fact in the crystal at Eden.
If anyone has proof/evidence that support this please dm me
tender dune
Good luck oz
Lamb i dont mean the calls they make. I meant the red eye color they do
compact olive
Lambdaw, I recall that even when we lose light in Eden or otherwise we can still pressdown and call... I could be mistaken
tender dune
Yeah we can always call even if we have no light
compact olive
#wheresMyKrillCall
lethal stump
I’m excited to lore hunt for star children (child of light) breadcrumbs to see if the final child ||king merge|| is in fact in the crystal at Eden.
remove the spoilered mention, sounds like a reference to the game files
compact olive
So we can’t say king merge because it’s sounds like the game file? If our theory is that that last child IS in fact the king’s inner soul/star child.... what do we call it so we don’t risk offending with ill gained game pirating info ?
compact olive
Im afraid others might not agree or understand since they haven’t been introduced to that theory or line of thinking.
You merge with the last star child and I personally feel it’s the king’s/prince. Maybe using another word for merge?
Like.... (searching thesaurus)
Meld?
Prince meld ?
lethal stump
become whole
tender dune
What do u mean by "final child king merge". Is that the body brick found or is it something else??
compact olive
What do you call it?
tender dune
Just so i can help rename it
compact olive
Lol looking for short term less typing kind of thing.
lethal stump
become whole
tender dune
Ahhhh
compact olive
Become whole. Become one. Oneness. Alef.
tender dune
Don't we already call them the dark child and light child?
compact olive
We do.?!
compact olive
I miss too much.
compact olive
Can I call it prince hugger ?
tender dune
Sure?
tender dune
They'll probs reask whats that anyways so there's no point in finding a good name xD
compact olive
That’s what I’m trying to avoid... confusing
tender dune
I like to also call them the indifferent and connected part of us becoming whole again (my theory)
compact olive
I was originally calling it “last child” with my friends but they kept thinking I was referring to the one that waved at us that looks like a child of light but actually has a cape. And was a stone kid in Eden
tender dune
I also understand who u mean when someone says the last child
compact olive
LCoL
tender dune
There will always be confusion tbh, lore chat has too many things going on at once xD
compact olive
Would it mean that moth hair is the prince’s hair?
tender dune
compact olive
Well... the prince/last star child of light, shares our body...they’re a cosmetic-less version of the canonical sKid...
And the concept art shows the prince wearing what looks like a mask
tender dune
Yeah
compact olive
So when mask is pulled off....
tender dune
Are there any more pictures of the prince or just the 2 pics??
lethal stump
not to my recollection
compact olive
⬅️
tender dune
lethal stump
here’s a better pic
lethal stump
orange cape is skid
compact olive
Wearing a star shaped mask too?
compact olive
(O_O)
My personal head canon is he had a change of clothes.
Black cape like in the picture, grey sash and grey overall
Does anyone have a higher res pic of this?
There’s 7 people so he’s in that picture
lethal stump
there’s another pic of him in that concept timeline
lethal stump
third pic of dark stone era, hes in the middle
compact olive
Yeah but that’s the black cape version, he already wears the star mask
I was hoping to get a look at him before the mask
lethal stump
there isn’t one
compact olive
Third one in fire era looks like he might be sans mask
lethal stump
s
sans
compact olive
But can’t tell ....sans (French for without)
sturdy moon
sans mask
compact olive
My good friend Elorri is from France. She is trying to teach us how to pronounce French, which I must say requires “skill”
Yeah. I think prince might be moff under mask
short owl
Yall are talking about the prince but can we talk about Lamed in those pictures?
hushed steeple
Who is Lamed?
compact olive
I mean that’s not a suuuuuper exciting look but it’s cool lore crafting idea
lethal stump
Vault elder, Lamb
hushed steeple
Thanks
short owl
compact olive
Place cape looks better on him than in game
short owl
Old lamed shoooooort
compact olive
It also looks better on sneaking spirit than on sKids
It’s brown in game.
That’s why I only wear my white cape.
hushed steeple
All the elders masks seem to be made of darkstone after the fire era and our masks are made of something else
short owl
Everyone else: design tweaks
Lamed: Complete transformation
normal berry
vault elder had a bonk staff
Everyone else: design tweaks
Lamed: Complete transformation
Prince: dies
lethal stump
use it to bonk the prince when he’s being a gremlin
compact olive
Used to be called shaman
lethal stump
no, forest was shaman
normal berry
wait lemme get sum old concept art
compact olive
Does the design match?
hushed steeple
Why does tom refer to the forest as forbidden forest
compact olive
6 looks like shaman
short owl
And yet even in that image, most elders are recognizable
normal berry
princy boi seems to be in the front
lethal stump
an interesting consistency throughout all of these is that the prince always looked like a skid
normal berry
prince became skid theory intensifies
compact olive
Is that prince on left?
lethal stump
perhaps
normal berry
think so
short owl
Daleth looks a bit off, and Lamed takes on yet another different form
normal berry
You know what ive never seen?
lethal stump
what ?
normal berry
Elder headcannon voices
short owl
King feels a bit too on the nose and... Is that a tail?
lethal stump
oh i have one, ri
normal berry
do tell
lethal stump
i can dm it to you
normal berry
sure
lethal stump
i think that’s a cape, Null
compact olive
My prince voice is Eddie Izard’s kid impersonation
hushed steeple
Could it mean the forest had been explored prior to the sky civilization, does the prince deliberately know that the forest is deemed forbidden?
normal berry
so i had this joke that princes voice is actually pretty deep for a small fellow
so my crack headcannon is his voice is Ian McCulloch... but from the 70's
lethal stump
ngl i imagine him as hiccup from HTTYD
cause in my headcanon thé prince is the equivalent of like, a 14 year old
normal berry
ye sounds legit
sinful gull
the prince is an angsty teenager
normal berry
actually ian McCulloch would better fit EDA's fan elder
but that is a whole other can of worms
short owl
WHO PUT A 14 YEAR OLD IN CHARGE
lethal stump
anyways
lore
normal berry
yes lore
lethal stump
any more thoughts on eden mystery body, or are we pretty set that it’s the prince/king ?
normal berry
Yeah think so
compact olive
Tsadi sounds like krill
Or is it just me?
hushed steeple
I have a theory on masks, also where do you hear the voices?
lethal stump
the voices are just headcanons
short owl
Yeah. Get back on this side of the forth wall, Brick.
lethal stump
aside from Ayin, none of the elders have voice lines
compact olive
No I’m serious
hushed steeple
Ohh
normal berry
Ayin hhas voice lines??
compact olive
The sound tsadi make = krill growl
lethal stump
when he wakes up and sees the light, we hear his voice
normal berry
ooh
short owl
Tsadi makes grunts I believe
lethal stump
two voices confirmed
now we just need to learn their voice actors
short owl
We have voices as well
lethal stump
yes we scream
compact olive
Because life as a sKid is nothing but pain
lethal stump
The Skykid flies through the sky
is he made of sky
or is sky made of him
he screams, for he does not know
compact olive
That’s actually reeeeally deep and emotional but also hilarious
short owl
Uh huh gingerbread man
safe osprey
who's ayin? :0
short owl
Prarie elder
lethal stump
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
normal berry
tbh is easier than to just call them "(INSERT REALM HERE) Elder"
tender dune
compact olive
~~Alef means “oneness with god” in Hebrew mysticism ergo the prince may or may not be an integral part of Megabird ~~
Longer to type Ri
Golden wasteland elder is killing my twitter limit
lyric isle
Is there any comprehensive reference of the spirit cutscenes, apart from the Imgur album?
compact olive
IKR ?!
compact olive
I’m thinking of starting up a new account on my daughters phone, then waiting for a valid reason to come along so When my wife punishes her I can use her phone and get snapshots and video of all of the ancestors in order and their murals
lyric isle
I need all of them
compact olive
Like even the ones that are in the Oreo section of the game?
lyric isle
Is it a bad thing the spirits are my favourite characters
tender dune
isnt murals the pics of the shrine when u pray at it?
supple agate
Corrupt king...?
I’m sorry, could I get some context for this? I’ve not heard of this part of the lore before
compact olive
Um... cave paintings
lethal stump
compact olive
Murals is just shorter to type and it also means pics on something other than paper
supple agate
Oh... interesting
compact olive
I wonder if the “corrupt king” title implies when he’s king he’s done nothing wrong... or does it imply like a Full turn to the dark side?
tender dune
looks like he turned to the dark side, if u notice his diamond head changed into sharp rock-like shape like the dark creatures
so he got corrupted like some of the creatures we saw (krills/crabs)
compact olive
And the question that lights my lore fires is...when did and how long was the kings transition last?
Cause I just eye pop at the thought of corrupt king slapping Daleth’s face offf
short owl
You know... If Aleph means Oneness with God, maybe that means Aleph was made to be (but never actually could be) the planet's Megabird. Changing his name to Resh may have been less about being king and more about claiming a seperate identity
compact olive
Null that coincides with the Lucifer theory which I wholeheartedly love
normal berry
~~an alter ego? ~~
compact olive
Emo King: I’m not a prince! I’m a King!!!
lethal stump
resh: ITS NOT A PHASE, MOM
compact olive
I actually really imagine king sounds like Kylo Ren in mask.
short owl
Resh: I'M NOT YOU OKAY?! I ACTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR MY PEOPLE!!
Megan: This isn't sustainable Aleph.
Resh: WELL WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?! PEOPLE DEPEND ON ME. ON THIS!
Megan: Living things die, Aleph. That's just how it is.
Resh: I DON'T! AND STOP CALLING ME THAT!
compact olive
Megan calls him “Ally”
tender dune
u think maybe the prince was the original thing the stars (elders) worshipped/connected with.
but then after they fell on 'earth' they were without a ruler and they wanted one. then they saw that the place they fell in has a huge mountain (megabirbs rebirth/ life concept place) and decided that they should try to go back to the prince or to the stars somehow.
the elders ended up making a replacement for the prince by creating the king and used up all this planet's resources greedily just to go back
((but they didnt listen to isle elder's warning?)) and so the king basically got corrupted and kaboomed the place?
lethal stump
creating the king
what do you mean by this ? like, crowned an ancestor ?
tender dune
no like literally making one
lethal stump
normal berry
tender dune
and the mountain is basically mount Olympus, except they dared to build oil pipes and disneyland there 😂
normal berry
BRINg OUT THE PRINCE IN EDEN tHEORY
compact olive
Oh my goodness could you imagine that’s what king’s plan was for Eden? A them park?
Elder creature rides
tender dune
i had another theory/story yesterday before i slept but some things dont match up with it so now im too confused to write it anymore 
compact olive
We should have a shared doc with each of our headcanons in our section
tender dune
👀
compact olive
I can add my theories there ?